hoi4-general

[sour nymph]

i need fuel i mean

[spring vale]

Uhh go limited exports

Or the one before that I forgot then name

[sour nymph]

im on limited exports

closed economy?

[spring vale]

Yeah yeah closed

[sour nymph]

alr

[spring vale]

Don't let anyone take any of ur precious oil

Stockpile it

[sour nymph]

haha alr

[dusky bison]

Lol I need steel production I have plenty of oil but I'm literally buying every bit of steel that the world sells and I still don't have enough and I can't go closed economy sadly

[spring vale]

Easy just kill a nation and demand resource rights

Less hassle regarding garissoning but you get all their shit

[dusky bison]

Well that's a little harder to do then normal in all reality it's a lot easier for me to keep buying territory then it is for me to go to war

The entire world is allied together The only non ally is Japan and Japan is currently beating the Allies

[spring vale]

Are you.... Playing east India company?

[dusky bison]

Ummmmmmmmmm definitely not

[spring vale]

Count your days.

[dusky bison]

I'm Just a friendly businessman doing good business running the Panama and Suez buying half the world and working on building a train network to connect everything.

You will be able to go around Eurasia in 80 days soon enough I just need two more provinces

[dusky bison]

Also it seems like such a random country to be the number one hater of lol why the East India company

[weary whale]

How does the multiplayer work, is it just a normal single player game but there is just other people playing and they can declare war and other stuff, the same as you

I wanna try multiplayer

[muted halo]

Same as you, but on different nations. Although you can also coop on the same nation

[weary whale]

Okay

[sour nymph]

i cant get more than 50k infantry equipment wth is goin on

[dusky bison]

Kinda DLC content is determined by who is hosting the game. And otherwise it plays just like normal just instead of actions depending on how the AI feels about the deal the player gets a prompt whether or not to accept or decline but everyone gets to do their own focus trees and play their nations the way that they would in a single player game

[weary whale]

Sure

[muted halo]

It can be super overwhelming, I'd join a beginner friendly MP game and play as a minor nation if I was you

[weary whale]

Sure

[mossy rain]

Btw how is the new dlc

[muted halo]

Amazing

[mossy rain]

Was there some problem with the coal mechanic or something

[muted halo]

There are issues, but it's good

[dusky bison]

I love the new DLC I've seen it get a lot of hate but I don't really get it I think it's fantastic

[muted halo]

A little buggy

[neon cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/tyranno-dance-japanese-tyranno-dance-gif-4769099523407077067

[mossy rain]

I see

[dusky bison]

It definitely seems like you can never have enough coal I know when I was playing as China that was one of my biggest struggles but otherwise it's fantastic I love the new faction mechanic I love the new doctorans I've heard some people complain about the Navy but I never understood the Navy anyways I love the new China and Japan focus tree.

[spring vale]

Gayass buying mechanic

[dusky bison]

It's fantastic it's bought me almost all of North Africa just about the entirety of China a pathway through Europe it's helped me completely alter wars. Of course I bought the entirety of India. It's such a fun and refreshing different way to play the game. The only thing I hate about it is the taxes the taxes are terrible but I'm working on fixing that The UK's days are numbered

I just need a build up enough nukes to be able to rain down nuclear rain upon the world I did that to Spain already launch 28 nukes all in one day and then I navel invaded them and they collapsed almost instantly

[mossy rain]

Nice

[eternal palm]

They mostly fixed that. Coal is now a nothing burger

So we went from coal not existing, to coal being a major issue, to coal not mattering in the slightest

Within 4 weeks.

Great game pdx

It's an addition nobody asked for and nobody likes

[dusky bison]

Well I don't know I still never have enough coal

[eternal palm]

I mean, china does struggle with it yea

[dusky bison]

I'm playing as India and I have not enough but I also control like a good portion of the world I control approximately 29% of the world

[eternal palm]

But for example, as germany before once I reached 500 factories I was in a 1k coal deficit, now Germany alone has enough coal for 1.6k factories

[eternal palm]

And does that include Germany or Russia?

Cuz like coal apparently only exists in major countries

[dusky bison]

I do own a good portion of Germany now and I'm working on Russia it's slow buying the world

[eternal palm]

So sleeping sim 😴

Great a game that only has an indepth war mechanic, makes a path in which war is actively discouraged

[dusky bison]

Well I was going to war to take capitals and countries that didn't want to sell me their land but then the entire world joined the Allies and I'm not prepared to fight the entire rest of the world

[sudden thistle]

Poor italy

[muted halo]

You know you can just not engage with that mechanic if you don't like it?

[eternal palm]

I'm just saying that path is really pointless

And I do ignore it

[dusky bison]

This game is more than just about the war it's about strategy it's about resource management it's about having options about exploring the different paths that the world could have gone

[muted halo]

Lol, let people role-play in peace

Ffs 😭😂

[eternal palm]

I just made a point, I'm not saying u can't play it

I'm just saying why I don't like it

[dusky bison]

I think it's fine I think it's great in fact I love this game and I love warmongering but to be able to play as a nation that can just slowly buy the world is so much fun

[eternal palm]

I never forbade anyone kek

[dusky bison]

It's a really nice change of pace from how the game normally plays

[eternal palm]

Well u see, there's other pdx games. Imagine u more indepth character relations and state craft

See ck3

Great game for larping

[muted halo]

You called it pointless, but it's not pointless if people have fun using it

[eternal palm]

I dont think hoi4 is really suited for that

[eternal palm]

Did I ever say my statement was objective?

From my perspective it is pointless

[muted halo]

Lmao

I give up

[eternal palm]

Is my perspective absolute? No.

[eternal palm]

Lol what are u even tryna do here

[dusky bison]

But those games don't have the same features or the same timeline I like being able to wage a massive war against those who don't let me buy them I like being able to play this mega corporation buying the world and nuking those who oppose me to oblivion

[eternal palm]

I said like 3 times now that I AS IN MYSELF don't like the east India path

[eternal palm]

I guess that's a power fantasy

Sure go for it

I like my medieval rp

Where I can take Japan as the mongols

[dusky bison]

Ok and that's you. But The way you worded your initial statement is that the game shouldn't even have the feature

[eternal palm]

💀

[sour nymph]

just got cooked by poland as germanyu

[eternal palm]

Holy jesus

[dusky bison]

How did that even happen

What transpired for this

[eternal palm]

Do u guys not know how to differentiate from opinion and factual statement

[sour nymph]

idk they won every single battle

[eternal palm]

I clearly have an opinion. Opinions are inherently not objective

[dusky bison]

That is majorly unfortunate

[sour nymph]

i just suck

[eternal palm]

Kek

[dusky bison]

It really does suck I guess enjoy speaking Portuguese looks like the world's not speaking German today

[sour nymph]

portuguese?

[eternal palm]

Portuguese?

[dusky bison]

You know what never mind enjoy speaking Polish I misread Poland as Portugal

[eternal palm]

[dusky bison]

😂

[sour nymph]

oh loll

im not dead yet but they pushed me all the way to dortmund

ggs

[dusky bison]

It makes a lot more sense that you lost to Poland and it would have if you lost a Portugal I was very concerned for a second. But also that's insane that Poland is doing a number on you

[sour nymph]

yeah this game is quite difficult

[dusky bison]

I guess it depends if you're playing historical or a historical I have seen Poland wholesome insane moves on non-historical

[sour nymph]

i have 594k casulties compared to their 622k

[dusky bison]

Look nothing beats the time I was playing as Germany and I had the scrapping the barrel conscription and I was still constantly out of troops

[sour nymph]

lol

[dusky bison]

My casualties were in the hundreds of millions and I went from very quickly from taking over the world to losing everything

[sour nymph]

welp at least you got close

i annexed austria and czechoslovakia and now im cooked

ggs poland just launched a massive offensive and encircled 27 infantry and tanks

[slim nexus]

I think its cool to see top 1 empires collapse whether hoi4 or other game

[sour nymph]

i just capitulated now im the german republic

ran by konrad adenauer

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova german civil war time?

[tepid nova]

Do what you want twin 🙏 just as long as you get better

[split fulcrum]

imma try to learn how to play this like how i learned eu4

not knowing what im doing

until i start knowing what im doing

[tepid nova]

Yea!

Trial and error

[split fulcrum]

went from "oh what, i accidentally formed spain into a republic!" into:

dude that save was so delicious

[tepid nova]

Idk what this means

[split fulcrum]

look at the numbers

i reached like 13 morlae

morale

that castellyr mission tree is cracked

gave me a perm 10% or 15% morale modifier

the tree itself is horrible

outdated

but that specific mission is cracked

plus corintian

corinian

idk

plus

castanor mission tree

and some other modifiers

[split fulcrum]

but that was at max tech

so base morale was 6

@tepid nova dude that battle was part of a war where i was outnumbered like 3 to 1

i forgot

maybe more

i warred the empire

[tepid nova]

I dont understand Eu4

Only hoi4

[split fulcrum]

and then stackwiped them to oblivion

[tepid nova]

my baby

[split fulcrum]

they got demolished

woah

[tepid nova]

Yes

[split fulcrum]

eu5 already released

youre late

[tepid nova]

Means hoi5 is next

[heavy vigil]

no nsfw please #server-rules

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova once nearly formed rome as venice

WITHOUT dlcs

trust me

eu4 without dlcs is horrible

[tepid nova]

Whatever you say twin ✌️ sorry
I didt mean it in an NSFW way

[split fulcrum]

you miss so many things

[tepid nova]

Just

buy the DLC

[split fulcrum]

no cash

[tepid nova]

Thats fine

you use card for steam

[heavy vigil]

i know dont worry :)

youre not in like trouble

[tepid nova]

YES

[split fulcrum]

i just noticed what gang deleted

[tepid nova]

lalalalaa

[split fulcrum]

no way thats a real city

stoke on trent

shouldve nuked that instead

[tepid nova]

Birmingham exists

thats about it for birmingham

[split fulcrum]

existed

[daring geyser]

yeah okay buddy so we're getting authoritarian now arent we

cant do anything in this economy

[icy crescent]

Please don't use Discord Light Theme.

[nimble torrent]

Luxsemburg 😭

[cosmic jay]

what is faction manifest fulfillment

[elder folio]

how does switzerland have 34 divs

[spring vale]

Is there a hoi4 mod for TES?

[nimble torrent]

I'm shocked myself.

[elder shuttle]

whats a good division for pushing

[elder folio]

i hope so

[paper echo]

on multiplayer 💀

[elder shuttle]

im playing italy historical hiw can i help germany invade the uk

[devout wave]

We have a chill hoi4 server with German only games looking for people dm for invite

[prisma saddle]

what are the most important stats to look when making a tank that need to melt the enemy?

[daring geyser]

as a lusophone, i approve of poland's portuguese heritage

[solemn bay]

Luxumbourg big chillin'

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova im so bad at macroing dude

also am i winning or losing

i lost the south

and part of the north

but if you look veery closely

i own berlin

[opal nymph]

Okay? Napoleon took Moscow

[split fulcrum]

but did he do this?

[opal nymph]

L moment. Has chance to turn things around, oofs himself anyways

Actually, this is clearly a ploy from Himmler to take power

[split fulcrum]

loool

no way

[icy crescent]

Nice. I guess.

[viscid swift]

guys what do the colors mean with rails and supplies

like here

bro loves not having any idea about what the hell is a kilometer

[solemn bay]

The brighter/greener the colors, the more supply. The darker the colors, little to no supply at all

[eternal palm]

Red probably means bad

Red means u have low supply

The bluer and brighter, the more supply the region has

[bright arrow]

I think you might be colour blind

[solemn bay]

Oh

[eternal palm]

Oh yea they're not green 💀

Its supposed to be blue/very light green

[viscid swift]

the realization 😭

[junior imp]

Lmao

[viscid swift]

mate i think u should check that if thats green to u

sweden gameplay be like

[junior imp]

I think he loves fehlinger

[nocturne cedar]

AMD Ryzen 5 5500

apologies for late response

[sudden grotto]

5500?

[lilac glen]

Omfg, how do I delete movement orders?

[viscid swift]

guys do yall like to play train simulator in HOI4?

[nocturne cedar]

yup

[viscid swift]

also is hoi4 more cpu or gpu intensive

[honest night]

What do you mean by this like frontline?

[paper echo]

cpu

[sudden grotto]

tyou could just select the move comand on the tile and let them stay

[nocturne cedar]

click on the tile ur unite is seated

[sudden grotto]

cpu

[viscid swift]

hmm

[lilac glen]

What if its an entire army on a frontline?

[viscid swift]

is a 7 5700x and 1660 super a good pair or holy bottleneck

[lilac glen]

I accidentally clicked inside the enemy territory

[nocturne cedar]

select them all and click the stop button

dummy

[honest night]

H works as a hotkey

[sudden grotto]

in my opinion, by the cpu being a mid- high end cpu it is a bit? but i dont 100%

[lilac glen]

Where

[honest night]

Press H

[viscid swift]

yeahhh i think i need to upgrade my gpu i have no clue how that piece of 6 year old machinery is still standing after what it've been through

[nocturne cedar]

nwxt to the select half button

[lilac glen]

God bless the H key

🙏

[sudden grotto]

what is your desireable gpu to combo wiht yo cpu

[nocturne cedar]

btw, is my CPU GOOD FOR hoi4?

[junior imp]

Prob

[nocturne cedar]

its the AMD Ryzen 5 5500

[sudden grotto]

Ig so

[nocturne cedar]

paired with the 3060 rtx

[junior imp]

I get 30 fps in 1936 for some reason with I5 10200H GTX 1650 TI

[split fulcrum]

how does one finish off an encirclment?

[sudden grotto]

Still good enough tbh for hoi4

[split fulcrum]

i did the encirclement part

do i wait until they get low supply?

[junior imp]

Attack the low orgs

Then slowly encircle 1 by 1

[split fulcrum]

aight

[sudden grotto]

Are u using the gpu or CPU for the graphics, because It appears that the CPU comes with integrated graphics

[junior imp]

Idk how do we check that?

[real coral]

is your hdmi cable plugged into your motherboard or gpu

[sudden grotto]

Is the monitor attached tò the motherboard or gpu

[junior imp]

I have 0 idea what any of those mean ngl I use a laptop.

[sudden grotto]

Oh

[junior imp]

I could play HOI4 good enough without much fps drops till 41 or 42 but idk whatever happened now it kinda sucks

[spiral sphinx]

what did heinrich do

[junior imp]

He burned the house down

Don't let him cook

[kind vale]

So that's what those do

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova finally

i get it

[tepid nova]

what do you get

[split fulcrum]

I HAVE UNDERSTOOD IT

[warm otter]

Heinrich declared war on the Soviets and the allies, again.

I would like to thank the Brits for not being a pain in the arse

[bright arrow]

What year is it?

[tepid nova]

Finally

Keep going

[north spoke]

Here's a tip. Cut off Bavaria and take it, then go for Berlin.

[frank estuary]

Will I white peace with the Axis if I accept this? I could probably win the war in South America, but that's effort.

[north spoke]

You have to make peace with either the leader or all majors. Idk if they changed it to just the leader or not

[bright arrow]

Youll peace out with Peru but not with the axis

[frank estuary]

No point then.

[bright arrow]

They'll just call peru back eventually

[split fulcrum]

does this count as an encirclement?

[split fulcrum]

1936

[sudden grotto]

No

[tepid nova]

technically one troops are cut off from their capital, either via ship, railway or land they are encircled

because then they are unable to get supplies

[sudden grotto]

You Need tò fully lock them

[viscid swift]

if u lock em then yea

[bright arrow]

Encirclement is when all troops are in a single tile fully surrounded by you. This is just cutting off their supply

[viscid swift]

btw i typically just cut them off in the middle and then destroy the south and north

[split fulcrum]

it encircles them

basically

[honest night]

Doesn’t have to be a single tile you can get large encirclements

[bright arrow]

But they dont take the encirclement penalty i believe

[honest night]

Ahh if your talking about that then yeah ig

but doesn’t really matter to much tbh

If you “cut them of” the units are dead either way

[viscid swift]

if they wont put reinforcements in there then yeah

[grizzled yarrow]

i learned something new

[viscid swift]

huh???

[cosmic jay]

after 3 years of fighting the Japanese, Chinese and for some reason, Vietnam i have defeated them and liberated china

[grizzled yarrow]

took out france in 1937

[viscid swift]

how

[grizzled yarrow]

ok so basically

justify on its ally

build a couple of divisions

make a fallback line

[cosmic jay]

do danzig earlier

[grizzled yarrow]

declare war let em push then counterattack cap belgium and storm through france

belgium guarantees france so it makes ur life easier than getting across the maginot

[slim nexus]

Little Luxembourg

[grizzled yarrow]

What is that portrait...

[spiral sphinx]

Heinrich with his little mustache trying to be adolf

[paper echo]

BRO THEY ARE A PUPPET AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FACTION 💀

[junior imp]

It happens gng

Its HOI4

[viscid swift]

guys can sweden ever get attacked by AI reich

[grizzled yarrow]

ONLY in hoi4.

[junior imp]

Your name describes all of us lmao

[grizzled yarrow]

I dont think so

[junior imp]

If unhistorical

prob

everything happens

[silk furnace]

wait u guys play hoi?

[grizzled yarrow]

No

[junior imp]

no

[silk furnace]

damn

i was hoping for a yes

ggs

[junior imp]

we play hearts

[silk furnace]

makes sense

[junior imp]

💔

[grizzled yarrow]

We play kidneys of stone 3.9

[sudden thistle]

What’s that

[junior imp]

🔥

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[sudden thistle]

This is the city skylines 3 server

[silk furnace]

ohh okay

[grizzled yarrow]

Hungarian patriot vs me

Im romanian patriot but i dont have it in my name

[junior imp]

I'm turkish patriot

neither do I

[grizzled yarrow]

Form ottoman empire

[silk furnace]

why be against eachother

[lilac glen]

Why is spearhead grey?

[junior imp]

I tried I lost to greece lmao

I forget

[silk furnace]

oof

[junior imp]

I have tiny industry

I can't play Turkey

[grizzled yarrow]

Tru

[junior imp]

I can play greece though

I formed byzantine

once

[grizzled yarrow]

How can u play greece but not turkey

[junior imp]

No ideas brocacho

[silk furnace]

im a sfu gamer o i dont play with any of those lol

[junior imp]

Its hard to penetrate turkey

[grizzled yarrow]

I cant play any nation so im equally bad with every nation

[junior imp]

I love minor countries

[silk furnace]

i can play ussr

[junior imp]

I ❤️Poland

[grizzled yarrow]

I can beat the germans easily but past that i cant rlly do nun

[junior imp]

I keep invading USSR when they are in civil war and weaken them lmao

then conquer them fully

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk how navy works so war against the allies is impossible

[silk furnace]

js spam light cruisers

[junior imp]

I once almost formed Roma

[grizzled yarrow]

Thats all?

[junior imp]

but the save is now in backrooms

[silk furnace]

for sfu thats kinda the whole point

[silk furnace]

ye

atleast it was the meta for before the new dlc

[junior imp]

I need navy suggestions people

[silk furnace]

idk about now

[junior imp]

I suck at navy

[grizzled yarrow]

What about the new dlc

Gulp

[junior imp]

My brain is the size of an atom

[silk furnace]

it should still work prob

[junior imp]

me know not how navy

[grizzled yarrow]

I hear you bro i hear you...

[silk furnace]

or js make the highest naval supremacy ships

[grizzled yarrow]

Or what if you spam a heck ton of ships

[silk furnace]

idk

i dont have dlc

[junior imp]

I learned about supply in my 300th hour

I regret not studying map game

[honest night]

Just spam light crusers with max light attack

[grizzled yarrow]

Ok so heck ton of cruiser get some destroyers and battleships and im gud 2 go

[honest night]

and make sure you have destroyers for screening

[silk furnace]

i played with old supply for my first couple hundred hours

that was like 7 years ago

still remember nsb coming out

[junior imp]

I swear the AI ruined my germany save

for some reason it decided to leave

odessa

and go to leningrad

and got a whole army encircled

[grizzled yarrow]

Now the thing is i can also cheese the uk war since france cant join the allies anymore

[silk furnace]

i always js make a fallback line and hold w 5 divs

[junior imp]

brb

[silk furnace]

i once got rolled in a mp game as infantry hungary because of it

[grizzled yarrow]

Hungary is a cool nation to play especially the habsburg path but early game sucks since yo industry is tiny

[silk furnace]

ye i dont play that

[grizzled yarrow]

Huh

[silk furnace]

i only play sfu tfb and stuff like that

[grizzled yarrow]

What are those sob

[silk furnace]

major hmp player

trying to learn stuff

[grizzled yarrow]

Whats sfu and tfb

[silk furnace]

savesta friends united and their finest bruh

most used historical multiplayer mods

[grizzled yarrow]

Lowk never played with mods

Well except one time trying rt56

[sudden thistle]

Hungary is a fun mp nation

[silk furnace]

ye

[sudden thistle]

Like 20-30% recruitable pop

[silk furnace]

i main russia tho

pretty fun

if i dont mess up my build that is

[sudden thistle]

I don’t wanna do majors in mp

I forget too many things to do it

[silk furnace]

yep

sometimes there arent enough players tho

thats the reason i started playing russia

and i fell in love

[sudden thistle]

Russia is def a fun nation

[grizzled yarrow]

Yup

[sudden thistle]

U ever do sheep’s mod

It’s fun

[silk furnace]

i have not tried that

[grizzled yarrow]

Btw

[sudden thistle]

Not updated rn though

[grizzled yarrow]

Do yall use space marines as minor nations

[silk furnace]

what i like the most about mp games is the comms and the micro with real players

[silk furnace]

i dont play sp

only for test builds

[grizzled yarrow]

I only play sp cuz i got skill issue

[silk furnace]

damn

we all do

[grizzled yarrow]

I lowk use a 28w inf template i made where its just like 11 inf and line arti and some support stuff as major nations and as minor i use 16w divisions

[silk furnace]

do 18 width as major and put more into 36 width tanks

and air

or maybe 16 width is better

but make more tanks instead of more inf

line arty still sucks no?

[grizzled yarrow]

I dont rlly know how to properly use tanks

[grizzled yarrow]

Uhhhh

[silk furnace]

i believe it does

[grizzled yarrow]

Can be good with superior firepower since it got buffed

[silk furnace]

maybe

idk tbh

[grizzled yarrow]

And the new doctrines make line arti more usefull

[silk furnace]

use them as your main breakthrough and encirclement divs

[heavy vigil]

its not good

no hp no break

[silk furnace]

okay i was correct

[heavy vigil]

but its like borderline usable ish

[silk furnace]

good to hear

[grizzled yarrow]

It does give like +3 org :D

[heavy vigil]

sfp is really good for org recovery

[heavy vigil]

ok so you stay longer in battle and because of low hp take more casulties

[silk furnace]

yep

[heavy vigil]

battle stats get updated every 10% strenght you lose

[grizzled yarrow]

The thing about tanks is

[heavy vigil]

make air

[grizzled yarrow]

I never took the time to act properly use tanks

[craggy trail]

[heavy vigil]

they buffed air because of coordination

[heavy vigil]

you can learn if you want

[silk furnace]

ye then js do more air

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah

[silk furnace]

is the new dlc any good?

[grizzled yarrow]

I can make decent tank designs

I just dont know how to use em to theyr max potential

[heavy vigil]

i like it as someone interested in asia

[silk furnace]

whats the meta ussr med tank if u know? sfu

[sudden thistle]

This is all u need

Dw

[grizzled yarrow]

I only hate 1 thing about this update

Coal.

[grizzled yarrow]

What am i looking at

[silk furnace]

what doctrine gives THAT 10 org?

[craggy trail]

I like the new subdoctrines. Coal still sort of needs a rework for minors. And then there's also the new naval dominance mechanic and faction system

[heavy vigil]

not design but stack modifiers

[craggy trail]

The new naval dominance system can be intepreted as "air superiority" of the navy

[grizzled yarrow]

The new faction missions are pretty weird icl

[sudden thistle]

A tank

[heavy vigil]

@grave phoenix ussr tank design or uhh dead (kidding)

[viscid swift]

guys i heard that light tanks arent good is it true

[silk furnace]

thats some nice stats

[sudden thistle]

Forget

[grizzled yarrow]

What template do u use

And is it viable for germany

[silk furnace]

thats sfu

[craggy trail]

You get really good mastery boosts if you have the same subdoctrine with other faction members

[viscid swift]

first of all, what is this resolution, second
WHY IS THE ATTACK AND DEFENSE SO MUCH WHAT THE F-

[heavy vigil]

no because it relies on dozer blades and sitting still

but germany can get better tanks

[grizzled yarrow]

Ooooo

[craggy trail]

And if you have an illusive gentleman, you can use your spare initiative point to appoint them for free

[grizzled yarrow]

The template i use is stupid expensive and not that efficient

[silk furnace]

and whats the template?

[heavy vigil]

the stats are higher post dlc but this was before

[craggy trail]

So you can get 2-4 free operative slots by spending your initiative points on them if you do have illusive gentlemens

[grizzled yarrow]

U use heavy tanks?

[silk furnace]

its meta trust

[grizzled yarrow]

Isnt medium meta?

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[silk furnace]

wait is this not sfu?

[sudden thistle]

They are best

[sudden thistle]

For single player

[grizzled yarrow]

[snow rain]

the recovery rate is insane

[grizzled yarrow]

Well i never play mp

Except when i play w a friend or 3

[snow rain]

in singleplayer only
in multiplayer it's pretty much heavy TD or nothing (except for soft atk tanks)

[sudden thistle]

Bro my salad has no tomatoes

[heavy vigil]

vanilla

[silk furnace]

o dam

[grizzled yarrow]

Dang that sucks i do appreciate the tomato donation tho

Thx for the land lease

[silk furnace]

such fun

[heavy vigil]

singleplayer

[silk furnace]

peak bulgaria

[sudden grotto]

Gawd dayum 💔 Is this the faction rework

[grizzled yarrow]

Thats just a mecanized template-

[silk furnace]

bulgaria

[heavy vigil]

oh thats not the tank

i sometimes cant see on my phone, apologies

[grizzled yarrow]

e

All good

I understand the struggle.

[craggy trail]

Yes only with NCNS

[sudden grotto]

Oki doki

[grave phoenix]

same design as ger

[sudden grotto]

Ngl looks fire

[heavy vigil]

ah its this

[grave phoenix]

template is just different

[heavy vigil]

idk the ger design >:(

[craggy trail]

What's the motorcycle MP for?

[sudden grotto]

Its like the ger design

[heavy vigil]

org mech

lot of org and recov

[grizzled yarrow]

I once tried self propelled arti but its just did poorly any idea why?

[craggy trail]

Ah

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[heavy vigil]

didnt stack enough battle modifiers, untrained, not equipped, bad general (like manstein for example sucks)

[grave phoenix]

hv3 or hc3, 3small cannons, radio3, tracks that give break or speed, best speed engine and max armor/engine clicks

[sudden grotto]

Did you check org and stats

[grizzled yarrow]

It had like 38-40 org if i remember

Prob bad supply?

[junior imp]

Wsg

[heavy vigil]

org is like such a bad stat to look at for offensive divs

[sudden grotto]

In this hoi4 no supplies means death so

[heavy vigil]

just hp kinda matters

[sudden grotto]

Sksheiejnfjfkfkdn, tho i dont want my div tò die After 3 seconds of Attack lol

[silk furnace]

only air attack matters trust

[grizzled yarrow]

Im an idiot so i never care about supply

[heavy vigil]

force attack

org doesnt make them die

just stop attacking/retreat

hp is the stat youre looking for

[sudden grotto]

Hans be firing those sturmtigers when the enemy Is 5 meters from him

[grizzled yarrow]

Hans.

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/hans-flammenwerfer-get-ze-gif-15834368

[grave phoenix]

logi template u should swap logo for something here and maybe change one tank for one more mech and ur good to go

[grizzled yarrow]

The last footage of my communist germany game before i got naval invaded and mauled by the allies

[grave phoenix]

soviet template instead is 3 motorised line aa

[sudden grotto]

The most important thing Is for the div tò have minimum 1000 soft Attack fr fr

[grave phoenix]

or 2 spaa could also work? but didnt test

[heavy vigil]

yeah itd good for armor meme

[grave phoenix]

yeah but expensive

and sov issue rn is ic

[heavy vigil]

not rlly useful otherwise

[heavy vigil]

LTD

issue solved

[grave phoenix]

LTD wont do anything if ur heavy tds are already getting clicked on every tile this dlc, stat wise

[sudden grotto]

Did they Add a navali invasion pop up or sum? Whats that icona near the "missing equipment in production" and the One recruitinc scientista

[heavy vigil]

human wave but tank

[grizzled yarrow]

I honestly dont know

[heavy vigil]

tank mob will be new meta fr

[grave phoenix]

human wave but without the human, the wave, the stats and everything else

[grizzled yarrow]

But bro i had a deficit of coal as germany

[heavy vigil]

now you get it

[sudden grotto]

Perfection

[grave phoenix]

3 motorized line aa is very good tho for actual mp for sov template

[violet veldt]

Your industdy💔

[heavy vigil]

just play like those russian servers with mega civboost ussr

[grave phoenix]

holds out the longest

[heavy vigil]

yeah ik

im messing with you :3

[craggy trail]

-300 coal

[blissful sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260249598639734955/1447630380806181125/attachment.gif

[heavy vigil]

ussr is kinda slow at everything

[grave phoenix]

im just saying so u don’t have to ping me again if someone asks for sov mp advice

[grizzled yarrow]

Lets just say my troops never had to worry about reinforcements

[heavy vigil]

thank you sir

[grave phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026435545339006979/1365053967326904340/peace.gif

[grizzled yarrow]

Hopefully il finally have a successful germany run

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-gif-13718534390039256298

[silk furnace]

js get a better gaming chair

trust

[sudden grotto]

German garrison in norway irl:

[grizzled yarrow]

No joke my gaming chair is a wooden chair prob older than me

[silk furnace]

thats why u have skill issue

[blissful sun]

italy trying to make every nation fascist

[split fulcrum]

does germany have viking units???

i saw one named wiking

[grizzled yarrow]

Skill vs spam ahh

[silk furnace]

switch to a plastic chair trust

[sudden grotto]

Just an SS

[junior imp]

SS Norwegian

Units

[heavy vigil]

its a unit you shouldnt talk about here but i recommend you look it up

[sudden grotto]

Pov you choose the Italy First path

[grizzled yarrow]

Wooden chair users have skill trust

[silk furnace]

ye

[split fulcrum]

whats its name though

[heavy vigil]

at least, talk about in certain context

[split fulcrum]

i only remember the wiking part

[heavy vigil]

yeah the SS wiking

[sudden grotto]

Search Just german ww2 divison wiking

[blissful sun]

🔥

[split fulcrum]

ooo i can continue on other nations experiments

[lilac glen]

Economy of conquest is nuking my economy

What do I do

[silk furnace]

do left side

trust

[sudden grotto]

Usa After discovering unit 731

[split fulcrum]

no

right side

[sudden grotto]

Kill everyone

[viscid swift]

uhm

guys

is this supposed to happen

on historical

[split fulcrum]

i dunno

but it happened to me too

[silk furnace]

it happens sometimes

[viscid swift]

poor switzerland

[split fulcrum]

oof

they lit up stettin

[lilac glen]

I only have 140 days of fuel

[split fulcrum]

is it green

or red

[lilac glen]

Red

[sudden grotto]

Build refineries, kill Romania

[devout trench]

Kill Romania is a key step btw

[sudden thistle]

If u don’t have dlc

It happens

BBA fixes it I think

[viscid swift]

ohh so i need every DLC to have historical? W

[devout trench]

Historical?

In hoi?

[lilac glen]

Can't build refineries, no civs

But sure

Romania is next

[devout trench]

How do we not have civs 💔

Is our economic tree a afterthought

[delicate surge]

Who can intive to the family?

[silk furnace]

what.

[lilac glen]

Economy of conquest

💔

[silk furnace]

why even build civs

what even are civs?

[lilac glen]

Greed

https://tenor.com/view/his-greed-is-sickening-his-greed-sickens-me-bunny-greedy-hungry-gif-11512769397733712053

[sudden thistle]

Shitty paradox DLCs

Yeah

[silk furnace]

js do the magical thing

leave wthout paying

[viscid swift]

if it was at least affordable 😭🙏

[silk furnace]

thats why i have all dlcs

[sudden grotto]

Flex

[silk furnace]

tru

i can play sfu by myself

[sudden grotto]

Ta fack Is sfu

[lament herald]

how do i get the Demand French north africa in the nationalist spain?

[silk furnace]

hmp mod

[sudden grotto]

Ohh

[worn coral]

what is this bru

[sudden grotto]

There are the requirements in the focus

[sudden grotto]

Democracy at his peek

[worn coral]

i mean

the world itself is not normal

take

a look

[lament herald]

ik but i kinda dont understand it

[viscid swift]

around

[viscid swift]

its limp bizki-

[sudden grotto]

Beautiful

[sudden grotto]

So

It needs tò be Vichy france

And they Need tò own those states for you tò start the focus

[split fulcrum]

should i demobilize?

[viscid swift]

W

[split fulcrum]

does german empire conquer like german reich

[lament herald]

its vicky france already

[viscid swift]

are u the kaiser or weimar?

[sudden grotto]

Hmm

[viscid swift]

or budnesrepublik idk which is it tbf

[split fulcrum]

kaiser

i did the civil war

[viscid swift]

u should have enough war support i think

[sudden grotto]

Do they own all the lands in the focus?

[split fulcrum]

20%

german military junta

[lament herald]

nvm found it italy got 1 of the lands

[viscid swift]

i think it should be more

[lament herald]

thanks for the help though

[sudden grotto]

Oh lol

[viscid swift]

restore the kaisereich

[sudden grotto]

No prob

[split fulcrum]

stability is 23%

[split fulcrum]

yes

i need to finish the focus im on first

[humble fern]

I need to ask

How does any Spain get a core on Spanish Africa?

After the Civil War ends?

When it shouldn't be the case

I have all of Spain as the Phillipines, but NO god Dam Republican Spain, which didn't even win the Civil War (The Nationalists did), gets a Core on All of Spanish Morocco

So no "The Juannines" achievement

[patent thistle]

what have i done to turkey- (commands)

[humble fern]

This happened twice to me

[junior imp]

https://tenor.com/view/thin-ice-jojo-diavolo-king-gif-189555070225993471

[humble fern]

Like how do you f up an achievement with such a game-breaking bug like that?

Why can't it just be a list of states to control

[lilac glen]

How do I invade Romania? I need oil

[junior imp]

Do it through yugoslavia

or bulgaria

Those are fields

Mountains are

[zealous wind]

grand assault or rapid domination for germany?

[junior imp]

too much of a pain

[zealous wind]

on the land doctrine operations

[junior imp]

And PLEASE build supply if you plan to invade through that small gap

[split fulcrum]

what should i fix

also

[silk furnace]

dont

[split fulcrum]

im still early game

so i dont have much tech

[silk furnace]

remove line arty and i wouldnt do light tank

[split fulcrum]

dec 1936

[silk furnace]

js rush meds

[split fulcrum]

i can switch em with mediums

when i research that

[split fulcrum]

switch it with what?

also i kiinda need that attack

[silk furnace]

more tanks and mech

also dont do mot

less hp

less def

[split fulcrum]

no tech

[silk furnace]

tech rush then

early game u make all the guns n stuff u need

[junior imp]

Do tech focuses

[silk furnace]

then the tanks and planes

[lilac glen]

How? I am new 😔

[junior imp]

Just invade through Yugoslavia if you don't want to mess with supply

[zealous wind]

which oneee the new dlc confuses me so much

[junior imp]

Romania is hardly invadable through that gap

And you have no supply too

[lilac glen]

No, no, I wanna know

[silk furnace]

js get hungary

[junior imp]

I'd say watch a quick video as I'm not the best explainer

[silk furnace]

same tbh

[split fulcrum]

railroads

[silk furnace]

i can only explain non-basic stuff

like sfu

[junior imp]

It shouldn't take much

[split fulcrum]

build a buncha railroads

[junior imp]

Same

[split fulcrum]

and supply hubs

construction menu

on the right

[junior imp]

Supply hubs take too much time ngl

[split fulcrum]

build like one supply hub on the border

[junior imp]

200 days or sum for only 1

build 2 or 1 at max in a small important place

[silk furnace]

better late then never

[split fulcrum]

hmm

theres one

in romanian land

right at the border

he can take that

and use it

[junior imp]

In mountains

no railroads

I'd say ally with hungary and use their

supply hubs or just do a quick yugoslavia take over

[split fulcrum]

yes

romania eventually becomes legionary romania

if that save is historical

[junior imp]

I'd prefer to invade ngl

That takes kinda time and he needs quick oil I think

[split fulcrum]

i dunno

[junior imp]

He can set them up as a puppet if they can't join allies in time which I doubt

[split fulcrum]

theyre joining allies the moment he declares gang

[silk furnace]

js do mad air and everything is possible

[junior imp]

Yeah

All HOI4 players hate the allies

[feral hedge]

Through bulgaria, you'll get the land and resource rights dw

[junior imp]

and regno del whatever

[split fulcrum]

regno del sud

[feral hedge]

Also you can just ally them and do the integrate romanian economy focus

[zinc light]

regno del snot

[junior imp]

Annex them through puppetry with integrate romanian economy

[blissful sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447639570672914584/1447643344938471556/attachment.gif

[lilac glen]

oh I can't build them cuz

100% civil goods factor

[unkempt pivot]

This is no United Netherlands atp, this is more like Burgundy now lmao

[silk furnace]

do left side

trust

[unkempt pivot]

Also Poland is not yet lost :(

[lilac glen]

Recovering economy?

Sure

[silk furnace]

ye

[split fulcrum]

what.

how the

ah hell nah

[silk furnace]

we have all been there

[split fulcrum]

do these two missions

[silk furnace]

left side is easier for beginners imo

[sudden thistle]

Missions 🥀

[split fulcrum]

ha

[silk furnace]

national missions

[sudden thistle]

This ain’t eu4

[blissful sun]

w gameplay as italy

[split fulcrum]

focuses

[sudden thistle]

Ik

[split fulcrum]

actually said that on accident

@sudden thistle what does one do as the german empir

empire

[silk furnace]

they do middle

[split fulcrum]

i dont think i can go around conquering europe

[sudden thistle]

Liberate rightful German land from the other European oppressors

[sudden thistle]

It’s easy

Dw

[split fulcrum]

poles itis

[sudden thistle]

Poland accepted like 99% of the time

[split fulcrum]

i guess i am supposed to do what the germans did irl

[sudden thistle]

When I played

[split fulcrum]

they even give me poznan?

[slim nexus]

i suck at the german civil war, and its becoming worse every run

[split fulcrum]

poznan and katowice

[kind vale]

I just recently started doing the 4yp and I have a way better economy at all time then when I do peg

[split fulcrum]

four year plan is when youre planning on conquering europe

[kind vale]

Danzig for guarantees?

[kind vale]

Is it possible to do it as monarchy germany or communist germany

[split fulcrum]

i dunno

[worn coral]

i always do left

[junior imp]

which path is that

[kind vale]

Peg

[junior imp]

what

[sudden thistle]

Ja

[kind vale]

Prioritize economic growth

[junior imp]

Oh

[kind vale]

Ye

[junior imp]

I go autarky cuz why not

[silk furnace]

its meta trust

[junior imp]

Its easy

[kind vale]

What is

[sudden thistle]

It is

[silk furnace]

eft side

trust

[kind vale]

Its fun doing the 4yp

[sudden thistle]

Mefo

[kind vale]

Eh

[junior imp]

You just have to conquer the WHOLE earth

for 5% more factory output

[kind vale]

For peg?

[junior imp]

what

The autarky path

[kind vale]

Restoring bresk lotivisk? Is a pretty good path

[junior imp]

I didn't play the new german empire yet

[kind vale]

Wdym? You dont have to conquer the entire world

[junior imp]

the communist path was peak though

[junior imp]

Yeah I know its exageration

[kind vale]

Spartacus is my favorite german path

[junior imp]

you need a lot of resources though

[kind vale]

Ahhhh

[junior imp]

300 or sum minimum

[sudden thistle]

New?

[kind vale]

Sweden and Yugoslavia have a good amount

[sudden thistle]

It’s like 14 months old

[fringe shell]

i fked it up already if i wanna go ottomans?

[junior imp]

no

I think?

I don't remember exactky

what did you choose

for the ottoman dudes that want to return

[junior imp]

Yeah

but no oil other than romania barely any tungsten without trying to get africa

[kind vale]

Then the Baku oil fields

[dusky burrow]

roughly double the piercing since i didn't put doctrines in here
that said for singleplayer usage this is pretty good

[kind vale]

Just gotta cap the ussr

[junior imp]

I can do that but never did only did as poland

I can't conquer USSR without being Poland I swear

[dusky burrow]

you need to pick DP in elections

but other than that just wait for the event

[kind vale]

Its pretty easy

[slim nexus]

Have u not seen an anime mod before

[fringe shell]

how? i could only pick democratic

[kind vale]

Just use tanks to get encirclements

[junior imp]

My AI did some dumbahh stuff and left odessa unmanned

got a whole or 2 armies encircled

rage quit

deleted hoi4

[kind vale]

😭😭

[junior imp]

reinstalled a few days after

I'm never conquering without micro bro I swear

[kind vale]

This is why I dont have any aid nations that arent puppets or that wont become puppets in my factions

[junior imp]

the second I let the AI walk they go to leningrad from the other side of the world

I was almost winning too in that save I had leningrad kiev and some important supply places

but my men in odessa decided to go on a trip to LENINGRAD

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FRONTLINE

WE DIDN'T EVEN NEED MEN THERE

THERE WERE MECHANIZED

[dusky burrow]

there's an event where you have two options, the DP and the CHP. Both of them are democratic but only one will send you down the Ottoman route

[junior imp]

I hate playing turkiye in HOI4

I say this as a turk

I can NOT do anything

[kind vale]

Ive never played as turkey

[slim nexus]

i hate doing the german civilwar

[junior imp]

I can do byzantine as greece

but can NEVER EVER do it as Turkiye

[kind vale]

Its the easiest civil war

[junior imp]

Same

I used to

solo it

but Idk why I can't no more

[silk furnace]

js cut them in half

and then its history

[junior imp]

I try taking south germany first

[split fulcrum]

try snaking to berlin

[slim nexus]

ai pushes in all directions and they have somehow good equipment

[junior imp]

but my north gets destroyed

[junior imp]

They have better units

we get cavemen with guns

[paper echo]

WHAT DID THE AI DO

[junior imp]

wait lemme show you one of my saves and what map mod is that?

Thats not big trust

[grizzled yarrow]

not rlly

[kind vale]

I get it done in 40 days, although most of the ai units are artillery

[paper echo]

tno map mod

[lilac glen]

Why can't my guys get in?

[sudden thistle]

Is the puppet in the war

[kind vale]

Bulgaria aint in the war

[split fulcrum]

cant attack from neutral land

[sudden thistle]

Btw put troops in Slovakia

[slim nexus]

get bulgaria in, and also look at the czech border with romania

[split fulcrum]

put some guys in slovakia

[junior imp]

This is peak peace deal

[split fulcrum]

that fella planning on marching to berlin

[split fulcrum]

stop

delete

horrible

never show this again

what is a kashubi

[junior imp]

Poland is the worst in every AI peace deal

[junior imp]

Idk

[slim nexus]

ive seen worse

[junior imp]

All of us prob did

but it equally sucks

[junior imp]

and is a pain for eyes

[silk furnace]

wait are you the real saf?

[silk furnace]

.

[junior imp]

I have been blinded and traumatized

In just a second

[slim nexus]

im so done with this game, ive lost my 5th civilwar this hour

[junior imp]

Happens

I can win German civil war just takes too much time

And the AI gets way better units