hoi4-general

[sterile nacelle]

But i think not

[obtuse lodge]

is this supposed to happen? didnt see it in the guide im following

[sterile nacelle]

Its basically irrelevant

But order the men to fight is my to go

[obtuse lodge]

are u talking to me or other guy?

[sterile nacelle]

To u

[obtuse lodge]

ah so order to move out?

[sterile nacelle]

I dont think it'll get u in to war with the Comintern

Soo yes

[obtuse lodge]

aight thanks

[sterile nacelle]

@narrow zinc why do u always type but not speak

[narrow zinc]

Kinda excited that I pulled off a manoeuvre

I lost 460k as Germany

I inflicted 3.88 mil casualties on the Russians

I watched 1 guide

[sterile nacelle]

In a incriclement or the whole war

[narrow zinc]

Whole war

But managed to pull off like 3 encirclements with 150-200k casualties

[sterile nacelle]

Thats great

[woven mist]

Hello for hoi4 Ryzen 5 7500f is good ?

[sterile nacelle]

Its good to see new players learning

[woven mist]

For late game

[supple summit]

extremely

[narrow zinc]

And now I outnumber the Soviets divisions wise

[sterile nacelle]

How many hours do u got

[supple summit]

my 10400f is weaker than the ryzen 5 7500f and it runs it pretty well at late game

[woven mist]

Because i have R5 2600 however in ~1943 one month is maybe 1 or 2 minutes

With optimization mods

[supple summit]

ah alright fair

with a ryzen 5 7500f it will run extremely well

ill estimate probably 30-40 fps running 5 speed after 1944

it will definetly run 50-60 fps early game at 5 speed

[woven mist]

Thx bro

[supple summit]

np

[narrow zinc]

Here’s the thing, it sounds unbelievable but I got 22 hours

[woven mist]

Ram does impact ?

[narrow zinc]

But I knew the basics because I learned them from a friend of mine who also had it

[supple summit]

I mean it helps with loading times and some other stuff

[narrow zinc]

So I just watched him play and he explained the mechanics

[supple summit]

i would recommend 16gb to be sure

i have 16gb rn and its really good

but 8 gb would work too

[woven mist]

Ok thx

Can you run Millenium dawn ?

With your 10400k

[supple summit]

havent actually tried

[narrow zinc]

I didn’t know how to encircle effectively, I watched one guide and there I am

[supple summit]

but im sure i would be able to

lemme try

[woven mist]

Okay

[supple summit]

i gotta install it so ill ping you when i run it

[woven mist]

Ok

[neat kayak]

The communist path for the Phillippines is still broken

[sterile nacelle]

Ahh young soul

If u need any questions answerd then ask soo

[narrow zinc]

I know the memes so I know the experience

[woven mist]

I've 1000 hours but , how build army with minor nations ?

[sterile nacelle]

Thats the neet part

[woven mist]

The best i got was with Romania

[sterile nacelle]

U dont

[supple summit]

speaking of armies

[neat kayak]

you do

[supple summit]

tryna fight the german army pisses me off

[neat kayak]

line arty is garbage

[sterile nacelle]

I dunno i always go grandbattle doctorine 2 infantry 2 artilery

[supple summit]

mm

[sterile nacelle]

2 stack infantry

[supple summit]

not entirely anymore

[sterile nacelle]

2 infantry

[neat kayak]

it is

[woven mist]

Which country ?

[supple summit]

not with the new sub doctorines

[supple summit]

austria

[royal crown]

yo talking about divisions

[supple summit]

i united the austria-hungary empure

and still got shit on

[neat kayak]

man why commie phillippines is still broken?

and can't get independent

[woven mist]

Bro why you want to suffer ?

[royal crown]

how do i unlock the 5th unit in a line for a division

so i can for example have 5 infantry in 1 line

[supple summit]

if you play minors then it just forces you to adapt with the shit you have

[sterile nacelle]

Doctorine

[supple summit]

good for learning

[royal crown]

which one

[supple summit]

but shit if you get no where

[sterile nacelle]

Ehh grandbattle plan

[royal crown]

k

[sterile nacelle]

And superior fire power

[narrow zinc]

Just got 315k

[royal crown]

thanks and bye

[narrow zinc]

My god

[royal crown]

(is that the artillery one)

[narrow zinc]

Yes

[royal crown]

i dont have the 5th slot tho...

well

whatever

[heavy vigil]

chat

[royal crown]

ima go bye

[royal crown]

hello

[sterile nacelle]

Yes

[azure palm]

Evening

[round jetty]

finally figured out how to turn off autocorrect on android

[neat kayak]

this game gets more broken with more dlcs it gets

the dlcs are good

[azure palm]

If you dont want to suffer, dont play hoi4.

[neat kayak]

but not the state of this game

[neat kayak]

except GoE

[woven mist]

Sadly

[urban tiger]

I want HOI 5 to extend to cold war, Korean War, and Vietam War!

[neat kayak]

we will have to wait for hoi5 to first launch

then to get flavour

so i will say about 10 years from now on

[azure palm]

I mean, there are mods for that

[sterile nacelle]

First we need to have nasa pcs at home so we don't explode at 1950

[neat kayak]

Fr

[clear dagger]

how is germany losing the war

i literally made it so every state they took becomes their core

[neat kayak]

This country is doomed

i will be stuck at 0 stability

thanks game

[lilac glen]

How do I prevent France from bombing my industry and railroads?

[idle spoke]

What is the best mod for portugal?

[lilac glen]

My units are holding the line but the air support is destroying everything

[neat kayak]

Anti air

[lilac glen]

Did you mean to reply to me?

[neat kayak]

yeah

sorry

i am pretty tired

[lilac glen]

Lol

What is the difference between support anti air and battalion anti air?

[neat kayak]

battalion anti air is not worth it

[clear dagger]

luxembourg reign supreme

[neat kayak]

against the ai

static and support shreds their af

if you want to drive it further

space marines

[lilac glen]

Why?

[neat kayak]

bc it's expensive

and it doesn't provide that much help

[lilac glen]

Af?

[neat kayak]

Airforce

[lilac glen]

What are space marines? Lol

[lilac glen]

Oooooo

[neat kayak]

infantry with a tank

they basically shred the ai

it's best for minor nations

since you get very late an industry good for tanks

except if you're poland

or austria

or hungary

or lithuania

[lilac glen]

And for major?

[neat kayak]

Go tanks

[lilac glen]

Just tanks?

[neat kayak]

even though i like doing space marines for majors too

but it's up to you

[lilac glen]

I am a newbie

[neat kayak]

Brazil game , no af only space marines

tanks and aa tanks

ignore the date ( thanks Sweden)

[lilac glen]

Bro is playing after end date

[neat kayak]

Achv run

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-crying-crying-mario-stairs-gif-20008055

[tulip thorn]

Very common

[neat kayak]

nah f it

[tulip thorn]

Nothing like playing past 1948

[neat kayak]

the secret path for the Phillies is broken

i click the event

[tulip thorn]

You have got to play to 1966

[neat kayak]

it says MacArthur takes

and no leader change

still the open door 🥀

[tulip thorn]

It takes awhile for him to show up

lol

[lilac glen]

https://tenor.com/view/touch-grass-grass-edit-discord-mod-take-a-shower-grass-gif-4150619048381921111

Lol

[tulip thorn]

The event doesnt instantly put him in charge

You have to give it a few in game weeks

[tulip thorn]

never

2100 hours in hoi4, I need to get to 3k

[neat kayak]

same for the commie path it's bugged out

[tulip thorn]

Once again, I did the macarthur path

I gave it a few weeks and he showed up

[neat kayak]

it doesn't show up no matter i do

[tulip thorn]

Did you wait

[neat kayak]

yes

[tulip thorn]

How long

[lilac glen]

My record was 1k hours in Stellaris

[neat kayak]

i can do his focuses

[lilac glen]

But damn, HOI4 is so BS

[neat kayak]

but no MacArthur

[tulip thorn]

Hoi4 is the best slop game on the planet

[lilac glen]

You watch 12 tutorials

[tulip thorn]

No

[lilac glen]

Wait mf

[tulip thorn]

I watched content about it for 2 years then played it

[lilac glen]

I am not done

[neat kayak]

it's almost ww2 and no MacArthur

F it

[lilac glen]

Damn

[tulip thorn]

Just wait a little longer

[neat kayak]

it's may

1939

[lilac glen]

I waited 30 minutes worth of tutorials and started the game

[tulip thorn]

You will get him eventually

[lilac glen]

I couldn't even get Anschluss

[neat kayak]

and his portrait is change

[lilac glen]

How do you even get Anschluss? ;-;

[neat kayak]

this game is good but too many bugs

[tulip thorn]

By spamming units

[neat kayak]

Restore order buff is gone

[tulip thorn]

Its like the easiest thing ever

[neat kayak]

no macarthur

[lilac glen]

It's not strength based?

[tulip thorn]

no

You just need more units than them

lol

[lilac glen]

Oh

Damn

Btw

[fierce mortar]

did you guys notice that in the nwe patch, naval training finally gives doctorine progress?

[lilac glen]

Ethiopian war is literally Paradox's biggest troll

[tulip thorn]

How so

Its so easy

Beat it in a month

[lilac glen]

Idk what your black magic is

But it takes forever for me

[tulip thorn]

Its so easy

I could boot up italy rn in base game hoi4

[lilac glen]

You have 2k hours

You have no right to say its easy

[tulip thorn]

You dont need 2k hours to beat it

[neat kayak]

i can't even do raids

bc i barely get stab

[tulip thorn]

I have known how to beat ethiopia since my first 60 hours

[lilac glen]

I am not saying I can't beat it

[tulip thorn]

Even before by blood alone

[neat kayak]

ww2 started

no MacArthur

[lilac glen]

I am talking about the gov-in-exile bs

[tulip thorn]

Yeah I know

Never had that

[lilac glen]

If you join as Germany and that happens

[neat kayak]

you can get an achv

[lilac glen]

You get locked out of several major focus trees

[neat kayak]

if you go with Britain

CK 4

Poland capped

[viscid swift]

guys what is the best infantry division template?

[lilac glen]

It's not even my first 15

[tulip thorn]

Once again, if you use all the units italy starts with 24 in the north and the rest in the south. And all the italian cas ethiopia dies

[neat kayak]

this simply doesn't work

same for the communist path

[lilac glen]

I am playing as Germanyyyyy

Italy is a beast I don't feel like playing as my first nation

[neat kayak]

Italy is more op than germany

[tulip thorn]

Well the italian ai sucks so ofc they get ethiopia in government exile

[neat kayak]

if you have some knowledge

[tulip thorn]

Italy used to be more op than germany

[lilac glen]

Nah, Italy just sucks ass

[neat kayak]

it still is

paradroop france

steal navy

invade Britain

[tulip thorn]

Dont ever call my italy ass

[neat kayak]

get a lot of nations

[tulip thorn]

I main them, I know everything about italy

[neat kayak]

boom Rome very early on if you do it right

[lilac glen]

I know about this little trick lol

[tulip thorn]

I never form rome

[neat kayak]

let me try commie tree

[lilac glen]

Mussolini's birthday now

[tulip thorn]

Unless I do the monarchist path or papal states

[lilac glen]

No google search

[neat kayak]

without nochekcs and autocomplete

[tulip thorn]

I dont know about real ww2 italian history lmao

I meant everything in game

[lilac glen]

Fake ass italian

[neat kayak]

i hope he burns

[lilac glen]

[tulip thorn]

Im not italian

[neat kayak]

biggest buffon ever

[tulip thorn]

But italy is fun in game

Like really fun

[neat kayak]

Every path

italy has been well done

[lilac glen]

• Austria main
• Hates Mussolini

[fierce mortar]

i don't like ethiope because they always do their revolution thing, and make revolts in africa

[neat kayak]

yeah

i know he wanted to protect austria

but still a buffon

[tulip thorn]

Not the communist or democratic one

Those 2 suck

[neat kayak]

they are pretty good

[dusky burrow]

historical btw

[tulip thorn]

But the others are good

[neat kayak]

commie path you get daily compliance

[lilac glen]

It's not even that

[tulip thorn]

You literally get that as normal italy

[supple summit]

space marines are good until you face the middle east

[tulip thorn]

And lots of cores as rome

[lilac glen]

It's that Hitler snapping Austria out of existence is like one of the big WW2 events lol

[neat kayak]

i did enjoy the democratic path for italy

you can form EU if i ain't wrong

[tulip thorn]

Greater italy gives you a few cores and daily compliance. Rome gives lots of cores

No reason to ever do communist or democratic path

Even the democratic monarchist path is way better

[neat kayak]

more cores doesn't mean more fun you know?

[tulip thorn]

You can form eu and rome at the same time

[tulip thorn]

Thats why I prefer greater italy

Dont really form rome all that often

[neat kayak]

if that's the case then the GoE nations should be the most fun lol

and guess what

[silk gust]

Italy ai cooking? (Ignore Ethiopia)

[tulip thorn]

They do this all the time now

[neat kayak]

you don't get independent after you complete the mission to USA

[tulip thorn]

And still lose lol

[neat kayak]

commie phillies sounds fun on paper

but it's bugged

[heavy vigil]

italy is poor

[tulip thorn]

true

[viscid swift]

guys what is the best infantry division template?

[silk gust]

Never seen Italy do this. This is on vanilla to

[viscid swift]

it cant be... they're... useful?

[tulip thorn]

I see them do this all the time

[silk gust]

They are not getting help too. Just their troops

[tulip thorn]

They will lose to a naval invasion all the same

Its quite sad really

But the ai just is not good enough to be italy long term

[merry sluice]

😭 Made my first medium tank battalion as Dietsland (Belgium) and the thing got intstantly blitzkrieged by france

[silk gust]

lol

[viscid swift]

btw guys will the reich always lose on vanilla historical?

[silk gust]

Idk never gotten that far

[tulip thorn]

Depends

But yeah

[viscid swift]

on what?

[tulip thorn]

if there is no player involvement they will almost always lose

[silk gust]

Bro the German jus let me puppet Slovakia as Hungary

[viscid swift]

what if the player is sweden

and does nothing

and just sells stuff

and buys

[tulip thorn]

Thats not player involvement

[viscid swift]

alright

[tulip thorn]

Now sending lend lease would

Lend lease can change things

And if italy and germany lock in enough i've seen them sealion

So really the axis lose like 98% of the time on historical

[viscid swift]

so you're saying if i wont start a lend lease with germany then i can create nukes?

[tulip thorn]

maybe 99%

[vague abyss]

does static anti air shoot down normal planes anymore

[silk gust]

Bro Italy is cooking in my game

[viscid swift]

at first i wanted to type "do you ask a boar if it shits in the forest?" but i have no clue what static anti air is

[vague abyss]

state anti air

[viscid swift]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snipping-supertool-gif-19434006

[tulip thorn]

?

[viscid swift]

oh well then do you ask a boar if it shits in the forest?

[viscid swift]

yes. yes it does.

[tulip thorn]

State anti air will shoot down any enemy plane

Even kills paratroopers

[vague abyss]

ok just making sure someone was yapping on reddit about it not in the new dlc

[tulip thorn]

reddit is the 2nd worst place for hoi4 advice

number 1 is chatgpt

[vague abyss]

ik

jut making sure

[terse lantern]

Do you guys know if these army insignia are unique to France?
Trying to find info on them online to see if they're historical.

[tulip thorn]

pretty sure they are the same across all nations

But i've also never cared to check because they are useless

[terse lantern]

Yeah I don't blame you haha

I got my butt kicked as Iraq in the Red Dusk mod and I realised I need to brush up on the basics so I've started a France game

[merry sluice]

nvm that one medium tank, I had gotten invited to the axis and big daddy reich bailed me out and won me france ❤️

[slim nexus]

Real asf

[merry sluice]

who should be the next target of my campaign?

[slim nexus]

Getting a job

[merry sluice]

💀

[tulip thorn]

hoi4 is kinda like a 9-5

[warped flint]

Who should I play right now

[tulip thorn]

but better

[warped flint]

im bored

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-the-boss-i'm-bored-bored-adult-swim-gif-12640075230275889445

[merry sluice]

why does it say 0 divisions?

[tulip thorn]

there are no units assigned

[warped flint]

Do you have naval invasion tech researched?

[tulip thorn]

Did you research naval invasion tech

[merry sluice]

no...

[tulip thorn]

you need it

[warped flint]

yk what ill play kumul khanate

maybe

idk

[vague abyss]

So do I make peace with germany and keep the urals or continue fighting?

updated situation

[merry sluice]

it seems that they took a chunk out of you

[vague abyss]

yeah

[vague abyss]

the reich has offered me peace in return for everything west of the urals?

i could continue the fight or accept

[merry sluice]

if you can beat them full send if you can't I'd risk it for the biscuit

[vague abyss]

my infantry is barely fitting 1 per tile, had to take the mongols here

we retook leningrad but running low on inf

[buoyant heath]

if i as ethiopia occupy somiland and eritrea and do the international mediation focus, will the white peace give me somiland and eritrea?

[torpid light]

Chatgpt

[spiral lily]

Why is portugal declaring against all majors?

[tulip thorn]

they get a focus that gives them war goals on alot of nations

I cant remember for what though

I think for old territory they used to have or smh

[spiral lily]

okay makes sense. Still not that smart from the AI

[tulip thorn]

ai and smart dont fit in hoi4

[spiral lily]

agreed. This happened the first time

seems like they want to get wiped off the map

[vague abyss]

TF JUST HAPPENED

The world imploded

anyways so uhh time to fix up the soviet union

[lilac glen]

...what am I looking at-

[vague abyss]

the germans decided to reichsommisart west russia

[lilac glen]

[viscid badger]

bro got capped 😔

[vague abyss]

no

i just did peace

[viscid badger]

😭

there will be no grand parade in berlin ig

🥀

[vague abyss]

we rebuild

but this time with modern tonks

[hollow narwhal]

no way! a map that has data on greenland

im gona play an actually historical germany game (like no cheese / anschluss in july 1936 LMAO)
probably for the first time 🤣

[digital aurora]

How did you manage to get peace with the nazi's after being pushed back past the Urals?

[lilac glen]

Is there any scenario you can't save in this game?

I am brand new

I accidentally started WW2 after invading the Netherlands

I failed to do Anschluss cuz I thought it was a strength matter, not a numbers one

[digital aurora]

How bad is it? Like have the rest of the Allied armies made land fall on europe?

[lilac glen]

Wym land fall?

[digital aurora]

Like have rest of the allied troops reached your front line? or are you only up against the netherlands right now?

[supple summit]

guys why is it when i invade the soviets as germany with a small amount of guys it goes really smoothly but when i invade russia as a minor i loose more guys than the russians do

[lilac glen]

The war has just started

Not even 6 months in

I am brand new lol

I am having issue with air superiority

[digital aurora]

Are you using the same division templates?

[viscid badger]

division hardness, attacking with inf, soviet defensive buffs, red air etc...

[lilac glen]

I am holding the line but France is doing a mess with their air wings

[supple summit]

tbf i do everything mostly the same except with a bunch more anti air

[viscid badger]

well AA is a good idea, what mod are you playing or is it vanilla?

[supple summit]

vanilla

[lilac glen]

Btw, how the frick does the navy work 😭 😭 😭

Britain is melting my navy

[supple summit]

thing is you dont fight the british with your own navy

the brits just are too strong with their navy

idk thats how it goes for me

[hollow narwhal]

well if u have a good navy u can beat them

[viscid badger]

you can win against the uk fleet if you have light crusiers with decent light attack and you have carriers, i've won against uk both in sp and mp

[lilac glen]

Whose navy then? Italy?

(sarcasm)

[lilac glen]

I don't know how to make a good navy 😔

[supple summit]

idk bruh

i just use naval bombers

[lilac glen]

Oh

Soldiers? Throw air wings at it!

Air wings? Throw your air wings at it!

Ships? Throw air wings at it!

🥀

[supple summit]

a naval bomber a day keeps the navy at bay

[hollow narwhal]

make carriers with the most plane spots ( i forgot the name of the module)
wait do u have the dlc

[lilac glen]

Too much DLC

Idk which, but yeah, I do

Why?

[lilac glen]

Carriers with max naval bombers?

[hollow narwhal]

ok then just put as many like .. the plane spot modules
no armor

maybe like 75% naval bombers and 25% naval fighters

[worn kelp]

what would you guys say is the most fun china?

[supple summit]

soviet

[hollow narwhal]

well for warlords prob guangxi clique

[worn kelp]

i see, thank you just struggling to find an interesting china

[dusky burrow]

Hashemite Iraq is relatively chill tbh

[hollow narwhal]

casually betraying the fascist cause

[dusky burrow]

true

but no helicopter ig

[hollow narwhal]

i hate how stuff moves around when someone becomes available 😭
i was clicking rommel lmao

uhh what

uh

guess ur not supposed to close the game from task manager LOL

i tried to go back a few days to hire rommel instead but it saved + the save broke lol

[ashen ingot]

want to hear the most cursed Yalta conference conditions i could think of?

[hollow narwhal]

soviet union gets france 🤡

[ashen ingot]

so, brown UK, who is in the allies, and is at war with germany ( failed to flip in time to not guarantee poland), naval invades hamburg and doesnt take any fr*nch territory. Napoleon VI ( who joined the allies because they failed to form continental system in time) is currently exiled on new Caledonia. the confederates hold usa, whilst Litenchstien holds alaska, and new zeland (who broke away from the crown) formed polynesia and owns hawaii. stalin is in his bunker, having lost everything east of the Urals AND Vladivostok, hosted in german occupied Yalta ofc

this technically fufills the conditions for yalta to fire, right?

[dusky burrow]

are there two nationailst spains?

[hollow narwhal]

i think the other one is the anarchists but bugged to orange

[elder folio]

i will never understand why i play minor nations, i always just end up triggering USSR, axis or allies and having to wait for either the USSR or Allies to bail me out and save me from the other

[lilac glen]

HELL YEAH

I GOT FRANCE IN MY SECOND ATTEMPT AS GERMANY

[lilac glen]

Perhaps you just like minors

[real coral]

omg hi, you play hoi4????

[elder folio]

talk about a small world

what are you doing here?

i play HOI4 sometimes yeah

[real coral]

i might actually decide to learn how to play after 50 hours

[elder folio]

i kinda know how but i still can't pull off a world conquest

at least i kinda understand navy tho

[real coral]

i barely know how to do war, except navy and air

[lilac glen]

Should I have made Vichy France? Was it worth it?

[elder folio]

pros: less management
cons: AI forgets to defend against british naval invasions

[elder folio]

ah, game takes a bit of practise tbf

[viscid swift]

Guys what so u typically do when playing sweden

Because I build railways

[lilac glen]

Ugggg

Reload save?

[elder folio]

well, a while back i tried making the nordic empire but i took finland too early and the USSR steamrolled me in 1941

[elder folio]

just guard their ports and you'll be grand

[viscid swift]

Damn I would kinda say its a skill issue but i'd do the same thing

[lilac glen]

Be grand? What does that mean? lol

[elder folio]

the skill issue in question:
hydrogen bomb vs coughing blahaj

[elder folio]

you'll be good/alright, sorry i'm irish.

[viscid swift]

They had a nuke? 😭

[elder folio]

it's a reference to a meme

[viscid swift]

I dont get that

[elder folio]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[viscid swift]

Oh okay

Ngl I think forts on the border would do the trick

[lilac glen]

Any way to annex Vichy France?

[viscid swift]

Im pretty sure when u cspitulate France then u can either take the whole France or make vichy

[lilac glen]

I made Vichy just...

It was historical?

I thought it was a good idea to

Why wouldn't Paradox make it a good decision???

😭

[viscid swift]

Vichy is good in mu opinion

[lilac glen]

Why

I am not saying it isn't

Just convince me

[viscid swift]

Its basically taking care of africa

[jolly flower]

i also make vichy!

[lilac glen]

How? It's neutral

[viscid swift]

No its not

How is it neutral

[jolly flower]

its not neutral but its not not neutral

[ashen ingot]

can yall think of a more cursed set of conditions that can hold a yalta conference in hoi4 ( also does this even work?)

[viscid swift]

I should be sleeping

[lilac glen]

No faction and can't join factions 😔

[viscid swift]

Im pretty sure its yoyr puppet

[dusky burrow]

Today I learned that mines increased naval penalty

[viscid swift]

Naval what

[dusky burrow]

It's a shame that aerial minelaying is a 1943 tech

[dusky burrow]

The penalty you get when amphibious

[viscid swift]

The only thing thst i understand about navy is, click z, fight, 0 ships

[viscid swift]

[dusky burrow]

This division ought to have a -35% penalty, but because of mines it has 12.71% more

Okay I don't know the formula fully because this is the other side

[dusky burrow]

And yes this value is increasing over time

[quasi viper]

Torpedo boats and gunboats should be their own thing separate from Destroyers.

[bright arrow]

And do what

[quasi viper]

A new type of boat would be nice, just called a patrol boat.

Faster than but weaker than eavery other ship in the game.

[bright arrow]

They aren't exactly made for high sea

[quasi viper]

They can be used on the high seas irl though

[bright arrow]

And with MTG you can technically make Dessies whatever you want

[quasi viper]

The American PT boats from WW2 were awesome

[dusky burrow]

Basically the midget sub version of destroyers, maybe?

but fast

Probably useful for port defense

[lilac glen]

Historically yes

But it doesn't seem to do anything-

What can Vichy France do?

Btw

I got distracted by the Spanish Civil War lol

[bright arrow]

With or without La resistance?

[hollow narwhal]

what a plan

[warm otter]

i did it

i fixed 1.17

buildings were malfunctioning

[lilac glen]

With

Why?

Btw

Is it only on my side or in-game texts have quite some errors?

A few events/description have only a . instead of my country's name

And the Reichskommissariats decisions have an extra space in their effect descriptions lol

Are game files corrupted on my sides or Paradox just commits a bunch of minor mistakes?

It's nothing game breaking, but it breaks the immersion a bit

[idle berry]

Let it sit for like a month and everything is going to be fixed

[lilac glen]

I trust you, Bread

[heady bison]

Is there any purpose of putting a machine gun as the main armament for a tank

[clear knot]

Is there any advantage to medium/heavy fighters over light

[heady bison]

Range

[clear knot]

Are there any real downsides?

[heady bison]

Less agility

[clear knot]

Well. If you have enough of em that won’t matter

[heady bison]

They are useful to provide cover to tactical bombers or strategic bombers

In places where air bases are distant

[clear knot]

But not for air superiority

[heady bison]

Maybe some MIO and stuff can help

[clear knot]

MIO?

[heady bison]

The companies

[clear knot]

Ah

So it’s better to stick with light planes then?

I know cas is better as a light airframe

[heady bison]

Depends where you are fighting

[clear knot]

I’m playing Russia

So pretty much Europe and Asia

[heady bison]

Plenty of airbases overlapping in the west

Tactical have bigger payload though

Good for destroy infraestructure

[clear knot]

Huh

So bomber and fighter spam

[heady bison]

CAS and light fighter for regular stuff. Tac and heavy fighter for deeper missions

Light fighter to clean the skies so your CAS can maximize their strikes on enemy armies

Tacticals to bomb railways or infrastructure so enemy armies loose organization and equipment

But small fighters may not be efficient to protect those tactical bombers

[clear knot]

Ah I see

[heady bison]

Which is where heavy fighters come in

Heavy fighters can also have more punching power to take down enemy heavy planes that have lots of turrets

[clear knot]

So I should build a balance

[heady bison]

Medium planes also have bigger payloads to take down ships

[clear knot]

I haven’t quite gotten the hang of air so I’m just turning to figure it out better

[heady bison]

Build what you need

Or what you think you will need in the future

Get the production line started even if it’s a low tech design as you inherit some production efficiency for that equipment type

[hollow narwhal]

hmmmmm

this wil either do nothing or be op as hell

[clear knot]

Thanks

I’ll try all that out

[wraith mauve]

Uhh whats a good light tank template

[hollow narwhal]

i think this is good LOL

[wraith mauve]

Holy expensive but yes sir

[hollow narwhal]

💀 sub carriers

[dusky burrow]

No

[hollow narwhal]

well i can invade

which means the royal navy isnt here

[dusky burrow]

That's almost as expensive as a medium division yet it performs similar to infantry

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[hollow narwhal]

good doesnt mean price effective

lmao

[dusky burrow]

I think the new update has hurt the AI tbh

[hollow narwhal]

if the navy is harder for players
then its impossible for ai lool

1000 breakthrough on a naval invasion

lmao

but ig the soft attack is low for .. 1944

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[hollow narwhal]

i suppose anything would work when it has 50000 cas helping it

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that amount of CAS will get you through the Maginot without fort buffs

Trust me I tried it

[hollow narwhal]

lmao

[dusky burrow]

The Maginot is a lot weaker than you think

[hollow narwhal]

-150% attack

[heavy vigil]

inpenetrable line when faced with mountaineer marine with some airplane

dont talk about modern politics please sir.

[hollow narwhal]

just like some old man's claims for a 1500% discount

[lavish cliff]

is belgium screwed

[heavy arch]

i wonder how many germans die from starvation and attrition every day

[idle berry]

I am THE bread of wisdom so good choice

And if it doesn’t go to plan

[hollow narwhal]

time to cross the atlantic with my sub fleet

[idle berry]

I’m arresting paradox for treason

[lavish cliff]

lots

I'm done with world conquest so I'm just trolling now

I'm trying to get the dam raiding achievement

[idle berry]

I’ve seen enough

Blame it on Iraq

And nuke them

[hollow narwhal]

this is kinda hilarious

[misty fossil]

(it will do nothing)

11 sub visibility..

[dusky bison]

It has taken way to long to get to this but i can almost build the train track from Gibraltar to Singapore

also buying the world is now the only way i can expand as the allies consist of the world mines Japan i will take the world just very slowly

[sharp sierra]

a

[dusky bison]

We don't talk about the Americas they look atrocious but I do own Panama and I got the achievement for having the Suez and Panama so that was fun granted the Panama was blown when the US was collapsing

[dusky burrow]

even with level 10 forts

yes

[dusky burrow]

true

[hollow narwhal]

the new navy system is so dumb

im litearlly going by land cuz its faster than finding how to get naval dominance

i tried 1 task force per sea zone, 2, 3
it ujst wont cover all of them

idk how i got the altantic

[dusky bison]

Idk I haven't tested it very much but when I took Spain by naval invasion and paratroopers I just threw a very large number of ships at the problem

[hollow narwhal]

i have 600 subs
which i had literally just used to cross the atlantic

but then somehow something changed and it woudlnt work for south america ??

[dusky bison]

Hmmm definitely very strange The only thing I could think of and when I got kicked from the Allies it caused a bit of a problem is maybe a range limit or supply

[hollow narwhal]

these people have no faith

💀

[dusky bison]

Nice

Enjoy dividing up the world One thing that could always help if you have extra war score left take their navies and add that to your own

[hollow narwhal]

i lvoe peace conferences

[clear dagger]

result of having every state in the world be a german core: they somehow suck more

[hollow narwhal]

i should sleep lol

ok well its not THAT bad
i slept at like 10 and woke up at 3
💀

[proud horizon]

why the add_equipment command doesnt work anymore?

[lethal linden]

Put somebody with 10,000+ hours on Stalin and I’ll still build a thousand year Reich

[atomic grove]

just use ale

and then any number

it gives any amount of the latest equipment you have

[proud horizon]

oh thats the command i was looking for, i thought it was ae and thought it didnt work anymore 😭

thank you

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-chris-hemsworth-funny-amazing-amazed-gif-22857988

[warm otter]

hehe

[dense pendant]

Lower the dlc prices

[dusky burrow]

nigh impenetrable shields

and they still take 50 percent damage

because this is hoi4

[sterile nacelle]

Peak cinema

[dusky burrow]

Someone teach hollowbeing about mechwalls

[warm otter]

brutalism

[dusky burrow]

You should declare on some south american country

or north american, that works too

But yeah Ireland is a good option too

[terse lantern]

Was expecting way worse bordergore but am quite happy with this peace conference

Interesting move, Austria.

[proud horizon]

austria is kind of border-gore'ing'

[dusky burrow]

Machiavellian Strategist's div from their leak, I would do hospitals and tank recon instead of artillery and motorized recon (motorized recon is just bad, armored car recon is better)

And no I didn't use anything other than this

[dusky burrow]

thta's not border gore that's just a partition

we're punishing the austrians for hitler

[terse lantern]

Kind of but I think it makes sense

Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were going a bit ham on the annexing stuff down there so I puppeted them in the western parts of Austria

[terse lantern]

My lore logic is that that's what Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia were doing but France had different ideas.

In my mind Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia are thinking of the Austrians as combatants but the French are thinking of the Austrians as victims

[dusky burrow]

fair

[terse lantern]

Annoyingly though I think the run might be dead

My goal was to bring democracy to Europe but because of the whole Democratic thing I can't actually declare war on the three remaining Fascist powers because it's only 1939

Well

Four, really.

Italy joined the Axis but never joined the war

And then there's Spain, Hungary and Bulgaria

[dusky burrow]

Just wait and build up ig

Maybe guarantee a few nations

[warm otter]

axis victory

i did it

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[pearl jackal]

what dlc should i buy (i have none)

[rare cipher]

yo,i have a question

i started playing hoi4 recently

now i have a weird love for sabaton,is it normal?

[pale flare]

was fighting el salvador, chile joined midway, easily won and now i have the option to just yoink chile despite being nowhere near him

this is amazing

free navy 😋

[bronze mango]

Probably no step back or Götterdämmerung

[eternal palm]

Literally double base stats 😭

[bronze mango]

Potentially No compromise no surrender

[eternal palm]

Does this guy even know how to play?

[heavy vigil]

no one does

[eternal palm]

I do

[heavy vigil]

no i disagree

[eternal palm]

Then ur wrong

[heavy vigil]

idk i just play vicky fr

[clear dagger]

I shall endure

[heavy vigil]

nrver even heard of this hoi4 stuff

[cedar lance]

hello casey

[neat oasis]

tank vs tank combat gonna destroy that

[neat oasis]

why seas are red

[eternal palm]

Not really? AI barely knows how to make tanks

And alo that's not the point of an spg

[clear dagger]

the new naval dominance thing

kind of annoying

[neat oasis]

against player

[eternal palm]

Not the point of an spg

Make tds then

[neat oasis]

1k soft attack dont mean anything

[neat oasis]

use td spg and tank in the same template

[eternal palm]

😭

Holy shit

[neat oasis]

700 soft attack and a thousand soft attack does same thing

[eternal palm]

Bro has never played a serious game 🥀

[eternal palm]

[clear dagger]

you know i thought germany would declare war on me with the final blow to communism focus but i had to declare war on them because it was taking too long lol

[soft fulcrum]

chat is anyone here new

[neat oasis]

dude

[soft fulcrum]

brah you pounding the german navy 😭

[eternal palm]

Dudess?

[neat oasis]

if you wanna beat infantry divisions

you can use tanks

it doesnt matter

[eternal palm]

Bros tryna explain the game to me 💀

[neat oasis]

you should beat enemy's tanks

calm down cara cicatriz I dont care your fat sick brain

[eternal palm]

You're talking to me rn

No need to get all uppity

[soft fulcrum]

cara cicatriz 😭

[neat oasis]

hitting 700 soft attack or thosand or million soft attack doesnt mean anything to against a infantry

[eternal palm]

😭

Bro go and revisit 1st grade, you seem to be illiterate

[neat oasis]

🐒

[neat oasis]

SIR YES SIR

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[neat oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-drill-sergeant-yes-boss-yes-sir-all-right-gif-22599540

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233936964173172776/1278218861040111690/togif.gif

[clear dagger]

i am just stealing german trains lol

[eternal palm]

Romanian logistics

[clear dagger]

funny thing is the nearest railroad for them is like 100+ miles away

i am stealing the polar express

https://tenor.com/view/dab-polar-express-polar-conductor-gif-13196885

i also stole an entire division of tanks

[shrewd hill]

how tf

[clear dagger]

using the romanian support company

[azure palm]

You need help for still playing this save file...

[clear dagger]

yeah last one with lux my puppet put a faction commander down and that made the game crash every time i opened it

[azure palm]

ahh

[clear dagger]

i had probably the most powerful compact navy in the world

it was going to be a glorious battle against 5000 ships

[azure palm]

Wait, so you were playing Tannu Tuva and still got a Navy?

[clear dagger]

and 4000 motherships vs 200,000 planes

[clear dagger]

no my last run was lux

but i didnt even get to fight germany because my game crashed from faction dlc bullshit

[azure palm]

ohhh, yeah I mixed up the tannu tuva run with the luxembourg run

[clear dagger]

not even from the almost 2000 enemy divs

i literally had a clone army from karl marxs portrait

wait not even that i went monarchist lux

i got 400 manpower a week from indoctrination

[azure palm]

Thats crazy...

More soldiers than people in luxembourg

[clear dagger]

by like a couple million

i built like 200 refineries to get fuel lmao

[azure palm]

You are a mad man. You shouldnt be allowed near hoi4.

[clear dagger]

i had almost more rubber than germany did and they owned everything else on the earth

[azure palm]

YOU NEED HELP

[clear dagger]

and about 1600 MRBM

i was going to turn europe to ash

TNO superevent level

[azure palm]

just one question, why? Why do you want to suffer? Why do you build MRBM and not ICBM?

[clear dagger]

because i dont need to nuke america and also they are a lot more expensive

well i mean they take longer to make

[azure palm]

are you talking about the luxembourg or the tannu tuva run right now?

[clear dagger]

and i was trying to stockpile because all the resources i got was gonna go bye bye as soon as i go to war

luxembourg

i had so much stuff i just needed more manpower lol

i had 20K motherships in stockpile

[azure palm]

If you were playing luxembourg it makes sense to build MRBM I guess

[azure palm]

WHY

[azure palm]

normal

[clear dagger]

i shouldve went communist

[azure palm]

What did you do instead?

[clear dagger]

monarchist because im based

[azure palm]

you want to suffer?

[clear dagger]

i figured out a way to flip to fascist to join the axis so i dont get invaded in 40'

then back to democratic and even after the election is over the event still pops up to go monarchist

[clear dagger]

i have over 1K hours on luxembourg

yes

[azure palm]

WHY

WHY

WHY

[clear dagger]

i even at one point killed the allies in jan 39

as luxembourg by myself

[inner iron]

Luxembourg is that chill place for nuclear bunker runs

Having divs reach up to 5k defence

[clear dagger]

but then the stuka bombers arrive

coming down they turned the tide

[icy crescent]

"Sir, the Germans took France and Belgium!
We're surrounded!"
"Great! Now we can shoot in every direction!"

[azure palm]

...winged hussars=stuka bombers. Got it

[inner iron]

Their effect is negligible with enough air attack in your divs plus the usual anti air built up

[clear dagger]

not if germany has 30K deployed

[inner iron]

They never build their airports for that

[clear dagger]

with who knows how many more in stockpile

[clear dagger]

do you realize how many high level airports there are next to the benelux

not even including england

[shrewd hill]

nothing like sinking a late game US navy

[inner iron]

Have you seen how fast Germany runs out of manpower when they occupy the Soviets

[clear dagger]

also i dont mean literally 30K cas on lux at the same time but as in they have 30k deployed in germany

[azure palm]

WHAT

[clear dagger]

this was a germany cores the world run

there was only 2 nations in 36

[shrewd hill]

I have sunk the combined British, French and American navies

it's brutal

[clear dagger]

i can beat germany in a normal run better than italy beating ethiopia

[inner iron]

AI Germany has the most god awful occupation laws that they literally kill their manpower just for more resources and industry

[clear dagger]

i made them core every state on earth and they owned them

they had no occupation to deal with

[inner iron]

I had to do the same shit as Japan

[shrewd hill]

they had 600+ ships 💀

[inner iron]

Portugal through some sheer insanity declared war on me in 1939 and dragged the US to war with me

[shrewd hill]

god please just show me the Japanese capitulation event

[inner iron]

I left the US with 30 ships

[shrewd hill]

please

it's 1960

I just want to get out of this game and not touch it for a year

[inner iron]

Atleast I figured out the ideal patrol fleet sizes to clap the AI fleets

[clear dagger]

for some reason in that run germany built like no capital ships and just screens subs and a crap ton of carriers

[inner iron]

The Japanese starting navy is fine with their capitals and screens split into 2 patrol fleets

[shrewd hill]

mega death stack and boom

[inner iron]

Oh I stole a literal mega stack that game

I capped the comintern that had Soviets, Germany, Italy, Spain and all of Scandinavia

I stole like 20 battleships, 30 heavy cruisers and 400 screens from them

Most of them probably ancient garbage 1918 ships

[inner iron]

They do that every game

I saw a 1950 Germany sit on 30 carriers

While Italy had 40 battleships for some ungodly reason

And then Japan is the extra weird one spamming out yamato class super heavies

Britain is probably the "smartest" late game navy to deal with because they eventually build 1944 battleships with maxed out guns

[glass summit]

what is school even about bro…..🥀

[clear dagger]

me with 3 superheavies, 5 modern battleships and 4 modern carriers as luxembourg: i hate myself

tanna tuva for the win

[inner iron]

I usually build navies out of licenses or whatever research I start off with so land and air would be maxed

Randomly plays the Dutch and just spams a swarm of 1918 light cruisers and coastal defence ships with heavy batteries to dunk on battleships

Because I don't start off with anything better

Such a waste of ic but who cares anyway

It works

[clear dagger]

though germany will probably get this back from monthly pop in like 2 months

i havent built a single tank lol

[inner iron]

I did that as the prc and managed to train 48 30w tank divisions

It was all just Soviet, German and British light and medium tanks

[inner iron]

The real prc experience is aggressive battleplan the entire front, losing 3k infantry equipment a day but never going negative cause I'm just capturing stuff

[azure dagger]

True

[regal heron]

should i build carriers? idk whatto build atp lol

[regal heron]

just build fr

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190430460120154274/1446258883352985802/dexter-dexter-morgan-stare-2367495577-13_dragged.gif

[inner iron]

Bro is using battleships as screens by now

[regal heron]

fr

[regal heron]

super heavy*

[inner iron]

They can't even outrun a torpedo as a 12 knot speed ship

[regal heron]

big boom

[regal heron]

boom

[inner iron]

Wow you won with a deathstack

[regal heron]

indeed

[inner iron]

Millennium dawn has cooler naval battles

They had more ships than me and still lost

[regal heron]

the fug is this

[cedar lance]

WOW MD has LHA ships?

[inner iron]

Yea but they're mostly mid

It's just whatever I started off with

[cedar lance]

alr

[inner iron]

Overall supercarriers and cruisers outshine other ship classes

Destroyers are good budget capitals

[cedar lance]

i do like MD

[inner iron]

Lha's are only good as sub hunters I think

[cedar lance]

alr

i do wanna add LHDs and LPDs

[clear dagger]

smallest encirclement on the eastern front 1941 colorized

[unreal raft]

wanna see the biggest

this is the biggest

[cedar lance]

@inner iron hello

what ships are good in MD?

[inner iron]

Carriers are good when you have supercarriers researched to max out the amount of planes they can deploy

Otherwise meh

Then it's cruisers and destroyers

[cedar lance]

alr nice

i do wanna add LHDs LPDs LHAs and LSTs to my hoi4 multi mod btw

[inner iron]

If you're on a budget resources wise, 1965 cruiser hulls work fine too

Since later hulls are more expensive on resources

[cedar lance]

alr

[inner iron]

Just have better guns on them

[cedar lance]

alr

[clear dagger]

i have 8 tank divisions that are entirely stolen lol

i havent even researched a single tank part

[cedar lance]

hey K why doesnt MD have LHDs LPDs and LSTs?

[inner iron]

Design wise, I try to have as many cannons on the cruisers and destroyers, one slot for helicopters to kill subs, rest of the slots are anti air and anti ship platforms

The anti ship modules count as torpedoes in a way so the higher level ones can really ruin the day for the US navy

[cedar lance]

answer this pls

[inner iron]

No clue

[cedar lance]

Oh alr

[cedar lance]

they are used in a lot of modern navies

if they dont wanna add em in

ill do it myself then

[inner iron]

There isn't really a mechanic for ships to act as supply hubs

[cedar lance]

alr

[inner iron]

Besides the floating supply thingies from vanilla

But those are temporary

[cedar lance]

alr

i will add more BIGGER BETTER landing crafts ships and vessels

and troop transport ships

@inner iron

[inner iron]

Convoys already act that way

[cedar lance]

alr

i do wanna add BIGGER BETTER convoy ships

[cedar lance]

i will add a LOT of other ship types to my hoi4 multi mod

@inner iron

[maiden ore]

i wanna get more content, which are the best dlcs/ musthaves? or which ones are the least necessary

[cosmic jay]

when I'm destroying the Japanese as soviet China and the peak song named "Sakkijvari" begins playing

[eternal palm]

NSB and BBA might be the 2 most important ones

The rest is basically filler

[maiden ore]

okay thanks

[robust basalt]

3 strongest soldiers of Mao died for ts 💔

what path?

[cosmic jay]

weak shit

[slow cloak]

im playing a mod The Fire Rises

[ripe slate]

No screenshots of it please, mod is too heavily based on topics not appropriate for this server

[spring vale]

Will you be the heart to my iron.... 4?

[sour nymph]

anyone know how to fix not having oil

im so bad

[spring vale]

Research oil related stuff beforehand

Trade oil

Oil silos

[sour nymph]

its only lettimg me export oil