hoi4-general

[heavy vigil]

you force deploy div

end civil war

its not that hard

youre selling 1 of each

[molten forge]

wb uruguay

[heavy vigil]

you got uh some spawn in units on the fascist path

thats pretty nice

[split fulcrum]

is this guy good??

[heavy vigil]

you can probably snake around the small brazillian army

[molten forge]

whats the worst country lol

[heavy vigil]

hes one of the better guys

[split fulcrum]

hes the best guy i got

[heavy vigil]

iceland for focus tree, western sahara for releasable

western sahara got nothing

you have some absolutely impossible to do formables

[molten forge]

iceland has a unique focus tree?

[heavy vigil]

no industry

[heavy vigil]

can only be released after spanish civil war too

[heavy vigil]

yeah its pretty alright

it just takes forever to get units going

[molten forge]

nvm it needs dlc

[split fulcrum]

@heavy vigil what should i take an ss of that shows the reason on why my units suck?

aka

where do i check

[trim pike]

Open a ticket with @grizzled delta

And send video evidence

[remote quarry]

I don't even need to guess and I know who the generals would be🤣

LOL

[split fulcrum]

guess

[remote quarry]

take a screenshot of your whole screen

with the units

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[remote quarry]

ok zoom in a bit

[heavy vigil]

1942 no barb

[remote quarry]

how do you have 45% stab and 240 factory

[heavy vigil]

not researching moment

[thick kettle]

🤔 this naval system ngl

should i try to be a expert on this

[split fulcrum]

cuz im new

[remote quarry]

ah ok it's probably more of a macro issue

you literally have no industry

show your production?

[heavy vigil]

less than ai i think?

[molten forge]

want a challange i guess

[remote quarry]

ok one thing you can do, go to your occupation tab and change the occupation law to harsh quota, change the occupation template to a new template with just 1 calvary in there

[heavy vigil]

just play anything eithin your skill level

i just know the value of most nations

usually you have something

[remote quarry]

oh this is better than i thought

make a new line of fighters

surely you have 1940 fighter?

[heavy vigil]

remove engineers from inf..

[remote quarry]

put all the new extra mils on the fighter

[heavy vigil]

and probably other stuff too

[remote quarry]

no it's fine they were 15 on support

[heavy vigil]

15K support defacit

[remote quarry]

it's becasue

[split fulcrum]

i had it base cav template

[remote quarry]

the infantry is the garrison template

[fallen vigil]

all u really need is air superiority to win any war

[molten forge]

try take all of africa using sultanate of aussa

[remote quarry]

no

use a new template

with1 calvary

the base calvary template has recon in there

[heavy vigil]

no air??

[remote quarry]

it eats up all your support equipment

[heavy vigil]

i dont want to

[remote quarry]

yes and make a new line and put all the new mils on fighter

[split fulcrum]

youre talking about this right?

[molten forge]

ok

[remote quarry]

yes

[remote quarry]

click on the horse and change the template to a new template with 1 calvary

and change the law to harsh quota

military governor is the worst law possible

[remote quarry]

yes

[split fulcrum]

i did

[remote quarry]

click save and chage it to this

[molten forge]

maybe play yemen?

[remote quarry]

it will resolve your support equipment deficit

and change occupation law to harsh quota

it should give you like 20 extra factory

[molten forge]

is yemen fun

?

[split fulcrum]

Also i have alotta extra civ factories

[heavy vigil]

already done that a few times

[split fulcrum]

What do i do with them?

[heavy vigil]

its not terrible

[remote quarry]

you are on left side economy right?

[molten forge]

ok so i wont do it

[split fulcrum]

4 year plan

[remote quarry]

huh

[heavy vigil]

try saudi arabia

looks stronger than it is

[remote quarry]

are you not at 100% consumer goods yet

[split fulcrum]

Nope

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[split fulcrum]

I did the missions

I got like 100 free civs

[molten forge]

i just kinda want something in the middle

not strong as hell

not weak as hell

[heavy vigil]

then yemen is good

theyre like alright

[remote quarry]

huh?

that's weird

[heavy vigil]

tricky to play

[remote quarry]

whatever that's good, just keep building mils

[shrewd hill]

bye Philippines, never again

[remote quarry]

you need a lot more mils for plane

[shrewd hill]

do you realise your recommendation does absolutely nothing to reduce garrison requirements until Space adds Mil Police?

[split fulcrum]

i have mil police

I am not using it

[shrewd hill]

this template is no different from having a 50 width cav division for your garrison template

[fallen vigil]

guys does manchuria have a new focus? i didnt buy the dlc yet

[split fulcrum]

Because i dont know in what

[shrewd hill]

put it in your garrison template

then keep upgrading your mil police

when you do that, the equipment and manpower requirements go down

[shrewd hill]

it's mostly the same

[remote quarry]

do you know the starting german calvary has a recon company in there?

and they do fulfill garrison requirement?

it's just missing support equipment

[shrewd hill]

yes, you replace that with a mil police

[remote quarry]

no don't put it in

[shrewd hill]

bruh

what are you on about mate

[remote quarry]

you only use it in a large calvary division

[remote quarry]

? try to do math

it's a percentage bonus

you only use it if you have a 50 width calvary

and it's not relevant anyway

small bonus totally not worth the research

[shrewd hill]

yes exactly, make a 40-50 width with the cav 35 army experience bonus

add mil police

[remote quarry]

that's no longer a thing

thank to paradox

[shrewd hill]

cap

[remote quarry]

it's locked behind gbp doctrine now

[shrewd hill]

i mean

GBP is best so

you should be on it anyways

[inner iron]

I did it in a more glorious way with 15 strikes instantly launching

[shrewd hill]

GBP or mass assault

[remote quarry]

i agree

[shrewd hill]

either way

[remote quarry]

but they probably weren't

also mass assault no longer exist

take a look at the recent changes

[shrewd hill]

i was making a nuclear missile a week LOL

[naive thunder]

Oh god

[inner iron]

I was making 1 a day

And the long range ones

[shrewd hill]

never touching the philippines again

heinous country to play

but that shit's over

I'm down to my last two

[naive thunder]

I have never thought this game would be my favorite

[inner iron]

I wish I could say that but my achievements been bugged

[shrewd hill]

which one?

[inner iron]

My China coast achievement never fired

I literally never lost a tile ever

[shrewd hill]

were you ever at war?

I just kept spamming non hist until Japan left me alone

15 divisions a piece on every coastal tile

[inner iron]

I unified China

But still never lost a tile

I had 500 divs on coastal garrison out of spite

[shrewd hill]

did you ever lose Qingdao?

like when you fought Shandong

[inner iron]

And lvl 3 forts on every single tile

I didn't

[shrewd hill]

hm

yeah best bet is just to keep spamming non hist and not going to war

the democratic Japan one where you capitulate Germany is so dumb

I had the most score in the Allies and Stalin was like still in Russia

I literally control Berlin and cap them

and

because the peace conference fired I never got the achievement

so

that's a re-do

[inner iron]

That is comically easy when you kill the Soviets yourself

And then go straight to Germany on aggressive battleplan

Casualties give you warscore

[shrewd hill]

as democratic Japan? how do you get the war goal?

[sudden thistle]

Too little hoi4

[shrewd hill]

you sink ships for war score

way easier

[inner iron]

You can justify when they cause world tension

I did that asap

[shrewd hill]

oh trueeeee

lmao that's such a filthy way to do it

I might try it

but idk, you gotta civil war first and then do naval invasions

[inner iron]

I had no issues with it and spammed casualties with aggressive planning

And shot all their planes down

[shrewd hill]

Paradox creates the most cancerous achievements istg

[inner iron]

I delete the army for the civil war and prioritize taking control of the big vp's in the south with decisions

[sudden thistle]

Capitulate the Soviet Union as Afghanistan

[inner iron]

It's quicker to cap them that way for me

[naive thunder]

better than me

[inner iron]

Cause their armies will be stuck taking your stuff in the south and you just swarm from the north with instant green militias

And Manchukuo is easy to naval invade when all your carriers are stacked with cas and you just park them at dalian

I had no issues landing

[viscid swift]

guys when should i cancel MEFO bills?

[neon coyote]

.

[sudden thistle]

Never

[sudden thistle]

Jojo

Peak

[viscid swift]

why not

[sudden thistle]

Wait are u doing historical Germany

Or alt hist

[viscid swift]

kaiser

[sudden thistle]

Then the other one yeah

Cancel it as soon as possible then

[viscid swift]

altho i did go for the four year plan

[paper echo]

how

site?

[sudden thistle]

Literally just discord

[paper echo]

bruh i dont have that

cuz i didnt have a setting on

[sudden thistle]

Rip

[paper echo]

i didnt put stuff on my activity anyways

im waiting for steam replay

[inner iron]

Steam replay is the real deal

[split fulcrum]

wait

@sudden thistle if my problem was because my troops dont have enough weapons

wouldnt their strength also be low?

they have around 80% strength

the infantry

panzer it is 60%

[sudden thistle]

Yes

But u have so much that it evens out through divisions

[split fulcrum]

so

it is low

[elder shuttle]

how do i do this focus

[viscid stirrup]

which focus

[elder shuttle]

the bottom one

on democrat japan tree

[paper echo]

what does it say

[elder shuttle]

but the civic faction is at meddling and it was at subdued before but still didnt work

[bronze mango]

It needs to be influential, not meddling not subdued

[rich sand]

is there a mod that makes ai better? not giving them bonuses but just better at the game

[bronze mango]

It's influence must be higher not lower

[elder shuttle]

oh i thought it meant it had to be the least influentail oyt of every faction

[bronze mango]

Yeah it's the opposite

[rich sand]

hoi4 is becoming boring once you hit late game because you just steamroll everybody

[bronze mango]

There is that sheep ai mod

And expert ai

[rich sand]

i checked out expert ai and doesn't it just give you the option to give them bonuses to industry?

[random sinew]

yo generally when yall making a standardised army as a major, do yall just make like 1 type of army for defense and attack (excluidng tanks) or 2 seperate armies to battleplan

[bronze mango]

I just make one type of divison

[rich sand]

i personally do 2 seperate

because that way i'll save equipment

even just a little bit

[craggy trail]

~~* Infrastructure level V on all states as well as all state building slots filled up,

• Complete all special projects, technology research & doctrine mastery.~~

[random sinew]

wouldn't attacking specialised cost way more ic tho

cuz of the mechanised

[rich sand]

what's that mean

[prisma saddle]

good?

[bronze mango]

Idk one divison type works very well

[rich sand]

eh no

[bronze mango]

Yeah pretty much, I generally do one tank less but I don't think it makes much of a difference

[craggy trail]

If you're a completionist persay, then there's still stuff left than world conquest

[rich sand]

i typically do 2-3 mech division only, its purpose is to encircle

[random sinew]

ohh

whats your div tempkate then?

[craggy trail]

I've seen people build all railways to level 5 (also part of an italian achievement to make the trains run on time)

[prisma saddle]

damn really? its the first someone say some meta i do is good😭🙏

[rich sand]

oh make sense but for me economy isn't fun it's only fun when you have somebody to catch up to

but in late game you're way more efficient than AIs

[bronze mango]

Of course the deciding factor is the tank design

[rich sand]

i do 10/8 expensive but it's good :D

[bronze mango]

If you have no step back ofcourse

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-hello-my-little-pony-gif-8820966

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[elder shuttle]

is this a good infantry division to invade china with in 1940

[bronze mango]

My eyes are bleeding

[craggy trail]

I still have a bunch of mastery stuff to do and I'm 21 years in

[elder shuttle]

how can i fix it

[bronze mango]

Might even be acceptable without the useless Military police

[elder shuttle]

wat a good template

[prisma saddle]

yea ofc

[prisma saddle]

🫡

[bronze mango]

9 infantry, anti air support company, artillery support company and engineer company, with at most one line artillery if you wish to include it

[tulip thorn]

600 factories and no pony power

[bronze mango]

It's super basic but extremely good

[rich sand]

mp useless as hell

[bronze mango]

Exactly

[elder shuttle]

is it a bit better

[rich sand]

maintenance company for inf template? idk what that company is good for because i never use it but i thought you only do it with tank divisions and mot/mechs?

[bronze mango]

This is indeed better yes, still doubtful of it's usability due to the line artillery and the cost that comes with it

[craggy trail]

They've been training for a while

[elder shuttle]

so only have one artilery in it

[elder shuttle]

im not sure icl

[tulip thorn]

The army must be ready

[bronze mango]

If you wish to include it yes although it can be a strain on your economy

[elder shuttle]

so no artilery only support

[bronze mango]

I personally never use it and it works just fine

[rich sand]

i would remove it and replace it with field hospital

[bronze mango]

Yeah

[elder shuttle]

alr thank u guys for ur help

[bronze mango]

And i do highly recommend AA support

[rich sand]

best support comp in the game

[elder shuttle]

im doung that now

[bronze mango]

With artillery support as a close second

[dusky burrow]

Like seriously ^

[rich sand]

i would place flame company as my 2nd

it's just that good for me

[bronze mango]

Meh I often forget that exists

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War nerfed how much mastery you gain by half

[rich sand]

try it it gives a lot of attacking buffs

i always use it in my armoured divisions

and also assault eng. company

[inner iron]

Flame tanks also give good terrain bonuses

They can be the most garboleum tin cans but it still gives the same bonus

Or just fill them with fuel drums for your tanks

Rinse and repeat with recon tanks

And you have tank divs that doesn't get instantly screwed by supply

[rich sand]

and dozer blades

i only give them fuel drums and dozer to make them as cheap as possible

[heavy vigil]

???

most useless module in the game

[heavy vigil]

dozer blades are OP tho

[inner iron]

It's not

Support tanks with fuel drums stacks fuel capacity for your actual tank divs

[heavy vigil]

yeah and its useless

and expensive

extra ammo storage my goat gives break

[dusky burrow]

Never used them once tbh

[heavy vigil]

helps win battle

[heavy vigil]

its like planning but defensive

[rich sand]

real, i put them in my defensive divisions so i can still attack using them lol

[craggy trail]

So interestingly, I'm getting 9.1 mastery from 6 full battalion groups of 50 combat width Armored cars compared to 6.9 mastery that I'm getting from 12 battalions of 8 tank / 8 mechanized with armored recon @tulip thorn

[dusky burrow]

Yeah I just tend to maximize break tbh

[dusky burrow]

50-width division whaaaaaa

or is thec ombat width reduced

[inner iron]

I mean breakthrough eventually has a ceiling

Switching over to mech already has me spoiled with breakthrough in my divs

[craggy trail]

Garrison division

[dusky burrow]

true

[rich sand]

we all have our own preferences, i like to give my flame tanks a little fuel cap just for the fun of it

[dusky burrow]

In any case i guess the fuel tanks might be useful if you're trying to capitulate Australia via land

[heavy vigil]

youll run out of fuel

[inner iron]

Or capturing supply hubs in the Soviet Union

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

even with tanks

australia is large

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, I learned that lesson hard

Sent 10 volunteers to Australia, was able to take the east coast, but getting to Darwin took paratroopers who still just barely made it

Perth was an even worse nightmare

By some miracle I was somehow able to do it nonetheless

[rich sand]

and the soviets

[rich sand]

yep

[dusky burrow]

Eh... the Western Soviet Union is pretty okay tbh

[tulip thorn]

oh damn really

[dusky burrow]

you don't really need to go much further than the Volga (because collabs)

[tulip thorn]

Is it because the game goes on longer?

[dusky burrow]

Perhaps

[craggy trail]

I'm not so sure

[rich sand]

i don't go farther than stalingrad

[craggy trail]

Minor nations are already trickier to play as it is

Along with the coal mechanics

[inner iron]

That's if you can create a collab

[tulip thorn]

How is coal in EaW anyway

[inner iron]

Democracies and non aligned can't

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Stalingrad is a problem

There's so little supply in the lower Volga

[winter compass]

hey, what is the best plane template? i am kinda new\

[tulip thorn]

Non aligned can

I've done it as monarchist italy and germany

And uk

[inner iron]

Oh I guess they eventually changed it

[craggy trail]

EaW has been very generous with coal, but you still tend to have to import coal with the excess civilian factories you have

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's the difficult part about communist Japan, you can't do collabs for a long while since you're democratic at first

[tulip thorn]

More generous than base game lol

like 8 total in the balkans

[dusky burrow]

I can't imagine Casey's face if they don't allow Japan to do collabs

[inner iron]

I just remembered having that problem years ago when I did porto brazil

And in some mods, non aligned had collabs scuffed for a long time

But it probably got settled over time

[heavy vigil]

wdym huh

what did i miss

i just wanna get the chi-ri in the tank videogame rn

[silent cypress]

hello

[prisma saddle]

how i make low resistence in lands that i occuped?

[craggy trail]

They should add that mechanic where it takes military factories to maintain your stockpile so you don't tend to have 1 million guns in lategame

[craggy trail]

Change your occupation laws

[inner iron]

That would break the AI lowkey

[dusky burrow]

These two designs are nice

[inner iron]

The AI stockpiles on an ungodly amount of equipment

[heavy vigil]

stockpile attrition

[craggy trail]

Low resistance?

[inner iron]

Mentally ill me rushing cannon 2's for the fat air attack and then downing up to 200 planes a day

[dusky burrow]

If you have naval targets you can do these two

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's grotesque

Looking at those planes makes me question life

[inner iron]

It works fairly well against AI because they don't build up airports

So they get oneshotted from the air attack alone

Against other players, doubtful

[dusky burrow]

True

[inner iron]

Plus I'm tired of strat bombers from the allies

Cannon 2 fighters counters them easily

[rich sand]

idk where that is i suck at geography and i don't read anything besides "skip tutorial"

[inner iron]

Stalingrad itself is at the Volga river

[rich sand]

ah, thanks

[dusky burrow]

It's the big river behind Moscow

[rich sand]

i struggle around the part of leningrad

supply wise

[dusky burrow]

Time for marines

[inner iron]

I just cas bomb my way to Leningrad

[dusky burrow]

Also true

[rich sand]

i never used marine as germany

they are good but i just don't want to

[dusky burrow]

What do you use to sealion?

[rich sand]

my regular offensive divisions

they work

[dusky burrow]

Fair, just invade behind Leningrad with those then

If the Finns won't take Leningrad from the north you can do it

[rich sand]

i don't struggle that much to take leningrad

i always sealion first then go to war against the soviets cuz it's easier that way

[dusky burrow]

Okay fair

[rich sand]

whenever i try to take out the soviets first it doesn't end up good lol

i always go for 30 width

[dusky burrow]

Are you using tanks

I could say making 9/0s for defense while having a few units of marines and mountaineers

huh

that's odd

what doctrines are you using

[rich sand]

supply lines usually go red when you're deep inside the ussr, minsk has supply hubs around it iirc

[dusky burrow]

i'd argue that you should use grand assault for the operations but it should be fine

[rich sand]

odessa has a port though? just capture all the rails and you'll be okay

[heavy vigil]

pov its this

thats pretty good actually you just need to grind more mastery

[dusky burrow]

fortunately no

[dusky burrow]

minsk is the hub

fortunately

Here's the thing, if they have CAS if they have tanks what's preventing them from pushing past Odesa

[rich sand]

how do you remember where the hubs are? i always go back and fourth with supply map mode just to see i'm making the right path

[digital vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/hervé-regnier-tiktok-charlesville-gif-6469733240628671030

[rich sand]

real

they might have bad template, that's one of my mistakes back then

i couldn't budge the frontline

because i have too much org but too low soft attack

[dusky burrow]

do you have a picture

[rich sand]

i haven't joined the server yet so i wasn't able to capture that memorable moment lol

i struggled for a good 10 runs until i watched a template guide

i didn't even realise templates existed

and tank designs

[left mortar]

anyone have a guide for the buddhist achievement?

[inner iron]

It's because the marshes and the winter cripples your supply efficiency

[buoyant wedge]

i love hoi4

ive spent 17 hours on this playthrough

[rich sand]

when i did realise i filled my template with full infantry battalions

[winter compass]

thanks

[inner iron]

Marines work for the terrain there I guess

I usually use mountaineers because they typically use less supply

And can be buffed for winter tiles if you're only obsessed with killing the soviets

[dusky burrow]

yeah snow rangers are a thing

[heavy vigil]

cannon 2 is best for advanced frame

[inner iron]

I'm aware

Cannon 2's are that late that I usually have advanced frames

[winter compass]

beatifull

[thick kettle]

yo uh

how do i get my fuel back ⛓️‍💥

[molten pasture]

No

[thick kettle]

well that's not helpful

[lapis prairie]

arent you in the my fly club discord?

[molten pasture]

Yes

The non-nantas in nantas

[molten pasture]

Well, without fuel there is no war to be won

[lapis prairie]

I keep going bankrupt after the last reset

i had like a 2 billion dollar airline \

[hasty linden]

13 mil total manpower with japan on limited conscription

[molten pasture]

I would have gone bankrupt long ago if airisair didn't keep feeding me Chinese people

[lapis prairie]

crazyt

[kind vale]

Play as chile

[lapis prairie]

I dont know where to rebuild my airline

[hasty linden]

nah

tf

[kind vale]

Its op

[hasty linden]

yes but its south america

smh

[paper echo]

play as sweden

you will certainly have a lot of manpower

[kind vale]

But it gets so much man power

[solemn bay]

Hungary is NOT a major

[paper echo]

is it a faction leader

[solemn bay]

They're not in a faction

[paper echo]

how tf are they major

they certainly dont have the factories

[solemn bay]

😭

[paper echo]

were they a major before they were defeated

[paper echo]

maybe you just defeated them and you havent unpaused the game yet

i dont have any other logical reason its a major

ig its just hoi being hoi

[solemn bay]

I think so. They had Czechs and Austria as their puppets to restore the Habsburgs

[solemn bay]

1000%

[supple summit]

Yo lads how good is having both Light tank and medium tank divisions

[patent flax]

Whats the minimum to have on Organization,Soft and Hard attacks and Breakthrough and Piercing

[kind vale]

40 org, 200 breakthrough

[patent flax]

thanks🙏

Can you show me what a typical light/heavy tank temp would look like?

I make like 3 tanks 4 cavalry/motorizes and 2 artillery

[kind vale]

Depends on if your in sp or mp

[patent flax]

i play both but sure can u show mp

[lapis prairie]

Whats a good tank div and design my tank divs do good in the start and fall apart in about 41

[kind vale]

Never use motorized in a tank division and dont use line arty

[patent flax]

wait whats line arty

im sorry im a pleb

[kind vale]

Its artillery that you put in a divisions like infantry

[pale stream]

might be
slighlty overkill

[patent flax]

oh like motorised artillery

[kind vale]

Yeah

[patent flax]

ahh thanks🙏

youre very helpful

I lost to Poland as Germany...

So looking up like 300 tutorials learning too many shit

[sudden thistle]

Jojo

Peak

[patent flax]

I usually dont watch anime but I feel in love with jojo

[kind vale]

This is what I ise

If have them id use assault engineer company and a medium flame tank support company

[patent flax]

Holy shit

[restive estuary]

is there any mod that has an instant/better naval invasion in the workshop rn???

[kind vale]

To get the cannon for it just go down the anti tank tech tree

[patent flax]

I feel like im gonna vomit

Too much information

[shy birch]

It bugs me that Flamethrower Tank takes no resources to research

Like not even some fuel?

[kind vale]

easy to research😂

[kind vale]

Eh not really you'll get use to it

Tanks are just for pushing tho

[shy birch]

Also where's the icon for coal???

[kind vale]

Green bar under the factories

[shy birch]

Ah they moved it

Coolio

[kind vale]

Ye

[fathom oyster]

It's nice to see people are enjoying hoi4 while I'm over here saving up for a gaming laptop

[kind vale]

How much is it

[fathom oyster]

Like the budget

[kind vale]

Yeah

[fathom oyster]

Like 500 or 700$

Because MSI is expensive

[patent flax]

Is this a good division for defending frontlines

[kind vale]

Ah alright, you could probably build a pc for 600$ that'll be better for gaming but 700$ aint bad for a laptop

[kind vale]

Remove the artillery and add 2 more infantry

Also slap anti air and artillery support companies on it

[fathom oyster]

I don't need a gaming PC

Just a gaming laptop so I can take anywhere I want

[kind vale]

Nice

[patent flax]

Other than tanks is there any other divisions good for advancing in frontlines

[fathom oyster]

So I'm saving up for 500 or 600 $ gaming laptop because gaming PC is expensive to build

[kind vale]

Space marines

But tanks are better

[dusk nova]

What are even space marines? Are they infantry with self-propelled guns or mix of marines and mountaineers at this point?

[kind vale]

9 infantry battalions 2 line artillery battalions and 1 or 2 medium sp anti air

[viscid swift]

1940 W or L?

[patent flax]

Is this too much?

[ivory hull]

is this for sp?

[kind vale]

Remove the line anti air

And make it a support company

Then ye

Also why light tanks?

[patent flax]

thanks🙏

[kind vale]

Just make interwar medium tanks

[ivory hull]

add heavy machine guns in the tank design and use howitzers

[patent flax]

okay

[kind vale]

Fire pfp

[icy crescent]

The Anti Air slows down your entire division.
Either add them as support company or make them motorized to keep the speed.
And don't be afraid to use more support companies.
Be it artillery, logistics, engineers, anything.

[ivory hull]

thx bro

[kind vale]

Nah they kill org

[kind vale]

Np

[patent flax]

thanks im new and have under 50 hours so just testing and fooling around

[icy crescent]

It's fine. c:

Just try to stay close to 40 organisation, when using tanky divisions.
Being too much below is rather bad.

[patent flax]

ALSO

I have a weird question

If my General can hold 24 divisions how much division should be like tank divs how many should be infantry

[kind vale]

24 divisions ia how many units you have, germany starts with 30, battalions are what make them up for offense keep it around 30-36

[icy crescent]

I prefer to keep my tanks under an own general.
Just because the limit is 24, it does not mean, that you have to fill it.
You can have 20 infantry divisions on an infantry general and 4 tank divisions on the tank general for example.

Makes it easier to find the tanks.

[kind vale]

Plus that general will get experience for tanks

[patent flax]

I make an general have the maximum and just put it on a certain frontline and call it a day lmfao

[icy crescent]

There are no general numbers what your compesition should be.
Usually you want infantry to hold the line and some more aggressive divisions to force pushes and encirclements.
Latter are often tanks or other sort of high damage units.

[kind vale]

If I send 2 army leaders to the soviet union and do my own civil war will I get them back after the soviet Civil war?

[patent flax]

It all makes sense now

atleast the fighting bit

[ivory hull]

do you get them back after the soviet civil war normally?

[kind vale]

I got no clue i dont pay attention

[ivory hull]

i think the russians just take them

its not worth it tho

you dont even get the resource right

[kind vale]

You dont?

[ivory hull]

if azerbaijan rises up

nope

[kind vale]

Oof

[lapis prairie]

Whats a good tank div and design my tank divs do good in the start and fall apart in about 41

[simple citrus]

ended the suffering of the sick man of europe

[ivory hull]

replace the motorized with cav and add two more

[kind vale]

Switch the motorized for cavalry

[ivory hull]

and for the tank

use a howitzer

for main gun

[lapis prairie]

I do once i take france and poland

[ivory hull]

do it now

[kind vale]

And swap the engine for a gasoline pne

[ivory hull]

heavy machine gun has no stats

at least take close support gun

[ivory hull]

no byzantium?

[lapis prairie]

Wont that tank my reliability?

[ivory hull]

doesnt matter

[kind vale]

Reliability dont matter

[simple citrus]

not yet

[ivory hull]

is it kr?

[simple citrus]

i just finished off ottomans

[simple citrus]

kx

[lapis prairie]

When i go to africa it does

[ivory hull]

then why havent you done it yet?

bro its 1943

[ivory hull]

you dont

you sealion in 1940

[kind vale]

No thats supply

[simple citrus]

i was afraid of ottomans

[simple citrus]

sealion who

[hidden gull]

Paratrooper template for sea lion?

[ivory hull]

go in when egypt does

[sudden thistle]

Don’t put tanks in Africa

[simple citrus]

i'm in entente

[ivory hull]

maybe the UK?

[sudden thistle]

If it’s above 10-20% it’s fine

[ivory hull]

naval invade

[lapis prairie]

I dont have the navy for that

in 40\

[simple citrus]

i had 14 divisions 9 of which were default

[hidden gull]

I find it impossible in ncns

[ivory hull]

train it, put up a lot of air, put up the navy, call in italy

[simple citrus]

i got 600+ ships

uhhh

[ivory hull]

i did it

[kind vale]

Its not i do it easily

[ivory hull]

you just have to have a good amount of cas

or naval bombers

[kind vale]

Yeah

[simple citrus]

naur

i got more lands this way

[kind vale]

Last time I did it I was making alot of cruisers

[ivory hull]

but you would have had the ottomans in 38

[ivory hull]

you dont have to build any ships

[lapis prairie]

But i dont have any navy bombers by that time

[ivory hull]

use cas

use the meta design

[kind vale]

Hey i wanted a navy

[lapis prairie]

whats the meta rn

[ivory hull]

get the UK one

[simple citrus]

i would've get my ass kicked with a fleet of 40 ships and 14 divs

[ivory hull]

pinned in ask for help channel

[kind vale]

Thays no fun😔

[ivory hull]

did you build ships?

[simple citrus]

shmol cheap submarines

[ivory hull]

oh

its still easy

[simple citrus]

no wait

[ivory hull]

you can have like at least 18w

[simple citrus]

i had 40

[ivory hull]

a full army

[lapis prairie]

alr

[ivory hull]

i had 700 cas over the channel

[simple citrus]

and had like 300 after the second weltkrieg

[kind vale]

Which small plane? Basic or improved

[ivory hull]

mostly improved

[dusky burrow]

seeing as this is kaiserredux the amount of resistance must be insane

[grizzled yarrow]

democratic germany was pretty aight

[kind vale]

Ah

[kind vale]

Im doing it rn in non historical

[simple citrus]

imagine garrisoning it as greece

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[ivory hull]

if you go socialist byzantium you can core it

just lose some stability

[simple citrus]

i didn't just fight a civil war against socialists and did my best to get the referendum to restore monarchy
to go socialist

[ivory hull]

if you go the non-socialist path you get very ugly puppets and no cores btw

[simple citrus]

much better

[ivory hull]

you go socialist at the end

where the tree splits

can recommend the socialist one

cause the puppets on the other one are very old

[grizzled yarrow]

does the cursed democratic germany with historical focuses still work?

[dusky burrow]

assault engineers, flame tanks, hospitals, rangers / light tank recon, and then a flex spot are typical support companies

most often the latter is AA or logistics

[kind vale]

What cursed democratic germany

[dusky burrow]

also you have way too little healht

[grizzled yarrow]

where u declare on frances puppet get cap and turned democratic but u still have historical focuses

[kind vale]

Ohhhh

[grizzled yarrow]

im lowk doing anything but playing the historical path

[simple citrus]

like social-democratic or right out socialist

[grizzled yarrow]

i just cant get across the english channel sigh

[ivory hull]

100% radical socialist

[simple citrus]

ew

no

[dusky burrow]

yeah i think so

[ivory hull]

you still have your king tho

[simple citrus]

whats the point bruh

radical socialism

[ivory hull]

here you can see that if you dont wait you can get the ottomans a lot earlier

[simple citrus]

what way is this

path*

[ivory hull]

i dont think i took the focus at that time

[simple citrus]

oh

uh

[ivory hull]

but i went socialist afterwards

[simple citrus]

can i see how things look

when i go soc

[grizzled yarrow]

yup it still works

[simple citrus]

how "moderate leftist" ends up being radical socialism?

[ivory hull]

wdym exactly?

[ivory hull]

you become socialist?

[simple citrus]

not yet

[ivory hull]

i dont understand

[grizzled yarrow]

still works

[kind vale]

Does the japan ai only know how to the historical path in non hist?

[grizzled yarrow]

doing lit ANYTHING but choosing to play historical path

[simple citrus]

i just started the purple phoenix rises focus

[ivory hull]

ohh

you have an event in the relieve pressure focus

look in the path guide

to click the correct option

or just save before

[kind vale]

Did they make danzig free?

[fierce mist]

so what is the best mods out there for hoi4 that makes it more fun?

[kind vale]

Player led peace conferences

[fierce mist]

more like the fire rises etc

[icy crescent]

I like Demand It.
If you really just want one state of someone, you can demand it.
And Formable Nations Mod. Gives you more extra options.

Because getting more cores makes us happy.

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux

[kind vale]

So i can bully poland even more?

[icy crescent]

Every nation can bully anybody more, yeah.

[umbral agate]

is this cooked, late 1943, abt to take moscow but allies are in the south

[kind vale]

Whyd you ally italy?

[umbral agate]

idk

[icy crescent]

For Historical Purposes, I guess.

[umbral agate]

either way they would have been at war with the allies

[umbral agate]

yes

[kind vale]

I would've just built forts down by italy and Vichy france with infantry there till the soviets are gone

[umbral agate]

i didnt have the man power

[fringe shell]

im playing kaiserredux is there a really fun to play nation?

[umbral agate]

soviets have no divs

im abt to take moscow

they sent like 120 into a bulgarian pocket they had

[fringe shell]

chile is a mayor good luck invading south america

[umbral agate]

yes

i know

i am very annoyed

[kind vale]

Hurry and cap the soviets then have your army on strategic redeployment and get them to the south

[umbral agate]

would be faster to train a whole er army icl

i didnt have time for colabs

ily did 1

[kind vale]

Not really they move pretty fast on strategic redeployment

[simple citrus]

f4ck nikos ploumpidis dis mf took 10% of my stability with one single event

i'm not going socialist

[umbral agate]

i do have full green air tho

but my fuel is not the best

[tired citrus]

from a RP and historical perspective, which communist Chinese faction makes the most sense for "Reforming the Republic" and going democratic?

[ivory hull]

then zero cores

[ivory hull]

xi'ian

[simple citrus]

cored anatolia already

[ivory hull]

thats the only thing you will

[fringe shell]

im looking at this and why tf there is no hungary

[kind vale]

Austria was so kind to become part of germany

[umbral agate]

they didnt want to join me

so i made them

[tired citrus]

I don't see that in the Dev diary

[fringe shell]

makes sense

[ivory hull]

oh its called northeastern army

[umbral agate]

i just need oil

for autaky

[simple citrus]

so just for the sake of cores on some wastelands with nothing but oil access to which i already have since i got venezuela puppet which supplies me with oil well enough
i gotta swallow up everything socialists did to greece both irl and in my game
ahaa noted

[ivory hull]

the communist saw the leader as a kinda socialist

[ivory hull]

bro its about manpower

you can core all of italy

[simple citrus]

why would i need manpower

it's 1943 already

[ivory hull]

because you wont have any as greece

[ivory hull]

then form those puppets that are like 4 years old

[tired citrus]

I mostly meant going down the Communist Chinese focus tree >.>

[simple citrus]

if i did allat

[ivory hull]

play the northeastern army

[simple citrus]

i'd like

[ivory hull]

you couldve had allat in 1940 btw

[simple citrus]

yeah

without a navy

my ass is definetely getting naval invaded

[ivory hull]

saying as if it would have a use

[ivory hull]

by who?

the ottomans?

[simple citrus]

ottomans i dunno

[ivory hull]

just get them asap

[simple citrus]

yes 14 divisions 9 of which consist of 9 inf and 1 sup art

[ivory hull]

bro

[simple citrus]

i am NOT surviving allat

[ivory hull]

i had like 16

of them

and killed the ottomans

its not even hard when egypt is going in too

[simple citrus]

i tried playing not on civillian once

i failed literally as german military junta

[ivory hull]

you arent playing on regular?

[simple citrus]

i'm terrified

[ivory hull]

bro

[simple citrus]

i'll just see i'm not capable of shit

and just wiil ragequit

[ivory hull]

on civilian you can easily

kill the ottmans in 37

[umbral agate]

will switzerland join the allies

[ivory hull]

how many hours do you have?

[simple citrus]

uh

like 370 atp

[ivory hull]

if you declare yes

[dusky burrow]

guy allied italy and then did not defend it

[simple citrus]

still afraid

[umbral agate]

i did

[ivory hull]

time to switch to regular bud

[umbral agate]

they had

90 divisions in italy

and all my allies combined couldnt kill greece]

[simple citrus]

i can't even make good templates bruh my divisions look like this

[ivory hull]

too many support companies

only support arty and engineers

20 of them

in 1938

and the ottmans are gone

assault infantry

and grand assault

on doctrine

[dusky burrow]

what path is this

[simple citrus]

i switched to this template right before declaring on ottomans

[ivory hull]

maybe desperate defense if the manpower is low

[simple citrus]

rhomaion empire in kaiserredux

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[ivory hull]

*byzantium

[dusky burrow]

But yeah no need for engineers and no need for cavalry recon

[ivory hull]

engineers are valid

but aa is too expensive

[dusky burrow]

i guess with the number of bulgarian forts

[ivory hull]

the ottomans dont have air

[dusky burrow]

but not really

[dusky burrow]

engineers are the most expensive of all of them

[ivory hull]

he plays on civilian

shouldnt be too much

[dusky burrow]

kaiserredux civilian adjusts costs?

[lapis prairie]

GOOD?

caps

[ivory hull]

no but you produce more

[dusky burrow]

oh i see

[dusky burrow]

you don't have a howitzer or something?

[ivory hull]

its like 20% efficiency cap or smth

[lapis prairie]

I dont have the tungsten

its 38\

[dusky burrow]

also go with henschel if you can

[ivory hull]

he is

[lapis prairie]

i only use henschel

[dusky burrow]

ah right

they seem to have replaced the icon

i keep thinking i'm getting scammed

[lapis prairie]

could be my mods

idk

[ivory hull]

henschel is weaker after the update

[dusky burrow]

speaking of which what are your doctrines

Yeah, by a certain amount

I'm still not going to use medium tank designer 🤮

[ivory hull]

its like 10% soft attack instead of like 25%

[lapis prairie]

good?

I will have 6 tank divs for 39

[simple citrus]

used gbp on 4th balkan war switched to uh
sfp after 4bw

[dusky burrow]

wait why

that resets all of your subdoctrines

[simple citrus]

didn't think of it as a fitting doctrine

[dusky burrow]

I know you're going to fight the major powers, and you might need recovery rate in that case

but oof

[simple citrus]

i didn't plan to have a static war in edirne

[jovial sigil]

no use moterised instead of cavalry

[simple citrus]

i fought ottomans like once is kaiserreich as bulgaria

when i made uh

[ivory hull]

3 more cav and one more tank and take out recon

[simple citrus]

yugoslavia

[ivory hull]

motorized isnt worth it

[lapis prairie]

alr

[dusky burrow]

what are your subdoctrines btw

[jovial sigil]

ima need to cheak some numbers on that 1

[simple citrus]

is and s&a

[ivory hull]

its like 60 more breakthrough for like 10 extra mils on trucks

[fading elk]

So does using console commands to annex a nation while fighting a war with that nation just end the war immediately

[dusky burrow]

in either case in the case of a static war in edirne you just don't benefit from superior fi... wait what?

[fading elk]

I assume it works fine if their allied to someone

[dusky burrow]

are you somehow stuck with the pre-1.17 doctrine system?

[simple citrus]

no no i was tryna say uh

i like had some kinda blitzkrieg

where i like take dardanelles and spread to the mainland turkey

while my other forces

attack a province in edirne

then i end up with a huge encirclement

close it up

take constantinople with not much resistance

[dusky burrow]

like in the new doctrine system superior firepower gives basically no offensive buffs

but in the old one it did

[lethal ether]

whats the best navy cheese rn

[dusky burrow]

empty carriers still work

[simple citrus]

well uhh i might know why

[dusky burrow]

maybe make them escort carriers

[simple citrus]

but i cant tell the reason here

coz

[lethal ether]

something that cripples the enemy navy

[simple citrus]

rules

[dusky burrow]

i mean fair

[dusky burrow]

naval bombers

[lethal ether]

ok

[dusky burrow]

idk why I didn't put range mio here you should put range mio

[lethal ether]

alright tgx

thx

[slim nexus]

Ay yo MacArthur the king

[dusky burrow]

also don't forget to put up fighters in the regions where your naval bombers are so that you get air detection

[dusky burrow]

personal union between the US, the Philippines, and Japan when

[lethal ether]

should i use just the bombers

im guessing not

shoudl i use ships too

or something

[simple citrus]

yayayay kingdom of america mentioned

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you probably do have some ships

like these

[lethal ether]

wth since when did conversion research change

[bright arrow]

If i put naval bombers with guns will they also act as fighters?

[lethal ether]

ill copy it :3

[lapis prairie]

Is this a decent screen design

[bright arrow]

Do you want to kill subs?

Is yes then no

Anything else they just serve as shields so afaic they can have literally nothing in them

[stone mango]

is it smart to declare on them if im at war with UK USA and USSR

[simple citrus]

@ivory hull so

[ivory hull]

ok save the game

but it should be the bottom option

im not sure

[solemn bay]

Should i go for more range or speed for aircraft carriers?

[simple citrus]

my game just crashed

[ivory hull]

happens in kx

[stone mango]

what mod is that and what happend to europe

[ivory hull]

its kaiserredux

[tribal frost]

who wants to play a multiplayer game no mods join MP 1

[simple citrus]

this flag ugly af

[ivory hull]

lol

[molten forge]

the moment i didnt play european the german reich lost the civil war

[hushed vortex]

can some1 host

[paper echo]

chat do yall use line artillery with the new dlc

[simple citrus]

i don't enjoy this game no more

it took me 370 hours to realize that

[copper patio]

I notice, events of the "old" Japan and China isn't updated. By example, Japan do the communism path (no NCNS), and by consequence... they have always a part in Korea ^^'.

[simple citrus]

static ass warfare

[grizzled zenith]

Yay I united China as Sikkim

[ancient marsh]

Did the ai get fixed

From going althist every game

And being very passive

[dense bronze]

World's Proleteriat has been liberated!
Seriously recommending the "Fight for the Fatherland" mod

[round jetty]

ok this new naval system might actually be completely broken

i have over 20 capitals in the english channel and ive got 0 naval dominance

[dense bronze]

everything about this update is broken, coal, naval, invasions

[round jetty]

even the focus trees 😭

[dense bronze]

Like seriously I don't get it, people were asking for paradox to make Navy easier to use and less confusing, not more 😭

[round jetty]

honestly i find it more simple

the issue is that it doesnt work

[rigid robin]

anyone wanna play multiplayer would be my 1 game online

[zenith charm]

what is this peak i am observiing

[round jetty]

#historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer

[meager valley]

They must have more ships

[round jetty]

they literally have nothing in the seazone

i cooked their fleet

also i would still have more than 0

[meager valley]

And your ships are patrolling?

[round jetty]

yes

ive tried putting my main fleet on strike force and patrol, nothing works

[molten forge]

peru took my ass because i barely started doing airforce