hoi4-general

[tepid nova]

Bro

So many issues here

[sudden thistle]

No

[tepid nova]

No frontline on the west, no air in the sky, crazy weird offensive lines

[split fulcrum]

no air in the sky?

[sudden thistle]

Look up

[tepid nova]

The airfields seem empty to me

[ocean mirage]

casualties??

[manic iris]

hey guys, the game is right now on sale for 8 bucks, to be fair i just saw the game randomly and the mechanics and war strategies look SO fun, could i get some opinions or stuff i should kow abt the game

[opal citrus]

im at like 2fps btw

[shrewd hill]

assuming bro is playing sp, I don't think we can be too harsh

[tepid nova]

hoi4 try not to run like shit

[shrewd hill]

you can seriously just draw battleplans with no air against poland and win as Germany

[tepid nova]

I will be harsh

its pain to my eyes

[ocean mirage]

💔😭😭😭😭😭😭

[shrewd hill]

efficient? no but it gets the job done and all that mental energy can go to France

[tepid nova]

Afghanistan?

[heavy vigil]

you need like a focused build

[split fulcrum]

anti soviet pact

[heavy vigil]

the issue with new players is no focus no build

[split fulcrum]

i clicked the wrong button once

[manic iris]

wwhat do yall think is 8 bucks a good deal? and is there stuff i should know abt the game

[grand wolf]

How did japan best china in my game?

[tepid nova]

Heres a tip, dont use trucks
They suck
And keep you're tanks in sepereate generals/armies, so you can use them to attack weak spots

Spare the trucks for logistics

[heavy vigil]

will take a lot of time to learn

[shrewd hill]

incorrect

make tank only armies

as in

0 infantry

[split fulcrum]

im getting held off by 5 regiments in warsaw

[tepid nova]

HE HAS NO TANKS 😭

[shrewd hill]

tank only

can someone make a x10 mod please?

[heavy vigil]

theres 1 starting light tank div in the screenshot

[shrewd hill]

I feel like severe lag by 1939

[tepid nova]

Yea dont fight it anymore, stabalize the front
Retreat to a river if you need, but behind it, not infront
River provides defense

[strange idol]

Year of our lord 2025, and Japan will still never escape 70 day focuses

[split fulcrum]

my bad its 3 regiments

[manic iris]

is it fun? i REALLY love army/strategy games,

[heavy vigil]

just play until the 21st century

[manic iris]

also can i create the french empire

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova isn't it beautiful 😁

[tepid nova]

Issue is he has no equipment, that tank is only good because it hasnt seen combat, but the others are starving

[shrewd hill]

look at those BEAUTIFUL red and orange boxes

[tepid nova]

Im throwing up

[ocean mirage]

why is there the whole german population on upper warsaw

[shrewd hill]

shoutout to the East African division there

[split fulcrum]

fair

[shrewd hill]

good for you Italy

[heavy vigil]

i think its fun

[ocean mirage]

HAHAHAH

[tepid nova]

Just
Pull out you're tanks and stop all attacks, and then spearhead the tanks from the south where there isnt a river

[split fulcrum]

i got a better strat

[tepid nova]

Put the tanks into their own army

[burnt cape]

Anyone that can kinda teach me some basics? I know some really basic things but need some tips ect. Doesnt need to be now. Just add me

[tepid nova]

NO PLEASE

[split fulcrum]

reload back to jan 1938

[tepid nova]

NO

[shrewd hill]

in 1920 some Ethiopian child was born, little did he know he would be fighting in Spaces' great offensive against Warsaw

[grand wolf]

21.30 production cost for a medium tank

[split fulcrum]

hes fighting the soviets

italy refused my call

[tepid nova]

WHAT are you making?

[ocean mirage]

please do the molotov ribbentrop pact for the love of god

[shrewd hill]

Space can you please stream this so Sloth can watch

[split fulcrum]

into the polish war

[shrewd hill]

I want Sloth to watch your brilliant logistics work

[grand wolf]

Me?

[ocean mirage]

We all want to watch

[opal nymph]

It is fun when you get the hang of it

[tepid nova]

Unless its like a 1943 medium tank, Idk how you got the price that high up

[tepid nova]

I cant

[manic iris]

do you think 8 bucks is worth it?

[shrewd hill]

We stand on the shoulders of giants (Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, Napoleon, Space)

[grand wolf]

Cast armor

[split fulcrum]

do you think losing half your army against 5 divisions in warsaw is worth it? (i am going insane)

[grand wolf]

Its 14.20 without cast armor

[inner iron]

Speaking of production cost

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[shrewd hill]

8 bucks is the biggest steal you'll ever get for this game

[tepid nova]

Wait I always thought that was useless? New strat? 🤔

[shrewd hill]

rookie numbers

you should see what I do to land cruisers

[ocean mirage]

a titan doesnt meddle in the business of giants.

[shrewd hill]

Space would have smashed Napoleon at Austerlitz

[grand wolf]

Im playing as the ussr and wanted to try it put, its 18.8 now since I replaced wet ammo with easy maintenance

[split fulcrum]

a master of starvation

[ocean mirage]

when i want to eat but my general is space

[split fulcrum]

oh

the save is 1939 not 1938

[shrewd hill]

you should've seen my brilliant offensives as Communist China into Japanese held Siberia

[heavy vigil]

yeah probably

[shrewd hill]

red boxes and exclams everywhere

[heavy vigil]

i bought it for more but i also knew about hoi for years

[tepid nova]

60% reliability

[shrewd hill]

120 mountaineer divisions, big field offensive arrow, aggressive army

stuff of dreams

[ocean mirage]

just do the pact bro please

[manic iris]

yes i love that

[split fulcrum]

can i cancel focuses

[opal nymph]

Molotov Ribbentrop is completely optional

[ocean mirage]

space is drooling reading this btw

[ocean mirage]

what happened

[split fulcrum]

no aerial superiority

[manic iris]

ill see if ill get it it just randomly popped up today and i looked so fun

[split fulcrum]

dude just imagine

[ocean mirage]

you didnt watch his games bro

[manic iris]

is it simular to conflict of nations WW3? if anyone knows that game

[opal nymph]

When has the USSR ever justified

[shrewd hill]

just an fyi you will probably have to pay more since a lot of the content of the game is locked behind certain DLCs

but you can just get a subscription per month for all the DLCs

[ocean mirage]

no he cant push poland

[shrewd hill]

or

[manic iris]

are u kidding me

[split fulcrum]

@opal nymph

[shrewd hill]

just use mods

[shrewd hill]

whatever this is, it's a thousand times better

Space can I 1v1 you

[opal nymph]

Oh, bro doesn't know how to use frontlines

[shrewd hill]

I am equally competent at HOI4

I will be a stoppable force and you can be a movable object

[ocean mirage]

please please please let me watch it

[manic iris]

is the game still fun/ playable whithout those?

[split fulcrum]

dude

[opal nymph]

Then use your field marshal to make a frontline

[split fulcrum]

i do have field marshals

[shrewd hill]

yes

but, for example, navies will look a lot more different without Man the Guns than it would with Man the Guns

[shrewd hill]

are you using them as generals 😭

[opal nymph]

Man the Guns is integrated

[ocean mirage]

oh my god i just noticed why is the red offensive pushing towards germany😭😭😭😭😭

[shrewd hill]

ah, there I go spreading fake news

[split fulcrum]

isnt that the same?

[opal nymph]

Then make a frontline with them

You have like 0 frontlines aside in a tiny area

[shrewd hill]

oh no no no no

[split fulcrum]

ohh field marshal

general of genearls

[opal nymph]

Field marshals are generals for your generals

[tepid nova]

dear santa, all I want this year, Is for paradox to allow making frontlines across multiple countries

[manic iris]

dont tell me like whithout DLCS there isnt tanks and stuff

[opal nymph]

Use the garrison order and make it cover borders

[manic iris]

do DLC like heavily restrict the game?

[opal nymph]

Or you simply wait until you are at war with everyone

[shrewd hill]

nah, there are tanks without DLCs

[opal nymph]

There are tanks

[shrewd hill]

the difference is in the way you can design and use tanks with or without DLCs

[split fulcrum]

i dunno, but they aint restricting me losing to poland!!!

[opal nymph]

Just not customizable tanks

[tepid nova]

Its not the same 😔

[inner iron]

That's very good compared to what I usually produce

[split fulcrum]

actually i dont have dlcs

[tepid nova]

I always do 85%+

[manic iris]

by "use" what do you mean

[shrewd hill]

is the meta for France still heavy TDs

[grand wolf]

The uk is not very smart

[shrewd hill]

with 5% reliability

[opal nymph]

Space, did you use your air force

[ocean mirage]

the 20% reliability petroleum electric engine fueled heavy tank looking at this message agrees

[inner iron]

I always use maintenance companies with my tanks anyway plus your division counts average equipment reliability not the tank reliability

[shrewd hill]

just design, I should say

[tepid nova]

Good thing I do tank only divisions 👅

[manic iris]

so DLCS mostly like act in the looks?

do they restrict what you do or where

[opal nymph]

DLCs give more game features

[inner iron]

The org goes crazy

[tepid nova]

Org is for loosers

[manic iris]

are they like important features or?

[opal nymph]

And often result in countries getting kneecapped initially but getting buffs for later

[opal nymph]

Important usually

No Step Back and By Blood Alone are your designer DLCs

[inner iron]

Ironically I use those engines on light tanks

[opal nymph]

They allow you to customize equipment

[inner iron]

Breakthrough goes hard

[opal nymph]

Arms Against Tyranny allows you to use very useful designers and the international market

[inner iron]

Especially having high breakthrough recon and flame tanks in your inf

[ocean mirage]

yea i guess when u produce 60 tanks a day u dont really care about tank reliability

[opal nymph]

La Resistance gives you espionage and intel system

The other DLCs are quite optional

[manic iris]

thats basicly restricting the game to nothing

[opal nymph]

No

Base game is quite playable

[manic iris]

like what how is the market and intel system behind a paywall

[inner iron]

Reliability becomes a problem with battleplanning and fighting shit terrain, I usually keep my tanks in plains

[heavy vigil]

sf doctrine...

so strong...

[manic iris]

dont you need the internacional market to survive?

[heavy vigil]

no

but the doctrines are very useful

[opal nymph]

No one uses the market
Intel system is useful, but there is a base game one

[tepid nova]

This is so cute

[ocean mirage]

wait until about the space frontline method

[manic iris]

would i still enjoy playing whithout DLCS

[opal nymph]

Yeah

[vivid salmon]

they should split up the territory of the uk in yemen into protectorates because that’s historical and cool

[inner iron]

I use the market a shittton

[manic iris]

are mods a good replacement for them

[opal nymph]

I sometimes turn off DLC for the no DLC experience and it is not bad

[opal nymph]

Eh, sure?

[inner iron]

What's the point of wasting my ic on guns when I can keep buying them

[manic iris]

BTW does the game focus more on strategy or more on just spamming troops and attacking randomly

[opal nymph]

You usually want up to date guns with more stats

[fringe shell]

is there alternative of this mod which works

[inner iron]

My up to date guns go to sf's and tanks, frontline inf can have all the shitters

[opal nymph]

Strategy so you can eventually get to a point where you can roll over everyone

[manic iris]

the bundle with every DLC and game is 100 euro, which is way diffrent from my 8 euro budget

[manic iris]

thats good

[inner iron]

Plus up to date guns don't shoot down planes

[grand wolf]

Why is the uk inviting me to the allies

[opal nymph]

Up to date guns allow frontline inf to battleplan to a degree

[manic iris]

does the game have like anti air and stuff?? artilery

[vivid salmon]

also it’s funny to have british protectorates that were forgotten before egypt in base game

[manic iris]

whats up to date guns

[opal nymph]

There is AA, Arty, and AT

[opal nymph]

It is 1939 and you own 1939 guns

[inner iron]

That only negates bombing to a certain degree but doesn't wipe their airforce

[opal nymph]

And not using 1936 guns

[split fulcrum]

ah yes

[manic iris]

does the game advance like gradualy using higher tech stuff or only in 1936

[split fulcrum]

just like timetravel

[shrewd hill]

Guys I think Bitt3rsteel and Tommy need to step aside

[ocean mirage]

wait until u hear about the cool 1 infantry 30 anti tank divisions

[shrewd hill]

the real HOI4 king is Space

[manic iris]

wait holt shit can i be the turkish empire

[opal nymph]

It goes from pre war to 1952 for planes

[shrewd hill]

you can, I had one last game that ruled all of the Middle East

[opal nymph]

Battle for the Bosporous gives 0 game features

[manic iris]

so no F22 raptor :<

[ocean mirage]

yes u can form turan be turkish empire or do ottoman

[heavy vigil]

mmm gun

[inner iron]

Me as China using basic rifles in 1940 and pushing because my entire army has lvl 5 veterancy

[heavy vigil]

i love gun

[opal nymph]

You can rename a plane to it

[manic iris]

can i also stick 2 jets to it

and missles

[ocean mirage]

Wait till that washed grandpa sees the new meta that space came up with

[tepid nova]

Bro 💔

[shrewd hill]

me as China force deploying at 10% training level with a -120k gun deficit

[ocean mirage]

his technocracy will know fear

[manic iris]

wait u also design jets??

[opal nymph]

The only missiles in the game are anti ship missiles for planes

[ocean mirage]

withthe dlc

[opal nymph]

There are jets, yes

[manic iris]

thats fun af

[opal nymph]

No?

Jets are base game

[ocean mirage]

he said design no?

[shrewd hill]

Jets are base game

[ocean mirage]

not produce

[shrewd hill]

(millenium dawn base game)

[ocean mirage]

oh yea

[manic iris]

oh so i cant design them

[opal nymph]

Jet engines are base game, im quite certain of it

[shrewd hill]

they are

I have played too much HOI4 that's gone into the 50s to not know that sadly

[opal nymph]

People are so used to DLC, they forget base game features

[manic iris]

😭

[opal nymph]

I think you need to unlock jets to get the modern* air frames

[split fulcrum]

ohh thats why i picked the other option

[shrewd hill]

guys I'm sorry I have to go to bed, instead of fun HOI4 achievement hunting I need to study chess tomorrow 😔

[opal nymph]

(Modern for their time)

[manic iris]

i have a feeling im gonna waste my money on a unplayable game whithout DLC

[split fulcrum]

well i guess i will have to delay it until after the soviets war finland

[opal nymph]

It is quite playable

Better than it has in years

[manic iris]

is it ** FUN**

[shrewd hill]

you should ask the Soviet soldiers shooting at you why Molotov doesn't want a non-aggression pact

[opal nymph]

Yeah

You got all your major countries historical paths

Some have basic alt hist

[manic iris]

what are the like some really important stuff the DLCS have that base doesent

[opal nymph]

You have generic focus trees on some nations, but those trees are powerful when you know what you are doing

[manic iris]

i have to follow a story?

i cant attack whoever i want?

[opal nymph]

Designers (2 DLC)
Intel Agency (1 DLC)
MIOs (1 DLC)

[opal nymph]

There is a justify war goals button to do whatever you eant

[manic iris]

MIO?

[opal nymph]

But you want to go down focus trees usually

[opal nymph]

Military Industrial Organizations. Upgraded industry designers

[manic iris]

what does that do

[opal nymph]

So you can customize them rather than get some flat stats

Base game, they give you some stats

With DLC, they give you some stats, but can be customized to a degree

[manic iris]

hm,

[split fulcrum]

@opal nymph guess what

i got a field marshal

[manic iris]

i mean i dont think im missing out tooo much

[opal nymph]

You arent

You are still missing out on some features, but base game is very playable

[opal nymph]

Did you make a frontline with them?

[manic iris]

what do these allied armour axis armour stuff? design?

[opal nymph]

They are texture packs

[shrewd hill]

which of these seems the least cancerous to do

[opal nymph]

Completely optional, they do nothing gameplay wise

[inner iron]

Md jet fighters be like

[split fulcrum]

@opal nymph please help me make a good strategy

[shrewd hill]

@tepid nova

[opal nymph]

The Juannines

[opal nymph]

You never made a field marshal frontline

[shrewd hill]

HE'S GOT AIR IN THE GAME

WOOOOOOOOOO

[manic iris]

wait im confused, with the design i can make my own tanks and stuff, whithout the DLC, do i still get the normal IRL tanks? or is there just a basic design for a tank everyone uses

[manic iris]

this looks so fun

is the game purely a map game? do u participate in battles or do the troops do it for you

[viscid stirrup]

european nations should pay the countries they colonized trillions in reimbursment, as well as putting their leaders on trial for the crimes they have commited. millions have been killed in the righteous struggle for liberation in the various independance struggles of colonized nations, and the lands have been exploited and plundered

[manic iris]

also is there multi or single player

[tepid nova]

Put all you're generals into a field marshal, so you avoid overstretched/cluttered front lines
With the field marshal, make 1 clean one
POland is easy to beat, so just draw an offensive line all the way over west and behin in
Further, dont throw every airplane you have, deploy limited but strong air battalions so you have ample reserves to reinforce downed planes
And keep tanks in their own armies/generals, dont incorporate them into the main infantry armies

[opal nymph]

Without DLC you research tanks and get some tanks you can mess with the stats a little

With DLC, you can fully customize tanks

Same applies with planes

[inner iron]

Haiti being left on hold whenever they ask the french for compensation

[opal nymph]

It is purely a map game

You arent directly fighting

You give orders for troops to fight

[manic iris]

theres horses?

[opal nymph]

Cavalry

[vivid salmon]

replace african nations with european nations and you just got the treaty of versersies

[manic iris]

until what year you said planes and tanks continue? do i get to see modern equipment or do we just fight in propeller planes

[inner iron]

German steppe riders

[manic iris]

there was calvalry in ww1?

[opal nymph]

The game is set between 1936 and 1948

If that helps

[barren island]

never knew AI could break in this game, spanish civil war lasted till 1941

[opal nymph]

Cavalry was used in WW2

[manic iris]

oh damn

[barren island]

had to reset the game

[opal nymph]

Horses were used throughout WW2 when dedicated cavalry divisions became obsolete

[manic iris]

is the game multiplayer or singleplayer btw?

[inner iron]

Didn't anzac cavalry encircle the Italians in Africa

[shrewd hill]

it is purely a map game, you ogle the screen for hours and the only thing that changes is the colour of the map

[manic iris]

also dont the unit counts seem low? or is it just how the game normaly is

[opal nymph]

Richard O'Connor wiped out the Italians in Operation Compass with like 3 divisions where the Germans had to bail them out with Rommel

[manic iris]

if i get this game im totaly bringing back the holy roman empire

[shrewd hill]

‘air battalions’

[opal nymph]

Surprisingly not DLC locked

[inner iron]

Real ones bring back the Holy Albanian Empire

[manic iris]

i can play as the roman empire?

[tepid nova]

Idk the name twine pine ✌️

[manic iris]

you know albania?

[tepid nova]

but you get what I mean

[opal nymph]

You can play as Italy and form Rome

[shrewd hill]

air wings

[manic iris]

shit thats rare to see

[grand wolf]

Hell yeah HRE is amazing

The first Reich

[opal nymph]

Though Mare Nostrum might be DLC locked. Not entirely sure

[opal nymph]

We are map gamers

We know maps

[manic iris]

im glad to see my cuntry has some recognision

[inner iron]

I once did the enver bunker challenge as Albania and killed 2 mil Germans

[manic iris]

albania does have so many bunkers its insane

he was paranoid of invasion

fun fact lol our day of independace was yesterday

[inner iron]

All those Albanian bunkers joining the EU raaaah

[manic iris]

🇦🇱

[opal nymph]

I once tried to play Exile Poland by not upping my conscription law so I would eventually fall.

I took 5 million Germans with me before I finally let them cap me when it was getting a bit unmanageable after I needed to consolidate like half my army

[grand wolf]

Ima just keep holding the line in poland till I have high war score

[opal nymph]

Because they were completely exhausted, i could do the Warsaw uprising

[versed rapids]

that focus doesn't exist

[manic iris]

the stuff yall are discribing making me buy this game like right now

[grand wolf]

It does

[opal nymph]

Oh no... do you not have DLC

[manic iris]

CAN I PLAY AS ALBANIA?

[versed rapids]

i do

[manic iris]

or kosovo

[versed rapids]

where

[opal nymph]

Oh, it's there then

[inner iron]

Yes but it most likely gets pummeled by Italy

[grand wolf]

Yes

[inner iron]

They declare war on you in a year

[opal nymph]

Look down the political tree

[split fulcrum]

like this?

[manic iris]

yep im so buyinmg this game

[opal nymph]

Left side of the focus tree

[versed rapids]

yeah it doesn't eixst

[manic iris]

ill cook

[opal nymph]

Bruh

[opal nymph]

Just type it into search

[grand wolf]

If you the modern day kosovo or Albania experience get the millennium dawn mod

[inner iron]

You literally start off with 2 factories and a bloke with no guns

[opal nymph]

Look in the center

With the paper being ripped up

[versed rapids]

oh yeah

[opal nymph]

And torched

[manic iris]

huh

[versed rapids]

but why doesn't ie light up when i typed the name?

[manic iris]

2 factories is more than enough

[inner iron]

There's a modern day mod with a 2000 start date

[opal nymph]

Incorrect spelling?

[opal nymph]

It's awful

[versed rapids]

no i did type it correctly

[manic iris]

oh shit right after the war

[inner iron]

Against Italy's 80-100 factories

[grand wolf]

Pov every nation is central America and Africa

[manic iris]

in 1 year ill make 2000000 bunkers

[inner iron]

I like it

[manic iris]

italy wojnt do shit

[inner iron]

It's my most played mod

[opal nymph]

Millenium Dawn is what if we make a war game, and put it in a time of peace between majors

[manic iris]

can i create empires

[grand wolf]

Its time consuming tho gotta either lock tf in or be patience

[opal nymph]

And make it a diplomatic game in a game with limited diplomacy functions

[manic iris]

wait btw does the game take 3 irl days to take 1 country

[tepid nova]

No like
delete all the front lines
Then select you're divisions, and put 24 infantry into 1 army by lickcing the + icon at the bottom
Do that until you have all infantry in an army, max 24 per army
Then all you're tanks should also go to their very own aswell, so they arent mixed with an infantry army
When you are done wit hthat, asign generals to each army by clicking the grey portrait icon in the top left when selecting the army
then once you did that, hold shift and select all you're armies by clicking each, and press the other + icon to the left, creating a field marshal, who controls the armies, 1 marshal can control 5 armies
With the field marshal, make 1 frontline, which auto assigns each general to them and makes it perfect

[grand wolf]

Turn on railed world war

[split fulcrum]

im not licking the + icon

[opal nymph]

And any war would have resulted in mutually assured destruction

[tepid nova]

I meant click

y'know hwat

nvm

Lick it

[inner iron]

The only time consuming part is getting the tech up enough to produce ifv's, tanks, spaa, spa, light tanks and attack helicopters

[split fulcrum]

alright

[manic iris]

can i create empires or do u just call it a really big country

[grand wolf]

True

[opal nymph]

I hate MD, idk what features are in it

In vanilla, you can form empires

[grand wolf]

Hate how you got 6 size in all mio's rho

[inner iron]

MD has good enough features, I dislike crashes tho

[opal nymph]

Vanilla Albania is a survival challenge though

[manic iris]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[opal nymph]

Since Italy wants to annex you in 1938

[grand wolf]

Ice never had it crash on me past the initial loading screen

[inner iron]

I run out of mio slots quick, especially with a more naval focused power

[manic iris]

ill do anything to protect my nation

[grand wolf]

Rip, I tried playing as japan and couldn't do a thing couldn't even make a single 2 unit

[inner iron]

How tf

[heavy vigil]

just conquer the world

[manic iris]

ill be considering this game yall ty sm for the help im rlly hyped up

[inner iron]

Japan starts off so technologically advanced

[opal nymph]

Ah yes, the interwar mediums

[manic iris]

Us btw

[heavy vigil]

they start with para tech

its kinda fire

[manic iris]

wait guys LAST thing is it multiplayer? singleplayer?

[split fulcrum]

i didnt lick it though

[manic iris]

is there like sessions with other people or for example can i play w a friend against AI

[tepid nova]

I give up

[inner iron]

Millennium dawn japan

[tepid nova]

Guys WE ARE ALL watching the fortnite live event in 3 hours right?

[inner iron]

Japan starts off with 4th gens off the bat

A good 4th gen design of 200 planes can wipe out the Chinese horde stack of 5k planes

[manic iris]

wait is the game WW1 or WW2 since if it lasts until 1948 WW2 is happening

[manic iris]

??

[idle furnace]

how many medium tanks should i have before ww2 as germany?

[opal nymph]

It has both.

Public MP is where much of the scum of the Earth are though

[idle furnace]

what happened here then

[idle furnace]

yo

how many medium tanks should i have before ww2

[split fulcrum]

all of them

[manic iris]

so like sessions with other people? everyone has its own country

[opal nymph]

I had 3 in my game

[manic iris]

alr

[idle furnace]

what about before war with ussr

[split fulcrum]

the more the better

[opal nymph]

Yeah, there is also coop

[manic iris]

doesent that seem a bit low no?

[opal nymph]

I had 16

[idle furnace]

did u win

[tepid nova]

Like this!
You see how its differenet?

[opal nymph]

Yeah, I dont play optimally

[idle furnace]

u have to hold shift when doing field marshal thing

[opal nymph]

I completed the Fueher Directive

So quickly

[heavy vigil]

jonathan ur the big tech support guy right

[manic iris]

are the soldiiers like IRL numbers

or they they astronomacily huge

[inner iron]

3-5 tanks before polish invasion is fine as Germany since you typically do the hardest hitting fat divisions

[tepid nova]

I said that

[split fulcrum]

it has more colors

[idle furnace]

oh srry lol

[opal nymph]

Your division consists of a few thousand men

[tepid nova]

Because its a field marshal frontline

[opal nymph]

Since they consist of multiple battalions

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova this is a field marshal right???

i clicked on the field marshal

and made a frontline

[idle furnace]

its the one on the left

[manic iris]

ohh i thought the numbers on the screen were like individual units

[tepid nova]

Yes the guy on the left with 5/5 is the marshal
Press him, and then frontline and select poland

[opal nymph]

Individual divisions

[versed rapids]

jaapnese civil war is hard

[manic iris]

guys should i get this hearts of iron or bannerlord im in a debate rn

[opal nymph]

Yeah, I got stalemated in my game

[idle furnace]

are reichskommisariats even worth it

[opal nymph]

They make fun borders

[split fulcrum]

its not looking pretty like yours

[inner iron]

I just delete all my divs and spam deploy militias and swarm it

[opal nymph]

You had to hold shift

[inner iron]

Worked flawlessly

[tepid nova]

Now you are doing it right
Now just draw the offensive line with the fieldmarshal, and wait for you're units to be ready to attack

[opal nymph]

I assume before the military goes on strike

[inner iron]

Yup

[sleek scroll]

fund the civil war 😀

[inner iron]

It's hilarious how I accidentally did it the first time cause I was 1 div training

[idle furnace]

can someone do mp with me and help me beat russia

[inner iron]

And then realised the strike thing

And wheezed

[tepid nova]

No, now the bottom troops will only attack,
JUst draw it along polands soviet border

[split fulcrum]

ohh thats how its works

[tepid nova]

and if you want a bit more indepth control, after you finish the plan, you can hold ALT and press the arrow, and move it around, changing how you're units will complete the plan

[split fulcrum]

i thought its the path it takes

[idle furnace]

oh lol

[idle furnace]

yeah thats good

[tepid nova]

Perfecto
Now wait for most of you're units to be at their position and press the attack button above the field marshal

[manic iris]

guys if u play speficic nations, like japan, can u use their techinques? like example for japan the famous air technique we all know abt

with planes

[inner iron]

Yes

[tepid nova]

Yes

[inner iron]

You can fly planes into ships

[manic iris]

really?

so i can kamikaze

[split fulcrum]

theres the kamikaze ability

[opal nymph]

You can kamikaze

[idle furnace]

kamekaze is already a mission

in the gamew

[manic iris]

this game is so perfect wtf

[tepid nova]

@manic iris This focus allows for kamikaze strikes with japan

[inner iron]

Even albania can kamikaze

Cause generic focus tree

[tepid nova]

WIAT REALLY?!

YES

[opal nymph]

Generic focus tree is quite powerful

[inner iron]

The end branch of the political tree gives you kamikaze ability

[idle furnace]

isnt generic focus tree the one that the game devs havent made a specific focus tree for yet so it just defaults to it

[manic iris]

Holy shit

Jm gonna have so much fun

[opal nymph]

Yeah

[idle furnace]

do u have the game yet

[opal nymph]

No

They do not

[idle furnace]

oh

[manic iris]

No.. im thinking abt getting it 😭

[idle furnace]

its on sale im pretty sure

so now is the time

[peak mason]

The UK needs a new focus tree imo

[manic iris]

Im debating on bannerlord or iron heatt

[manic iris]

On Cdkeys its 8 bucks

[tepid crown]

Most allied majors do

[manic iris]

Im planing on hetting it there

[idle furnace]

u can annex all ur puppets with a civil war

[inner iron]

And minors

Stares at Australia and saf

[peak mason]

More than half of the focuses are just research boosts for air and navy

[inner iron]

70 days for a frikin railway

[peak mason]

And also no army tree?

[tepid crown]

Air research boosts are good though

I’m worried with new dlc they’re going to take those away

[manic iris]

This game has strategy, history, kamikaze, what else does a game need

[peak mason]

Good ai

[inner iron]

Air research is pretty meta, yugo is currently the fastest at rushing advanced airframes

[manic iris]

If only it had nuclear warfare

It would be perfect

[inner iron]

It has it

[manic iris]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[peak mason]

Nukes are so lame rn

[inner iron]

You can get normal nuke strikes and later thermonuclear strikes

[manic iris]

..

Yall are joking

[tepid crown]

Can get them in 1939 too?

[manic iris]

So wait, i fan make the roman empire, get.planes in the roman empire, kamikaze them, AND i can launch nukes

What the

https://tenor.com/view/glitched-ceaser-glitched-history-jitter-king-gif-20284758

[idle furnace]

nukes are so funny in hoi4

[tepid crown]

If you have strat bombers you can

[inner iron]

I'm not too familiar with the details anymore but whenever I spotted a yugo being an axis minor, he instantly took over the air research from hungary and romania

[peak mason]

Nukes should reduce population in the area not just lower surrender limit

[idle furnace]

tru

[manic iris]

Idc if they are usful the idea of the Roman empire launching nukes and kamizake is just

Unreal

[tepid crown]

Cause I know USA and Germany can get advanced frames in 1938/39, and supersonic jets by 1941/42

[steel summit]

question

[idle furnace]

sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, but brains saves both

[steel summit]

what r the best doctrines for grand battleplan in the new update? im tryign to survive as poland

[manic iris]

I HAVE to get this game

[idle furnace]

how do doctrines work in the new update btw

[split fulcrum]

@tepid nova is this normal?

[manic iris]

Wait is singleplayer fun?

[idle furnace]

guys just saying dont ping everyone i tried it before and it didnt go well for me

[manic iris]

Wait is the austrian painter in the game?

[peak mason]

I like the new doctrines you don’t have to spend 100 army xp for every single part of the doctrine

[idle furnace]

obviously

[topaz cobalt]

wellll i think im cooked

[idle furnace]

but u can blur his face

[manic iris]

Can i play as hkm make him control italy

[peak mason]

How did we reach this point

[idle furnace]

wdym

[tepid nova]

Which part?
You're tanks are speeding ahead, but I would stop them there since they are out of supply and frontline gaps
The frontline being skinny/thin, idk why, I just know it happens
Best way to fix is to delete it, and make it again, dont worry you dont have to retreat back

[manic iris]

Can he lead italy

Next emperor of rome

[idle furnace]

u mean like

take over italy

[manic iris]

No

[idle furnace]

or just make him own italy

[topaz cobalt]

idk i just building maginot around whole europu and its just stacking from 170% construction to 40

[manic iris]

He be the next emperor of rome

[idle furnace]

idk prob not

[inner iron]

Should be similar speed then, Australia is another one with advanced airfames around that time

[idle furnace]

thats just dumb

[manic iris]

Wait whag does he dk

Do*

Is he like a dude i go against

[idle furnace]

who

[manic iris]

Painter

[idle furnace]

if u play as germany

no

if u play as an allied country

yes

or if u have a civil war

[inner iron]

That's just mp meta

[peak mason]

The uk focus tree is small.. Like how does BELGIUM have a bigger focus tree and many more paths to take

[idle furnace]

mps are so weird

[inner iron]

Majority of the mp games, Romania is the axis minor rushing advanced airframes

[manic iris]

Im gonna make a coalition and force stalin and painter to join and bam we habe the strongest contry in the world

[idle furnace]

idk

[heavy vigil]

no?

[peak mason]

Same

[heavy vigil]

just improved

theyre very slow at advanced and advanced is bad

and majority of games they also dont

they just get railway gun

[inner iron]

My bad, got it mixed

Romania does improved but hungary has a bonus for advanced frames

[manic iris]

Does each country have their own specific units and military

[heavy vigil]

their own buffs yes

[manic iris]

Own design?

[sage plover]

with the mapuche path, is it possible to switch communist, get the mp focus, then switch back to non-alligned?

[manic iris]

Or all same

[idle furnace]

[sage plover]

most ai make unique templates for their tanks and armys

[idle furnace]

[manic iris]

Can i hypothetacly control a republic country and just turn it into a monarchy

[idle furnace]

this should be my new pfp

[sage plover]

a german tank wont mimic a french or italian tank

[sage plover]

yes

[manic iris]

Hm

[sage plover]

9 times outta ten, yes

very, very rarely, there will be a set path that wont let you deviate, tho i may be wrong

[manic iris]

Im guessing there will be major civil wars but ill just stop them the napoleon way

[steel summit]

what r the best doctrines this gme?

[sage plover]

yeahh sorta depends. some focus paths require a civil war

like the german one

[ocean lark]

Why did i got every dlc for free

[inner iron]

That's if it even has a monarchy

[sage plover]

if u wanna go non-historically

[inner iron]

Hoi4 is on sale temporarily

You have access while it lasts

[jolly saffron]

i only get the dlcs while the sale lasts?

[manic iris]

Do have to follow their paths

[idle furnace]

should i do light tanks as germany

[manic iris]

If u buy a item during a sale its urs forever

[idle furnace]

if ur a monarchy and u puppet it i think u can

[sage plover]

noooo

in some occasions, you can deviate

[worn coral]

they are non-aligned

and they had the other focus tree

[sage plover]

like if u go down monarchist germany, you can switch back to facist, while still keeping the monarchist focus

[jolly saffron]

I only bought the base game

[steel summit]

helppp what r the best defensive doctrines for poland?

[worn coral]

because before i puppeted it

[split fulcrum]

i didnt even activate the plan

[worn coral]

it was communist

[sage plover]

defence is gonna be grand battleplan

[split fulcrum]

gang getting too excited

[steel summit]

yes im gbp but each doctrine there

[inner iron]

Praying to Jesus

[manic iris]

Example something today is kn sale from 20€ to 5€, when u buy it fkr 5 €, its urs forever they dknt take it back

[idle furnace]

is this kaiserreich

[sage plover]

that too

[ocean mirage]

give danzig

[manic iris]

Im gonna nuke everyone and everything cant wait

[surreal mist]

SFP is the defensive doctrine, GBP has no relevant tactics lmfao

[worn coral]

no??

dude

where did u get that from

[steel summit]

nuh uh

[manic iris]

Im enlisting eevryone in the military since 16 no one survives

[inner iron]

Polish habsburg monarchy easily slaps Germany tho

[jolly saffron]

yea I wasnt talking about that...

[sage plover]

honestly, your best bet is to give land to the USSR, then defend on the rivers

you cant survive a 2 front war

[jolly saffron]

nvm i misunderstood something someone here said

[inner iron]

I've received the best defensive stats on mass mob so far

[manic iris]

Does the game include like the terrain? Like height advantage and stuff

[ocean mirage]

r u going historicla poland and w'at to fight ussr and germany smae time?

[idle furnace]

lmao ive never played it so idk the focus tree and saw u were austria hungary and some of the names of the focuses were different

[surreal mist]

new doctrines dont have all of mass mob's features available in any combination

[idle furnace]

and had kaiser in it

[surreal mist]

you cant get width reduced infantry with guerilla and recovery rate

[topaz cobalt]

uh finaly ( the 1k division is just defending whole europe

[steel summit]

im going commonweatlh

[heavy vigil]

militia 😍

[inner iron]

Whatever is the most right grand doctrine called, my memory is doodoo

[steel summit]

but im not amazing at the game just under 170 hours

[sage plover]

desperate defence is honestly amazing

[tepid nova]

you should do that then

[sage plover]

that extra mp alone carries me </3

[surreal mist]

you dont take mass assault ever in new doctrine system, irrelevant milestone stats

[inner iron]

I got carried by reduced combat width

[surreal mist]

you take SFP for defense or GBP for offense

[sage plover]

im playing mapuche

[ocean mirage]

i have no idea how ur gonna fight both the empires at once but u should stream it id watch

[sage plover]

i need all the mp i can get

[steel summit]

hell yeah

[regal heron]

will ai surrender if i spam nuclear their country

[manic iris]

??

[inner iron]

Plains, urban, hills, marshes, mountains, forests, desert etc

[sage plover]

different terrains do have different modifiers

[inner iron]

And rivers

[sage plover]

different combat widths, buffs and debuffs

[manic iris]

For both sides?

[sage plover]

yeah

wait

no

[manic iris]

If i say i sorruound the enemy does that give me buffs

Di u get an adavatage

[sage plover]

huge buff

[ocean mirage]

where will u stream it

[copper sluice]

why is singapore so buggy

[sage plover]

encirclement bonus

[inner iron]

Encirclement penalty is a thing

[tepid nova]

Guys someone help, did they actually lower the time it takes to construct ships? In 1943 now I see Japan, UK and USA easily have over 12 carriers each, and even germany has multiple every game

[ripe slate]

Large unit tactics is good for the infantry part I believe

[sage plover]

if u attack into a tile, the battle uses the modifiers of the tile your attacking into

[manic iris]

This game did think of everything

Im buying it

[sage plover]

peak

[inner iron]

And the defender can get bonuses on certain terrains

Mountains makes you more immune to bombing

[idle furnace]

bro why did fps map remove big field marshal arrow

its so annoying

[sage plover]

if u want i can help u abit. it can take a while to get used to, but id be down to vc or be there to dm

[manic iris]

If i get the game ill let you know

[sage plover]

👍

[steel summit]

oki :3

[sage plover]

it can take a good while to learn

took me 50 hours to get my grips, and i had played similar strategy games for over 600 hours

[inner iron]

My fiancee still hasn't figured out the game after 200 hours

[copper sluice]

is there a reason why I physically cant take it?

[sage plover]

fair </3

[idle furnace]

normal for a hoi4 player

[sage plover]

i got about 500 hours, i aint perfect but i do know my way around

[inner iron]

I did make her suffer as China back then and I carried the war as guanxi

[quartz canyon]

Is sloped armored worth it on space marines?

[sage plover]

i had to carry as italy, my mate was germany

i got to paris before him

he was still loosing in poland </3

[manic iris]

Ive plaued a lot of simular games

[inner iron]

A friend of mine almost took a L as Sweden against Norway

My brave 200k Estonians spawned in and pushed them back

Norway joined the allies and the brits swarmed it

[manic iris]

There is a game called Conflict of nations it seems rlly simular to this

[sage plover]

i hate the allies so much oml

[ocean mirage]

Were the estonian light tanks involved in this

[sage plover]

im just glad that they dont care about south america XD

[inner iron]

I'm pretty sure that place had never heard of a tank

[ocean mirage]

wait until u declare on cambodia

[sage plover]

that, isnt south america?

thats in south east asia

[copper sluice]

ok well idk whats going on everytime I attack anything the attack gets cancelled instantly

[inner iron]

Deorged from no supply

[idle furnace]

why does every map mod just make the map extremely dark lol

[sudden thistle]

Most People don’t like being flashbanged

[idle furnace]

i love being flashbanged by a map though

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/bXlNA.gif

[thick kettle]

Love china spamming their infantry

[inner iron]

You haven't seen cs2 players trying to minmax visibility

Stares at myself

[idle furnace]

are light tanks good

or should i just keep doing medium tanks

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[wraith mauve]

How fix

[inner iron]

They keep up until midgame when you just spam close support gun light tanks

[steel summit]

question

[idle furnace]

imma just do mediums

[steel summit]

at what time do the soviets show up against poland?

[inner iron]

Whenever molotov goes off, they have a free reign against you to justify whenever

[wraith mauve]

Hello?

[inner iron]

You can prolly get away with it if you give up the east

You usually get an event for it

[sudden thistle]

Downgrade to 1.16

[wraith mauve]

K

[inner iron]

Otherwise you can keep delaying it by releasing belarus and ukraine

[wraith mauve]

Any 1.16 or just 1.16

[inner iron]

Soviets only have claims on their cores

[sudden thistle]

Idk

[wraith mauve]

Ima try 16.9

[idle furnace]

Wonderful

[lime python]

how do i change game version

I wanna play a mod that hanst been updated yet

[idle furnace]

whats a good infantry template

[idle furnace]

i think its in pinned messages somewhere

[sudden thistle]

click the gear and then properties

change one of the beta's to the one u want

[idle furnace]

whats a good infantry template

[sudden thistle]

figure it out yourself

[idle furnace]

😁

imma experiment

[lime python]

Which verision is the latest one from before the new dlc?

like before 20th of november 2025

[south lance]

should i switch to mechanized?

[inner iron]

That lack of hard attack hurts my brain

[steel summit]

no f way i was abel to take prussia from germany n now the west fron it completely stalled

5 24 infantry regiments on the german border

[sudden thistle]

1.16

[inner iron]

Hist poland?

[sudden thistle]

always

[icy crescent]

1.16.9

[south lance]

ok thx

[steel summit]

commonwealth

i rushed the suply hub in prussia and their units just got red supply

encircled like 7 tank divs

[inner iron]

I'm surprised you didn't go Habsburg

[steel summit]

is it better?

[inner iron]

Czechs sit on a lot of industry

[steel summit]

sorry first time playing polnad

[inner iron]

I usually go habsburg if my main thing is bashing germany

No czech annexation for them which means they have WAY less equipment

You get the czech army for yourself for free

And all the industry

[idle furnace]

bro ts so annoying i uninstalled, i verified game files, i deleted the paradox folder and its not fixed and also its not a map mod cuz i tried with no mods

[steel summit]

oh ok sorry

[idle furnace]

its been like that for ages

[inner iron]

You didn't do anything wrong

[steel summit]

1.3 Million german deaths with just 72k polish

bfyusjnkald

[idle furnace]

lol

[inner iron]

Commonwealth is usually the weaker path to take as Poland, well until you get all your cores in the Soviets

You core most of Ukraine and all of Belarus

[steel summit]

my plan is to beat germany before the soviets come to me

[inner iron]

Poland has some focuses for buffs in core territory so you'd pretty much be rolling the Soviets on anything Belarusian and Ukranian

I just don't remember much about the focus tree anymore

Haven't played it for months

[steel summit]

i think the german ai is stupid

why r all of their forces in the south by silesia?

there r almost none in pomerania

germanyy just collapsed

[inner iron]

The AI likes to swarm any minor nation territory you border

I assume slovakia was stacked

[mellow parrot]

Well Crap

[steel summit]

why did germany call italy into it when it was at 96% cap

[fierce mist]

Got dam historical china is boring as hell

[versed rapids]

wha's legitimacy

[thick kettle]

litearlly happens when communist china exists in the region

fun

[inner iron]

Fascist China gets you the quickest unification and somehow your underequipped starting army trashes all the warlords lmao

Cause you get buffed to hell on core territory

[thick kettle]

just don't let them reach mid-end game

[sudden thistle]

everyone in china has a massively underequipped army

[thick kettle]

that's because their railroad sucks

[sudden thistle]

wha

[thick kettle]

let alone barely even upgrade their stuff

[sudden thistle]

what does a railroad do with starting deficits

[thick kettle]

lacking supply

[inner iron]

Guanxi and guangdong usually is the quickest to equip their armies

Cause they get equipment from their focuses

[sudden thistle]

that doesnt do anything with it

[thick kettle]

what about the starting debuffs

lack of military factilities

let alone being the major warlord that is

[regal heron]

is there a way to check ace total

[sudden thistle]

im confused on how you think railways affect all of these

actually im just confused

[regal heron]

dawg ace tab making my game crash

[inner iron]

Spamming your army with guns early game is hilariously easy, you just buy all the guns on the market

[sudden thistle]

with what civs

u have like 3-4 civs that can be used

[inner iron]

3-4 is enough for cheap guns

[broken sky]

the factories will be used to store all the guns instead😞

[sudden thistle]

im beginning to think unlimited vols are bad

[inner iron]

I remember when Tibet funded my efforts to have anti air and artillery in my shitty warlord army

Thanks tibet

[sudden thistle]

i sent them 26 divs

win

[inner iron]

Easiest world tension

[zealous wind]

Bro what changed with navy, why cant I invade midway no more wtf

[ripe slate]

Now you gotta use patrol instead of strike

[zealous wind]

I know

but I dont have range ?

[inner iron]

You get more range by assigning your fleet to a different naval headquarters or port

[zealous wind]

I used to do it before as japan

I dont have the naval headquarter dlc 😭

[inner iron]

Oh brother

[zealous wind]

what...

[inner iron]

Wait so how does your fleet work then

[zealous wind]

so I cant do it without the new dlc or what

[zealous wind]

I mean I still need " naval dominance"

I need to put it on patrol

but it just doesnt have the range

[inner iron]

Click on your fleet and you should see a port name on top of your ship list

Like a button to assign your fleet to a different port

They changed how ships operate and get supplied with ports

[zealous wind]

okay let me try that

[inner iron]

Like I had to go from Asia to the Med and begged the British for access to Alexandria port just to have range and supply there

[zealous wind]

thank you asuka langley

goated

[inner iron]

Now watch your deathstack starve in a lvl 1 port

[stiff fern]

Im gonna commit war crimes again

[whole copper]

guys

is there any way to disable the stupid autonaming system

[zealous wind]

I upgraded it...

[whole copper]

the variant naming system (i have no idea how to phrase it)

the mk1, mk2... whenever I upgrade my equipment

[river gull]

belgium joins the allies while i have a guarantee with britain great job bullshit

[whole copper]

is there any mod that disables that?

[inner iron]

They guarantee your independence not your freedom of aggression

Boohoo moment

[river gull]

"boohoo" they joined the allies the moment they had 3 divisions left

[inner iron]

Have fun

[river gull]

its unwinnable i didnt expect them to join

[inner iron]

Time to bunker up then

[grizzled zenith]

How does equipment capture work? When I tried using it as Ethiopia(like 70% equipment capture rate from 1 focus) I got 0 equipment from defending and someone told me it only works with attack, but LegitBurger got thousands of guns from just defending as Communist China

[grizzled zenith]

Italians definitely have some guns I would get from defending and attacking didn't seem to change the fact I never got any guns

[inner iron]

Some friend explained that a 70% increase from 0 is still 0, you need to have actual capture ratio

Maintenance companies or generals with scavenger or both

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[inner iron]

My entire Chinese high command had scavenger and I captured so many random tanks from people

[grizzled zenith]

Then I gotta do my Ethiopia run again with stealing lots of guns

[inner iron]

I had the same problem as Finland where they have the focus for capturing but I needed maintenance companies to make it work

[grizzled zenith]

Are scavenger generals enough? Because the Ethiopian focus gives scavenger trait to 2 random generals

[inner iron]

It worked for my China run just fine

I kept looting Soviet equipment on the attack

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[grizzled zenith]

Does it work for defence btw?

[inner iron]

I assume attrition and equipment reliability also plays a role on how much can you squeeze out of the enemy

Enemy attritioning to the point of literally dropping guns to you

Italians usually are fine on supply

[grizzled zenith]

Iirc they had literally no supply since I retreated to the mountains in the South

And in the North I held

[jaunty timber]

i have a question people

[inner iron]

And attrition?

[jaunty timber]

is there a way as japan to make the allied powers surrender without actually invading the americas or europe

[grizzled zenith]

Idk how to check attrition

[jaunty timber]

or just have them give up their colonial possessions

[inner iron]

Italians will catch a lot of attrition when they're attacking from desert and mountain tiles in ethiopia

Or tiles with scorching temps

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah they were attacking from the deserts

And I was in the mountains since they're easier to hold

[inner iron]

I'm only aware of 2 desert tiles on ethiopia

[grizzled zenith]

Nah I think I'll just do a Luxembourg WC I don't want to play Ethiopia

[inner iron]

The aussa part

[grizzled zenith]

I think there are some deserts in the south?

And mountains in the North

[inner iron]

They're plains

[grizzled zenith]

Last time I checked they were deserts

Let me check

[inner iron]

The south crumbles easily cause it's mostly plains

[ocean mirage]

what nationalist turkish path should i go for???

[grizzled zenith]

I retreat to the mountains normaly

[inner iron]

I've commited to holding as ethiopia usually

[grizzled zenith]

But what do you think I should use for Luxembourg, mountaineers or cheap space marines?

[inner iron]

They waste so much equipment trying to push my ragtag militia

[inner iron]

If you're just holding on one single tile, mechanized

[gaunt narwhal]

What are meta templates for tank destroyers?

[inner iron]

It has the highest defence stats

[grizzled zenith]

I'm going to attack Belgium in 1938 and then the Netherlands and unite the Benelux and then hold against Germany and unite the EU

Idk how to hold a single tile anyways

[inner iron]

You'll most likely get bogged down in the ardennes

[grand wolf]

UOSROEAE was not a fun experience during the peace deal

[inner iron]

Oh right I forgot, Luxembourg is 2 tiles now

Easier to hold cus no encirclement penalty

[grand wolf]

It is?

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[mortal mirage]

Fantastic 😎

[grizzled zenith]

But I retreat to my capital

[grizzled zenith]

XD

[mortal mirage]

hello bro

[grizzled zenith]

So it's still easy

[grizzled zenith]

Hi

[grizzled zenith]

But what do you think I should use?

[mortal mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/potuzhnist-potuzhno-gif-4738948544643578573

[inner iron]

Mechanized

[fallen vigil]

this achievement was suprisingly easy it took me 2 tries only

[grand wolf]

Whats a good cost for a medium tank?

[grizzled zenith]

Bro it's a 1940 tech how am I supposed to get it

[grizzled zenith]

Oh hold on mechanisation tech

[inner iron]

Generic focus tree gives you research bonus for trucks and then mech

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[grizzled zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/954031666010128474/1430229039171375266/image0.gif

[grizzled zenith]

Just mechanised with no tanks?

[mortal mirage]

peremoga vsikh na front