hoi4-general

[inner iron]

Unless you're doing meta tanks, you have to do air

Infantry is shit at pushing

[tribal frost]

AI is easy MP yes

[hushed flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[tribal frost]

i owned all of europe and formed eu as the german kaisereich in 1941 with inf spam

[inner iron]

I only see mountaineers with line arty using superior firepower rolling over units

Otherwise inf is doodoo

[gaunt thorn]

do u have tips on what to do with the uk navy

[tulip thorn]

?

[tribal frost]

You know the methods i need some

im sort of new to the game

[inner iron]

I somehow killed the axis as the Philippines in 1941 yesterday

[tribal frost]

monarchy?

[inner iron]

Yup

[tribal frost]

i see

[inner iron]

I did not realize how busted it is to have Spain allied while you're integrating most of Latin America with just a few clicks

[tribal frost]

what year did you beat axis?

[inner iron]

1941

[tribal frost]

dang

[inner iron]

Somehow Spain broke the Italian army for me

And I pushed for the civil war puppet

[tribal frost]

i could never

[buoyant lodge]

british airforce is dead, time to brutally paradrop into em and kill em

[tribal frost]

i was trying to unite the world under the british empire i owned france netherlands belgium luxembourg i waited until the egermans were about to cap the soviets after thr fall of moscow i delcared and i got pounded some how

[tulip thorn]

Got the last british battleship

[tribal frost]

i owned all of the americas

[tribal frost]

all of africa

most of asia

[inner iron]

You probably got cas'd

[frosty elk]

Hello! New to the gmae. Trying to watch as many tutorials only but its a bit overwheelming .Any one interested in helping a noob out?

[tribal frost]

true

[inner iron]

If you do no air builds, you always need support anti air

[tribal frost]

i had some

[inner iron]

And sometimes build anti air in states

[tribal frost]

my build crushes the AI

[inner iron]

And sometimes have straight up line anti air

[buoyant lodge]

if u dont have allies, simply make some reichskommissariats

[inner iron]

So does mine, briefly

I typically go for no supply builds

So my full army still walks in Siberia

[tribal frost]

i see

[tribal frost]

id rather have puppets

[inner iron]

It's how I oneshotted the Soviets as Japan

I stayed supplied in Siberia while overrunning Soviet goons

And reached Moscow before the Germans did

[tribal frost]

how many hours you got?

[inner iron]

Too much

[tribal frost]

i can tell

i have like 800 but like 100 hours of afk or i fell asleep

[inner iron]

I've standardized my build to the point of being numb

I always have the same inf, same tanks, same air, same navy

[tribal frost]

i steal the navy

i never do air

[inner iron]

I build my fleets from scratch with whatever tech I have

[tribal frost]

i try early and then i give up because im making little to none

[inner iron]

I spammed out 40 heavy cruisers and 80 lights as China lol

[buoyant lodge]

reichskommissariats are puppets?

[tulip thorn]

This is all that was left of the british navy

[empty kettle]

What does faction theater do?
I dont exactly understand it

[tribal frost]

they are but i was talking about like real puppets

the other puppets

[buoyant lodge]

WE LANDED BOYS

[inner iron]

I either build cas fighters or normal fighters with cannon 2's

[tribal frost]

Nice

i always tell myself im going to build air later but i never do

[inner iron]

Well I always run out of steel so I start switching more and more over to air

[tribal frost]

i see

[inner iron]

I dislike trading away my factories because that's less construction

I try to minmax my resources

[buoyant lodge]

do u think i have enough fighters

[inner iron]

What's the design

[buoyant lodge]

the standard one

should i change it

[inner iron]

That's bad then

[tribal frost]

fair

[inner iron]

If you want the most bogstandard early to midgame fighter, rush heavy machine guns

And stack it

[buoyant lodge]

alright

[buoyant lodge]

this is my first ever successful invasion of birtain, r u proud of me

[inner iron]

In what year

[buoyant lodge]

jan 42

[inner iron]

Could do better

But atleast you did it

[buoyant lodge]

10 hour me thought britain was impenetrable

90 hour me just invaded britain for the first time ever

[inner iron]

I'm not sure about the new supremacy system but earlier versions let you instainvade britain in 37-38 and cap them early

And then finish off france for a peace deal

[buoyant lodge]

valid, but i never have air supremacy early game

i always have rubber shortages

[inner iron]

Talking about naval supremacy

Your crappy German navy has initial supremacy on the second you declare war with the old naval system

Cause the brit navy isn't out yet

But the new update prolly changed it

[grand wolf]

Ive never done the russian civil war is it easy?

[inner iron]

It's easy if you cheese it

[grand wolf]

How do I do that

[tribal frost]

its wayy diff now

[grand wolf]

You can do paratroopers from the east

Its really easy

[tribal frost]

even with the italian and french navy in 1940 its way harder now

[inner iron]

You can convert all your divisions into one single battalion of anti air or anti tank, delete all the other templates, pop the civil war and swarm with cavalry

The soviets won't be able to respond cause they won't have any normal templates

[grand wolf]

So basically like the german civil war

[inner iron]

Difference being that german civil war can just be battleplanned without any cheese

[buoyant lodge]

should i kill italy

i wanna form the balkan reichskommissariat but he took some land

[odd mesa]

starting to think i need to go non-historical so i stop getting dicked down viciously by japan as china

[zenith charm]

did they fix the map yet for map mods

[placid radish]

does anyone know if the heavy td build on russia still works with coal and the new doctrines? if so pls explain how to adapt it since i havent been able to replicate it yet

[crude bronze]

i cant micro manage in peace without my stupid generals making the dumbest decisions and causing us to lose

[lethal ether]

is it weird i have hundreds of hours of playtime and i never played greece or turkey

[ocean mirage]

greece is fun to play

turkey not

[feral tulip]

is this normal 💔

[grizzled zenith]

How am I supposed to do naval invasions now? If I want to send just 1 divisions to take an island am I supposed to wait for 50 days?

[ocean mirage]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[ocean mirage]

yes and coal

[lethal ether]

best use of political power

[grizzled zenith]

That's so stupid

I'll install a mod that reverts that unless I'm going for achievements

[ocean mirage]

fair enough bro i cant even play rome anymore

once u hit mare nostrum ur in a deficit of like 900 coal CONSIDERING ur trading all the coal in the world on closed eco

[grizzled zenith]

Also idk how the new navy works so I can't get naval supermacy but that's more a skill issue than anything

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[ocean mirage]

oh yea if ur playing germany just forget about naval supremacy

paratroopers are the way now

[grizzled zenith]

Damn

And I wanted to build a navy as Greece...

Naval bomber spam my beloved

[ocean mirage]

since now to get naval supremacy u have to let ur fleet on patrol for a certain amount of time ( g.e: ur italian navy gets 100 dominance per day when on patrol on the english channel, and to invade you have to get 3200, so you wait 32 days and then you can navally invade )

[ocean mirage]

oh nono if u wanna build navy its still fine and good

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[ocean mirage]

its just that the normal germany strikeforce and pray for a tick of green sea method got patched

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah now they force everyone to learn navy

[buoyant lodge]

tank production is about to be unholy

[grizzled zenith]

But I'll probably still resort to spamming naval bombers on all my coastline after I conquer Europe

And spamming subs so I can get the naval supermacy after I bomb the navies

[ocean mirage]

subs dont give u

naval supremacy

[grizzled zenith]

Not anymore?

[ocean mirage]

on convoy raid

nope convoy raiding actually takes away naval supremacy now

[grizzled zenith]

But subs still can be used as a strike force?

Just like before

Even if they aren't good when there's no navy contesting them they should work

[ocean mirage]

you have to put them on patrol not strike force

but yes

[grizzled zenith]

You can't put them in strike force?

[ocean mirage]

no strike force doesnt give you any naval supremacy

its patrol or nothing now

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok, so I can put them on patrol

After bombing my coastlines for years

[grizzled zenith]

That's what I did in my first few WCs

[ocean mirage]

yea i mean whos gonna contest u bro theres not a single fish left on the coast

[grizzled zenith]

But still building a navy is probably faster and more fun

I just have no idea how to do it

[buoyant lodge]

gosh i love this coal update 😐

[ocean mirage]

same here bro

[ocean mirage]

wait until ur in 1942 and u cant get rid of the deficit anymore

[inner iron]

You can by demobilising your economy

[grizzled zenith]

Unless you go to every tile and remove the factories

[ocean mirage]

bro

1941

[grizzled zenith]

And demobilise your economy, yeah

[ocean mirage]

rome formed

like even if i demobilize my economy i cant get enough

[inner iron]

Should be enough on civ eco

[ocean mirage]

civ eco only -50% and i was on partial mob there

[grizzled zenith]

I mean, if all those countries could maintain those factories why can't 1 big country in charge of all of them manage that? Doesn't make any sense in the slightest

[stoic geyser]

Is this a good tank devision for the UK?

[inner iron]

And you never went closed eco

[ocean mirage]

no idea bro they killed all formables now its either puppeto r nothing

[ocean mirage]

even if i go closed eco

its 200 more coa

l

it doesnt change anything

[wanton whale]

Need more

[grizzled zenith]

Or demobilise+closed eco+remove factories

But it doesn't make sense

[ocean mirage]

what next bro remove my balls

[grizzled zenith]

If France could maintain the factories, why Rome can't?

[buoyant lodge]

fr

[inner iron]

Excavate more coal, excav tech and build infrastructure

I was able to maintain a 200 coal surplus on a 700 factory china

[wanton whale]

500 production lines

[inner iron]

No idea how you can't

[ocean mirage]

china isnt italy/europe

[buoyant lodge]

minimum.

[ocean mirage]

italyh starts out with 0 coal

[wanton whale]

frfr

[ocean mirage]

like

go play ONE game

of rome

and tell me if u can manage coal

[wanton whale]

Stop flexing vro

[inner iron]

You're extracting more coal as that formable than China will ever be able to build up

[tulip thorn]

They have like 7

[ocean mirage]

not really bro i only have 870 facs

[grand wolf]

Why is the union of Soviet Republics color so bright

[grizzled zenith]

And you have more factories than China ever has

[inner iron]

That's plenty of factories

[ocean mirage]

yes but they dont work

since i have deficit of coal

[wanton whale]

I mean, once you get all construction buffs

It doesn't matter really

[inner iron]

Still had 700+ factories

He has 870

Negligible difference

[grizzled zenith]

On civ eco with closed economy and max infrastructure everywhere?

You could use like 500 at most

Or even less

[wanton whale]

Yeah 😭

[inner iron]

Yes and I was shitting out a 1000 rubber cuz I saw no point in building more factories, I spammed refineries and civ nuke reactors

[wanton whale]

World conquered - controlled and cored America - still in huge coal debt

[ocean mirage]

oh yeah even worse now byzantium doesnt get any coal as a formable at ALL

like

its rome without france

u core half of all europe and half of north africa but u dont get SHIT

[worn coral]

ok

[grizzled zenith]

That's what I normally do at one point, normally like 100 working factories is enough for me to build radars, nuclear reactors and refineries and all the stuff I want for war

[inner iron]

Pretty sure the balkans get coal excav decisions

[grizzled zenith]

But I don't need coal to do that lmao

Coal now just kills my economy unless I heavily handicap it

[inner iron]

Chinese warlords are pretty much busted with the new update cause they can still push to 10% consumer goods even on toaster economy which is hilarious

[buoyant lodge]

oh no america...

[inner iron]

It's why China scales so well now

Compared to the rest of the world

[grand wolf]

The USR needs a strong industry

[ocean mirage]

bro i thin kthey should atleast give coal to africa

you cant tell me

congo having NO COAL AT ALL is fun

[grizzled zenith]

Or Byzantium

[ocean mirage]

byzantium is long gone bro 😭

[grizzled zenith]

Good thing I did my Macedonian Empire run right before they added coal

Or I'd be cooked

[ocean mirage]

oh yeah mozambique has 0 coal too

[buoyant lodge]

once america collapses, its wraps

[inner iron]

Africa was never properly prospected at that time period so it makes sense

[grizzled zenith]

But it didn't have literally 0 resources irl either

[inner iron]

South Africa is the properly industrialised place

[ocean mirage]

south africa has 30 coal which is

ridiculous

[inner iron]

It was too expensive at that time, the tech wasn't there literally

[ripe slate]

Its realistic

🤷‍♂️

[ocean mirage]

how

[ripe slate]

They had a bunch of coal mines

[grand wolf]

Is 28 combat width infantry good for defense as the soviet union?

[ripe slate]

Thats whats coal is based on

[inner iron]

Asia is barren on resources too because the tech to properly excavate China realistically happened in the 50s and 60s

[ripe slate]

China's coal basically grew with demand it seems like

[ocean mirage]

thats so stupid

[inner iron]

25 width is the good soft spot

[ripe slate]

What else would it be based off? 🤷‍♂️

[ocean mirage]

make it so i can atleast build coal mines

[grand wolf]

Watch them add diamonds next

[ocean mirage]

presence of coal in x region

[inner iron]

Congo does sell diamonds

[grand wolf]

Hmmm one sec

[ripe slate]

Yeh thats quite strongly correlated with the coal mining going on, except for a region like China

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah, let people build mines in regions with coal but no mines

[grand wolf]

I feel like them adding diamonds as a resource would make congo do questionable things

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[ripe slate]

Chinese coal doubled like every (few) decades for a while

[dim agate]

against the AI i find you can easily hold the border with a lot of the starting inf template with support AA

[inner iron]

No you literally have a decision to sell diamonds as the congo for extra pp

[ocean mirage]

liek u cant tell me south africa's 30 coal is realistic bro come on

[dim agate]

i did not even build forts

[worn coral]

what is this bro

[ripe slate]

There is literally a research report from the UK that shows they extracted millions of tonnes

[worn coral]

my non-aligned german puppet btw

[dusk moss]

new coal mechanic pmo

[grand wolf]

Interesting

[dusk moss]

how tf im supposed to find all that coal???

[grizzled zenith]

Btw what do you think about having to wait 50 days to send even 1 divisions in a naval invasion? Like if I want to get an island and I need 1 div for that do I need to wait 2 months for that?

[dusk moss]

they should remove coal imo

or rebalance it

[ocean mirage]

no yes i agree thats my point they extracted millions of tonnes not 30 coal

[ripe slate]

Change eco law

[grand wolf]

It'll end up being 23.8 width when I get large unit tactics so im good

[dusk moss]

alr

[ocean mirage]

like theres too little in south africa compared to the game

[dusk moss]

where

[ripe slate]

q is the country law menu IIRC

[ocean mirage]

how did u form autsria hungary bro 😭

[dusk moss]

I dont see it

[ocean mirage]

hoi precoal was wayyyyyy better

[dusk moss]

fr

coal made it worse

[inner iron]

Since you're doing inf swarm, going mountaineers would also be a good call for shitty terrain while tanks deal with the plains

[dusk moss]

it js turned HOI IV into vic

[worn coral]

where do u even see austria hungary

[ripe slate]

I think youre on free trade, if you go back to export itll free up a few hundred coal

[ocean mirage]

the flag

[inner iron]

Mountaineer doctrine also gives you less combat width for them

[dusk moss]

alr

[dim agate]

i dont see anything wrong with this

[grand wolf]

Will do, I just need the army ex and research to make some good tanks i want them IS tanks

[ripe slate]

@ocean mirageDont bypass the filter

[ocean mirage]

i forgot u can check focus progress of other nations same faction

[ocean mirage]

what filter

[buoyant lodge]

gentlemen, we might win this one

[ripe slate]

bad swear word filter

[ocean mirage]

ok

[inner iron]

Heavy tanks are too wasteful imo

[dim agate]

what even is the point of army xp after you get the subdoctrines?

[grand wolf]

Im still gonna make em

[dim agate]

'42? damn

[grand wolf]

Actually

[gentle marsh]

hiiii

[buoyant lodge]

first time ever i defeated britain was this playthrough ❤️

[grand wolf]

Ill make mediums but there gonna be named different

[dim agate]

how hard is it after the new naval update?

[gentle marsh]

oh god im not ready for multiplayer

[buoyant lodge]

idk i used paratroopers

[dim agate]

that explains it, a classic

[buoyant lodge]

it took hella fighters to get air superiority

[buoyant lodge]

feels cheesy to use

[inner iron]

Cause you have crappy basic fighters

[meager valley]

Yeah paratroopers are cheesy. They should work more like raids. But instead just teleport into enemy land and deorg them

[silent root]

this good people?

[grand wolf]

Im convinced the entire song of free bird is the one and only sound of freedom

[meager valley]

Nah Herb Alpert and the Tijuana brass is

[gentle marsh]

ughhhh im lagging so much

i cant find a antilag mod

for 1.16 i think it called

[inner iron]

The numbers mason, what do they mean

[meager valley]

50 combat width 💀

[inner iron]

This was a troll volunteer unit in a mp game

[magic musk]

Heya guys! Does anyone know if MD has updated since the last DLC dropped?

[rough tartan]

Inshallah we will get siam focus tree

[grand wolf]

Nah freebird is

[ocean mirage]

if u find one plz send it to me 2

[meager valley]

Is mid

[magic musk]

a friends decided to ask me in spite of me being on the wrong side of the earth

[grand wolf]

Your life is mid

[meager valley]

Edgy. Imagine taking it that personally. 😂

[grand wolf]

Yeah it has

[magic musk]

Sick, ty

[grand wolf]

Im not😂

[meager valley]

Then delete the personal attack 😉

[rough tartan]

When is paradox fixing sinkiang joining the ussr in historical?

[grand wolf]

Never😌

[meager valley]

Avg edgy teen listening to freebird thinking it’s the best song ever bc they saw it in Arma 3 videos

[grand wolf]

Tf is arma 3

[meager valley]

When is paradox fixing in general

[tepid crown]

Uncultured

[rough tartan]

Never

[grand wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890311036127830017/1282731890658508890/hitler.gif

[meager valley]

For real, just sad

[rough tartan]

We should just go back to the stone age and see if something changes

[buoyant lodge]

unc H caught lacking

[tepid crown]

🤓

[grand wolf]

Pov hoi5

[grand wolf]

Fr he didn't like it when stalin caught him lacking in Berlin

[gentle marsh]

wow

[buoyant lodge]

imagine losing lol

[gentle marsh]

does that exist

[buoyant lodge]

i would've won

[rough tartan]

I hate sinkiang in general

[meager valley]

Surprised mods didn’t insta kill that image. They generally hate Hitler/suicide pics 😭

[grand wolf]

Not yet

[meager valley]

I want to like Kumul, but Soviets always send 420 tank divisions

[rough tartan]

Just switch sinkiang to fascism

[fringe shell]

yeah im aint invading uk

[rough tartan]

They don’t get any volunteers

[grand wolf]

Couldn't be me

[ocean mirage]

paradeop

[meager valley]

Does the leader get Calvary buffs?

[inner iron]

You literally have 0 screens

[meager valley]

Hate how the new Hitler looks like if Michael Scott from the office dressed up as Hitler

[grand wolf]

The jacket is cool

[rough tartan]

Wdym? Kumul gets cavalry buffs but sinkiang just changes ideology so it doesn’t get any volunteers

Also kumul gets the focus tree to core all of china

[meager valley]

Oooh I thought you meant kumul change

[rough tartan]

Pretty cool

[meager valley]

And can core Turkic stuff and Mongolian stuff

[rough tartan]

You can switch to fascism and ally with the japanese

[rough tartan]

Yes

[buoyant lodge]

when should i create a new theater

[meager valley]

Tbh wish the Mongolian formable was similar to the Arabic one and allowed for expansion. Not just a one time formable

[rough tartan]

Never or maybe just for garrison

[meager valley]

I usually have to after 10 armies bc larger UI

[rough tartan]

Paradox totally had the time to make more content for mongolia

[gentle marsh]

i need an antilag mod

[meager valley]

Oh I agree

[rough tartan]

After this dlc we aint seeing them in a long while

[meager valley]

Hopefully Mongolia will be a single country pack eventually

Like Czech

[meager valley]

Might be in pass 3 you never know

[rough tartan]

Also the commie path is so slow

For japan

[meager valley]

If HOI4 lasts that long 😭

[rough tartan]

I had more fun with the democratic one

[gentle marsh]

hmmmm

[meager valley]

The jump in price from $25 to $30 probably is to recover the losses from GOE

[rough tartan]

I hope so, i want to restore that mongol empire

[meager valley]

Same

[hoary mortar]

hey

[meager valley]

Mengiang and Mongolia getting ignored is disappointing

[rough tartan]

They could have recovered the money if they made a decent dlc

[hoary mortar]

have a nice weekend bozos

[meager valley]

Almost like GDR and NSB sold well and reviewed well

[rough tartan]

Mengiang gets new spirits

But their focus tree is literally inside the japanese one

[meager valley]

Yet Korea and Mongolia didn’t even get portraits 😭

[rough tartan]

Like wtf

[rough tartan]

I believe communist korea gets kim jong il

[meager valley]

Like bro they could’ve atleast had Kim and Syg images

[meager valley]

The leader, not the portrait

[inner iron]

Atleast we have a releasable Taiwan /s

[rough tartan]

Sad

[meager valley]

This is true

[rough tartan]

I hope they make the commie path faster

Too many 70 days focuses

At least the civil war can be made easier

[meager valley]

I mostly like China. Think the warlord flavor is enough. Wish Manchuko got more. But I enjoyed PRC and KMT, as well as the new states.

But Mongolia, Korea and Mengiang kinda just getting ignored left a bad taste in my mouth. Especially for the increase in price from GDR at $25 to the now $30

I almost feel like this had less noticeable content than GDR yet is more money

[rough tartan]

My poor manchuko💔

[ocean mirage]

i still cant do gengis khan path in my vanilla hoi4 game😭😭😭😭

[rough tartan]

got the little bits

[meager valley]

I genuinely was most hyped for Manchuria just to find out it got a smaller rework

[rough tartan]

Why can’t i reform the qing dynasty with a good focus tree

[grand wolf]

The korea borders need to be fixed for historical purposes

[safe wing]

Same

[rough tartan]

Puyi we will avenge you

[meager valley]

Yeah I don’t know why they didn’t just rework it

[rough tartan]

Really like this was supposed to be a china rework

[inner iron]

Last time I played in Asia, I spotted Manchukuo having 5 medium tank divisions and 10 light tanks and shocked to see them fully equipped

[meager valley]

It’s one of the few monarchist paths in the entire game that would make sense to put a lot of energy into. Yet they barely touched it 😭

[rough tartan]

And as far as i remember manchuko is counted as china

[safe wing]

It is

[dim agate]

naval invading the UK feels significantly more difficult now

[fading elk]

Current progress on the invasion of Italy

[meager valley]

Like monarchist Scandinavia and South America, which never existed in WW2. Have more content than an actual monarchist nation that existed and has the potential to be one of the coolest

[fading elk]

Sadly the rebel Italy took most of yugo which I needed

[rough tartan]

Feels impossible in late game without paratroopers help

America is gonna give me cancer

Tried one time and got all my army destroyed

[safe wing]

Anyways my Gasmuli crossbowmen are shredding the Georgian army rn

[rough tartan]

So real

I hope someone makes a manchuko mod

[inner iron]

It's pretty easy to wipe out british and american screens patrolling with a speed light cruiser fleet

[meager valley]

Tbh I would’ve rather Manchuria got content than Phillipines

Phillipines should’ve gotten it alongside Siam, Indonesia etc

[safe wing]

Same

[rough tartan]

I mean naval invading, with the new system you can just send a lot of marines

[rough tartan]

Idem

[meager valley]

The devs even said they want dlc to have a more palatable scope. Yet do this 😭

[inner iron]

Never had issues since I always use cas to break in

[rough tartan]

Nobody playing the philipines

[dim agate]

i just tried in 1940 as Imperial Germany and the whole Kaiserlicthe Marine got sunk, i have 100% air superiority but i forgot to research paratroopers

[gentle marsh]

why does the 2nd american civil war happen

[meager valley]

Why didn’t they just give Mengiang a warlord tree?

[rough tartan]

I might try again later with japan

[dim agate]

what cruiser design are you using?

[ripe slate]

They couldve split off like 5 focuses from the Japan tree into Menjiang which Road to 56 does, except they broke border wars by puppets

[buoyant lodge]

never steal the balkans from me again mf

[rough tartan]

Also why tf is china so weak and gets that terrible recruitable populationdebuff?

[inner iron]

Japan has plenty of carriers to have like 150-200 cas stacked on an island you're invading

[meager valley]

They want every country to start terrible now so you have to slowly buff them

[rough tartan]

But china gets the worst treatment

Also this debuff is only for them

[meager valley]

Bc corruption ig?

[meager valley]

It wasn’t terrible for me bc India starts way worse

[rough tartan]

You can fix the india one faster

[inner iron]

Atleast cruiser 2, ideally 3 with light batteries stacked, no armor for max speed

[meager valley]

Can you?

[inner iron]

Sometimes I make heavy cruisers or battlecruisers with heavy guns and secondary battery mix

Secondary on every possible slot while rest is heavy guns

[rough tartan]

Yes

[meager valley]

Has anyone used sub carriers yet?

[dim agate]

so the same you use with the main fleet, just with no armor?

[rough tartan]

Also paradox should stop trying to make projects for 50s

[inner iron]

Yea they're just designed to wipe out destroyers and light cruisers and then bail out

[rough tartan]

At that point there’s too much lag

[inner iron]

They're not meant to attack main fleets

[meager valley]

Was hoping sub carriers would start with like 3 plane max (ik 5 is current max) then work their way up to like 10-20 through research

Similar to how you can improve the one bomber carrier

[inner iron]

When Britain goes low on screens, you can overwhelm their actual task forces

Same for the US

Destroyers will torpedo the hell out of them

[meager valley]

Are torpedo cruisers worth now?

[inner iron]

Not really

Waste of research

[meager valley]

Wouldn’t they be kinda OP convoy raiders

Bc cruiser speed and torpedo spam

[inner iron]

Subs exist, and prolly already researched

I would use that research somewhere else

[rough tartan]

Why is the italian ai so incompetent sometimes, had to bail them out 2 times in africa

[meager valley]

Missionlinis

[ocean mirage]

-adolf hitler 1941

[inner iron]

Plus light attack light cruisers have the same effect on convoy raiding as torp cruisers

[meager valley]

Tbh I hate the mechanic of forcing players to do missions or face penalties

Feels way too railroaded

[inner iron]

They can still stack wipe 50 convoys in a battle

[ocean mirage]

missiolinis are easy though theyre free buffs

[meager valley]

Not always, and they also can give debuffs

[ocean mirage]

which one r hard in ur opinion

[inner iron]

Build 500 tac bombers, thanks baldie

[meager valley]

If I’m focused on one sector then they’re like “Spam out 420 destroyers” when I’m trying to focus air

[rough tartan]

Also italy doesn’t really have it’s own unique thing

[ocean mirage]

fair enough i guess i got lucky in my italy games and only got the strengthen the airforce and intelligence missions

[meager valley]

They have pretty good mountaineers no? And they get pretty good acclimatization buffs

[ocean mirage]

?????

[tepid crown]

Torp destroyers

[ocean mirage]

theyre the best air major

[rough tartan]

I mean mechanic like

[meager valley]

They always want me to make a ton of ships, fight wars I’m not ready for, or spam Strat bombers

[rough tartan]

Nvm

[rough tartan]

Italo balbo?

[tepid crown]

Depends for what, pretty sure Germany has the best range MIO while USA has the best for heavy fighters

[ocean mirage]

no like they have thermojet research focus and citta di l area

[meager valley]

I was under the impression Italy was supposed to specialize in unique environments to fill gaps where Germany struggles. Bc German supply and tanks suck in deserts/mountains. Italians don’t

[ocean mirage]

u get 1940 top planes so early

[meager valley]

But in practice Italy doesn’t help lol

[ocean mirage]

for rapid fighter production italy is the best

[meager valley]

Italian Navy and Air buffs are pretty good tbh

[ocean mirage]

what wars bro??? I didnt even know they give u wars

[rough tartan]

If i need to be honest i never did those, i might do a proper italy run

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[ocean mirage]

and also pope has the golden wind focus which is soooo op

[meager valley]

Will be like “Take this territory or lose 10% stability”

[inner iron]

Japan has a strong range mio too, people are just hardstuck on agility mitsubishi

[ocean mirage]

r u talking about albania

[tepid crown]

Range is more important than agility

[cedar lance]

guys

[meager valley]

Italy is good at navy, god at air, and good at special forces

[cedar lance]

hello

[meager valley]

Can be a potent mix

[meager valley]

Mark

[tepid crown]

Attack/defense stats, then range

[meager valley]

Hello

[rough tartan]

I just spammed subs and used infantry 💔

[cedar lance]

hello aswell Op

[meager valley]

Just more fun the other way imo. Building a proper navy is rewarding

[tepid crown]

I think Uk still can have best navy and special forces. Don’t know how much the dlc changed that

[meager valley]

Like if you secure the Mediterranean it feels good

[rough tartan]

Im gonna do a proper op italy later

[cedar lance]

hey Op

[rough tartan]

Want to see their true potential

[meager valley]

Hey mark

[cedar lance]

i bought the NCNS DLC expansion

[inner iron]

Italy in mp games is literally the infantry swarm, going mass mob doctrine

[meager valley]

Same

[tepid crown]

Sfp now

[buoyant lodge]

LOL i guess my airforce was slightly superior

[cedar lance]

is it good imo Op?

[meager valley]

Idk, Germany and Italy get pretty freaking strong special forces

[rough tartan]

I never do mp games

[wicked cipher]

90277639947278341

[meager valley]

In my opinion or yours

[cedar lance]

your

[inner iron]

I'm 2 years behind but eh I barely play mp anyway

[rough tartan]

Idk the meta and how to play some nations

[tepid crown]

UK should still have better stats with them because I think their advisor gives like 20-25% stat boost

[tepid crown]

Doctrine rework changed all that

[hot compass]

why wont they CAPITULATE

[meager valley]

KMT, Japan, PRC can be fun. I like coal and navy reworks. Doctrine feels a bit bloaty and unbalanced.

But Philippines feels similar to Congo, where I just won’t touch it. Warlords are alright but can’t compete as easily as the majors.

And honestly Mongolia, Korea, Mengiang could’ve gotten trees

[rough tartan]

So now what is the best doctrine combination?

[tulip thorn]

I like the idea of coal

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[meager valley]

Like Asa gets a tree in BBA, but Korea/Mongolia can’t in this?

[tulip thorn]

But dont like how it works right now, and how little of it is on the map

[cedar lance]

i mostly like the NEW special projects

[tepid crown]

Depends, gbp is still the best for attack based divisions

[rough tartan]

They could have totally made a korea puppet for a focus tree

[meager valley]

I wouldn’t want more coal added. But rather ways to offset it with oil and refineries

[inner iron]

For defence, it's mass mob for me, later I switch to sfp

[rough tartan]

Got it

[cedar lance]

i really wished they added a FLEET CARRIER

[tulip thorn]

I think it should be a little more spread out

But not add more

[meager valley]

Agreed. Similar to Italian east Africa even. Or Vichy France

[inner iron]

If you don't use arty at all, then gbp

[cedar lance]

Hey Op do you wanna see a fleet carrier Special project

[meager valley]

They should have a new law just for energy. Where you can be full coal, partial oil, or like half oil. Which would be costly for some, but for nations like Iraq very useful

[inner iron]

And either do special forces or tanks with planning bonus stacked

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

I also think the balkans should have a little more coal and italy

But thats about it

[meager valley]

The fact oil has no bearing on energy is disappointing

[meager valley]

Agreed

[tulip thorn]

Indeed

[cedar lance]

@meager valley

[meager valley]

I saw fleet carriers and sub carriers. Haven’t used either yet

[cedar lance]

alr

[meager valley]

I’d still rather make full carriers. But tbh fleet carriers are good at securing larger areas bc cheaper

[cedar lance]

i do like the SPs

[inner iron]

A lot of the oil on the map isn't even actual oil but shale oil which is way more suitable for power generation

[rough tartan]

Also paradox not adding any tech to expand coal energy production

[inner iron]

Shale oil is way too dirty to power any engines

[meager valley]

Basically fleet carrier you make to support patrol groups so you can cover more territory. Whereas full carrier Moreso meant to engage enemy fleets

[meager valley]

I think HOI2/HOI3 had this believe it or not

[tulip thorn]

Fleet carriers are great for patrols

I use them almost every game

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[tulip thorn]

I always have a main fleet, and a really good patrol fleet

[rough tartan]

Paradox forcing me to micromanage instead of just grouping my navies all together

[inner iron]

I just know that because the US has the biggest shale oil production in the world but it's listed in hoi4 as just oil

[meager valley]

The way people couldn’t comprehend coal though makes me worry about adding oil types

That’s why I’m just like add an Oil law that lets you offset coal with oil.

That way minors can build refineries

[inner iron]

And Northwestern Russia sits on a massive shale oil region, overlapping to Estonia

But somehow, Estonia gets oil in it's focus

[meager valley]

Would be awesome to have

[viscid stirrup]

i hate the idea of coal

its jujst absurd and ridiculous

i should be able to use blood from humans to power factories

[rough tartan]

What is your opinion on communist japan?

[meager valley]

Average Aztec mindset

[viscid stirrup]

i love it

its wonderful

[rough tartan]

I personally like them even tough their focus tree is long

[viscid stirrup]

beautiful

[tulip thorn]

Havent played it

[tepid crown]

Heard democratic Japan is better

[tulip thorn]

Democratic and monarchist japan are fun

I love monarchist japan

[meager valley]

Why doesn’t my humans sacrifices generate enough k’ul to run my industry 😔

[rough tartan]

When you do get control of the shout

[tulip thorn]

Love the monarch larp

[meager valley]

Can monarchist core Asia?

[inner iron]

Or just have the MD system of industry fuel consumption for power generation

[rough tartan]

You basically get the euorpean colonies for free

[tiny iris]

Did they fix the path?

[inner iron]

Would be fine with that

[tulip thorn]

no

I just like the monarch larp

[meager valley]

As long as they leave out the economy

[rough tartan]

Very fun but too many 70 days focuses

[tulip thorn]

Its just like playing historical japan but not fascist

[inner iron]

Fair

[meager valley]

No, your Chinese Allie’s still can deny you supply so you can never take China

[rough tartan]

Democratic japan all the way

[inner iron]

Democratic Japan is cheesy cause you just puppet people with pp and then core them

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[cedar lance]

how many of the OLD and NEW special projects like naval should i use

[meager valley]

Haven’t tried yet. Wanted to do the Buddhist path but communist China denied me all supply despite being in my faction. So anytime I landed it China it gave the land to them and I couldn’t supply

Ruined my run

[tepid crown]

SHBB. That’s…..that’s about it

[rough tartan]

How is the buddhist path like?

[meager valley]

I quite like the new support ships. They’re cheap so I just put them into every fleet

[meager valley]

Gets like .07-.1 daily compliance. It’s cracked

[rough tartan]

Can you still core all of asia?

[cedar lance]

i like The old and new naval special projects

[meager valley]

I’m not sure, didn’t get that far. All I know is one focus gave you 0.02 daily compliance, another 0.05 daily, and I think an advisor .05. So every like 8-9 days your compliance goes up 1%, which is insanely strong

[inner iron]

Max compliance on garrison duty for the most possible resources comically outscales the resources you get compared to having it just cored

[meager valley]

Also your name is like Jubokuko or something

So that’s cool

[rough tartan]

Mmhhhh

[inner iron]

You pretty much squeeze out way more resources than you should be

Good for coal scaling

[meager valley]

That level of compliance gain gets you to 100% compliance while also on max law

It’s busted

[rough tartan]

Damn

Im gonna try it after trying to gain all cores as communist japan

[meager valley]

People really need to not sleep on compliance gain

[inner iron]

I used that compliance cheese on Bulgarian patriarchy path

[meager valley]

Like the 0.1 daily 😂

Busted

Bulgaria is actually so strong

[inner iron]

And getting more resources than having it cored

[rough tartan]

I heard bulgaria is very op

[meager valley]

Yeah bc cores Balkans and has OP compliance gain

So 50ish mil core, and insane compliance gain

I like that Carlist Spain has daily compliance gain too now

I think anarchism and fifth Portuguese empire should too

[inner iron]

Philippines gets a 10% extra compliance from it's focus too which is fine

[rough tartan]

For the philippines you basically have to ally either to the japanese or the usa, you ain’y surviving alone

[inner iron]

I survived alone

I did the independence war by myself and sat on my island for a year

[rough tartan]

Also while im distracted they killed all my garisson

[meager valley]

I survived alone too. It’s kinda easy to defend

[hidden gull]

medium tank template for 1939 ger?

[rough tartan]

I mean expanding

[inner iron]

You cheese the independence war with your latin american allies getting dragged to your faction

The US will be busy with them

Then you peace out and keep annexing them and get cores

It's free expansion

[rough tartan]

Doing the hispanic path?

[inner iron]

Yup

If you support the correct side in the spanish civil war, you also get them as an ally

And a potential to annex and core them

[rough tartan]

Might do this now

[inner iron]

Each latin american ally is 35pp to invite

Make sure you have enough invited before you do your independence

And you can keep inviting more while at war

More annoyance to the US

They pretty much will ignore you fully

I never was naval invaded

[silent root]

DAMN

[inner iron]

One way I was able to ignore the Philippines military tree was just buying equipment off the market

I had 18 divs deployed when independence kicked off

While still having that ridiculous -95% output debuff lmao

My economy was all just civs and dockyards

Pointless to rush it if you're just producing garboleum basic rifles

[tepid nova]

Im kinda tired of germany being so weak, even if I turn their strength up
Like, they always just run out of equipment, manpower or do dumb shit, the ai is so bad

[inner iron]

Like in real life

[tulip thorn]

Thats why I tag swap to germany, I pop a give_latest_equipment 9999999

[tepid nova]

Germany had ample supplies of most things except fuel until stalingrad, im in 1942 rn and they dont got shit ✌️

[tulip thorn]

Make them very powerful for the fun of it

[inner iron]

1942 germany still had horses doing their logistics

Says quite a bit about their equipment

[tulip thorn]

Horse is king

[tepid nova]

Yea cus they didnt have any fuel
Like it was so bad, germany measured fuel in liters, not barrles

[inner iron]

Plus Germany also ran out of steel

[tepid nova]

Entire german offensives/attacks relied on capturing fuel depots

[tepid nova]

Not at the start, all this started after they began overengineering and making the most expensive equipment to date

[tulip thorn]

Germany should have done a full collab on the ussr fr fr

[tepid nova]

Here is a chart

Like this is why they ran out of shit

The price is due to resource cost and time to build

[raw shale]

anyone wanna play co-op just chill?

[inner iron]

They started overengineering stuff cause they didn't have enough steel for cheap mass production

[frosty elk]

Hello! New to the game, have been looking at youtube videos trying to udnerstand it all but its a bit overwhelming. Anyone care to help a noob out?

[tepid nova]

If Hoi4 gets stable multiplayer, then yes ✌️

[raw shale]

[ocean mirage]

Do we have the same germany

[tepid nova]

Thats not the full reason, germany has just always overengineered stuff, its kinda their thing
Even today when making new weapons they often have to scale back their designs because its just too complex

[raw shale]

watch a guide for germany and play through with it and u will understand

[tulip thorn]

Hoi4 mp is fun

Comp hoi4 mp is fun

[ocean mirage]

I went communist greece and germany atomized ussr and even formed greater germanic reich

[tulip thorn]

pve is lame

[tepid nova]

I hope not 😭 Because at least it gives me hopes of germany having some strength

[raw shale]

it just takes so loong 7 hours is too long

[frosty elk]

I've always seen italy as first country. Is germany better?

[ocean mirage]

while i dealt 1m casualities to acis

axis

[tulip thorn]

Usa is a way better starting nation

[tepid nova]

226 military factories germany, with no lack of resources, yet they are in 30K gun deficit ✌️ This sucks

[inner iron]

Modern day Germany's pride and joy is literally an anti air cannon that can be retrofitted to every single older vehicle in NATO stockpile to counter drones

[raw shale]

italy is simpler

[inner iron]

That sounds cheap and basic to me

Opposite of overengineered

[frosty elk]

Im looking for a starting nation for learning

[ocean mirage]

italy

[tulip thorn]

USA

[raw shale]

italy is good

[raw shale]

follow a guide

[tepid nova]

I know, but they still overengineer stuff, and they just always have, its in german design philosophy, especially during world war 2

[tulip thorn]

Italy is not the best beginner nation

They start at war

Army, navy and airforce debuffs

[tepid nova]

Best beginner nation lowk hear me out, Canada ✌️

[tulip thorn]

Usa and canada are great

[raw shale]

yeah its good cuz of that u get to get into the action right away

[tepid nova]

USA too much going on for a beginner

[frosty elk]

Any particular guide recomended?

[ocean mirage]

u work ur way to fix them, also u learn everything at once

[raw shale]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3556388157

[frosty elk]

Thanks!!

[raw shale]

smthn like this

you can follow one on yt too

i can help u if u want in a bit like 20 mins what dlc do u have?

[inner iron]

My best way of learning hoi4 back then was playing an axis minor and supporting the soviet front

[tepid nova]

The market place is so forgotten late game, but if they added the ability to sell ship and technology, like designs It would be better

[tepid nova]

I literally just sat with my mouse over every ui element and read what it did

so painfully boring but it worked

[meager valley]

Or sell ships tbh

[tepid nova]

Yea like
"I got 8 early battleships which I dont need, and they are damaged, I will just sell them"

So much better

[ocean mirage]

u aint a real player if u dont have 300 games played as hungary

[tepid nova]

and then reworking the requirements for maket access, beacuse 10 positive relations is way too much, many nations start with -10 in most countries

[inner iron]

I sometimes spam it to buy tac bombers and navs from there since I typically mass produce fighters and cas

[meager valley]

Ngl I prefer old Hungary 😭

[ocean mirage]

yea same it was much simpler

[tepid nova]

I might steal this strat

[inner iron]

Those shitty navs can still ruin subs and I'm usually too lazy to setup a fleet to seek subs

I always have glass cannon fleets to deal with main taskforces

[tepid nova]

Just release Hoi5 already

[tepid crown]

And also not enough

[tepid nova]

I dont need no Czechoslovakia focus tree, I just need urabn combat, artillery attacks and more depth in naval combat

[meager valley]

So they can give us another extremely incomplete game and I can spend another $500

[tepid nova]

Hoi4 devs when it comes to deciding whether to rework USA Focus tree, or add Czechoslovakia focus tree

[shut wing]

What is the best mod to play mongolia?

[tepid nova]

They can have my money

[tepid nova]

Has anyone ever asked this

Idk, Road to 56?

[meager valley]

As time goes on I grow less willing to give paradox money.

[tepid nova]

I dont know any mods that add mongolian focus trees 😭

[tulip thorn]

idk like kaiserredux

[inner iron]

Millennium dawn

Get invaded by china

[tepid nova]

Same, I didnt buy the middle east DLC, or South america one.. Weirdly enough though both are in my game for some reason

[tepid crown]

I’m also worried they’ll ruin what USA already has too

[inner iron]

What's there to even ruin in the US

The non hist straight up sucks donkey balls

[tepid crown]

Air

[ocean mirage]

Love sending spies to ruin americas democracy and not letting them do arsenal of democracy👅👅

[tepid crown]

They get great medium frame tech rush

[tepid nova]

To be fair though, I think out of all countries The USA would be least likely to go anything other than democratic, but I get what you are saying

[inner iron]

Least likely but fdr had semi decent ties with socialists due to similar views in economy

[tepid nova]

Because FDR was awesome

[inner iron]

Yea he worked outside the box

[tepid nova]

Mind you he had polio ✌️ Man was wheelchair stuck, and still grew the US GDP during the largest war in human history

[inner iron]

He managed to pull out the most supposedly communist economic reforms but not being communist

[split fulcrum]

someone please help

ive been trying to capture warsaw

for SIX MONTHS

[tepid nova]

Give it up man, its not that valuable

Just like

Go around

[ocean mirage]

why r u pushing through the river just encircle

also r those light tanks

[split fulcrum]

yes

[tepid nova]

Spearhead, just trust the process 🔥

[ocean mirage]

amen🙏🙏

[inner iron]

Make a bridge to warsaw out of all the dead germans

[ocean mirage]

rip

[tepid nova]

im pretty sure you could fill the entire river/build a damn to block it with them

[tepid nova]

6 months of straight attacks, you're casualties have to be high 🙏 I see you are running out of Motorised equipment

[inner iron]

Tanks are just a pipe dream in his army

[tepid nova]

Steiners army ✌️

[tepid nova]

No way bro

[ocean mirage]

poor two unfortunate tanks😭😭😭

[inner iron]

Watch him smash into the magnum line

[tepid nova]

How do you fail to cap poland

[split fulcrum]

YOOOOOHOOOOHOOOO

[tepid nova]

DIdnt you do molotov deal

[split fulcrum]

no

[tepid nova]

Ive always been so dissapointed in this popup 😭 Its so empty

"Italy sends military support, beacuse they like you.. but its not much:D"

[inner iron]

Best popup for any shitty minor

I had that pop 10 times as China

Saving my bacon

[ocean mirage]

When you playing baath iraq and italy sends you 2500 guns you are in heaven

[tepid nova]

The AI is getting too easy nowdays, my first game as china in new DLC, I had the japanese out by 1940

[inner iron]

I was playing Yunnan specifically

[split fulcrum]

dude

[tepid nova]

nvm

gg

[split fulcrum]

i dont even have 30 hours on the game

[tepid nova]

Ooooooooh...

Twin

What are you DOING playing germany

[split fulcrum]

fighting in warswa

[tepid nova]

Let me take a wild guess aswell.. The templates are the default german start templates?

[ocean mirage]

losing in warsaw

[inner iron]

I wanted to go for Yunnan cause long yun has 10% resource gain and dang it had impact when I unified China

[split fulcrum]

wrong

theres no template

[ocean mirage]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[tepid nova]

Attacking with hopes and dreams

Graveyards of empires DLC so trash, I got it for free and I still didnt play any of the nations

[inner iron]

He went for the el salvador strat of every division a battalion

[tepid nova]

Power of friendship ahh division

[ocean mirage]

trust me fgo afghanistan and use the elephant templates

its so fun

[inner iron]

I went gandhi India and managed to snowball to 300 civs

Imagine the coal deficit if I did that rn

[tepid nova]

I like the Coal mechanics as is rn actually

[ocean mirage]

i wish there was a santa clauss advisor that would give u 400 coal

[ocean mirage]

??????

[tepid nova]

I always hated how every country be having 500 factories by 1943

[ocean mirage]

go form rome in 1941 and see for yourself how u have NO coal to do anything

even if u traded for all the coal in the world

[inner iron]

Each Baltic minor randomly having 70-100 factories in a country of like 2mil people

Who's manning those factories

[tepid nova]

just do this

Take them for your self

[inner iron]

Well that's the obvious path

But like whenever they're left alive, they get to ridiculous factory levels

You randomly see Latvia sitting there with more factories than Brazil

[tepid nova]

Im used to paradox selling broken buggy DLCs for tripple A prices, it was no surprise Coal was gonna break stuff

[tepid nova]

Latvians just got that dawg in them

[inner iron]

They're producing a shitload of potatoes in their factories

[viscid stirrup]

holy guacamole thats a good idea

[tepid nova]

Using potatoes as fuel for the fires

[viscid stirrup]

guys im making a horrible incomplete game with 6700 dlcs that make it slightly better

[inner iron]

Instead of bombs, they drop hot potatoes off their planes

[viscid stirrup]

the dlc and games cost 5000 each

buy it now

[tepid nova]

Given enough velocity, and godly aim, im sure that would do something

[ocean mirage]

doesur game have coal

[viscid stirrup]

no

[ocean mirage]

im buying

[viscid stirrup]

guys trust me god is on my side

even if the other monarch says that gods on his side dont listen to him

[split fulcrum]

im savescumming

[viscid stirrup]

clearly gods on my side

[inner iron]

And their tanks are just oversized potatoes with a hatch in it, rolling into battle like a kugelpanzer

[ocean mirage]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[viscid stirrup]

how do you lose to flipping poland

[sudden thistle]

It takes skill to make this happen

[tepid nova]

Im so dissapointed the world didnt save more WW2 machinery, like we only got a handful of flyable aircraft, and working tanks

[ocean mirage]

spearhezd into warsaw believing god is on ur side

[viscid stirrup]

bro all the machienry broke after we tried to recolonize colonies

in africa

and genocided several peoples to near extinction

(algerian war of independance)(vietnamese war of independance)

[inner iron]

90% of them are t34's

[tepid nova]

They made over 50 thousand shermans, but like a few dozen, maybe 200 still work

[inner iron]

I'm pretty sure a shitload of shermans also ended up in Latin America, some still in service

[tepid nova]

And that was ONLY because the USSR modernized it and shipped it off to every commie in the world

[inner iron]

The Russians supposedly still have thousands of them rotting in warehouses

[potent zinc]

yaaay

[tepid nova]

I dont think they are still in service, I think the oldest US tank still in service around the world is the M60 Patton

[tiny iris]

Guys, my brain tells me that it doesn't want to play HOI4.
How do I force it to play?

[tepid nova]

Oh yea definetly, russia has thousands of tanks in storage from the soviet union, thats why ukraine war is still seeing tanks even after 3 years

[inner iron]

Uruguay, Paraguay and Central America sat on shermans for a long ass time

[hollow narwhal]

is this fast 💀

[tepid nova]

You dont

Dont play hoi4

[hollow narwhal]

it does not know best.
YOU know best.
PLAY HOI4!

[bronze mango]

Ew direct annexation

[inner iron]

Direct annexation is gud if it's collab government

[hollow narwhal]

well im 5% away so

[bronze mango]

Still ugly

[hollow narwhal]

but i might just keep them annexed

cuz i need that coastline..

[honest glacier]

can i core mainland asia as fascist japan

[sturdy forge]

That exploit where you spam 1-width infantry, then convert them into 40-width divisions without equipment essentially creating manpower only units. How effective are they as a last-ditch defensive tactic for the Soviet Union? Has anyone tested?

[tepid nova]

I also always wanted more population mechanics in Hoi4, like propaganda for war support, rations for the soldiers and food reserves for people, and options for education, birth programs etc, to exand the civil part of you're country

[inner iron]

They despawn when they fully run out of equipment

Which means all manpower goes poof

[hollow narwhal]

if u have enough guns then maybe lol

[civic chasm]

I absolutely hate HoI4 AI

I was playing fascist Austria and got guarantees from Italy, the UK, and the USA

[hollow narwhal]

ok well did u look at the date at least

[civic chasm]

I was smug when I refused Germany’s Anschluss because I thought the Italians would carry my defence

But nope, instead I get steamrolled to Vienna and Graz without the Italians sending a single unit

The only unit they sent was a single tank division which arrived just a day before German forces captured Graz and capitulated me

[inner iron]

Were you even in the same faction

[civic chasm]

No

[inner iron]

No wonder then

[civic chasm]

How so

[bronze mango]

Cool I guess, still ugly

[civic chasm]

They were in the war against Germany

They had military access

[inner iron]

They won't reinforce you as much if you're not directly allied

[bronze mango]

Didn't even bother to give mengjiang is land

[prisma zealot]

hey guys, is it possible to nuke a place, using missiles, without götterdammerung ?

[civic chasm]

Ugh, how annoying

Would’ve been great if the damn AI could’ve at-least spared just like 10 divisions

[shrewd hill]

hey guys, is the 'Master Infiltator' achievement for Communist China bugged?

[inner iron]

I would've just given up the western portion of your country so they would directly border the Italians

And just bunker in Vienna

[civic chasm]

How would I do that?

[inner iron]

They have a one province gap in the alps

[civic chasm]

Ah you mean bunker down at mountain choke points and let the Germans border Italy?

Guess I’ll try that next time

Now I realise it was quite idiotic of me to not keep my troops at mountain choke points from the get-go

Probably was cocky about Italian support

Oh well, that’s one lesson I’ve learned

[tepid nova]

There is 1 thing in this world that I HATE

The Border wars you get when playing as USSR or Japan
Im just trying to have a frontline, and it keeps kidnapping my troops

[hollow narwhal]

what

[ocean mirage]

hey bro you only paid 30$ for this dlc if u want it to work you have to pay 10 more bucks

[hollow narwhal]

i actually use the subscription lol

also my steam is 40% cheaper cuz regional pricing

[ocean mirage]

subscription is so underrated

[hollow narwhal]

ikr

[ocean mirage]

3$ a month for every single dlc is👅👅👅

[shrewd hill]

every time

without fail

PDX release a DLC

and it has a bugged achievement

[tepid nova]

I dont achievemnt hunt beacuse like 250+ achievements is so unberably incomprehensible to me

[shrewd hill]

it's like they do it on purpose to ruin the lives of people with no lives going for achievements

[viscid stirrup]

duh,they stopped maintaining them

[shrewd hill]

I mean, it was feasible when I started

[hollow narwhal]

lmao i beat china too quickly 💀

[viscid stirrup]

not true

you defeated china just in time

[hollow narwhal]

so ur only supposed ot get this vs the allies? 💀

[tepid nova]

Germany ai so easy I gave them 75% boost on production
30% boost on efficiency cap, and efficiency gain
And 30% non core manpower boost

[tepid nova]

I started too late

[shrewd hill]

is China even a major at the start of the game?

Idts

[hollow narwhal]

they have a faction

[shrewd hill]

yeah but France doesn't start without a faction but to say they're not a game start major would be wrong

[hollow narwhal]

but they are-

[shrewd hill]

idk man, they don't get a portrait

[opal citrus]

i left my pc on overnight

[wintry swan]

yo

does the nothing personal adolf achievement work

[shrewd hill]

I knew it

[wintry swan]

cuz i literally just did it and it didnt give me it and im on ironman

[shrewd hill]

should be, I have it

[tepid nova]

left you're PC overnght but still no fuel is crazy

[shrewd hill]

god, 2022

what a simpler time

[tepid nova]

anyone remember the old german focus tree?

I kinda forgot about it

Cant even remember how it looks

[split fulcrum]

what do yall think

i still havent captured warsaw