hoi4-general

[honest glacier]

he got you there

[lapis snow]

You used the inner circle tree and went strong successor?

[stuck radish]

OMG I JUST REALIZED I MISSPELLED REVOLUTIONARY

LOL

[broken pier]

I haven't even completed that

[stuck radish]

now it's better

[broken pier]

lol Idk it's weird I played historical too

[lapis snow]

Well you must’ve done something

[icy crescent]

Line artillery gives more soft attack than the base soldier.
And most spanish civil war units are made out of paper.
Thus melting them pretty good.
And you kind of want high damage, so the enemy cannot reinforce meme.

I believe in freedom of believe.
And I believe line arty good before 38
Afterwards rather bad.

[broken pier]

prob

it's whatever though I rejected the offer

[sudden thistle]

Tru

[icy crescent]

Thx, kind soul.

[eternal palm]

You do realise that your attack gets reduced by 90% by unplanned offensive right. So damage is basically 0, what matters is org and hp, again. And what does arty do? Reduce org and hp. The 2 things you want in Spain and everywhere else

So no line arty is not good for spain

[sudden thistle]

Get 90% more line arty to go over the 90% attack debuff

[icy crescent]

Don't run into unplanned defense. Wth.

[sudden thistle]

Ez win

[eternal palm]

Bruh?

Then u might aswell just sit there

[sudden thistle]

It’s everywhere

[eternal palm]

Like Spanish units are so shit

Anything kills them

[icy crescent]

Attack the planned states.

[stuck radish]

1984 ahh 🥀

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[sudden thistle]

That word is blocked?

[stuck radish]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-literally-1984-gif-15073437220075643382

[sudden thistle]

Literally 1984

[eternal palm]

Ok so lemme get this straight. You think line arty is good because its good against 6w units in planned states? But if unplanned just don't engage?

[stuck radish]

Chris do something!

[trim pike]

[bronze mango]

Can't have shit in the official hoi4 server

[icy crescent]

Otherwise if brute force with line artillery isn't working, use more brute force and more arty.

[trim pike]

Can we not

[eternal palm]

Ye I don't think it's the line arty here

[trim pike]

Lets avoid those words

[stuck radish]

it's good!

doubleplusgood!

[sudden thistle]

It’s November anyway

So we shouldn’t say the word

[stuck radish]

NonStop
Nut
November

☝️

[icy crescent]

Doesn't the word mean burglar or sth?
Damn. Thievery illegal.

/j

[sudden thistle]

This dude has a point

[bronze mango]

Villain henchman

[sudden thistle]

Oh thievery isn’t illegal then?

[bronze mango]

It really shouldn't be

[icy crescent]

Maintenance company buff please.

[sudden thistle]

No u get recon buff

[icy crescent]

Let the recon steal things.
Good idea.

[stuck radish]

Steal things uh?

https://tenor.com/view/thundercock-officer-bodycam-off-chad-thundercock-jarik-gif-5545953348826508263

[eternal palm]

Honestly yes. Make it capture the amount of IC you spend

It's so shit rn

[icy crescent]

I have yet to steal a P.1000 rat.

[stuck radish]

Ima touch someone in 5 minutes

[whole copper]

Yeah. I am playing raj. Maybe because raj is a puppet? Just after independence, I checked the law again and no garrison option was available. Maybe I am going crazy

[icy crescent]

Probably to avoid early civil war cheese.

[heavy vigil]

spread love and kindness

[eternal palm]

Impossible. Because its a quantity of 1 and basically immortal so you won't capture it

[icy crescent]

Sad.
Thx for crushing dreams.

[sudden thistle]

basically immortal

Good enough

[heavy vigil]

attrition:

[sudden thistle]

I need a trigger warning on that

[stuck radish]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-immortal-invincible-angry-where-is-omniman-gif-12301134070869383990

[tulip thorn]

What about job

[primal timber]

hitler died and everything is exploding

classic

[vague fossil]

Should I get hoi4 since its on sale

[tulip thorn]

What mod is this, TWR or TNO

[primal timber]

there's a rather big elephant in the room missing that would make it TNO

[tulip thorn]

I just realized how stupid my question was

[gleaming iron]

is there a mod that makes playing british raj overpowered

[tulip thorn]

Soviets arent disunited enough

[eternal palm]

Raj is already broken enough????

Do u want more bloat?

[tulip thorn]

Bloat is the best thing ever

[eternal palm]

Noooooooo

[tulip thorn]

YES

[eternal palm]

Is all u like funny green number 😭

It's not good for balance

Mp is in shambles rn

[gleaming iron]

i like playing raj and want to try out more raj mods

[tulip thorn]

Yes

I want big green number

+50 org, +100 breakthrough + 500 speed

[primal timber]

hungarians and romanians go together about as well as oil and water

[tulip thorn]

I love big green number

[heavy vigil]

theyre finee

there will be cope mods

[primal timber]

germans just got booted out of ukraine

[tulip thorn]

Big green number = lots of fun

[primal timber]

and oh oh dear

oh god

yeaaahhh

we should uh

do something about that

[warm otter]

burgundian lullaby plays

[bronze mango]

Who are you playing

[bronze mango]

Murica

[primal timber]

im just waiting for the

inevitable explosion of germany and ostland

what did i say

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

We all do

Bloat everyone so much it’s even

[grand wolf]

I really hate the ussr

[eternal palm]

If only it were 😭

[primal timber]

why is it green

[sudden thistle]

Because good

Trust

[warped crown]

a healthy economy has a small amount of inflation

[sudden thistle]

The axis have meh eco and great stats with overpowered leader

[eternal palm]

What 💀

[sudden thistle]

Yet we have FDR with no stats and “dislikes Germany”

[eternal palm]

Meh eco?

[warped crown]

Rather uh brave of you, Hungary

[sudden thistle]

3000 mils are decent

[eternal palm]

The leader is also not that good?

A lot of pp sure

[eternal palm]

right

[sudden thistle]

Well most recently updated countries leaders have like 80% green stats

[eternal palm]

💀

[heavy vigil]

USA is the most pathetic major

it just plays easily

[patent thistle]

and noone can touch you

japan is not even the slightest threat

[warm otter]

new update and still crashes somehow

no mods and historical

[sudden thistle]

Once they get updated I shall become a freedom dispenser

[heavy vigil]

i will nuke you as mexico

[vagrant dagger]

i guess that playthrough is done

i would attack the russians again but i whooped their ass so bad the game force white peaced me with them

[bright arrow]

Is that KX?

[vagrant dagger]

ye

[warm otter]

How is Indonesia not independent

[vagrant dagger]

i couldn't even tell you

9/10 games i play they go independent

[lavish cliff]

are you playing mongolia or china

[bronze mango]

It says Mongolian theatre in the corner

[topaz knoll]

🥀

[lavish cliff]

oh right

but yuan dynasty is technically china as well

[versed rapids]

they buffed china..

[lavish cliff]

china did not get a buff in ncns

if anything japan got a buff and now it's much harder to play china

[versed rapids]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/ncns-patch-1-17-1.1879446/

Drastically increased rewards for “Maintain Control of the (Chinese) Coastline” goal.
Drastically increased rewards for “Throw Out the Invaders” goal.

[lavish cliff]

my bad

[versed rapids]

The "Chinese United Front" faction manifest now gives up to 10% core defence the lower the manifest fulfilment is.

and more

[lavish cliff]

about time the devs realised that they buffed japan too much

[versed rapids]

was historical tho

i enjoyed it

it wasn't that op

[lavish cliff]

are you japanese by any chance

[sudden thistle]

Nuh uh

[warm otter]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi4-1-17-1-crashing-when-starting-a-game.1881400/

can anyone help maybe

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-would-you-look-at-the-time-chudjak-nothing-always-bet-on-nothing-gif-7519736555744720052

[brittle garden]

quick question for you all.... out of these 4, which 2 dlc's are worth getting the most? Arms against tyranny, Gotterdammerung, Graveyard of Empires or Trial of Allegiance?

[tulip thorn]

Arms against tyranny

[patent thistle]

imagine being sunk by a pre-dreadnought

(the rio grande do sul)

[snow rain]

I mean, when getting fired at by 200+ ships it's understandable that the pre dreadnought might cause the damaged hull to rupture

[warm otter]

I still can't play 1.17 😭

[sudden thistle]

The first 2

[icy wyvern]

How do you capture enemies things when you encircle them?

[snow rain]

Arms against Tyranny is amazing. Very solid mechanics, good focuses and almost no bugs
GTR is fine, but it's way better than the two others
GOE just don't
Trial of Allegiance, if you like shizo paths that are overpowered in a neutral part of ww2 then it's ofr you but a good mod is probably better at it

[icy wyvern]

Please help?

[warm otter]

you dont

[icy wyvern]

Did they remove it?

[snow rain]

you only do if you have "equipment capture ratio" which comes from general traits, army spirits/country modifiers or maintenance company
In almost all cases it's not worth it because of the way it's calculated. It also only applies on vicotires and offensive battles

[warm otter]

you capitulate them then you get it

[warm otter]

just capitulate them to get all

[primal timber]

germany's uhhh

looking a little worse for wear

[snow rain]

that's not what he's asking for

[primal timber]

it got even worse

[icy wyvern]

Army spirits and country modifiers?

[warm otter]

mine is worse

[warm otter]

I mean that's the way to get all of them right?

[snow rain]

they're country specific and I think the militia doctrine gives some too

[icy wyvern]

Wait wdym with country modifiers I get the doctrine part tho

[snow rain]

first of all you get 50% of stockpile
then, no that's not what he asked for. He wants to caputre equipment from encircled divisions

[snow rain]

modifiers you get from focus trees or decisions

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[patent thistle]

i only can play the DLCs because i borrow an account from a friend of mine

[warm otter]

well I've never known that you can just do that

[patent thistle]

i myself dont have the DLCs

[warm otter]

I don't have DLC's but base game keeps crashing

[primal timber]

it got even worse

[warm otter]

WHAT

[primal timber]

hitler died and europe spontaneously combusts

[copper sluice]

why do people puppet stuff when annexing is just way cooler

[cedar lance]

hello

[primal timber]

kid named garrison

[copper sluice]

bold of you to assume I know how tf this game works

[warm otter]

in my game, he got assassinated then Himmler took control and declared war on the Soviets who were helping him fight the allies

[copper sluice]

also offtopic but why do americans pronounce croissant quasson

[primal timber]

are you going to finish that croissant

[warm otter]

there's a mission for Italy to pacify Ethiopia, but if you establish the AOI (Italian East Africa) the mission gets bypassed.

[primal timber]

it got even worse

[copper sluice]

how tf does that have anything to do with anything

belenux

[primal timber]

"but wait theres more" ass civil war

[dusty ridge]

hey guys what should i upgrade to increase the time speed?
is it better CPU or SSD?

[copper sluice]

isnt it crazy how hoi4 made top 3 coldest flag designs of all time with the benelux union

[primal timber]

clausewitz really likes frying your CPU

because it uses a single core

[dusty ridge]

hum

[copper sluice]

high tech programming

[dusty ridge]

ryzen 5 3600 good?

[copper sluice]

it runs smoother on linux btw

but it will just crash at times for fun

[primal timber]

green lithuania

[gleaming iron]

cpu

[dusty ridge]

thats make a lot of sense

[primal timber]

well look who's back

[warm otter]

If you play Italy, and that's why we use puppets for Garrison

[warm otter]

how's Italy

[primal timber]

italy

[warm otter]

why is there 5 ideologies

[warm otter]

still Benito?

[primal timber]

for the moment

[warm otter]

AOI?

[primal timber]

aoi

[warm otter]

Africa Orientale Italia

[primal timber]

and

where's attlee

who's this guy

[patent thistle]

JAPAN JUST GOT MIDWAYED-

THE AGE OF THE BATTLESHIP IS NOT OVER JUST YET

[warm otter]

why the opposite happens to me

[celest dirge]

How to play as PRC? I help ROC too much and win Sino-Japanese war too soon and Chiang control all manchu industry.

[patent thistle]

let me guess you get pearl harboured?

[gaunt charm]

cryptology is crazy

[warm otter]

declare war on kenya

[warm otter]

United kingdom'd

[patent thistle]

rip

i always "hood" the UK before they can "bismarck" me

[warm otter]

my navy is struggling, but army is stronk

gonna invade Greece for the mission from benito

[patent thistle]

(joke was intendet)

[warm otter]

Germany not helping me in Mediterranean

[patent thistle]

no shit they usually build just barely 2 heavy cruisers MAYBE 3 this entire game and 2 battlecruisers

[warm otter]

I'm focusing on transport planes for paratroopers and some light cruisers

[patent thistle]

light cruiser and destroyer production is negliable with germany

[warm otter]

get naval superiority then naval invade Egypt and algeria

It did previously, I bought it during one of those sales.

[split fulcrum]

hmmm

I am playing as italy

And ive puppeted yugoslavia and albania

What should i do next while waiting for other things to happen?

[warm otter]

Rp. 169.000

[warm otter]

Why you puppet albania

[split fulcrum]

I mean

Annexed albania

Should i make them a puppet?

I have the decision to form regno d'Albania

[warm otter]

~905

[warm otter]

dont

Albania is key to invading greece

[warm otter]

Also, show map

Indonesian economy

Developer can set different prices per country

[split fulcrum]

169000rp converts to 7.69 pounds?

[woven dragon]

Did coal get an update?

[warm otter]

Rp as in Indonesian Rupiah

[split fulcrum]

I know

[split fulcrum]

My bad gang for the trash joke

[manic shoal]

Oooh it's on sale righ tnow

[warm otter]

Do the establish AOI decision

[bronze mango]

Depends on if you are going Rome or greater italy

[split fulcrum]

Greater italy

[warm otter]

where's Croatia

[split fulcrum]

I am not good enough to form rome

[bronze mango]

In which case you can

[warm otter]

liberate them then make them a reichkommistrat

then do the same with Serbia

[bronze mango]

If you are doing Rome don't cause you will need to annex them later

[warm otter]

see?

[primal timber]

well guess what

it got even worse

[warm otter]

communist germany

[split fulcrum]

i dont think its possible to increase compliance to 60% in 48 days

[warm otter]

Follow my steps

open up your national focus and show me the left side

[warm otter]

Do ministry of Italian africa

[warm otter]

How many days till the mission fails?

[bronze mango]

48 they said earlier

[warm otter]

Well making AOI takes 35+70 days

105 days

[bronze mango]

The focus is 35 so it's doable if they already did new emperor of Ethiopia

[warm otter]

@split fulcrum show me the national focus right side

[versed rapids]

what's the best width for mountaineers? whatever i want?

[warm otter]

12 with support artillery

[split fulcrum]

I didnt complete it

[warm otter]

not too much expensive

[split fulcrum]

I am doing the culto de duce focus

[bronze mango]

In which case you will lose the mussolini mission

[versed rapids]

it's only using 3k infantry and 45 support

[split fulcrum]

this

[bronze mango]

Yes that mission

[bronze mango]

You will fail it since you didn't form aoi

In time

[split fulcrum]

what is aoi

[bronze mango]

But you only lose 25 political power

[bronze mango]

Italian east africa

[warm otter]

decline

[bronze mango]

(Africa orientale italiana)

[split fulcrum]

too late

shouldve waited until germany finished off france

[snow rain]

welp, there's no one else to blame than you in this situation

[bronze mango]

Oh well I guess you are now at war with the allies

[warm otter]

say goodbye to your colonies!

[bronze mango]

If only east Africa was made

[warm otter]

AOI doesn't have troops on creation

[bold bloom]

Did the latest patch fix the bug where the newest dlc would not boot up after launching the game

[warm otter]

no

in my case

the game crashed when starting a new game

[bronze mango]

Yes but if you don't call them into the war you won't lose them

[bold bloom]

Not for me the dlc shows I don’t own it in the UI

[warm otter]

I'd recommend doing the allies path on the foreign affairs sub path then add them to war to get Djibouti easily and fend off UK troops

[bold bloom]

(Old picture)

[versed rapids]

do mountaineeers count as infantries?

[bold bloom]

Specialized infantry

[warm otter]

of course

[versed rapids]

so bonuses apply to them?

[warm otter]

let me see libya

[bold bloom]

Yes however you are limited by a cap

[warm otter]

yeah

[bold bloom]

You can’t have many of them

[versed rapids]

nah

[split fulcrum]

it is still holding

[versed rapids]

just do the glitch

[sudden thistle]

Bro

[sudden thistle]

This hurts me

[warm otter]

Tripoli about to fall, and your gonna get naval invaded

[split fulcrum]

still holding!!

[iron helm]

bro holding onto libya with hopes and prayer 😭🙏

[warm otter]

tell @split fulcrum how to Navy before he gets naval invaded!

[iron helm]

bro has insane dedication to his craft (historical italy)

🙏

[bold bloom]

I remember 10 devisions holding out for 14 months in the capital of Ethiopia

[sudden thistle]

Nope

Trial by fire

[bold bloom]

They somehow got supply

[warm otter]

this is my Italy
Germany became the burden instead

[iron helm]

just spam... wait they changed the mechanic

[warm otter]

ignore Libya and corsica

[split fulcrum]

its ggs

[iron helm]

tno ahh ocean bro

[bold bloom]

You all are noobs if you can’t do this (please help me)

[iron helm]

white finland
is white

[sudden thistle]

Sinkiang gaming

Currently making nuclear reactors and max infra everywhere

[iron helm]

they killed skibidi san ma...

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-blanket-punching-angry-gif-10848519859414615034

[warm otter]

#hoi4-general message

[warm otter]

WHAT

@split fulcrum how's it going

[iron helm]

hoi4 is so easy when you code your own decision that gives you a +9999% factory output national spirit

[sudden thistle]

It’s fun

[iron helm]

then you forgot no_ai = 1

[split fulcrum]

teach me how to navy

now

[iron helm]

with your name i'd suggest coming back down to the waters

[warm otter]

press F2

[iron helm]

switch your language to polish

[split fulcrum]

you mean going back up into space?

[iron helm]

yeah do that

[warm otter]

nie

[split fulcrum]

need help with that too

[warm otter]

oh easy

press F3

then press any plane icon

[warm otter]

then press the plus button above the general's picture

then set mission to air superiority

[iron helm]

i thought this was florida for a moment 😭🙏

[warm otter]

invade corsica

[iron helm]

lowk tho general air control sucks

i want to deploy my 90000 medium tac bombers

[warm otter]

where on earth will that happen

[zinc rune]

same same, but different

[iron helm]

chinese-german hyperwar

the chinese united front (Yugoslavia included) vs the axis

[warm otter]

how

[iron helm]

(i'm the chinese united front)

[warm otter]

German Reich joined Allies
USA joined Allies

[warm otter]

kill Japan first before you get naval invaded

[iron helm]

this is pre-ncnc btw

[warm otter]

just do it

[iron helm]

my child will make garrision divisions to guard their port

Request force

[warm otter]

wdym by that

is Japan a puppet

[versed rapids]

IRL yes

[iron helm]

i was at war with japan

bro i got the white peace deal

after that why do they just declare on me 😭🙏

[split fulcrum]

is this troop placement correct?

[iron helm]

at least i got to dominate indochina

[split fulcrum]

how rage inducing is it

[warm otter]

too much western influence

[iron helm]

omg get some cas up

focus your tanks on the coast

[versed rapids]

too much chinese influence on your part

[warm otter]

omg get some
ANGETRETTEN to help you

[split fulcrum]

what

[warm otter]

too much corruption*

[iron helm]

i don't enjoy playing as germany tbh

POLAND FOREVER RAHHH 🦅

[woven dragon]

Did you guys know the Dutch only have 3 generals they can get but lose 1 in there tree

[warm otter]

Danzig oder Krieg?

[zinc rune]

first world war but in congo

[iron helm]

don't worry i got air superiority

[warm otter]

I will call

stalinium

[frozen rock]

can some1 vc w me rn and teach me how to play the game thanks,

[iron helm]

brother

[warm otter]

can't you at least get Nice?

[iron helm]

we must stay focused

[warm otter]

anyway can you teach me how to make bridge from Sicily to tripoli

[iron helm]

idk some modding shit you do with maps

or just

`

tp

right click

tp

`

ez

[split fulcrum]

i am trying

[versed rapids]

yes i am

[iron helm]

you poor soul

[heavy vigil]

peace

[patent thistle]

can we all agree the soviet ai needs a buff?

[bronze mango]

Most certainly

[iron helm]

you can defeat the soviet union as bermontian poland if you give up danzig and you have air superiority

even 100 cas is enough

plus buffs from the plc coring focus

[warm otter]

can you get Lithuania via PLC focus?

[rare crow]

Is 21 width good for infantry?

[iron helm]

i mean in the bermontian path you have to demand lithuania before you can form the PLC

and even then you have to release it as a puppet and then do the focus

[versed rapids]

my race is clean

your isn't

[split fulcrum]

@warm otter i took nice

[eternal palm]

Woah slow down there buddy

[warm otter]

you have to do all of that before the Soviets

[warm otter]

show

[patent thistle]

thats not the point, i have not seen a single game where the soviets win against the german AI unless i personally was involved

[eternal palm]

I know you don't like to talk about the things that you did about 80 years ago but you'd do well to remember it

[versed rapids]

We didn't do anything wrong

[iron helm]

in one game i cheated in add_latest_equipment for the soviet ai and they fumbled hard

[versed rapids]

what are you talking about

[eternal palm]

RIGHT

[iron helm]

nice

[eternal palm]

Explain something to me. Where in bushido does it say it's okay to r*pe Australian nuns?

I would like to know that

[iron helm]

bro this is hoi4-general

[patent thistle]

thats because the soviets just continue to try and attack, attack, attack and attack, bleeding there equipment to the point of no return

[eternal palm]

No I just wanna know

[versed rapids]

you victim of propaganda, no one was rpd

[iron helm]

i mean yeah that's how you won as ethiopia pre-bba

[patent thistle]

and then they get overrun hard

[eternal palm]

I'm about to cite the fking source.

But sure

Weeaboo

[zinc rune]

💔

[split fulcrum]

LOL

NO WAY

[bold bloom]

I feel like there should be a better system for the Soviets historically they were pushed back to Moscow so I mean it’d be cool if Soviet Russia had attack and defense penalties for atleast a year

[cosmic pine]

Anyone here know when you can get another Branch Specialism as Japan?

[iron helm]

though imagine if russia collapsed into warlord states when there's a certain capitulation progress

[patent thistle]

they should get debuffs and then the germans get close to 1 of the four major cities they switch to buffs slowly

[warm otter]

nice, this is probably brute force

[bold bloom]

I agree

[patent thistle]

and the soviet AI should get a rework so they dont just bleed equipment

[iron helm]

who the hell going to Khabarovsk just to cap the soviets

[bold bloom]

I also think losing cities should make you lose war support overtime

[eternal palm]

Not the TNO larp 😭

Also Russia was a bit too centralised for that too happen

[patent thistle]

i think this SHOULD be priorty

[eternal palm]

Like maybe the different SSRs would've broken off?

[bold bloom]

Fixed with pp

[warm otter]

japan

[iron helm]

god forbid someone wants to see some BEAUTY (border gore) in their excel map game

[zealous nexus]

theres a mod for that

[eternal palm]

Called tno

[zealous nexus]

reichkommisariats plus with west russian war submod

[bold bloom]

I actually never really liked the mod. I tried it and decided it wasn’t for me. The lore is pretty fire tho

[iron helm]

and the fire has risen...

[eternal palm]

It's made by shady people that alone makes me not wanna play it

[zealous nexus]

just lose as the soviets and watch it happen

[eternal palm]

Aside from the UI inducing Eyecancer

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fire-rises-tfr-hoi4-hearts-of-iron-iv-hoi4tfr-gif-16978788358932586997

[zealous nexus]

they focus too much on trying to be realistic for a inherently unrealistic mod

[iron helm]

shukshin federation highk goated

[bold bloom]

The fire rises is peak all around

[zealous nexus]

did yall watch the gunther fehlinger stream

[bold bloom]

No

[iron helm]

please gunther i need this

[odd egret]

anybody know if silver coins/paper money is better for communist china?

[bold bloom]

My mom is Kinda homeless

[odd egret]

idk if the trade law limitation is worth the 15% consumer goods reduction

[iron helm]

wait have they reworked the nine power treaty for china

[patent thistle]

UK YOU ALREADY HAVE IRAQ 😭

[iron helm]

average british leisure activity

[bold bloom]

Average British side quest

Inquiry at that

[patent thistle]

i hate coal ; )

i am litterally using 33 civs just for coal 😭

[zealous nexus]

has nobody made a mod to remove coal yet

[ripe slate]

They have

[zealous nexus]

its such an unneccessary thing to add to the game wtf was paradox thinking

[grand wolf]

I never knew you could get achievements in non historical

[ripe slate]

I do like the idea of having a downside to high mobilization

[zealous nexus]

next they are gonna add homeless people to hoi4 and you have to spend 50 civs to keep them from causing damage to your infrastructure

[grand wolf]

So do I, the coal adds some difficulty

[grand wolf]

Now dont give them ideas

[iron helm]

no it's gonna be a whole balance of power mechanic

[eternal palm]

But why are you punished for being successful?

[green plume]

as america should i be running heavy fighters or just fighters

[split fulcrum]

Now

[eternal palm]

Like if u annex Russia you're 1k coal in the hole

[split fulcrum]

How do i naval invade?

[iron helm]

the right side is the homeless the left side is the real estate dealers

[eternal palm]

In a game thats all about mappainting why are you punished for it?

[grand wolf]

Just fighters make some P-51 mustangs

[iron helm]

also i wonder

[green plume]

fire

[iron helm]

given paradox's LOVE of making south america resourceless

[eternal palm]

And why is energy production exclusively coal? Didn't Gas, Oil and Hydropower exist?

[iron helm]

is there any coal in that region at all

[grand wolf]

Frrrrr best ww2 plane ever

[green plume]

p51s are goated

[iron helm]

lets not forget nuclear

[eternal palm]

Kinda can't blame them for that

It's out of scope

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/p51-p-51-mustang-fighter-plane-gif-17869862664210439035

[eternal palm]

Kind of

[iron helm]

bro its just using some hot angry rocks to boil water

[eternal palm]

Another Steam W

[patent thistle]

the japs are trying

[grand wolf]

The Japanese keep invading china and I dont like it

[patent thistle]

(i am just hunting them down)

[grand wolf]

Is invading China the only thing japan knows????

[patent thistle]

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ESCAPE

I CATCHED THEM

HELL YEAH

[zinc rune]

Excellent.

wtf, i dont look at my screen for one second and this happens

[patent thistle]

me think i fould the final japanese carriers

[meager valley]

And Africa

IMO they should lack resources initially but have a lot of room for expansion, much moreso than what they are now

[meager valley]

I prefer the P-38

[grand wolf]

This game

[meager valley]

P-51 had so many iterations but wasn’t initially the best

[iron helm]

also dont lock resources behind focuses just use decisions

[terse crater]

I have the subscription and hate the changes with latest DLC. Can I remove the DLC from my game?

[meager valley]

I don’t mind some in focuses but there need to be a lot more base decisions

[meager valley]

No, you are doomed to have it forever

[iron helm]

south america only got We have to dig deeper

[terse crater]

Seriously 🤣

[meager valley]

No, just change game version

Or disable dlc

[terse crater]

Sweet, how do I disable to DLC

[meager valley]

Guides on YouTube and Google

It’s easier to just google imo

[patent thistle]

japan had, a navy

[eternal palm]

Open launcher. Click on "DLC" Click the slider on the right side.

[versed rapids]

good divisions to invade peru?

[sudden thistle]

Train them 😭

[versed rapids]

i will

[tulip thorn]

God finland is such a fun nation

I love all the green stats

I love how its all green

[eternal palm]

They're only good to march civilians to death in the Philippines

You wouldn't know

[icy wyvern]

Just conquered Italy alone as Yugoslavia is that a pro gamer move?

[eternal palm]

Das gut

[valid solar]

@young karma

[iron helm]

get some cas too

[split fulcrum]

Half my army just got cleared in libya

18 divisions gone

23 now

[green plume]

whatre u playing asd

[split fulcrum]

Italy

I tried reclaiming libya

Succeeded

Atleast most of ot

It

Then got encircled near bengasi

[primal timber]

goebbls talm bout some "totaler krieg"

[green plume]

fire

[primal timber]

well claude i suppose you got your work cut out for you

[tulip thorn]

Italian ai has locked in

[primal timber]

heavy tank is somehow cheaper than a patton okay

[sudden thistle]

Italian AI seems to be really good since the new dlc

[tulip thorn]

Mussolini finally found his brain

[wicked haven]

Mussolini if he didn't spend the budget on the SISISISISISI house
. SISI😠SISI
. SISISISISISI

[sudden thistle]

4/4 games they have taken Egypt

[tulip thorn]

That place is peak

What u on about

Thats what almost won italy the war

[wicked haven]

imagine this but the LV orb

[tardy wigeon]

Should I buy expansion pass 2

[tulip thorn]

Peak

[wicked haven]

what's in that one again

[tulip thorn]

So peak

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[wicked haven]

dyk he declared a formal war on England and France instead of bombing them and telling them later

[tulip thorn]

Finland is fun

[wicked haven]

The noob plan yellow vs the sigma formal declaration of war in 1940

[primal timber]

T-34 and its '57

literaly unplayable

what moron would be using a T-34 instead of a T-55

[wicked haven]

what is that message

[wicked haven]

actually it was a reserve tank even during the 80s

along with the later IS series

[primal timber]

i think im roughly

equal-ish in numbers to the germans

[sudden thistle]

67

[primal timber]

keyboard tweaking

[tulip thorn]

Germany just declared war on the ussr, while the ussr has a 50k gun deficit and large deficits of all other equipment

Its over for them

[primal timber]

simple

[iron helm]

67

[cold wedge]

I'm not updating my Hoi4 anymore I'm staying at 1.16.9 or something because I don't want the coal

[primal timber]

just give all the strelkovayas brass knuckles

[tulip thorn]

That should work

[primal timber]

im only using it because i want to play twr

[tulip thorn]

I know a mod that fixes this issue

[cold wedge]

I wish mods would work on 1.16.9, I don't wanna update to coal at all

[split fulcrum]

how do i make this literally ANY faster

because i need this for a mission

[tulip thorn]

research speed

Well your cooked

[primal timber]

reminds me of when i played world ablaze

[tulip thorn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609886642&searchtext=coal

[split fulcrum]

and guess when it expires

[primal timber]

winter war

[tulip thorn]

This mod is peak

[split fulcrum]

in 166 days

[primal timber]

i suffered like 70k casualties

[split fulcrum]

and i need

167 days

[primal timber]

dealt 300k to the russians

[split fulcrum]

to research it

[fervent minnow]

y'all when will hoi4 mods work again

[tulip thorn]

When the mod devs update them

[bronze mango]

Coal really isn't bad, yall just have skill issues

[tulip thorn]

Pdx doesnt control that

[primal timber]

they just pulling anyone into here

[heavy vigil]

just make more

[fervent minnow]

what mod is this btw

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[heavy vigil]

anyway italy really got nerfed with coal

[primal timber]

the children yearn for the mines

[split fulcrum]

do you know any modifiers

[bronze mango]

Build infrastructure

[heavy vigil]

idk what the devs were thinking nerfing finland and italy

lol

[dire trellis]

Anyone know when paradox will fix mp

[bronze mango]

And it's fixed

[primal timber]

summon coal out of thin air

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3513657215

[tulip thorn]

I love the green of finland

[bronze mango]

Trade

[primal timber]

the children yearn

[tulip thorn]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609886642&searchtext=coal
Or remove it

[bronze mango]

Or get good

[wicked haven]

you have a deficit of everything by 1940

[jagged fjord]

Ngl what does the coal even do?

[wicked haven]

it's so painful

[tulip thorn]

its fuel for factories

[dire trellis]

Mp is unplayable anymore

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3611523188

[jagged fjord]

Why remove coal? Just get more.

[wicked haven]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-zoolander-movie-movie-zoolander-derek-zoolander-derekzoolander-gif-16455225249682368207

[tulip thorn]

If you dont have enough of it, construction speed and factory output are nerfed

[tulip thorn]

You need industry for that

[jagged fjord]

Coal is everywhere.

[heavy vigil]

less industry

its exponential

[primal timber]

PA and WV ain't holding up 500 factories 🙏

[jagged fjord]

I haven't had issues, just get more coal.

[tulip thorn]

I control all of the Nordics and have 7 coal

[split fulcrum]

can someone PLEASE help

[jagged fjord]

Get more.

[primal timber]

germany gets a ridiculous amount of coal from just stealing everything

shocker

[wicked haven]

the issue is that coal alone is used for energy, you don't have hydroelectric or any other form of power generation

[heavy vigil]

richer than greece

[wicked haven]

so Italy is just cooked atm

[jagged fjord]

A very european thing to do right? S T E A L

[primal timber]

staring at my commercial nuclear reactors and fuel like "go boil water you little shits"

[dire trellis]

Do nuclear reactors make coal. Useless

[tulip thorn]

Yeah ill pass on coal until either its spread out more, or my fav extra Resources mod is updated to support it

I like the mechanic, just a little broken right now due to the lack of it everywhere but major nations

[wicked haven]

the other issue for italy is no one else has coal

except the germans but I mean no one you can invade quickly

[primal timber]

i just realized napoleonic france is now stupid powerful because the west bank of the rhine has stupid amounts of coal

[dire trellis]

Yall is it better to rush china or wait?

[tulip thorn]

Is this really all the soviets can spare to guard our border

[bold bloom]

Me the other day btw

[primal timber]

they think the neva gonna save them 🙏

[tulip thorn]

Oh my

[bold bloom]

How I felt with the multitasking

[bold bloom]

However it worked

[jagged fjord]

Majority of Gen z.

[primal timber]

i remember doing a germany game once

[tulip thorn]

Fascist finland is so broken

[warm otter]

europe 1947*

[tulip thorn]

So much green number

[bold bloom]

You get multiple free divisions

[tulip thorn]

Yeah those help i guess

I always have about 48 units by the winter war

[dire trellis]

Lmao how😭

[primal timber]

from a long while ago

i just paradropped into ukraine and backstabbed the soviets

[tulip thorn]

I could literally battleplan the soviets as finland

This is sad

[dire trellis]

U played japan yet?

[primal timber]

i did like

half a game of kodoha

[dire trellis]

Ah

I wanna know if rushing china or waiting is better

[mossy rain]

So how is the new dlc?

Any good?

[tulip thorn]

You should rush them

[dire trellis]

Mid

[mossy rain]

Oof

[tulip thorn]

The longer you wait, the stronger they get

[primal timber]

im starting to think i need to ramp up my military

this isn't the work of 70 divs

[tulip thorn]

Because they will slowly fix that gun deficit

[mossy rain]

So do you guys think a hoi5 is coming out anytime soon or will they just focus on hoi4

[dire trellis]

Like rushing like gow fast

[dire trellis]

Hoi5 will not come till 2028

100%

[eternal palm]

Maybe they'll make it like eu4 and make it eternal

[primal timber]

what do you mean there's chemical warfare

[mossy rain]

🤔

[mossy rain]

But eu5 just came out do you mean like stellaris

I heard that game had some engine overhaul

Or something

[eternal palm]

After eu4 has been here for over a decade

[primal timber]

not until they can make clausewitz multi-core

[eternal palm]

What I meant was, they will make a hoi4. But it will take a few years

When did eu4 came out? Like 2012?

[mossy rain]

True

[mossy rain]

Makes sense

[eternal palm]

So 13 years for a game

Hoi4 came out in 2016

[uneven needle]

Are the 2 offmap civ factories for me or for bhutan?

[eternal palm]

So we still got like 5 years

[split fulcrum]

Bhutan pretty sure

[wicked haven]

Imagine they use unreal engine for hoi5

[mossy rain]

Imagine if hoi5 has those 3D model leaders 😂

[eternal palm]

Yaaay

Character based diplomacy

[tulip thorn]

Not enough units

[versed rapids]

why

[eternal palm]

Need at least 30000

[tulip thorn]

Mass mobilization scraping the barrel china gameplay

(Or I guess desperate defense now)

[versed rapids]

i'm just trying to defend from both the ussr and japan as china

[edgy wedge]

Nice Kim Kataguri pfp

[versed rapids]

now that's what we call an unbreakable org wall

[tulip thorn]

The humble reinforce meme:

Finland sure is fun

[compact vigil]

who wants to play mp?

[eternal palm]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[stuck lily]

so the patch notes seemed ok, i know they mentioned they're taking a look at coal and i def hope they give more ways to get it as rn it feels like there's too little in the world to work with

unless ur like USA

[viscid stirrup]

bro coal is OP

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[jagged fjord]

Bros name is just Aryan. Respect.

[fair horizon]

alright euros show me your knowledge

[jagged fjord]

Oregon.

[prisma saddle]

there will be hoi5?

[jagged fjord]

Maybe

No reason.

Most likely.

[icy crescent]

^

[jagged fjord]

If you make India beefy and contribute to Axis you'll likely be able to join.

Ngl just

[wind robin]

How to change ideologies

[jagged fjord]

Be on good terms

[jagged fjord]

Political focus's

[icy crescent]

Easiest way to get to the Axis is to be against the same enemy.

• being fascist with tension.

[wind robin]

If a country that have no political focus?

[jagged fjord]

Yeah, fight the Comintern.

And the allies.

[icy crescent]

Get a political guy with the ticking ideology support.
Then in the decision tab there should be sth like "Ideology on the rise!"
If you go for the peaceful way, go for political discourse and wait to get above 50% for the Referendum.

[wind robin]

Thanks man

Im pretty new to hoi4

Great game actually

[icy crescent]

The more cheese option is to delete your entire army and going for the civil war.
Training few horse of otherwise fast divisions and sniping your own victory points.
Tho you need to be below 50% stab for it.

[icy crescent]

It is a great game, yeah.
Don't let people distract or demotivate you easily.
Many of us really love absolute win-maxing.

[wind robin]

Its really addictive

[icy crescent]

Stay well hydrated, bro.

[wind robin]

How do i stop😭

Allies crushing me bro

[icy crescent]

I assume you're Italy?
Yeah. It looks like you didn't really guard your coast line properly.

[dense igloo]

The random things this game does lol

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-american-dad-intro-american-dad-intro-full-family-guy-seth-mcfarland-gif-13457763322853228640

[stuck lily]

lol

i will say i've had a blast playing japan since the release, just late game it always feels like im being punished for winning

literally just let civilian nuclear reactors produce coal/electricity

none of this "oh it reduces consumption" bruh it's 1950 I aint got building slots for all that

[opal nymph]

Me who sticks on partial mob because I forget to raise mobilization laws

Wins anyways

[opal nymph]

You can delete buildings you know

[stuck lily]

lol i literally keep forgetting then eventually just go down to civilian economy and still run out

[trail beacon]

Who would win? The million-strong fighting force of the Republic of China, or this lil button right here?

[stuck lily]

yeah but during wartime its limited also that's suuuuper tedious

[opal nymph]

Just delete the civs

You arent really using them by 1944 right

[stuck lily]

i mean depending, if i need to build emergency ports or supply hubs in godforsaken russia or something but yeah. Is there a way to mass delete factories? or do i need to click every single one

[opal nymph]

They wanted to cap industry, and it seems they have achieved that goal

[stuck lily]

i mean ur objectively right

but that isn't fun

[opal nymph]

They could add more supply hubs to transiberian railway

[opal nymph]

I rarely have situations where I need to build supply hubs

Sometimes I fall back to where I have supply and then rush down the next supply hub

[stuck lily]

now obv this is my recency bias due to fighting in asia recently (and a lot in siberia/east russia where it may as well be fallout levels of a wasteland)

[opal nymph]

Though the far east is exceptionally bad

[stuck lily]

or making a bunch of supply in china so i can prep to invade burma/that region where the USSR connects to china (cant recall the name rn)

but yeah i imagine for most of the world its not awful

[opal nymph]

Sinkiang?

[stuck lily]

not counting south america because who cares about south america

[opal nymph]

Yeah Asia is awful with supply

[stuck lily]

around there yeah? i think?

also that spot north of tibet that leads into USSR

[neat kayak]

Latvia has a chance to survive

thanks to the new doctrines

[stuck lily]

but also i like to be able to make an emergency port in like, alaska when i naval invade cause that port is so far inland

[opal nymph]

Well, if everyone is starving, everything is balanced

[stuck lily]

i also now have an eternal grudge vs portugal

[opal nymph]

Yeah, I had to do something like this before

[stuck lily]

i now seek to wipe them out in most games now

[opal nymph]

War over East Timor?

Or do you just hate Salazar

[stuck lily]

yup 0 warning, no "you're being justified on!" just bam, now im at war with the axis because portugal joined them then declared war on me

[opal nymph]

NO SHOT

They did their focus

[stuck lily]

it has happened to me like 2-4 times now

[opal nymph]

They did the funny eastern menace focus

Truly historical tree portugal

That is comedy

[stuck lily]

its cuz its so late game they run out of focuses

[opal nymph]

I thought the devs made it to where Portugal never takes that focus

This patch has some funny moments

[stuck lily]

i think its cause they ran out of focuses to do

[icy crescent]

^ probably real late game.

[stuck lily]

it was

i just need to remember to declare war on them early to force them into the allies so germany will take care of them for me

so i dont need to invade all of europe thru the USSR for the 5th time

[brisk summit]

damn

[runic spoke]

is the mountain artillery doctrine good now?

15% breakthrough on all mountaineers seems kinda crazy

[eternal palm]

Nah width reduction still better

[runic spoke]

makes sense

[fair horizon]

wrong, thats south oregon

[jagged fjord]

Rip.

[runic spoke]

that state doesnt exist hes foolin ya lol

fake map of the us

[fair horizon]

nice try european

you dont know anything about our country

[runic spoke]

ur probably from alaska (fake)

[fair horizon]

iowa

even more fake

[runic spoke]

yea thats pretty fake

IL for me

[fair horizon]

yeah okay buddy

[runic spoke]

but not chicago

so its the fakest part

[fair horizon]

telling me iowa is fake when you're from il smh

[runic spoke]

nah chicago is real

[split fulcrum]

Tibet?

[runic spoke]

(and sucks)

[split fulcrum]

Mongolia?

Manchuria?

Actually the Soviets dont border tibet

[fair horizon]

i hate il less than i hate nebraska if that makes you feel better

[runic spoke]

nah u can hate on il all u want tbh mid state

[split fulcrum]

Burma is current day Myanmar

[runic spoke]

only good thing we have is pizza

[fair horizon]

chicago style pizza (its just a cheese pie)

[runic spoke]

lmao fr

dude german performance in ww2 has been so underwhelming ever since new patch

i dont even see them get to minsk anymore

this is so embarrassing

anyway, new favorite tag just dropped

i love fengtian

[austere crypt]

gang I held france without forts and only infantry and now allies coming to save my ass, is ts tuff?

[runic spoke]

why do u only have 8 divs in 46 🥀

i take it back

germany made it to minsk in late 43 💟

[real flame]

10/10 new update

[sleek cypress]

wtf is going on

[sleek cypress]

bulgaria almost mentioned

[ripe slate]

@zealous nexusPlease no nazi symbols in the chat

[zealous nexus]

There is no Nazi symbol in the flag

[runic spoke]

german performance is so embarrassing

[ripe slate]

there were multiple prominently elsewhere in the screen

[runic spoke]

10m casualties to soviets

yikeees

54935843589598th battle of minsk rn

its actually like watching 2 soviet unions fight each other

[chilly mountain]

Hello everyone

I hope you are all doing great

[ripe slate]

Welcome

[cedar frigate]

Is it just me, or is march of defenders playing more often then other tracks?

[runic spoke]

groundbreaking news: germany has retaken minsk

[cedar frigate]

you are not bulgaria

[runic spoke]

indeed

it very clearly states bulgaira

[ancient marsh]

can i really not make it so area defense doesnt attack

and only holds

[runic spoke]

ima reach kiev before germany

[tall ledge]

Hi, I'm new to the game and I am wondering how to get "enough equipment to train"? I'm sorry if it's a dumb question

[runic spoke]

u gotta make it

near the top theres a button called production

its a gear with a wrench inside of it

thats where you make all your equipment

[keen phoenix]

brat shto znameto ti e na obratno?

[runic spoke]

i am not bulgarian

[keen phoenix]

ok but why upside down

[runic spoke]

misspelled the name

thought it made sense

[tall ledge]

i assigned the producing stuff but its not doing anything do i have to unpause the game for it to produce

[runic spoke]

yes

equipment produces on either a daily/monthly/weekly/yearly basis depending on how expensive it is and how many factories you have assigned to it

equipment like guns will basically always produce daily because of how cheap they are

[tall ledge]

and also to get steel imported and other stuff does it also have to be unpaused

[tall ledge]

makes sense but im playing as italy rn so if i unpause will ethiopia just invade me and i wont have any troops trained to defend

[runic spoke]

italy starts with troops

in both eritrea and somalia

you also have more in italy you can bring in to reinforce those positions

[tall ledge]

oh i do have troops

ok im starting to think this official hoi4 tutorial is shit

[tulip thorn]

it is

youtube tutorials are far better

[tall ledge]

im talking about hoi4's youtube tutorial

[still loom]

I just love this

[tulip thorn]

That tutorial isnt that bad

[runic spoke]

idk about u but

[tulip thorn]

the in game one is terrible

[runic spoke]

tutorials just never worked for me when i started

i just had to keep playing and keep failing

tutorials did not help

so just play and be patient

[tulip thorn]

I never had to watch them

[runic spoke]

might take a little while

[tulip thorn]

Since I had watched hoi4 content for so long, after getting it I already sorta knew the basics

[tall ledge]

yeah thats for most games lol the reason i bought hoi4 because i liked aoc2 and i thought hoi4 is just much better version of aoc2

[tulip thorn]

What is aoc2

[runic spoke]

age of history 2

[tall ledge]

yes

[runic spoke]

its like mobile4 hoi4