hoi4-general

[zinc light]

and smack em

cause this is ridiculous

[surreal mist]

manage your volunteers, your 3 minigames, and your focus tree all at once

[zinc light]

I'm having a ton of fun
but its still ridiculous

[surreal mist]

fun

or you can turn brain off and play KR Japan

[zinc light]

I believe you're not even supposed to do all war readiness measurements
like, you just dont have the time to do everything

which is nice, I like to pick n choose

[surreal mist]

if you do Schleicher government you do iirc

[zinc light]

yeah I'm on the path to Zentrum Schleicher

I also have to work on the world tension eventuall

[patent thistle]

kenya is not that bad in the situation but considering i am going to be sorrounded by enemies

(and no i dont count italian east africa as a good ally)

[wicked kayak]

yo can someone help me

[zinc light]

whaddup

[wicked kayak]

is this a new feature from the hoi4 dlc?

or a setting?

[zinc light]

I think thwy changed the map in ncns

[wicked kayak]

thats so bad bro 😭

[zinc light]

ya I dont like it either

makes it less serious you know?

[wicked kayak]

also that

but do you have it too?

[zinc light]

nah I'm broke

[wicked kayak]

damn

[heavy vigil]

day night cycle?

[dusky perch]

Is day night cycle available in hoi4?

[primal timber]

its over

[zinc light]

yeah you can toggle it in the bottom right

[dusky perch]

I see...

Since I used lowest graphics settings

[dusky perch]

I always lose to German Reich

As Soviet

[wicked kayak]

no

this is normal

this is what it should look like

[dusky perch]

What is your PC specs?

[wicked kayak]

does it matter

?

[dusky perch]

Is it wrong?

[wicked kayak]

no

but like

i dont think my specs

have to do anything to do with this

[dusky perch]

Average fps?

[wicked kayak]

like 60 or more

its just regularly smooth

[dusky perch]

Wow

Meanwhile I stuck at 30 fps at early game

[wicked kayak]

💔

[dusky perch]

And 25 fps at late game

[wicked kayak]

i get like

30 fps or more at late game

[dusky perch]

Still better

[cursive oxide]

i had tanks moterrised and infantry on the uk home island on one 1 tile the all died there 100 divs of me and only a few of the uk

like how did that happen ?

[proud tapir]

finally

barbarossa is complete

first time i won ww2, by 1943 too

[wicked kayak]

i need to find someone who has knowledge about this ass dlc issue with the lighting if you go to default map mode

lowkey pisses me off

[dusky perch]

I won Barbarossa at September 41

[viscid coyote]

Niceeee

[dusky perch]

Except the annoying bri'ish

[viscid coyote]

I won as the Guangdong clique in 1939

[dusky perch]

Great

[viscid coyote]

Against all of China, India, Japan, and indochina

[dusky perch]

I even can't resist the japanese

[viscid coyote]

It’s easy, PORT CHESSE

[cursive oxide]

i can cap france in december 1936

[viscid coyote]

Not surprised

[cursive oxide]

but that is not that hard

[dusky perch]

Using paratroopers?

[cursive oxide]

paratroopers ar so funny

[cursive oxide]

yes

[dusky perch]

Until the British air force

[cursive oxide]

i keep dying in as germany cus uk sadly

[dusky perch]

I literally must make 20 factory only for fighters for air superiority

[wicked kayak]

YO I GOT THAT SAME ISSUE

[proud tapir]

nice, Mustache mans expectations irl

[dusky perch]

And US

[proud tapir]

Barbarossa was

[royal marten]

You have day night cycle on

[proud tapir]

suprisngly easy

[dusky perch]

He lose because ego and not following his general's advice

And some crazy project

[cursive oxide]

yea

p1000 rat

[proud tapir]

I had 1 full field marshal of standard hold the line infantry, 1 full field marshal of my line artillery offensive units

And a bunch of Romanian and Italian divisions too

[wicked kayak]

what

ofc

[proud tapir]

i just hit battleplan and go, however i did make a bunch of JUICY encriclements

[dusky perch]

Ah yes, annoying Mussolini

[wicked kayak]

this happens without the day and night cycle

this is shit

[dusky perch]

But I won Barbarossa bypass through turkey

[dusky perch]

Eat performance?

[wicked kayak]

no

its a bug i think

[clear dome]

playing game for first time man looks confusing lol

[cursive oxide]

how to kill the uk in like 1938-1939 ?

[cursive oxide]

yea it is lol

[proud tapir]

i expected it to be harder, but i guess the Romanian, Hungarian and Italian divisions+colonial forces from east Asian puppets

[royal marten]

Paratroopers

[dusky perch]

No clue

[proud tapir]

absolutely wrecked the USSR

[primal timber]

i smell a cold war

[clear dome]

was told diplomacy then i left tutorial lol

[dusky perch]

I just attack Poland and Baltics at late 38

[proud tapir]

so in my current run, i killed them in 1940

Basicaly

[dusky perch]

Absolutely

[cursive oxide]

im trying but the died or my army get killed cus stuiped game

[viscid coyote]

Btw

[cursive oxide]

120 divs vs 10 and the lose

[dusky perch]

That bri'ish air force

[primal timber]

hang on

why are you still here

[viscid coyote]

Statyuki showed me a insane Calvary Strat for the polish

With the new doctrine system

[royal marten]

Hes hardworking

[viscid coyote]

IT IS SO FREAKING PEAK

[dusky perch]

Remember the supply

[cursive oxide]

there on a city port

[primal timber]

surrounded by 700 NKVD agents

[viscid coyote]

I steamrolled Germany with cavalry lol

[viscid coyote]

Ready to nuke his ahh

[dusky perch]

And comrade Stalin are still paranoid

[dusky perch]

Ahh ball

[primal timber]

tito left then immidiately rejoined the allies

[proud tapir]

i had good planes, achived air superiority

I brought Italy in, and i put a full 24 div army in North Africa and helped Italy push the UK all the way down in Ethiopia

That would distract the army and the navy
Then i did an airdrop with like 6 good paratrooper divisions on ipswitch (port). And then as soon as they take the port, transport all your remaining armies to that port and micro your way trough Britain

[dusky perch]

Top 10 manipulator

[cursive oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EB8TLvkZAM&list=PLNYLMaymjRr9vK7Mn6v9-nGYtoG9BQhAh&index=6 @clear dome

[dusky perch]

I never invade the British again after Gotterdammerung

[proud tapir]

Dont be afraid to force attack your paratroopers if they are not doing enough.
I force attacked because it was stuck at 70 green

[primal timber]

im still at war with japan so ill just send chaffee over and royally blow them up

[clear dome]

cheers was about to youtube lol

[dusky perch]

Sometimes I make full battalion of paratrooper

[viscid coyote]

One of my more successful Austria Hungary runs, a lot of infantry and cavalry

[cursive oxide]

its just the basics and 10 hours long

[proud tapir]

honestly i was scared that it was gonna be hard but after i took the port and landed the first two armies, it was a breeze

[viscid coyote]

All you need is a port

Or a floating harbor

[proud tapir]

Italy is super useful for being a distraction to the brits

[dusky perch]

I never land on British land but I send 10 nukes

[viscid coyote]

Ez win

[cursive oxide]

lol

[proud tapir]

You just send them an army to help in North Africa

i actualy had fun in North Africa

[dusky perch]

Useful to eat supplies

[cursive oxide]

i only caped the uk 1 time out of 5 runs

[viscid coyote]

Italy is a good country to play as tho

Love to bring the pope or the king in power

[dusky perch]

Still, Mussolini in never make the new Roman empire

[viscid coyote]

Glory to the pope!

[dusky perch]

It's just propaganda

[viscid coyote]

Ye

[cursive oxide]

pope had top 5 amry in europe after ww2

[viscid coyote]

Obviously

[cursive oxide]

he got the italian army

[dusky perch]

I even can play better as fascist

[viscid coyote]

He controlled all of Italy

[dusky perch]

And even make L3 with turret

[proud tapir]

Yeah Italy as an ally sucks, but they are a good distraction for the royal navy

[dusky perch]

Even the armor is like a sardine can

[viscid coyote]

Actually… the only Facist path I like is the Greek Facist or Russian polish cossack king path, idk honestly y

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/sardos-l3-l3-tank-tank-tanks-gif-6151738499595723260

[dusky perch]

Give time to control Suez and make them suffer

[viscid coyote]

Don’t get me started on how BAD Italian armor is

[viscid coyote]

Very true

[dusky perch]

I just spam it

[cursive oxide]

best armour no armour

[viscid coyote]

I reform it

[viscid coyote]

Or just fast as hell armor

[cursive oxide]

fr

[dusky perch]

Since Italy lack of resources, I focus on cheap tank and quality

Like the soviets

[dusky perch]

Blitzkrieg bella ciao version

[viscid coyote]

Oh… am I the only one who produces quality medium tanks in an Italy run?

[cursive oxide]

yea but sovjets have more stuff

[viscid coyote]

lol

[proud tapir]

is it like hoi4 baptism for every noob to win ww2 as Germany

My love for paratroopers grew with this Germany run

Not only did i capitulate France and sealion the UK with them

I also took Kiev with them during barbarossa quickly

[cursive oxide]

im failing at nr 2

[proud tapir]

I was unable to make the initial push to Kiev, so i took it with paratroopers and connected with them

[dusky perch]

Typo, I focus on cheap tank since coordination and speed is more required than armor

[cursive oxide]

i get fr#nce but not the uk

[viscid coyote]

Oh I don’t invest in armor just medium tanks, idk I just Ike medium tanks A LOT

[viscid coyote]

It@ly

[dusky perch]

Bruh, even the Barbarossa, I still use panzer II until Moscow captured

[cursive oxide]

how many hours you guys got ?

[viscid coyote]

Dang hats off to you

[proud tapir]

i mostly invest in an airforce and use infantry with line artillery for huge soft attack instead of tanks because i like to keep a focus on air

[viscid coyote]

I think around 350 hours

[cursive oxide]

333 for me

[cedar latch]

Noted

[dusky perch]

Not remember actually

[proud tapir]

People say line artillery is "bad" but honestly its not terrible

especaly with the new doctorines

you can get nasty line artillery bonuses now

[viscid coyote]

Ohhhh, my main airforce lineup is 20 mills on fighters and whatever other mills on cas

[viscid coyote]

Oh

Ok

Wait what’s the optimal amount for my mountaineers tho?

[dusky perch]

You know air superiority? That's key of blitzkrieg

[proud tapir]

i LOVE the new doctorines

[viscid coyote]

Yeah good point

[dusky perch]

Same

[cursive oxide]

i do start 13 bf 109 and 13 transport to get my self a free france cap

[proud tapir]

yeah, this run i didnt even focus on CAS that much
I mostly focused on purely fighters to have green air

[viscid coyote]

Cossack king+mass assault those who know

[viscid coyote]

It’s sooo useful, but also aa is good if your industry is trash

[primal timber]

didn't even notice my missiles are finished

[proud tapir]

true

[proud tapir]

Support AA is amazing

must have in every division

[viscid coyote]

🦅

[dusky perch]

I even try to made Tiger with high speed, less armor but it's to expensive

[viscid coyote]

Agreed wholesale

[cursive oxide]

can you guys help me with a germany run ?

[dusky perch]

I can't deny that

[viscid coyote]

Only if you’re doing monarchist

[dusky perch]

Especially in panzer division

[proud tapir]

quick question

[viscid coyote]

Nah a tiger is for pure armor nothing else

May as well go all in

[proud tapir]

do you have by blood alone for the plane designer?

[cursive oxide]

nope im to broke for dlc

[viscid coyote]

I do

[dusky perch]

For using less resources

[primal timber]

i feel like you should be able to use fuel for energy in the late game

[viscid coyote]

Oh ✅

[viscid coyote]

Yeah

Not coal

[primal timber]

he's dead

[cursive oxide]

sure

[dusky perch]

My paranoia

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-him-ted-ted-show-gif-4342699035732514153

[dusky perch]

Coal

[viscid coyote]

Ok immediately once you win the civil war speedrun down the path to get a monarch in power or you will get hit with debuffs

[primal timber]

im on

commercial nuclear reactors so i should be able to

rectify my coal situation soon

[cursive oxide]

join vc

[viscid coyote]

Make sure you also deal with some focuses to pacify the navy

[viscid coyote]

Can’t sry

I’m at dinner

Just bored and talking

[viscid coyote]

Noic

[cursive oxide]

lol

when can you hop in a vc you think ?

[viscid coyote]

Idk

[cursive oxide]

oke

[viscid coyote]

Yeah, but also… you will get a option to put Wilhelm 2 into power, the Netherlands will probably refuse, if they do do not go to war or Britain will 95% of the time intervene

In my 20 monarchist Germany runs only like 2 times did they agree

Or the uk didn’t intervene

[primal timber]

but im the US

[viscid coyote]

Holy crap is like 5 am there

[cursive oxide]

dont the france do war on you if you get willem 2 ?

[viscid coyote]

No just England

Idk why

[primal timber]

some very akward borders here

hang on

[icy crescent]

"You are part of the middle east now, Roosevelt."

[cursive oxide]

do i get willem 2 or 3 ?

[viscid coyote]

Oh wait it’s Becuase when you do it it’s usually before the treaty making them allies

[patent thistle]

does this thing EVER blow up-

it feels like in every single one of my games it doesnt-

[icy crescent]

I believe the accident chance scales with tension.

[dusky perch]

Czechoslovakia with allies?

[patent thistle]

and they are put on historical-

[viscid coyote]

Eh if you wanna gamble it try 2, if it doesn’t work out reload a save and do it again or do wilhelm 3

He’s not a bad ruler either

[viscid coyote]

+10% stability is always nice

[primal timber]

yeah uh somethings off

[viscid coyote]

Especially for a nation just out of civil war

[dusky perch]

Spain for example

[primal timber]

benes and michael

[viscid coyote]

Very good example

Actually who’s insane enough to do the nonaligned path in the Spanish civil war?

[cursive oxide]

can someone join vc and tell help with germany cicvel war ?

[viscid coyote]

-# I’m not alone right guys?

[dusky perch]

But I take the whole Iberia

[viscid coyote]

Sry can’t

[dusky perch]

German civil war is kinda suck

[cursive oxide]

yea true

[viscid coyote]

You get insane buffs to your troops from mecklenburg

So it’s easy

[dusky perch]

I just hate it

Because non aligned

[viscid coyote]

Oh you don’t like non aligned?

[dusky perch]

Yes

But I love fascist and communist

[viscid coyote]

I love non aligned paths lol

[viscid coyote]

-# we shall never discuss the democratic paths

[dusky perch]

Every people have different opinions

[viscid coyote]

Yeah I respect it

[dusky perch]

US

[primal timber]

yeah uh

no way im naval invading that

[viscid coyote]

Eh It’s just that it takes so much time

[dusky perch]

Lol

Just drop atomic bomb at Tokyo

[primal timber]

im a war criminal but im not a monster

[viscid coyote]

Oh um you’re good

[primal timber]

only half of one

[dusky perch]

I just drop it

No matter what

[viscid coyote]

Nah I would drop it

[viscid coyote]

Do you always go high risk on operations?

[primal timber]

it keeps cancelling my raid literally 1984

[dusky perch]

Yes

[viscid coyote]

Oh ok

I’m not crazy yayyyy

[dusky perch]

And sometimes nearly encircle my whole 1M army

[viscid coyote]

Manpower

So important

[dusky perch]

Yes

I agree

And supplies

Without it, we're cooked

[cursive oxide]

@dusky perch you have a mic ?

[dusky perch]

Nah

And even my English are bad

Bro

Are you losing right now?

[dusky perch]

And even the moustache man are Happy

[mint adder]

Where can i find how new naval gameplay and coal thing works

I forgot

[primal timber]

it was because i was launching from china

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[mint adder]

Havent been playing in ages

[dusky perch]

Hu tao

[proud tapir]

oh i forgot, i did barbarossa while i was nerfed too because i forgot to take the improve logistics focus at all

[dusky perch]

You already eat some dogs

[dusky perch]

Bad decision

@cursive oxide are you play the original hoi4 or cracked version?

[cursive oxide]

?

[dusky perch]

Just ask

[proud tapir]

yet i still won, just makes the victory even sweeter

if i had la resistance to make a collab, i would not need to push towards the Urals and Karelia

[keen briar]

Chat i have a question

[dusky perch]

Eat supply and manpower

[dusky perch]

??

[keen briar]

Is Hoi4 worth buying without any mods

Like Hoi4 but you can only play vanilla

[proud tapir]

Wait, by mods you mean workshop mods or dlcs

[dusky perch]

Mods or DLC?

[keen briar]

Both

[proud tapir]

id say at some point you have to try some workshop mods, kaiserreich is absolute peak i love it

Now dlcs, ehh it depends

for your first time experience

no dlcs is fine

but you would want to get some eventualy

For new mechanics and focus trees

[dusky perch]

Hoi4 without DLC is good for starter I think

[keen briar]

I will have to sacrifice ck3 for storage then

[dusky perch]

You can learn the mechanics

[dusky perch]

And I nearly sacrifice my warthunder

[proud tapir]

The plane designers and tank designers can confuse new players (dlc content but very important)

so its fine to start with no dlcs

[keen briar]

Look i wanted to play hoi4 since forever now that i finally got a pc i know a lot of the mechanics

[dusky perch]

@cursive oxide oh you're counterattack now

[keen briar]

Took me 2 days to understand the basics

Also help me win the German civil war

[dusky perch]

Great if you already learn the basic, try play not one step back

[keen briar]

Everytime i try i just cant

[dusky perch]

It's easy bro

Fokus some of your unit to certain place and push for the supply hub

[keen briar]

I played the game during free weekend

[dusky perch]

And CAS

[keen briar]

I am thinking of buying it now

[proud tapir]

Your 24 militia units should only be used as defence

The other units (normal infantry and panzers) should be used to push. However leave some 4-5 divisions in the North to defend

Then try to push for nurmbeg to cut off Bavaria and destroy the pocket

[primal timber]

here comes the sun

[keen briar]

.

[keen briar]

.

[dusky perch]

Why japanese eye's are small?

[proud tapir]

i recommend looking up a guide but make sure its post gotterdammerung dlc (aka any guide thats 11 or less months old at least)

[keen briar]

Nuke Fr*nce please

[dusky perch]

It's because the atomic bomb are brighter than sun

[crystal ruin]

anyone else having problems with enemy fleets refusing to engage your fleet in sp?

[dusky perch]

I don't know about navy

[keen briar]

As far as i know hoi4 is one of the most multiplayer dependant game of paradox

Cause other games like eu4 and ck3 don’t have a active multiplayer community

[crystal ruin]

I do alot of sp because military stuff and school keeps me busy

[keen briar]

Hoi4 = Best for multiplayer

Other paradox games = singleplayer better

[keen briar]

Wydm by sp?

[crystal ruin]

single player

[dusky perch]

@cursive oxide the french at the border

[keen briar]

You forgot to censor smth

[dusky perch]

I'm lazy to type it

@cursive oxide your air superiority

[warm otter]

wrong city

[primal timber]

erm akshually

[warm otter]

nice

[warm otter]

nuke paris

[primal timber]

that was kokura this is false news

[dusky perch]

It's better drop atomic bomb at Tokyo

[warm otter]

wasn't

[dusky perch]

And kill their emperor

[warm otter]

its still crashing

[little gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-detected-respect-sigma-respect-patrick-bateman-american-psyco-gif-17523786110322592071

my gf left me

https://tenor.com/view/سیگما-gif-8017283655887868192

its time to conquer on hoi4

[zealous nexus]

when does ai japan attack the allies

playing china rn and gotta know how long i have to hold out until the allies help me

[fossil dragon]

Well they don't relly send units to china but if you hold on until mid 1941 you have won and is just driving them mainland

[little gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-cat-cat-cat-grab-cat-meme-cat-gif-gif-16708721365088240754

what is the purpose of life

[somber forge]

to play hoi4

[little gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thofinn-gif-27635363

[random socket]

Anyone else blunder their first historic Japan play through with the new dlc? lol

[little gazelle]

i did with china

[random socket]

Eyyy, I’m planning on playing China and Chinese Soviet next too

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-peaks-this-fucking-greens-danny-devito-clapping-gif-652469562401052345

[green plume]

can someone tell me what's wrong with this map

[tulip thorn]

Finland is communist

[green plume]

well yeah

but

hint:france

[languid patrol]

britian is so hard to invade now

[green plume]

fr

[tulip thorn]

As what nation

[green plume]

especially in MP

[languid patrol]

japan

[green plume]

no shit?

[languid patrol]

no

cuz airdropping into britan from germany

[tulip thorn]

Invading as japan should be easy if you can get naval range

[green plume]

paratroopers?

[languid patrol]

ye

[green plume]

in mp literally impossible. a good america gets into the war instantly and bases a whole army group in britain

and gains air dominance very quick

[languid patrol]

im in single player

[green plume]

i swear every america player puts 50 factories in fighters alone

its INSANE

by 1939 early aswel

aswell*

[grand wolf]

No its not, you can legit shred the rn like its paper

[languid patrol]

plz share how

[grand wolf]

Make 3 superheavy battleships or around 12 normal ones, 2 or 3 aircraft carriers with nav bombers that have machine guns 100-300 destroyers and some subs, make sure the destroyers are cheap their only job is to protect the battleships and aircraft carriers

[languid patrol]

i have no idea how navy works but i will try

[grand wolf]

Not that hard, if you got alot of cheap destroyers and a way to destroy planes you'll be good

[languid patrol]

with that tactic do i naval invade or air drop

[grand wolf]

Naval invade

[zealous nexus]

even if i give them military access?

[fossil dragon]

No

[patent thistle]

east african navy is real

[green plume]

W

[patent thistle]

2 panzerschiffe

also no i did not use licences for it, i installed a mod to get some specific ships (habakkuk doesnt work)

[tardy imp]

Yo guys

Play multiplayer

??

[zealous nexus]

delete this message before they ban you

and no

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-moo-walk-gif-17836080

[tardy imp]

Awew

[misty fossil]

Look under there

[tardy imp]

I did

[primal timber]

astounding naval dominance of 2

[stone mango]

average non-historical game

[green plume]

italy hasnt even done 1K casualties to me

[primal timber]

giant battleship btw

[simple citrus]

why i lowkey cant access engines in kaiserredux

[stone mango]

this is getting worse

[warm otter]

why my paratrooper not going

i already have 70% air superiority and transport planes

[brave fjord]

Whats the point of subsidies? Most of the time the country you have the subsidy for doesnt even have the equipment for sale

[pseudo saddle]

You need air superiority over EVERY zone they are travelling through including where they are starting from not just the destination

Check you have that

[ripe slate]

Yeh thats why Philippines also has the selling decisions that just pull the equipment out of the void

[brave fjord]

fair, but phillipines also get a crap ton of subsidies

[ripe slate]

mhm

But yeh, it being the only reward for any focus is probably not a great idea

[grand wolf]

Is that the tno map?

[honest glacier]

You would expect paradox to add a focus giving you 10k coal from enslaved chinese children

[grand wolf]

As communist china

[brave fjord]

yeah I honestly feel like the phillipines are really boring, I tried fascist and commie paths but I dont know what to do except wait for years to get something
How do I even do the formable, it requires going to war with the allies

[unkempt prism]

1943 germany, and now even early mobilization is too much for my coal

[grand wolf]

You do it by having skill

[unkempt prism]

I hope they rebalance and add more coal

[coral gorge]

do Four Year Plan for coals

[stone mango]

yeah,why?

[warm otter]

still none

[unkempt prism]

what in the

[coral gorge]

check Coal Qualification focus too

[pseudo saddle]

Weird that should be allowing the drop, does it say why its not, how many divs are you trying to drop?

[coral gorge]

does it say?

it should unlock like 4 coal decisions from Coal Qualification

wait no

[pseudo saddle]

You may not have enough transport planes actually

[coral gorge]

what is it?

I forgot the word

Coal Liquidization?

no

that makes no sense

the word is slipping by my mind

[unkempt prism]

this one nothing

[honest glacier]

strokey grandpa

[coral gorge]

ah right

[pseudo saddle]

coal liquefaction

[coral gorge]

right

[green plume]

yeah they needa fix that

[coral gorge]

thanks

[grand wolf]

Just wanted to know what map it was

[warm otter]

I NEED 2 MORE??

WHAT THE HE

[unkempt prism]

cause like, 1943 germany and this is kind of sad

[coral gorge]

also yeah you get Autarky trade law

which exports only 15%

even more coal for yourself

[grand wolf]

Autarky sucks

[coral gorge]

only if you stay with it

if you cancel before doing price control

you can end up with -5% consumer good factors on Recovering Economy

and -75% to -85% for a limited period

it has shorter focus time and is now far better than PEG if you can't win

cuz coal

[grand wolf]

Doesn't peg have more buffs?

[coral gorge]

nah

PEG has only 5% more output til you can do Wirtschaftswunder, but 20%~30% more consumer goods

but that's too late anyway

[grand wolf]

Ahhhh

[coral gorge]

and you have less coal

[unkempt prism]

I'll do my first 4 year plan run next time then

just for the extra coal

[grand wolf]

I've never been able to complete the 4 year plan cause I cant get enough resources

[coral gorge]

well

the key to FYP for new players who like PEG

[unkempt prism]

Btw I have been having much much much more difficulty than in 1.16.9

[coral gorge]

is to cancel FYP

manually

[unkempt prism]

I am actually failing the invasion of the USSR

for the first time in my life

[coral gorge]

cancelling MEFO while being on FYP is actually fairly healthy

very safe

better than PEG in early-mid game, and now you have way more coal

also shorter focus time so you can take more buff foci

[grand wolf]

Do you gotta cancel them at a certain time?

[coral gorge]

yeah

[pseudo saddle]

Honestly Italy is sad as now, they start in a deficit on -4 coal and have NO FOCUSES to give extra

[unkempt prism]

Atarturk my dear

[coral gorge]

lemme boot up the game first

[wicked haven]

if you do FYP and invade central europe and england by 1940 you get autarky

[coral gorge]

somewhat historical ig

[grand wolf]

Nah Italy is very op

[coral gorge]

they had to import around 98%~99% of their coal need

[pseudo saddle]

Oh ik its historical

but for gameplay thats shitty

[daring geyser]

orrrr if you know how to do the collabs as germany you can get autarky achieved without even capitulating the UK or the ussr

[pseudo saddle]

They could add in focus to get discounts on coal trade and stuff

[grand wolf]

I managed to crush mainland Europe and secure the Mediterranean by 1942

[coral gorge]

so like do Reichswerke, Hoesch-Benzin, Buna-Werke first

then cancel MEFO and do Price Controls

completing all Price Control decisions should give you -70% consumer goods factor for 60 days

around that

or 80%

then it goes up to -5% again

[pseudo saddle]

Fair but for me as a casual player I hate having that pop up shouting at me lmao

[coral gorge]

compared to PEG you have -30% consumer goods factor and -5% factory output (unless you go free trade on PEG)

[grand wolf]

And stays there for the rest of the game?

[coral gorge]

yeah, pretty much

well

no

it goes up to +5% later

from this focus

currently the main benefit of this is that FYP gives you coal

[grand wolf]

I use a few factories to get the coal i need until I got germany

[coral gorge]

and even more coal since you export 10% less than Limited Exports

[grand wolf]

Alright ill use the 4yp today then

[coral gorge]

I’d say downside to this is that you have to rush tech

Oil/Rubber processing

Since they are required to do the foci

[grand wolf]

I can do that, I make alot of synthetic refineries in 1936-1937 anyways

[coral gorge]

Yeah then it is a decent choice

Well you have more rubber with FYP too

Right now FYP is probably far safer to take for a new player if they know when to cancel MEFO

Meta has changed

Stupid coal mechanics

[daring geyser]

tbf fyp was always way better than PEG

even back at gdr release you could get autarky achieved the legitimate way even before starting barb on full blown mp lobbies

[warm otter]

HIMMLER!!!!

[daring geyser]

all it takes is getting collabs right

PEG was just the safer option

or if you're playing a mp mod where you can't get autarky like that

[coral gorge]

Say that to all the players that failed

Safer is better if you know it not

[coral gorge]

Nah mefo cancel is still very nice

[daring geyser]

mefo cancel is banned on most decent games tho

[coral gorge]

You produce more than PEG by 1940 even then

Ok

Wait

They actually do?

[mild flame]

uhmm you guys think they need help?

[coral gorge]

that’s harsh

[daring geyser]

yeah

mefo cancel kinda broken

falls under the exploit rule usually

it's so stupid that mefo can be entirely avoided that way but still technically not an intended way to play the game

[coral gorge]

Wdym not technically

Price Controls focus effect actually changes from -0.5% monthly tick to -10% cg factor if you have cancelled MEFO

Devs knew

So technically intended

It would fall more under balancing issue

[daring geyser]

that's probably meant for economy of conquest

if players do the focus late

[coral gorge]

In which case nothing really changes because you still end with low cg factor

Cuz all the cg reduction decisions are behind the focus anyway

and it always resets cg factor once cancelled

[coral gorge]

If you have eco of conq it is still -0.5% monthly tick

[rapid pebble]

is hirohito, tojo or konoe more historical?

[daring geyser]

oh yeah nvmd devs are actually kinda dum

[hexed rose]

Tojo

[coral gorge]

So this is technically intended

It falls under balancing issue

[daring geyser]

still.. scummy

[hexed rose]

And konoe were PMs at one point

[rapid pebble]

which focus would be more historical

to complete

[warm otter]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[hexed rose]

I haven't looked at the new Japanese focus tree but konoe was PM before Tojo, he was PM before Japan entered war with the US

[rapid pebble]

alr

nvm

I cant take tojo or konoe

I guess its hirohito!

[hexed rose]

I thought the focus that chooses Tojo and Hirohito, your other option is Yamamoto?

[rapid pebble]

nope

its konoe

nvm

its yamamoto

oopsies

[hexed rose]

Which is just paradox putting in the well known IJN guy

[simple citrus]

i was too lazy to copy and paste the screenshots

[hexed rose]

Does Coal make strat bombing more damaging now?

[tulip thorn]

Nope

[hexed rose]

Why not? Doesnt it get damaged like all the other resources?

When you hit infrastructure?

[ornate path]

Is there a Steam mod to increase the world tension?

[sudden thistle]

No

[hexed rose]

Also AI Germany needs to better about actually trying to stop my bombers, idk why they put 4000 fighters up against the nonexistent VVS

[hexed rose]

That's silly but I guess strat bombing was already good

[ornate path]

i can’t declare wars

[sudden thistle]

It’s very good and funny

[hexed rose]

I finally got around to making night bombers and taking the night number tree as USA

So funny to just still bomb stuff through red air

[ornate path]

Guys, is there a mod to start wars instantly? I want to declare war, but it says the required world voltage is 50.

[languid patrol]

allow.diplo

[ornate path]

is it the best?

[languid patrol]

its a command

[eternal palm]

It's not voltage, it's tension 💀

[ornate path]

oh, thanks!

[eternal palm]

Idk why Google translate gave you voltage

But it's kinda funny

[ornate path]

im german, my translator makes that

[eternal palm]

Bruh

[craggy trail]

[ornate path]

bruh

[craggy trail]

World Voltage ⚡

[tulip thorn]

I've caused 159 voltage

[daring geyser]

did yall know that irl, in 1940, the US gdp alone was already bigger than the entirety of the axis combined

[eternal palm]

Bros been busy on the treadmill

[languid patrol]

where do new ships u make spawn

[royal marten]

use console

[tulip thorn]

America is op, pls nerf

[hexed rose]

Is that a wages of destruction chart?

[tulip thorn]

use the command threat (number)

Or you could wait

World tension is always bound to increase

Especially around 1938

[hexed rose]

Iirc, in America, 40k aircraft were made in 42. Just goes to show how much paradox buffs the various axis powers and nerfs the allies. Which makes for a good game but still

[eternal palm]

Aircraft production was never an issue, the issue was always the pilots. Both sides never had enough pilots to field their produced planes

[daring geyser]

chart made my mark harrison from cambridge university

[eternal palm]

Hoi4's training mechanic is extremely simplified

[daring geyser]

Not just that, their navy, land army, were impressively huge too

[eternal palm]

And hoi4 isn't trying to be realistic with production, div and plane counts anyhow

[daring geyser]

The US having almost 70 carriers by the end of the war

[eternal palm]

So don't try to infer reality from hoi4

[daring geyser]

and 300k planes

[crystal sandal]

paraslop

[eternal palm]

Real

[craggy trail]

Typically at random, or your reserve fleet if you have ships in eserve

[daring geyser]

he specifically meant production, which for the axis was always ridiculously smaller

[wicked haven]

not really, both sides operate with modern understandings not present universally in the 30s and 40s

[daring geyser]

yeah, obviously

[craggy trail]

You can also manually select where the ship can spawn in the production line

[eternal palm]

Tru

[sudden thistle]

Lore accurate US

[wicked haven]

the luftwaffe was incompetently managed, it wouldn't have been able to match the US 1:1 but it could have had a lot more planes with competent leadership

[eternal palm]

Uh no

It wouldn't

More planes don't fix the issue

[craggy trail]

Great for when you want ships in the baltics as the Soviets, as new ships will typically spawn in the Black Sea where the bosporous doesn't give then naval access

[eternal palm]

Fuel and manpower problems would hold it back

These 2 issues fundamentally undermined the German war effort

[wicked haven]

that is part of the incompetent management

[eternal palm]

The allies simply had more of everything

[wicked haven]

goering destroyed pilot reserves

[eternal palm]

Better management only improves this extremely slightly

[wicked haven]

they have more of everything by the mid to late 40s

[eternal palm]

It doesn't help but removing goering doesn't fix the underlying issue

[wicked haven]

in 39 the UK had nothing

US wasn't at war

[eternal palm]

Not true?

[sudden thistle]

Yeah we won’t be building 300k planes

I’m sorry but that much ain’t happening

[fervent estuary]

What’s the hardest achievement in the new dlc?

[sudden thistle]

And how many ships did the USA have?

[wicked haven]

the UK failed to supply the required number of equipment to it's armies in France during the 39 period on war footing

[languid patrol]

i cant plan a naval invasion from a country thats not in my faction?

[hexed rose]

I know that plenty of stuff is abstracted, including plane counts, I'm just using this factoid to say that on a macro level the military production of countries in HOI4 is off to give axis a edge

[daring geyser]

Nothing of Germany could beat the US in a 1 to 1, the US had a bigger, more equipped land army, a navy multiple times bigger and more modern, and an airforce which maybe didn't have quite as much research behind it (the German advancements in airforce were really impressive indeed) but it was reliable and, massive. The US had a much bigger capacity to field all of those aspects and also simply had a lot more of them

[eternal palm]

Guess what, so did every other nation. Nobody filled their theoretical requirements ever

[wicked haven]

sure but that wasn't the fight early on

[sudden thistle]

Quantity has a quality of its own

[wicked haven]

most nations delivered the equipment required by frontline units

[daring geyser]

the thing is that the US had them in large quantity, but they were also very high quality

[hexed rose]

Pilot man pool is sort of a thing I'd like to be represented in game, important for most theatres of the war. Would also allow the devs to balance the VVS

[daring geyser]

and reliable at the same time

by mid 1942 at least that would be already the case for most of us's production

they didn't have to cut corners like the soviets did

they were just able to have the best and most expensive (whilst still keeping efficiency ofc) and have tons of them

[hexed rose]

Currently the VVS just kinda disappears, which I guess is sort of an abstraction of absolutely getting mauled in 1941. But the big thing is a lot of the planes destroyed in 1941 were destroyed on the ground, which was a huge silver lining

If you had some sort of pilot system and could destroy planes on the ground you could model this better. You could also model what happens to Japan carrier fleet

[languid patrol]

bruh its impossible to naval invade britianas japan

[sudden thistle]

I was going to type that but I had to do smth, thx though

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/akselav-angry-porta-door-gif-21959147

[pseudo saddle]

What also undermined the German war effort was the infighting between generals, manufacturers, high command etc fighting for the resources

[wicked haven]

The UK had about 300 tanks comp to over 2.4k (Ger) and 2.9k (Fr)
The UK was unable to produce tanks at the same rate as the other nations due to retooling efforts
There were only about 300-400 heavy anti air guns in the entire UK in 39
The RAF in 39 had 650 total modern planes with about 60-70% able to fulfil missions
Was reliant on WWI era artillery due to low 25pdr production
etc

[sudden thistle]

Once the USA gets update the axis will have a 6-7% win rate

[wicked haven]

my point is that the UK and France didn't want and didn't believe there would be a war

[pseudo saddle]

Messerschmitt for example would be trying to convince the German command that they need more of the resources than Dornier

[sudden thistle]

Wasn’t that between everyone, just in different amounts

[fervent estuary]

What’s the current win rate

[warm otter]

progress so far

[wicked haven]

so the Germans being incompetent resulted in fewer planes during the most decisive period for the Germans when the allies were not ready for the war

[sudden thistle]

From the lobbies I play like 40%

[eternal palm]

Eh depends on the success. For example, a crisis of leadership emerged on both sides in the North African campaign during operation compass. Where the British managed to figure things out, the German Command went up in flames

[fervent estuary]

Are you a meta a gamer?

[eternal palm]

Infighting is a staple of any undertaking, it is the skill of the CIC to manage it

[sudden thistle]

Yeah why

[warm otter]

what should I focus next

[pseudo saddle]

It was but the difference was the German command and industry would try to undercut each other and go directly to the higher ups

[languid patrol]

great game

[pseudo saddle]

Allied command were a lot more willing to standardize and work together at points

[brittle cypress]

Did you set your home dockyard base thing

[languid patrol]

whats this

[sudden thistle]

Merge fleets firstly

[brittle cypress]

New update you have to set a dock as like your base of operations

[eternal palm]

Group up your fleet 😠

[brittle cypress]

And range is calculated from there

[languid patrol]

im new to navy :(

[sudden thistle]

U forgot to set base for the fleet 😭

[pseudo saddle]

You are completely wrong about the RAF there matethe RAF on the outbreak of the war had 10k aircraft approximately with almost half of those being modern

[languid patrol]

im playing as japan so idk if i can do this for a german naval base

[brittle cypress]

literally just

What

oh

Idk man

[fervent estuary]

What are the current meta templates? Is line artillery viable? And what do you think about rocket artillery and motorised rocket artillery? I will be pleased if you answer my questions

[pseudo saddle]

We took a while with tanks but the RAF got INSANE investments from chamberlain at the munich conference

[warm otter]

buddy my navy keep dying to french

[fervent estuary]

All the new doctrines give a lot of buffs to arty

[languid patrol]

how do i set a home naval base

[fervent estuary]

Sub*

[crystal sandal]

skill issue

[eternal palm]

Current meta consists of heavy td, special forces and large/small inf. Nothing of what you suggested is useful

[sudden thistle]

Line arty is pretty bad, same for the last 2 buts it’s nice to use, a LOT better than before

[eternal palm]

Still not any good

Not relevant to the meta

[fervent estuary]

Hmm okay thank you

[warm otter]

but I got france

[crystal sandal]

line arty is still dog water

[sudden thistle]

Tell that to my friend who did 12/4s

[eternal palm]

We he's restarted

[wicked haven]

what date?

[sudden thistle]

@ shyy u just gonna take that

[eternal palm]

Ragebait successful, disengage

[clever glen]

Does someone else also have problem, where patrol doesnt give naval dominance to region even though they are assigned to it?

[languid patrol]

how do i ahcnage my home baser

[sudden thistle]

Merge fleets then send screenshot

I will show u rq

[languid patrol]

how do i merge fleets 💔

[sudden thistle]

The arrows pointing towards each other button

👉 👈 like this

[eternal palm]

Show navy screen

Is the home base close to this sea zone?

[meager marlin]

I do have the problem that some mods absolutely destroy the naval dominance per ship

[meager marlin]

And set it to 1 or 2

[pseudo saddle]

I know that on the war declaration we sent 12 squadrons to France, 2 were fighters with hurricanes and 10 were light bombers

[safe wing]

My greatest victory

[sudden thistle]

Click this

[vague galleon]

I'm new on this server. If I had known this server earlier, I would've already joined here :p

[sudden thistle]

And select the naval base u want

[pseudo saddle]

So I can absolutely say we had way more than 600 aircraft, official sources state 10k aircraft on war start

[eternal palm]

Why are you pinging me?

[pseudo saddle]

I think the source your referencing is pre munich conference

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-laugh-laughingatgrandma-yougotme-gif-19096209

[safe wing]

I don’t know

[eternal palm]

Ok then don't

[languid patrol]

yeah its over for me

[warm otter]

how do I get rubber without British colonies

[languid patrol]

OH WAIT NVM

[warm otter]

Indonesia is having a civil war

[eternal palm]

Hmm this is weird. They are there. Maybe reset the mission

[languid patrol]

found it

[sudden thistle]

Not hard to get them

[eternal palm]

And assign it again

[pseudo saddle]

Build synthetic refineries and research the rubber processing tech

[daring geyser]

did you know rubber is a very important resource in hoi4 because the german students need it to erase their pencil writing

[warm otter]

my cas:

[languid patrol]

bruh i still cant naval invade tho

[warm otter]

easy

use marine

[sudden thistle]

Do yall approve 300 mils on air for USA

[warm otter]

get good navy

[sudden thistle]

It’s very funny

[clever glen]

I tried, still 0

[daring geyser]

70 is usually enough if the uk can deal with axis air..

[warm otter]

imagine USA becomes fascist and helps us

[daring geyser]

which they should be

if axis isnt air gamblin

[sudden thistle]

30k heavy fighters with 10k medium CAS

by late 1943

[daring geyser]

why would you make medium cas tho

[languid patrol]

u can only naval invade from faciton memebrs 💔 what is this updaet bro

[daring geyser]

thats so trolololo

[vague galleon]

Wait why are you planning your invasion on German land and playing as Japan?

[sudden thistle]

Too lazy to research small airframes

[warm otter]

either you don't have military permission in Germany or you aren't at war with Britain

[daring geyser]

license it from the uk and steal the design by using the module exploit

[languid patrol]

not at war with britan but i ahve all permissions from germany

[sudden thistle]

One problem with that (lemme find the screenshot)

[warm otter]

then be at war

[languid patrol]

where else would i plan it from?

[warm otter]

I'm at war with the UK

[daring geyser]

i was talking to christig

[sudden thistle]

They had oil

[vague galleon]

I was just confused I thought you had joined the axis instead of Japanese faction

[daring geyser]

some folks are born, made to wave the flag

[languid patrol]

nahhh

[warm otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086751

[vague galleon]

How is this even working bro

[sudden thistle]

The AI always reminds me how easy it is to kill

[warm otter]

I'll boost fascist ideology in the US

[warm otter]

see if he intervenes

[sudden thistle]

I love battleplanning the greatest empire in the world

[vague galleon]

Like Roman Empire?

[warm otter]

murica

[sudden thistle]

British empire

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gambling-slot-machine-poky-reddit-pokie-gif-15930312603982781181

[sudden thistle]

Do yall like my navy too

[jade flare]

Guys I’m 200 hours into a game and I don’t get how navy works is it normal or skill issue ?

[daring geyser]

revenge class

[sudden thistle]

Normal

[daring geyser]

most ppl dont actually so dw

even like experienced comp mp players will fully grasp it 😭

[jade flare]

I’m struggling to naval invade tho

[daring geyser]

before the dlc everyone would say just spam cl which is correct but it's still not understanding how it works

[sudden thistle]

Aw man

[tulip thorn]

<@&846894118219022336>

[jade flare]

As Germany I try to invade uk and always lose

[daring geyser]

then its a skill issue

[jade flare]

I agree actually

[daring geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924121342536744983/1442552138999005224/youtube-qqZ5vtD_0XY.mp4?ex=6925d8df&is=6924875f&hm=cebcb311be84d2051a9ab0488a85b19e447e0378c3f107c580cbc1f40bb7047c&

[warm otter]

yes

[vague galleon]

British Empire does be strong if you form the imperial federation

[crystal sandal]

Singleplayer is so easy bro

[warm otter]

Germany's leader got assassinated, Himmler declared war on the Soviets while being in the same team fighting the allies!!!

Himmler ist ein Dummkopf

[crystal sandal]

why are you so cringe

[warm otter]

he's dumb

don't blame me

[tulip thorn]

because he can

[eternal palm]

Nicht solche Kraftausdrücke verwenden, dankeschön

[warm otter]

ok..

[sudden thistle]

I know

[eternal palm]

I'm just fking with you dw

[warm otter]

anyways how can I persuade Germany to white peace soviets

and both focus on the allies

[daring geyser]

tibetan empire does get strong if you annex with 100% compliance china india burma france japan the uk usa soviet union germany italy

[vague galleon]

Bruh

Can you get any core provinces?

[eternal palm]

You don't

Mechanic is broken

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

Core Tibet

[vague galleon]

Lmao

That was actually funny

[warm otter]

goodbye Germany
welcome Italy

[vague galleon]

L mao

Do you like China in hoi4 🇹🇼

[tulip thorn]

God this war is going to be fun

[slim nexus]

just the usual alt hist games

[true needle]

I think I may try the imperial federation, any tips?

[vague galleon]

Declare wars against the dominions when you get in civil war

And before that you'll have to complete some focus tree

[true needle]

I think ill also try out artillery in my infantry divisions, I find I use my infantry to push for encirclements anyways when my tanks are far away so I may as well try to put artillery or SPGs in my infantry

[marsh ravine]

arty is more defensive

no breakthrough

you want breakthrough

wait

its sp

@heavy vigil how much break u need in sp?

[daring geyser]

italy in that game

[true needle]

which is where the armor meme SPGs come in

[marsh ravine]

then do spg

instead of arty

get soft and breakthrough in 1

instead of 2

[true needle]

their breakthrough is reduced by being SPGs but they have armor and soft attack

BUT, there is like one bonus throughout all of the subdoctrines that apply to SPGs and its something like +15% soft attack

[normal galleon]

buys ssd
faster loading speeds
can't enjoy loading screens
:c

[true needle]

while artillery have multiple subdoctrines dumping buffs on it

[crystal sandal]

its a noob trap

[marsh ravine]

focus on what you actually need when pushing

yes more attack is always good

[daring geyser]

i have a ssd and still slow as hell to load hoi4

😴

[marsh ravine]

but would you rather have idk a bit more attack and less breakthrough

[unkempt prism]

1944 germany and I am forced into civlian economy due to coal shortages

[marsh ravine]

or still alot of attack and more breakthrough

[true needle]

honestly breakthrough is useless WHEN you have more than you need and when you are fighting infantry divisions their attack isnt all that high

but more attack is more attack, you can never have enough

[crystal sandal]

Yeah the new coal feature is terrible

[pseudo saddle]

Yeah I get the idea behind the coal feature is to help minor countries catch up but the implementation is horrible and unfun

[marsh ravine]

but you are infantry, you wont have too much 💀

[true needle]

it would be nice if civilian nuclear reactors cut coal consumption in a state or something but they dont

[pseudo saddle]

They do by 25%

Civ reactors reduce energy consumption by 25%

Dams do -65%

[distant knoll]

Well, breakthrough is actually pretty good

[crystal sandal]

yes they do... factory's in the same state use less coal

[pseudo saddle]

Again why is the literal holy grail of clean energy reducing your energy consumption less than a dam?

Idk its dumb

[true needle]

agreed

[true needle]

they do?

[marsh ravine]

yes

[pseudo saddle]

Civ reactor reduces state energy demands by -25%
Dams reduce it by -65%

Dams are likely stronger since you cant actually build a dam its focus only

But given how long it takes to research civ reactors if you rush it

[marsh ravine]

when do we get to build dams

it will DEFINITELY be balanced!

[storm ingot]

why is one of their reichskommisariats in your faction

[viscid stirrup]

tuff

[pseudo saddle]

You gotta get atomic research which is a 1940 tech, do the nuclear reactor special project, get construction 3 which you should have THEN you can do civ reactors

You probably only get civ reactors if you rush it by 1943

[daring geyser]

dam bro

badum tss!

[marsh ravine]

let me play china

[vernal river]

whats the highest casualties yall have gotten before

[daring geyser]

We don't have many days

[marsh ravine]

not high enough

[vernal river]

this is my game so far'

historical china

[tulip thorn]

Im italy

[vernal river]

also the allies are at war with the comintern too but there isnt a war screen for some reason

[tulip thorn]

germany has over 20k fighters

[tulip thorn]

Thats just the name of my russian puppet

[vernal river]

those chinese casualties are more of a small protest though

[tulip thorn]

World war italy

[hazy cave]

What's the best doctrines for fighting the japanese as the New Fengtian Clique?

[errant plover]

why don't have i have range here

i have a port literally off the coast of the us

[pseudo saddle]

Is it set as the home base?

If its not it wont draw range from there

[errant plover]

graaah

i hate navy

[pseudo saddle]

The home base system sadly made navy even more awkward

If you hit the little gear icon next to the home base the game will auto change the home base to whatever is the most suitable

[daring geyser]

in a week, jolly hoi4 will be real

it's not casualities it's ppl receiving coal