hoi4-general

[plucky sedge]

i just found out if you play china and defeat japan before they do the focus to get wargoals on the allies, they get locked out of that focus and they cant do anything

[craggy trail]

I'm sure Road to 56 or Kaiserreich can fill your taste for content on those specific countries

[grand wolf]

Its an east Asia dlc not central

[hard glade]

Thank God for the /s at the end

[subtle axle]

is no compromise no surrender good?

[viscid stirrup]

its like the faction joining achievement

[subtle axle]

like the new focuses for jaoan ccp kmt enall?

[tulip thorn]

I think so

[viscid stirrup]

not worth ur money

dont buy it

[subtle axle]

what but ccp W

[viscid stirrup]

wait for the sumer discount of 2029

or until it becomes free

[tulip thorn]

CCP is just as fun as before

and even more op

[still loom]

CAS is so good man. Why did I even say it's bad?

[viscid stirrup]

man the guns became free

[tulip thorn]

Japanese focus tree is peak

[subtle axle]

shud i try ccp once on no comp no surr after my german reich playthru on the prev version?

[viscid stirrup]

DONT buy the DLC

[plucky sedge]

wait if you defeat japan as china fast, that means they get locked out of their focuses for war against the allies, meaning that the usa wont go to war (at least not for a long time) and therefore by beating japan as china, youre technically helping germany a bit

although in my game they are still losing to the ussr lol

[tepid crown]

Lmao. Good luck beating them fast in Ironman mode

[plucky sedge]

i beat them 1940

they only had 1-2 divisons per tile across the whole border so i just broke through and flooded manchuria and korea

i got spammed by naval invasions but used warlord divisions to contain them

wasnt ironman mode but i had no mods or anything to help me and i didnt use the console so

[edgy wedge]

Is anyone else bothered that you have to assign all task forces of a fleet to a single port instead of being able to spread em out?

[tepid crown]

Just set it to auto

Then click which ever sea zones you want them in and they automatically move

[oak charm]

hi chat

[edgy wedge]

Good eveni

[slim nexus]

GIOD MORNI

[brittle cypress]

ok so if you convert all your divisions into tanks you gotta wait a while to get xp

*mastery

kind of like one div training

[heavy vigil]

yk if you ignore the balancing the new update is pretty cool

[primal timber]

right

[brittle cypress]

now that i have given myself 5 million of all equipment

i am actually gaining mastery

[slim nexus]

Pouppet akl pupet all

[brittle cypress]

so yes you need them to be equipped

[still loom]

this is crazy man

[brittle cypress]

you also need fuel

this is very unfortunate

[primal timber]

now i just have china

[oak charm]

currently playing my first match as biblically accurate italy :)

i.e stumbling my way through wars like a maniac

[tulip thorn]

The Italian way

[patent thistle]

austria be suffering ever since i decleared independence (bohemia and slovenia being austrian puppets)

[oak charm]

on the upside i have italian yugoslavia now

[still loom]

This coal is very stupid

[urban jasper]

As Nationalist China how do I take generals of other warlords? Before I could integrate them and I get the generals, now when I annex I don’t get any.

[still loom]

I am gonna remove some mils at this point

[oak charm]

props to them, i was gonna invade them in a bit. oh well i can just murder albania instead

[heavy vigil]

😭

im trying to play china but the game crashes from being in the focus tree screen

[patent thistle]

i am honestly just waiting for austria to be anschlussed early at this point-

[tulip thorn]

💔

[heavy vigil]

maybe if i try a third time itll be different

[oak charm]

is it considered bad if i took over a year to conquer ethiopia 😬

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-time-annoyed-gif-22683243

[heavy vigil]

as who, ita?

[oak charm]

yes

first game

[heavy vigil]

ehhh

italy is a notoriously bad beginner nation

[oak charm]

mfw the tutorial starts you off in italy

[patent thistle]

i have seen someone lose in ethiopia-

[heavy vigil]

no natural resources, need to finish ethiopia in like 100 days, lot of ports to be invaded

balance of power mechanic punishing you losing states

[oak charm]

yeah ethiopia seems to take a while

[heavy vigil]

all your eco coming from annexing yugo

[oak charm]

because mountains

[heavy vigil]

no thats not why

[patent thistle]

💀

[heavy vigil]

the supply is bad and you probably didnt have air up

[oak charm]

i did have air up

i think

the supply was very bad yes

[heavy vigil]

it crashed again 😔

[tulip thorn]

This is tragic

[heavy vigil]

may 1936

its over

[tulip thorn]

I had my game crash 4 times in a row during my Philippines game

[oak charm]

how long does it take to justify btw

is there like a way to check

[heavy vigil]

yes when you start justifying it gives a time

[tulip thorn]

it tells you

[patent thistle]

you dont "need" to win in like 100 days. it just makes the remaining game more confortable

[oak charm]

ohhh you need to start early ok ok

[heavy vigil]

if you dont win in 100 days its better to just leave day 1

[quasi shoal]

im so broke 😔

[heavy vigil]

because you are not making your IC investment back

[still loom]

Please tell me not working factories do not consume coal

[oak charm]

MUSSOLINI I AM DOING MY BEST HERE STOP SLAPPING ME WITH THINGS I DONT KNOW!!!!

[quasi shoal]

hover over them, they tell you what it means

[oak charm]

i know

its just like

man's got crazy high expectations for someone who doesnt know what they're doing 😭

[quasi shoal]

you learn from doing

just do shit until it works out

[oak charm]

true!

[marsh ravine]

The more you read the more you learn!

[agile ridge]

is anyone else having problems starting the game? the map error keeps coming

[quasi shoal]

no

[heavy vigil]

please dont play italy as tutorial nation

it hates you

[quasi shoal]

I hate it

[heavy vigil]

you need to do specific builds with specific timings

which is fine

[oak charm]

biblically accurate italy gameplay tho

[heavy vigil]

but very bad for a new player

[azure tangle]

Been doing a qing play through as my first thing with the new dlc, this is genuinely a lot more fun then I thought it’d be

[quasi shoal]

lore accurate italy tho

you do nothing useful and be an active deadweight to your alliance

[azure tangle]

It’s slow at first cuz it’s mostly focuses but after I get the Chinese civil war underway ive been constantly at war

[quasi shoal]

iirc the qing focus tree wasn't changed

[oak charm]

this is like those mobile game ads

[quasi shoal]

unless it's a nationalist china thing

[azure tangle]

It was changed a small bit

But it mainly remained the same

[marsh ravine]

They got a tiny change

[azure tangle]

Some things were renamed and now you can form your own republic or prc

[true needle]

ok ive GOT to get myself a sub carrier

[oak charm]

i am filled with rage

[edgy wedge]

The Man Reich

[quasi shoal]

ok now that I actually know how to island hop, japan is pretty fun

and it was before the dlc tbh, I just didn't know how to island hop like at all

[broken pier]

Which fun Axis minors to play with

[quasi shoal]

if you have gotterdammerung, hungary is pretty fun

[tulip thorn]

Bulgaria and hungary

Romania can be fun aswell

[oak charm]

We live in a hoi4 tutorial world

[oak charm]

Japan if it locked in

[tulip thorn]

Romania is also my favorite nation to play in mp

[quasi shoal]

romania's focus tree seems too small tbh

[quasi shoal]

japan would not have won against the US irl

the only reason I won this is because I ate up most of the soviets

[distant knoll]

ah just reached hoi in my mp mega campaign

[quasi shoal]

multiplayer mega campaign?

[distant knoll]

so excited for nothing ever happens

[quasi shoal]

sounds like hell

[distant knoll]

yes

[marsh ravine]

Bulgaria

[distant knoll]

took up 8 hours to get through vic3

a few days through eu4

[quasi shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-nothing-look-at-the-time-nothing-clock-nothing-ever-happens-clock-gif-4518983960573307132

[oak charm]

I can’t wait to get involved in land wars in Egypt

[distant knoll]

exactly

hoi4 convertor is shit

[quasi shoal]

are you spectating or are you playing a country

[distant knoll]

playing

[quasi shoal]

who

[distant knoll]

started as grenada in eu4

friend started as the US, custom nation

[quasi shoal]

why 😭

[distant knoll]

its peak

[quasi shoal]

it really is nothing ever happens for you then

[atomic grove]

how tf did this happen???

[distant knoll]

i took all of italy, iberia and all fo south and central america

hit 1 billion in gdp in vic3

[quasi shoal]

😭

[distant knoll]

Wrong place

[leaden mulch]

these stats can not be real

[leaden mulch]

this is in vanilla btw

[heavy vigil]

nice

[magic tinsel]

we saw u accidently put the trailer for the dlc instead

[leaden mulch]

yeah...

[distant knoll]

Ive had a billion casualties

[heavy vigil]

me

[leaden mulch]

bro plays vanilla

smh

[heavy vigil]

wdym

[mortal siren]

hi

wanna play?

[cedar lance]

im producing and building a LOT Of ships as Estonia

[leaden mulch]

this is how many hours in vanilla i have

[heavy vigil]

i dont play pure vanilla

[leaden mulch]

as opposed to how many hours in mods i have

[heavy vigil]

my stats are from modded tab

[leaden mulch]

i see

fair fair

[heavy vigil]

your battles are larger huh

[dusky burrow]

I've decided to play Iran for the past two days, and oof

The coal is really hurting, I require thousands of coal now

[leaden mulch]

I don't recall what happened in that 8 millions battle

[edgy wedge]

How do I check how many naval invasions can I do?

[leaden mulch]

I think its time you invade the americas

[magic tinsel]

how do u have 4.29G casualties what even is that

[dusky burrow]

Also that tiny japanese puppet in Kyushu I have has like 500k manpower so blue Japan is in for a nasty surprise

[cedar lance]

i have SO MANY thousands of ships as ESTONIA

[heavy vigil]

i recall what happened in my 887 day battle...

pain....

[dusky burrow]

887 day battle 😭

[heavy vigil]

i think it was chile vs peru

[leaden mulch]

2 and a half year long battle

literally WW1 ahh battle

[dusky burrow]

how many millions of people were involved

[heavy vigil]

not that many lol

its literally just chile vs peru

[dusky burrow]

I see

BTW American Japan has about the same manpower, if I train enough mountaineer marines I wonder if I can just conquer it

[mighty brook]

anyone else noticing the allies just struggling?

[leaden mulch]

yeah

no masteries to speak of

[heavy vigil]

is this a new flag with the update??

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, I was ableo to take these for free because the Germans had capitulated them

[dusky burrow]

I imagine

[oak charm]

Hitler to Stalin circa 1940 or smth

[cedar lance]

ESTONIA OVER ALL

[dusky burrow]

If you're wondering what Germany looks like

[hybrid frigate]

Chak s better at this than I am

[dusky burrow]

Also this is the first time I've seen Ecuador win its war against Peru

[iron helm]

bro got 0.2863 mm³/(kg·s²) casualties

[dusky burrow]

37000 tanks in one battle rip

[heavy vigil]

air force was as a max buff world conquest mengkukuo game

and navy was as china

not a world conquest

just china

[dusky burrow]

demchugdongrub and naval bombers be like

[primal timber]

hitler has made

quite

quite a few enemies

[mortal hamlet]

just a few

[grand wolf]

Just beat china as japan a few weeks after ww2 began

[tired reef]

wait does it make wc harder?

i haven't played since before dlc

[rustic turtle]

when is the patch for hoi4?

[oak charm]

Canon

[dusky burrow]

Yeah if you're not like the US or UK

[grand wolf]

Even the Japanese?

[primal timber]

im the japanese 🙏

[hollow ferry]

hiya, my current ver is 1.17 and millinenum wont wokr

[simple plank]

Was talking to a N@zi totaly cooked her up before and now she doesnt even hate communism why did germany even invade the soviets then😂 only thinks its bullsh!t

[grand wolf]

Ohhhh

[primal timber]

wanted to snatch indochina after they flipped the french

[grand wolf]

The jews control the banks💔💔💔 #free the Japanese banks

[grand wolf]

Makes sense

[rustic quail]

teenage girls when it comes to having a political opinion:

typical foids

[primal timber]

oh and i accidentally trapped a few raj troops but don't tell them that

[simple plank]

The jews are filled with stalin steroids🥀

[grand wolf]

Took me till October 6th 1939 to beat the Chinese

[rustic quail]

thats insane

[grand wolf]

Mmmmm papa stalin

[primal timber]

i did it in

[rustic quail]

w collabs?

[primal timber]

what was it

like late 1940

[grand wolf]

Nah first time ive actually had a chance to beat them

[marble stone]

w

[hollow ferry]

what da code for 1.16.9

nvm all good

[primal timber]

just take shanghai and force them to split hairs

you only have to capitulate chiang

[grand wolf]

I was riding along the coast with 30 width infantry that had 4 line artillery battalions

[simple plank]

Like i cooked her up before by saying h!tler didnt smoke wen that girl wanted to smoke a sigarete almost got me banned from the server while i had clear evidence i had posters and all those websites and still thought it was photo shop

[simple plank]

As a turk i can confirm that stalin is from steel

[rustic quail]

ngl anyone who isnt german and supports nazism is stupid, the nazis eventually wanted to make a german world and kill anyone who isnt german

[rustic quail]

MERHABA KNK

[grand wolf]

Steel?

[rustic quail]

!!!

[primal timber]

now uhhh

[rustic quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-10349937606553433786

[tired reef]

???

[grand wolf]

It could've all been avoided if Austria took the blame for ww1

[rustic quail]

that was the plan for the nazis...

they killed everyone dude

[grand wolf]

Although hitler probably would've just taken control of Austria

[simple plank]

Stalin/ stal=steel (in russian) +in

[primal timber]

i am almost definitely not beating the soviets but i can try

[tired reef]

so you can be a nazi as long as ur german

???

[rustic quail]

no

[grand wolf]

Stalinium

[amber finch]

stål in swedish

[still loom]

Okay my nukes are ready

[rustic quail]

i said its quite ironic for anyone who isnt german to support nazism

[still loom]

Where do I bomb first

[primal timber]

but first

[rustic quail]

and being a nazi in general

is stupidity

[simple plank]

stal in russian!

[primal timber]

you're lowkey pissing me off by making me split ny army into two demchug

[rustic quail]

demiriln

[grand wolf]

Be Japanese instead

[rustic quail]

yess unit 731

[primal timber]

so im gonna blow you up

[rustic quail]

experiments on innocent civilians so cool!

[still loom]

Actually there's nowhere close other than UK so, London

[grand wolf]

Just dont be a Japanese person from pre ww2

[gleaming iron]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-herobrine-who-are-we-looking-for-aah-who-are-we-looking-for-who-are-we-looking-for-herobrine-gif-16699732030611984739

[simple plank]

Its just holdingon to dead memories

[rustic quail]

is it only me

or did they changed the map

it looks hella like black ice rn

[primal timber]

actually you know what

[grand wolf]

Nah don't cheat just mass spam railroads

[gleaming iron]

mengkuko

[hollow ferry]

yo I got queestion, why after dowloading the millennium dawn mod, my game kept crashing

[primal timber]

now that frontline looks better

[rustic quail]

as a communist china main,

supply is a myth

its all a myth brochacho

[primal timber]

supply is a myth created by big railroad to make you waste your civs

[rustic quail]

the glorious mao zedong supplies for us all

exactly

[grand wolf]

Its a myth because trucks

[gleaming iron]

cause you got an old cpu

[rustic quail]

dude i barely know how supply works and i got like ~3k hours on the game

all i do is just upgrade railroads

and truck supply

and pray

[hollow ferry]

na

[gleaming iron]

what cpu is it

[hollow ferry]

Idk, I was not the who made it

[primal timber]

clausewitz when it comes to frying your CPU

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[gleaming iron]

dude the proccesor

[hollow ferry]

Dunno

[gleaming iron]

hit ctrl + shift + esc

click more details and go in performance tab

if windows 11 then idk

[grand wolf]

Thats basically how it works just upgrade it😂

[viscid stirrup]

cheese

TANNA TUVA DLC WHEN????🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[primal timber]

why is my battleplan named F U

i didn't touch that

it was like that when i drew the line over the soviets

[plucky sedge]

idk why but i was really hoping for a mini korea focus tree in this dlc

like we got with uruguay and paraguay

[grand wolf]

The battleplan is Chinese

[grand wolf]

Korea aint really free like they are tho

[plucky sedge]

yeah ik but maybe a disaster in japan that releases korea and allows you to play as them or something

[grand wolf]

Democratic japan path or communist would work

[plucky sedge]

yeah

[grand wolf]

Korea borders suck tbh

[hollow ferry]

what is the latest extended tech tree mod?

[grand wolf]

No clue

[hollow ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKbRyyBR9Q&t=1097s the one used heree,

[rustic quail]

thats so boring

[grand wolf]

Must be modern weapons

[rustic quail]

ive seen a guy do research all on ussr

and beat them as germany

insane work bro

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-green-patrick-regular-patrick-green-patrick-gif-17336496471953936553

damn this is so cool

[quasi shoal]

successful naval invasion of the uk

I am japan btw

[still loom]

haha

[quasi shoal]

and I cant offer military access to the axis

I had to rush my middle eastern forces over to the uk

the germans are so horrible

I gotta do all of ts myself

the germans have almost 1k divisions and they can't even take africa

[slow cloak]

Guys how do you increase faction influence as China? I literally have 0%

[grand wolf]

Hover over the circle where faction influence is and see what ur lacking

[slow cloak]

I got -346 from contribution, how do you increase that?

[grand wolf]

No clue

[slow cloak]

Dang

[quasi shoal]

wtf

I just won?

I annexed 90% of the allies and this pops up

I won hoi4???

[grand wolf]

You can win????

[quasi shoal]

I guess so???

[grand wolf]

New goal

[quasi shoal]

I think it has smth to do with the factions

[rustic turtle]

no

u lost

[quasi shoal]

I did not lose

🧐

[rustic turtle]

nobody wants to be japanese

u lost

[quasi shoal]

japan is fun in the dlc

if it wasn't fun I would've refunded it by now

[grand wolf]

Alright

I will get nukes before the usa

[quasi shoal]

I did that but I didn't end up using them 😔

it only popped up that screen once I finished the allied defeat peace conference

so maybe smth with that

[grand wolf]

What if, I raid pearl harbor but with nukes

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[mellow jetty]

Hiroshima Uno reverse card

[grand wolf]

Yes

[mellow jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-elmo-fire-rocket-league-gif-26200608

[grand wolf]

Hirohito will soon be the god of japan

[quasi shoal]

why

[mellow jetty]

Healthy God Hirohito

https://tenor.com/view/hirohito-hirohito-my-beloved-gif-24107749

[quasi shoal]

hirohito currently rules 1/4th of the world

I have 200k tanks built but only 12 crappy tank divisions

[grand wolf]

Because yes

[grand wolf]

Thats alot of tanks

I got negative 8.3k tanks

[quasi shoal]

light or medium

I stopped light production cuz I love assault engi companies

[grand wolf]

Medium

[quasi shoal]

and motorized recon is good enough

[quasi shoal]

uhh get more factories

get better tanks idfk

[grand wolf]

I got 12 on them rn

[quasi shoal]

speaking of which, I still only have med howitzer 1

[grand wolf]

But I want a bigger navy sooooo

[quasi shoal]

i've had 50 factories on them since 1940

it's 1949

[quasi shoal]

get both

[warm otter]

how to invade France as Italy alone
the mountains with Alpine forces fail to even barge through

[slim nexus]

I wonder what fascist or demo kumul is

[grand wolf]

Im tryna, these super heavy battleships dont make themselves

[grand wolf]

Push through Switzerland

[warm otter]

I have to break Switzerland's status of being neutral?

[grand wolf]

Nah just justify a war on them way before you invade france

Or

Invade france in 1936

[warm otter]

no

[quasi shoal]

or you can just not

[quasi shoal]

go through germany

[grand wolf]

Why

[quasi shoal]

expensive

take too long

[warm otter]

Germany non historic became German empire

[quasi shoal]

a bunch of regular battleships is better than one superheavy battleship

[grand wolf]

But big gun

[quasi shoal]

yeah I know

my point stands

I meant go through them as in invade them first

[warm otter]

during the civil War?

[grand wolf]

Yes

[quasi shoal]

any point

[warm otter]

civil war is easier

[drifting kiln]

communist china is actually hard now 😭

before you could just invade every warlord then kill china during jap war

[warm otter]

non-historic:
"China declared war on Communist China"

[warm otter]

Is the game fixed?

[quasi shoal]

?

[drifting kiln]

hoi4 is never fixed

[quasi shoal]

wdym

[drifting kiln]

otherwise it would be called hoi5 probably

[warm otter]

1.17

[mighty basalt]

he he he he he

[quasi shoal]

huh?

I mean i'd assume it's fixed since i'm in the game rn

NO WAY HOLY SHIT

they dissolved the axis

and im a fascist faction that's influential

[warm otter]

is porting mods from 1.16 to 1.17 easy?

[warm otter]

????

[quasi shoal]

germany is now in my faction 😭

[quasi shoal]

brussels treaty or sumn cuz the war ended

[quasi shoal]

probably not

[warm otter]

wdym the war ended

[quasi shoal]

the allies are dead

as in the faction is completely gone

[patent thistle]

can we all agree the soviets need this? (the 4th of the marat class)

[warm otter]

without DLC's

[quasi shoal]

still prolly not

[warm otter]

new mod then

[quasi shoal]

I lead all of this omg

[quasi shoal]

would be more difficult since you're making it from scratch

coding isn't easy

[warm otter]

My mod didn't reach the overhaul stage

[warm otter]

I T A L Y

[quasi shoal]

update

[grand wolf]

Wow the Philippines capitulated so fast

[quasi shoal]

I love clicking decisions to annex all of my puppets and gain 25% free compliance

[hot patrol]

LOLL

[grand wolf]

Grandpa's fight aint over

[warm otter]

What is the mod that can give me a dark mode sea

[mighty basalt]

looks about right. strap a couple of claymores on him too and you got yourself a stop gab solution

[quasi shoal]

the night

[warm otter]

AVANTI!!!

• Italian Social Republic civilian

this?

[patent thistle]

i caused complete disarray in the nationalist lines-

[warm otter]

I tried to help as Italy
same result

[patent thistle]

also i am playing with a ww1 borders mod

[warm otter]

that means

[patent thistle]

ye i am also buffed here but let me remind you what germany all gets

[warm otter]

Austria has Trento, Hungary has Transylvania

[patent thistle]

also dont question yugo, its properly just there to annoy the austrians

[warm otter]

where's poland

it should be liberated

[smoky stone]

well i guess it is eu time

[patent thistle]

change my mind mountaneers are op in spain

[warm otter]

paratroopers are the alternative

[patent thistle]

uh thanks norway?

[quartz hollow]

im stuck in the tutorial in 8/15 cuz idk how to set missions to air bases

can anyone help

[devout trench]

why are you doing the tutorial

[quartz hollow]

becasue im new

[devout trench]

play the game and suffer like we all did

[patent thistle]

rip italian and german voleteers

[devout trench]

thy who does not fail does not learn

[quartz hollow]

i have failed

[devout trench]

then fail more

600 hours in the game and still dont know navy 💔

[quartz hollow]

sounds like a minor skill issue

[patent thistle]

i actually didnt suffer that much when i started, thank bittersteel

[patent thistle]

true

[devout trench]

i didnt watch any hoi content for my first like 200 hours

learned through green and red circle

[quartz hollow]

good for you

[magic tinsel]

???

[devout trench]

roosevelt swapped teams

[patent thistle]

i now have an ottoman puppet~

[slim nexus]

USA casually being supportive until Philipines

[smoky stone]

fym rule the waves

Im poland

Spain joined allies in 1938

[drifting kiln]

do i just have a skill issue or is japan buffed (playing as commie china btw)

[smoky stone]

dlc focusing on japan

riddle me this batman

[drifting kiln]

dlc doesnt always = buff

[smoky stone]

but it does in this case as japan got a whole new focus tree

[south stirrup]

Why cant I start collab government?

[drifting kiln]

not because they got a new focus tree, bc communist china is harder now with a new focus tree

[drifting kiln]

probably insufficent intel networks

[south stirrup]

its not an option for me I meant

intel is 100%

[drifting kiln]

like its just not on the tab?

[south stirrup]

yeah

[smoky stone]

did they add this in the new dlc?

i dont remember this at all

[south stirrup]

nvm im stupid im playing democratic Japan

[hazy cave]

Does the border war soviet china does against ningxia happen in a specific moment when done by ai?

If so can I do the encirclement campaign while they're busy with ningxia?

[warm otter]

issue trade embargo = war

[smoky stone]

no no no, i mean the bottom one, impose naval blockade

[warm otter]

idk

[smoky stone]

bro manchuko you're dead as hell

[warm otter]

United Kingdom guarentees Manchukuo's independence.

[smoky stone]

funny you say that

[heavy vigil]

how did korea become free

[smoky stone]

japan civil war

[heavy vigil]

ah cool

[warm otter]

one time i wanted to invade yugoslavia

guess what happens

[smoky stone]

RULE BRITANIA

[grand wolf]

The game cant be this easy im not even using tanks

[warm otter]

bro

i used everything

and failed to invade france

because of stupid

uk guarentee

[smoky stone]

new dlc adds stuff to asia

me lets play poland

[warm otter]

everytime i want to invade a european country:
guarentee

[grand wolf]

I almost have all of s.e asia, ive only lost 231k men in this war

[warm otter]

i legit cant invade france alone

if UK is there

[drifting kiln]

guys is this winnable ?

[grand wolf]

Just use a 30width infantry unit

[grand wolf]

Anything is winable

[drifting kiln]

i have like 72 divs but they are all shit..

will be atleast 5 years until any allied help arrives

nvm they attacked soviets..

[warm otter]

yes

just

[grand wolf]

Who are you?

[warm otter]

tag CHN

[warm otter]

lets try

[drifting kiln]

ahhhh

[drifting kiln]

the small one, and im trying to beat, the big one

[grand wolf]

Its a 30width with 4 line artillery and its working amazing against the allies rn

[grand wolf]

You might die

[drifting kiln]

stalin might help me ill see

they will have like 5 good divs very every 10 shit ones so i might be cooked yea

[smoky stone]

looks inside

puppet of japan

[grand wolf]

They dont seem so free

[drifting kiln]

they are free becasue democracy or something

[tropic lance]

MANAGED DEMOCRACY!

[grand wolf]

Super earth

[clear dagger]

the ultimate trial has begun

[drifting kiln]

I think a german guy is running your army bro

[clear dagger]

he got bored

[grand wolf]

Luxembourg is too big make it smaller

[drifting kiln]

he wanted a challenge ig

[grand wolf]

Alright time to prepare a naval invasion of the uk as japan

[shadow mango]

Which dlcs would yall recommend to get
Ive played hoi4 for likee 500 600h

Vanilla

I was thinking abt agency

Nd no step back

[drifting kiln]

all of them

[patent thistle]

dont, i suspect it would be the next one becoming free

[drifting kiln]

minimum just get the vehicle designers otherwise u can just play rt56 for focus trees

[shadow mango]

Wdym

[patent thistle]

i suspect that la-resistance will become free too some day

[shadow mango]

There are free dlcs?

[clear dagger]

i love having no air force to combat with

[patent thistle]

considering the next DLC is going to be most likely north america focused agencies become very important

[gaunt charm]

hey Italy pro tip, i am legionary romania

[patent thistle]

why did i build those-

[grand wolf]

Okay im sending my 4 superheavy battleships to the English channel

[shadow mango]

Okay

How long until the new one

[grand wolf]

Let's go the usa will have shit to do

[shadow mango]

Gets a discount

Do you think it will get one on Christmas?

[shadow mango]

💀

How

[clear dagger]

thats how

[shadow mango]

A

[clear dagger]

they also have like 7 million guns lol

[shadow mango]

[grand wolf]

I control 96% of the English channel

[edgy wedge]

The last 4% has the entire RN

[grand wolf]

I have my fleet on always engage its at 99% now

[plucky sedge]

does anyone know of a mod that automatically pauses the game when a focus or research finishes?

[grand wolf]

I destroyed 20 British destroyers 1 light cruiser and 1 heavy cruiser and I only lost 2 destroyers

[plucky sedge]

i find i get too locked in microing my divisions that i accidentally just click off any notification that pops up and next thing i know all my research slots are empty

[grand wolf]

Theres an option for that

[plucky sedge]

wait really?

just in the game settings?

[grand wolf]

Yeah

[plucky sedge]

holy W

[grand wolf]

"Pause on notifications"

[plucky sedge]

thanks brotein shake

[grand wolf]

I sunk 2 British aircraft carriers and lots nothing not even a plane

[hot patrol]

brotosynthesis do you know how this works

[plucky sedge]

the new navy shit?

nah bro im still tryna learn

i think you need to patrol now but im not sure

im actually watching a tutorial rn lmaoo

[grand wolf]

Yes patrol

[hot patrol]

i'm using patrol

[green moss]

Italo-Ethiopian War, but Ethiopia is as unstable as modern Somalia

[grand wolf]

What the

[plucky sedge]

no shot you need to have your big fleets patrolling now

[hot patrol]

how does iit grow

[plucky sedge]

i thought you just need bigger patrol fleets now

and you can still use your main navy to sink the other navies

[grand wolf]

Just have the main one on patrol with always engage done

[plucky sedge]

okay so i just think i figured it out

you need a small patrol navy

and your main ships on strike force

and strike force multiplies your existing dominance

so if you just have a fleet on strike force then you wont exert any dominance

[green moss]

one bite at a time

[plucky sedge]

you need to be patrolling too

but dont use your main navy to patrol because say goodbye to your fuel

[green moss]

Historical Italy is winning this war

no wonder why

[grand wolf]

I just have mine on patrol with always engage

[clear dagger]

💀

[green moss]

and it stopped gaf

[hot patrol]

i now have 24 destroyers in my patrol force

[plucky sedge]

i hope youre the usa brochacho

[hot patrol]

dominance isn't going up

[green moss]

Broseph Stalin

[plucky sedge]

skill issue

wait lets see

[hot patrol]

ok brommunity college

broses, king of the hebros

[green moss]

Yammexander the Great

[grand wolf]

Nah im japan, ive only lost 2 ships to the royal navy

[plucky sedge]

how have you got fuel lil bro

blud is importing the whole country of azerbaijan

[grand wolf]

I own all of china and s.e asia

I got 167 fuel

Plus research

[plucky sedge]

blud has 0 planes and 0 tanks

[grand wolf]

Nah i got planes and tanks

[plucky sedge]

I UNDERSTAND IT NOW

chat i might be the navy goat

fr fr

i just need to figure out how these naval headquarters work now

[gleaming iron]

why does british raj have full of aden

[green moss]

Road to 56

[gleaming iron]

oohhh

[green moss]

I'm also experimenting with console right now

[gleaming iron]

can you show me raj focus tree?

i havent played road to 56

[green moss]

that's the political part

[hot patrol]

Na-bro-leon Bronaparte
Brohammad Ali
Brolitical Opinion
Brobi Wan Kenobi
Brollercoaster
Brolaf
Brotron Collider
ebrola
brofessional
Brobafett
Abroham Lincoin
Han Brolo
Broman Empire
C3PBro
marlBRO
Bromosexual
Theodore Brosevelt
Bromosapien
Brophile
Brobot
Brodolf
Broasted Brotato
Brocicle

[plucky sedge]

road to 56 india tree is pretty gas

[gleaming iron]

thanks

[gleaming iron]

really?

[plucky sedge]

theres like elections and stuff and you gotta lobby your states to vote for you

good content

id recommend it

[gleaming iron]

alright

[hot patrol]

they aren't even in the warr bruh

[atomic grove]

bug

[hot patrol]

what does this even meann

[atomic grove]

tf????????

[icy wyvern]

Can anyone help me get the new dlc, I am subscribed but can’t find it

[sacred iron]

Where can I report a bug?

[timid mauve]

wow

[green moss]

Russian Empire can become a Japanese puppet because of one focus

[finite plume]

Now that I think about it, wouldn't Mao be considered a modern politician?

[green moss]

I think he is considered as modern politician

He assumed power in like 1948-1949

despite resisting the Japanese and Nationalists for like decades

[finite plume]

He also was Chairman for nearly till the 80's I believe

[green moss]

He died on September 9, 1976

so yeah

[copper cobalt]

o.O

[finite plume]

Das' one expensive building

[ivory hull]

whats the best navy doctrine?

[trim pike]

@drifting kiln dont say that

[copper cobalt]

wha

have we figured out fusion powerplants irl

[trim pike]

Whats the bug

[trim pike]

No

[copper cobalt]

that explains the 200k expense

[misty fossil]

30 more years

trust

we already have made fusion reactors that can create more energy than the amount used to start the fusion process, but its still not enough to make it commercially viable

thing is we just need to be able to sustain the fusion process for longer

as far as im aware its a material technology bottleneck

[sacred iron]

There is something wrong with the german translation

[grand wolf]

Theoretically could we like create uranium inside a fusion reactor

[misty fossil]

you.... dont create uranium in a fusion reactor

[grand wolf]

I said theoretically

[misty fossil]

we make super hot plasma to fuse deuterium into helium

no

well i mean you can fuse elements until you create uranium, but you dont do that in a reactor

but fusion gains net energy until you reach iron, past that point it takes more energy to fuse than it releases

[warm otter]

peak hoi4

[grand wolf]

What if we dont stop at uranium and keep fusing

[misty fossil]

well good luck finding the funding for that

[grand wolf]

Ill just steal the things required

[misty fossil]

we can keep fusing and creating heavier elements

if you look at the elemental table thing you can see 2 rows of radioactive elements fused in test labs and nuclear explosions, located at the bottom

[balmy matrix]

how do i win a war. im new and i lost to ethiopia in the italy-ethiopian 2nd war

[misty fossil]

someone more familiar with physics can probably explain better than i do

[balmy matrix]

😢

[trim pike]

I can

[misty fossil]

please do

im interested

[trim pike]

Im good at phy too

Which part

[misty fossil]

upper limit of fusion, ie at what point can you not fuse anymore

[grand wolf]

Play as spain trust me

[misty fossil]

and explain to unknown how a fusion reactor works

[trim pike]

Pratically or theoretically

[misty fossil]

both

it can get confusing

[trim pike]

Practically u can fuse up to iron and no further

[misty fossil]

why not

[balmy matrix]

which spain

[misty fossil]

i mean not in a power generation kind of way

[grand wolf]

Communist spain

[copper cobalt]

the soviet puppet spain

[misty fossil]

of course you release less energy than you put into the fusion process past iron

[trim pike]

Because binding energy per nucleon decrease after iron since the nucleus gets too big for strong nuclear forces

[grand wolf]

Does that mean infinite iron?

[trim pike]

Yes

Thats practically

[balmy matrix]

i dont know the mechanics of the game but who said i dont know history 😡

[trim pike]

Theoretically u can go as far as u want

But u cant bcs energy demand is too high

[misty fossil]

yes but iron alone isnt that useful

[grand wolf]

Become the spain that very good friends with stalinium

[trim pike]

There is no way humans can realistically do upper limit

[balmy matrix]

🤔

[trim pike]

In fact iron fusion is only in huge supergiant stars alr

[misty fossil]

so energy requirement just increases exponentially

[trim pike]

Fusion reactors are for power

[gaunt thorn]

anyone know whats the historical answer to this

[grand wolf]

Just wait till we harness the power of the sun

[trim pike]

Btw we havent found out how to sustain the reaction long enough

[grand wolf]

Top one

[trim pike]

Solar power:

[misty fossil]

unknown was asking if it was possible to fuse uranium in a fusion reactor

[misty fossil]

top one

[gaunt thorn]

Also

[grand wolf]

Dyson sphere

[gaunt thorn]

Does the commercial nuclear reacter give energy

If not it should

[trim pike]

No because we can conjure up the conditions for it

[grand wolf]

Maybe, would be nice if it does

[trim pike]

Cant*

[misty fossil]

wdym conjure

[gaunt thorn]

What does it even do rn

[severe kraken]

Hello

[grand wolf]

Makes nukes

[pseudo saddle]

No its impossible, theres a strong repulsion element between the positively charged nuclei, the atoms will literally repel each other preventing fusion. This is why they use elements that are lighter such as Deuterium

[severe kraken]

Guys

[gaunt thorn]

The commercial one doesnt

[severe kraken]

My millinuim dawn keeps crashing

[pseudo saddle]

Like Unless you put an UNGODLY amount of energy in to overcome the repulsion but its not worth the output

[grand wolf]

Top is historical, middle is monarchy, bottom is democratic and communist

[misty fossil]

thats a good explanation

[grand wolf]

Really?

[trim pike]

We cant create the right conditions

[misty fossil]

yeah thats in line with what i understand

[grand wolf]

Does the sun?

[trim pike]

Yes

[trim pike]

Which sun

[hot patrol]

the republic of china has landed in taiwan

[trim pike]

Our sun

[pseudo saddle]

The commercial reactor does make nukes it just makes it at the same speed as the slower but cheaper heavy water reactor

[grand wolf]

User error

[trim pike]

Or stars in general

[misty fossil]

we probably need to heat it to 10^200K to do it or something right

[grand wolf]

Our sun

[pseudo saddle]

But for an ungodly bigger cost

[severe kraken]

Whats that, i am new to the game

Its so hard

[trim pike]

Our sun goes up to helium i think

[silent root]

why can't my ships sail here?

[trim pike]

Only supergiants go to iron cores

[tulip thorn]

You dont have rage

[trim pike]

And the really huge ones

[grand wolf]

What about that one sub thats so big our sun is like a grain of sand compared to it

[misty fossil]

it should have traces of heavy elements

[silent root]

But I got a naval base

[trim pike]

What one sub

[grand wolf]

Thats what the planets are

[misty fossil]

yeah

[pseudo saddle]

The system operates on a new home base mechanic, unless that second base is your "home base" your fleet wont draw range from it

[misty fossil]

well

[grand wolf]

The biggest one

[pseudo saddle]

Ensure that the other base is your home base or click the button to automatically change the home base

[silent root]

This system sucks ASS

[misty fossil]

submarine?

[trim pike]

The limit of stars is iron since beyond that they dont produce energy

[tulip thorn]

You have to change your naval home base

[grand wolf]

Sun*

[trim pike]

They need to produce energy to counteract gravitational pull

[misty fossil]

stephenson 2-18, the biggest one we know of

[trim pike]

Or else they collapse

[grand wolf]

What about a neutron star what's in them

[misty fossil]

neutrons

[trim pike]

Neutrons….

[misty fossil]

(shocking)

[hot patrol]

this ok?

[trim pike]

Thats why theyre called that

[pseudo saddle]

Yeah its a very random overcomplication imo, alternatively you wanna build a naval supply hub there which automatically extends the fleets range as if it was a home base

[grand wolf]

What about a black hole

[gaunt thorn]

what's a good naval strategy for japan

[misty fossil]

awful

[trim pike]

They are supported not by fusion reactions but by neutron degeneracy pressure

[hot patrol]

how do i improve it

[tulip thorn]

What is this ai design

[hot patrol]

i have no tech

[grand wolf]

Superheavy battle ships

Trust me

[hot patrol]

fine i'll research some stuff

[misty fossil]

build 2 carriers and 2 super heavy battleships, then spam destroyers and light cruisers

[drifting kiln]

free speech isnt real

[trim pike]

Black holes are neutron stars but so massive that even neutron degeneracy pressure cant hold them so they collapse to a singularity

[gaunt thorn]

what should i do with the existing stuff?

[misty fossil]

by not building one

[grand wolf]

4 carriers

[gaunt thorn]

refit it or js leave it

[pseudo saddle]

We can't really tell, not even light can escape a black holes event horizon, new discoveries suggest that a black hole actually has completely different laws of physics inside but we cant really tell

[misty fossil]

refit them

[grand wolf]

Interesting

[misty fossil]

people dont know just how powerful refitting can be

[gaunt thorn]

i'm awful at navy but refitting is the one thing i do know

[tulip thorn]

have ship designs changed at all due to the dlc, or are the previous best ships still the best

[pseudo saddle]

You can build more carriers now, the calculation on too many carriers actually depends on your fleet size so the 4 carrier meta may actually change if your a fleet like Britain

[misty fossil]

i dont touch vanilla navy because vanilla designs are awful

[grand wolf]

Leave it be thats what I did and I destroyed the royal navy, I had alot of destroyers

[pseudo saddle]

I love navy but my god they really overcomplicate the system and its so much easier to paradrop

[grand wolf]

Rip new meta

[pseudo saddle]

Im still shocked paratroopers have not been nerfed

[gaunt thorn]

Idk I am trying to get really into it now

[hot patrol]

so i just don't produce a navy?

[pseudo saddle]

Urban insertions were basically guaranteed doom on paratroopers

[misty fossil]

no point

OR

hold on

check if light cruiser spam works

idk if it still works after this update

[tulip thorn]

They changed them a tiny tiny bit for 1.17. Just like naval invasions they have to prepare. Thats literally all I have seen.

I only know that because I had to paradrop japan as communist china

[pseudo saddle]

To give a simple run down assuming your trying to build a fleet from scratch, you wanna build about 2 carriers, a few battleships/battlecruisers and then plenty of light cruisers and destroyers which add the screening efficiency

Thats a basic run down

[misty fossil]

black holes are so crazy. i remember watching this video on it by veritasium that explored the theoretical concept of black holes as part of the einstein-rosen bridge

[warm otter]

what should i do

[tulip thorn]

Im pretty sure it still works lol

[grand wolf]

Good super heavy battleships take about 2 years to make with 5 dockyards so you could build a few lines of those

[hot patrol]

well?

[warm otter]

puppet or take everything

[misty fossil]

im not familiar with base game mechanics

i usually stick to naval mods

[gaunt thorn]

Should I do convoy raiding/escort

[pseudo saddle]

Thats still sadly not a good nerf, paratroopers are easier to produce, more flexible, cheaper to actually utilize compared to a naval invasion

[grand wolf]

Take

[tulip thorn]

I wouldnt know if light cruiser spam still works, because america refused to fight my fleet

[pseudo saddle]

Convoy raiding now reduces enemy dominance, if your trying to secure a sea zone to battle/naval invade you want to patrol and strike force

[tulip thorn]

I know

Its crazy

[misty fossil]

only 2 CVs? this update made them extremely strong from what ive observed

id have at least 5

[pseudo saddle]

I assumed he was building a fleet from scratch

[tulip thorn]

They need a nerf, I literally never use them due to how broken they are

[pseudo saddle]

Which he may not be able to make 5 carriers

[misty fossil]

i mean thats 25 dockyards

[pseudo saddle]

Why cant we put 10 dockyards on capital ships honestly

I have a mod for that and its so nice

Makes doing a navy LARP as soviets so much more viable

[misty fossil]

i have a mod that lets me assign up to 999 dockyards

[grand wolf]

👎🏻

[tulip thorn]

I have that mod aswell, but I always just limit myself to 10

[grand wolf]

5 is plenty

[tulip thorn]

More than that is op

[misty fossil]

same

[pseudo saddle]

I love building a big fleet and honestly my main mod I worked on has plenty of spawn in ships for people to larp with

[misty fossil]

i play with vanilla navy rework

its gonna have to go through an overhaul because of this update so no vnr for me

[tulip thorn]

Anymore than 10 is just so op

Make a superheavy in just a few weeks

[misty fossil]

i use that so i can have 100 dockyards on a single line if im too tired to micro

[pseudo saddle]

Yeah sadly the navy system is just

Bad

Its extremely expensive and you can just paradrop for a fraction of the cost

• Air will actively assist you on the ground to

[misty fossil]

question though

[pseudo saddle]

Its mainly for those who wanna LARP a big fleet and get navy dopamine

[gaunt thorn]

is dispersed still the best

[misty fossil]

if i paradrop as china how do i get troops across without having them be convoy raided to death

[tulip thorn]

I hate paradropping because its not as satisfying as winning a naval battle, and way to op and cheese

[misty fossil]

concetrated

[gaunt thorn]

for japan?

[misty fossil]

concentrated has always been the best

for everything

[pseudo saddle]

If your suspicious your gonna get bombed or rapidly retool your lines go dispersed

[gaunt thorn]

ok

[pseudo saddle]

Otherwise concentrated gives bigger output

[misty fossil]

you need to have discipline and not swap equipments at every moment

[icy crescent]

I went to the version before to play old Japan for the first time before current patch.
The decision to get 4 mils is satisfying.
Thank you for your attention.

[grand wolf]

For the Japanese civil war can I delete the 60 units you start with before the civil war and be fine?

[pseudo saddle]

To be honest if you dont have any escorts your just screwed, you would need a cheap destroyer or smth to stop subs and even then Japans fleet will just IMMEDIATELY evaporate that

[misty fossil]

then how do you cap japan

naval bombers?

[pseudo saddle]

I believe you dont HAVE to cap japan

If you push them off the continent they white peace?

[misty fossil]

well what if i choose to

[severe kraken]

Guys can i get help once pls

[tulip thorn]

I didnt get no peace out as prc or china

[misty fossil]

sure

[pseudo saddle]

Then get naval bombers and wait

[tulip thorn]

I had to paradrop japan in both games

[grand wolf]

Yeah

[tulip thorn]

I pushed the japanese all the way out

and nothing

[severe kraken]

My millennium dawn keeps crashing on loading screen

[tulip thorn]

even took indochina

[misty fossil]

heavy fighter with 2 torps?

[pseudo saddle]

Did they remove that decision with NCNS? Thats awful

[icy crescent]

White peace event on Japan is either missing or bugged.

[misty fossil]

bro update has just been release yesterday. dont expect MD to work lol

[tulip thorn]

It could be bugged

[severe kraken]

So what do i do

[sonic hatch]

Wait, play main.

[misty fossil]

i mean japan did live up to its DLC namesake

[tulip thorn]

Atleast the had paratroopers to kill japan

[misty fossil]

dont touch MD until devs say its updated?

[tulip thorn]

I would say the prc did aswell

[misty fossil]

its simple isnt it

[pseudo saddle]

Paradox actively worked with various mods to update for this DLC, Milennium dawn was one so he has to check with JUST MD to ensure thats the culprit

If so then MD team needs to fix the bug

[severe kraken]

Alrr thank you, also i am new to the game how do u play like win battles

I keep losing

[tulip thorn]

The chinese focus tree is good, but I never liked playing the republic

[severe kraken]

On civillian mode💔

[severe kraken]

Alrr

[sonic hatch]

What country,

Different countries play differently.

[tulip thorn]

Wait your new and went strait into md

[severe kraken]

I tried syria..💀

[tulip thorn]

💀

[misty fossil]

you're new and you went straight into a mod

[sonic hatch]

That poor soul.

[misty fossil]

you dont even understand how it works...

[severe kraken]

No i dont😭

[sonic hatch]

MD gave me a brain aneurysm the first time I played.

[misty fossil]

i know you downloaded hoi for MD but hold your horses man

[severe kraken]

I just research and develop factories

And spawn random division

And then lose

To some random tanks

[pseudo saddle]

Oh god Milennium dawn is extremely complex

[misty fossil]

real

[grand wolf]

Play the base game get outta md without the basic knowledge of the game trust me

[sonic hatch]

Play USA, it’s perfect to learn the game.

[pseudo saddle]

Get used to some vanilla HOI4 before jumping into that lol

[severe kraken]

I am playing the main and i always lose😭

[sonic hatch]

USA historical is the tutorial country.

[misty fossil]

fun fact, despite evidence to the countrary, you have to believe me when i say hoi4 is a reading game

i literally name myself read the tooltip

[tulip thorn]

Read the tooltip