hoi4-general

[magic tinsel]

when i woke up fully in the day and fully realised the price nearly all my hype has gone

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-interest-ah-no-meme-there-is-nothing-left-in-the-fridge-gif-6864320397330927859

[weak flower]

why its like 70% off?

[stark coyote]

I thought it would cost about 15 to 20

[grand wolf]

+70%*

[weak flower]

wdym?

[magic tinsel]

im talking about the new dlc

[grand wolf]

Theres a point to do early anschluss now

[weak flower]

new dlcs +70%?

[north spoke]

There always was

[weak flower]

Also should i get the general edition

[magic tinsel]

its $43 goddamn dollars where i live

[weak flower]

Or base game?

[north spoke]

Map painting

[stark coyote]

Let's say its a +50%

[magic tinsel]

dlc for $43

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-bob-meme-bob-stare-are-we-deadass-bob-meme-hd-gif-7915769545313185430

[grand wolf]

Theres a bigger one now +5% stability

[wraith moon]

look at the price of gotterdamarung

it’s like $5 less than this one

[stark coyote]

Btw, also CK3 newest DLC has a high price

[valid prairie]

does picking irrelgulars doctrine allow you to make irrelgulars as a normal nation?

[north spoke]

Gotterdammerung was peak

[valid prairie]

or with militia etc

[bold bloom]

It was 25 for me

[magic tinsel]

atleast that added half the world

[stark coyote]

Thanksfully

[bold bloom]

Rs

[split bane]

New DLC is $40 CAD

[north spoke]

Paradox deadass just asking for our SSN now

[bold bloom]

It’s so overrated I feel like

[stark coyote]

My goated will always be NSB

NSB MY BELOVED 🔥🔥🥵🥵

[north spoke]

Lowk waking the tiger dlc was peak

Trust

[magic tinsel]

they didnt even bother making unique focuses for like half the monarchy tree

[weak flower]

why cheaper in new zealand

[bold bloom]

I wanna play stellaris but uhh I don’t wanna pay a DLCs price for basic handed features

[weak flower]

very strange.

[bold bloom]

I own the game

None of the DLCs

[opal nymph]

NSB was great

[north spoke]

Paradox legit just releases updates as dlcs

[stark coyote]

At least Warlords gets an interesting focus?

[opal nymph]

Hoi4 peaked there

[bold bloom]

Rs

[stark coyote]

Facts

[north spoke]

Like you get to pay 50$ per upsate

So ass

[weak flower]

Should i buy hoi 4

[opal nymph]

They slightly updated the 1939 start date

[weak flower]

Or wait for hoi5?

[bold bloom]

Yes but pirate everything in it

[north spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1193239198300373133/1215347980572561548/attachment-7.gif

[bold bloom]

Hoi5 probably ain’t coming

[weak flower]

Ever?

[opal nymph]

I tried playing China in 1939 start date

[stark coyote]

It bothers me that I paid for dlcs before and now they are free and the new content is not even discounted for us

[bold bloom]

At this rate

[weak flower]

is hoi4? Dying?

[opal nymph]

Everywhere there is a tank, i slowly die a painful death

[queen lava]

How do you proclaim a new empire as a warlord??? F

[weak flower]

Everything being released as dlcs?

[opal nymph]

Why does Japan have medium tanks

[north spoke]

Paradox lore

[queen lava]

For the achievement

[tacit crane]

1. pay 30 usd

[bold bloom]

No the game is actually climbing

Believe it or not

[north spoke]

So are prices

[stark coyote]

Not really, it's getting expensive imo

[weak flower]

like in general? or just cuz of the f2p weekends?

[bold bloom]

Prices because of higher demand and more people willing to throw money at a wall

[north spoke]

I want hoi5 so Clausewitz can go down the shitter

Not for more features

[alpine hare]

I cant believe i've been 1 month and 20 days sober from hoi

[weak flower]

lol

[alpine hare]

bouta relapse hard

[opal nymph]

I spent $50 on seaplane tenders and got NCNS for free

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/relapse-time-vg-relapse-gif-12837729881522560164

[fringe rune]

place your bets gentlemen

[stark coyote]

Truly a good trade

[north spoke]

🤑

[bold bloom]

Fair fight

[alpine hare]

shit i almost got 3k hours in hoi4 holy

[bold bloom]

1.5k for me

[stark coyote]

I got almost 4k 💔💔💔

[north spoke]

I have around 700-900

[opal nymph]

I actually might get my money's worth. They allow destroyers to have floatplanes i believe

[north spoke]

I'm a yung blud

[bold bloom]

Liberal!

[stark coyote]

I should touch grass

[bold bloom]

(Joke)

[weak flower]

Do most people play single

or multi

[opal nymph]

Singleplayer

[weak flower]

Or like play single to learn game?

[north spoke]

HOI4 IS EXPENSIVE

[stark coyote]

Single

[bold bloom]

I play multi with friends

[north spoke]

(not joke)

[opal nymph]

Multiplayer is full of the worst people

Public MP at least

[stark coyote]

Even private sometimes

[opal nymph]

Probably

[bold bloom]

Public mp is ass

Priv mp with friends can be fun

[opal nymph]

This game attracts the extremists of the world

[north spoke]

Co op hoi4 is where the peak lies

[valid prairie]

anyone?

[opal nymph]

You should only play MP with friends

[bold bloom]

But my priv group of hoi4 players died out over the summer

[weak flower]

Hoi 4 banned in germany lol why could that be?

[heavy vigil]

current version chat

[bold bloom]

Yes

[fringe rune]

its not that expensive if you tottally maybe break the law and download things you shouldnt download

[stark coyote]

I been seeing stuff about art

[fringe rune]

dont do that

[stark coyote]

It's now good?

[opal nymph]

I remember seeing a group of YTers coop Germany on ragnorok mod with them each playing a specific role

[opal nymph]

It isnt

[north spoke]

I'm going to not pirate it because hoi4 is not expensive and I'm not gonna not give them money

[opal nymph]

Just the portraits of certain leaders

[weak flower]

Why i get warning saying this product cant be activated in germany?

[bold bloom]

DLCs is were I see pirating viable

[fringe rune]

yea for sure do NOT do that becuase thats illegal and unsafe

[bold bloom]

The game itself no

[north spoke]

The humble vpn

[weak flower]

true

Hearts of Iron IV is not officially banned in Germany, but it is censored to comply with the country's laws on Nazi imagery.

[stark coyote]

Yes

[weak flower]

makes snse

*sense

[opal nymph]

Probably historical Germany portraits

[bold bloom]

Kinda crazy their right side party has been saying German quotes from mustache man for years without consequences

[north spoke]

Im gonna censor words like "business" and "profit" in hoi4 HQ

[weak flower]

I haven't really played hoi 4 but is general zhukov like the best soviet union defence minister?

[north spoke]

Maybe that will work

[weak flower]

Sorry if i have got game mechanics wrong?

[north spoke]

By 1939 he's basically the only one

[weak flower]

Thats crazy.

[stark coyote]

He is a good general

[bold bloom]

Not a joke either

[weak flower]

dam when will france learn to justify 1st

jk

[bold bloom]

France has the initiative to start a war! Then will die because they couldn’t think realistically

[sage karma]

Should I buy the new dlc?

[north spoke]

No

[stark coyote]

Nah

[bold bloom]

Guys Germany won’t push Belgium again!

[north spoke]

Lowk mid

[queen lava]

Nah Japan is fire fym

[split bane]

Too expensive tbh

[queen lava]

Better then GDR lol

[stark coyote]

way too expensive for what u get

[sage karma]

What happened to doctrines

[weak flower]

poland can defend against germany alot better irl now.

[north spoke]

Everything else is poorly implemented

[split bane]

Free update

[north spoke]

Like coal

[sage karma]

Money isn't the issue

[bold bloom]

I mean France

[queen lava]

yeah coal does suck

[bold bloom]

Poland is a baller

[stark coyote]

Then it might worth

[queen lava]

Focus trees + doctrines + new navy stuff is good

[split bane]

I saw a video where somebody controlled all of Asia and most of Europe and was still -6000 or smth coal

[queen lava]

Rest is mid

[weak flower]

france just bad at hoi 4 they had similar equiptment to germans

[north spoke]

Coal is just like one state per major has 8247204720710461037391018 coal

[stark coyote]

What can u do with doctrines now?

[queen lava]

You can make your own pretty much

[stark coyote]

Havent played, my Austria kingdom run in CK3 its lit

[tall crystal]

How do you get faction influence as china?

[weak flower]

and infantry etc.

[stark coyote]

Line Art is 2w now?

[bold bloom]

France had the second largest and heavily armed military force on the earth at the time btw

[queen lava]

and they have mastery now so to level them up you have to fight instead of get exp

[queen lava]

Yeah

[weak flower]

edzactly lol

[queen lava]

You can have a milita doctrine for example

[bold bloom]

The French even had heavy hitting tanks for the time compared to Germanys

[stark coyote]

Good shit

[queen lava]

it’s the best part of dlc

[north spoke]

France just stopped caring about their military after ww1

[queen lava]

The line arty is now so good

[north spoke]

Allowing the Germans to steamroll with modern tech

[queen lava]

But coal sucks and the warlords have terrible trees

[north spoke]

This

[bold bloom]

I wouldn’t say that their government was just a wittle bit disjointed

[stark coyote]

Now I want to play Soviet heavy focused art

[north spoke]

France stopped modernizing their equipment

They still sent messages by motorcycle

[bold bloom]

Guys we should quit hoi4 and play ages of conflict! 🗣️

[bold bloom]

Yes and no

[stark coyote]

Helldivers 2 🫦

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[bold bloom]

Their pride is why they refused to change their messaging doctrine

However

[north spoke]

Oh ic

[bold bloom]

Their military was still a force to be reckoned with

They just didn’t at all use it right

[north spoke]

And they got reckoned with

[bold bloom]

Pretty much

[stark coyote]

France was in a good position at the start of the war tbh

They messed up horribly tho

[bold bloom]

The Germans left their border basically unguarded during the invasion of Poland

[north spoke]

France has every opportunity to push into Germany and just didnt

[bold bloom]

And France did nothing

[stark coyote]

They made too many bad decisions

[tribal peak]

they should have used meth

[stark coyote]

Lmao

[stark coyote]

Fent 🔥

[neat kayak]

so i got an acc from a friend

with the dlc

[north spoke]

Because I have 800 hours in hoi4 compared to charles de Gaulle's zero

[neat kayak]

what should i try first?

[stark coyote]

Sinchuan 🥵

[neat kayak]

it's for a test

i will buy soon on my main acc

[north spoke]

Bulgaria

[neat kayak]

from the new dlc

[grand wolf]

A free 600 tires

[north spoke]

Bulgaria

[neat kayak]

paradox just flipped the middle finger to me

i had 72% on achvs

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/blitzkrieg-dee-shoot-gif-5566983849145033826

[neat kayak]

now i have 67%

thanks pdx

[dusky burrow]

2.2-width

but yes

[north spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329777355941478481/1359090589601235015/twitter_1909253241042264559.gif

[dusky burrow]

Shockingly still not that useful

[stark coyote]

Goated

[neat kayak]

me too

[stark coyote]

F

[neat kayak]

but that's my exact %

[grizzled yarrow]

ITALIAAAAAAAAAAAA (prob a repost i forgot)

[neat kayak]

i will try the phillippines

to see if they truly are trash or not

btw is the dlc bugged or something?

[dusky burrow]

It works against normal inf, but I would always say to use mountaineers anyways

[north spoke]

Did you just absorb the allies

[ornate marlin]

why wont it launch?

[copper cobalt]

Did they fix the thing where if you lose non core territory you lose balance of power support

[ornate marlin]

i have dominance

[dusky burrow]

That is, it is now a significant improvement over just normal infantry

[grizzled yarrow]

Its a funny cheesing strat

[north spoke]

No, just trash

[neat kayak]

i will try it

to see

first stop phillippines

[copper cobalt]

o.O

[neat kayak]

ahistorical

communist

[grizzled yarrow]

If u dont put any fighters as long as the allies also dont put any figthers u can paratroop into france

[stark coyote]

What about a new unit type? Do we got one or nah

?

[grizzled yarrow]

And from then u steal the navy get naval superiority and eat the uk

[north spoke]

Lowk paratrooping into France isn't fun. Smashing through Belgium is fun

[bold bloom]

France spams fighters and bombers right as the first sign of war starts up

[north spoke]

Anyways I'm going to bed gn

[dusky burrow]

Mountaineers are still better I think

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah but when ur playing italy how u gon smash belgium

[north spoke]

By going through france

[stark coyote]

What are the new ones tho?

[north spoke]

And then turning around

[stark coyote]

Haven't played yet

[grizzled yarrow]

Mountaineers got buffed?

[grizzled yarrow]

Army made of papar and prayers

[dusky burrow]

Nope, they're like forest rangers but they get a 0.2 combat reduction

Mountaineers are always that good

[grizzled yarrow]

I dont rlly see the point of getting them for a .2 combat reduction

[dusky burrow]

In a 36-width unit you can fit two more of them, and that's actually pretty powerful

It's 12.5% more combat power

[neat kayak]

Time to see if paradox burnt it or not

will it be good as ggr

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk if il still use em sob

[neat kayak]

or not

[dire trellis]

Collab gov or 100 compliance?

[neat kayak]

Collab gov

[grizzled yarrow]

Anyway cant wait to checkout the navy rework

Did they cook or burn

[neat kayak]

no matter how much fun i will have

if i will

[silk fern]

Burn because now I don’t understand navy anymore

[neat kayak]

Austria will still be my fav nation

[grizzled yarrow]

Pls dont tell me its even more complicated

[silk fern]

When has paradox ever made a rework to make something easier

[neat kayak]

Oh man it's time for paratroopers era

[dire trellis]

Rip light crusier spam💔

[dapper pine]

Hoi4 players when a new update ruin there save files:

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah ur right

[copper cobalt]

O.o

[dire trellis]

Whats the navy meta now btw?

[copper cobalt]

Idk but nav bombers

The high ground and such

[dire trellis]

F IT 2 GAZILLION LIGHT CRUISERS

[grand wolf]

Unsinkable aircraft carriers

[ember dagger]

#notmyNSB

[neat kayak]

From the getgo

[tall crystal]

Bruh how did I get these generals

[neat kayak]

the phillipines are full of 70 days

[tall crystal]

It’s like 1937 and I haven’t even gone to war

[lavish cliff]

it feels much harder to win the war as china now

[ember dagger]

Terrible addition to a game? Must be a gaijin update

[bold bloom]

I mean makes sense

I’m glad

[dire trellis]

Its eaaier to win as japan now tho

[bold bloom]

I mean it never really was hard

[dire trellis]

Ion get how to get green sea superiority now

[bold bloom]

It just was boring

[bold bloom]

I never have

[still loom]

Finally, oh god

[dire trellis]

I literally have 150 ships and have red sea vs ONE CHINESE SHIP

[still loom]

It's map colouring time

[copper cobalt]

Wait turkist socialist

[quartz canyon]

Never did I ever think I would be drowning in political power as Nationalist China.

[heavy vigil]

strike force doesnt give any

you have to patrol

[copper cobalt]

The only halal path as the Turks are the ottomans

[quartz canyon]

Wait, I think I accidentally set the game to recruit difficulty.

Yep.

That’s why.

[grand wolf]

I just pushed through the maginot line with basic infantry

[pastel solstice]

OMG italy a major power has only 8 coal

[lunar horizon]

Did anyone play as manchuria yet?

[pastel solstice]

trying now. note they have more coal then ITALY

[mellow parrot]

We have reached a new stage of Manchuria here

[quartz canyon]

No but I looked at the tree. They did more than update the existing focuses. They added a communist path.

[novel otter]

Successful

[quartz canyon]

There may have been more than one new path, but I only took a brief glance a few hours ago so I’m not quite sure.

[grizzled yarrow]

Crazy work

Wait

Are u allied to japan sob

[merry urchin]

what features are exclusive to NCNS?

[novel otter]

nope i puppeted them

[grizzled yarrow]

WHAT

[merry urchin]

or are the new doctrines, japan focus trees, and navy rework features part of the base game?

[novel otter]

xD

[grizzled yarrow]

How did u even get into main land japan

[novel otter]

air superiority, i just paradrop into them

its super easy

[grizzled yarrow]

Do thye just have no fighters?

[novel otter]

They do, but I catch them off guard

[grizzled yarrow]

Oooo

[novel otter]

ya

[grizzled yarrow]

Crazy dedication

Why not take tibet tho

[novel otter]

i did shortly after

very satisfying gameplay

[merry urchin]

im so confused, why does my hoi4 have the new doctrines and focuses when i didnt buy ncns?

[grizzled yarrow]

Lowk uniting china must be satisfying

[broken osprey]

max everything on okinawa and it's still not working, is it a glitch or am i just missing something?

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk

[hasty badge]

You have the naval base on correct province?

[neat kayak]

The mechanics for commie Phillippines are good

ngl

[hasty badge]

And the anti air?

[heavy vigil]

china starts so badly

not for a player tbf

but for ai

100K combined gun defacit

[still loom]

I hate coal

😭

[hasty badge]

Do you really really need so much civs right now or can you put some to import coal?

(I was hoping coal would also be fuel to old dreadnoughts but....)

[heavy vigil]

can be modded i think

pre dreadnought hulls should use it imo

[hasty badge]

Or just make a module. Coal fired boiler or oil fired boiler

(Or just coal engine, oil engine)

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[hasty badge]

Because many dreadnoughts still had coal propulsion

[hasty badge]

Hi, the patrol boat doctrine is in the screening ships sub doctrine

[cedar lance]

nice

can you show a pic pls?

@hasty badge

oh alr

[hasty badge]

My Internet is laggy idk if it sent but im not Home in in a train

[cedar lance]

alr

[neat kayak]

The Phillies need a major touchup

on the industry branch

[drifting kiln]

bro its just the same guy making 4 differnet faces 😭

[lunar horizon]

Oh geez

It should be easier to play qing now since we can peace out japan

[devout trench]

Average Chinese experience

[lunar horizon]

Mixing the babies in chinese nursery

Wish there was a path to like, a secret nation as a chinese warlord where you can restore the ming dynasty

[heavy vigil]

you can do communist manchukuo tho

[lunar horizon]

Democratic too?

[heavy vigil]

yes

[broken osprey]

i didnt know

ooops

[balmy flame]

China has some trouble reinforcing the south for some reason(but a billion units in the north), is it because of the game or because I overrun them too fast(and encircled some units)

[neat kayak]

how do i get a navy as the phillipines?

[broken osprey]

built it all and still not working

[broken osprey]

for some reason the short term goal for fortifying okinawa isnt working

[river marsh]

division of theseus

[craggy trail]

I think cavalry is still viable

I'm not too sure I got the right thing sub-doctrines for the last two, this was a good combo

[grizzled yarrow]

Tight budget

[grizzled yarrow]

Cavalry works best for poland i think

[grizzled yarrow]

SUPERIOR FIREPOWER?

[heavy vigil]

its actually good now

gbp too

[grizzled yarrow]

Gbp got buffed?

[heavy vigil]

but gbp was already good

[grizzled yarrow]

Dang

Btw i figured out how to prevent france from joining allies

[craggy trail]

Japan has been making puppets everywhere lately...

[grizzled yarrow]

I just declare on its puppet

[craggy trail]

I actually had a theorist I can use for Superior Firepower Mastery, which is why I went that route

[grizzled yarrow]

China being blue brings a smile to my face

[craggy trail]

Don't get me started with Navy. I haven't learned the new stuff just yet

[agile ridge]

does the map error still persist

i didnt play at all yesterday just cuz of it

[grizzled yarrow]

Is it much harder or harder

[craggy trail]

It would have been easy to see if capital ships were on top and every other convoy and stuff on the bottom

Like invert everything

Oh they got the wartime flag on point with the Philippines. Quite a nice detail

[grizzled yarrow]

Wth is this

[grizzled yarrow]

What a loss

Why ru playing mexico tho

[chilly holly]

What cheat code i need to add mastery points in new doctrine system

[coral gorge]

mastery

[blazing nova]

Does the Cold War mod not work with the new update?? 😭

[tulip thorn]

Like no mods are working

Its up to mod devs to update their mods to work

[grizzled yarrow]

Twin

I fricking did it

[tulip thorn]

epic

[heavy vigil]

my playset works

[grizzled yarrow]

What does greater italy formable give

[edgy wedge]

Where can I find a more detailed patch note? As in exactly what models have been reworked

[grand wolf]

Should I play as democratic japan and have china go fascist?

[grizzled yarrow]

True hoi4 player

[grand wolf]

Damnnnnnnnn

[proper saddle]

Hey pepol

i have question

why are some dlc gonna go unlisted

[craggy trail]

Just showcasing the new naval headquarters mechanic that's part of the DLC

[mellow parrot]

Zhang Xueliang lookin fresh in his 1928 portrait

Gotta admit, I do kinda prefer his NRA portrait images

BUT

I can't be picky

[mellow parrot]

This is still fire.

[grand wolf]

Im gonna put hirohito in charge

[distant mountain]

Has anyone else actually went into some of the other nations and checked out the naval range with the new supply system?

How is America supposed to intervene in South America for example if their boats cant even reach?

Same thing with the british, most starting fleets can operate off the coast of india because the naval supply station is in Singapore and they dont get to use the capital radius supply for operation from India

Brazil cant operate its navy on its northern coast, this doesnt make any sense lol

[tulip thorn]

Im sad because mine doesnt

[uncut carbon]

Why is he like this

He has the most pronounced thingy above his lip

[still loom]

time to sleep

[quasi shoal]

what is contribution in terms of factions?

the mongolians (not the communist ones) are puppeted by me, but because of "contribution" they have almost as much influence as me

[grand wolf]

Pretty sure its contribution to the faction missions or who has the most affect on other members

[quasi shoal]

oh it's cuz they have "supportive scientists"

which is dumb cuz I don't get any when they are my research facilities that no one else will even build

[warm nimbus]

did they remove garrison planning

[quasi shoal]

?

[wet nimbus]

is the second expansion pass worth it

[quasi shoal]

the new dlc is good, but the rest of the content is either cosmetics or not out yet

the other dlc is a czechoslovakia only dlc, so it's prolly not worth it

[wet nimbus]

do you have any hopes for thunder at our gates

[quasi shoal]

oh wait I forgot about that

indonesia focus tree seems interesting

and so does military HQs

[wet nimbus]

I tried the new DLC and felt a little underwhelmed so I submitted my refund request. Like the new Doctrine system looked like something modders can easily do

[grand wolf]

Is that the next dlc

[quasi shoal]

maybe

[wet nimbus]

first quarter 2026

[quasi shoal]

that and peace for our time are 2nd quarter 2026

[grand wolf]

The doctrine system is free

[grand wolf]

Oh hell yeah

[quasi shoal]

japan is hella fun tho

[wet nimbus]

So japan is free, doctrine is free, why the hell should I spend my money

[grand wolf]

I hate historical japan i died twice fighting china

[quasi shoal]

and improved navy logistics and factions is good

[quasi shoal]

was japan free?

[wet nimbus]

idk, he said it himself

I bought the DLC so idk

[grand wolf]

I didn't say japan was free

[wet nimbus]

pretty sure japan is free except for alt his

[grand wolf]

Its probably like how Germany is, free historical path but the other 2 are locked behind the dlc

[distant mountain]

There is no possibility of naval combat in the pacific if your playing against the US, they dont have range and I dont think theyre smart enough to build naval supply for range...

this is their highest range fleet in 39'

and its a fleet of 3 battleships lol

[grand wolf]

Its like that in 1943 as well

[distant mountain]

you spectating a game rn?

[grand wolf]

Nah i played as the Philippines a few hours ago

[distant mountain]

Yeah - you cant lose right?

they cant naval invade

because no dominance

[quasi shoal]

do you even have them on your close islands

[grand wolf]

Maybe sheep's mod will fix the ai😂

[distant mountain]

What do you mean? Supply comes from the naval supply hubs now, closest is hawaii

naval bases dont increase range

[quasi shoal]

ai can still build them

[distant mountain]

can they? they dont build supply hubs

im currently spectating a game, hopefully they will

[grand wolf]

They need a lvl 8 naval base before they can

[distant mountain]

will they upgrade naval bases before theyre full up on civies i guess is the question

the USA currently cannot operate off the east coast

because there is no hub in norfolk

somehow

[grand wolf]

I can only build 1 naval supply hub as japan

I cant make any on my islands cause I cant build a lvl 8 naval base on them

[distant mountain]

HOLDUP THEYRE BUILDING A NAVAL BASE IN GUAM

[quasi shoal]

also I literally see those ships reaching to the japanese islands, no?

even if part of the region is red it can still take those islands

[distant mountain]

It can take those islands... It doesnt increase the range though so they cant continue after taking the ones in range...

range only increases from the hubs im pretty sure

and there are no hubs on those islands

[quasi shoal]

you'd have to build a hub to take their islands too tho

[distant mountain]

Yeah - im smart enough to realize id need a hub, i dont know if the AI is

I dont think they will be

they are slowly building naval bases in guam tho

so maybe im wrong'

[quasi shoal]

can't they just take your hubs tho?

[quasi shoal]

mine doesn't even have a hub there btw

so they should be able to build

[grand wolf]

Only with a level 8 naval base

[quasi shoal]

unless it's invis

[quasi shoal]

well yeah, but they can build those too

[distant mountain]

neither player can reach each others hubs.

[wet nimbus]

I feel like a crack addict for buying this. Except crack is cheaper.

[grand wolf]

I can only make up to 6 or 3 naval bases

[quasi shoal]

some islands can't have 8 naval bases

[distant mountain]

update they built a level 4 naval base in guam, they have stopped

[quasi shoal]

guam can

[quasi shoal]

for now...

[distant mountain]

brother its 1941

[grand wolf]

Still can't build a naval supply hub in any islands

[distant mountain]

You would need a level 8 naval base

only some islands can support it

[grand wolf]

Which ones?

[quasi shoal]

guam

[quasi shoal]

they've got til 1945

[quasi shoal]

taiwan

[grand wolf]

Any other Japanese owned islands?

[quasi shoal]

every coastal state connected to a non coastal state, pretty much

[quasi shoal]

I mean, all of japan

one of the caroline islands can

the one with the harbor symbol and the diamond

[grand wolf]

Not mainland Japan but the small islands

[quasi shoal]

same with one of the marshall islands

[quasi shoal]

the islands with the diamonds can

[grand wolf]

Its a shame iwo jima cant have a level 8 naval base

[quasi shoal]

why

mainland japan is close enough to the other islands

[slim nexus]

Kumul khanate has a decision to make greater mongolia

Yay

[distant mountain]

so the ai is able to split off fleets of 3-4 cruisers that have high range to try to get naval dominance, this should not work at all when japan is actually trying to oppose them.

[somber palm]

Played my first game as China yesterday, in my opinion, I really like playing as the United Front. Protracted warfare is my favourite way to fight in China.

Still getting my head round the faction system and influence but I had a fun game that lasted a few hours without me realising 😂

Just wanted to share my own thoughts. I am enjoying it

[hasty badge]

Why my Malta can't?

[distant mountain]

malta rockey

[hasty badge]

But it has the diamond thingy

[grand wolf]

Its got the one for coastal forts

[quasi shoal]

it needs the diamond for harbors

the diamond for harbors means +2 harbor slots

so it goes from default 6 to 8

[rough pond]

anyone discover the secret paths in the dlc yet?

[quasi shoal]

I saw one on yt but I didn't watch it to avoid spoilers

[hasty badge]

But it has

Diamond harbors

I think

Or maybe it's the bunker thing

Can someone check it rn?

[grand wolf]

Its the costal fort one

[quasi shoal]

it's coastal bunkers

which is annoying cuz now invading malta as the axis is even more difficult 😮‍💨

[finite plume]

Did the new DLC make it so only regions hovered over show their names or is my mod just that quirky that it does that

[misty fossil]

curious but now that the update is out, do naval cas/bombers participating in naval battles work the same way as planes doing naval strike missions, as in plane modules now affect their stats?

[hasty badge]

Nooooo :(( from where am I supposed to do my Mediterranean naval campaign?

Gibraltar I guess is fine

[limpid field]

did they add a new modifier

[quasi shoal]

nvr mind

[grand wolf]

Still from Malta it'll have supply

[finite plume]

🥀

[quasi shoal]

turns out it does do that now?

[hasty badge]

Sea regions is dlc

[quasi shoal]

idk why they would do that

[hasty badge]

Normal regions maybe too

[quasi shoal]

gibraltar

cyprus

[hasty badge]

Not anymore it won't, after the dlc

[quasi shoal]

it does what they're referring to on both regions

[quasi shoal]

gibraltar and cyprus reach everywhere malta would reach

and they're easier to defend tbh

[grand wolf]

It will you just need it to be in range of a naval supply hub

[hasty badge]

Which Malta can't build

[tepid nova]

I dont get
The game says I own graveyard of empires, but I never bought it?

[grand wolf]

I said it needs to be in range of one not that it needs one

[distant mountain]

ohhh ok naval bases DO provide naval range

you need to set their homebase

[quasi shoal]

🤦‍♂️

[distant mountain]

Why didnt you say that lmfao

[finite plume]

This new DLC made my mod look gloomy idk why 🙏

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[quasi shoal]

I didnt know it was a thing

[cedar lance]

just Bough NCNS

[misty fossil]

because its over

[distant mountain]

Ah - yeah its just the old system but clunkier

idk why they made that change

[hasty badge]

What bases can I set as home bases?

[quasi shoal]

all of them I believe

[distant mountain]

click this button

[quasi shoal]

to better show that naval supply hubs extend ranges ig

[distant mountain]

But it gives the impression that you cant operate in certain areas, its the same ui design as "not reachable"

very confusing

and ive played a good amt of navy

i suck, but thats besides the point

[finite plume]

Spot the issue with this

[distant mountain]

me when im paraguay

[hasty badge]

you can do that now?

[cedar lance]

hey

[finite plume]

Unfortunately not 😞

[cedar lance]

i just bought NCNS

[finite plume]

I was just testing pride of the fleets

[grand wolf]

I won the border war with the soviets as soon as I unpaused

[pseudo rose]

I've only been playing communist China and the best part of this DLC is launching land raids, because it's just trucks driving across the map bombing supply hubs 10/10

[finite plume]

Though god forbid this is your 'pride of the fleet'

[quasi shoal]

it's really easy to

[edgy cosmos]

as communist Norway I found my self in a faction with sinkiang on historical, I did the anti NKP path

[quasi shoal]

just grab 6 regular level infantry, then put them on the border and do the test thing

[grand wolf]

Exactly what i did

[quasi shoal]

sinkiang be doing the weirdest shit tbh

[hasty badge]

My ORP błyskawica wont be the pride of the Polish navy?

:(((

Pride of the fleet.... A fleet support ship

Oh yeah what do they actually do?

[remote hawk]

Why new warlords are only for dlc 😭

[hasty badge]

Repair ships I know but support ships?

[misty fossil]

line arty increases hp now????

[quasi shoal]

support ships buff logistics

[misty fossil]

thats wild

LINE ARTY FIX!!!!!

[quasi shoal]

so like reduced fuel and shi

[leaden mulch]

its still bad

[quasi shoal]

this update was line art buff spam

[misty fossil]

i know

[hasty badge]

How much should I have

[quasi shoal]

idk

[misty fossil]

japanese divs are so trash

[quasi shoal]

i haven't declared on the US yet

[hasty badge]

I just spammed them in my fleet

[misty fossil]

im crying

[quasi shoal]

that's prolly fine

i've been spamming repair ships and stuff cuz i have tons of fuel

[hasty badge]

Like 20 support ships and 20 repair ships for little task force of 40 ships

Because they cheap as hell

Also I'm researching escort carriers

[pseudo rose]

Can't wait to try Navy stuff, commie China will rule the waves

Eventually

[grand wolf]

How many super heavy battleships is to many

[pastel solstice]

not goign to happen the nval is broke

[pseudo rose]

You can never have too many

[misty fossil]

if i want to go historical i do not need to take any of these decisions?

[grand wolf]

Alright guess we're making a million

[grand wolf]

It don't matter

You can or can't

[quasi shoal]

just look up when they died or sumn

[misty fossil]

im literally looking at the wiki rn

[quasi shoal]

the buffs they give aren't that useful tho tbh

[misty fossil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Way_Faction

[quasi shoal]

unless you're civ spamming

[quasi shoal]

both die irl

just looked it up

they both get assassinated

[misty fossil]

At the climax of the Aizawa trial, to reduce tensions on the Tokyo area, the First Infantry Division was ordered from Tokyo to Manchuria. Instead, this caused the situation to escalate further, as the Kōdōha decided that the time was right for direct action, and backed the First Infantry Division in an attempted coup d'état on 26 February 1936 known as the February 26 Incident. The failure of the coup three days later resulted in the almost complete purge of Kōdōha members from top army positions and the resignation of their leader Sadao Araki.

[quasi shoal]

you're just losing out on artillery buffs and civ spam in exchange for losing mil construct speed

[misty fossil]

thats useless

[quasi shoal]

I looked up the people's names and it said they both got assassinated on the 26th

[misty fossil]

i mean the arty buff

thank you

[knotty reef]

🤔

thinks about hoi4

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-joseph-stalin-who-is-this-mf-get-out-get-outta-here-bruh-gif-17648615905493260683

[knotty reef]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-incel-stone-cold-incel-freeze-frozen-gif-6179833355848965880

[dreamy moat]

Guys any tips on making Palestine strong early game?

Also which factories should i mostly go for

Like very early game wise

[leaden mulch]

bro really said "strong" early game

[grand wolf]

Mass bombing of gaza

[dreamy moat]

?

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[dreamy moat]

Wouldn’t that weaken it

[leaden mulch]

its a joke

[tulip thorn]

In my opinion its not the worst now

[grand wolf]

No that unlocks super secret paths

[dreamy moat]

Oh

[grand wolf]

Which makes it strong trust me

[leaden mulch]

5 trillion to israel

[grand wolf]

Nah 5 trillion to Japan, italy, and germany

Make them great again

[leaden mulch]

pluh

[dreamy moat]

Now you’ve given me an idea from a YouTuber i saw a while back

Take everyone’s money

[quasi shoal]

download rt56 and do israel path

[dreamy moat]

In multiplayer

[grand wolf]

Id rather be inside a nuclear reactor when it explodes and survive then die only 24 hours later from radiation exposure

[quasi shoal]

😭

[hasty badge]

I could even die a week later suffering

[quasi shoal]

tbf I think israel path is just break free then get ganked by every middle eastern country

so historically accurate, just earlier than usual

[dreamy moat]

But what if I don’t go that path

[leaden mulch]

🔥

[dreamy moat]

Is it micro hell?

[quasi shoal]

probably

[hasty badge]

That's the middle east battle royale

[dreamy moat]

Great

[grand wolf]

Should be an in-game option to atomize the middle east and make it an ocean

[quasi shoal]

but it's the middle east so there's only so many provinces

[quasi shoal]

france alternate history path

nuke your entire country so the germans dont get it

[tulip thorn]

1 hour away from 2k hours

[hasty badge]

It's weird how I use middle east, when in my language middle east is close east

[grand wolf]

Seems accurate, or maybe they'd just capitulate like they always do

[hasty badge]

And the true middle east is india

[grand wolf]

That area would be better as an ocean tho

Its nothing but desert and oil

[hasty badge]

Just delete the entire works and become fish

World

[grand wolf]

New dlc "Fish fight back"

[late cypress]

How am I supposed to do operation torch with the new navy there’s not even enough ship range for English Channel to western med

[grand wolf]

Ffb

[quasi shoal]

what's wrong with oil

[quasi shoal]

there is

[hasty badge]

Use Gibraltar has home base

[grand wolf]

The usa thats what's wrong with oil

[quasi shoal]

you have to make home bases

[late cypress]

Cuts off range around western approaches/English Channel

[quasi shoal]

nuke the us 🤔

[quasi shoal]

what's operation torch

I forgot

[hasty badge]

Split the fleet in 2

[grand wolf]

But then china would be the dominant power and we cant have that

[late cypress]

Naval invade Vichy North Africa

[quasi shoal]

use gibraltar

[hasty badge]

One from Plymouth one from Gibraltar

[quasi shoal]

and malta

[late cypress]

Ok

[hasty badge]

Or hear me out

[late cypress]

Before update you could just project as one fleet and covered everything

[quasi shoal]

just use malta

and gibraltar

[hasty badge]

Go from Britain and build a naval supply base in Gibraltar, it will give you more range

[late cypress]

Okay

[hasty badge]

But he doesn't want his divisions to get low supplies when they all cumulate on the little rock of Gibraltar

So he sails from British isles

[lapis snow]

wow you mean that now naval distance matters even slightly and therefore you can't just throw african front in SP when invading from the med? Incredible

[quasi shoal]

malta

[hasty badge]

Same problems

Just use home base in Britain

And supply base in Gibraltar

Problem solved

You have range and everything

[misty fossil]

i cant send volunteers as japan?

is this new

[oak kite]

yeah boi!

[tulip thorn]

Anyone know if mobile warfare is useable at all

[ebon remnant]

i was microing nonstop i cant even give a fair assesment on how good the new focus tree is LOL

[misty fossil]

do we know how naval combat mechanics look like now?

[ebon remnant]

I completely ignored the rivalry stuff and just buffed my infantry and spammed dockyards

[misty fossil]

can you send volunteers as japan

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[misty fossil]

oh thats weird

[tulip thorn]

I sent 11 amazing special forces units to italy and helped them take all of africa

[misty fossil]

probs some mods that made me unable to send them

[heavy vigil]

org

[fading elk]

So how limiting is coal now anyway

I haven’t played since NCNS came out yesterday

[ebon remnant]

does the new focus force you to war USA btw?

[fading elk]

But coal does seem pretty big

[tulip thorn]

?

[ebon remnant]

if i declare on britain the US wont get involved correct?

[tulip thorn]

Thats a good question

[amber finch]

can i go to war if i play Sweden? or do i have to be neutral? 😄

[timid mica]

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DESTROY MY NAVY RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

[tulip thorn]

I've seen lots of people complain about it all day

[heavy vigil]

it gives org

[tulip thorn]

Is that it

[fading elk]

When I first learned of coal I was a bit skeptical

Since while yes realistic

[tulip thorn]

So it does exactly what it did before

[heavy vigil]

it lets you design motorized mechanized and tanks for free

after spending 35 xp

[tulip thorn]

So what it did before

[fading elk]

U could work ur way into a situation where u are just phycially unable to get more coal and ur only way out is more civs

[tulip thorn]

[heavy vigil]

no it gave significantly more speed than other doctrines before

its not as bad as massmob tho

which gives like

less out of supply penalty

[tulip thorn]

Oh yeah what did the doctrine rework do to mass mob

[heavy vigil]

i think the final masteries also change a bit?

but its not significant

[misty fossil]

so what is this theatre thing

and where is it

[tulip thorn]

Military operation tab of the faction menu

[heavy vigil]

well imagine if mass mob sucked

[tulip thorn]

I have no idea what it does

[tulip thorn]

Thats sad

But hey atleast sfp isnt the 2nd worse thing in the game anymore

[heavy vigil]

now its 1 of the 2 best ones

gbp mains stay winning tho (me)

[tulip thorn]

Yeah i've only used gbp so far

Its way to good

[heavy vigil]

im glad they addressed germany being OP by making the balkans worse because they have no coal

its actually sad

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

I really hope an update fixes the coal situation

[heavy vigil]

the balkans combined (italy, romania, hungary, bulgaria, not counting allied like yugo) have like

3 more coal than spain

[tulip thorn]

that just sucks

[heavy vigil]

and spain has half the coal of the czechs

and the czechs have like a third? a fifth? of german coal

just to put it into perspective

[lapis snow]

it's funny looking at it as someone who did a lot of research on 30s + 40s coal for a mod

the attempt to balance just misfired so bad

[heavy vigil]

wdym the axis got nerfed

finland has 0 coal it makes me sad

what did finland do :(

[lapis snow]

finland was already getting smoked in ai vs ai

so idk

[heavy vigil]

or player vs player

or anything involving having its own natural resources

[heavy vigil]

is it more balanced irl?

irl resource balance was kinda wacky

thats all i know

[tropic lance]

bro the japanese went democratic and disrupted a canon event

this is unacceptable

[clear dagger]

lmao

[tulip thorn]

indeed

Now its made several minor countries (and italy) almost 100% unplayable

[heavy vigil]

italy truly needed nerfing

tutorial nation btw

[tulip thorn]

The italian ai was way to op

[lapis snow]

forever upset about this

[heavy vigil]

i mean

italy was really good in the initial BBA patch

[lapis snow]

being the tutorial nation kinda made sense pre-bba but now it's laughable

[uncut carbon]

Bad dlc 👎

[clear dagger]

player italy needed nerfed, but ai italy needs a buff

[tulip thorn]

very true

[crystal marsh]

are there any known ncns bugs yet

[clear dagger]

they are more incompetent than irl italy

[waxen jacinth]

Refund

Leave a negative comment

Kinda

[lapis snow]

mainly for non dlc users, but yes, plenty

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-content-hello-neighbor-unsubscribe-dislike-gif-16052859260058426388

[heavy vigil]

worse tutorial nations: ethiopia, iceland, switzerland, maybe spain? paraguay (focus tree nations only btw)

uuuhh

manchukuo?

[clear dagger]

dont forget luxembourg

[heavy vigil]

no focus tree

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/well-see-about-that-jack-donaghy-30rock-well-see-lets-see-gif-19746731

[heavy vigil]

idk anyone else thats worse than italy

[lapis snow]

needs to be a no dlc focus tree nation

[heavy vigil]

oh wow youre making it hard

manchukuo still

[lapis snow]

is pretty poor, yeah

[heavy vigil]

at least japan has like kind of a thing to do as a major

they dont suffer like italy

so they dont count

sinkiang?

they have a focus tree now

[tulip thorn]

Why is he looking at me like that

[crystal marsh]

what are the main ones

[clear dagger]

Czechoslovakia best focus tree fr

[uncut carbon]

I never bought

[crystal marsh]

the only bugs ive witnessed so far is the releasing occupied nations decisions as japan not doing shit if one of the states is occupied by an ally and not you

[tulip thorn]

Same here

Didnt get the burma puppet

[heavy vigil]

you should release your island nations day 1 btw

more mils

[tropic lance]

this game is getting weirder by the second

[crystal marsh]

like either require all states to be occupied or release the nation from ally territory too

[crystal marsh]

im referring to the decisions allowing to turn occupied territories into allies

like the 2nd philippine republic, all indochinese vassals, burma, ceylon, india

but hey thanks for the tip

[heavy vigil]

people do those?

[crystal marsh]

i did

for the fun of it

[tulip thorn]

Yeah I did it because its a new thing

[heavy vigil]

im evil i like having mor eco so i dont

[tulip thorn]

And I want to see new thing

[crystal marsh]

and honestly i didnt have many guns either

[ocean finch]

Does the doctrine upgrade doubling SoF capacity still exist?

[tulip thorn]

Im never going to do it again, since im losing build slots and eco

[heavy vigil]

you gotta click korea

they have a bunch of resistance eating your guns

[crystal marsh]

like the decisions that remove the state modifiers

i did those early on

[heavy vigil]

and probably remove some of the production lines

cuz they suck

[crystal marsh]

my gun deficit mainly came from china

[heavy vigil]

like you dont need trains day 1

and you get 2 mils from rushing to fighter focus

well, not completely rushing

you need to get china timer going

[slow sapphire]

looking at the japanese focus tree right now, is there any way to avoid pearl habour and going with war against the usa and like focusing in the soviets? Does the dlc add ny content to this?

[lapis snow]

faction stuff seems kinda busted tbh. There was some really funny screenshots posted to the bittersteel server just after it dropped

contribution and leadership seems broken

[slim nexus]

Guys no way, we have attention seeking Hoi4 girls before GTAVI 😭

Where

She just made her entire personality on the gane while this is her steam profile

[slim nexus]

Border ratinv: 8/10

[slim nexus]

I do not think I can send her ig page here

[heavy vigil]

japan is my most played major so when i saw it there was like 0 uh reason in my head to spend focus time even getting there

theres so much you need to get

your research slots are messed up

[slim nexus]

If I send an IG page with the face an nick censored can I send it ?

[tepid nova]

Did they rework the cost of ships? Japan, USA and the UK all have so many carriers now, compared to before where they would have like 6 each, they are wella above 10

[limpid field]

plan z focus got changed

[slim nexus]

Fr?

[limpid field]

it now gives you buffs instead of a mission

[crystal marsh]

ill forgive paradox if they fix the bugs in the next couple days

[heavy vigil]

dont harass people and dont be weird is all

[slim nexus]

Is not harassing?

[heavy vigil]

then its good

[slim nexus]

Like I do not think at all that women cannot appreciate history

But if you make 9 consecutive reels of how deep in the game you are and have only 242 hours seems kinda fake to me

[slim nexus]

Since a lot of them actually do

[slim nexus]

The same thing would have been if she was a man obv

Also what is #savehoi4 ☠️

[lunar horizon]

Savehoi4 is a tag to critivize femboy hoi4 content creators in tiktok

Criticize*

[slim nexus]

Oh I think polish people can enjoy the game too

[whole solstice]

When does rt56 update to latest?

[lapis snow]

already did

[lunar horizon]

Yeah that is the context. There was a time a lot of femboys sent pictures of their thighs in tiktok with polish gameplay screen on background

[whole solstice]

Like a couple hours ago?

[slim nexus]

Extremely based

[lapis snow]

14ish ago

[whole solstice]

Ty

[lapis snow]

it was announced on their server

as all their updates are

[whole solstice]

Can you send me link in the dm?

[clear dagger]

i will attempt the ultimate challenge now

[slim nexus]

Man how you even can consider it a challange

[quasi shoal]

jesus christ

the soviets have the entire coast between me and them garrisoned

[drifting kiln]

if the land isnt cored its not a real challenge

all their manpower and equiment will be in garrison

[clear dagger]

its all cored

theres probably an easier way to core it all besides the way i did it

my fingers hurt

[drifting kiln]

probably impossible then

[drifting kiln]

unless using some manpower exploit

[fierce mist]

[drifting kiln]

I support this

[clear dagger]

the women will work overtime wink wink

[fierce mist]

Ok?

[drifting kiln]

the women vill man the factories

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

500 manpower

[misty minnow]

How is the new naval now

[minor coral]

Just checking in: is the new DLC worth it? I'm thinking of getting it and trying out Republic of China or Japan

[crimson rune]

Yes if you like the East-Asian Theatre. There will probably be some day 1 patch to fix the minor bugs (Hopium)

[misty minnow]

I wanna get the dlc purely for the Phillipines meme tree

I dont care if people say only schizoids would play it

[tulip thorn]

Funny enough, im literally playing that right now

[clear dagger]

bruh gotta reset my run cause luxembourg refuses to flip to commie

[minor coral]

I must admit I mostly avoided playing East Asian countries due to the lackluster content but this DLC seemed to give the front a new breath of life

[tulip thorn]

Doing the monarchist path

Juan the 3rd

[misty minnow]

The entire mac Arthur focus tree is literally playing as CiV 1 Ghandi

[grand wolf]

The usa is so nice they sending me things to fight the allies with

[minor coral]

Maybe I'll just wait til the day 1 patch drops

[tulip thorn]

Wait does this actually just give you half of the american navy 💀

Thats wild

[grand wolf]

What country

[tulip thorn]

Didnt even look at the american military stuff as the Philippines

[misty minnow]

Can you still gain mac Arthur after doing this focus

[tulip thorn]

he is at the top

[runic wraith]

im a begginer and i just bought every dlc. hope it not gonna be too complicated

[tulip thorn]

Now im wanting to do a historical run

[clear dagger]

what the hell is going on