hoi4-general

[tulip thorn]

I like it

[queen lava]

Japan is good but the new changes make all minor nations trash and makes the game slower

[nocturne grove]

Playing as Nat China with the new DLC, I randomly got RADAR tech at some point early in the game (around 1939) but im not sure how. it wasnt unlocked via focus and i never got a popup. just randomly noticed I could build it at a certain point. does anyone know where it came from?

[tulip thorn]

The faction stuff is cool, I like the new doctrine system. I dont hate the coal system. Overall pretty good

[woven dragon]

Saturn

[nocturne grove]

?

[silk fern]

i have heard that china is heavily nerfed/japan is buffed to the point that they just get steamrolled in 38

[woven dragon]

How does a country like Latvia become even more trashy

[vapid oasis]

Just wishlisted the new dlc, 30 bucks is one hell of a price

[woven dragon]

Jupiter?

[grand wolf]

Playing as the Philippines is nice

[nocturne grove]

idk im playing as China and defeating Japan was NOT hard. although player vs AI capability is a nightmare to balance.

[grand wolf]

China was beating me when I played as japan, so I definitely did something wrong

[woven dragon]

I am sure within a few weeks it will be balanced again

[deep solstice]

oh man I LOVE playing major nations

[queen lava]

Wow love that even though i am legit right there, no range ✌️😭

[deep solstice]

So nice to play as the USSR after spending 3 hours trying to FUNCTION as austria

[nocturne grove]

I think the issue is focus priority. China can basically get rid of almost all their important army debuffs early and quickly, and quickly build up storng buffs

[grand wolf]

Nah its 1942 for me rn and china is still doing good, lost the entire coast tho

[versed moon]

Is anyone having issues with the game crashing when playing as RoC?

[fickle thicket]

it sucks they didnt even update base game focus tree with a refresh at the bare minimum

[nocturne grove]

no but i have randomly gotten big lag spikes from nowhere (and it wasnt any RKs being created or anything)

[vapid oasis]

NO FREE UPDATE CHANGES!?

[fickle thicket]

nope

[nocturne grove]

they locked the new warlords existing behind a paywall

[vapid oasis]

NO NEW FREE FEATURES!? AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[woven dragon]

Also, fun fact the current portrait for Yan Xishan (they did not update it) is from 1947!
This picture is from the 30’s so who can I ask to get it changed?

[nocturne grove]

pay money to make the borders of china not be made up

[fickle thicket]

not even doctrines

[vapid oasis]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[grand wolf]

Is the doctrine system not free?

[nocturne grove]

on the forums they respond to questions and such often

[vapid oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

[fickle thicket]

lemme check rq

[woven dragon]

Where May I find those?

[split bane]

Put it in the forums ig

[nocturne grove]

but the current Yishan portrait he looks younger than he does in that pictrure u sent

[nocturne grove]

the hoi4 forums?

[woven dragon]

Oh

[nocturne grove]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv.844/

[deep solstice]

it is

lol

[nocturne grove]

its where the devs talk with the community and such

[grand wolf]

Technically I could make level 12 forts

[woven dragon]

They did update his portrait in NCNS?

[grand wolf]

Good

[deep solstice]

austria is giving me aids

I gave up after 3 tries

between adolf dookiebird, and 0 manpower

[nocturne grove]

nope its the same one. but to me he looks younger than the image u sent, which is not what the portrait in game is

[deep solstice]

I think I hit my wits end

[silk fern]

austria is 100% rng

[grand wolf]

Try czechoslovakia

[deep solstice]

repost!

[deep solstice]

alr

i also wanna try spain

[fair zodiac]

So how is the new combat and faction stuff, i can't try it till sunday but still am interested to know

[deep solstice]

Dude I had 3 seperate outcomes each time

First time, I formed the central powers, but lost bc my border was too big

and 0 manpower ofc

[grand wolf]

Bro japan tried to naval invade me once and hasn't tried since

[woven dragon]

Kurt von Schuschnigg gives and takes

[deep solstice]

second time, germany randomly dropped me in 1938 when I only had low anschluss

[grand wolf]

What are they doing bruv

[deep solstice]

and the third time

[nocturne grove]

faction stuff is cool on a macro scale but u dont notice it too much. the other content is amazing tho. only issue is most countries start with very little coal

[woven dragon]

You are on his bad side @deep solstice

[deep solstice]

THE ENTIRE AXIS POWERS (ITALY LITERALLY GUARANTEED ME THEN SWITCHED UP) DECLARED ON ME

[fickle thicket]

screw you paradox

[deep solstice]

I was fighting romania, hungary, bulgaria, germany, and italy

so

i think im done with austria for a little bit

[woven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-clash-royale-emote-gif-23858585

[deep solstice]

needless to say

[vapid oasis]

the only free thing we got out of this update was coal. LIKE WE'RE NAUGHTY CHILDREN ON CHRISTMAS

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/scans-scaans-cat-cheese-gif-24582550

[deep solstice]

Bruh I got the doctrines 😭

I did not buy ts 😭

[broken sky]

is the faction update out yet

[broken sky]

woah what

revamped doctrine UI?

fokadsoadsiodsioasiodioa balls

[fickle thicket]

what version u on

[deep solstice]

newest

[fickle thicket]

what number

[deep solstice]

not sure specifically

lemme check

[fickle thicket]

might be behind a lil bit

[queen lava]

Hist Japan is def the best

Finally got Hawaii

[deep solstice]

waddafack

[vapid oasis]

whatever the case, I'm hopping into a germany game and see what I'm working with

[broken sky]

Tee

thirty

fowr

Te-tridsat

Chetyre

[grand wolf]

Eisenhower is mine now

[fickle thicket]

anyone know the newest version number

[drifting needle]

when will the hoi4 sweaters be back in stock

[vapid oasis]

I suppose while I wait for the DLC, I'll see what I can do to practice germany

[fickle thicket]

piss out tanks n air early

build civs til mid 37

[vapid oasis]

hmm, at least china is differently colored, no extra warlords tho

AND THERE'S NO NEW PHILIPPINES PORTRAIT

[fickle thicket]

mf what is the version number u on

[grand wolf]

Another failed naval invasion from japan

[maiden gull]

Why is my puppet a major but I'm not h

[vapid oasis]

the new update clearly

[drifting needle]

do you have the DLC

[grand wolf]

Unpause the game

[fickle thicket]

what version number

im on 1.16.10

[maiden gull]

I did they are a major I'm not

[vapid oasis]

no dlc

[grand wolf]

Weird

[drifting needle]

thats why then

[maiden gull]

Yeah this update has made my hoi buggy

Constant notifications of tanna tuva took leader ship of the comintern

[fickle thicket]

i havent even received the update yet

[grand wolf]

Hungary is a major in my game💀

[maiden gull]

I kinda wish I haven't 😭

[grand wolf]

You're games must be bugged then cuz that aint happens to me

[vapid oasis]

500 coal for total autarky now, doesn't seem to effect refineries tho

[maiden gull]

HOW DOES REPUBLIC SPAIN HAVE 200 DIVISIONS

[fickle thicket]

what template

[maiden gull]

How can I check if they aren't in my faction

[fickle thicket]

if u dont got ironman on

tag over to them

might be ghost divs

[maiden gull]

I do :(

Also 2000 planes

[vapid oasis]

boo, no medium shell option anymore

[maiden gull]

Nearly 3000

[fickle thicket]

dayum

gonna be hell if they join the comintern

[maiden gull]

Comintern is ded

[fickle thicket]

allies or cuf then

[maiden gull]

Yeah

I'm going to try to start a civil war with my ideology see if it wins

[fickle thicket]

who u playin

[maiden gull]

Fascist turkey

[fickle thicket]

ew

[maiden gull]

Ik right

[fickle thicket]

gonna take til 2080 to reach the bottom of the focus tree

[maiden gull]

Errr no DLC because I like pain

[fickle thicket]

so rt56

[maiden gull]

Also Italy just took owner of the Axis

Great 😃

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[maiden gull]

Abt to alt f4 man

[fickle thicket]

how bad is the situation

[maiden gull]

actually good but Liberia is now the leader of the allies though

But the weird ai is making me go insane

[fickle thicket]

screenshot frfr

[vapid oasis]

well that's enough looking around, see you guys in december when i can enjoy this new dlc properly

[maiden gull]

Hold up have to find out how to

I use discord on my phone so hol up

[fickle thicket]

if ur on windows hit prtsc

what phone

oh

js connect ur phone to computer then send it here

[fickle thicket]

general situation as well pwease

[maiden gull]

Comintern dead allies mid Japan owns like all of Asia nearly kicked allies out of Africa but U.K is about to do imperial federation so

[fickle thicket]

o

[deep solstice]

where are the navy buttons

...?

[fickle thicket]

base game or mod

[maiden gull]

Base

[fickle thicket]

wdym

[deep solstice]

there used to be buttons to combine fleets together

are they just

gone

[fickle thicket]

idk

[deep solstice]

Not an issue

[fickle thicket]

i cant experience it cuz update hasnt reached me yet

[deep solstice]

just a little weird ig

[broken sky]

Amazing

Literal amazing

clap clap clap

[maiden gull]

Ik right

[maiden gull]

Here's Europe btw

[dusky burrow]

true

[fickle thicket]

just d day already

sealion*

[distant knoll]

the new dominance thing is so bad

[maiden gull]

My Navy sucks ass and I have 0 idea with the new system yet

[distant knoll]

you need a fleet in every province

[maiden gull]

Kinda relying on Germany tbh

[distant knoll]

atleast the AI is stupid too

[fickle thicket]

do u even have a fleet

[maiden gull]

Yeah not much

[tepid crown]

No fuel, no supplies. Looking good 👍

[fickle thicket]

then start shitting out subs

[deep solstice]

is there any downsides to behead the snake?

[maiden gull]

Ik ik hoi4 pro here

[deep solstice]

im not seein it

[maiden gull]

Uhhhh 0 manpower

[fickle thicket]

what conscription level

[tepid crown]

Just patrol for a bit then you can strike force

[maiden gull]

Ireland joined the allies

[white pulsar]

I just got the new DLC. Gonna try it out.

[deep solstice]

your giving me flashbacks to austria....

[white pulsar]

I got the entire Expansion Pack 2.

Communist China, here we go.

[deep solstice]

Im gonna behead the snake

[white pulsar]

:0 What's that mean

[deep solstice]

the focus for the soviet union

[maiden gull]

Extensive trying to get more but that 0.35 PP growth hurts

[fickle thicket]

if u know u know

[white pulsar]

My neighbor.

[fickle thicket]

what army size

[deep solstice]

yeah your neighbor is about to assinate his political opponent

[maiden gull]

31 very well equipped divisions

About thousand planes

[fickle thicket]

anymore conquerable cores

[white pulsar]

Did you go with Stalin, Bukharin, or Trotsky, or one of the other two?

[deep solstice]

Stalin my goat

[maiden gull]

No 😭

Oh shet Germany declared on Ireland

[fickle thicket]

disband the airforce and go all in on navy

[white pulsar]

Best choice.

[broken sky]

The Centre path is the strongest

[maiden gull]

Ok sounds good

[fickle thicket]

also do u have Gibraltar

or one of ur allies

[maiden gull]

No will attempt to secure it

I'm a hoi4 noob

[slim nexus]

Guys, is it normal for "Tannu What" to takeover the Comintern, then Luxemburg takeover the Allies, then UK forget to actually use their navy on the british channel, and for Italy summon 55% of warscore after just taking 3 tiles of Egypt? (I were Germany, i killed Poland under a week, France in two and then like I said, i sealioned UK easily cus' as it seems they forgot how to navy 💀)

[fickle thicket]

does the uk have their main fleet in the med

[maiden gull]

No

[fickle thicket]

go now

js go

use ur shitty navy and get that rock

[maiden gull]

Would but they are still creeping a bit of dominance

So it will take a second

And I'm out of fuel

The allies have about 30 divisions on cyprus so I'm afraid on what they have on gibalter

Nvm they moved a lot off since I last checked

[white pulsar]

Can someone tell me which one is "Communist China"

Is it the Chinese Soviet Republic?

There be new countries, yo

[maiden gull]

Wait I could paradrop in London soon we almost have air superiority in the channel

[maiden gull]

Yes that the prc

[white pulsar]

Thank you.

[maiden gull]

Mhm

NO LIBERIA IS NOT THE LEADER OF THE ALLIES ANYMORE ITS IRELAND NOW

[cold vapor]

is it normal to suddenly get every dlc when u didnt buy them?

[dusky burrow]

WOOOOOOOOO

[maiden gull]

I randomly got access to Mexico and USA focus trees the dlc versions

[tiny tartan]

there is not a new manchuria focus tree and the DLC is 42 euro

[maiden gull]

Wjy is Bhutan Improving relationships with Republican Spain

[cold vapor]

luxembroug is actually really fun tbh

[tulip thorn]

Because they can

it doesnt do anything

[maiden gull]

But it's like so weird and out of the blue

This game is so funky now like the new faction system is making Ireland leading the allies

[cobalt dawn]

which is the best choice here?

[maiden gull]

Why is maintenance company lvl 2 called divisions in a border conflict?

[drifting grove]

has the community at wide decided to riot yet or are you just gonna take this?

[tulip thorn]

Look at the bonues and pick which you think is best

[tulip thorn]

I like using lots of infantry so I went infantry offensives

[drowsy ravine]

comintern switched again

all members of the comintern have had a turn leading

[tulip thorn]

lol

[drowsy ravine]

and they are about to go to war with me

im democratic finland

[tulip thorn]

First thing I changed in my faction is removing the ability to take faction leadership from me

[lost hollow]

Ma Hushan is such an aura farmer goddamn

[drowsy ravine]

you can do that?

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

[drowsy ravine]

ive never even

had it taken from me

is that supposed to be a problem?

[drowsy ravine]

that happens

[tulip thorn]

Japan is so fun ngl

[cobalt dawn]

how about zheng wentian

[drowsy ravine]

i wish the new DLC would load into the pack thingy

so i could play it >:(

did they change manchuko?

[lost hollow]

he has a really good build but the way ma hushans face is shadowed

pure aura

[tulip thorn]

The doctrine stuff is awesome

[drowsy ravine]

real

like

MWAH

[tulip thorn]

Manchuko has had a few changes

[drowsy ravine]

infinite replayability fr now

[drowsy ravine]

amazing

PEAK dlc

THE SOVIETS ARE COMIONG

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[lost hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1247888662071480353/1372307586564489237/attachment.gif

[cobalt dawn]

Looks like Zheng should step up his game

[tulip thorn]

not a full rework

[heavy vigil]

yes

[cobalt dawn]

btw did anyone notice the new ranger special forces?

[drowsy ravine]

AHGHGHGH

[tulip thorn]

yes

[drowsy ravine]

hopefully i survive

ive joined the allies >:)

LOL

I JUST JOINED AND I CAN TAKEOVER

should i?

for the funny

[cobalt dawn]

ima go for army reform and rethinking tank doctrine

(how do i make the best armor with the cheapest materials...)

[jovial carbon]

is no surrender no comprimise good?

[solid bane]

Heard it sucked.

Fairly new HOI4 player here, got about 200 hours. Can someone explain to me what the spearhead function does?

Is it just all units on the front line with the order will push through to that point?

[drowsy ravine]

hey

where is the faction management screen

[jovial carbon]

do yall know if the dlc is good?

[drowsy ravine]

i just took over and i want to make sure no one else can

[solid bane]

I heard it's bad. Not good reviews on Steam.

[heavy vigil]

from who?

imo its pretty good

[silk fern]

click this button

[solid bane]

In my defense I haven't played.

[drowsy ravine]

ok thanks

uhh

i dont see it

[solid bane]

I just heard it's far too expensive for basically just giving Japan a little rework.

[drowsy ravine]

and

china

and phillipenes

[solid bane]

I heard those changes were very minimal.

[tulip thorn]

a good 95% of those are just the price of it

[tulip thorn]

Yeah this is ragebait

[solid bane]

No?

It's genuinely what I heard lol.

[tulip thorn]

The difference in the japan focus tree is insane

[solid bane]

I dunno. Just what I heard.

I'll wait a little bit before I get it.

[tulip thorn]

This right here is just the historical stuff

[static horizon]

thought siam was getting a new focus tree

[silk fern]

definetly good new trees for china and japan, phillipine tree also seems solid but i will never play it

[tulip thorn]

Thats in the dlc thunder at the gates

[static horizon]

Oh

[tulip thorn]

Q2 2026

[heavy vigil]

thats free btw

[tulip thorn]

Thunder at the gates in indonesia, malaysia, thailand and australia

[static horizon]

Is it only siam or does it include other countries as well?

[tulip thorn]

Yeah I know

[heavy vigil]

ahist + manchu + china + philippines content is dlc

[static horizon]

Sounds interesting

[solid bane]

Can y'all explain the spearhead function to me?

[silk fern]

100$ for a siam tree

only

[heavy vigil]

its when you want to battleplan but worse

[static horizon]

for siam its worth it

[tulip thorn]

the spearhead ai is terrible

[heavy vigil]

its not

[solid bane]

I micromanage most of my divisions anyway, was just curious.

[heavy vigil]

its the button for actively ignoring flanks/safety

[tiny tartan]

breaking news Italy is even more dogshit now because it has only 7 coal so its industry is hindered from the very start of the game

[jovial carbon]

WHAT

how are we supposed to form rome

[sturdy forge]

Sweden literally has no coal? Doesnt even make sense

[jovial carbon]

wth so no industry?

sweden is back to being a normal boy

no more big ahhh industry

[sturdy forge]

Sweden has 200 steel but 6 coal?

lol

[tiny tartan]

You start the game like this

[maiden gull]

One person in my faction is capitulated but has 0% surrender process

[tiny tartan]

Idk man

[sturdy forge]

not even relistic

[tulip thorn]

So pretty much historical italy

[tiny tartan]

Dude who cares about Sweden
Germany has coal and it's all that matters in this game anyway

[tacit crane]

whyd they add coal

[tiny tartan]

it's meant to limit your industry growth so it's not infinite

[tulip thorn]

To balance near limitless industry

I like it

[tiny tartan]

I hated playing Italy, and now that it's industry is disabled from the start I don't think im ever gonna play it again

[sturdy forge]

If u dont care about sweden then you wouldn't have HOI4 as a game to begin with

[tacit crane]

so limit on fun?

[pastel solstice]

I predicted this when i first heard caol was coming. so focused on the majors they missed the effect on minors

[tulip thorn]

I love italy, so now that the industry is nerfed. Im going to enjoy the slightly harder challenge

[tiny tartan]

I actually think it's more fun for the economy to not snowball infinitely

But good luck playing minors now
If you can't core or get a bunch of compliance on coal-rich states your expansion is going to end quickly

[tacit crane]

china has like no coal

the main china

[tiny tartan]

Bulgaria can get a ton of factories from its focuses
But it has 2 coal now, so it's not gonna use that industry

[tulip thorn]

are we forgetting that coal can be traded

[valid prairie]

do chinese warlord civil war exploits still work?

[north spoke]

yes

[tacit crane]

are you forgetting that im playing as china

[north spoke]

but also countries that need coal dont have the civs to trade for it

[tacit crane]

and im going to fight japan unwillingly

[north spoke]

and countries that have the civs to trade for it dont need coal

[tiny tartan]

Oh wait that's right
However this still means you're gonna have to give up a bunch of civs

[vagrant crow]

ussr might be cooked in this patch since most of its coal is in donets

[north spoke]

is there not a bunch of coal in siberia

it feels like there should be

[late cypress]

whats the meta patrol composition

[tiny tartan]

Greece has one (1) coal 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/4lokogangemperor-coal-gems-soyjak-soyjack-gif-11252992701973331860

[tacit crane]

there isnt, its just stalino

[north spoke]

like russias largest coal reserves are in siberia

thats so stupid

[mellow spire]

Hallo!

[tulip thorn]

Already asking about new dlc meta 💔

[north spoke]

like 33% of siberia is coal

[tulip thorn]

Once again leave it to the modders to fix lol

[north spoke]

we should just make modders the devs

[pastel solstice]

yeah like that works late game

[tacit crane]

the modders made a better china tree than the actual devs

[north spoke]

how does coal even work?

[tiny tartan]

Wales, the state in UK, just has 106 coal
Majors are just filled with tons of coal randomly

[vagrant crow]

idk the tooltip doesnt explain it very well

[tacit crane]

its fuel but for factories

[north spoke]

ic

[tulip thorn]

Gives your factories debuffs if you dont have enough

[north spoke]

they should have done better with the coal

the coal should be spread out

like the rhineland has a shitload of coal randomly

[tacit crane]

there should be more coal

[tulip thorn]

Like will lower factory output

[tacit crane]

especially in china

[daring geyser]

this is absolute pain to mod

[tacit crane]

all the chinese coal is in shanxi and the japanese puppets

like this is not fun

[tiny tartan]

Norway has 0 coal

[daring geyser]

i have my mp mod and i have never had so many issues fixing errors as with this patch

[tulip thorn]

oh my

[tacit crane]

i hope no one actually buys the dlc

[daring geyser]

i spent the last 9hrs just patching my mod

[tiny tartan]

Guys but the Rhineland is le important and stuff
So it should have 10 million coal

[tacit crane]

this is actually somehow worse than toa and goe

[vagrant crow]

because of coal?

[tiny tartan]

Finland has 0 coal

[north spoke]

i feel like lower germany, like bavaria, should have more coal

bc mountains

[tacit crane]

all the coal is in the us and even that feels too little

[daring geyser]

i made my prediction months ago, this update would either make hoi4 a lot better or ruin it lol

[tacit crane]

its definitely option 2
they should not have done a bice

[north spoke]

im gonna learn hoi4 modding just to fix this dubious dlc

[bold bloom]

So uhh I guess my purchase was a free donation to the development team I love that

[tulip thorn]

This isnt even close to bice

[daring geyser]

eh tbf the new mechanics aren't that hard to boggle your mind around

[mystic sand]

The good thing is its very easy to balance resource deposits

[tulip thorn]

Its bad, but not bice

[daring geyser]

just like

a lot of them are broken

ppl already found new exploits

[dense radish]

Does the irregular sub doctrine unlocks irregular inf?

[daring geyser]

like you can dismantle the allies as the uk and make it a resource faction

then you will instantly get 10% production, output, construction speed

[wicked haven]

What

[sharp sierra]

so hows the new release going

[finite valley]

Is new dlc good or bad?

[pastel solstice]

BAD

[north spoke]

mid

[finite valley]

Why?

Is it at least worth buying?

[north spoke]

doctrines are neat and coal is neat but coal is poorly implemented

[tacit crane]

the china tree sucks

[north spoke]

and the new focuses are kinda clunky

[tacit crane]

use sleeping dragon

[mystic sand]

Okay, im about to play japan for the first time, please tell me theres a way you can peace out with the allies without having to drive all the way to Liverpool from japan

[finite valley]

I think it will just be pain in the ass to menage all that energy stuff

[north spoke]

dont declare on the USA

[pastel solstice]

coal the new naval system, and factiomns

[green plume]

is it good that i attacked the USSR in december 1943 and won in a year

[north spoke]

it kinda is

[mystic sand]

But I want the Phillipines brotato

[bold bloom]

I can’t even play it cause the launcher doesn’t register it as a paid item

[north spoke]

its not terrible but some states just randomly have 1902384213450897021934857 coal

[pastel solstice]

wow

[north spoke]

then wait

deal with allies first, then usa

[finite valley]

They shouldve made dlc for balkans before far east asia to be honest

[north spoke]

usa and UK

[sharp sierra]

such sexy marketing for this crap too

[bold bloom]

Rs

[tulip thorn]

I like the new naval stuff

[tulip thorn]

God no

Japan needed a fix asap

[mystic sand]

Serbian hands wrote this

[normal vortex]

isnt that just battle of the bosphorous and death or dishonor

[sharp sierra]

albanian

[tacit crane]

china needed it as well

[finite valley]

Nah

[pastel solstice]

no minors having navy is useless now. check out Bittersteels livestream on tuesday

[wicked haven]

True

[mystic sand]

Anyway thats stupid that they added a way for you to white peace with the soviets but not the us

[finite valley]

I just think it would be intresting to make good insurgency mechanics in game

[bold bloom]

Well the Balkans are a very confusing place if you make it too realistic everyone turns it into a political nightmare

So I mean eh

It can wait

[finite valley]

Who cares man, its fun

[tacit crane]

chinese focus tree in waking the tiger

[bold bloom]

A lot of people do

[mystic sand]

Bosnian?

[bold bloom]

I remember when the Chinese got mad over one incorrect province in the India leaks 7 months ago

[finite valley]

The chauvanistic cavemans from balkans do not have impact in their opinions

[drowsy ravine]

when is the DLC gonna load onto the pack thingy :(

[tulip thorn]

This might be one of the most polarizing dlc launches in any game that I have ever seen

[mystic sand]

Horse armor

[daring geyser]

ah yes, battle for the bosphorous should be RE RELEASED... death or dishonor too

[finite valley]

Im from afganistan

[tacit crane]

the chinese are about to alt f4

[mystic sand]

Thats basically bulgaria

[normal vortex]

why does this dlc cost more than gotterdammerung

[finite valley]

Yeah

[mystic sand]

Uhhhhhhh

[tacit crane]

no way

[bold bloom]

I wish hoi4 would have a better devastation implementation

[sharp sierra]

gutter dung was 25

[tacit crane]

BRUH 30 DOLLARS

[sharp sierra]

i think

[tacit crane]

this dlc is worth like 15

[sharp sierra]

5 dollars in content 25 for all the crap marketing

[bold bloom]

Honestly the German dlc is hella good

[finite valley]

I think hoi4 should add civilian casulties also

[bold bloom]

Rs

[sharp sierra]

i still think it was stupid kind of

cool trees

[tiny tartan]

I would probably still buy this DLC, but my PC is too weak and I play with Asia removed so it's pointless lol

[mystic sand]

Lowk hoi4 should make you hate the war

[bold bloom]

It’s a bit well sketchy at times

[sharp sierra]

special projects annying as hell for the most part i never used raids once

[tulip thorn]

no

[sharp sierra]

germany declaring war on ireland and sinkiang and shit

[tulip thorn]

and never going to happen

[finite valley]

I played TFR man, I fell in love with war coz of it

[tiny tartan]

they add civilian casualties and some sneaky mf will make a 6 million mod

[normal vortex]

4 countries and a shitty factions and doctrines update for 30 bucks

oh and the coal update

[tiny tartan]

and an even sneakier mf will change it to 271k

[bold bloom]

Why do you disagree if I may ask

[tacit crane]

idk why they make you have to rely on coal

we have fuel and oil

[mystic sand]

Im being serious, hoi4 should make you really feel how disturbing ww2 and war in general is

[bold bloom]

This is a game about “historicalish” settings

[mystic sand]

Im not saying make it a spreadsheet

[tiny tartan]

dude go play TNO
hoi4 is just a war game where you form your funny empire

[bold bloom]

I think hoi4 would be better if it actually implemented the system of Germanys brutal occupation

[finite valley]

That ontological claim is debatable

[tulip thorn]

hoi4 is not a game that needs such a thing

[tacit crane]

i just saw that germany needs 500 coal

yeah nah im not playing germany

[tulip thorn]

Its not necessary

[normal vortex]

bro they better put a sale fast

[daring geyser]

hoi4 was only meant to have a historical vibe in its early days sadly. the game has driven away from its original artistic concept. i still remember the early days tho, with the lack of bloat, listening to allied radio whilst 2018 me barely knew what i was doing

[normal vortex]

i am not buying full price

for this shit

[stable bone]

Where can I find somewhere to make a bug report?

in the new DLC

a piece of content not working

[tacit crane]

are you reporting the entire dlc by chance

[tulip thorn]

The paradox forums

[tiny tartan]

Germany starts with one of the highest coals though so it's probably fine

[sharp sierra]

same

[normal vortex]

maybe if it was half the price i'd buy

[tacit crane]

alright im saying goodbye to any chance to play a minor

[normal vortex]

because thats how much its really worth compared to other dlc

[tacit crane]

romania historical? gone

[tiny tartan]

Idk why the make these so expensive
I don't think any other studio does that

[bold bloom]

I was into freakin Fortnite at the time cause I was young then fell in love with the game over a year ago

[stable bone]

no I noticed that when playing Japan you dont get your promised carrier production added through focuses (you only get the Yamatos)

[tiny tartan]

42 euro for a DLC that is just one of many is insane

I would pay 42 euro for a complete overhaul of the game

[finite valley]

On everybodys soul except mine, everyone wants hoi4 to add war crimes

[tiny tartan]

but these are ironically free

[tulip thorn]

Warcrimes are a terrible thing to add

[tacit crane]

i can recommend a mod that gives china a better focus tree

[tiny tartan]

Hot take I don't want war crimes I want there to be more to the economy
Like agriculture for example

[tulip thorn]

8 years of resistance

[tacit crane]

sleeping dragon

[bold bloom]

War crimes make sense for the game because people always forget the actual brutality of war

[tacit crane]

yeah, eight years

[tacit crane]

even japan's tree is better in eight years than this

[tulip thorn]

I would legit stop playing hoi4 if warcrimes were in it

[waxen gale]

sigh， many good generals of
chiang kai shek are missing

[finite valley]

I was joking man, do yall not have instagram so yall dont understand that format of joke?

[normal vortex]

autumn begonia trust

[daring geyser]

hoi4 should have a darker and more immersive experience but i disagree with it needing warcrimes or smth like that

just that the game in its current state feels too casual and lighthearted, the atmosphere is too bloomy and 90% of the time i forget i am playing a ww2 game

[normal vortex]

gambling!!! gambling!!! gambling!!!

[finite valley]

Soft

[bold bloom]

I think it should be a option to have on or off and both options still give achievements

[tulip thorn]

I agree to this

[stark coyote]

Ngl, new dlc art looks like AI lmao

[finite valley]

Play TFR, best mod ever, still in development tho

[tiny tartan]

I feel like a lot of people hop on hoi4 for a casual experience
There are many mods that make the game more immersive and dark and such

[daring geyser]

tfr is way too shizophrenic storybuilding for my liking

[sharp sierra]

enable war crimes only in indian provinces

[daring geyser]

i played the us and didn't like it at all

[finite valley]

Its kinda realistic if you know the lore

[normal vortex]

i mean hoi4 uses ai for portaits now so maybe

[tiny tartan]

If you're not into schizophrenic politics why even play hoi4 mods

[tacit crane]

paradox is writing that down and is going to charge like 10 dollars

[finite valley]

What warlord did you play? Be honest

[daring geyser]

i don't

[pearl stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/don't-mention-the-war-fawlty-towers-basil-fawlty-john-cleese-the-germans-gif-15031695745673793103

[daring geyser]

bidens america

[stark coyote]

They don't even make an effort anymore 💀

[tulip thorn]

yeah sure im just soft, not wanting the suffering of civilians to be capitalized off of

[bold bloom]

I would play black ice for that immersion but uhh Thats not fun

[rustic coral]

is anyones anschluss focus broken?

[tacit crane]

so thats why horthy and hitler looks like that

[finite valley]

Thats too easy, you shouldve tried to play atomwaffen for full expirience

[normal vortex]

yeah they fed both to AI to "Refine" them

[finite valley]

Its a video game man

[bold bloom]

Next portrait just got leaked in this gif

https://tenor.com/view/ryuk-death-note-anime-william-dafoe-dragon-ball-z-gif-15607982591237172365

[tacit crane]

bruh r56 has a better hitler portrait

[daring geyser]

eh i would say black ice is not fun not because it's too hard but because it's just easy but bloated, you can still sealion and do things that would be ridiculous in real life so that for me just makes the mod vanilla hoi4 with you needing to assign every worker manually to each conveyor belt

[tacit crane]

also

their hirohito portrait is straight from r56

[tiny tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278359151310798961/1327758595214807130/having_fun.gif

[tacit crane]

they love stealing stuff from modders (starting from bba with how bba was straight up just lvn)

[finite valley]

Guys if you want good hoi4 mod check out "from men to wolfes"

[tiny tartan]

modders be making fire stuff though

[finite valley]

It didnt get released sadly but I played demo

[tacit crane]

LVN was released in barbarossa

[bold bloom]

The fire rises actually makes me feel immersed in the last 5 years of my life

[pearl stirrup]

i was microing the invasion of the uk while my front with the soviets was full green with 1-2 speed and after 20 secs i looked back and they almost reached berlin. bru i have 450 divisons on the front line (300 14 combat width infantry and 150 30 combat width armour pushing supply hubs)🥀🥀🥀 (i forgot to mentions the soviets were practicly capitulated

[tacit crane]

but it was not updated due to the release of BBA

[finite valley]

What is LVN?

[tacit crane]

L' Vittoria e Nostra

[daring geyser]

that's not true by the hoi4 devs themselves, just a community rumor

[finite valley]

Exactly bro, its amazing mod

[bold bloom]

It’s the only modern day mod I like tbh

[finite valley]

Only modern day mod that doesnt require nasa pc and still has hundreds of walords on detealed map

[bold bloom]

Yes

You also have the sea of doom

In that mod

[finite valley]

All my homies hate millenium dawn

[tacit crane]

basically dont play millenium dawn

[mystic sand]

Wait a damn minute. I have free will, I can just make a peace out mod

[finite valley]

Ik

[daring geyser]

i gotta respect millenium dawn at least because i remember it was there since bloody 2017, used to watch isp play it

but it has always been just SO SLOW and still is SO SLOW

[bold bloom]

Economy makes me wanna blow li head out

[tacit crane]

is chiang alive

[finite valley]

And they removed 2020 scenario

[bold bloom]

I don’t wanna play a little silly war game and manage a economy

[tacit crane]

and gave up on 2016

[finite valley]

In millenium dawn just raise taxes for corpos to almost max and lower taxes for civilians and you get massive economy

[normal vortex]

you tell me 😭😭😭😭

[daring geyser]

i think hoi4 would be cooler if it actually had an economy tbf, just it would make playing multiplayer really painful

[normal vortex]

this is 1919 so its not chiang time yet

[neat kayak]

how is the new dlc?

[normal vortex]

big china mod with gambling!! gambling!!

[tacit crane]

horrible

dont buy it

[neat kayak]

no way

[bold bloom]

I wish economy was in the base game but not a super complex thing

[neat kayak]

:)))

[normal vortex]

Its a scam for its price wait until the sale

[tacit crane]

its worse than trials of alleigance and goe

[tulip thorn]

Not even close

[dusky burrow]

cringe how this is not all just Alash Orda

[finite valley]

Economy in real life is not that compley either

[tulip thorn]

I know you think its terrible, but nothing is worse than goe

[daring geyser]

from what ive seen it's probably alright just with a lot of broken stuff

i couldnt play it for long cuz i had to go patch my mod lol

[bold bloom]

Ik there is a mod that adds milinuim dawn economy physics into base game but you bet your bumm it will take 3 years to get to 1939

[tulip thorn]

and toa was a good dlc

[neat kayak]

ToA is an okaish dlc

[normal vortex]

true... alash world domination

[dusky burrow]

ewww wtf is the turkestan soviet 🤮

[tulip thorn]

just overpriced

[bold bloom]

I have the mod if anybody wants it but it’s kinda janky

[tacit crane]

goe didnt add a mechanic that treats modders like how OWB treats its modders

[finite valley]

I have mod that can make black thug shaker a leader of germany

[daring geyser]

nah, all of its nonhist paths make no sense at all and the hist ones are barely coherent

like i know hoi4 doesn't make a lot of sense in mostly all nations, but toa always has like "we unite all of south america" even though that makes no sense since south americans are not alike and don't share the same culture

[neat kayak]

what nations did you guys play from the new dlc?

[daring geyser]

also lets not mention brazil putting lampião in charge would be the american equivalent of making michael de santa from gta president

[tulip thorn]

Goe focus trees are unplayable

[tacit crane]

en union y libertad is better

[topaz dove]

Anyone tried the new dlc?

[normal vortex]

before and after

[daring geyser]

india is really strong in goe it's just so boring tho

[normal vortex]

wow they changed the cliques flags up

[bold bloom]

Nope

[normal vortex]

cool

[neat kayak]

i didn't

[bold bloom]

Won’t work

[tacit crane]

they didnt even give historical path of china and japan for free like they did with italy

[topaz dove]

It's $30 right?

[daring geyser]

i tried it, i think it being terrible is greatly exaggerated, just really broken

[neat kayak]

i am gonna try the game without dlc

[tacit crane]

yes

[tulip thorn]

Yeah they did

[finite valley]

I never actually knew whats up with that dude, was he real? Since he is nowhere to be found on Namibia presidents list

[neat kayak]

the focus tree for the phillippines is full of 70 days

[daring geyser]

they should have given the US a rework instead of this crap btw 😴

[neat kayak]

or am i wrong

[daring geyser]

china already got a dlc, we needed a US-JAP dlc

followed by an ENG-FRA dlc

[bold bloom]

From the YouTube videos I’ve seen it dosent look that bad it looks really fun but like you said just really broken

[finite valley]

And balkan dlc

[tacit crane]

yo suppression

[cedar lance]

why is NCNS 30 euros?

[tacit crane]

its 30 usd in the us

[daring geyser]

remember back in 2020 when we had soviets and italy with the worst trees known to mankind and we got a dlc for portugal and another one for southern baltic countries? xddd

this is the same vibes

[finite valley]

But than we got no step back

[tacit crane]

and bba

[finite valley]

Which is top tier dlc

[daring geyser]

that was 2021

[finite valley]

I dont follow histiry of hoi4 that much

[topaz dove]

Is there any focus tree expansion? Or is it just a few changes in gameplay?

[finite valley]

I just wanted ti say no step back is top tier in my opinion

[daring geyser]

it's universally top tier

[finite valley]

Marketing for it was also sexy

[tulip thorn]

They actually removed focus trees from the game

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-artillery-edit-ussr-hoi4-gif-450082702954727848

Absolutely

[topaz dove]

Wha

[finite valley]

I just wish beaten but not defeated got more content

And democratic path

[tacit crane]

sheeps mod gives you democratic path through events

[tulip thorn]

Focus trees have been removed

[stark coyote]

My godly No Step Back 🥵

[tacit crane]

discord version

[neat kayak]

Japan now starts with 3 research slots.....

[bold bloom]

I may have a hot take but the turkey focus tree is not that bad I think it’s kinda good however the waiting time is horrid

[stark coyote]

Buuuuuuuuuuh

[daring geyser]

i think the worst hoi4 dlcs are

6.BBA
5.ncms
4.la resistance
3.battle for the bosphorous
2.TOA
1.GOE

[neat kayak]

i am gonna play a game with the historical tree

[stark coyote]

BBA was good 😞

[neat kayak]

since i didn't buy the dlc

[finite valley]

Did they add that chemical warfare research unit in japan?

[sharp sierra]

weve been beaten and defeated

[finite valley]

In this new dlc

[sharp sierra]

taken countless steps back

[wary sparrow]

new south east asain releaseables finally

[sharp sierra]

compromised and surrendered

[neat kayak]

cuz i want to read more about this dlc

[sharp sierra]

and died with no honor

[tulip thorn]

Why do you want warcrimes in hoi4 so bad

Like why

[sharp sierra]

he said hes from afghanistan

[finite valley]

Im just asking man

[daring geyser]

only added the plane designer, which made mp more unbalanced 😪

tbf it did revamp italy which desperately needed a revamp but i think the new italy is mid content wise

[stark coyote]

Im really struggling deciding if I should buy the DLC or not, some opinion?

[bold bloom]

I was playing communist China before the dlc came out and the Soviets refused to join my war so I was just slowly beaten to death

[tulip thorn]

Dont avoid my question

[bold bloom]

Due to attrition

[tulip thorn]

Why do you want warcrimes so bad

[topaz dove]

Rahhh!!! SEA MENTIONED 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[grand wolf]

I wonder if mobile warfare is better

[wary sparrow]

we finally got east timor gameplay

[daring geyser]

much better than prepatch 100%

[finite valley]

I dont want them that bad, I just asked if they added the unit, since it would be historical

[stark coyote]

Im biased toward Italy, but tbf Swiss and Ethiopia focus tree are really meh

[tacit crane]

dude wants to larp as dirlewanger really hard

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-gif-25596232

[grand wolf]

Im playing a german game rn ima test it out

[topaz dove]

Ok, that's it. I'm buying the new dlc just because SEA releaseable

[wary sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/association-of-southeast-asian-nations-myanmar-thailand-vietnam-laos-gif-16024495166561957498

[wary sparrow]

they are free

no need for dlc

[topaz dove]

Wait...true?

Dang

[bold bloom]

I bought the dlc within the first 10 minutes of it coming out

[wary sparrow]

yuh

havent bought it just yet

[bold bloom]

I just want to reform communist China

[topaz dove]

Ok, I'm hopping in the game

[wary sparrow]

once i do i gotta remake my map of every country in the game

[bold bloom]

But dlc no work me wanna die

My money is just a free donation at this point

I pirated the rest

[stark coyote]

Bruh, fair enough tbb

Tbb

Tbh damn

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-sigma-sigma-male-sigma-face-sigma-sad-gif-1104517607520530969

[daring geyser]

how it feels to having stopped buying hoi4 dlc after AAT

[wary sparrow]

we got Palau, West Papua, East Timor, Singapore, Brunei, Sarawak, Sabah, and Champa in SEA now

[bold bloom]

The only one I bought was no compromise

[wary sparrow]

still no Sao tome releaseable tho

[stark coyote]

I pre ordered until GDM 😞😞😞

[bold bloom]

Shits so expensive

[wary sparrow]

and the rest of the pacific islanders (and indian ocean) havent been done yet

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26560971

[stark coyote]

Because of the songs, but now they released a pack for all of them

[tacit crane]

what about gotterdammerung

[full jewel]

question why is my ships that are in a friendly port of someone who is involved in the war not giving me any range at all and limiting me to my own territories?

[daring geyser]

i bought MTG, LAR, NSB, BBA, AAT

[stark coyote]

I feel scammed

[wary sparrow]

i think the rest of the Pacfiic is coming last

when they drop the indonesia focus trees

[wary sparrow]

i bought all of them but SA and middle east

[bold bloom]

I want the United States to have a new focus tree the US is just so hard to get wrong

[wary sparrow]

i meant the pacfic islanders will likely come with the indonesia focus tree

[tacit crane]

you're saying that to paradox devs

[daring geyser]

the usa just needs a focus tree, like, please paradox please, my SP main is kinda homeless

[bold bloom]

I feel like they have no actual historians working for them

Just basic guidelines called history

[wary sparrow]

c'est peak

[daring geyser]

(usa doesn't get any major focus tree changes since MTG and a lot of its focuses are identical to 1.0)

[stark coyote]

Next DLC, USA, 50usd and more AI art and portraits 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Maybe a bad mechanic

[daring geyser]

at least we don't have pax americana anymore

that shi was annoying

[bold bloom]

Might as well call it hearts of iron bo7 at this point

[grand wolf]

Nah it'll be called that once we get a battle pass

[stark coyote]

And Im a big HOI4 fan 😞

[bold bloom]

I just want a realistic electricity system for hoi4

[cedar lance]

im buying NCNS today

[stark coyote]

To get better portraits 💀

[tacit crane]

dont

[bold bloom]

Doesn’t even work for me

[daring geyser]

paradox only doesn't add construction speed boostable by gems amd construction LVLs and MANA because it's a pc game

else it wouldnt be hoi4 it'd be a city building sim

[sharp sierra]

paradox is not getting another dollar from me ive been like this since before the update

[grand wolf]

Don't forget about the skins gotta have new skins

[full jewel]

hey im moving my ships to different docks but the range isnt changing at all

[daring geyser]

buy 50 gems to get 10 roosevelt points

[sharp sierra]

shits like world of tanks

[stark coyote]

At this point Ill keep playing CK3 and kill babies to get a Kingdom title until HOI4 decides to give me a sale or I do other stuff 🥵🥵

[grand wolf]

Nah 1 Roosevelt point

[wary sparrow]

the map thickens

[deep solstice]

im getting phat

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jack-sparrow-gif-11754678

[atomic maple]

hey is anyone else experincing crashes with the new update?

in multiplayer

[daring geyser]

in hoi4 next dlc theyll add microtransactions and mafia city level up system

[sharp sierra]

i just dont even want to play any of their stuff anyways anymore

[bold bloom]

Not to concern you but you may be pregnant!

[neat kayak]

GTM was peak

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/level-up-dancing-victory-dance-happy-dance-transformation-gif-15004862

[grand wolf]

Oh hell nah

[deep solstice]

Im still gonna lose btw 😭

[neat kayak]

only dlc post aat that was good

[stark coyote]

"I have a lvl. 250 Tukhachevsky"

[deep solstice]

this is just celebration before i lose

[daring geyser]

I've been experiencing a lot of crashes on Linux multiplayer since 1.16

[cedar kite]

they forgot about chile and puerto rico in hispanic union formable

[atomic maple]

its happening every auto save

almost

[bold bloom]

I’ve never had hoi4 crash for me

[atomic maple]

were in a multi on the new update and everything is going to shit no mods

[bold bloom]

If I was telling the truth

[atomic maple]

just the game

[grand wolf]

Jokes on my my Gerd von rundstedt is level -50

[bold bloom]

Still even then crash’s are rare for me

[lavish cliff]

wtf

[tulip thorn]

what

[grand wolf]

Its realistic now

[bold bloom]

Yes China looks like a spitting ball of acid

[daring geyser]

ofc i can, because i have 30 million power on hoi4

[bold bloom]

That’s historical accuracy for ya

[grand wolf]

China should've stayed like that after the cold war

[bold bloom]

China wasn’t even a threat in the Cold War they were still holding sticks by the 1980s

By 1990s they got their shit together

[tacit crane]

well i have 50 million!!!

[grand wolf]

Compared to the modern world they may as well still have sticks

[grand wolf]

I got 2

[bold bloom]

Never underestimate your own country’s ability my friend

[grand wolf]

I am American all I can do is underestimate them bc of our youth

[bold bloom]

I mean look at the us rn I would go into more depth but no politics

[stark coyote]

Well, at least Czechs future dlc would prob be goated

Hopefully

[grand wolf]

Drone

[bold bloom]

Czechs future dlc will give them 3 new focuses 1 additional civ and 2 additional steel and call it a day

[stark coyote]

I will be VERY offended

[grand wolf]

Nah half a steel

[bold bloom]

Cause the country of Czechoslovakia was not industrialized in the eyes of the paradox devs

[tacit crane]

yeah man, skoda, whats that?

[grand wolf]

But they were one of Europe's biggest economies

[alpine hare]

bouta buy the dlc

[stark coyote]

Yeah sure, a country with its own military industry isnt industrialized 💀

[grand wolf]

Get the subscription call it a day

[split bane]

Hey, since it's made by mod devs maybe it'll be much better

[tacit crane]

was this dlc made by mod devs

[merry bloom]

FORTY DOLLARS??????

[marsh wadi]

Ok mr 1%

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[tacit crane]

and was it made by bice modders by any chance

[marsh wadi]

Honestly just buy the subscription at this point

[atomic maple]

not worth man just subscription

[stark coyote]

Totally frustrating and insulting in my opinion

[grand wolf]

At least it aint 100 like the call of duty packs

[quasi shoal]

why are my troops's default ai (like where to go on frontlines) so much worse after the dlc dropped

[bold bloom]

Kinda crazy one of the most massive industrial bases in Europe doesn’t even get a spotlight in hoi4

[tacit crane]

you may as well get the expansion pack

[alpine hare]

damn 40 dollars?

[marsh wadi]

What. Is this a joke?

[stark coyote]

A healthy person wouldn't buy BO7 😭😭

[alpine hare]

thank god for regional pricing

[marsh wadi]

They’ve literally been ignoring asia

[tacit crane]

wait, healthy people play bo7?

[grand wolf]

I am not a mentally stable person

Zombies calls me

[stark coyote]

Damn 😭😭😭

[bold bloom]

B07 is ai slop

[deep solstice]

my first austria run I havent gotten shat on in

Im a silent observer

[novel otter]

Found a strat to win as China before 41

[deep solstice]

I might take some polish states but if I disturb the soviets or the germans ill be clapped

[grand wolf]

Lie in the shadows

[tacit crane]

hold the beijing line, if not then behind the yellow river?

[bold bloom]

You have 500k manpower

You need to put men into the field

[deep solstice]

every single run earlier I lost terrible with 0 manpower

it was a struggle to get here

oh yeah ik

im gonna make like 10 more divisions in a sec

[novel otter]

Nope, give it all lands to delay time, then encircle shanghai and kill japanese troops over and over. I lost 200k, japan lost 1.5mil

[grand wolf]

Just what if I invade the Netherlands in 1936

[bold bloom]

What’s your conscription look like?

[deep solstice]

just extensive

Its bc earlier

I didnt core hungary

so now that I cored them, I got like 500K manpower

[split bane]

Yeah... I refuse to get the DLC for $40 CAD
So the only real option is to get the expansion pack for $70 because otherwise it seems like I wasted my money

[deep solstice]

I only had 6 million population earlier

so it was really bad

[grand wolf]

Should I invade the Netherlands and get their puppet in 1936?

[stark coyote]

It's crazy how they managed to make my opinion of the Expansion Pass change dramatically

[bold bloom]

Either way you may just have to bite the bullet and go onto all adults serve when you go to war

And rush Slovakia and Czech for cores

[broken sky]

the pirates call you......

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/chevy-gif-7501683632341738547

Oops wrong gif

[deep solstice]

there goes poland

lol

[bold bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-twins-cat-sillycat-gif-1670230978140696872

[deep solstice]

glad I didnt intervene in that

[grand wolf]

Or hear me out, get the subscription for 6 months for 30 dollars and save even more money when the next dlc comes out

[broken sky]

Me when I am a blocky man with yellow skin coloration and wow my female friend with the same skin color but darker and edgier fit by constructing a car (famous brand, not endorsed) within seconds in front of her:

[split bane]

They do... I can see the Jolly Roger approaching from across the horizon... Which is very strange since I live like an hour away from the ocean

[broken sky]

[stark coyote]

I really want to play the new DLC but I don't have the money to pay for the DLC rn, I think I'll pay for the subscription pass

At least it's a good option for 1 month

[north spoke]

Do one month and if you like it switch to three months

Saves money

[grand wolf]

Alot of money

[broken sky]

yes, mr poopington, we follow your words

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[stark coyote]

Ill try that thanks, Paradox greed is getting out of hand lmao

[deep solstice]

bit of a rock in a hard place

[broken sky]

paradox aint even trying anymore

😔

[north spoke]

Paradox greed is starting to rival that of gaijin

[broken sky]

this is why i only ever play darkest hour

[stark coyote]

That's a goated comparison

[north spoke]

Elite ball knowledge

[stark coyote]

Now I feel bad for having played war and for 9 to 10 years 😞

War Thunder *

[broken sky]

wor tonder kanowlej

[north spoke]

I played war thunder for a long time and spent a lot of money

[stark coyote]

x2

[magic tinsel]

why is the price so high

[north spoke]

I went cold turkey two years ago and never looked back

[north spoke]

Greed

[split bane]

The platypus grows closer to the snail in terms of greed...

[stark coyote]

Greedy ahhhh company 😞

[magic tinsel]

i dont want to buy a goddamn subscription for like one dlc when i own the rest other than goe

[stark coyote]

At least snail still give me a lot of emotions

[cunning crescent]

How do I naval invade in the New dlc

Idk how to do it

[stark coyote]

Bad ones

But still

[north spoke]

You dont

Paratrooper superiotiy

[broken sky]

Yar har har, maties!

[wraith moon]

The same way as before

[cunning crescent]

Its not tho

[stark coyote]

Understandable, that's my situation rn

[split bane]

True, that's the issue that I'm having

[cunning crescent]

I do Naval Invadion support and It doesnt let me

[wraith moon]

It is

You have to gain dominance first

So do patrol

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

[split bane]

You need naval dominance, you can get it while doing patrol

[weak flower]

YES HOI 4 free to play weekends

[stark coyote]

🥵🥵🥵🥵

[stark coyote]

I can convince my friend that will only play 1 time in his life 🥵

[north spoke]

Hoi4 is peak and unpeak

[weak flower]

Im considering buying the game

but wanted to trial it 1st.

[stark coyote]

I reached a burnout with 4k hours 😞

[weak flower]

What should I do?

[stark coyote]

Try it first

[north spoke]

Paradox making unpredatory business decisions is a paradox

[grand wolf]

Woah

[stark coyote]

It's free for the weekend

[weak flower]

ok

[wraith moon]

I don’t think that’s the right word