hoi4-general

[ripe slate]

@north spokeLets not send random images of sex offenders

[hot patrol]

its just a romanian

oh fair

[north spoke]

Fair but also unfair

Because it's not really random

And it's very accurate

[hot patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1193239198300373133/1215347980572561548/attachment-7.gif

😭

[silent root]

how to fix this guys

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-stop-winning-lets-go-gambling-gif-7706745854605433240

[hot patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166502536048545862/1320764035834052710/attachment.gif

[hot patrol]

redraw border?

[silent root]

I can't

[north spoke]

Oh you're talking about the border

[hot patrol]

weird

[north spoke]

Yeah idfk

[silent root]

oh wait no

[hot patrol]

idfk

[silent root]

I am pushing

and the frontline DOESN'T MOVE

[north spoke]

Manually redo the Frontline on the battleplan

[hot patrol]

redraw??

[north spoke]

That might help

[hot patrol]

wait i just said that

[north spoke]

Wait

[hot patrol]

delete the frontline

[north spoke]

Restart game

[hot patrol]

then redo it

ye

[tepid nova]

The lion hates how he cannot draw one frontline across multiple countries

[hot patrol]

if that doesn't work ye

[north spoke]

Real

It's so stupid

It makes sense but it also doesnt

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-yes-sir-oorah-marines-ram-ranch-gif-22934490

all hail the lion

or smth

[north spoke]

Because sometimes you just want one nation but other times you will be fighting multiple nations

[astral turret]

The AI using dirty tactics againts you

[slim nexus]

Wake up boys we need to barborssa 🔥 🔥 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOTiXeziE4i/?igsh=NmZiYTY2MTdlNzE3

Instagram

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[slim nexus]

Just declare war on all of them

[snow portal]

how did we get here

[plain tusk]

Ref they got access to my powerline

[warped flint]

Guys should I tax my people more

[tepid crown]

wait, looking at the dlc just saw this, I dont remember this at all

[brittle wedge]

How I feel on the hoi 4 grind

[true needle]

I'm having trouble finding a nation that I like

[tepid crown]

Battleplan soviet build is fun

[patent thistle]

wut-

[true needle]

I would like a nation that has a good focus tree for at least 2 or 3 political paths, starting with little wars against individual nations and then escalating to major wars

Doesn't start with much (so I don't get overwhelmed) but has the capacity to rapidly scale and challenge majors industrially

And isn't a masochists dream to play

Basically a sandbox nation that isn't crippled by being a minor

[tepid crown]

probably something is south america, or asia/middle east

[true needle]

Poland is on my list because they actually had resources and manpower despite being a minor but you need to know what you're doing so you don't get curb stomped by Germany/russia

[patent thistle]

why do i have those-

[warped flint]

oh dear god help my debts getting bad

im scared

[true needle]

How do you play as Ukraine?

[patent thistle]

USSR fragemented gamerule

this is RT56 tho

[sudden thistle]

Belgium

[silent root]

why is hoi4 soo buggy all of a sudden?

[next jolt]

why does the admiral look like that?

[patent thistle]

rt56 has its own portraits so.

[warped flint]

Who is this

they look familar

[next jolt]

and who is that admiral?

[patent thistle]

too lazy to type that out

[gleaming iron]

the subhas chandra bose card lets you make india great again

[gleaming iron]

lol this happened to me once, but not on that menu

[patent thistle]

i also started (obviously) with a part of the soviet navy

including the battleships

which i renamed into the gangut class (the actual name they had before the soviets came)

[valid solar]

@young karma @jaunty tartan

[next jolt]

is that guy polish or what?

[warped flint]

bro what

[tulip thorn]

India was sending their best

[patent thistle]

ukrainian

[ornate marlin]

how can i make each medium tank chassis only convert its older version of the design without interfering in the other design

i.e. im building medium flame tank chassis and medium tank chassis, but i dont want the medium flame tank to convert the medium tank and vice versa

[tulip thorn]

Just dont convert

[still loom]

Umm

I just realized a thing about submarines

You put them to always engage and they can easily sink enemy

How true or accurate is this? Does it still work?

[ivory hull]

you kinda cant

just put the ones you dont want to convert

to not discarded

[tulip thorn]

Only if the subs actually good

Every nations starting subs are so trash they will all get sunk

[still loom]

If I spam 1944 subs?

Man

I gotta test this

Also now I understand why my subs just retreat without damaging much

I totally forgot about engaging mechanism

[tulip thorn]

But a 1940 sub or cruiser sub with Anechoic tiles

Will do amazing

[grizzled yarrow]

Someone pls help cuz i am a dumbahh
How can i invade france without uk intervention

[grizzled yarrow]

Im italy btw

[tulip thorn]

With enough of them and enough torp attack can even sink entire main fleets

[still loom]

I had 7 groups of 10 subs. Most of them could not do much

Just retreat

For some reason, I'm so excited rn

[tulip thorn]

You playing historical?

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah

[tulip thorn]

If so you cant prevent it

But you can easily rush down both the french and british

[grizzled yarrow]

Dndjxjdjf

[grizzled yarrow]

How

[tulip thorn]

Just paradrop both of them and you win

[grizzled yarrow]

Isnt that kind of cheesing it

[tulip thorn]

Yes

[still loom]

Aside from green bubbles, seeing a ship or convoy sink is so satisfying. Immediate dopamine rush

[tulip thorn]

But also really fun if you want to form rome early

[still loom]

I could do that all day without being tired

[grizzled yarrow]

I mean ig thats better than spending alot of time and resources on navy

Isnt navy gonna get reworked tho

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

And I cant wait for it

[still loom]

I saw this post. Made me curious

[tulip thorn]

I love navy in this game, a navy rework is right up my ally

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/submarine-periscope-see-torpedo-gif-17203208

[grizzled yarrow]

In the newest dlc?

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

[grizzled yarrow]

I have no idea how navy works sob

I just wanna play italy to maybe also learn navy

[tulip thorn]

Right now navy is really easy

You just need a crap ton of light attack with light cruisers and maybe like 2 super heavy battleships

[craggy trail]

[tulip thorn]

and you win

[grizzled yarrow]

No ac and like heck ton of bomber planes

[tulip thorn]

I only ever make ac for larp

Not because I need them

Like they are nice

But not needed if your just trying to win as fast as possible

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[grizzled yarrow]

I want to just win no matter the time 🥹✌️

[tulip thorn]

Light crusiers are your friend if so

[grizzled yarrow]

Sometimes i feel like the italian army is made of paper and prayers

[tulip thorn]

Holy

[tulip thorn]

Italy is my favorite nation to play

[ornate marlin]

also what does this mean
ive had 50 factories on this for months
and i go to start up my planes
and i have none
like where are the f fighters ive been building

[tulip thorn]

That a deficit

[ornate marlin]

how can i be in a deficit of a plane ive never used in combat

[tulip thorn]

Are you putting places on air fields?

[grizzled yarrow]

Its cool i cant lie it has rlly cool paths and stuff but i suck at playing italy i got used to play soviet union and to start with an actual good industry

[ornate marlin]

?

[tulip thorn]

Have you been deploying planes

[ornate marlin]

no

none aside from the starting planes germany has

i used fighters in spain but i only started making fighters 2s after spanish civil war ended

[tulip thorn]

Yeah its trying to reinforce and replace the planes you started with

[warped flint]

Im confused they definintely did some shit with the ai in thi smod

there actually resisting

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

[warped flint]

and the terrain debuffs are just bullshit

[tulip thorn]

What mod?

What mod are you playing

[warped flint]

Darkest hour

[tulip thorn]

I love darkest hour

[tulip thorn]

Thats the point

[warped flint]

I am just pissed off at these terrain debuffs

its just total bullshit

[tulip thorn]

Yeah I know

Lol

Had to deal with that yesterday

[ivory hull]

-88% in urban tiles...

[tulip thorn]

For once I had to make lots of different types of special good units for different areas

[grizzled yarrow]

Yo btw are like 1936 planes decent enough to get air superiority to paratroop?

[tulip thorn]

God no

[warped flint]

yeah im stuck

[tulip thorn]

You just got to get lucky

[grizzled yarrow]

Gulp

[warped flint]

Thats like

[tulip thorn]

Yeah darkest hour is not easy

[warped flint]

idk im not a fan

[tulip thorn]

But it is like my favorite ww2 historical mod

[warped flint]

I literally just built a minor army and my debt is just insane

[patent thistle]

i shall make ukraine a great bunker

[tulip thorn]

Yeah darkest hour is difficult

[grizzled yarrow]

Is the fire rises

[tulip thorn]

Is it your first time playing it?

[warped flint]

Well thats like 6 hours wasted

[warped flint]

yes and last

[patent thistle]

thats rt56

[tulip thorn]

Oh damn

[grizzled yarrow]

Ohhh

[still loom]

This is so true

[patent thistle]

if it was the fire rises i wouldnt build on the polish border

[tulip thorn]

I was about to say that uk is probably the most beginner friendly nation to play as in it

But alas darkest hour just has to have terrible terrain debuffs

[still loom]

Attacking a mountain with a heavy tank by any chance?

[tulip thorn]

Making lots rage

[grizzled yarrow]

I SHALL FORM THE ROMAN EMPIRE UNDER BENITO MUSSOLINI

[warped flint]

Nope

thats not a heavy tank also

[patent thistle]

lame, do it under the pope

[tulip thorn]

Tanks arent even good in darkest hour

[grizzled yarrow]

U can do that?

[tulip thorn]

Had to make spgs just to do anything

[still loom]

Hmm spgs huh

[patent thistle]

do you have by blood alone?

[tulip thorn]

Since its a lightly reworked old tank system

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah

[still loom]

I get that idea again

For instance, 9/1 but that arty is being replaced with spg having max soft attack

[tulip thorn]

Yeah not good lol

Thats just a space marine with no armor

[patent thistle]

i suck at explaining, could you do me the honor (pope path and sorry for the ping) @heavy vigil

[still loom]

Yesterday I tried motorized instead of tanks

Guess what? It's not worth it

[patent thistle]

yeah-

[still loom]

Basically me

[tulip thorn]

Yeah moterized is just really fast infantry

[patent thistle]

the clasical moment of afk in hoi4

[tulip thorn]

All the stats are the same

Look at the stats of moterized and infantry

[still loom]

I can't stop playing once I start

[tulip thorn]

They are pretty much the exact same, except the speed

[still loom]

There's a reason I call mechanized template a "Special Defense"

Sheer amount of defense

[patent thistle]

dang stalin has been buisy building up planes-

[still loom]

Anyways ima test sub spam using cheats

Wanna see if it'll sink royal navy

Or italian

[heavy vigil]

huh

[tulip thorn]

Like literally the same

Motorized is just more expensive infantry with speed

[dim hazel]

which ai does the normandy invasion the usa or uk?

[tulip thorn]

All

[patent thistle]

papal path for italy to the blue

[tulip thorn]

Literally everyone in the allies

[still loom]

Forget about motorized then. Mechanized has huge defense stats compared to infantry. You can hold a line against big attacks

[tulip thorn]

Mech is good and worth its cost

Moterized is shit

[heavy vigil]

uuuhh non aligned click balance of power go full right

[tulip thorn]

Calvary is better than motorized just because its cheaper and more worth its cost

[still loom]

Fuel btw

[patent thistle]

@grizzled yarrow basically go king to do that if i remembered correctly

if you want pope

[grizzled yarrow]

Hmmmmm

[tulip thorn]

Oh and you want to know something funny, calv also has pretty similar stats to both infantry and motorized

[patent thistle]

how the hell can a pre-dreadnought have over 20 knts of speed-

[tulip thorn]

While also being fast and not taking fuel

[still loom]

The fuel used on a 36w tank template is more worth than motorized if you're attacking. For holding a crucial point? Go mechanized. Worth the fuel

[patent thistle]

i did NOT upgrade the engine

[tulip thorn]

Motorized divisions have no purpose

[still loom]

Last thing before I go

Tell me a better unit than cavalry for suppressing resistance

Except armoured car

[tulip thorn]

Doesnt exist

Calv is just the best unit for occupation laws

Cheap and effective

If your feeling real fancy and have enough support equipment add military police

[still loom]

I always do that later

When I fill the template with horses

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-umamusume-uma-satano-diamond-dia-chan-gif-10048777788802976397

[fickle cove]

what are some websites you guys would recommend for designing focus trees?

[grizzled yarrow]

Horse? Yeah bro i use horses

[fickle cove]

i hope to make a mod someday (despite knowing ZERO about programming) and i sketched them, yes, but it's surprisingly hard to do bc i'm a perfectionist and want to make even my sketches perfect

[still loom]

Good luck

[tulip thorn]

I tried making a focus tree once, spent 2 days on it and got 3 focuses working lol

Its fun but time consuming

[drowsy laurel]

Is it a engine issue, or a skill issue?

[tulip thorn]

oh it was 100% a skill issue

[fickle cove]

lol thx

it's a total overhaul mod too

[tulip thorn]

Oh my

That for your first project

[drowsy laurel]

Right, because i heard that the engine that hoi uses is archaic

Might be hard to make new stuff in it

[fickle cove]

it's a mod which takes place in 2000, that's basically it (yes, i'm aware of the existence of millennium dawn and novum vexillum)

[tulip thorn]

The hoi4 engine is so easy to make new stuff in

[drowsy laurel]

Really? Damn

[tulip thorn]

I got the custom nation working in an hour and all of its leaders in another hour

I just wasnt fully understanding how to make a focus tree

[fickle cove]

i could aim lower and make a mod i've also been kinda planning, which is literally just the base game, but with ONE change: a new nation. in uzbekistan there's a state shaped suspiciously phallic, and i want to make a country out of it

[tulip thorn]

The tutorial I was watching didnt explain it very well

[grizzled yarrow]

Yo when paratrooping into france should i use like 2w paratrooper divisions

[tulip thorn]

Yeah its 100% better to start off small

[drowsy laurel]

Make this picture a focus icon

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

Thats fine

[fickle cove]

BRO WHAT 😭

[grizzled yarrow]

Alr

I remember paratrooping into the uk once just to not be able to get my troops on brittish soil cuz of naval superiority

[fickle cove]

but that said do you know any good websites just for designing focus trees

[craggy trail]

This is with Mass Assault Right

[tulip thorn]

no

I dont

I just watched a youtube tutorial for everything

[drowsy laurel]

Didn't superior firepower get massively nerfed, or did the Belgian man lie to me?

[grizzled yarrow]

Who even uses superior firepower

[tulip thorn]

Superior firepower doesnt need a nerf, its already bad lol

[drowsy laurel]

It's always worked for me. I guess I've been shooting myself in the foot the entire time then lmfao

[tulip thorn]

The only people using it are those who are new to the game

[tulip thorn]

Oh dont get me wrong its bad but will work

Atleast it gives stats unlike another doctrine (Mobile warfare)

[drowsy laurel]

I only go mobile warfare for germany larp

[tulip thorn]

I always go gbp

Its the best tank doctrine

[drowsy laurel]

I don't really like gbp because it devolves the gameplay into "wait for some time, then click the funny attack button and win"

[grizzled yarrow]

Gbp is always the go to

Mass assault is good for uhh chunky templates

[tulip thorn]

I guess that makes sense

Better than bitters explanation as to why he doesnt like mass mob

[desert pollen]

bro how is this mod so popular

[tulip thorn]

Because its good

Its cinema

Top 3 best mods on the workshop

[sudden thistle]

i played it once or twice and never saw the fun in it

[desert pollen]

it’s such a niche community that some how got such a big mod

[drowsy laurel]

What mod are we talking about

[tulip thorn]

We are just better like that

[grizzled yarrow]

Yo du yu know how i can also like integrate yugoslavia

[tulip thorn]

This focus

You get some decisions agaisnt them

You can take land and puppet them

[grizzled yarrow]

No like inregrate the Yugoslavian pupptet

[desert pollen]

does the mod just add mlp stuff and keep the rest of the game normal..?

[tulip thorn]

Building in them

[grizzled yarrow]

Ohhhh

[sudden thistle]

nope

all new

[tulip thorn]

No its a total overhaul mod

[drowsy laurel]

Is this a valid formable

[desert pollen]

yeah they literally like never accept that

[tulip thorn]

False

I get them to accept it a good 90% of the time

[desert pollen]

out of my entire time playing hoi4 (like 500 hours yeah i’m a noob yes i suck st the game) i’ve had them accept it once

[grizzled yarrow]

If they dont its free land either way

[tulip thorn]

I have them accept to be my puppet more than they give dalmatia to me

[tulip thorn]

Sounds like a rng issue

[desert pollen]

i also play weird, i just invade every unprotected country in 1936 and 37

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-child-gguh-baby-laugh-gif-6155286057470724104

[sudden thistle]

weird

[tulip thorn]

So what the people who like to rush the game do

You should play sheep mod ai fr fr

Play the ussr

[sudden thistle]

sheep is very fun

[tulip thorn]

And easy

[sudden thistle]

once u get used to it ja

[desert pollen]

sitting and buildings factories makes me lose my mind

[tulip thorn]

You would like sheep ai

You should play it

[vague abyss]

i wonder how soon after the dlc drops it will be updated

[tulip thorn]

Play as like poland or france or ussr

[grizzled yarrow]

Also 1 more thing whenever i cap ethiopia it never truly capitulates it just refuses to every single game despite cap it in 3 months or less

[vague abyss]

ngl USSR isn't that easy

german tanks break through

and they tend to encircle

so I had to switch from 21s to 18w sup arty

[desert pollen]

which is better rocket or spg

[grizzled yarrow]

The 600 divsions soviet wall waiting for german arrival

[vague abyss]

nah i just had to lower to 18W, that way I focused more on tank destroyers

[hot patrol]

I hope paradox eventually let AI able to micro frontlines

[vague abyss]

ngl TD's are basically a requirement

[tulip thorn]

Neither

[hot patrol]

Instead of battleplanning

[vague abyss]

just need to get used to using a breakthrough light tank recon, can't rely on radios in ur tanks in sheeps u miss too much soft and hard attack

[tulip thorn]

Medium tanks with howitzer 2

[vague abyss]

in the new DLC I hope u can mix up the doctorines well

like get the grand battleplan max planning and then tank buffs and mobile stuff

[sudden thistle]

nuh uh

[vague abyss]

yuh uh 🤓

[sudden thistle]

guns only soviets is possible

[tepid crown]

If Germany does tanks, sov can always just go mass mob battleplan build, but if Ger goes mountaineer battleplan you die anyways. Current soviets usually die no matter what

[vague abyss]

well yea with mass mob cw

whats the mass mob cw btw

[sudden thistle]

35.2

[vague abyss]

i don't do mass mobs

ofc

[tepid crown]

or 16w

[vague abyss]

no, looked at the stats 18W is more optimal

18W is considered infantry cheap norm if ur not doing 35W

[tepid crown]

16w performs better in every terrain and has better reinforcement

I dont have it on me but there are charts that go over all the widths

[vague abyss]

way more green on 18

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/reactor-rbwr-reactor-explodes-gif-8455581345930100726

the genius is overloading

[heavy vigil]

cut out the weighted part because its wrong

[tepid crown]

This is also a 2 year old chart

[dawn mango]

do you guys have a good mod

[heavy vigil]

i have a lot of bad mods

[dawn mango]

true

[vague abyss]

i play with 100 mods

if that helps

[heavy vigil]

wait

i have a good mod

[still loom]

@tulip thorn

Sub always engage works but

umm

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3245731266

peak

[still loom]

I am literally facing the whole world

[zinc light]

anyways, finished te german civil war on April 30th (about 50 days)

now I wanna do friendly democratic germany because why not

also, I'm having Ethiopia's exile government for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-questioning-talk-gif-16977665

[heavy vigil]

they can go to uk, sweden, germany, japan

[meager valley]

https://tenor.com/view/joystickjonjo-eric-andre-eric-andre-shoot-gif-18874564

[golden bramble]

geez sovs it aint that deep

[heavy vigil]

thats also usually the order the ai picks to exile to

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/i-took-that-personally-keegan-michael-key-saturday-night-live-personal-sensitive-gif-21648238

[zinc light]

even in non historical?

I thought they picked me first, rather than being rejected by the other ones

[heavy vigil]

in non historical they usually get denied by nations and move further into the list

[zinc light]

ah I see

[heavy vigil]

japan is funny

they could get taiwan and a battleship

i tested and it can never be a SHBB :(

[still loom]

I cooked

Ima post it on reddit

[toxic cypress]

2 days?

wow thats correct for me this time

[zinc light]

why does germany have 2 oddly specific MIOs

[dusky burrow]

How many subs do you have

[dusky burrow]

Armored Car Manufacturer exists for UK, France, and India too

Plus Soviets and Austria get MIOs that can be used on armored cars

But for Spain and the US it's a shame there's no Cierva and Sikorsky

[still loom]

48 exactly. I have some others on patrol/do not engage

Should have around 70

Not to mention, this is an old save

I opened this because I had 1944 sub

[dusky burrow]

Yeah this isn't sustainable I think

[sharp sierra]

YO HALF LIFE 3 JUST DROPPED

[tepid crown]

so did GTA6

[true solstice]

Hi guys, is The Red Sea even possible in current versions of HOI4?

[tepid crown]

?

[true solstice]

It’s pretty much impossible to make Italy white peace while also getting Eritrea from them

[true solstice]

What are you confused about brodude?

[tepid crown]

the red sea is already in game no?

[dusky burrow]

It's doable

I've done it before

Also took out Somalia too

[vague abyss]

deciding what country to play

hmmm

[tepid crown]

Liberia

[vague abyss]

might do a silly japan plan democratic

but i did that already a week ago

[vague abyss]

no

[tepid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[still loom]

@dusky burrow

This is so much fun

[vague abyss]

what country

[still loom]

Turkey

[vague abyss]

good idea

turkey navy

i did a turkey carrier navy before

ottomon turk?

[still loom]

I failed to form it this campaign

[vague abyss]

rip

[dusky burrow]

Fair, if they continue to do that yep

[vague abyss]

not sure what to do, but i would love to do a turkey navy build tbh

[dusky burrow]

Aren't you communist turkey though

[still loom]

yes

[vague abyss]

last time I did it I just annexed greece took their fleet and did a carrier

[zinc light]

Rule #1 of non-historical: dont look at Spain

[still loom]

ah taking fleet in peace deal

I don't have dlc for that

[vague abyss]

not a fan of it tbh

[true solstice]

I’m talking about the achievement

[true solstice]

Any chance you could slide me your method?

[true solstice]

Okay how

I have to know how

[still loom]

Now this submarine fleet will be deadly even further

[vague abyss]

whats ur turkish fleet

can i see

[still loom]

I spam subs only

and naval bombers

[vague abyss]

i found a nice cheat way for small navy countries, even works with italy/germany, u can merge ur sub fleet to ur main fleet and u get a lot of torpedo buffs, still figuring out if its best to make ur admiral a low level one or a high level one though

[dusky burrow]

I basically followed this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zwrmwsWl78
tl;dr defend three tiles in the south and then send most of your army north, try not to lose Gondor, Gaba, and Moyale before mid-May (and then Addis Abeba and Harar after that) to increase escalation, and then just replenish your army with guns

Casey will also tell you to delete the mountaineers because those terrain bonuses don't work on defense

[vague abyss]

this is usually my destroyer i use when building a fleet from scratch, build ten of these, 5 with torpedo only and 5 with torpedo and anti sub

[heavy vigil]

i talked to him before he made the vid its preference

[true solstice]

Oh okay thanks

[heavy vigil]

orgwall seemed to be more reliable

but your pushing/killing power is a bit lower

[true solstice]

Thanks guys :)

[dusky burrow]

Oh I see

[vague abyss]

wonder what best navy turkey path is hmmm

[heavy vigil]

you can also last stand more with irregulars because 50% more hp than mountaineers

but you have to check battle and have enough cp

[true solstice]

Btw I tried doing it as Italy or France or Britain by going communist, conquering Ethiopia, releasing them as a puppet, reannexing them, and then releasing and playing as, and conquering the land I need

But it’s just too hard

I’ll just do it as Ethiopia

Might as well

Two more questions

Do I go Soviet Aid path or not

[still loom]

screens are a problem but it's fine

[heavy vigil]

its ehhh

[still loom]

Wish I had more subs

[true solstice]

And how do I avoid a civil war using the balance of power mechanic

[heavy vigil]

not compatible for all archievements

[vague abyss]

is 25 still mountain meta or 27

[dusky burrow]

Oh I don't know about the communist path

[heavy vigil]

its arguably easier but youre definitely weaker at the start

[dusky burrow]

32

[vague abyss]

nah cheaper

[dusky burrow]

Still 32

[vague abyss]

cant get it but nah too expensive

[dusky burrow]

Don't use line artillery

32-width mountaineers only

[vague abyss]

line arty is good

[tepid crown]

💀

[vague abyss]

how many hours u got btw...

[coarse willow]

how do i even push

[tepid crown]

doesnt matter really, its not indication of skill

[coarse willow]

france is just death stacking and i still need to worry about russia and japan

[vague abyss]

line arty is still good stats with the mountaineer buffs too

now on rangers

[tepid crown]

its better stat per width to just do pure infantry

[dusky burrow]

Yeah pure infantry tends to be better

[astral turret]

Hold france front and focus on russia front

In my opinion best option to do

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[vague abyss]

what we thinking best political path for navy turkey

[quiet vessel]

the one with the boats

[dusky burrow]

Seriously though guys

[vague abyss]

there is none lmao

turkey doesn't know what navy is

might go ottomon tbf

[tepid crown]

true

[vague abyss]

isn't their some new formable after GOE

or somet

[pastel urchin]

When will ussr capitulate

[dusky burrow]

I don't think it matters in Turkey's case

Just win

[vague abyss]

how do u go ottmon again u gotta do somet with kemals life or something

[pastel urchin]

Like guys i am easily beating ussr but bro they just wont capitulate pls help

[tepid crown]

far left side i think

[vague abyss]

yeah

but the events i mean

[tepid crown]

just keep going

[tepid crown]

no clue, I cant stand playing Turkey anymore

[quiet vessel]

u know thered a secret turkey path

called ottobaby

[pastel urchin]

Yeah but allies are like poking my ass

[quiet vessel]

if u form the ottoman and ottowoman empire

they eventually form ottobaby

[dusky burrow]

This is the damage * org chart for mountaineers in 1939, the purple line on the right is pure mountaineers

also note artillery has terrain debuffs

[pastel urchin]

Are you ottophile?

[dusky burrow]

artillery doesn't really do anything

[quiet vessel]

i love the ottokids

😭😭

[tepid crown]

what do each colors mean again

[bright sinew]

GOD researching the land cruizer be like:

"We have discovered a horrible deficiency in the turret mechanism during preliminary trials: The Grape Jelly is making for a poor industrial lubricant. We can either keep using the jelly, or replace it with Applebutter.

[Replace the Jelly] : -60% Project Progress
[Keep using Jelly]: -69% to Land Cruiser Reliability

"We have discovered the Applebutter is now causing the engine to jam."
[Redesign the engine] -30000% progress
[Keep using applebutter] -30000000% reliability

[vague abyss]

bro iran carrying the middle east rn

dawg all 3 are doing the joint tree

bet

shame they didn't bring joint tree to japan

[dusky burrow]

i mean you should try to do expand our influence tbh

[vague abyss]

anyone else feel like japan overture is like avatar

[heavy vigil]

one of the political paths has shi[p buffs iirc

[still loom]

Besides subs, I love naval bombers

[heavy vigil]

the mediterranean alliance

[vague abyss]

already going otto

what do u do about kemals death again

let him live or die

i swear u get a big debuff

if u dont

[zinc light]

well, the soviets just exploded
business as usual

I just really dont want em to go democratic

this might be a super boring game lmao

[dusky burrow]

true

I did democratic Turan once btw

Twice actually

[craggy trail]

It's painful, but I'll get my lategame doctrines soon

[vague abyss]

i bet they'll change focuses like these to build navy headquarters ngl

[heavy vigil]

no

turkey must remain unchanged

perfect focus tree

[vague abyss]

im talking about all countries

[quiet vessel]

you have been sentenced to only 70 day focuses for a year

[tepid crown]

Please no, destroy the entire thing and build again

[vague abyss]

NOOO

[heavy vigil]

i just remembered

i made a savegame on this game version where theres no factories in the world

its also misspelled

[vague abyss]

so if im going ottomon do i let him live or die

[heavy vigil]

doesnt matter

he will die eventually anyway

[vague abyss]

pretty sure it does

u get some debuff

[heavy vigil]

no

[tepid crown]

You just lose him as leader

[tulip thorn]

Epic

[dusky burrow]

For Turkey you should try to do your focuses and perhaps even complete your civil war before he dies, not because of debuffs, but because you need to get ahead of developments elsewhere

Like you need to take care of Greece, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia before Germany and Italy gets into the region

[craggy trail]

Essentially like Old World Blues, another total overhaul mod set in the Fallout Universe, Equestria at War is pretty much built on the foundations of the original show, but changed to fit a more darker narrative

[hollow thicket]

first guy to answer tells me which country i should do a world conquest as

[vague abyss]

the pp buffs are insane

LMAO

i love the new ai syria

[heavy vigil]

yeah you should get 2 pp daily

youll need it

[heavy vigil]

pp greed as much as possible with advisors

[vague abyss]

finally trains

mmmm

love the new AI countries here

free eco

anyways time to civilwar

who do u let win again

in the elections

[tepid crown]

USAF

[vague abyss]

whoever did the model

https://tenor.com/view/miy-3d-modelling-sanae-blender-modelling-gif-5248426922200217011

shade smooth

smh

[dusky burrow]

noooooooo

[restive estuary]

what mod/game should i play before the new dlc

NOT DH

[vague abyss]

turke

[tepid crown]

BI

[hollow thicket]

guys which country should i do wc as

[restive estuary]

give me a few if you can

even total overhaul mods are fine

[tepid crown]

BI, owb, divided states, kaiserredux

[craggy trail]

We're gonna overrun so many of them @tulip thorn

[restive estuary]

OWB, TFR, TNO, etc,

[restive estuary]

ok

[dusky burrow]

oof

[quiet vessel]

who looked at their newborn son and decided to call him daniel😭🙏

[balmy bridge]

anyone know why I didnt get graveyard of empires achievement, ignore me being Khalistan I popped em out after conquering everything as India

[dusky burrow]

I think you need Aden or something

This has been an issue for a while though

[bronze mango]

Isn't the requirement controlling the cores of the countries

[balmy bridge]

this is a screenshot late in the game I did own Aden before hand

[bronze mango]

Anyways did you capitulate all of them

Yourself

[dusky burrow]

You should also not give up Aden like ever tbh

Aden's very valuable

[bronze mango]

It's a requirement for the achievement

[heavy vigil]

in mp its good to give to uk with factories

[mellow parrot]

Is that Ma Zhanshan on the top left? I know for a time he technically sided with the Japanese in Manchuria, but didn't he eventually defect and conduct guerrilla operations?

[dusky burrow]

Also countries like Iraq or Iran might have cores elsewhere

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[bronze mango]

He did

[dusky burrow]

That

If you're partnered with a UK give to UK

But as a singleplayer India

[mellow parrot]

Interesting.

[heavy vigil]

maybe he started as decolonized world?

[sudden thistle]

how

[zinc light]

excuse me???

[sudden thistle]

more focuses for ports air bases and etc

but 1 civ 🤑

[heavy vigil]

actually yes he started as decolonized world

otherwise kuwait would be the uk color

[zinc light]

there is a hidden focus tree for the SPECIFIC CASE that france puppets italy???

[heavy vigil]

its like 4

[balmy bridge]

I double checked and I did have all nations cores at one point in the game one island I never had was the Maldives but its not listed as a core of India correct>

[sudden thistle]

close enough

[vague abyss]

civilwars coming

[craggy trail]

Large squadron sizes as well, so they don't just cone in one or two planes

[bronze mango]

No it's just the Italian civil war tree that appears whenever there is a civil war caused by the balance of power

[dusky burrow]

huh

[zinc light]

oh really?

[bronze mango]

Yes

[zinc light]

I thought it was exclusive to this because it specifically said "Guillaume D'Italia"

[quiet vessel]

would you rather grow a tree

or tree a grow

[zinc light]

hm question good

[quiet vessel]

hmm

[zinc light]

hmmmm

[quiet vessel]

would you rather crack your finger

[restive estuary]

what mod is that

[still loom]

naval bomber + sub = profit

[quiet vessel]

or

oh

[quiet vessel]

wheres the (im japan)

[bronze mango]

Would you rather have unlimited bacon but no more video games or games, unlimited games, but no more games?

[heavy vigil]

just make a 100 carrier fleet

[still loom]

Can't do carrier alone. It'll just die without screens or battleline

[heavy vigil]

you kind of can

[zinc light]

Mhhh, large celery

[heavy vigil]

carriers shoot first in battle and can get 1 kill each in that time

so if you nuke the enemy fleet first strike the other ships wont engage

but turkey starts with a navy

[vague abyss]

whats the instant refit command for ships agian

[still loom]

How about stacking many carriers? There is a debuff for that I guess. For more than 5

[heavy vigil]

yes

which is fine when youre at like 25+

[patent thistle]

this navy is so stupid but hey it will have to only deal with russia so- 🤣 (Ukraine basically rebuilding former imperial russian ships and refitting them-)

[heavy vigil]

just need 1 fighter and 1 cas wing per carrier

[still loom]

stacking that much with full naval bombers

hmm

That's an idea

[heavy vigil]

not just navs

[vague abyss]

whats the instant refit command for ships agian

[still loom]

why not

are they for protecting nav bomvers?

[heavy vigil]

cuz then they wont fly at all

because of the debuff

[still loom]

There's a debuff for not having fighters?

[patent thistle]

if i remembered correctly there is none specific for refits? @heavy vigil help me out here

[heavy vigil]

theres a debuff per wing

essentially the debuff goes to fighter and cas wing

[vague abyss]

theres one but u gotta use a different one

its like ic

or it

[heavy vigil]

which dont fly in battle anyway

[heavy vigil]

thats construction yes

[still loom]

Say there are 400 spots on a carrier

how many nav bombers

[heavy vigil]

theres nothing for refits

[heavy vigil]

380 navs 10 cas 10 fighters

not wings

just 1 of each wing

doesnt matter how many other slots

[patent thistle]

you actually build carrier fighters?

[still loom]

define wings, I am getting confused

[tepid crown]

Instantconstruction builds your ships in a day, but be aware, it also does it for the ai. So you’ll see 1000+ ships from ai as well

[patent thistle]

1 carrier wing = 10 planes

[still loom]

O

[vague abyss]

yea

[still loom]

Ooo right

I remember something with 10 in carriers

I built carriers like 10 months ago

There were 10 by 10 slots

so what's the debuff here again? Exactly

[heavy vigil]

its like 80%

[patent thistle]

i only know one debuff which is the carrier stacking debuff which will trigger after over 4 carriers (or 5 dont remember correctly)

[heavy vigil]

theres a calculator for it

i dont have it on hand rn

[still loom]

for what

Like, what causes that debuff

[patent thistle]

sortie effiency

[still loom]

I may need to read the wiki again

[heavy vigil]

there

[still loom]

Oh thanks

[patent thistle]

.

[still loom]

What's support carrier?

[heavy vigil]

carrier but small

CVEs

convert hull

[patent thistle]

i remember someone on reddit trying to prove that pre-dreadnoughts are worth to make only to disprove himself by using CLs 😂

[tepid crown]

based

[patent thistle]

this is the screenshot he used to show it-

[heavy vigil]

????

whats that

subs in main fleet

[restive estuary]

yo give me a good graphics mod

or something idk

[patent thistle]

not my screenshot

[heavy vigil]

i use this

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2633786941

[patent thistle]

also the AI does something stupid like that most of the time

had italy once rush in 14 battleships with like 5 destroyers and 1 light cruiser as escort

in my torp destroyer secondary fleet

[restive estuary]

hm, alright

[patent thistle]

wut?
wut?

[heavy vigil]

no modern politicians please.

[still loom]

Do you think infantry + cas is a bad idea?

[vague abyss]

no

but u need fighters

[patent thistle]

no cas is always king

[copper sluice]

?

[still loom]

say I already have air superiority

[patent thistle]

refitting those with radar and fire control (the pre-dreadnoughts really arent worth refitting with those)

[vague abyss]

then yea

[copper sluice]

riiight

[brittle wedge]

When designing cas you should always use the design firm that gives more agility instead of ground attack

[vague abyss]

heard that one before

[brittle wedge]

Its more important that your planes can cur through enemy AA fire

Even the AI build flak guns

[patent thistle]

dont have the designer so not my problem

[brittle wedge]

Oh ur playing vahnilla? That sucks

[sharp sierra]

cas design is for noobs

[brittle wedge]

The game is basically poop before No Step Back expansion

[patent thistle]

nah i am playing rt56 i meant i dont have the by blood alone DLC for the air designer

[brittle wedge]

Ah ok

But u still have the logistics system?

I member when the base game game came out years ago, it was rly bad

[patent thistle]

thats basically why i if i do single player play with mods and only do basegame when my buddy with all dlcs (minus graveyard of DLCs) hosts multiplayer

[patent thistle]

thats even there without the DLCs i am pretty sure

[copper sluice]

does this not refresh when I am at war?

[patent thistle]

ukraine being a bunker:

(i was able to seize Rostov during the soviet civilwar)

its just so i am ready for any situation when it accurs

[copper sluice]

is there a way to invade britain that doesnt suck ass?

[dusky burrow]

Is this in 1945 or something

[patent thistle]

no it was like mid 1938 😭

[dusky burrow]

non-historical?

[patent thistle]

the easiest way is paradrops,

[patent thistle]

yes

may i question my live choices of asking for greek lienceses just so i chould pull that joke-

[heavy vigil]

hmm

SFP applies to tank/equipment designs

yurious

[patent thistle]

SFP? Sorry i am not native english-

[heavy vigil]

Doutrina poder de fogo superior

doesnt matter in like 2 days im just thinking

[patent thistle]

???

[dusky burrow]

which joke

[patent thistle]

former imperial russian pre-dreadnoughts

[heavy vigil]

the doctrine?

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

yeah just license something better

[patent thistle]

i only did it for the joke, i dont license at all

[patent thistle]

i am not spanish which of the 3 is it?

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[dusky burrow]

superior firepower

the second doctrine

[patent thistle]

oh okay

[heavy vigil]

liv, yugo starts on SFP should i use it

[dusky burrow]

You can try

doubt it's any good tbh

[heavy vigil]

its like genuinely my least used doctrine maybe i should do a game with it yk

at least i have a tank division and airforce

[copper sluice]

is this too big

[dusky burrow]

mass mob?

[heavy vigil]

for what purpose

[copper sluice]

idk im just doing stuff

but I dont want to add more to this list so I figured I could just make each division bigger

does turkey count as a european nation

[patent thistle]

germany is so desperate for rubber lol

[still dune]

maybe

I would count russia as one

even though most of its land is in asia

[patent thistle]

i would count both turkey and russia transcontinental

[still dune]

Turkey and russia are Eurasian nations

[vague abyss]

all cores btw

[patent thistle]

thats basically what i meant

[vague abyss]

me go bed now

[still dune]

Eurasia is a better term than europe or asia

[dusky burrow]

Ottomans have cores in Europe you know

[still dune]

although europe and asia are good as subcontinents

[patent thistle]

change my mind: europe and asia are just one continent

[vague abyss]

yea

[dusky burrow]

vm

it's quite a lot (of coures turkey is core)

[still dune]

Asia was anything east of greece, europe was anything north or west of greece and africa was anything south of greece

[brittle wedge]

I like that except for the supply company

Fuel trucks should be reserved for armor divisions

Attaching them to your entire infantry is a waste of money

[brittle wedge]

Also could use more artillery cannons

[patent thistle]

"not sea worthy yet" f***er we are litterally just switching out radar and fire control 💀

(just wanted to send it)

[still dune]

right

time to send cursed/odd maps I've made

[brittle wedge]

I hate things like this that break immersion

[brittle wedge]

Most immersion breaking bugs are in naval combat tho

Another reason to only play germany or russia haha

[patent thistle]

ye like how does this make sense in any way? its litterally just adding radar and fire control-

[copper sluice]

is naval aa even worth it I just do it because its historically reasonable

[tepid crown]

on capitals yes

[patent thistle]

i personally prefer dual purpose secondaries

its just personal preference

[patent thistle]

execution?

[brittle wedge]

Theres also navy doctrines that cause all your ships to have to repair.

Navy be like

[heavy vigil]

imagine these are the best planes you can make for CAS which one would you use @dusky burrow

[brittle wedge]

Garbage design

[tepid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[heavy vigil]

ig you could do 4x engine and have an AT gun on it

[brittle wedge]

All those planes would get shot down ez

[heavy vigil]

on the medium frame

[brittle wedge]

Target practice for AA guns

[heavy vigil]

you try making a good plane with day 1 yugo tech

and medium frame from the uh

license thingy

iirc british wasnt better

but maybe it had e2 and im dumb

nvn british have e2

i could restart...

[brittle wedge]

Why make expensive slow easy to kill bombers?

[heavy vigil]

i want air

[dusky burrow]

Just for cas the first one is better, the second one is more flexible if you want to strat bomb too

[heavy vigil]

wait im dumb ill reload

[dusky burrow]

BTW Casey why use AT gun over bombs?

[heavy vigil]

i can make it better hold up

[heavy vigil]

look at day 1 yugo tech

[copper sluice]

well yea thats what I do since its also historically accurate but I always pick aa buff when researching special ships

[heavy vigil]

i messed up tho

[brittle wedge]

Why even waste money on a small yugo airforce that gets destroyed ez?

[heavy vigil]

cuz you can get e2 from uk/usa

on medium

[heavy vigil]

i dont listen to haters

[brittle wedge]

Nooo, you guys gotta lock in

If youre not engaging in realistic strategy why even play hoi?

[warped flint]

Is this garrison template okay for early game

before I get like mp support company and the last row unlocked

[heavy vigil]

ok maybe this is the best you can do with spawn in techs

its bleak

[still dune]

"HOI4 but I can only use spawned in stuff" - (Equipment, units, tech etc)

[brittle wedge]

Waste of money, too many men for a garisson behind lines

[heavy vigil]

which one for fighter

[warped flint]

I mean I cant realy let the people rebel... even if its expensive

[brittle wedge]

Oh youre talking about supression units

Try to save enough moneh for armored car!

Partisons will actually drain a ton of manpower

Armor cars will save you alot of guys

[dusky burrow]

I think the heavy aircraft is better here

50 ic for 60 attack versus 23 ic for 25 attack

[patent thistle]

personal prefence is light fighters unless you are going after bombers

[patent thistle]

you dont need massive attack unless you are specifically going after bombers

[still loom]

I didn't know that

max amount of planes according to width

This prevents cas spam

damn

[heavy vigil]

yugo doesnt start with CAS modules btw

but they do get AT 1

and basic airframe but engine 1 ☠️

i have not looked at the naval techs yet

no naval invasion tech :(

[patent thistle]

welcome with the yugoslavia pain

[heavy vigil]

who designed this nation

its like

ok

your core pop is pretty good

but your army and mils dont exist

[patent thistle]

i could really annoy germany now by joining the allies

[heavy vigil]

your tech doesnt rlly exist

what does it dooo

[patent thistle]

i always suggest going the devolution path

[heavy vigil]

no im doing communism

because manpower

my eco is good

[patent thistle]

oof-

[patent thistle]

should i tho?

i have in case the soviets come some fall back lines and a minor army on the border

hold my trench warfare

[copper sluice]

how do I use the multi charge large caliber thing

[patent thistle]

f*** it i am making a save and look how it goes

[drifting storm]

f

[warped flint]

when does this guy leave

[still loom]

nah I did not like cas

[warped flint]

nvm

[brittle wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[still loom]

support AA is too powerful

assuming that enemy has it, enemy can survive kinda

and also it's limited by width

damn I was thinking about spamming thousands of cas

[patent thistle]

YEAH, dont think germany was ready for a second front-

[copper sluice]

soo when will the paratroopers launch?

[patent thistle]

do you have air supremacy?

[copper sluice]

yes

[patent thistle]

can we all agree, germany suffers?

[copper sluice]

it doesnt say anything is wrong when I hold the arrow

[still loom]

437 damage prevented

damn

[patent thistle]

then they will launch instantly if you have transports

[copper sluice]

is the preparation progress bar just bugged?

[patent thistle]

they dont have prep time

you usally can launch them instandly

yes

[copper sluice]

ah ok I need more transports

[patent thistle]

(early US intervention into the allies)

[copper sluice]

wtf usa is conquering britain already

[patent thistle]

yeah, germany suffers

i am doing this with just basic infantry btw

[copper sluice]

which provinces have the most steel

in ussr also

[patent thistle]

orel

with segnificant steel deposits in stalingrad and moscow elsewell

moral of the story, dont piss of ukraine by cancling trade

[copper sluice]

turkey is apparently not european which is dumb since I need them to restore rome

bro is the goat wtf

[dusky burrow]

this area is one of the hardest hit in wwi and was wrecked by continuous political and economic strife in the 20s and 30s

[carmine matrix]

do it

[heavy vigil]

oh i know

but your civs are fine

[patent thistle]

already did and germany is about to die while italy hasnt even joined the war yet

as i was saying

and i got the majority of the points

[warped flint]

I am just

sick of the ai

made me lose like my entire army in the peace conference

there surrounded