hoi4-general

[pearl jackal]

help this never happens what do i do

screw it imma fight them

[still loom]

[slow nova]

Hirohito ahh moment

[still loom]

I honestly liked the old one

[slow nova]

@still loom Do you want to play hoi4 rn?

[still loom]

Also, there's a mod which makes him like...this

[slow nova]

ahhahaha

[still loom]

Nah, sleeping soon

[slow nova]

ah ok

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-gif-21621168

[valid prairie]

HOW TO ANNEX FRANCE AS CARLIST SPAIN

[muted pecan]

commie china keeps joining the soviet sphere in 1936? why is that? i dont think thats normal

and a bunch of silly ass nations are joining large factions? like why is peru joining the axis before italy in early 1937

[tulip thorn]

Its normal if world tension is really high

[pearl jackal]

guys how do i sealion i can literally never get naval supremacy

[tulip thorn]

You could paradrop, use naval bombers, make a navy or just wait for the british ai to screw up and let you gain supremacy for a split second

[pearl jackal]

hmm ok the last one seems like the easiest, lol

[muted pecan]

i always spam naval bombers at the start of the game. by 1940 youll have enough to wipe their navy off the map. the invasion becomes trivial after that

[pearl jackal]

it's 1937

[muted pecan]

im talking about the start of the game. you already started so its over

[pearl jackal]

ah k

well i mean i'm only one year in

[hot patrol]

Does look better

Gang do y'all choose Austria or Hungary to do Austria-Hungary

[pearl jackal]

czechoslovakia

[tulip thorn]

Austria has the better focus tree

And lets you form it as fascist austria

Which also gets cores on all of germany

[dusky burrow]

yeah that definitely can happen

If you're Germany

[pearl jackal]

Is that sarcastic?

Competent Italy in the middle east and Africa is crazy though (but they fumbled Ethiopia somehow)

[dusky burrow]

I mean it could happen if you're Italy too

[dusky burrow]

Well

those might be correlated

[pearl jackal]

Hmm possibly

[dusky burrow]

Limited committment in Ethiopia means more ability to commit in Libya

also losing in Ethiopia does weird things to the Italian AI apparently

Like no balance of power

[pearl jackal]

And they also had to "commit" to the alpine front (basically they fumbled and just waited for me to capitulate them)

[pearl jackal]

Hmm that's not good

[pearl jackal]

Btw if ur wondering how I got to this position in Feb 1937 it's because they didn't let me remilitarise the Rhineland

France then soon learned that I wasn't asking for permission, I was announcing that I WILL BE remilitarise the Rhineland :)

[dusky burrow]

and also you breached maginot doing so

[pearl jackal]

Kind of, the French ai stupidly didn't fill it in sometimes and I just slowly advanced, after I got the maginot I quickly capitulated them (lots of land went to communist france) and then invaded communist france

I had to reconquer the communist lands cuz they went back to free france but at least I got to establish vichy

[silk gust]

German ai did this

And I looked away for one second

[warped crown]

Death or Dishonor or Cake 😎

at one point, france was about to kill me with Yugoslavia, but Germany saved my life at the last minute by killing france and capitulating the entire faction.

[terse crater]

Anyone tried the new MOD?

[patent thistle]

dont think franco will survive this time

[patent thistle]

also the ships are mostly refit making even the marat class usable

[misty fossil]

certified inc-

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1430529187395145918/attachment.gif

[patent thistle]

i always prefer secondaries over anti air

also no i am not making them on mass, i did that trick in which you name the class exactly to what the focus would give you so you dont get the crap ai design

[heavy vigil]

its optional to play with anyway

[patent thistle]

there goes the german flotila

very kindly telling the italians to piss off

[distant herald]

i have never played hoi4 in my entire life

[uncut carbon]

keep it that way

while you can

[distant herald]

is there anyone who plays hoi4 that actually likes hoi4

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[copper sluice]

why does austria never want to be in the EU

[meager valley]

Yes

[static river]

yavuz is carrying this entire navy

without him your navy is nothing

even swiss navy can blow it up apart

[tepid crown]

No

[trim pike]

Yes

[copper sluice]

which one is the best

[faint carbon]

did paradox recently buffed the other side in te german civil war?
because it seems harder than usual

[rocky sedge]

idk what happened to turkiye

[dreamy violet]

The one that costs u more cuz it's better in the long run if I remember correctly

ANYWAYYYYY

Guys

Fabulous Beasts S5 is coming out soon

Will Bili Bili and Paradox do a collab?

And add Fabulous Beasts?

Since the China DLC is coming out soon

[slim nexus]

How do i do the senor hitler achievement

i just cant become facist quick enough before the civil war ends

they run through that rapido

[copper sluice]

they dont cost anything its just a choice on which concern I have

[azure tangle]

When will hoi4 fix the border gore problem

I don’t want Iran to control Moldova it makes no sense

[desert night]

They slightly changed it with Gottedamerung, Mackensen no longer has a +20% attack and defense bonus on core territory, instead it’s just 5%

[heavy vigil]

go to game settings

scroll down

[solemn bay]

It very much makes sense

[heavy vigil]

go to peace conferences

click the buttons that redistrivute war score to faction leader + player

turn them on (ironman compatible)

[azure tangle]

Didn’t know you could do that

[heavy vigil]

now theres a lot less border gore

[azure tangle]

Thank you twin

[heavy vigil]

(not entirely but still)

[azure tangle]

As long as I never have to see Turkish Finland again I’ll be fine

[solemn bay]

What if we want more border gore instead

[heavy vigil]

it can still happen if they have high warscore

[heavy vigil]

specifically turn it off

[solemn bay]

Bet

My run is about to get very interesting

[copper sluice]

ah scheiße

[heavy vigil]

i mean

it doesnt do that much

it just means more countries will retain their small amount of warscore

but ive seen a faction leader go from 21% war score to 29%

which is definitely a difference

and it "centralizes" warscore

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[copper sluice]

ah yea

clearly I should have seen this coming

[quiet yacht]

If I have to buy all relevant dlcs, which dlcs can i avoid?

[brittle cypress]

Any that just add focus trees like graveyard of empires and the South American one

Most important is no step back

imo

[copper sluice]

which one is that

[compact wharf]

the soviet one

[brittle cypress]

which one is what

^

Adds tank designer too and Baltic focus trees and Poland alt hist

And some supply stuff

[compact wharf]

i actually cannot see myself playing this game without the tank designer

[brittle cypress]

And railway guns

[brittle cypress]

It makes tanks so much better

(And cooler)

[compact wharf]

yea no step back is the one id recommend too lol

[meager valley]

And reworks the Soviets lol

The biggest part about it

[brittle cypress]

Historical tree is free

[compact wharf]

yeah paranoia meter

hit or miss

[meager valley]

Ngl I’m bummed this DLC’s OST had like no marches

[astral turret]

i dont understand there was no peace treaty and germany took all of turkey when i was at war with em also???

[meager valley]

Like NSB had many marches and red army orchestra songs. 😢

This one? None

[brittle cypress]

Are you still at war with a faction that turkey was part of

[meager valley]

HOI4 versions of marches for Japan/China would’ve gone so hard

[astral turret]

turkey and spain left it

[brittle cypress]

Huh

[subtle elm]

bro what

clausewitz moment

[jaunty delta]

lowkey funny it takes them an entire year to add a new focus tree to Japan, USA, etc.

something a modders could do in a month

[astral turret]

turkey was at 99% capitulation and spain french were already gone turkey was last one standing

noone else got anything only germany took all land

[meager valley]

It’s wild no one cares about the OST 😂

[subtle elm]

fr

hoi4 ost's have fallen off

[compact wharf]

hey warriors heart march is a vibe

[meager valley]

I think they played it a bit safe this time by having no marches

[meager valley]

That’s the only one that stood out to me but legit sounded like HOI3 soundtrack

https://youtu.be/tRIIC5NihBY?si=knRicWLDNwjc54cP

Yet bangers like these existed

That could’ve just been instrumental

They have Die Wacht am Rhein, Erika, Drum Bun, March of the Defenders, Katyusha, My, Pierwsza Brygada

Idk why they couldn’t have Chinese/Japanese ones

[compact wharf]

yeaa

not like its a massive issue

im sure music mods already exist for them

[meager valley]

If you’re gonna have Red Army or German Empire songs, I think Japanese and Chinese ones are fine lol

[meager valley]

Probably

But HOI4 ones tend to be really unique and good quality

It’s actually such a bummer they did none

Like the soundtrack they did is good as a soundtrack. But so safe and quite honestly a little boring

I like it, don’t get me wrong. But could’ve been one of the best 😭

None on this roster even come close to Battle of Wuhan or War of Resistance apart from Warriors Heart March

[jaunty delta]

bella ciao is the best ost the game has ever seen

[meager valley]

The one that hijacks your music whenever Italy goes into a civil war 😭

[opal nymph]

They really have nothing? Dang

[valid solar]

What is the command to give points to a country in a peace confrance

[copper sluice]

how do I win vs germany as austria lol

[valid solar]

Fort

Ig

[opal nymph]

I assume you have DLC?

Did you go historical or alt history?

[crude dragon]

you can check out machiavellianstrategist's guides in youtube, he has guides for fascist and monarchist austria

[crystal marsh]

New soundtracks are PEAK bro

[wicked haven]

steal belgian congo as germany, puppet, belgium declares war on it and me

[faint carbon]

IK, i mean more recently

[desert night]

Oh

0 clue lmao

[faint carbon]

cuz i already played the opposition after slopperdamerung

[heavy vigil]

no

you are equally buffed since GDR

[meager valley]

There’s one

[heavy vigil]

so its actually just a 1v1 of player vs ai

but player has more factories

[brittle cypress]

If the last time you played was pre Gotterdammerung then they used to have a like -20% modified on attack stuff

So technically yeah

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[brittle cypress]

Hello you

[cedar lance]

wassup Marcus

[brittle cypress]

What’s up markomrm

[cedar lance]

not much hbu

[brittle cypress]

nothing much

[cedar lance]

alr nice

we have 3 days left till the new DLC expansion releases

im hyped and excited

[valid solar]

Yep

[cedar lance]

btw

i hope the new Special projects are GOOD

[hidden gull]

Graphite or heavy weater nuclear reactor? Playing as benelux federation in a 'treading the narrow path' achievement run

[edgy canopy]

does anyone want to play hoi4 we are waiting in looking for MP 1

[tepid crown]

Probably won’t be. There’s not many that are even worth while rn

[topaz dove]

Hey guys

I'm new

[brittle cypress]

hi new

i'm marcus

[dry creek]

Is this meta?

[cedar lance]

wdym

[topaz dove]

my Malaya industry can't afford that 🙁

[crude dragon]

only japan and usa are the major nations without releasable nations (france has brittany, occitania. italy has venice, papal states, etc.)

and why USA has none

[topaz dove]

Btw no AA support?

It gives some piercing

[bright arrow]

I would have put those things as companies

[wicked haven]

is Kaiserin Victoria III still possible?

Maybe I softlocked her out

[meager valley]

Yes

But don’t need her to form HRE anymore

Basically any Kaiser can do it

[wicked haven]

True

[meager valley]

Kinda more worth to just go United Europe route than HRE tho

[wicked haven]

how do you get the decision to restore titles now?

[calm robin]

is it even worth it to switch chassis on tanks

[dry creek]

no

[meager valley]

Ensure Hindenburg survives, ensure Kaiser Wilhelm II does not return by disbanding army. Then you do alliance with the shade

And when you send a liaison she becomes leadsr

[topaz dove]

Tbh, I never use Advance light tank chassis.

I only use improved one

[meager valley]

Basically the same, focuses just rearranged

[wicked haven]

I did everything up to that, the new version of alliance in the shade

didn't give me the option

[meager valley]

Did you do the decisions too?

[wicked haven]

ye

[tepid crown]

You never need past improved anyways for light tanks

[wicked haven]

all up to and incl female heirs

[meager valley]

Then it should’ve worked unless Hindenburg died

[brittle cypress]

yes good job you've found the meta template

[wicked haven]

I did the air safety to avoid that and got the pop up saying it was fine

idk

I'll retry

[brittle cypress]

a 173 soft attack tank template

[meager valley]

Weird should work

[tepid crown]

But no, usually basic chassis would be all you need

[meager valley]

Lemme check really quick and see if I can do it

[wicked haven]

at least I know it's the correct focus still

[meager valley]

I’ll just use console

[topaz dove]

Is this ok for minor nations?

[wicked haven]

Add hospital if you can

And maybe support AA

[patent thistle]

the one lost heavy cruiser was some finish one i stole

[meager valley]

Okay I did it

[brittle cypress]

it is technically OK as an early game defensive division, but engineers are expensive for that and line arty isn't that good

[static river]

yavuz dominancy

[meager valley]

So you do what I said. Then after you carve up the Congo, I believe you can restore titles?

Restoring the titles for 150 pp is what gets the Kaiserin

[wicked haven]

I did Congo too

Maybe bc I’m at war

[meager valley]

What about Anglo German Defense Pact

[wicked haven]

Ye

[meager valley]

Yeah you don’t want to go to war before doing it

[wicked haven]

Belgium declared on me

[meager valley]

I think you need to be at peace, or not generated tension

[wicked haven]

Oh well

[meager valley]

If you beat them you may get the option

[still loom]

Which free features do we get with the new dlc?

[patent thistle]

funny how it wasnt even involved in this battle

[static river]

yavuz spirit

[patent thistle]

wasnt*

glad btw i refited those

anways i let france deal with what remains of the italian navy

[zinc light]

If past DLCs are something to Go off of, I'd assume the reworked faction tab and historical trees for the nations in the DLC

Since the faction tab is just a reskin, and it'd be odd to pay for exclusively cosmetical changes

[calm robin]

as the us do i just use 1934 heavy tanks or go for the 1940 ones?

[zinc light]

A few mils on 1934 to build efficiency and rush the 1940 Tech

The '34s are awful

[idle folio]

is hoi4 arguably one of the hardest game to play?

[zinc light]

Nah 💀

EUIV is wayy more complicated imo

[tepid crown]

Imo hoi4 is one of the easiest

[patent thistle]

funny how noone here realised yet i am playing democratic russia

[zinc light]

I'm glad you say that, because everyone else says Stellaris is the easiest, and I 1) Love Stellaris and 2) got into hoi4 much easier than into Stellaris

[tepid crown]

I think stellaris is easier initially

[zinc light]

What I like about Stellaris is that, the game can be as difficult as you want it to be
In HOI4 you have exactly one playable mode

Also, it's got incredible depth
Definetly much more than hoi4

[tepid crown]

40 tech for tanks isn’t worth, usually only tank you go above a basic chassis on is light tanks. Heavy and mediums are good at interwar and basic

[tepid crown]

Yeah that’s all paradox games outside hoi4 really

[sage karma]

every paradox games are easy

[tepid crown]

The newer games are pretty easy

[sage karma]

i never struggled in any paradox games

[zinc light]

You dont remember Cities Skylines 1 anymore do you?

[sage karma]

my favorite is ck2

[zinc light]

Thar game was painful

Well, it was fun
But cs2 is definetly much easier

[idle folio]

im new to this game and i was so confused about the military system

[topaz dove]

Did any of you guys even research Heavy ship hull 1940?

For me, nah

[sage karma]

i make money by playing cs2, weekly drops gets me 1$-10$ depending on the luck

[tepid crown]

I found that game easy too but had a bit of in-depth stuff

[tepid crown]

Super heavy battleships

[sage karma]

i don't get why people avoid building a navy. with right commanders, right ship builds even minor nations absolutely dominate the sea

[tepid crown]

Navy doesn’t really matter except for naval supremacy

[sage karma]

in my mongolian campaign i destroyed japanese fleet as mongolia

[sage karma]

every single game i played i always destroy USA. which means building a navy

i played like 100 games at least, all of them invades USA at some point

[heavy vigil]

:3

[tepid crown]

Honestly not that hard in vanilla

[sage karma]

destroying USA is my main goal in every game

i always play communist or fascist, rarely monarch but never democracy

[zinc light]

My pathway to invade the US:

• am I in europe? Paradrop UK, puppet Canada
• am I actually on America? Fight my way to them
• am I anywhere else? Paradrop UK, puppet Canada

[tepid crown]

Democracies don’t have much going on rn, paradox has really only focused on axis nations last few years

[sage karma]

i absolutely hate democracies

when i see democratic country i invade them always

communists are pretty cool tho

can't wait to play new communist china

[tepid crown]

They’re fine just a bit boring rn until war starts

[sage karma]

nah i just hate democracy irl

[tepid crown]

Oh

That’s concerning

[sage karma]

it's a fantasy of mine

to destroy all democracies

[broken sky]

soviet massmob build is crazy

[tepid crown]

That’s certain a take. Far from a good take, but a take

[broken sky]

cuz i just get to sit it out

😌

[tepid crown]

Very

[patent thistle]

i only do it with germany

and maybe the US if i want to do some historical battleships

[zinc light]

Democracies in SP are comparatively boring to Fascist/communist because your Goal is peacekeeping and liberating / freeing countries from oppression, whereas your goals otherwise are expansion and subjugation

It's fun in Multiplayer tho

[topaz dove]

Is refitting the fire control system ok?

[patent thistle]

ye

[broken sky]

tbf, the major power democracies are buffed asf anyways by virtue of navy/air/industry

[patent thistle]

as long you dont change engine, armor or main batteries refits are worth it

[tepid crown]

True, but dude I was talking is just a totalitarian. Very weird

[zinc light]

Indeed

[broken sky]

The Axis literally needs a boost just to win it out (focuses, etc.)

[patent thistle]

i have never seen germany win in multiplayer

only once when i was playing it but it was PAINFUL

[tepid crown]

Germany always kills Soviets in Mp and if Allie’s don’t land before they lose

[broken sky]

A good Soviet player can hold out long enough against a good Germany player for the US and Briatin to land in both Italy and France

[patent thistle]

ye

[broken sky]

Literal sacrificial tankroach before they bleghhh

[patent thistle]

italy is most of the time uselesss

even some good Italy players i know still lose north africa after some time

[broken sky]

The UK puppets singlehandedly just holding the lines😂

[patent thistle]

ye. 😭

[tepid crown]

Africa usually isn’t worth it for axis, it’s better to go full into Soviets and kill them quickly

[patent thistle]

i remember one meme mp game in which i gone democratic soviets-

[tepid crown]

Depends. Germany is easily the strongest country in the game now. Soviets usually die by mid 1942 pretty consistently

[patent thistle]

.

[sudden thistle]

I have seen Germany win half the time for my games

[tepid crown]

It’s actually pretty balanced rn

[sudden thistle]

If Germany wins, I’m on allies
If allies win, I’m with Germany

I swear I have a 100% loss rate

[broken sky]

Didn't Gotterdamerung give Germany a pretty good jelqing?

I'm fine with the state of things right now

[patent thistle]

unless you have that one game in which the germans just are unable to be defeated

[tepid crown]

It bloated Germany like crazy in just about everything

[patent thistle]

i know one MP game which i remember, germany had like 6 carriers and 12 battlecruisers- 💀

[broken sky]

Battlecruiser operational

[sudden thistle]

In one mp game Japan took all of allied Asia, most of Africa, and all of Brazil

And some people still say “Japan has no game impact”

[broken sky]

pretty good japan, really bad china, or either, tbh

[tepid crown]

That’s unusual. Usually they bounce on raj

[sudden thistle]

China is 100% AI in the games I play

[patent thistle]

i know one MP game in which i was basically the fire brigade as japan for the axis-

[broken sky]

If Japan chokes India, Malay and Burma, then UK suffers from rubber and manpower

Which kills its air superiority

[topaz dove]

What refit do you think is not ok? Armor? Guns?

[sudden thistle]

And then people say Brazil does rubber for the allies

[patent thistle]

armor, engine and main guns

[sudden thistle]

When they get like 70

For all of the allies

[tepid crown]

US would just build refineries

[patent thistle]

these get way too expensive too easily to refit

[broken sky]

Oh, then that means that it's earlier aggro for the Japanese then

Usually you can defeat China in under a year anyways (vs. an AI China)

[sudden thistle]

Player China needs a WAY better Japan then

[patent thistle]

i hope that the new DLC atleast somewhat fixes the balance between the two

[broken sky]

Literally Eight Years War

🤓

[tepid crown]

Wym

[visual blade]

Does No Compromise No Surrender have a preorder bonus?

[sudden thistle]

I mean it’s kinda even

[patent thistle]

i have seen china only survive once in my games until i got involved

[tepid crown]

That’s how it’s supposed to be

Japan needs China

[broken sky]

SP?

[sudden thistle]

Truth

[patent thistle]

single and multiplayer

[broken sky]

huh

Usually Japan stalls before it can even reach Changde for me

Never saw a Reorganized Government of China in my '36 runs, ever

Only in the '39 ones does Japan actually win

[heavy vigil]

japan can always beat china in time

[tepid crown]

Same

[heavy vigil]

just need a decent player

[patent thistle]

i have litterally seen some games in which japan played snake with china-

[broken sky]

Yeah, just keep invading south

literally

[heavy vigil]

?

no?

[broken sky]

What?

[heavy vigil]

you finish war late 37

you can just go land push if u want

more consistent

[sudden thistle]

Nah u gotta larp and just not win

[patent thistle]

did once about mid 37

[heavy vigil]

true

[broken sky]

That's... what I'm doing

[heavy vigil]

no collabs :(

[patent thistle]

i dont have la-resistance

[heavy vigil]

you cant be earlier than late 37

[broken sky]

I land Shandong, Shanghai, Fujian, and whatever until they get overwhelmed and jsut snake it throug Changde and Chongqing and boom

[tepid crown]

It can be, just takes a good Japan

[heavy vigil]

as in

capping china

because you dont have the collabs done yet

[sudden thistle]

Did Japan not do collabs irl

[heavy vigil]

ofc you can but then no eco

[patent thistle]

man you make me want to play china again (rt56)

[sudden thistle]

They would have won

[tepid crown]

Yeah, in multiplayer let me add, can done before late 37

[heavy vigil]

oh yeah mp mods also nerf china

which is silly

but whatever

the warlords dont have mil debuffs

[tepid crown]

I’m gonna be real, I don’t play vanilla much

[heavy vigil]

thats fine

[patent thistle]

you are not alone

i have at the very least the mosquito fleet mod

[sudden thistle]

What’s that

[tepid crown]

Now I either do test builds in multiplayer mods or play overhaul mods

[patent thistle]

basically adds many little subclasses of smaller vessels

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3167195673&searchtext=mosquito

[sudden thistle]

30 dockyards on rowboats 🗣️

[patent thistle]

frigates, corvetes and i believe also PT boats

and auxilery cruisers

[broken sky]

Row-row-row your boat gently down the Mediterranean

[patent thistle]

it also gives the soviets and germans a kind of escort fleet to work with

[sudden thistle]

The Soviet German naval battle will be a contest of incompetence

[patent thistle]

dont forget the italians

and fr*nch

[broken sky]

The Kriegsmarine was pretty A-okay as a naval branch

The Soviet naval branch... errr...

[patent thistle]

eh, let me remind you what happend to the bismarck

and the graf zepplin never being build

[broken sky]

Literal useless fleet in being to be honest

[patent thistle]

the tirpitz actually did that with success

it forced the allies to move resources just to get it

the bismarck was just poor planning

[broken sky]

i am now going to build a naval soviet fleet and pump out 36 width infantry divisions and battleplan and sit down peeing

[patent thistle]

i recomment refitting the battleships as soon you can

[broken sky]

Yeah, I am

[patent thistle]

and the heavy cruisers (if you build those)

[broken sky]

And the subs too, since I'll just be building cheap ash destroyers and light cruisers as fast as i can

[dawn mango]

3 days till dlc

[patent thistle]

and before you do the kronstadt class, name 1936 hulls with the exact name said there

with how you want them to be

[broken sky]

I am going to be the greatest naval power, as Peter the Great willed it to be

[patent thistle]

thats what i do with for example the bismarcks you get if you go down the german naval tree

[broken sky]

trade interdiction build is so cool

i go down the convoy refit focus

[patent thistle]

im more the surface fleet guy

[broken sky]

free yum yum ships

enough to kill the RN over and over

[patent thistle]

you will never see me make subs unless its the one the game has already in construction

[patent thistle]

i either use those submarines i start with as cannon fother to force the enemy to move its fleet or just let them rot in port

[patent thistle]

be careful if you use this with other mods tho

RT56 has its own version not for any reason

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448929820&searchtext=mosquito

[heavy vigil]

theyre gonna lose now but they did so well :)

[fading elk]

Everyone talks of the German BBs of ww2, no one cares for scheer and the panzershiffe actually getting to do funny adventures besides spee

Also the Germans sold the Soviets plans to Bismarck and the narviks

Ya u find goofy things in books from ages ago

[patent thistle]

they tend to be forgotten since ingame they sink fairly easily

[fading elk]

I ended up using a pz and a cl in my democratic Germany game called the blucher and stuggart

They sank a few dozen convoys before the Italians sent a whole battlefleet after them

[patent thistle]

i said "usually"

[fading elk]

Ya I usually em when I have them

[patent thistle]

i refit them usually so they can atleast survive a little longer

[silk gust]

German ai did this

I’ve never seen this before

[sudden thistle]

U sent this already

[wintry jay]

hi guys what kind of CPU's do you have

i have ryzen 5600 and i feel like game is going really slow after 1942

im playing vanilla i mean no mods and kaiserreich mostly

[still loom]

What's stronger? Drugs or this?

A true hoi4 player will say green bubbles right away

[drowsy sleet]

@tropic copper when top ten racism qoutes

Im waiting for the video

[brave wyvern]

HOI5 please

[broken sky]

GREEN IN THE EASTERN FRONT

[broken sky]

when wil lthey release hoi3

😭

[quiet yacht]

I never played hoi3

[broken sky]

hoi3 is added autism on top of hoi4

[brave wyvern]

Hopefully it will be like victoria plus hoi4 with 3d portraits

Like EU5

[unreal basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-leader-meme-gif-385439333576609286

[wet plover]

I’ve seen these bots in like 3 servers now. Who’s running all this shi 😭

Oh it’s gone now

[silk gust]

Yea was just posting it again since I couldn’t find my post about it

Original

[simple crest]

but the corsair ships were cooler, like the Kormoran (HSK-8)

[fickle cove]

how do i get my fleet to join the battle

[fading elk]

If we’re going of merchants seeadlers gotta be the best

be Germany ww1
no fuel
take sail ship, slap on guns
crew get stranded in middle of pacific

It’s like reading about the Czechoslovak legion in the Russian civil war about the most interesting stuff and then realising it’s Basically a side plot to what’s actually happening

[slim nexus]

Green in the Asian Theater

[fierce mist]

what yall think about darkest hour

[still loom]

It's dark

[meager nest]

guys

is it just me or has germany been really slow since the last few patches

like, its mid 1939 and they're at 620k soldiers deployed

they havent even demanded sudetenland

its been like this almost all my games since the germany update

its kinda unplayable to be an axis nation 😭

[slim nexus]

Online?

I mean if you choose any axis nation you should be strong enough to deal with it m

[heavy vigil]

seems to just be you

who are you even playing

[meager nest]

italy

most of the other games have been as soviets/hungary/turkey

[meager nest]

wdym

their army size hasnt increased since mid 1938

[slim nexus]

Italy is strong enough to deal with it

Also Germany wins like automatically in Historical

Just think about the Africa fronts and help them in the Barbarossa

[meager nest]

alr

do you have any ideas on what i can do to stop this from happening

its gonna be like 1941 until they start wwii

[slim nexus]

Is no more than a total of 120 days betweeen the Anchuluss and Danzing or war

You can start the war by yourself too if you want

[meager nest]

its been about a year since anchuluss

[meager nest]

alr

[slim nexus]

Actually I think it is like 175

Maybe 210..

[copper sluice]

can someone explain to me why my units always have 0 organisation when fighting japan in east asia

[meager nest]

they dont even have enough soldiers in the field for sudetenland 🙏

its probably because im playing with basically every one of those mods that make it more realistic

[slim nexus]

They have

It should be 500k

[meager nest]

its 725k

[slim nexus]

Yea

My bad

[slim nexus]

Mods?

[still loom]

So true. Love yourself

[meager nest]

lemme check

tbh its probably the training and experience one

that, or production

production one makes factories cost more depending on how many you have

training one makes trained troops much more important and adds a flat 7% attrition to everything to represent the maintenance of a standing army

one of them also gives you insane -75% civ factory debuffs for not having enough resources, which germany was short on for the entire time

[still loom]

"New dlc will make line artillery op due to doctrine changes"
How true is that?

[meager nest]

thats probably the one

[heavy vigil]

"better mechanics" does a lot to ai and general game balance

[heavy vigil]

we will see

it is far from "OP" rn

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-artillery-cannon-zis-3-firing-gif-10889269028097843985

[meager valley]

I’m interested in seeing how far you can take militia/irregulars

Asa and Ethiopia may be more viable than ever

[heavy vigil]

they dont use militias

they use irregulars

big difference

genuinely btw because their stats are different

[meager nest]

do you think i should remove most of them or no

[heavy vigil]

up to you

just be aware

[astral turret]

Wait whats the diffrence of irreguals and militias???

[slim nexus]

So did you just answer yourself.

[meager nest]

yeah i think so lol

[honest night]

I think line arty will be semi viable but probably not meta we could see it in marine templates maybe?

[honest night]

Also what are the changes to militia that make it strong now?

[meager valley]

Doctrines will potentially influence them

I know they’ll impact irregulars though

[craggy trail]

They're essentially weaker infantry divisions. However, militias are stronger in stats than irregular infantry with 5 less HP.

[meager valley]

Interesting they’re both buffed by the same thing 😉

[meager valley]

Wait, says irregulars but again buffs both?

It’s bc they’re similar in game 😂

Still, discounting semantics. This will buff Ethiopia and Asa

[celest dirge]

Is Operational integrity air doctrine make any sense? I don't really know any countries that actually have similar things in WWII.

[heavy vigil]

yes but not acttually

again, look at batallion stats and terrain modifiers

militias suckk

[meager valley]

Anyways, Ethiopia and Asa may be more viable now due to their units getting buffed

[heavy vigil]

afghanistan has quami too

[meager valley]

Wonder how far you can buff them beyond these

[heavy vigil]

powerful stuff

irregulars are crazy

30 hp batallion with lower org for less cost than a normal inf batallion

[meager valley]

Gotta wonder if any Chinese countries will make use of them apart from PRC

Tibet/Indochina/Siam/Burma could potentially

[craggy trail]

I can finally annex everything after 10 years of war and political power build up

[meager valley]

Yeah they may be too op on launch

[meager valley]

Lowkey a fast WC by 1960

[heavy vigil]

if you have access to them you should typically use them

its like camels

[craggy trail]

Could be a lot quicker, but I neglected building an airforce when fighting Greater Germany

[limber arrow]

Whats the limit for naval invasions

[sudden thistle]

10 normally

Research more cap

[meager valley]

Anything before 1965 is quick imo. Fast would be like 1955

[limber arrow]

10 invasions or 10 division

[sudden thistle]

10 divs

[limber arrow]

Kk

[sudden thistle]

Rip new players playing Italy

[meager valley]

And when you launch naval invasions, it goes quicker if you launch many small invasions versus one big one

Like 5 groups of 2 divisions versus 1 group of 10

[limber arrow]

Kk im gonna naval invade china

[meager valley]

Should be fine since they’ll take a while to develop

[craggy trail]

Yeah. You're right

[drowsy sleet]

OH PORTUGALES

[meager valley]

Legit like 1965 is the normal end date for WC’s

[sudden thistle]

The new doctrine needs actual combat to develop right

[meager valley]

Yeah

XP to start then combat to increase

So the irregulars won’t be OP from the get go

[sudden thistle]

This shits on the allies even more

[limber arrow]

Should i invade shandong or eastern hebei and Beijing firs

[sudden thistle]

Rip

Shandong

Then rush west when u land

[limber arrow]

Ok

[sudden thistle]

Try to encircle Behring

Bejieng

[limber arrow]

K but for me the Chinese reinforces so fast

[sudden thistle]

Close enough Yknow what I mean

[limber arrow]

I got almost no time to take 1 tile before 10 chinese division arrives

[meager valley]

Helps to have a few naval invasions. Then you can encircle them

[craggy trail]

Well now I can start working on these new "save design" folders

[limber arrow]

Does this look good or should i do it in another way

[ripe slate]

https://youtu.be/xOKZ0BmakwE

[heavy vigil]

i saw that in #challenge-submissions

[meager valley]

Yeah that’s just cheating basically

[west pagoda]

yo gift me some dlcs paradox

🤬

[rare crow]

I think I have proven a point with this game

[runic wraith]

first time conquering poland on regular difficulty

any tips?

[meager valley]

Try to encircle as many units as you can. Like 2 here, 3 there. The more you kill off, the less they have to defend and so they start shuffling units and their lines break down

Then yolo Moscow, Baku and Leningrad

[copper sluice]

what do I do when no front in the war is moving at all

[sudden thistle]

Did u perchance annex the allied navies

[meager valley]

Stop battle planning and micro encirclements using special forces/tanks

[sudden thistle]

Get more plane or better tank

[toxic cypress]

greekie

[rare crow]

yes

[cedar lance]

2 days left yalls till NCNS comes out

[tepid crown]

3*

[sharp sierra]

oh you mean that tv show

[cedar lance]

no i mean hte hoi4 dlc expansion

[sharp sierra]

which one theres been so many

[tepid crown]

NCNS

[sharp sierra]

whats ncns

[tepid crown]

the new dlc

[sharp sierra]

i didnt know there was a new one coming out

whats it called again

[tepid crown]

NCNS

[sharp sierra]

like the american railroad

[tepid crown]

No compromise no surrender

[rare crow]

Me doing a German naval game was kinda pointless because I just got the allied navies. But I produced a Carrier.

[heavy vigil]

oh sorry accidental leak

[candid pecan]

how do i fix unable to find valid path to target

i have naval supremacy

idk

[tepid crown]

📸

[snow rain]

declare the war

[candid pecan]

?

wdym declare the war

[sharp sierra]

what are you invading

[candid pecan]

im trying to move my troops from my mainland to sardinia

[sharp sierra]

oh lol

i think the ai has fleet there

[candid pecan]

i have naval supremacy

[sharp sierra]

blocking the crossing

[candid pecan]

idk

[sharp sierra]

yea it doesnt matter

u need to kill the ships there

[candid pecan]

bruh

[zinc light]

When your country dislikes all available options

[winged field]

Blud has all enemies

[tepid crown]

lmao, reminds me of that one guy who said he hates democracy irl earlier

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/tupac-2pac-trust-nobody-gif-5000085

[zinc light]

fr lmao

[winged field]

Trust only the mama party

None else

[brave steeple]

i hate how to buy convoys you need convoys...

[heavy vigil]

not if its over land

[brave steeple]

and you dont need convoys if you have a land border which makes it even worse

[brave steeple]

was about to say

i could see how you dont need convoys for land

if the convoys are somehow not assembled

[heavy vigil]

no dummy

you need a convoy to go pick up the convoys

[brave steeple]

i feel like you wouldnt tho

eh well

[sharp sierra]

this is clausewitz game engine

[heavy vigil]

i see it as

country makes thing

you need to send someone to pick up thing

but you have no wooden boat or anything

so you need to send convoy

[brave steeple]

fair point

however on the other hand i feel like they come with crews

when you buy a convoy you dont need manpower

for it

[heavy vigil]

you need manpower for convoys?

[brave steeple]

pretty sure when creating convoys you do

99% sure

actually

50% sure

[sharp sierra]

i doubt it

[heavy vigil]

convoys have some crazy stats for 0 manpower ships

[brave steeple]

never mind

makes no sense

i tbh just asumed they did

because why wouldnt they

like 100 men prob ish

[heavy vigil]

thats a lot for some nations

[brave steeple]

true

eh

prob for balancing

still doesnt make sense why it isnt at least 10

eh well

[snow rain]

civilian pops aren't in the game and it would just be annoying as hell to have a mp requirement for it

[sharp sierra]

ture

[heavy vigil]

civil pops are in the game and can be killed

just only through conventional warfare

[sharp sierra]

what stats would a female infantry battalion have

not making fun of women

[snow rain]

how ?

they can only be killed through being in a div, which makes them military

[heavy vigil]

yes but you can demobilize which makes them civillians

kiev for example

(you can see its down 500K civillian pops)

[snow rain]

guh

[heavy vigil]

and i think it affects growth of the state? but im not sure about that

in general its just civ pop + recruitable pop and 1% monthly growth i believe

[exotic shard]

ughh

why does philipines get a focus tree in the expansion coming thursday but not siam

one is a puppet of the us:(

[green plume]

for america GBP or mass assault doctrine

[tulip thorn]

Both are great

I personally like gbp since I like to use tanks and special forces the most as usa

[deep solstice]

meant to put in off topic 🥀

[green plume]

but wouldnt mass assault theoretically be better since less supply consumptio/attrition when you land?

[tulip thorn]

no

Your supply isnt going to be that bad if you dont super stack onto islands

And gdp also gives less supply consumption

[heavy vigil]

oh dempsey

dont invade places with like 3 army groups worth of tank divs

your supply will suck

pro tip

[green plume]

but whyyyyy

i love putting 3 tank army's in a naval invasion with 5 tiles worth

LMAO

[heavy vigil]

army group isnt the same as army

army group is 120 divs

[green plume]

ah

[heavy vigil]

an army is fine if you just like have a port

[deep solstice]

man I need to do another germany run

[green plume]

germany is fun

when ur not getting naval invaded and strat bombed on every fort

allied air superiority is gay

whats best in multiplayer for america though.. still grand battleplan or mass assault

[grand wolf]

Isnt gbp still the meta? And with American industry you can make alot of mils

[tulip thorn]

Gdp is just better for america

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-still-water-gif-18089208077801051270

[astral turret]

its 1940 and germany and swiss are one step close to take over world (they not in any way right now)

[green plume]

assault or infiltration

[tulip thorn]

Assault

[cunning oxide]

Finland reuniting Rome focus when?

[zinc light]

teehee

[zinc light]

the Ottoman Empire is a successor to Rome?

[cunning oxide]

I guess

[zinc light]

huh

thats a first

[desert frigate]

Idk man isn’t Finland Protestant

[split bane]

They claimed succession via conquest

[dense pivot]

I BELIEVE

!!!

[zinc light]

definetly wouldnt be the craziest thin to be modded in this game

the Holy Roman United Kingdoms of Finno-Ugria

[desert frigate]

“Redeem the 3rd Rome” and you gotta annex Leningrad, Istanbul, Rome, and Aachen as Finland

[zinc light]

Bro threw Aachen in there as if I (a german) wouldnt notice 💀

[desert frigate]

Wasn’t Aachen for the Franks

[unreal patio]

dh is cool but boy were the devs not thinking about balancing

[sonic sand]

when the hearts are made of Fe(IV)

[desert frigate]

Vienna wouldn’t feel right

[zinc light]

no clue how that city is related to the romans

[unreal patio]

which is okay I guess it's an sp mod primarily but

[desert frigate]

I think it was Charlemagne’s capital

[zinc light]

oh really?

[desert frigate]

And the early capital of the HRE

[zinc light]

damn, didnt know that

[still loom]

Do you think resources will get a rework anytime soon?

[zinc light]

Coal.

[tepid crown]

You can crush ai air forces easily

[still loom]

Like, giving stockpile for every resource

It's something I want to see

[tulip thorn]

The amount of extra lag this would cause late game

[zinc light]

no bueno

[tulip thorn]

Its already the stockpiles that cause most lag late game

[green plume]

i mean in MP

[tepid crown]

In mp just gotta speed blitz Soviets then should have too much IC for Allies to do anything. Plus Strat bombing is usually banned in mp

[tulip thorn]

Your playing mp right now?

[native holly]

fox

[zinc light]

Fox!

[green plume]

nah

[native holly]

foxxxx!

[green plume]

imagine a good soviet player

[tulip thorn]

You playing sheep mod

[green plume]

no mods

[zinc light]

its a fellow fox!!!

[native holly]

:D

[tepid crown]

Even good sov players usually die by mid 42 unless axis are super terrible

[native holly]

a fellow fox AND they like hoi iv and geography??

[green plume]

but like

dankus memecus

[zinc light]

Indeed!

[tepid crown]

Germany is too strong for vanilla based mp

Sov will die with a competent axis

[zinc light]

yeah, they're literally not allowed to invade france pre 39 because they'd just steamroll them

[tepid crown]

It’s why Allies usually have to invade in 41- early 42

[green plume]

gotcha

[zinc light]

however, US isnt allowed to join war pre 41 I believe, and the allies are (mostly) not allowed to help france in most lobbies

[tepid crown]

If allies can’t land before sov died axis pretty much wins

[patent thistle]

i hate how rt56 has a prerequisit for the yugoslav Minors that they cant do the industry tree. -_-

[green plume]

damn

[zinc light]

if the soviets fight alone they'll lose most of the time, however a few mongolian or finnish tank voluneers are all thats needed to win

[tepid crown]

Finlands usually on axis side and Mongolia is either ai or annexed into sov in most mp

[zinc light]

or just any good volunteers for that matter

[heavy vigil]

nuh uh

[zinc light]

most MP lobbies are decided by some random AFK idiot who does nothing but build one singular insane tank division to volunteer

[heavy vigil]

railway gun nation

[tepid crown]

Mongolia?

[heavy vigil]

yes and generic tree so gun rush

very useful with ussr research limits

[tepid crown]

I see Iran more than I do Mongolia on sov team

[heavy vigil]

yeah cuz iran gives ussr improved small airframe tech

mongolia is still useful tho

its like saying why play bulgaria when i see italy more

[tepid crown]

I’ve never seen anyone play Mongolia is the thing in most comp games

[heavy vigil]

well for comp usually ussr licenses allied gun

depends on license rules and stuff

[warped flint]

Bro these spanish are pissing me off

They cant hold a frontline for a week

[native holly]

they seriously cant, and also why does your map look so ugly

[warped flint]

its the tno map mod

[native holly]

god that looks awful

[warped flint]

Yeah theres like nothing I can do to save this

[native holly]

ggs

[warped flint]

Well I like it

[native holly]

and thats fine

[warped flint]

There divisions are just dissapearing

[native holly]

was just saying my opinion c:

[native holly]

spain is useless the entire game

even if they join your faction they do nothing and if they fight they lose almost every goddamn time

[warped flint]

Magically after encircling their army and destroying it like 5 times they still have full strength on the nationalist side

[native holly]

i love it when the ai cheats

[warped flint]

I cant even encircle them anymore

there just constantly attacking their line

so I cant move

[native holly]

give up on spain they're worthless tbh

[warped flint]

Eh ill stay in their just for army xp

[native holly]

yeah i usually send an attache to both sides if im playing a country that has a lot of political power xD

[warped flint]

You cant do that tho?

Oh wait

nvm

I got confused with something

Oh wait no you cant

[native holly]

ur good

yes you can

you just befriend both of them its funny

[native holly]

yeah cuz you're sided with one side

i do it as a neutral country in regards to that conflict

but if you can, send an attache to both cuz its ez xp early game

[warped flint]

YES

THEIR DIEING

[green plume]

YES KING!

[sick saddle]

🤨

[remote quarry]

tank minor is fake

just means you have skill issue lobby

[native holly]

nicee

[heavy vigil]

wtfff i just found out malaysia starts with radar

[warped flint]

Also I am playing with max buffed germoney

[native holly]

i love germoney

[heavy vigil]

cute pfp

[tulip thorn]

Makes more sense than spain starting with helicopters

[native holly]

aw thx, likewise!

i love how both of our pfps are pulling a similar pose xD

[heavy vigil]

i dont think the uk starts with radar??

but malaysia does

[tulip thorn]

The uk does

Uk not only starts with radar, they also have I think level 1 or 2 radar already built

[sudden thistle]

Spain invented helicopters

[tulip thorn]

Yeah mb in 1936

Spain had a full fleet of helicopters in 1936

[wicked haven]

Austro Hungary built them in wwi

[zinc light]

so does the UK so... makes sense I think?

[desert pollen]

is rocket artillery or SPG artillery better?

[astral turret]

ok this bs happend twice today to me now no peace treaty at all

[zinc light]

SPG as in the tank version?

[astral turret]

gonna wait for new dlc to come out and pray this bs dosent happend anymore never before did it skip the peace treaty until today TWICE

[heavy vigil]

kinda but i didnt know

[west pagoda]

yo give me my dlc

boi

[still loom]

[zinc light]

screw it, go in anyways

[craggy trail]

[still loom]

I hate allies

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[tulip thorn]

I love the allies

[golden cosmos]

i hate allies

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-naval-gif-12542253955591881556

[golden cosmos]

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[dusky burrow]

Peak Aussa gameplay

[autumn ether]

any poland players that exist

[heavy vigil]

place your bets on whose gonna win

[golden cosmos]

japan fs

[astral turret]

Mengkukuo will win trust

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[heavy vigil]

daring bets

[golden cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-kitten-funny-smirk-gif-11080875160047480376

[fickle thicket]

depends on who got bigger navy

[heavy vigil]

ai is doing a 39 barb

[fickle thicket]

gg germany

havent capped france and doing barb

[heavy vigil]

remember ai ussr has a far east front too

[fickle thicket]

germany will cap before 42

mark my words

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[brittle wedge]

Hey guys, I like to play a pirated copy of Not one step back by myself. I have like 1000s of hours.

They made an update which nerfed germany and added helicopters and i just couldnt cope with how stupid and bad that was.

[tulip thorn]

what

[brittle wedge]

This is hearts of iron server right?

[tulip thorn]

yes

Its not the piracy server

Actually really against the rules to talk and admit to piracy

[brittle wedge]

Oh shoot im sry

Are there like devs on this server? Sorry for stealing ur 100 dollar game xD

[tulip thorn]

This is the official server my guy

Owned and operated by paradox

No one cares if you pirated it, dont talk about it

Like holy

[brittle wedge]

I do really enjoy the game, I just wish that AI could be smarter

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/bIBi0.gif

[tulip thorn]

Literally

Did he even read the rules

[astral turret]

The AI is like a real person sometimes it sucks or avarge somtimes its like u fighting a top 10 player in the world

[tulip thorn]

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[icy crescent]

Reading is difficult.
Basic stuff.

[brittle wedge]

Ive never played online because like how??

Its hard enough to play civ V online

I could never coordinate that

[astral turret]

Same

[tulip thorn]

Who is talking about civ V lol

This is hoi4

[astral turret]

When hoi5????

[tulip thorn]

2085

[brittle wedge]

If hoi 5 had good ai i will actually buy xD

[tulip thorn]

Hoi4 ai isnt that bad

Its meant to be basic

If you want really good ai go play sheeps mod

[brittle wedge]

Dont get me wrong i enjoy fighting againts waves if infantry but i want a new larp

[tulip thorn]

Go play sheeps ai

[brittle wedge]

Ok ill take a look