hoi4-general

[wraith mauve]

Super very tuff

Yo add me on discord

[warped flint]

the op focus tree is here...

[ruby bear]

What mod is this?

[warped flint]

TNO Requiem

[ruby bear]

it looks coool

[warped flint]

It is

you must try it

its peak

[ruby bear]

I plan to try all the cool mods, I am currently learning the game still 😭

[cedar lance]

hello all yalls

4 days left

[warped flint]

oh no

[silk fern]

you vill drink ze milk

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-order-klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-parody-r-u-ready-4-ze-new-world-order-gif-10007432617932751756

[deep solstice]

im so lucky hes on my side bro 🥀

super ultra mecha hitler over there

[wraith mauve]

Economic forum 2023🗣️🗣️🗣️🔊🔊

[deep solstice]

super mecha hitler crushing every naval invasion he smells

[wraith mauve]

Uh 1k divisions

[deep solstice]

its super mecha hitler bro 😭

[marsh ravine]

Fight it.

[deep solstice]

look at the size of that REICH !

I feel so small

[wraith mauve]

Somone let him establish reichskommistariates

[wet coyote]

Super Nein 45

[wraith mauve]

Deploying the airforce

[deep solstice]

its time for service by requirement 😢

[marsh ravine]

And?

[wraith mauve]

It will destroy the Russian Nazis

[marsh ravine]

Win anyways

[deep solstice]

I am NOT fighting him bro 😭

we are IN the tripartite 😭

[wraith mauve]

Anyone that opposes central Siberian federation is called Nazis

[deep solstice]

they thought they could stop me

thanks goats

i was at 200k manpower lmfao

oh i can FEEL the manpower

still had their capital btw 😭

[hoary knot]

All roads lead to rome

[bleak edge]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-in-wonderland-rabbit-time-all-roads-lead-to-rome-rorb-gif-16960488214235607997

[marsh ravine]

Yes you are

[dusky burrow]

oh my god

[shadow mango]

Whats tall personal record on most men

In the army at one time

[crude fossil]

How do I not suck ass at this game

[shadow mango]

Play it

[crude fossil]

I’ve tried to play as Italy and I can’t even take Ethiopia

[shadow mango]

Was the same

Just play it

You will figure it out

If you dont find smb to coach you

In a voice call

No tips can help you that much

[desert pollen]

???

[shadow mango]

[desert pollen]

vro

[tulip thorn]

Watch tutorials

[devout trench]

Watch ISP or something and copy what he does

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

tutorials are fake man

only 0.000067% of players actually understand everything

[devout trench]

Personally

Just learn the infantry templates

That’s all you need

[green plume]

as germany is it broken to use paratroopers in MP

on france

[misty fossil]

what is the point if you can simply crush the maginot

yes its doable

[green plume]

i mean its the quickest, also takes the least casualties.

[misty fossil]

ive done it myself

[green plume]

u can do the same to UK

[green plume]

it REALLY pisses people off

[misty fossil]

yeah but its a power statement

[wet coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-porpoise-i'm-stupid-dumb-idiot-moment-porpoise-gif-4033995796839847017

[valid prairie]

is masters of our own fate focus for anarchist spain actually needed?

[abstract steppe]

hello everyone

[queen cobalt]

any hoi4 mp? im new to mp and i want to try mp

[fickle cove]

💯🔥6️⃣👌😂👌7️⃣🔥💯

[shadow mango]

[abstract steppe]

im also new to mp

so lets play together i guess

[queen cobalt]

alright

[queen cobalt]

where do we play?

[abstract steppe]

you decide

[queen cobalt]

make the server, ill join

[abstract steppe]

ok

[amber solstice]

want +1?

[abstract steppe]

ok

[amber solstice]

but i am hoping to play with road to 56?

i heard it makes game better

[queen cobalt]

i dont have that mod yet, we can play vanilla together tho

[amber solstice]

mkay

where should we meet? in private messages?

[queen cobalt]

waiting for @abstract steppe to make the server

[amber solstice]

oh no chat room with jsut us in it? the in game chat is abit bad

[queen cobalt]

sure we can have a chat room, join one of the multiplayer lobby

[amber solstice]

mmm i prefer text fo rsuch a long game, sinc ei'm watching videos and listening to music

[queen cobalt]

alright

did you make the server bro? @abstract steppe

[abstract steppe]

uh

im making it

[queen cobalt]

alr

[abstract steppe]

my pc's laggy so thats why its taking long

[frosty flower]

Buddy your setup is not optimised

[queen cobalt]

sorry bro, take your time

[abstract steppe]

ok did it

[marsh ravine]

Do not let bro join ur game💀

[frosty flower]

You need to use a good performance mod

I can send you one

[abstract steppe]

can i have one?

[queen cobalt]

so whats the server id and pass?

[abstract steppe]

the name's polska
so is the pass

[queen cobalt]

omw

[amber solstice]

i dont see it

[green plume]

For Germany grand battle plan or mobile warfare?

[abstract steppe]

wdym

[queen cobalt]

mine said connection timed out

[abstract steppe]

bruh

[amber solstice]

hmmm

looking again.

[abstract steppe]

im gonna need that ASAP.

[amber solstice]

lol

[ripe slate]

Go in DMs

[abstract steppe]

before i meet the BSOD

[merry bloom]

does hoi4 work well on linux?

[ripe slate]

Very, apparently

[merry bloom]

nice

[ripe slate]

Runs better than on Windows I've heard

[amber solstice]

why you deleting screenshots

🙁

[ripe slate]

No discussing your multiplayer game here, go to DMs for that

Or voicechat-text-chat

[amber solstice]

you dont have a looking for group chat room

[frosty flower]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3606797684

[abstract steppe]

a

[amber solstice]

discord mods living up to the meme stereotype

[marsh ravine]

Gbp

[green plume]

Why and how?

[toxic lotus]

mobile is better u dont have the time too gather planning

[marsh ravine]

And tell me when that is

[marsh ravine]

Planning.

[toxic lotus]

u need too be quick as germany

[marsh ravine]

You are germany why are you ever defending you can get 20+ veterans

[green plume]

I always thought mobile warfare was goated

[marsh ravine]

💀 speed is fake

Speed only matters

When u have supply

[toxic lotus]

i know

im aware

[green plume]

Interesting

[marsh ravine]

Just staff office plan

Its like 3 days max

Full planning

Click

If u stop combat just before midnight every day u dont even lose planning

[toxic lotus]

but the ai can flood france with troops if ur not quick that beinge the brits but that dosent really happen since the ai is not that great

[marsh ravine]

Or

[heavy vigil]

brither

[marsh ravine]

You have good stats?

And you just push?

[heavy vigil]

the ai flooding in troops doesnt matter

[marsh ravine]

No matter what?

[heavy vigil]

stats matter more

[toxic lotus]

it dosent matter since ur fighting ai

[heavy vigil]

like if your attacking stats suck and cant reinforce meme them

it matters

idc if its a player or ai

[toxic lotus]

ai will get demolished by anything

[heavy vigil]

its just not dealing enough damage on your part

[frosty flower]

How tf are you going to dunkirk if your on gbp 💀

Mobile warfare is the only option

[toxic lotus]

i know dawg

[heavy vigil]

gbp is offensive tank doctrine

most stats

mobile warfare is no stats doctrine

[marsh ravine]

So true king

[heavy vigil]

actually helps 0%in battle

[toxic lotus]

u can kill the ai with anything

[frosty flower]

the point being that your fast enough in which you won't have to worry about being in battles

[heavy vigil]

trve

[toxic lotus]

real chads go line arty and sfp lol

[marsh ravine]

Real people go outside

[queen cobalt]

im having a trouble with division template, whats the best div template to use against ai

i keep getting red bubbles

[heavy vigil]

can you do 14/4s outside

[toxic lotus]

Make me

[marsh ravine]

I think you should stay inside lilbrochacho

[heavy vigil]

click on the bubbles to find out

[toxic lotus]

Thx king

[queen cobalt]

im losing

[toxic lotus]

skill issue

[heavy vigil]

green good red bad

[queen cobalt]

dawg im new

[heavy vigil]

you lot of red? thats bad

lot of green? doing well

[queen cobalt]

i see i see

[queen cobalt]

how do you even get that much

[shadow mango]

Just play

Only way to get better is by playing

[heavy vigil]

it says in the screenshots

besides for armored car build

its just to show even a bad unit can get decent stats

[shadow mango]

Casey

Is that your dog on pfp

[green plume]

so gbp just gives you significantly better stats?

[queen cobalt]

almost 100 hour and im still bad at div templates

[heavy vigil]

no

its an image from the internet

[shadow mango]

[shadow mango]

I used horses as germany

You cant be as bad as me

[queen cobalt]

horses?

[shadow mango]

Cavalary

[queen cobalt]

i know its cavalry but germany with horses? is that even good?

[shadow mango]

So like
Watch you tubers

And plau

[shadow mango]

Yes

Thats why im saying

You should never

Go horses as germang

Its the most cursed thing ever

[queen cobalt]

ah i see

[shadow mango]

[amber solstice]

can't even type in teh looking for group voice-text chat

and even if i did noone woudl know someone is typing there

what is wrong with a lfg text room, seems so nonsensical to not have one

[ripe slate]

#historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer exist

[amber solstice]

newer players aren't familiar with such terms

like i see historical i'm thinking what? i just want to enter into conversation with another newer player to start a game

we dont' knwo what historical might mean or not mena

anyway w/e

you're jsut goign to call people stupid i imagine

[ripe slate]

Thats an English issue, not a game knowledge issue

[amber solstice]

exactly knew it

[shadow mango]

Historical is when countries do what happened irl

While non historical

Countries do smth else

E.g soviets doing a civil war

And getting russian empire back

[queen cobalt]

ethiopia landing on rome typa shi

[uncut carbon]

100 is legit nothing dw people here have like 30x more play time and are still ass

[shadow mango]

[urban ivy]

historical: germany gets invaded by french tanks mid 1938

[shadow mango]

Why does my emoji disappear

[green plume]

question.. in GBP doctrine Assault or Infiltration?

[shadow mango]

What is gbp

[green plume]

grand battle plan

[shadow mango]

👍

[queen cobalt]

personally id choose infiltration

[green plume]

both are good?

you think

[queen cobalt]

if you can use it correctly, yes both are good

im just used with infil when using gbp

[amber solstice]

holy jesus

adn y ou can't write more than 1 message per 15 mins in the multiplayer channels

the lack of self awareness is mind blowing i'm laughing out loud

sheesh

look i can't say anything in teh actual multiplayer channels so i'll say it here, i dont mind mods, woud like to play with anewer player to learn game in company p.s i'm actually very laid back lol

[drifting grove]

new hoi4 dlc/season pass is a bad joke and yall are fools for buying it

[queen cobalt]

why is it bad btw?

[heavy vigil]

it has a cooldown because of how often people just mass pinged

[drifting grove]

mainly because paradox's greed has gotton the best of them once more. we are getting full japan rework without an acompying usa one, the pacific front will be ruined, and paradox with charge as an extra 20 dollars to fix it

assuming they fix it at all, GOE has quite literally been dropped because the outrage died down, paradox does not respect you, and you need to realise that so you can demand a better product

[ripe slate]

People could just not buy it

[amber solstice]

feels like a classic case of solving one problem only to cause a more damaging one. anyway i give up i imagine tehre are community servers i can find

[uncut carbon]

very true

[drifting grove]

too many people will buy it, giving paradox approval, wake up

[uncut carbon]

i will also not pay for this latest dlc before i know its good because of how bad the last one was

[ripe slate]

Thats fair

[drifting grove]

they are doing the same with the season pass, the content will almost certainly be subpar, never forget that when MTG came out, the previously paid dlc (the heavy cruiser pack) did not work, and still does not owrk

[uncut carbon]

thats just pdx in 2025 man

[drifting grove]

WTT had content for Japan, all of china, AND germany, were getting less content for more money

[drifting grove]

EXACTLY my point, were getting screwed over, and no one cares

[uncut carbon]

most of them r grown ass men no need to police their spending

if they feel like pdx is doing a good enough job to pay for it

[ripe slate]

Tbf the trees back then were smaller, so there was less content in that way

[uncut carbon]

let them

[drifting grove]

still, we also got a GLOBAL mechanic, (Decisions)

[ripe slate]

Decisions arent DLC locked

[uncut carbon]

content now comes out half broken and generally shitty

let me remind you of the last dlc

[ripe slate]

(Despite originally being planned to be)

[uncut carbon]

and the one before that

[drifting grove]

it ALWAYS comes out that way

[uncut carbon]

now more than ever man

[drifting grove]

EUV seems to be good, so now im waiting for hoi5, then again its paradox, itll be worse in everyway, and only half fixed ever

[ripe slate]

Theres major bugs in it to this day, I would of course prefer they fix more issues

[uncut carbon]

yes they just abandon it and still sell it

thats such a huge scam on their part too

im expecting a working product

like advertised

[drifting grove]

that is LITERALLY what happened with GOE, they never fixed it fully

[uncut carbon]

goe was already the biggest piece of shit dlc oat

yk a dlc is bad when u need a head shoulders knees and toes patch to 'fix it'

[drifting grove]

also they threw the devs under the bus completely

[ripe slate]

Tbf even if it was bug free, a bit of polish based on feedback is always nice, it just shouldnt be necessary yeh

[uncut carbon]

wouldnt be pdx if they didnt

[drifting grove]

either A. the devs actually liked it. B. the paradox devs lied and threw them under the bus to save themselves. or C. pressured the devs into greenlighting it

[snow rain]

Feels like that with recent stellaris DLCs too

[uncut carbon]

imo the germany dlc

was also hot trash

[drifting grove]

SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

[uncut carbon]

austria came out broken and wasnt fixed until like 1.5 months in

[drifting grove]

GDR sucked, and im convinced the portraits are ai

[uncut carbon]

and rest of the trees were just very medicore to bad

[uncut carbon]

i am too

[drifting grove]

like lumpy hitler

with shitty TNO-bait tier content that breaks everything

[uncut carbon]

the RK's breaking borders

[snow rain]

Focuses were good, special projects are unnecessary
At least it has few bugs but it completely threw game balance in the dumpster

[drifting grove]

in a "ww2 historical" game, the soviets CANNOT PUSH THE GERMANS OUT in multiplayer, they completely threw out history

every DLC feature (minus 1) has been broken, and makes the game less historical

[uncut carbon]

only germany's was 'sorta good'

belgium austria congo were all horrible

hungary was a mix between sorta ok and meh

austria is the most boring nation oat all you do is somehow puppet everyone

[snow rain]

They broke balance all the way back with MIOs since not everyone has the op ones
Soviets are boned whatever the mp game now

[drifting grove]

the only country i played was Germany, and i didnt care to do the rest

[uncut carbon]

'hey would u like to be my puppet serbia?' 'oh yes we would thank you'

idk about the whole mp scenario cuz i dont play it

but the dlcs have been horrible

[drifting grove]

hoi4 MP has always been dogshit, but it gets worse daily

[uncut carbon]

and out of protest i will not buy it unless its AMAZING

unless pdx somehow drops the best dlc in history of pdx

i will not be purchasing it

[drifting grove]

i ranked every negative EUV review as "helpful"

[snow rain]

I found austria to be a nice change to "blob everything"
Hungary's cool. It has more content and simple one as well
Ger is cool but op
Congo is a meme
Belgium is ok

[drifting grove]

just to send a message

[uncut carbon]

i think we share an opinion but im just a bit stricter on what i consider to be 'meh'

[snow rain]

No wrong in that

[uncut carbon]

i have never played a game of mp in my 1.7k hours

and i dont plan on starting

[coral gorge]

last second

[drifting grove]

i used, it sucked ass

with everything in hoi4, the least historical options are always the most borken

[shadow mango]

https://youtu.be/PQe2NcxZDpE?si=y4TTRDmWPpShgGH0

This video had always been so fun to watch

[trail vigil]

hoi4 mp be like: i think ill do a ummmm... mass mob build and ill ummm.... battleplan until they run out of equipment

[heavy vigil]

battleplan builds are vicious, you dont have to be out of equipment to lose to them

[green plume]

is germany like IMPOSSIBLE to be naval invaded with max engineer company and loads of coastal forts along the D-DAY line?

with Axis air superiority

[shadow mango]

Well depends

Im guess8ng

[winged field]

From experience even with all you might get landed anyway

[green plume]

how tho?

[winged field]

So just keep one of your offensive armies around france just in case

[trail vigil]

they're so cringe this is why im never playing vanilla again

[winged field]

Ai being ai

[green plume]

got like 3 field marshals on the ENTIRE french coast

around 360 divs

16 width

NO ATTRITION SUPRISINGLY

[shadow mango]

💀

[green plume]

getting invaded?

HELL NAH

[shadow mango]

Allies seeing this :

[green plume]

ive done 2 mil casualties to america theyve done 18K

[winged field]

tbh with these many divs you might not get invaded

[shadow mango]

How mamy

Many men even is this

[green plume]

america isnt happy

k i was close

[shadow mango]

How many guys does 1 batalion consist of

[winged field]

they landed in itally... gg

[shadow mango]

How did u lose so many to the sovs

[green plume]

they being in italy means nothing bro i pre-landforted the shit out of the alps

they aint touching my fat ass

ALL GREENS

september 1945 rn btw

[shadow mango]

[winged field]

fairs

[green plume]

slowly marching into ussr's ass

[winged field]

I just invade italy before all that cuz they suck so much

[green plume]

bro theyre so ASS

why is italy ai so shit

[shadow mango]

How many soviet casualties

[winged field]

cuz they have bad teamplates from start

[green plume]

japan got angy at em

[shadow mango]

😆

How did they survive

[green plume]

japan getting boned

[shadow mango]

Barbarosa tho

[green plume]

yeah im relaxing

building my supply lines rn

having a fun time

[shadow mango]

Thatd be heaven

For soldiering the front lines

Just relaxing

🥰

[green plume]

how u feel bout this

[shadow mango]

Then he gets ordered to charge at the enemies

[shadow mango]

🤤

[green plume]

bro i play so weird in MP

when i do play it

i love allying with USSR

it pisses the whole lobby off

and re-take africa

[shadow mango]

😂

[green plume]

paratooper the shit out of UK

its funny

idek how china is in finland but soviets made the allies mad

is this fire?

[shadow mango]

😭😭😭

[shadow mango]

What time is it

For you

[green plume]

7 AM

been up all night

[shadow mango]

Yea go to bed

[green plume]

bout to

[shadow mango]

[green plume]

my eyes hurt

gn chat

[shadow mango]

Goodnight jizzy

[runic wraith]

guys i got 71 hrs on the game, how long before i capitulate the allies?

[shadow mango]

Wdym

[hot patrol]

Y'all aren't ready for this peak

[meager valley]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobs-squarepants-plankton-yes-come-to-papa-gif-17449566

[meager valley]

1000

[green plume]

What’s the best doctrine for the US

[runic wraith]

can yall rate my div?

[tepid crown]

Grand battle plan currently

[green plume]

GBP goated I see

[heavy vigil]

most mods buff it

[tepid crown]

Battleplan build my beloved

[ornate kestrel]

Lights are worst tanks in game

[hot patrol]

what year is this

[ornate kestrel]

Mech is amazing tho

[runic wraith]

1937

[hot patrol]

just get 8 mediums and 8 mechs

[runic wraith]

other are expensive

[runic wraith]

ok

[ornate kestrel]

It’s 2025 dumbass

[hot patrol]

make a medium tank template in 1938

[tepid crown]

You have dlc

[runic wraith]

no

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-fr-babby-baby-babby-oriental-oriental-shorthair-gif-25742308

[runic wraith]

i dont

[hot patrol]

oh

[tepid crown]

Ok, tanks sucks without dlc, I’d advice against using them

[hot patrol]

just get mediums it should be fine

yeah

[runic wraith]

oh ok

[hot patrol]

also that analogue horror is so ahh

this is peakk

[runic wraith]

im gonna go with the temp i have rn cuz it would be super annoying to change the research thing and reinforce them. gonna try mediums in the next playthrough

what about my inf?

[ornate kestrel]

It’s alright

So you have the industry to maintain line artillery

[runic wraith]

yeah

[ornate kestrel]

Than it’s fine

[runic wraith]

i have a lot of guns but not enough tanks

wtff

everything is supplied ig

[hot patrol]

it'll train with most of the equipment

[tepid crown]

Take out the line artillery

[hot patrol]

line arty is kinda meh

[runic wraith]

i saw a yt vid saying its good

[runic wraith]

what do i use instead

[hot patrol]

i personally like a 32 width pure infantry for atttacking and an 18 width for holding

[tepid crown]

Regular infantry outperforms artillery and its significantly cheaper/lower combat width

For defense infantry 16w, offensive 36w

[runic wraith]

oh ok

[lost parcel]

barbarossa

[drowsy bronze]

seeing this knowing when the units from the 10 failed german naval invasions get back, poland is cooked

nvm poland has more divs than the damn soviets in 1942 💀

[lost parcel]

why does italy do this

[hot patrol]

what

[lost parcel]

they're in bad relationswith all their neighbours

[tulip ermine]

is mass assualt any good for usa

[still loom]

Hot take: Field Hospital is actually underrated

Change my mind

[tulip ermine]

i never have used field hospital in my life

kinda just throw troops in

[hot patrol]

so is germany

they're facist

noone likes em

[lost parcel]

well, in this case its italy not liking anyone

[hearty otter]

yo chat if i make a frontline against some country and a border with another country appears, how do i add that other border to my fronline? when i try it makes a weird line but no divisions actually head there

[lost parcel]

redraw the frontlines or update the existing one

[hearty otter]

isnt that just for manpower

[hearty otter]

what i mean is, imagine im germany i declare on poland i draw fronts with poland and the french come pushing into me, i wanna add a border south west but when i try it does the stupid line

[hollow narwhal]

hmmmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

demand indochina

lol

[lost parcel]

split your army into 2 and draw a frontline for each of them

[hearty otter]

thats the only way?

[lost parcel]

from what i know yea

[hearty otter]

so like press the leader, press S and draw another border just for them

[lost parcel]

yea

how does ussr manage to go to war with all of europe

you know how hard it is to make democratic and fascist countries and monarchist countries unite

[severe fossil]

same

[severe fossil]

Republic of Poland rahhhh

[spring vale]

is this tradeoff worth or nah

shitty armor and infantry for cracked spec ops

[lost parcel]

depends if you are building up armor and special forces

[spring vale]

minmaxed

[spring vale]

im a south american nation so yeah

[lost parcel]

if you were mainly using infantry then id say you chose the wrong option

[spring vale]

why

[heavy vigil]

as opposed to?

i wouldnt take the unit design costs over attack

the training time and xp gain are busted

the special forces attack is busted

the armor buff is also OP

[spring vale]

my special forces are all composed of yujiro hanmas

[heavy vigil]

but a bit less

[spring vale]

death korps of krieg route wouldve been fun but i have no mp

[spring vale]

yeah lapaz folded in 48 hours

i mean

its lapaz so its not a flex

[heavy vigil]

the ai got 8 research slots

damn

[patent thistle]

i found a way to aviod these becoming the crap AI designs

UK might be a little late to disvow apeasement

i am also refitting the scharnhorst class ships

[cedar lance]

im gonna build a GRAND army and navy

[patent thistle]

i also have started refiting those

lul-

[neat kayak]

And this concludes Brazil

[cedar lance]

im gonna build ALL of the ship types

[opal nymph]

I dont think you can unless you play kaiserreich. You either dont have panzerschiffs or you dont have coastal defense ships

[patent thistle]

good luck with getting panzerships as a ship class

[cedar lance]

alr

[patent thistle]

many nations get coastal defense ships, the main issue is the panzerschiffe

only germany has those

[opal nymph]

Also wait until DLC comes out for Escort Carriers

[cedar lance]

escort carriers already exist in hoi4

[patent thistle]

. did i hear that right? ESCORT CARRIERS?

[patent thistle]

in technicality yes, converted Cruisers

[opal nymph]

I think they hinted at them

[neat kayak]

I am gonna play some kaiserredux

[opal nymph]

When they first discussed naval changes

[shadow mango]

How

[patent thistle]

in practically no, they are still counted under the same carrier class as normal ones

[opal nymph]

If escort carriers allow you to use carriers without capital ship escorts but at the cost of less planes, it would be epic

[blazing thicket]

Yes

[shadow mango]

Why does this happen

[patent thistle]

i would put them in the same area in battles as actual capital ships

[shadow mango]

[neat kayak]

You had russia as integrated puppet

[opal nymph]

Oh surely

[neat kayak]

which gives you more industry

once you annex them

the industry goes away

[shadow mango]

Okay

[neat kayak]

so you need to build compliance

to get it back

[opal nymph]

But I dont want to make 500 heavy cruisers/battleships

And everything in between

[shadow mango]

I thought its 100% complience when u annex a puppet

[neat kayak]

Nope

should i play kx or kr?

[cedar lance]

i will make a LOT LOADs of ALL ships

[patent thistle]

the mosquito fleet mod makes this UK so cursed

[opal nymph]

Neat

[patent thistle]

it litterally goes out of bounce

[cedar lance]

ill build enough dockyards

to build atleast ENOUGH ships

[opal nymph]

Theoretically, the minimum size for a fleet is 4 carriers, 4 battleships and, 24 screens

Though the moment a screen dies, your screening efficiency dies

[cedar lance]

alr

[opal nymph]

So more screens, the merrier

[cedar lance]

alr

i will build a LOT of the new SP carriers

and etc SP ships

[opal nymph]

SP?

[cedar lance]

Special projects

[opal nymph]

It would epic, but they take so long to get

[cedar lance]

alr

[heavy vigil]

opinions on 100+ carrier navies

i have 2 of them in my game rn but im not home

[opal nymph]

If only sortie efficiency wasn't a thing

[still loom]

https://tenor.com/view/u-boat-berkingus-ww2-germany-gif-24551716

[heavy vigil]

it isnt

above like 30

cuz you have 1 fighter 1 cas wing per carrier and they work just fine

[opal nymph]

I just know that when I have 5 carrier fleets, my 5th carrier never gains as much XP as the rest

[heavy vigil]

yeah

cuz you dont go above like 25-30 carirers

carriers*

everything between 5 and 25 is trash

you just like need more

[opal nymph]

So, you are saying 26 and above is fine

Or is it hot garbage instead

[heavy vigil]

no its fine

you just need a lot of carriers for it

[cedar lance]

also btw

they are adding more special projects to NCNS

ill utilise and use ALL SPECIAL PROJECTS

[opal nymph]

I sure hope so. Dont want another intel agency scenario where they forget about it

[cedar lance]

alr

i do wanna add my own modded SPECIAL PROJECTs

like super and nuclear carriers

[opal nymph]

Nuclear carriers exist though

Put a nuclear engine on a carrier

[cedar lance]

alr

ill also add aswell as NEW MBT tanks and modern tanks afvs ifvs and apcs

[trail nymph]

damn

random AI lend lease moment

[patent thistle]

and my fleet isnt even done yet

[tepid crown]

"Germany isnt broken" excuse my bad production lines, was proving to some dude germany has better eco than usa currently

[patent thistle]

MASSIVE W

[opal nymph]

Average new player who uses MEFO bills to build civs (0 bonuses)

It isnt broken

[patent thistle]

there goes a UK taskforce

a little reminder those arent even finished yet

[fossil dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clap-slow-clap-good-job-nice-one-gif-15897348731402158760

[tepid crown]

dude told me efficiency cap doesnt matter, output is better pretty much, funny enough though, germany also has a higher output, dependant on which tech each uses though, usually US goes dispersed

[heavy vigil]

nah you dont understand

its worse if you build civs until 38

[drowsy bronze]

ts pmo

[tepid crown]

lmao, I built mils til mid 38, then refs, then mils again

[drowsy bronze]

entirety of the americas off limits now

im NOT fighting alat

[heavy vigil]

✅

[neat kayak]

How do i annex these guys?

[opal nymph]

Would you rather produce more or have free factory from out of nowhere basically that also produces more

[opal nymph]

Through conflict in about a month

[neat kayak]

Thanks

[opal nymph]

Maybe in a very rare dice roll they accept

[tepid crown]

Im convinced people dont even play the game and just say what historically happened

[neat kayak]

Is this worth accepting?

tbh it's not that bad

they put me bac CE

bruh

[random needle]

Should I get arms against tyranny or grave yard of empires?

[tepid crown]

Arms against tyranny is significantly better

[random needle]

Alright

What’s in it

Besides Nordic focus trees

[viscid stirrup]

sure up

[random needle]

Alright I got arms against tyranny

[tepid crown]

Finland/winter war, sweden, norway, denmark, military industrial organizations (big feature!!!), international market (just meh), goe just has focus trees, thats it

[sick vector]

Chat i feel silly

Suggest a country to play

[snow rain]

me when fighting 200 v 40 odds

[snow rain]

very good focus trees (lots of fun paths too)
international Market (very good mechanic, you'll use quite often tbf)
Special forces doctrines (this is huge, you don't have to build tanks to push anymore as special forces are now very good with this)
MIOs (very fun, adds a lot of depth even though often unbalanced)

Graveyard of empires is just plain bad
focuses are meh at best,
mechanics are botched or just plain annoying
most irak and afghanistan are just not fun to play with regardless
the DLc's loaded with bugs, things not working as intended, localization issues and a bunch of other crap even months after release

[random needle]

What is MIO

[snow rain]

it replaces the base game "designers" that give research speed buffs to equipment (those you pay 150pp for)

[drifting oracle]

how do i push
i have green cas and anti air on my template but its impossible to push

[random needle]

Ok thx

[random needle]

You playing as France?

[tepid crown]

what other dlc do you have

[drifting oracle]

yus

[random needle]

Everything else

Besides grave yard of empire

And the new one

[tepid crown]

ok yea, arms against tyranny has the last major feature until the dlc later this week

[random needle]

Let’s go

[true needle]

can't beat france as germany
can somehow unify most of south america as peru with a -15% attack debuff as well as invade europe in the middle of barbarossa

[tepid crown]

graveyard of empires is just focus trees, and theyre not very good either

[random needle]

Alright !

What has the best tree in arms against tyranny

Or like has some fun paths

[tepid crown]

plus you also get all the historical focuses for those countries so its not like its super important

[honest night]

Try the winter war as Finland

[tepid crown]

For the dlc countries, Finland is fun

[random needle]

Will do

[snow rain]

finland's OP but I find denmark quite funky to play with

[random needle]

Alright

[true needle]

I appear to be a master at failing basic stuff but give me some stupid niche thing and i'll lock tf in

I think I might do byzantine greece next

[true root]

crazy game

[regal heron]

If you can beat belgium and Netherlands it should be pretty easy

[regal heron]

Shouldnt it be easier since germany have 2 fronts ,but they are should win if were talking historical

[drifting oracle]

3 actually

lithuania declined germanys demand

been few months now

[regal heron]

Yea you should win,just take bigger part so you have enough point to annex them in peace confrence

[tacit crane]

what is your template

[unkempt zodiac]

WHY IS GERMANY LETTING ME CAP VICHY FRANCE LOL

[celest dirge]

Okay, it is just me or hoi4 mod alt his mod seem quite lacking? It either what if WWI/II... or Heart of Parody.

[unkempt orchid]

My mod is what if Germany and Russia won ww1 🙂

[slim nexus]

Equestria at war

[snow rain]

sorry to say that but honestly I think there's better potential than wacky "what if ww1" mods
that's my rant, whatever. I wish you luck with it

[unkempt orchid]

I got a fun concept

and wanted to try to make it

already done map and so etc

so yeah

[icy crescent]

Don't let other people demoralizing you on being creative.
Go for it, mate.

[celest dirge]

I am quite surprised that for very long time, Millennium dawn is only playable modern day mod, same with cold war.

[ivory hull]

novum vexillum?

[unkempt orchid]

I am

[celest dirge]

Okay, that mod is simplified Millennium Dawn.

[ivory hull]

what about tfr

[celest dirge]

Oh, i should have say before TFR, but really, something like TFR should apear much sooner

[wet plover]

Should I even finish my Germany game, it’s 1946 and I’m at war with the Chinese United Front after they declared on me in like 43. Japan is also at war the rest of the axis for whatever reason

Debating finishing the game or just ending it here, I’ve defeated the allies and Comintern already

[celest dirge]

There is one original mod that is Pax Britannia. But we really need more TFR or PB mod.

[unkempt orchid]

Yeah like what?

[random needle]

Lowkey the best paths for Poland is either communist or monarchist

[ripe slate]

Theyre mainly good with tech, and by the time you unlocked that tech, Id already be done with my playthrough

[thick compass]

Hello

[ripe slate]

Welcome NCC

[tepid crown]

It’s not, it’s one of if not the best support companies

[random needle]

We need Africa focuses

Liberia needs one

And paths for breakaway states n stuff

[celest dirge]

Anything you can think of, how about what if 7 years war set up another order in Europe?

[unkempt orchid]

Yeah I will probably just finish my mod tbh

[remote quarry]

#1 illusion people have

usa have a huge industry

[runic wraith]

i want

[remote quarry]

you know why bogs time lock giant awakes🤣

[runic wraith]

to see the whole world conquered by germany

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-interest-ah-no-meme-there-is-nothing-left-in-the-fridge-gif-6864320397330927859

[runic wraith]

but im a beginner so i cant accomplish that

[tepid crown]

Throwing allied games

[true needle]

the invasion has begun

[north spoke]

"playable"

[runic wraith]

wtf is british raj doing in yemen

[plucky sedge]

they own it from game start

[bronze mango]

They owned it historical for a bit

[wet plover]

Final map

[amber solstice]

Guys? shuld i be wordied?

[idle spoke]

What would be the best template ever (if it has a tank with your designs)?

[runic wraith]

..why?

[plucky sedge]

because its historical

[runic wraith]

why did they own it irl then

[plucky sedge]

yes

[mild yarrow]

the fire rises?

[plucky sedge]

aden was administered from the raj until 1937

[cold plank]

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-order-klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-parody-r-u-ready-4-ze-new-world-order-gif-10007432617932751756

[celest dirge]

Oh, i should have say before TFR, but really, something like TFR should apear much sooner

[mild yarrow]

ig

[frank estuary]

Germany decided to randomly declare war on the USA in early 1939 (on historical), going to war with the Allies. 300k casualties from Poland alone, Germany is not it this game.

[runic wraith]

third try invaiding poland!

[heavy vigil]

the meta is to do poland after france to grind your generals :3

but you got this

[runic wraith]

im actualy making progress for the first time

they look so desprate with the last stand lol

yooooo i did it

[barren depot]

if i instal a spies mod and i dont own la ressitance will i get the content

i really want la ressitance ong

[deep solstice]

as if this run wasnt fried enough

the portuguese republic

in axis

the allies are so fried 😭

I just naval invading the UK

proud day to be japan

[runic wraith]

my thirdd playthrough as germany EVER is going great

[cold plank]

I want to try to play hoi 4 and I don't fully understand what is the difference between historical and non historical mode. So on historical mod countries do whatever they did irl, and then if the player does something not historical ai starts to change to non historical too?

[deep solstice]

good progress for may 39

[celest dirge]

no, they will follow historical path no matter what.

[deep solstice]

take france n poland before 40 and you should be on course for sea lion

[deep solstice]

non historical just means that the nations are not required to stick to what actually happened in WWII

like the soviet union could declare on belgium or smth

or germany could go to war with japan

[cold plank]

@celest dirge @deep solstice thanks now i understand that

[wet plover]

How do I send my volunteers home, spains incompetence basically doomed them and I wanna bring my tanks back home

For some reason it won’t let me

[wraith mauve]

The ai is just pulling manpower out there ass bro

[deep solstice]

silly silly britain

[tulip thorn]

You cant recall vols

You need a mod for that

[valid solar]

How do you give country’s states useing commands

[tulip thorn]

setowner country tag

You must also highlight a state to do so

[heavy vigil]

no

they do change if player changes

you can set the game presets to force them to be historical

[runic wraith]

1939 barbarosa?

[deep solstice]

the mighty japanese blade will cut through the democratic fires of Britain

[tulip thorn]

With how that army is organized

and low manpower

I dont see it going well

Are you still on limited lol

[heavy vigil]

thats a lot

i could do barb with sub 30K casualties

[dense sky]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XJmmim0AHOA

[tulip thorn]

Thats something you could do

Not what they can

[heavy vigil]

they could do it if they locked in

[ornate marlin]

naval bombers are an easy way to cheese the royal navy

[heavy vigil]

there was this guy yesterday

[ornate marlin]

sometimes uk pulls its whole navy out the channel

[heavy vigil]

couldnt push china as japan in sheeps

tried again with some tips

100K+ casualties and stalled mid china in 38

then i like told him how to get stats on stream and he did a november 37 cap with like 50K losses

like you just gotta lock in and you can do these cool epic things

[deep solstice]

what even is "Factory output" in service by requirement

im about to step up my conscription, but what does that actually even mean

military factory output?

civilian output?

[tulip thorn]

It lowers factory output by 10%

[heavy vigil]

yes

[deep solstice]

ah

damn im already in a gun defecit

[heavy vigil]

civvies are construction speed

[deep solstice]

(per day, I have 50k in storage)

[heavy vigil]

id teach you japan but im not home rn

[deep solstice]

im sure itll be fine

[deep solstice]

we've basically already won tbh

[stray adder]

guys i think the yellow river has blown

[tulip thorn]

are you sure

[heavy vigil]

but you could be better fr

[static river]

yellow river bouta blow

[deep solstice]

supa japan 🔥

[stray adder]

everytime i unpause it spawn even more

[static river]

theyre still blowing yellow river

[heavy vigil]

thats like the places youre supposed to take indeed

no annexing china hurts

[tulip thorn]

Im not convinced that the yellow river is blown

[heavy vigil]

yes

[deep solstice]

yay im getting my manpower back

[heavy vigil]

dont do ezd cheat

itll mess up your game bad when unpausing

[deep solstice]

i was at 80k manpower I lowk had no choice

[stray adder]

oh god my saves probably corrupted

[heavy vigil]

always stay paused during it

its not

[stray adder]

what

[heavy vigil]

you turned on a command

[stray adder]

no i havent

[heavy vigil]

just reload to the autosave

youll be fine

[stray adder]

ok

now im invading russia again

[copper sluice]

how do I make carlist spain get cores on their nations lol

[tulip thorn]

Like on their land?

Yeah after the spanish civil war every single side has to re core alot of land

[copper sluice]

I am playing france and I want to unify

last game I played I got a war goal on all spanish parties but idk how I did that

[tulip thorn]

Intervention in spain

Its a focus

[copper sluice]

and then this will give me a war goal?

[heavy vigil]

on everyone but the carlists

you need the carlists to win

so you need to make sure they rise up

[copper sluice]

yea I got that far but I dont want to wait for them to core everything

[heavy vigil]

you just need them to have all the land iirc

[copper sluice]

oh

yea

well it doesnt say so in the focus description

[serene inlet]

will next dlc allow to actually play spf german empire and have fun

[tepid crown]

Maybe

Depending on how doctrines will look

[heavy vigil]

probably broken strong

but maybe good devs?

[tepid crown]

Unfortunately probably true

[heavy vigil]

its possible?

[heavy vigil]

for axis* sorry

since a lot of the uh special xp is based on army size + combat

[tepid crown]

Even more likely to be true

[heavy vigil]

the poor allies

all are like small armies

[tepid crown]

They’re going to have to give USA and UK some good stuff in their upcoming dlc to make up for how much better the axis currently will be

[heavy vigil]

meh

[heavy vigil]

tbh the community and devs are more snd more focused on sp ahist

so its like

[copper sluice]

I wish france would get a newer focus tree

[heavy vigil]

i get it yk

but it sucks for balancing multiplayer games on hist

[tepid crown]

Which is incredibly unfortunate for a ww2 game

[neat kayak]

Portugal got saved by india out of all countries

[heavy vigil]

i think its an overall positive for the community

given the type of people historical-only attracts

but its unfortunate for the people who wish to play that yes

thats just my opinion though

[tepid crown]

Just curious to see what they’re going to do with USA next main dlc, not confirmed but highly likely that’s what’ll be

[heavy vigil]

i mean itd make sense

japan then usa + mexico and central america

maybe cuba

thatd be a lot of countries

or like canada + usa + mexico

canada is kinda bad rn

not ad bad as saf tho

[dusky burrow]

Makes sense honestly

[tepid crown]

Can see them doing something like that, maybe have Canada in a UK country pack later or something

[neat kayak]

Jokes aside

india is super fun in kr

more fun than in vanilla

[heavy vigil]

i have no info you dont have im just guessing things that would make sense within their marketting plan etc

and itd be great publicity to first give content to asia (which is a lot of the community ofc) and then follow it up with US content (which the english community yearns for)

[tepid crown]

Oh I know, all it is is speculation. US isn’t guaranteed to be next either

[heavy vigil]

and then maybe like it dies down a bit with a uk/commonwealth ish update

but like thatd probably be the best PR for 2 years

gotterdammerung was also just PR not really "necessary" so to say

but its cool to get

[tepid crown]

Also thinking about what other features they could add in future dlc

[heavy vigil]

theres a lot if you want realism

but thats usually what they spend a lot of time on

adding things without making it too comex

complex*

[neat kayak]

Tbh hoi4 is going in a good direction

if we won't have another goe

[heavy vigil]

if theres 1 thing paradox is good at its long term development

look at stellaris

[neat kayak]

I never played it

[tepid crown]

Tbf everything is complex for someone just showing up, looks like NCNS may be one of their more complex dlc in a while too

[heavy vigil]

it has way too many dlcs but its a beautiful game

[neat kayak]

but it looks damn good

[deep solstice]

fart krieg

oh my god

[heavy vigil]

if they can limit hoi4 dlcs (which theyve been doing by making them free) and keep the engine workable/functional for development it should be fine

[heavy vigil]

its not hoi3 complexity

its a hard thing to balance

[simple citrus]

ammm

guys i uh

[tepid crown]

True, none of their new games are as complex as their old ones

[simple citrus]

i think germans aren't in a position for vienna awards

[heavy vigil]

i think if hoi4 stays popular it could be kind of like stellaris

development wise

a lot of reworks over time

which like some people really seem to dislike they demand a new game

but its not that bad to not release a new game either since youre not losing a playerbase

or forcing people to "rebuy"

and since hoi is their most popular title i think thats the approach they want to take?

devs have said before theyve always been most proud of stellaris over other games

so i could see the mix of those two kind of concepts

but also idk thats just like psychological assumptions/predictions/readings

could be entirely wrong

[candid pecan]

rate the borders

civil war in italian yugoslavia

random land in poland

• unconnected land in bulgaria

[static river]

mamma mia

[dusky burrow]

true

[dusky burrow]

italian national anthem realized

okay you need savoy and ticino but other than that

[deep solstice]

me and the big adolf js chillin fr

this is me fr

this is the big adolf

we are one happy family and italy is our child

bro the german reich was jewwing me out of all my land

but he let me get mainland england

so im happy abt that

I basically got all of southeast asia + canada

and adolf got all of europe, asia, and africa

the US has no idea whats about to hit them 😭

YES im taking the phillipines AND your homeland

nice

im kinda just praying axis doesnt declare on me

although I really doubt they would

[hot patrol]

hoi4 mods man

[candid pecan]

i fixed up the borders

[dire hornet]

thanks bub****

[warped flint]

is this reasonable

[barren depot]

can anyone please gift me la ressistance

i beg

[devout trench]

[candid pecan]

how do u get that little part of vichy france

cuz ive seen italy do it before

also i need tunisia

[sudden thistle]

Control it before Vichy forms

[candid pecan]

oh

[dim hazel]

i just defeated germany as the ussr now how do i invade japan correctly

[drowsy sleet]

who pinged

[candid pecan]

nuke them

[tropic copper]

Where's that expose video

[dim hazel]

its 1944 bro 😭

[drowsy sleet]

hi zimmie

fun seeing you here

[tropic copper]

Okay but where's the expose video

[humble spruce]

chat, is uplift rosenberg office worth it

[drowsy sleet]

youll see

anyways if youd excuse me il go play hoi4 now

[azure dagger]

Guys would there be a sale when the new DLC comes out?

I need to get battle for Bosporus

[dim hazel]

so guys it is 1944 i am the soviet union and i took all of eastern europe as a puppet after defeating germany with the allies i make 2000 guns a day what next do i invade japan

[silver mauve]

I haven’t planned on making one

I was gonna leave the drama alone

[sudden thistle]

So?