hoi4-general

[remote quarry]

just put your cursor over it and you see

[candid pecan]

bro

how can i be able to afford things

[remote quarry]

by being good

[candid pecan]

uh

what

[remote quarry]

and understanding that production takes time

[maiden dagger]

Building a economy

[remote quarry]

as I said, you can probably afford like 10 tanks

[heavy vigil]

make mils

do eco research

[remote quarry]

since you train them in the field you will lose a huge proportion of them from attrition

so probably like 8 at least

[warped flint]

As germany you can have 24 tanks by war start

[heavy vigil]

bad tanks

yes

or 10 good tanks

[warped flint]

No?

[torpid aspen]

qq guys

[warped flint]

36 width

I did it once

[heavy vigil]

mediums

[warped flint]

Yes

mediums

[heavy vigil]

yes 10 good heavies or 24 bad mediums

[bright arrow]

For example those generals that give +15% inf def and +10% inf attack when in the army advisors

[warped flint]

mediums arent bad

[bright arrow]

Does that count for the militia?

[remote quarry]

yes

[heavy vigil]

theyre situationally good

heavies are good in more situations

[sudden thistle]

I got 14 good heavies last time with shitty inner circle (I forgot to build air)

Forgot to reply damn

[warped flint]

I never do heavys

[sudden thistle]

Why not

[warped flint]

there to expensive and the stat difference is just to little for me to care

[sudden thistle]

Clearly haven’t made them right

lol

[dusky burrow]

yeah they benefit

[torpid aspen]

guys who can play normally?

[sudden thistle]

What does that mean

[maiden dagger]

yes

[bright arrow]

Awesome, my Austrian militia army will reign, i will take mass assault for the memes

[warped flint]

How do you make them then

[dusky burrow]

I'm not sure if they benefit

They certainly don't benefit from the combat width reduction

[bright arrow]

I need manpower

[dusky burrow]

Of course extra manpower is always helpful though

[torpid aspen]

Who's good at playing HOI4? I'm a newbie.

[dusky burrow]

But for the unit itself I think best would be like GBP but idk

[bright arrow]

But mass assault screams human waves

[heavy vigil]

alongside a good general and FM

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[maiden dagger]

You need to take into account austrian terrain, most of the territory you have are made of hills or mountains (alps)

[dusky burrow]

well you do get a lot of humans in there

but you don't get that many casualties on mass assault

[heavy vigil]

mass assault is the best at conserving manpower and playing defensive so you should

[dusky burrow]

guerilla tactics for defense + having 22 inf in a division = low casualties

[dusky burrow]

but is it good for militia the question is

or would regular infantry be better here

[heavy vigil]

no

militias dont benefit from doctrine and just get inf stats

[warped flint]

I mean thats sorta obvious

[bright arrow]

So if best doctrine for mass militia wave would be?

As Austria

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's what I thought

[remote quarry]

I think the best option for austria is to go grand battleplan

manpower is indeed an issue

[maiden dagger]

I dont think any doctrine will benefit mass militia wave, the only pros for using militia is less training time

[remote quarry]

but you don't get mass mob early enough to address that

[dusky burrow]

of course militia could still be better as austria because of their sheer buffs even on mass mob, but yeah that's something i have to figure on my own

[remote quarry]

no

every generic modifier benefit militia

[remote quarry]

you would be at war when you have the doctrine, so you can just go up on conscription

the only issue is how you get manpower before the war

either try to go to war, or do a path that is not non-aligned(like communist)

[heavy vigil]

gbp doesnt buff specific units but rather your army

[maiden dagger]

the same as normal infantry

[heavy vigil]

through flat general buffs

[bright arrow]

Obvs communist austria

[heavy vigil]

its the most versatile for such builds

[remote quarry]

yeah, manpower shouldn't be an issue on communist

since you can go up on the laws before war

[bright arrow]

They get tons of militia buffs

[dusky burrow]

which doctrine is this btw

[remote quarry]

I think gbp

[candid pecan]

finally got a few to max equipment

[remote quarry]

yeah

make sure you put howitzer on the tank

whenever you have it

[bright arrow]

Why are you deploying them in STATE_54

[candid pecan]

yeah i just did

[candid pecan]

idk its a glitch

i get

[remote quarry]

now what might help you the most is to get the flame tank special project

you don't even need to produce it

just putting it in the template give you extra stats

also train your tanks to level 3

it would waste like 30% of your stockpile but gives you stats

(there's a more complicated way to directly get level 3 tanks)

[candid pecan]

already have it

how do i put it in

[maiden dagger]

Division designer, and support

[dusky burrow]

14 width gbp though?

[remote quarry]

you need to make a design of the flame tank

[remote quarry]

it's just the starting template

don't waste xp on making template

[candid pecan]

wait

do u mean flammpanzer

[remote quarry]

yeah

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[bright arrow]

mega mind ahhhhhh

[candid pecan]

what is happening

[eternal aspen]

Fuhrer Directive 25

March 27th, 1941
Yugoslavia was a member of the Tripartite pact, the alliance of mutual protection between Italy, Germany, and Japan, which is what most people call the Axis. On this date in specific Yugoslavia had abandoned it and this was hitler ordered his armies alongside the Italians, Hungarian, and I believe all Axis and Tripartite members to invade Yugoslavia for this abandonment of the alliance

[coarse willow]

i dont think the game wants you to support yemen in tfr 😭

[eternal aspen]

Just win, its that easy

[coarse willow]

japanese tanks and some yemeni miltia vs a human wave of iranians starving to death

who wins

BRO

THEY HAVE TOO MANY DIVS

i was doing so well 😭

yemen will be free another day

[serene inlet]

insane

[hot patrol]

might be worth sending to bittersteel

[eternal aspen]

Nah not yet

Ik how to hold

[zinc light]

bro u have 5 full armies of units

[eternal aspen]

Make a fallback line for your infantry on that major river right behind you

[zinc light]

where are they

[eternal aspen]

That isnt the issue

[hot patrol]

meh

[hot patrol]

meh

[eternal aspen]

Issue is they arent using a cohesive FM line

[hot patrol]

imma just map smth

[eternal aspen]

?

[hot patrol]

it was a doomed game to begin with

[eternal aspen]

Ngl dm me that save

[zinc light]

oh I see

[maiden dagger]

Weird, i never had that many units in Yemen

[eternal aspen]

I'll recover for you

[hot patrol]

mk

i have alot of mods

[eternal aspen]

Das fine

I have like 30 mods for achievments

Bc i aint playing pure vanilla anymore, that is so boring idek how people can enjoy it nowadays

[hot patrol]

yeah

i can barely stand vanilla states

kovas' is the way to go

[eternal aspen]

Bro vanilla states are JANK

Have you seen the spanish-french border on the Atlantic coast?

One province is completely messed up

[maiden dagger]

that one close to bilbao?

[eternal aspen]

Yea

[hot patrol]

i love having a randomly very detailed map at hand

[eternal aspen]

Its very prominent when Germany forms vochy

[zinc light]

fellow map enjoyer I see

[eternal aspen]

I hate this sm, only bc im modding a complete overhaul for Spain with extreme detail

#modding message here's my Iberia, its the full size of the map

[zinc light]

thanos-snapped Menorca out of existence

[eternal aspen]

?

[zinc light]

there's no Menorca on that map

[eternal aspen]

Nah, there is

[zinc light]

no..?

[eternal aspen]

Thats just not cropped good

[zinc light]

oh

[eternal aspen]

I've got from west Sahara border to Marseille

[neat kayak]

Is this k/d bad ?

[eternal aspen]

Thats terrific

Youre Latin america, right?

[neat kayak]

Yep

[eternal aspen]

Then yea

[neat kayak]

Going for Bad ending the whole world is now brazil

[eternal aspen]

Less than 500k died as people from your country

So less than 500k have died from your armies

[neat kayak]

i am doing modern tanks

[eternal aspen]

SSSR alone has lost 4.5 million men to you and you alone

[neat kayak]

to integrate to my armies

My mvps

[eternal aspen]

Shi

Yea that in modern are gonna slap

[neat kayak]

Second place

[eternal aspen]

I did a modern tank army as germany, made Leopards so strong than 1 bat in a div could break maginot

[neat kayak]

and it's only 1944

my game is moving like it's in a swamp

[bright arrow]

I got killed by commie Germany

[maiden dagger]

Seeing 400 divisions in 1944 is uncomfortable

[candid fern]

What’s navy and why do people say I need it?

[bright arrow]

They lie

[serene inlet]

boooo

[eternal aspen]

Vaser

[candid fern]

20 million bodies just send them into the meat grinder

[serene inlet]

X rank

[eternal aspen]

New dlc dropped?

[serene inlet]

modded

[eternal aspen]

Ah

When does the new dlc even come out?

[serene inlet]

not even a week

[dawn mango]

secret nation kaiserredux

https://tenor.com/view/boo-the-dog-fluffy-dog-paw-atention-gif-3670289397469127381

[eternal aspen]

Shit I was screwed up the past few days

Im excited for the new dlc content now

[candid fern]

Hoi5 would be better at this point

But the milking will continue

[eternal aspen]

Nah, hoi5 is gonna be hard to do

[candid fern]

I wanna be able to zoom in and see my division fighting 🤣

[eternal aspen]

Unless they do what pdx did for surviving mars, even then what can they change that won't be doable in hoi4

[dreamy moat]

agreeed

[wet plover]

So I’m at war with the Soviets in 45 as Germany

I have my tanks spread across the front, would it be better to focus them all on one area and put the infantry on defense

[eternal aspen]

Thats alr ingame

[eternal aspen]

Whats the template, and what's the frontline

Bc it matters a lot

[eternal aspen]

In settings, you should see "3D Units"

[eternal aspen]

Use mech infantry, and use those on specialized offensives

[candid fern]

Killing the Soviets in 45 is rough

[wet plover]

I focused on the allies first so that’s why

It is proving very difficult ye

[serene inlet]

the power of collectivism

[wet plover]

This good?

[serene inlet]

-100% consumer goods

[neat kayak]

A lill update

[eternal aspen]

I wouldnt be the best to ask, but yea it should work okay to hold frontlines

[candid fern]

I always find killing Britain early is way to easy. I try to keep it historical for the difficulty

[eternal aspen]

You dony need antitank against AI tho

Use AA

[candid fern]

UK doesn’t even defend its core territory 🤣

[wet plover]

I was so confused when I invaded them, I thought they’d rush in troops and the US would also help

Nope, took them out in like a month

[neat kayak]

Laughing with chonker

still in progress

[umbral agate]

Can i convert a normal tank to a Td

[eternal aspen]

Yes

If its the same chasis

[snow glacier]

here ya go just so you know the middle america is puppeted

im the USA in this

[neat kayak]

Waiting for the last collab , so these are the final stats

I am gonna steal the allies and the final showdown is coming

And yes you can win without airforce

[bright arrow]

If the US was in the allies i would say it would be a hard war, but like this seems you have the upper hand

[eternal aspen]

Ngl, hoi4 we should have the ability to withdraw and stand our armies, like i have 500 divs but I dont need them, I withdraw them and I get a debuff for attacking but defence I get a buff on cores only, to represent like the Swiss thing

[neat kayak]

I demolished the US in 1942

[leaden mulch]

I was thinking of doing that path earlier

[neat kayak]

It's a lot of fun

you get cores on all of S.A with one focus

no coring mechanic nothing

The hate on TOA is only bc of the price

the focuses are busted

I will end for tonight

it's almost 2 am and i have school today

[wraith mauve]

Trannys runied tno bro it’s sad

[sudden thistle]

Why use mech for offensive

[tardy marten]

What's going on with tno

[eternal aspen]

No, different things entirely

[sudden thistle]

Misread it mb

[eternal aspen]

Thats okay

[wet plover]

Finally got a good encirclement 🙏

[maiden gull]

Ah yes do I want to give my land to the country I'm fighting a civil war with

What do I say 🤔

[maiden gull]

In that same playthrough while screwing around with switching ideology my focus tree started to overlap

[eternal aspen]

You own the puppet tho?

Oh wait

No? Wtf

[maiden gull]

Yeah

[eternal aspen]

Im so stoned idk what im reading

[maiden gull]

That sounds like half the people I know that play hoi4

Can anyone also help me read through the scramble of focuses

[still loom]

Making expensive tank divs be like

[eternal aspen]

Basically, you cant do them

[atomic grove]

finally

(i cant do anything about the stability)

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[storm silo]

Did not know even as monarachist Russia can still get the take rome as the ussr achievement

[random maple]

why they release this dlc so late?

[tired reef]

moving to eu5 🙏

[fair horizon]

did you declare on them while fighting serbia?

[warped flint]

?

I didnt fight serbia

I just asked t hem to be my puppet

but it released all their puppets

[fair horizon]

ah i see

bad game ngl

[warped flint]

I just used consoles to make serbia annex them all

[odd sinew]

Rare photo of Italy winning in Africa and not getting naval invaded

[dusky burrow]

winning 😭

[dusky burrow]

yeah italy is not winning in africa until it gets anywhere near the Suez or wins navally in the Med

Neither of which is happening

[odd sinew]

It was contested in the Med, I had sent a decent ammount of my ships to the med while having enough to defend the coast

Here's a later photo of the same game

[dusky burrow]

Yeah see

Italy wasn't winning

[odd sinew]

They were for the first part of the war, should I send troops to help next time?

[warped flint]

I kinda wanna play as italy

[odd sinew]

I normally garrison their mainland coast with 5 infantry spots in the template (idk what its called 😭)

[misty fossil]

dont use that word its a slur

[odd sinew]

It helps defend the coast's from naval invasions and usually doesn't fail me

[misty fossil]

should i ping mods over this?

[odd sinew]

idk

[misty fossil]

eh someone can do it im not gonna be a minimod

[deep solstice]

I dont think ive ever seen my allies perform such a shitty job in the history of this game (ofc its my iron man run)

The soviet union is ABOUT to collapse and its 1942

NO naval invasions are being stopped by allied garrisons

the chinese are STILL losing even though we are picking up all the loose ends

and we have lost ALL of europe except british mainland to the axis powers

🥀

and the only reason we even HAVE africa?

me

america

💔

[odd sinew]

🥀

Historical?

[misty fossil]

welcome to post gottedammerung germany

soviets just cant win

[deep solstice]

june 1942

...

I give you lend leases

thousands of guns

tanks

mechanized

oil

and

and you do this

...

I send 8 tank divisions over

you let them get encircled

I hope you capitulate and we all die

🔥

[odd sinew]

my dream game as germany

[edgy trail]

i know it's not much but i'm still quite new :3

(i'm austria)

[deep solstice]

my nightmare game as the US

[odd sinew]

I main germany, I cant naval invade the UK for anything

[deep solstice]

good for nothing soviets

[deep solstice]

Its actually pretty easy if you just use paratroopers + marines

they've let like 10 of my tank divisions get encircled

god forbid the SOVIET UNION

DOESNT

HAVE A FULL FRONT OF TROOPS

[odd sinew]

I use marines in the northern sea from denmark or norway

[odd sinew]

😭

[deep solstice]

my only FULL iron man run ive EVER done btw

and these soviet commie dorks manage to somehow mess it up

go ahead

capitulate

[odd sinew]

I always play ironman mode unless im playing a mod

[odd sinew]

Compliance would end this before stalingrad

[deep solstice]

go ahead and let all of my tank divisions get encircled why dont you

had them pushed BACK OUT of mainland china btw

and the chinese just

somehow manage to mess it up

TWICE

ugh my god im so done with this

[edgy trail]

tbh i knew i'd get ignored lmao good night

[deep solstice]

silent admiration

[odd sinew]

Put most of your naval into the channel and mass naval invade

and bomb

[maiden dagger]

Its actually pretty good for a new player

[deep solstice]

if my allies are this bad im just giving up if they capitulate ngl

[odd sinew]

I would give up on the soviets, nuke japan for the auto peace deal mechanic

[deep solstice]

this is actually frying me

why are the soviets so f###### garbage

one shitty attritioned german division

is like hell on earth for them

stalin genuinely just blow yourself up

we need someone else in power

[odd sinew]

last game the soviets death stacked 10-20 divisions per tile on the polish front and forgot about the baltics

[deep solstice]

stalin

stalin

what

what are you doing dude

dude you have the most expendable manpower in the world

and your

your doing this

[odd sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-shit-whats-happening-whats-going-on-mother-of-god-dear-god-gif-16251359

[deep solstice]

what am i even looking at

and now he locks in

watch this

trust me

[odd sinew]

could I show you what I do as Germany in my runs in territory wise

[odd sinew]

true

[maiden dagger]

Sadly, you cant expect that much from Stalin

[deep solstice]

...

what

the

actual

language.

[odd sinew]

Stalin either is the best or sucks, no in between

[deep solstice]

you have. HALF the german divisions.

[odd sinew]

..

[deep solstice]

you SUCK stalin

you are a useless sack of oil and iron for the german reich

and are no greater than an apprentice to the nazi party

I actually hate you

I have never been THIS mad at an AI leader 😭

[edgy trail]

rly?

[odd sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-joseph-stalin-ussr-cccp-looking-gif-14751347053864264949

[maiden dagger]

Most of the time, if Germany captures one of the big cities of Russia its over

[odd sinew]

I capute saint peterburg most of the time and have to push alot from there

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-stalin's-funeral-stalin-joseph-stalin-funeral-gif-17642081397710075776

[odd sinew]

I could show you what I do to steal land from the soviets really easily

[deep solstice]

this is why I dont play iron-man mode bro

[spring hedge]

stalin was the first ai

[maiden dagger]

yeah sure

[deep solstice]

im never doing this shit again

😭

[spring hedge]

is it ever worth producing light tanks bro

especially as italy

if u change the shitty design of course

[odd sinew]

Not really, I dont even produce tanks until 1938-1940 medium tanks (german main)

[maiden dagger]

Generally Leningrad is the first big city of Russia (not counting other republics cities like Kiev) that Germany captures and, at least in my saves, i didnt see USSR reverting the situation after the fall of Leningrad

I dont bother ally with them, its waste of time and resources

[odd sinew]

tbh my game lags out before I can cap the soviets, one run I annexed the soviet union by clicking a button 😭

[spring hedge]

also how badly do i need mountaineers to push french alps

[odd sinew]

Theres a glitch where you can just annex any country your allies with in germany if you go for the German Empire Path and achive some focus's

[maiden dagger]

A lot, Mountaineers, at least in my experience, should be your most valuable unit as Italy

[maiden dagger]

Didnt know about that

[odd sinew]

Yeah, you need a positive relation and I would recomend an non agression pact just in case

If they deny you can just delcare war on them

Its the integrated economics focus in the german focus tree, quite a far way down

Also as facist germany, you can delcare war on the baltics before the soviets annex them through the Expand Claims in the Baltics focus

[maiden dagger]

Oh, i know now, the Romania and Hungary integrated economies

[odd sinew]

gives you war goals in poland, lithuania, latvia, and estonia

[odd sinew]

yeah, its a neat bug i found

You could also do it as democratic germany (why would you ever go democratic as germany anyways)

[odd sinew]

@maiden dagger

[maiden dagger]

Probably because of the foreign focus

Democratic Germany is quite strong when it comes to alliance

[odd sinew]

True, its mostly just building up troops and countrys to take down the soviet union

And any facist country

[maiden dagger]

My only problem with democratic germany is that is basically a constitutional monarchy as far as i know, its not really a republic

[odd sinew]

hmm yeah, imo its still considered democratic with all the democratic popularity benefits it gets

[dreamy moat]

Guys I’m debating on waiting for HOI4 to go on sale or just buying the game now

Idk what to do

Like I don’t want to buy the game then get screwed over by the game going on sale tomorrow or something

[maiden dagger]

Why not waiting to go on sale?

[dreamy moat]

The game looks very fun

And I’m getting impatient honestly lol

I mean at the end of the day, id only save like $30

And you only live once.

But if there is a sale in like a week or something then I wouldn’t mind waiting

[dusky burrow]

My only problem with democratic united kingdom is that is basically a constitutional monarchy as far as i know, its not really a republic

[pearl stirrup]

i have

gotterdamerung
no step back
la resistance
man the guns

i main germany and my friends main soviets, italy and uk. any dlc items yall reccomend?

[pearl stirrup]

or do u reccomend i just buy all of em

[dreamy moat]

Did you buy these and the game on sale?

[pearl stirrup]

no

why is that?

i have a few hours on the game (200) but not much expirience in terms of dlcs

what dlc unlocks range improvements

[dreamy moat]

Just asking since I’m trying to see on if I should buy the game off of sale or on sale

[dreamy moat]

Would you say the game is worth it for the price tag off sale?

[broken pier]

How hard is it to do solo Germany

[sudden thistle]

Easy

[sudden thistle]

Clarify?

[broken pier]

reject everyone to join faction and annex every land you conquer

[sudden thistle]

Yeah that’s not really hard

[broken pier]

I'm quite pissed that AI Italy it's so dumb

[pearl stirrup]

depends if u have the patience. it is worth 40 bucks tho yh

[heavy vigil]

they have like a million ports and not enough mils to guard themselves even in MP

you have to help them a bit

[pearl stirrup]

the range improvement research thing. for aircraft, there is a dlc that lets u research it

[dreamy moat]

Do u get DLCS with the game or is it just base games

[sudden thistle]

Arms against tyranny?

[dreamy moat]

Game*

[pearl stirrup]

base

[sudden thistle]

I think that would an MIO (military industrial organization) that u are talking about

[heavy vigil]

id say that if your currency is weak you should probably wait until a sale anyway

[pearl stirrup]

what dlc lets u pick the mio

[heavy vigil]

but if its strong then its worth it

[dreamy moat]

My currency is the dollar bill lol I live in America

[heavy vigil]

you never know 🤷

[pearl stirrup]

ur profile worries me

[sudden thistle]

Arms against Tyranny

[pearl stirrup]

ty

[dreamy moat]

😭 I know many people get confused

[heavy vigil]

my goat (special forces doctrine 😍)

[pearl stirrup]

well, why is it like that ?

is it a joke or something

[dusky burrow]

i mean am i wrong

[dreamy moat]

I put Indonesian soldier because of a meme me and my friends were doing a while back

[pearl stirrup]

what abt ur pfp and everything else

indonesian soldier is the least of my worries

[dreamy moat]

Then have an Arabic name because I’m Bosnian and it was under ottoman rule

[pearl stirrup]

okay. what abt the pronouns?

[dreamy moat]

What about them?

[dusky burrow]

world conquest with special forces only

[heavy vigil]

he/hinm according to the role

[dusky burrow]

and you're not nepal

[pearl stirrup]

not the role part

the like discord part

[heavy vigil]

man cant wait to have 3 divisions

[pearl stirrup]

the one discord lets u choose

[heavy vigil]

i tried it in the germany run

you genuinely get like 3 18 widths

or 20 i forgot

its really sad

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[dreamy moat]

I’ve seen people put pagan/spawn in it and no one is scared of that

[heavy vigil]

maybe as like iraq idk

[edgy trail]

just played a bit more

[heavy vigil]

youd have triple doctrine

get like 5 units

[maiden dagger]

Maybe

[pearl stirrup]

im not scared. just concerned

[edgy trail]

is this good for 30 hours? lmao

[dreamy moat]

Why???

[pearl stirrup]

very controversial is all.

[dusky burrow]

ask for transylvania

[maiden dagger]

All roads lead to a naval invasion on UK

[pearl stirrup]

especially if you dont see a problem with it

[dreamy moat]

I’m confused

[dusky burrow]

You want to have at least these states as Austria

[edgy trail]

ughh i have to wait for the faction we are fighting to lose so i can ask for them in negotiations

[heavy vigil]

talking about jihad is like talking about crusades

theres been quite a lot

some very long ago

[dusky burrow]

Well Germany is occupying them so you can, well, again, ask

[pearl stirrup]

thats why people dont talk abt crusades

just cause an equivalent exists

[dreamy moat]

The jihad I’m talking about is the one against terrorist groups. I don’t endorse or promote idiots like 1$1$ or some other garbage

[edgy trail]

wait, sorry i'm still quite new, how would i do that ._.

[pearl stirrup]

thats even worse💀

[dreamy moat]

Fighting against terrorist groups is worse?

Now I’m concerned about you

[pearl stirrup]

i misread that my b

[edgy trail]

never mind found out

[sudden thistle]

Rip 😭

[pearl stirrup]

i read it as u not endorsing anti terrorism💀

[dreamy moat]

Bro what

My religion literally states that’s it’s good to fight against people of terrorism

[pearl stirrup]

as i said. i mis, read, that.

[dreamy moat]

If I had the option to choose between fighting a crusader and a khawarij (a terrorist) I’d easily choose the terrorist

[maiden dagger]

I think we already understand

Or not, i dont know

[dreamy moat]

I’m just explaining since I don’t want to cause a panic or something or make anyone concerned lol

I’m not here to cause a stir amongst people

[dusky burrow]

did you get it or no?

In any case here's how you do it for the rest of you, sorry my game loaded slowly

[pearl stirrup]

the amount of concerning things ive seen is immense, dont worry i wont start a stir over something thay dosent have anything to do with me, just felt the need to point out at the start that it was concerning

[edgy trail]

:DDD

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[dreamy moat]

Now you know what is meant in my profile

[edgy trail]

thxxx

[misty fossil]

thats a really small screen

[edgy trail]

shitty laptop lmao sry

[misty fossil]

what arr you using?

[edgy trail]

idk

[misty fossil]

you can check your system info...

[edgy trail]

this is the only thing that comes up og 🙏

cut me some slack

[misty fossil]

this one

im just interested

im not laughing at you?

[valid prairie]

best naval bomber design?

[silk gust]

Ai forgo to guarantee independence on Poland for some reason

[marsh ravine]

Maybe something to do with the fact you didnt kill czechs?

For some unknown reason

[silk gust]

Maybe

[marsh ravine]

You should kill tjem

Its literally free eco

Do kt once u cap poland tho or they demy

[silk gust]

I was just trolling since I wasnt going to try the game but it’s cool

[marsh ravine]

U have to be at peace for them to accept iirc

[silk gust]

lol

New Germany meta

[misty fossil]

brother censor your name

thats pretty decent though

[edgy trail]

acting like someones gonna use it against me

[misty fossil]

cpu is a bit iffy but that should be fine

real

[edgy trail]

"ur name is christian" okay?

[misty fossil]

lol

[silk gust]

Peace in our timeline ah

[leaden mulch]

F4 is aura fr

[silk gust]

Somehow I think not taking the Czechs broke the ai

Still not at war

[wraith mauve]

What yall think?

[misty fossil]

the lost art of taking a screenshot on your computer

[wraith mauve]

My computer is slow so it takes a while to open another app

Like discord

So I do it from phone

[misty fossil]

oh thats fair

lmao

[burnt vine]

Guys how many hours on Hoi4 y'all have?

[wraith mauve]

So what yall think of the template

[silk gust]

275

[misty fossil]

im not sure how line artillery works in tno but apparently they used to demolish everything

[misty fossil]

1034

[wraith mauve]

600

[leaden mulch]

not enough

1375 tho iirc

[misty fossil]

touch grass

[wraith mauve]

Idk guys should I use the template

[leaden mulch]

no

[burnt vine]

Completely normal for HoI4 player

[leaden mulch]

idk

[leaden mulch]

i have a life

[misty fossil]

is it true

[burnt vine]

I think it has kinda to much CW but IDK in this mode how the combat system works

[wraith mauve]

I’ll try Ita kazakstan

[leaden mulch]

maybe remove a field arty?

[wraith mauve]

Ok

And replace with inf or no

[leaden mulch]

no

35cw

[wraith mauve]

Ok

[misty fossil]

does tno change combat mechanics

TFR does

cw literally doesnt matter if its big enough in that mod

[wraith mauve]

How will I get 35 width it’s in increments of 2

[misty fossil]

36

[leaden mulch]

artillery is 3 width

[marsh ravine]

Or just don't lose hp and gun passives and do 36w

[wraith mauve]

I just unified Russia yall wanna see?

[wraith mauve]

So one artillery?

[leaden mulch]

either all inf and 36width or one arty and 35width

[wraith mauve]

Ok

Ty

[marsh ravine]

Or u do 1 aa so you dont need support aa

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346394602751524865/1385558583952936960/watermark.gif

[wraith mauve]

I have 178 mils it’s over for germany

Uhh when is 2nd west Russian war

[eternal aspen]

What the hell am I looking at

Is that the atlantik?

[eternal aspen]

I am too geeked yo understand what im looking at, why is there a print screen key?

[wraith mauve]

Wait ples dont tell me I need requillum to invade germany

[eternal aspen]

Huh?

We need context

[wraith mauve]

Tno

Im playing novosobirsk and I reunited Russia

[eternal aspen]

Oh, yea you do, or wait for ww3

[wraith mauve]

I have 2nd west Russian war mod in

[eternal aspen]

Which happens at 1973 iirc

[wraith mauve]

Ok

So I just wait till then

[eternal aspen]

Yea, you'll know when its happening

Thats the only time you can invade in base TNO

With req you can do it via flavour

[wraith mauve]

Blud

I need to wait more?

🙁

Wait

When can I invade kazakstan and reclaim Vladivostok

[eternal aspen]

Ww3

[wraith mauve]

Ok bet

[eternal aspen]

But you can help turkistan/kazakstan in their civil war on your respective side

[wraith mauve]

Ok thanks

[eternal aspen]

Idk if they join you or what

Ngl, i wish TNO wasn't so story based

It loses the multiplayer aspect very fast

[wraith mauve]

The story is amazing tho let’s be deadass

[eternal aspen]

Bc each nation requires so much micro youre basically sitting there for 5 hours just to get to the next major focus tree

[wraith mauve]

I just watch TikTok’s while waiting for focuses

[eternal aspen]

Oh hell yea, i love how each nazi successor state has their own complete lore and content, idk much of the ONF or GEACPS

[wraith mauve]

And waiting 7 years just to take Siberia

Ofn is kinda boring but geacps is decent

[tender plover]

but where is my boy phillipp?

[eternal aspen]

But like, KR/X, TGWR, and TNO i dony really like bc theyre so hardcoded you get almost no real way to have fun

Its either too deep in lore, or something to do with scripted peace deals even for the player if they didnt want it

[wraith mauve]

Tgwr?

[eternal aspen]

The great war redux

[wraith mauve]

Ah

[eternal aspen]

Unless you do good, you don't get anything from ww1

Like ottomans, unless you win, you aint getting your post-war victory content

[tender plover]

I feel so ignored😔

[eternal aspen]

Mb, wsp?

[wraith mauve]

Tuff

[tender plover]

I just asked about my boy phillipp, I was playing TFB with my friends today and made the british protectorate and phillipp just seemed like a silly little guy

[eternal aspen]

If i was smart, i'd be able to find your location with that wall

[tender plover]

Holy😍

[wraith mauve]

Loc?

Am I dumb

[tender plover]

immediately doxxed

[eternal aspen]

Nah I edited it to make more sense

[wraith mauve]

I am very strong

Huge industry large manpower reserves

We DON’T talk about that debt tho

[eternal aspen]

Debt? Debt isnt real

Debt is a fake concept, debt is value

[wraith mauve]

Almost 30b

[tender plover]

You dont owe people if they no longer exist

[wraith mauve]

Good point

Well

Debt is owed to myself🫩✌️

[eternal aspen]

Real af

[wraith mauve]

From manufacturing a huge stockpile

[eternal aspen]

Who is the USA in several trillions of debt to? Just give it to someone in Utah

[wraith mauve]

Can wait for multi roles

[tender plover]

Astram I need to know what the 'modding spain' of your username means

[eternal aspen]

#modding

[wraith mauve]

Then I can have more mils on one sent of planes

[tender plover]

government shutdown? give it to the russians

[eternal aspen]

Search for images from me im there

You'll see progress

[tender plover]

Alright Alright

I know you cooking something good up

[eternal aspen]

Oh yea I is

Its gonna be villainous

[wraith mauve]

Can tank penetrate 1500 defense? On one division

[tender plover]

That spain looks beautiful bro

[tender plover]

call up tommykay for the answer

[wraith mauve]

10b military expenditures

I am gonna punch germany

we will punish them

[tender plover]

Astram I went to off-topic and first thing I see is a guy named "prince of darkness" trying to ragebait you😭

[tender plover]

they're going to politely slap you back

[wraith mauve]

Wait if I kill them to quickly won’t they nuke world?

[tender plover]

99% sure that does happen

are you playing with the submod for the second west russian war or wtv its called?

[wraith mauve]

Ya

https://youtu.be/Q0rKWxfOb9E?si=64VnmEzeMLfIIryr

Very very tuff

Watch

[eternal aspen]

Yuh

[wraith mauve]

Russian airforce 2.7k planes German: unknown Russian nukes: 1 German: 131k

German army:700k Russian:2m

[neat kayak]

God i hate sleep

i have only 4 hours of sleep

time to finish this shi once and for all

[terse wigeon]

not as much as i hate yankees

https://tenor.com/view/jackson-sword-gods-and-generals-jackson-gif-27530123

[wraith mauve]

Uhh

Im American

U hate me?

How rude

[terse wigeon]

what state

[wraith mauve]

California but Im conservative

[terse wigeon]

i was just about to type california is the only state i cant forgive

😭

[wraith mauve]

I hate the leader of CA

[terse wigeon]

im not conservative

i just hate the north

and love the south

and have conservative values

[wraith mauve]

But let’s not get political beach’s di dont wanna get muted

[terse wigeon]

yeah

[wraith mauve]

Bro u libertarian?

[terse wigeon]

no

im just dixie

nothing else

[wraith mauve]

Cool

I DON’T know what that means

[terse wigeon]

ok so basically

[wraith mauve]

Confederate?

[terse wigeon]

in 1861 an anglo culture group declared independence from the united states (over controversial and debated reasons) and they lost the war so USA conquered them and now dixieland is an illegaly occupied land under the USA

but its technically legal and theyre all states

[wraith mauve]

I see

[terse wigeon]

and it was technically an illegal rebellion with a morally grey cause

[wraith mauve]

So this

[terse wigeon]

no

[wraith mauve]

Oh

[terse wigeon]

dixie is the name for southern culture

[wraith mauve]

Like Arkansas

[terse wigeon]

yeah

[wraith mauve]

I might be moving there deadass

[terse wigeon]

and alabama, missisippi, georgia, louisiana, texas, oaklahoma, florida, kentucky, tennesse, north carolina, south carolina, virginia, maryland, DC, delaware, and missouri

[wraith mauve]

U Christian?

[terse wigeon]

Baptist

[wraith mauve]

Cool

Whats that like

[terse wigeon]

idk

i used to be pagan

i converted

[wraith mauve]

Love it

Im Eastern Orthodox but was portastant

Protestant

[terse wigeon]

ive never heard of someone convert to eastern orthodox and not be born slavic

[wraith mauve]

Now I have

u

I just like god more than tradition

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[terse wigeon]

hey

[wraith mauve]

Hey

[cedar lance]

wassup

[terse wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717498714259980378/1359551476325941510/caption-4-1.gif

[wraith mauve]

Im sleep now cus it’s 10:30

[terse wigeon]

gn

[cedar lance]

7 days left till new dlc expansion comes out for hoi4

[wraith mauve]

Gn

[cedar lance]

im hyped

gn jace

[wraith mauve]

Whats it about

I must know before sleep

[cedar lance]

it adds new stuff

[wraith mauve]

Like

[terse wigeon]

im not as hyped cause i got All Under Heaven and EU5 this month but its still cool

[cedar lance]

like a new RANGER unit

and 2 new ship types

[terse wigeon]

is it the one that adds the factions revamp or was that already added its been a minute since i played

[cedar lance]

yes

[wraith mauve]

I am just hoping they DON’T Actually give Philippines a focus that will be dumb asf

[terse wigeon]

oh that will be peak

i was most excited for the factions revamp

out of anything else

[wraith mauve]

Ight Im Actully gonna sleep now Gn bye

[terse wigeon]

gn

[cedar lance]

im most hyped and excited bout the ranger unit and the 2 new ship types

[cedar lance]

gn jace

[neat kayak]

Can i bring the british down?

[atomic grove]

yes

[neat kayak]

I took them down in one month

[atomic grove]

if u can take down the americans and soviets then u can definitely kill the british

[neat kayak]

Only japan remains

and then the finnish faction

then final mopping up

and the achievement is mine

gg

[hot patrol]

The fat Germany is outdated btw

[hot patrol]

I'll send you my mods and the ironman later today

[radiant bone]

Romania and Turkey Byzantine achievement! raaahh! 19 greek divisions!

[toxic cypress]

make hungary bigger

[toxic cypress]

BIGGGGER

[winged field]

Hell yea

[median gull]

There any reason not to have a large amount of divisions in basic training at a time?

[toxic cypress]

ts still so funnyy

[median gull]

If a nation has a positive reputation of you will they still declare war?

[trim pike]

Yes

Reputation means nothing

Unless a focus or decision say so explicitly

[median gull]

Got it. So keep an eye on the French Empire as the German Junta

There any disadvantages to having large amounts of divisions in training?

[trim pike]

Not exactly

[toxic cypress]

top 10 schizo trees

[median gull]

Does slapping machine guns on CAS do anything?

[solemn bay]

What country should I play as in vanilla HOI4?

Anything BUT Tannu Tuva, Ethiopia, and sultanate of aussa

[limpid field]

they had to tell me twice

[leaden mulch]

no

[leaden mulch]

luxembourg

[limpid field]

forgotten nation

liberia

[leaden mulch]

guatemala

[leaden mulch]

actual talk japan or china

or iceland

iceland is peak

or poland secret bear path

[solemn bay]

Peak iceland gameplay

[half ravine]

choose 1939 start and play slovakia

[solemn bay]

https://tenor.com/view/aurora-borealis-aurora-borealis-skylight-night-gif-3494516894092626561

[solemn bay]

This is torture 😭

[leaden mulch]

another run for poland secret bear path

[solemn bay]

I've never played Japan so I think I'll go Japan

[leaden mulch]

fair

just remember the collab governments on china

[solemn bay]

No, we must push all the way into Chongqing!

[leaden mulch]

not even the main reason people do collab governments on china😭

you probably want to grind generals on china as long as possible in fact

100% compliance

+harsh quotas or something like that

i hardly ever play japan

[solemn bay]

Ah

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[leaden mulch]

hi

[cedar lance]

wassup cheese

[leaden mulch]

not much

hbu?

[cedar lance]

im good myself

7 days left to wait

till the new dlc expansion releases for hoi4

@leaden mulch

[leaden mulch]

true

can't wait to not update

let the modders figure out what to update

and also figure out navy meta through others gameplay rather than having to deal with allat

[cedar lance]

i do like the 2 new ship types and the NEW RANGER unit aswell

@leaden mulch

[dusky burrow]

wait there are two new ship types?

[leaden mulch]

I sleep now

It is already tomorrow

[leaden mulch]

Sounds cool tho

Excited for the new focus trees

Gonna let the new update sit for a sec tho

[merry bloom]

does anyone know if the steam machine or whatever it is will be good for hoi4?

[median gull]

Can you reassign ships to other task forces?

Or fleets

[merry bloom]

u gotta select the specific ones then move them to reserves then the fleet u want them in

[toxic cypress]

ts is painful

chile is so annoying to play as

at least im cooking

[median gull]

How do I move the reserves?

[merry bloom]

select the specific ships u want in reserves then make a new fleet with them then u can combine them with another fleet/task force

[cedar lance]

yes a repair ship and a better support ship

[toxic cypress]

please end this

finally

found the meta

[fallen loom]

what total overhual mods do you recommend?

[merry bloom]

RT56 and great war redux

[serene inlet]

why are you chili and ur fighting argentina in 42

[iron helm]

who thought it was a good idea to lock incresaing resources behind focus trees and not decisions

[winged field]

You can get some from decisions.

Idk if it's like a dlc thing or sum

[torpid aspen]

Who can help Hungary resist Italy and the Third Reich?

[iron helm]

the only thing in south america is We must drill deeper

[torpid aspen]

How to survive

[marble igloo]

1. put all your generals into a field marshal 2. stop attacking the frontline in the north 3. fix your frontlines entirely

4. produce more equipment and pump out 12 width infantry and just hold the lines

5. pray some big major country helps you

6. why do you have 1800+ political power, use it on military guys, etc.

500 army xp, 1800+ political power... what are you even doing

[sudden thistle]

Oh I didn’t even notice that

[marble igloo]

7. make fighter planes and actually use them

8. update your equipment to the best levels, with the MIOs

[sudden thistle]

Ok that’s a bit too optimistic

He has 19 factories

[marble igloo]

hm

[sudden thistle]

Anti air is the best he can do

[marble igloo]

then yeah, full on infantry, mass mob is his best bet at surviving

2 on trains, 1 on trucks, set supply to max on troops, 1 on arti, 2 on anti-air, 3 on support equipment, 10 on guns

for military factories

if that's not 19 mils, and just 19 factories in total, just play a new game you've already messed up hard

[sudden thistle]

It is 100% 19 factories in total

[marble igloo]

i think that's 19 total... yikes

yeah, it's "saveable" but only by good players

and why would you even want to save that mess

you're playing as romania

[sudden thistle]

Did he try stealing the enemies country

[zinc light]

It's best to prop up behind a river

[serene inlet]

all his industry is gone then

[zinc light]

Why? Theres a river West of bukarest, leading Up to the carpathians which are also defensible

[serene inlet]

he didnt build much there

no comeback is possible

[wicked haven]

😭

[serene inlet]

modded france world conquest by 42

[drowsy quarry]

All of the puppet and ally country against... Yemen?

[drowsy quarry]

Noice

[zinc light]

Why'd He build only in transylvania?

[toxic cypress]

they are in the facist allies

[daring geyser]

i'm blue da ba dee da ba dae

[slim nexus]

Border rating: 8/10

[slim nexus]

Border rating: 7/10

[slim nexus]

Border rating: 7/10

[slim nexus]

Border rati g: 8/10

[shut gazelle]

when I play italy and I try paradropping france, only like 2 divisons launch and the rest wont, I use the 1 battalion paratrooper and got 150-200 transport planes

anyone knows why the others wont launch?

[zinc light]

playing ahistorical, Finland had a fascist uprising, democratic actually won and now they don't have a focus tree anymore

[paper echo]

what

[still loom]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gUHVoOAwB0o?si=IIihiVcsMVbbDz4L

How come this is official?

[last cave]

Holy based

[still loom]

As I have always said, Paradox has that basement guy similar to Gaijin's basement guy

[drowsy arrow]

lol

[limpid mantle]

are the pacific islands worth defending as japan?

[limpid mantle]

suddenly hes french?

[zinc light]

I dont think its core territory, however, it'll make it far easier for your enemies to invade you since they can use em as a staging ground

[last cave]

Wdym

Ohhh

Hes half french

[sonic sand]

I will not be compromising on the fact paradox do be scammers

nor will i be surrendering

[meager valley]

Right now or when the update drops?

[bright arrow]

If you don't compromise with Paradox

They wont surrender you the dlc

[shut drum]

are we able to purchase the focus trees as seperate or do we need to buy the full ass dlc that will probably cost like 900-1k pesos

[bright arrow]

The current pass is the gathering from a bunch of things they will release, but we will be able to purchase No Compromise No surrender and the other components separately

Not sure if thats what you meant

[meager valley]

Ahh yes let’s sell individual focus trees for 5x the amount of money with EA/Sims level of microtransactions

Dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of for consumers 😂

[zinc light]

"to unlock the army focuses you need to pay 5€"

[bright arrow]

You just know democratic trees would cost less than the commie/non aligned/fascist

[zinc light]

yea lmao

[south tendon]

japan/china update(dlc)?

[meager valley]

Bro wants to pay for each separate focus tree 💀

[cyan arrow]

Pippo baudo

[zinc light]

the EA experience
"yes thes 3 DLCs all add stuff that could be compromised into a singular themed DLC, however we want to milk you more"

just be glad that they dont release a new title every year, with little to no new content and higher price

I mean PDX

[devout trench]

ahh yes

buy ma clique focus tree ONLY

instead of buying the entire DLC

[daring geyser]

either stalin is really really fast or that bike really sucks

he did say he built it with his own hands

[sudden thistle]

Why is ur name that now

[meager valley]

Bc people stalked my rl accounts

So I switched it to my gaming username

[sudden thistle]

Fair

[storm mica]

Guys I am new to hoiv .
Do somebody have any tips to win a war?

[patent thistle]

ukraine navy with moscquito fleet mod

(rt56)

[meager valley]

Make sure your units are supplied. Don’t use line artillery. Stick to 10/18/20/36 combat width

[unkempt zodiac]

quit while you have the time 😭

[storm mica]

Okay thx and is cavalary good

[storm mica]

Why?