hoi4-general

[copper sluice]

parts of india tho

malaysia and brazil

[fair horizon]

oh that'll do it

[tepid crown]

Major powers are more fun

[fair horizon]

no

minor powers that can do stuff like sa are very fun

[tepid crown]

Majors are still better. Always be able to do more

[fair horizon]

they start better

but any country that even takes a part of china can do just as much

i guess they do get the caveat of doing the facility researches faster than everyone else

kinda moot point

since they're basically all worthless except for 3

[limpid mantle]

I just defeated Poland as germany in an around 5 days earlier than the time it took my chinese volunteers to arrive home

collaboration government needs to be nerfed

what is this

[tepid crown]

The way you get Germany super strong

[fair horizon]

collab governments are always strong

[limpid mantle]

how long will it take for france then?

we'll see! i also did collab on france

[fair horizon]

well france has the unstable government thing so take paris and they go poof

[limpid mantle]

oh yeah

maybe i wasted my resources

doing that

[fair horizon]

eh

[limpid mantle]

i did it twice..

like its china or something

[fair horizon]

helps with compliance

[wicked haven]

Belgium capitulates fast now as long as you take capital or area near it

[limpid mantle]

ooh thats also helping

[wicked haven]

Then run along French northern supply hubs with tanks and take Paris

[limpid mantle]

those frenchmen

[wicked haven]

After that you win

Surround Holland and hold them with infantry

[tepid crown]

No. Collab government give you more compliance thus giving you more factories and such

[limpid mantle]

if only i had collabed norway

itll be so painful

[fair horizon]

cant you do it now?

[limpid mantle]

i have to rescue one of my operatives

[tepid crown]

Typically best think to do is 2 collabs on France and Poland, then one on Belgium, Netherlands and Denmark

[limpid mantle]

here we go

Fall Gelb begins

oh my lord

so fast

now thsi is blitzkrieg!

Day 2

[dawn mango]

japan🫃

[fair horizon]

bad dlc

japan should be bad because otherwise a major power is too strong

or something i was told like a week ago in here

[wicked haven]

Japan was pretty bad irl

[fair horizon]

yeah but they're still a major power

[tepid crown]

What?

[wicked haven]

Gassed out invading China and didn’t help their axis

[fair horizon]

idk someone said something like that a week ago

[tepid crown]

Germany is easily the most busted nation but no one says anything about that

[wicked haven]

Does Yamato count as a super heavy battleship now

[tepid crown]

Always has

[wicked haven]

As a project

[tepid crown]

It has since the dlc

[wicked haven]

Can the Ratte be used in naval invasions?

[fair horizon]

well doesnt that depend on if they do the focus or not?

since they'll make battleships

[wicked haven]

Ratte with Gustav support

[fair horizon]

and eventually they'll make a battleship the game will name yamato

[tepid crown]

Anything can really

[fair horizon]

amtracs ❤️

[wicked haven]

I never attempted to use it though

Game is always over too fast

[tepid crown]

Ai just sucks is why

[fair horizon]

biggest issue with special projects ngl

[wicked haven]

Ye

Especially the ones that delay during research

[tepid crown]

If AI could competently make tanks and planes it would alright be that much better

[fair horizon]

like i did the ice carrier once but ill never touch it again

slowest piece of crap carrier

[tepid crown]

Can carry bombers though and shit ton of deck space

[wicked haven]

Ai Empire of Oman which controls 2 ties declaring war on the axis powers to defend Norway (they are completely surrounded by axis puppet states)

[fair horizon]

yeah except it would take the same time to build one with 90 deck space as a 100 space 1940 carrier

and it goes to 180

[tepid crown]

Yes, I never build anything past 36 carriers

[fair horizon]

i think id rather just have the 2 carriers

[wicked haven]

The super heavy BB is pretty cool

[fair horizon]

well you need 1940 carrier to research ice carriers

[wicked haven]

Quite fast to unlock just takes forever to build

[tepid crown]

I do build SHBBs because they’re actually useful

[fair horizon]

i use that armor on regular battleships ngl

[tepid crown]

Exactly

[wicked haven]

Do they count as BBs for Plan Z

[fair horizon]

yeah but if ive already researched 1940 carriers im just gonna do that

[fair horizon]

should do

[tepid crown]

No clue

[fair horizon]

like by the time you actually research the ice carrier you'll have had 2 1940 carriers actually built

[wicked haven]

Might rush them then and try a naval German empire ahistorical game

[fair horizon]

so imo its a crappy special project

[limpid mantle]

OMG i just watched my battle plan accurately recreate Dunkirk

about 5 divisions overrun

on dunkirk

so cooked

[wicked haven]

What about cruiser submarines

[fair horizon]

dont use them

[wicked haven]

Are you going to steal the fleet from france?

[fair horizon]

like all of the naval ones are pretty crappy

[limpid mantle]

ykw i forgot how that one goes

[warped flint]

Where do you live?

[wicked haven]

Missile launching submarine

[warped flint]

It was snowing in october for me

like heavily

[wicked haven]

They are in Toulouse

You have to reach it before they scuttle them

[limpid mantle]

Is that southern france?

ooh

i see it

sure

[wicked haven]

South west ye

[limpid mantle]

ill be there in no time!

[fair horizon]

wait is that actually a thing? you can steal the french fleet?

[wicked haven]

Torpedo cruiser the goat, more expensive than building dds and less torpedos

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[tepid crown]

Even 40 carriers aren’t usually worth researching and building

[fair horizon]

id sooner build a 1 gun cruiser than a destroyer

[wicked haven]

You can seize them, helps with seal lion a bit

[fair horizon]

oh for sure i 100% agree i just love base strike

[limpid mantle]

so, establish vichy or not?

i did a collab

prior

[sudden thistle]

Hater

[fair horizon]

hows that work?

[tepid crown]

🤷‍♂️

[wicked haven]

Btw Dr E, do plan green before capitulating Britain

[tepid crown]

They’re not good for how long it takes

Plus by that time with a good player the game would be over already

[wicked haven]

You can activate an event but it’s time limited and Iirc only when free France exists

[fair horizon]

like how does it trigger though?

[wicked haven]

Diplo

Case Anton

Some of these GTD projects are so insane

[tepid crown]

There’s only a few that are worth it

[wicked haven]

There is no way you could get nuclear icbms in a regular game unless you’re attempting to delay

[wicked haven]

Ye, so many are too resource/time intensive

[limpid mantle]

literally me

[wicked haven]

Didn’t Italy attempt to puppet them

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[sonic sand]

new game idea rivalries

nations who have a rivalry with another nation get a 5% attack bonus against the other nation

and it goes both ways

making wars more back and forth

and mistakes are punished more

hungary is rivals with romania

germany is rivals with france

the japanese are rivals with china

the soviets are rivals with japan

and germany

okay cool

everyone agrees

alright

[sudden thistle]

Sure

[viscid coyote]

This was surprisingly easy

[sudden thistle]

(No)

[viscid coyote]

Wait should I invest in a navy

[wicked haven]

Yes

[sonic sand]

oh and if you're at an offensive war against a country whos your rival war support doesn't tank

[viscid coyote]

Oh

Ok

[wicked haven]

Navy only run

[sudden thistle]

It’s literally just eu4’s version but different

[sudden thistle]

Only 20%

[viscid coyote]

Bro I’m Austria Hungary I’m cooked

[wicked haven]

When is the war crime dlc coming out

[wicked haven]

Historically accurate though

[sudden thistle]

@dawn mango

[viscid coyote]

How do you know if a countries your rival?

[viscid coyote]

Yep

[sonic sand]

symbol

[limpid mantle]

aw shiit

[viscid coyote]

Ok

[limpid mantle]

i realized i never activated polish and french decryption

theyre decrypted, I JSUT NEVER ACTIVATEDC THEM

goddamit!

[viscid coyote]

Btw is there any way to increase your special forces cap

[limpid mantle]

whats the point?

[sonic sand]

no point

there is never a point

[viscid coyote]

lol

[sudden thistle]

I mean it’s not needed

[wicked haven]

I would like it btw when you’re playing Italy on historical if the allies would tip trying to naval invade Sicily when you control the entire med, it would be nice if they reacted to your competence

[viscid coyote]

Wait will Italy still come for Albania if I own I

Like not puppet it just straight up own

[sudden thistle]

No

[viscid coyote]

Oh yay

[sudden thistle]

Since the Albania tag doesn’t exist

[viscid coyote]

Yay

Btw I already got a no. Aggression pact with Germany so they can’t get my Sudetenland

[wicked haven]

Puppet it and naval invade Italy

[viscid coyote]

…

I have 2 destroyers

[wicked haven]

Italy is so weak to capitulation and you can’t even get it down

[sudden thistle]

U don’t need to naval invade Italy

He borders it

[wicked haven]

🤓

[viscid coyote]

I’m like 2 steps away from Venice

[sudden thistle]

Bro 😭

[wicked haven]

Don’t you have to invade Italy for cores

[viscid coyote]

No

[wicked haven]

Never miss an opportunity to naval invade Sicily

[viscid coyote]

I went down the path where you can’t negotiate for Tyrol

[wicked haven]

Ah fair

[viscid coyote]

I can get Switzerland tho

[sonic sand]

Another idea

In depth and war

[viscid coyote]

Yeah?

[wicked haven]

Make Nukes more powerful

[viscid coyote]

I do actually have good fighters

Not a bad idea

[sonic sand]

For wars where nothing happens like the winter war make it so that the war is much more detailed and make it feel like you are actually doing something instead of sitting on level 7 forts

[wicked haven]

And add the South Pole so we can go to the centre of the earth as the German chicken farmer

[serene inlet]

whats the spain meta in msb

[tepid crown]

Win

[serene inlet]

anyone has a good space marine temp

[sudden thistle]

Inf+tank

Win

👍

[serene inlet]

😭

do you think

they will notice

if i do it in mp

as spain

dday wall space marines

[tepid crown]

Yes

[silk walrus]

more divisions

[tepid crown]

Just do mechanized. Better defense

[viscid coyote]

Oh k

Thx

[serene inlet]

show temp

[viscid coyote]

I’m just a infantry wall

[tepid crown]

Not in mp, you’ll get crushed

[serene inlet]

if u go guerilla tactics inf wall works

[marsh ravine]

Nuh uh

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[marsh ravine]

You get pushed eventually

[tepid crown]

Mech is better

[marsh ravine]

Ive done inf dday wall

[sudden thistle]

And space marines are usually banned

[marsh ravine]

Extensively

Fst div die

[tepid crown]

Tbf you should get pushed either way if allies are good

[marsh ravine]

Smol div has a smol chance of working cos u can just infinite reinforce

[serene inlet]

dang that shits slow

[broken sky]

yummi anti shit on every tank anti tank

[tepid crown]

It’s not meant to be fast. It’s DDay wall

[marsh ravine]

With inf u get landed on by apes, with mech u dont get landed in by apes

[tepid crown]

This is true

[serene inlet]

ugh since its msb i'll make 10 billion of those

would be overkill

[marsh ravine]

Oh its msb

Msb ain't vanilla

[brittle cypress]

Invest all ic of dday wall into navy instead

[marsh ravine]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[serene inlet]

msb spain industry is insane

[marsh ravine]

Yeh you do mech in msb

I think u do td and mech

Cant remember tho

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/navy-nikal-gif-27437362

[marsh ravine]

Like 2 or 3td rest mech afaik

Saw some skibidi template like that

I assume its good

[serene inlet]

ill get those when africa starts do

i need something versatile

i can help in barb and africa

cuz

industry msb spain is isnane

[marsh ravine]

focus on dday

trying to do too much is exactly how u waste a nation

jstu pick 1

[serene inlet]

if we get africa they cant dday

[sudden thistle]

I never even played msb

[marsh ravine]

abuse ur germany

take africa or leave game

simple

[serene inlet]

thats why i wanna help in africa

wait

[tepid crown]

Is Africa actually important in msb

[serene inlet]

marines lowk no

[marsh ravine]

idk i dont play it

[serene inlet]

for navla invasion

and 15 width def inf

[marsh ravine]

i have never played msb i just see alot of yap

cos im on discord too much

[serene inlet]

marines + mech

idc

[marsh ravine]

could do marines

[sudden thistle]

Btw Nono loved the sov Strat

[marsh ravine]

invade usa i dare u

[marsh ravine]

we are doing it?

[tepid crown]

Fair. I don’t like much bloat so I try and play vanilla based stuff

[sudden thistle]

Ofc?!

[marsh ravine]

i dont have to go ger coop!

[serene inlet]

No usa game

[marsh ravine]

bruh

invade saf

[serene inlet]

saf 😂

navy range momen

t

[marsh ravine]

capping a nation>not capping a nation

[sudden thistle]

No USA?…

wtf

[marsh ravine]

dont u have that shitty island near congo?

[serene inlet]

no asia

no usa

were only 10

[marsh ravine]

he didnt want to

so i was gonna go ger coop

[sudden thistle]

He didn’t say no

[marsh ravine]

🔥

wait i have a gif i can send him

for it to work

[broken sky]

the

SOWJET

UNION

[sonic sand]

Is hoi4 doing anything for remembrance day

[broken sky]

wasnt that yesterday

[viscid coyote]

What should I change with this division?

Or should I just leave it

[brittle cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snippingtool-life-hack-supertool-gif-19420393

[sonic sand]

its november 11th

which is right now for most of the world

besides maybe japan

[viscid coyote]

So it’s good?

[viscid coyote]

Ngl we should all play the Great War redux mod lol

[cedar lance]

hello yalls 9 days left till NCNS comes out

no 8 days

[sonic sand]

peak

[sonic sand]

can't wait for 7 days then 6 days then 5 days then 4

then 3 then 2 then 1

and then it released

[cedar lance]

yes i cant wait aswell

im most excited and hyped bout the ranger unit and the 2 new ship types

[sonic sand]

i would talk about real world politics

but

im not allowed

in a server about a game where you can make hitler win ww2

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[ancient marsh]

It’s getting killed

Poor content and terrible lead development 🥹

[sudden thistle]

Still a fun mod regardless

@fast slate when is the 67th ww1 game

[fast slate]

let me sleep

[still loom]

Love the face

I am curious
How long would it take for this dlc to be free?

Since man the guns became free recently

[craggy trail]

[cursive oxide]

1 year max

[still loom]

If I decide to continue my hoi4 days soon, I am probably gonna skip this dlc and go for the next ones

Since we'll get it for free

maybe not, who knows

[serene inlet]

how do i coop when i observe

[serene inlet]

like ask for coop

[rose siren]

you like noodles dont you?

[languid heron]

For me centre is always best

[fair horizon]

maruchen is better

also pork better too

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

[craggy trail]

Maruchan, Top Ramen, Sapporo Ichiban

[tulip thorn]

This is true, nissin tastes horrible tbh

[dusky burrow]

not enough org

put more trucks

[toxic sapphire]

i was thinking of giving mussolini land until he did ts

cooked his ahh

count. your. days

[dusky burrow]

good luck italy

you're in a bad position

[toxic sapphire]

im germany

im sending assasins for mussolini after ts

[sudden thistle]

Italy can win this

https://tenor.com/view/italy-meme-battleship-pizza-mamma-mia-gif-22460103

[fair horizon]

DONT DO IT POLAND IS TOO CUTE

[limpid mantle]

wow i just unknowingly and quite accidentally achieved autarky without invading the ussr on vanilla

i just conquered every other european country except for britain

[sudden thistle]

That’s normal

[wooden flame]

Hello there! I am a player who has been looking into getting into HOI4 for a bit now, i looked at the dlc's and alot of people are saying most of then are bad and or badly priced

I have came here to ask a question, what are the dlcs that you guys would say are worth it?

[hot patrol]

is 16 width okay enough to attack

[hot patrol]

PLEASE GERMANY I NEED THISSS

[hot patrol]

MY BORDERS ARE KINDA GORELESS

[wooden flame]

Somebody?

[last cave]

no step back

and mans in the guns

the basic ones

i dont remeber the name of the third one tho

that had air rework

basically 3 dlcs that have reworked tanks, air and navy

[hot patrol]

DON'T BUY THEM

Genuinley

just get the subscription

[warped flint]

That ones free now

[hot patrol]

7 dollars for a month, like 13 for 3

[warped flint]

Yeah you can get it for 6 months for like under 30$

[hot patrol]

exactly

DO NOT waste your money for all of them

for most a hoi4 phase is max 2 months

[warped flint]

I have been in mine for like 2 years atp

[last cave]

1 greek achievment to go

[random delta]

guys the soviets just declared on poland now they in my faction

[warped flint]

Greece is so fun

[last cave]

untill 1940 its boring

[warped flint]

ngl I enjoy the parts defeating turkey and romania

[hot patrol]

for most casual players*

[last cave]

i bought mine dlc's

[hot patrol]

Madness? No, THIS IS SPARTAA!!!

[hot patrol]

how much was it total

[last cave]

in euros around 150+-

even more

200+-

[warped flint]

I am saving money to buy all the dlcs

I have 35 rn saved

[last cave]

dont

[last cave]

but like, i had many cs2 items and when dlc's came out i bought them by selling mine cs2 items

[warped flint]

I have spent a lot of money on subscription atp, I might aswell just buy the dlcs

[warped flint]

Well im gonna be on hoi4 a shit ton now

im sick

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-a-father-xxx-xxxtentacion-brainrot-sigma-gif-14203530448035513066

[last cave]

cant believe i spended 2 eu on this💔

[azure palm]

9 days... 9 more days...

[tulip thorn]

This dlc better be good

[warped flint]

Lowkey I forgot what this dlc is about

Asia something I think?

[tulip thorn]

Japan, china and the phillippines

[warped flint]

bro

NO SIAM?

I am dissapointed

😡

[pure plume]

Siam not cool like Philippines, all is ok

[tulip thorn]

Its in a separate dlc coming later

That will be in a dlc called thunder at our gates

Q2 2026

[azure palm]

The Japanese arent gonna like this

[hot patrol]

is this ok for general use

[tulip thorn]

Very much so

[last cave]

np

[violet spire]

You could add one more inf battalion

[last cave]

no

add 2 arts

than yes

[azure palm]

I prefer with 9 inf

[violet spire]

And AA support maybe if you don't have air

[azure palm]

depends on what nation though

[violet spire]

🥀

[violet spire]

Artillery battalion isn't good

[last cave]

what does it say

[last cave]

it is

[violet spire]

No idea tbh

[violet spire]

Nope, its not worth

Against ai it works, but its not worth

[last cave]

i always put 2 arts in mine template

[foggy cliff]

its gonna be a rough war...

[warped flint]

WHYAT DID THE LEMUR DO BRO

[foggy cliff]

take oregon

[violet spire]

If you play against ai its not that bad, but its not that worth in mp

[foggy cliff]

dudes an evil lemur for that

[last cave]

i dont have friends that own that game

[warped flint]

So ima play TNO russia, I am playing a extremely wholesome country

[warped flint]

Who can guess

[deep solstice]

not cool FINLAND

they did this with the germans 😭

always the soviets man 💔

[violet spire]

Finnish continuation war ✌️💔

[deep solstice]

real

yeah thats it

YES stalin you CAN have 10k guns

and YES britain you can have 400 shermans

YES im america

YES im the goat

oh

I uh

I forgot

about this

shit

[violet spire]

I mean, you can get 1944 with jets in 40/41 I think

[deep solstice]

JUST KIDDING

[frail bolt]

It better not be like bba or gyoe

[deep solstice]

😂

SILLY JAPANESE

YOU ARE NOT BEATING ME 🤑

[violet spire]

Marines garrisoning the port 🥀

[tulip thorn]

bba was a good dlc

[deep solstice]

little do they know

[tulip thorn]

or atleast half of a good dlc

[deep solstice]

I had forgot to set it up mb

they already got repelled tho dw

GG bots

also marines are goated

do not diss on marines

[frail bolt]

On steam it’s mostly negative

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/great-trial-begins-gif-16005124557229441504

[deep solstice]

this might be the strongest navy I have ever constructed

[violet spire]

True, but use them to attack or naval invade

[deep solstice]

yeah they were a placeholder while I mobilized my real divisions

im actually pretty weak for 1941

[toxic sapphire]

who did hirohito think he is 💔

[deep solstice]

TAZER TAZER TAZER

[tulip thorn]

I said half of a good dlc

[violet spire]

Not really, with just like 10 marines you can invade Japan and flood it with inf

[tulip thorn]

Italy tree is great and the plane designer is a good feature

The rest is trash

[uncut carbon]

stealing ships ❤️

[tulip thorn]

Like ethiopia and Switzerland

[uncut carbon]

idk why this is a dlc feature

[tulip thorn]

I forgot

BBA also gives more peace deal stuff

[deep solstice]

ez japan defense

ive actually had the phillipines solo them b4

but I didnt wanna risk it this time

cause im in iron-man

ill naval invade french indochina and take that back

[frail bolt]

Like war reparations

[fading elk]

So I just got trolled by my own country

[tulip thorn]

I forgot about that lol

[fading elk]

So I went down a communist Balkan dominance tree and help the Soviets take out the Germans cuz I made tons of forts

And end up puppeting a few nations

Now I just got a civil war where my enemy has no troops for the second time but now they joined the allies

Game really wanted me to fight the allies huh

At least I’m in the komintern huh

[fervent minnow]

y'all how does one find playing TFR fun

it just goes on forever

it is SO long

[deep solstice]

Honestly thinking about special forces

marines and paratroopers are so hilariously good compared to mountaineers

I dont even really see a reason to train mountaineers

[bright sinew]

so like

every game has one of those songs in the soundtrack that everyone thinks of when they think of the game

fallout 3 has the 'i dont want to set the world on fire' thing

[violet spire]

They are quite good

[bright sinew]

fallout new vegas has johnny guitar

what does hoi4 have in its soundtrack that is stuck in your head forever;
for me its soviet overture

[violet spire]

Even better with marines

[deep solstice]

speaking of which

ill be taking french indo china back please and thanks

I have 400 submarines

japan you better strat PRAYING I dont find your convoys bro 😭

[sudden thistle]

Not really

[deep solstice]

soviets are back at moscow in december 1941

I sure hope this doesnt go badly

is what I would say if it wasnt august and they were at smolensk*

honestly ive seen the soviets pushed back to Gorky and still come back

they are kinda crazy

so ill let this playout for a few years before I consider a true intervention

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[deep solstice]

my plan for this run is to last until 1948 for the achievement

and to make the 300 factories

for the other achievement 🔥

[toxic sapphire]

give template for soviet

mass murder of stalinins

[deep solstice]

hello britain!

I will absolutely join you!

[deep solstice]

50 width stalin division 🔥

[toxic sapphire]

no no

I want to kill stalin

[patent thistle]

everyone has equal rights trust, see? its a republic, atleast thats what i will tell the UN

[toxic sapphire]

@toxic sapphire @deep solstice

[deep solstice]

oh

hmm

well I always just use a basic template

[toxic sapphire]

fuh u

[deep solstice]

like a 3x3 inf, support AA, support armored recon, and engineer company

[hasty owl]

Of course you would say that

[tulip thorn]

32w mass mob

[deep solstice]

stalin.... are you okay?

[toxic sapphire]

div template

ss it

[deep solstice]

stalin.. PLEASE dude its 1941 please 💔

[toxic sapphire]

me soon

[deep solstice]

I might just declare on finland

🥀

[toxic sapphire]

last game finals took 10% of the soviets

but I fumbled cuz knock knock its the united states

[deep solstice]

yeah im declaring on finland

wait I literally cant

DUDE THAT SUCKS

finland is actually ruining this so bad and I cant declare on them 😭

[toxic sapphire]

declare on germany

capital snipe

[deep solstice]

I did lol

[toxic sapphire]

or else skill issue

[deep solstice]

some of my allies are doing goog

good*

its only 1941

I should not HAVE to intervene yet

[toxic sapphire]

take a pic of it pls

[deep solstice]

although at this point...

😭

let me just strike out japan

and then ill focus on the axis powers

[toxic sapphire]

I failed naval invading them

4 times

this run

[deep solstice]

I havent failed once yet

[toxic sapphire]

it was so bad the usa joined my war

[deep solstice]

I LOVE being the USA with my 400 factories and 700 ships

[toxic sapphire]

even tho I'm germany

[deep solstice]

ultimate convoy raiding final boss

[tulip thorn]

Dont have one at the moment, and cant open hoi4 rn

just go all the way to mass mob right side and put infantry in the div till it says 32w

[toxic sapphire]

is 8 full army groups enough for soviet

[tulip thorn]

As the soviets I always have like 600 units or more by the end of the game lol

[toxic sapphire]

poor people

[crisp wyvern]

ive spent 3 days without wifi, and spend all of those days playing hoi4 like a madman

i hate having to fight 2 major powers as a minor nation only to get syria and lebanon from the french and the other british establishments in the middle east

[deep solstice]

and so it begins

its so nice to convoy raid japan

bc they import so much

so you can just annihilate like 20 convoys at a time

[tulip thorn]

only 20

[bright matrix]

Paradox

[deep solstice]

ironically enough

[bright matrix]

Lower that damn price, you mercenary company.

Lower the damn price! I live in Brazil and the DLCs are way too expensive!

[tulip thorn]

Will you even be able to buy the dlc separately from the expansion pack

[bright matrix]

They should make everything free.

The game itself is already expensive.

The DLCs should be integrated!

[tulip thorn]

Make everything free and put in microtransactions instead

$10 for 10 civ factories

[bright matrix]

Ye

[tulip thorn]

1 meta tank div for $3

[bronze mango]

They have been integrating the older ones

[grand wolf]

Sup guys

[dusky burrow]

it's so japanover

[deep solstice]

its joever

[dusky burrow]

although if you do that you should try retaking Malaya

Since for some reason resources can travel from Java to Sumatra to Malaya all over land

[fair horizon]

chat apparently tommykay tried to play hoi4 without complaining about supply

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

what's his division template?

Mountaineers?

[fair horizon]

lmao

[dusky burrow]

Cavalry?

[fair horizon]

dunno just started the video

[dusky burrow]

If there's any line artillery it's clickbait

[grand wolf]

Nah

I use line artillery

Very effective

[dusky burrow]

it's relatively supply intensive thing is

also yeah it isn't that good

[grand wolf]

It works when I dont got my 24 heavy tank divisions on that front line

It killed the french and soviets

Maybe I should use the mobile artillery instead for more breakthrough

[broken sky]

If you're playing SP, you can even cap up to 350 and still win, lol

But usually you do 500-600 divs

[dusky burrow]

it's only a tiny bit more effective

[broken sky]

600+ is overkill

[dusky burrow]

and not by much

almost 0 percent more effective

considering terrain debuffs

[hasty owl]

Doesn't the nation you play as matter?

[broken sky]

That's for the Soviets.

[hasty owl]

Okay kitten

[broken sky]

Okay, my baby boy ❤️

agzis pawas

[heavy vigil]

very effective against gun 0 and gun 1

[woven cape]

anyone got any good mods to play?

[grand wolf]

It killed the soviets when they tried to demand things from finland

[heavy vigil]

victoria 3 fr fr

[grand wolf]

Millennium dawn

[heavy vigil]

actually probably like idk collapsing world tfr eaw

gwr, kx

kr

anything you find fun just go on the workshop and look around

[woven cape]

what does it do?

[heavy vigil]

yeah their army is mostly gun 0 and gun 1

also finland is OP

[grand wolf]

I have yet to find a good cold war mod

[grand wolf]

Its a 2000-2014 mod

[woven cape]

Ohh i see

[grand wolf]

I was Germany

[grand wolf]

I find it enjoyable

[woven cape]

Im presuming that N.A.T.O. and other alliances exist?

[heavy vigil]

even more OP lol

[grand wolf]

Nato, Csto

[woven cape]

I see

[grand wolf]

Theres also the European union

[safe wing]

Germany is weak in Rome total war

[woven cape]

Thanks, im gonna try it now

[safe wing]

Which is accurate for the time period

[grand wolf]

I haven't mastered mass production of heavy tanks yet

[safe wing]

But strong in Barbarian invasion and as the Holy Roman Empire in Medieval II

[grand wolf]

Also if you like the base game rt56 is a good one

[heavy vigil]

put more factory on

[azure palm]

I just got the event "David Frankfurter mysteriously died in prison" and then I got the event "David Frankfurter sentenced to prison". Crazy

[deep solstice]

WHAT

[grand wolf]

I build military factories when I start

[safe wing]

Someone cloned him

[buoyant ravine]

it's june of 1938 and this is my run as portugal so far gng

[deep solstice]

HOW DOES THE GERMAN REICH HAVE MORE DIVISIONS THAN THE USSR?

WHAT AM I READING

[buoyant ravine]

big portugal

[narrow zinc]

ik im late but

At the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month

We will remember them

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them.

Lest We Forget

11:00 11.11.1918

[heavy vigil]

thats not that weird

[azure palm]

That must have been the french! Lets invade them quickly in 6 weeks through the adrennes to clone another one!

[safe wing]

They did for a brief window in 1941

[grand wolf]

Pure propaganda from Switzerland

[deep solstice]

plz stalin lock in sob

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bakushin-uma-umamusume-psalm-psalm-37-13-gif-17870769785741412697

[deep solstice]

bro stalin is getting fried

[safe wing]

Nothing scraping the barrel can’t fix

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-pot-yu-gi-oh-yugioh-gif-1156091889875709808

[deep solstice]

January of 1942 and hes lost moscow, leningrad and stalingrad

WHAT are you doing bro

[safe wing]

Okay thats not what happened

[woven cape]

anyone here understand naval invasions?

[deep solstice]

it doesnt take a genius 😢

[deep solstice]

Marines or regular divisions

put em on a port

use the naval invasion button when hovering over the army

[woven cape]

I see

[deep solstice]

then click a port to start at, and a destination

[grand wolf]

NOOOO PAPA STALIN

[deep solstice]

and you need naval supremacy

[safe wing]

They got close to moscow, stalled in stalingrad and couldn’t take leningrad as it wasn’t worth it

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/joseph-stalin-hats-off-sending-off-gif-15305690

[azure palm]

By the way, you can do the focus Re-ratify the locarno treaty and then do the focus reject the locarno treaty just because

[deep solstice]

exactly

but for some reason in hoi4

they always get cooked

like hard

I have to go save papa stalin

[safe wing]

The Brtions take over Germania in Rome total war

And Egypt takes over all of the Middle East

[woven cape]

Anyone here ever played poland and won? It is the ultimate challenge

[grand wolf]

I suggest using only marine units when naval invading them sending the main army when you got a port or just make 24 overpowered marine divisions and watch them turn the enemy army to mist

[buoyant ravine]

this hurts me

a lot

why did i do it

[grand wolf]

Just show the entire ss

[buoyant ravine]

no its funnier to do bad screenshots

[grand wolf]

Fair point

[fair horizon]

he actually did it, he didnt even use his troops

[buoyant ravine]

alr ill show

[fair horizon]

just declare on spain

[buoyant ravine]

yes its ugly

yes all my army is in one place

yes its really funny

[dusky burrow]

"just use someone else's troops" lmao

[buoyant ravine]

still working on my army rn

intend to eventually form iberia

[serene inlet]

is piercing most important stat for tanks?

[dusky burrow]

hardly

[sharp sierra]

the tank template or division

[serene inlet]

i played in mp and a france with 90 piercing tanks just made vanish 40 width massmob divs

like 8 stacked on one tile

with 500 defense each

[sharp sierra]

well it probably wasnt because of the piercing

[quasi latch]

that has nothing to do with piercing

it's soft attack x planning that matters for that

[sharp sierra]

their breakthrough and soft attack was probbaly really high

[serene inlet]

500 soft attack

[sharp sierra]

did you look at the battle

[serene inlet]

no

[sharp sierra]

theres a lot going on probably

bonuses for their stats like planning

[serene inlet]

Oh

[sharp sierra]

debuffs for yours

[serene inlet]

i wasnt playing against

[heavy vigil]

yeah lol

40 width sucks

[serene inlet]

msb

[heavy vigil]

msb is an overhaul mod

[serene inlet]

40 width is

[heavy vigil]

but still piercing isnt the most impirtant stat

[serene inlet]

ideal in msb

no?

[heavy vigil]

idk i dont play msb

[serene inlet]

every tile is 80 width

so ye

idk how to get 900 breaktrough on my tanks

[heavy vigil]

so you made it 0.9 width too large

[serene inlet]

thats not mine

thats his

[heavy vigil]

thats also a stat that doesnt deal damage

[quasi latch]

you don't need more than 500

[serene inlet]

he just ripped stacks

witht his

this

[heavy vigil]

yeah that tank looks fine

did you see battle modifiers?

[serene inlet]

nope

[heavy vigil]

sucks

thats what makes tanks good

[quasi latch]

replace all the mediums with Heavy TD'sand if you wanna do space marine style tanks use a single SPAA/Heavy tank, other than that you go down to 7 mech

[heavy vigil]

no

that tank is fine

for msb

which is a medium tank mod

[quasi latch]

oh, thought it was for vanilla

nvm then

[serene inlet]

is light tank recon a must have

[heavy vigil]

yes

10% hard attack

[serene inlet]

i see

is gbp left ideal of tanks?

[heavy vigil]

yeah

ideal for attacking anyway

[toxic cypress]

dam poles

causing problems all the time

[dusky burrow]

Is this a 40-width mod?

Anyways against mass mob the most important stat is soft attack

[sharp sierra]

mass moobs

[devout trench]

personally

i push with 18 width infantry

no air

[hasty owl]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-analog-horror-wolf-behind-scary-wolf-gif-4481734443088451351

[heavy vigil]

"push"

[sharp sierra]

must be nice to just delete gif insults

[dusky burrow]

I've pushed with 8-width militia before

But yeah you freaking die en masse

don't do that

[daring geyser]

i didnt know hoi4 added the undiscovered land system from eu4

[devout trench]

you must hire a conquistador to explore it

[hasty owl]

What?

[sharp sierra]

i thought he was deleting them

[hasty owl]

Okay mommy

[sharp sierra]

😏

[fading elk]

So does anyone ever do facist Czechoslovakia

I heard unless ur ahist u Bascially just do Germanys focuses for them

[hasty owl]

I don't know. Go ask someone.

[sharp sierra]

💀

[fading elk]

I am kinda curious cuz I have never heard anyone talk of it ever

And I heard u still get annexed most the time on hist

[pallid roost]

Is there a mod for chemical weapons like mustard gas for Italy?

[azure palm]

Democratic Germany isnt bad. Its actually great

[hasty owl]

I think they have them in the great war mod

[hasty owl]

It sucks

[fading elk]

I heard u get to Bascially make a poor man’s eu

Before u destroy the Soviets and then make the actual eu

[azure palm]

Not if you play it right. You can go mitteleuropa and then integrate every one of your members.

Also you get the french colonys back and an alliance with france and britain

[fading elk]

I really need to get gotterdamrung on next sale huh

[hasty owl]

That sounds cool

[pallid roost]

There used to be a cool zombie mod. Is there like a nazi zombies one?

[hasty owl]

Sounds lame

[fading elk]

I was going to say can u annex Europe peacefully but then I remembered that’s supposed to be Belgium’s eu thing

[azure palm]

It is fun I think. Also you can just get a naval coup and go back to non aligned while keeping the democratic focus tree

[azure palm]

You really need to do that

[hasty owl]

But you only fight the ussr

If I remember right

[fading elk]

I plan to get NSB and gotter next sale since I forgot to get em last time

[devout trench]

first question is why your playing czecho

[azure palm]

No, you also fight Britain, France, the USA, and sometimes Japan, China and others

[fading elk]

Doing some of the formables without it is kinda a pain

(Iron man forming AH moment)

[azure palm]

NSB is needed. Its really great

[fading elk]

Funny fort line I guess?

[fading elk]

Stock Polish focus tree is pain

[azure palm]

You can also form Lichtenstein and the Holy Roman Empire in Götterdämmerung

[low sun]

most OP country strikes again

[azure palm]

Holy Roman Empire can be a pain if the US starts guaranteers

[fading elk]

And buy Alaska

[azure palm]

TANNU TUVA!

[split bane]

Tannu what?

[azure palm]

Yeah that is crazy...

[fading elk]

Top 5 things only hoi4 players know

[opal nymph]

Tannu What?

[azure palm]

#freeTannuTuva

[fading elk]

Tanu tuva on their way to bail the Soviets out of the eastern front

With their 2 divs

[azure palm]

The far eastern empire

[fading elk]

Today I had something funny happen as communist Romania going down Balkan dominance

2 years after I flip communist I get a civil war

Ignore Hungary border gore I had to do it for yugo partition event

[azure palm]

Romanian Germany...

thats not germany...

[fading elk]

I forgot I had puppet Germany selected instead of Austria

Now there is 3 Germanys

[azure palm]

sad...

[fading elk]

Also for some reason

Romania immediately joined the allies

And started ww2 part 2

Literally given no warning

Not they had troops

But hey

At least we took all of Europe by now

Also France got Balkanised pre war

[serene inlet]

every tile is 80 width

[fair horizon]

commie romania 🤮

[fading elk]

My previous time was monarchist Romania but that run I got shafted cuz itlay declared war on me the same day I invaded turkey

[heavy vigil]

@dusky burrow @daring geyser arty 1 ou tank?

[daring geyser]

your game is not on portuguese anymore so

[heavy vigil]

not rn cuz i was playing sheeps

events

the per batallion difference is 1 IC btw

but pick which is better

[inner ocean]

wtf

[daring geyser]

i mean you have actual stats on the tank

line artillery is always zzzzz

[heavy vigil]

less soft

double the break

16 armor isnt significant

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-screamer-cat-gif-26604710

[heavy vigil]

true maybe you should combine them together to make the ultimate destroyer

[daring geyser]

bittersteel approved ✅

@heavy vigil what do you think about modding your linux machine to make it look like windows 7

[hasty owl]

WTF is that

[dusky burrow]

norway?

[tulip thorn]

The best division ever

[heavy vigil]

just pi k

ck

[dusky burrow]

0 org and 12 hp

tank

[hasty owl]

It has 0 org. I've never seen anything under 10. I didn't even know that was possible.

I thought the game would let anything with 0 org exist

[dusky burrow]

yeah how does it even deploy

[tulip thorn]

Org is fake stat

[dusky burrow]

💀

[tulip thorn]

Look at the air attack

Look at the soft attack

who needs anything else

[hasty owl]

It's the most important by soft attack and hard attack

[tulip thorn]

Org is fake

Air attack is king

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dankus-memecus-dankus-esports-speed5-hoi4-gif-27705602

[sharp sierra]

soft attacvk doesnt matter only combat width does

[dusky burrow]

hi dankus

[tulip thorn]

HP is also a fake stat

Everything but soft attack and air attack are fake

[hasty owl]

No it's not😭

[daring geyser]

the best stat is the non combat out of supply penalty reduction

you get less supply usage outside of combat

[tulip thorn]

0 supply is the best

[dusky burrow]

9.91 million manpower as norway

lmao

[daring geyser]

then during combat you instantly go back to red supply

amazing

[dusky burrow]

(well i know, add manpower, but yeah)

[tulip thorn]

I love to blow up all my railways just to get 0 supply all the time

[sharp sierra]

division cost per combat width is the secret formula all else is just human pattern recognition trying to come up with any reasoning to why something works

[hasty owl]

That's a lot of conveys

[zinc light]

is it just me or is Wilhelmina Netherlands just ridiculously overpowered?

[hasty owl]

No it's not😭

[daring geyser]

most nations in this game are ridiculously overpowered when played correctly so eh

[sharp sierra]

you dont know the gae ;like i do

[zinc light]

fair enough

[dusky burrow]

you'd just have mass mob then

[zinc light]

something something pattern recognition

[dusky burrow]

but you don't do the -0.4 combat width reduction

[hasty owl]

Can I get one out to your pfp?

[daring geyser]

the game is about ic efficiency hence SFs + air builds for majors work so well 😴

with gbp

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[zinc light]

also first time trying marines, those dudes melt through literally everything

[hasty owl]

Yes?

[dusky burrow]

yeah this

[heavy vigil]

guam :(

[zinc light]

yeah I got the 8 support company mod

[dusky burrow]

oh my

[zinc light]

"ehh but line arty is inefficient" I dont care

[hasty owl]

Why recon?

[dusky burrow]

Casey had a bad time with Guam

forgive them

[frozen summit]

Anyone wanna play?

[zinc light]

makes em shiny

[dusky burrow]

7 marines + 11 mountaineers + AA/AT with flame tanks + pioneer engineers + hospitals + light tank recon + super-heavy howitzer

That will do better

[tulip thorn]

Even without the line arty that marine template is bad

[dusky burrow]

without the line artillery it would be a 18-width, which of course is bad

[zinc light]

I have neither amtracs nor amphibious tanks my guy

[hasty owl]

Recon is worthless

[dusky burrow]

light tank recon is for the breakthrough from tank

[tulip thorn]

You dont need that for a good marine template

[dusky burrow]

slight mistake btw

[tulip thorn]

That marine template is just bad

Its tiny

for 1

[last cave]

holy carton tank

[zinc light]

how about you say something the likes of "hey, here's how you could imrpove the template" instead of "this one's dogpoop"

[hasty owl]

Says Mr org is fake

[zinc light]

would be much more constructive and friendly