hoi4-general

[deep solstice]

score each round

if you pass 4 times youll have 20000 more score

[rich sand]

OHHHH

that's why i can't even take what i need

[rich sand]

so i just puppet nations i can for now then wait for my turn to get score again?

[atomic grove]

yes

[rich sand]

thanks! i was about to give up and try again lol

[atomic grove]

the longer that a country owns a land that isnt disputed in the peace conference, the more the land they took costs to dispute/take over

[rich sand]

alright thanks

[sharp sierra]

hoif

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-11725242814624643084

[warped flint]

what one of these guys is weakest

[tulip thorn]

Turkey

Turkey and greece

[warped flint]

ima invade greece

[marsh ravine]

Rly? I always find yugo rly easy to kill

Compared to the rest

[hoary mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kusti-cat-kitty-sonar-scanner-gif-714049140285030199

[warped flint]

And of course I forgout about the dumb romanians guranteeing everyone

So I can literally do nothing except invade them

Which wouldnt go well

since the stupid british kept refusing for me to re arm

I did just now forcely but still

Yep im stuck

romanias guranteed to

im done this shits annoying

[wraith mauve]

I am best 600 hour hoi4 player

[warped flint]

I remember when I had 600 hours ago

oh I miss that

6 or 7 months ago

[tulip thorn]

I've always found turkey easier

not to mention can naval invade to make even easier

[marsh ravine]

Fair

Turkey terrain is horrendous tho

When u habe shitter army

[tulip thorn]

True

[blissful grail]

https://youtu.be/YmaH7-xL5qo?si=qF5SwCd6pIUd5rRs

holy W

[hoary mortar]

ima check that out

[wraith mauve]

Ik right

[split bane]

I'm sorry WHAT of Iron

[wraith mauve]

Anyone in tno discord server i need to know a good template for 2nd west Russian war but Im banned from that server

[split bane]

Why don't you join the West Russia war server

[blissful grail]

[wraith mauve]

That exists?

[split bane]

Actually they renamed themselves to TNO Requim I think

[warped flint]

Guys am I making enough planes

[warped flint]

36 width elite inf

[split bane]

Yeah it does, saw someone with their server tag

[warped flint]

Are you sure its not the hoi4 mod west russian war?

[split bane]

That's a mod? Well they had the TNO Requim server tag

[warped flint]

oh that

Am I building enough plens

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[warped flint]

I think im ready to invade the allies

[fair horizon]

Dont forget about naval invasions

[warped flint]

Yeah I have 120 divs on coast guard duty

[dusky burrow]

Romania guaranteese the rest

Czechoslovakia guarantees Yugoslavia

[warped flint]

they both attacked me

tiny ahh axis

Alright ima attack

[warped flint]

Why do the americans decide its a good idea to defend france after they capitulated

there just throwing men at me

My divisons are regaining org so slowly bro

this is pissing me off

[fickle thicket]

decent great war redux offensive template?

[marsh ravine]

8 inf 9 arty 1 howitzer is v good in gwr

Or just 8 inf 10 arty

Inf isnt that good cos it has 0 stats

[fickle thicket]

alr

so kinda like this

[marsh ravine]

Can't see most of tje templates

Gg

[fickle thicket]

imagine theres 10 howitzers in last 2 columns

[marsh ravine]

Artillery not howitzer

[fickle thicket]

damn it

[marsh ravine]

Howitzer is too expensive to have alot of it

Field gun op

U have 1 howitzer cos it allows u to crit more often but otherwise its just field gun spam

[fickle thicket]

k

[ancient marsh]

hi guys

[bronze mango]

Silk Road empire wanst even added smh, although I completely agree with rhe confederate path being pure nonsense

[copper cobalt]

More bearded old men for emperor

[halcyon pasture]

Hoi4 2 when

[fickle thicket]

5*

[slim nexus]

Most probably before GTAVI

[winged field]

Hoi 5 dlcs:
The war for Kiev
Middleast conflicts
The 2nd American Civil War

[drowsy arrow]

Funny guide lol

[vivid sleet]

@tawdry thistle can u join discord chat, ( sorry for the ping i would direct message u but u have that setting off)

[drowsy arrow]

It’s allegedly a Hungary guide

[remote quarry]

"I did the whole math just to make spg on hungary:

[heavy vigil]

SPG d day wall build when

marines are soft and squishy

[wicked haven]

Why would Fascist Hungary embargo Nazi Germany?

most helpful Axis ally moment

[dusky burrow]

No breakthrough?

shockingly I've never seen these for whatever reason

I'm guessing they're MG companies, but why the nations I've played (Italy, the Ottomans) don't have them IDK

[serene inlet]

i need tips on how to break the stalin line in multiplayer

or atleast the river behind kiev

[dusky burrow]

I mean

do you have tanks and aircraft?

[serene inlet]

if i have good italy i can have perfect air

yeah already happened

i played against a tank roacher soviet union

stacked 10 infantries behind rivers

the only way i won is naval invasions

i cant break the line itself

[winged field]

How do you even get that?

[dusky burrow]

Stalin line isn't particularly strong from my experience

[dusky burrow]

ask Minionz222

[serene inlet]

not the stalin line

the rivers behind kiev

up the the rivers in the baltics

[dusky burrow]

Yeah the rivers aren't particularly strong

[serene inlet]

they are

[dusky burrow]

Take Dnipro

Cut them off from the gates of Crimea

[serene inlet]

i just cant tho

[dusky burrow]

and then swing north towards Poltava

The issue with the Soviets in that region is that they have no supply, making it difficult to defend

[serene inlet]

i have no supply aswell

[dusky burrow]

I mean that's the whole point of taking Dnipro

Because that's the main supply hub in the area

[serene inlet]

armtracs are banned

naval invasions are banned

atp its just advantaging soviets like crazy

[dusky burrow]

Okay oof that will make things harder

But yeah what I'm saying is that you should get everything on your side of the river

[serene inlet]

Idk honestly

[dusky burrow]

In the north you should try pushing towards Smolensk, where there's a gap in the river line

If you have more trouble, you can use pioneers

[serene inlet]

there's a gap in vitebsk

[dusky burrow]

Yeah the Vitebsk-Smolensk gap

[serene inlet]

idk i feel like naval invading is legit the only way

cuz sometimes they literally stack forts on the river gap

[dusky burrow]

Then you can try going around their river lines or going where they are weakest

[serene inlet]

s

[dusky burrow]

I mean

Forts are meh

[serene inlet]

crazy debuffs

[dusky burrow]

super-heavy railway guns reduce them to 46.68% effectiveness

And then with assault engineers + flame tanks you get 65% fort bonus

This alone will completely neutralize 9 levels of forts

[serene inlet]

right

i'm playing makeshift bridges that make every tile 80 width

so 40 width divs are ideal

i think 40 widths mediums with armor meme

and pioneers

assault engi

[dusky burrow]

Heavy tanks?

well you pick one of pioneers or assault engineers

[serene inlet]

yeah or

i think pioneers

paratrooping isnt even allowed

[dusky burrow]

You can change templates depending on your current situation

On whether you need to attack south into Dnipro or into a fort line near Smolensk

Template editing

In any case yeah heavy tanks might solve some of your issues

[serene inlet]

do you have the template

[dusky burrow]

idk for msb, but i can ask for you

or in the server i just sent you

[fallen vigil]

whats the best options?

[drowsy arrow]

Hmm

You seem to have the opposite of the problem I have

I always feel like the river line doesn’t do much against a good tank Germany

Even with around 10 million deployed manpower during barb

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[eternal palm]

Depends on the doctrine. If you're on gbp, holding river is very bad because it gives the enemy planning without you being able to click back. So on gbp always hold frontline. If on mw or mass mob hold river and marsh

[eternal palm]

Do not play msb 💀

Worst mod in existence

[eternal palm]

Depends on what you want, if you're going democratic pick the first option if you're going monarchist click last option

[cedar lance]

hello all Yalls

[green moss]

my fav Spanish Habsburg

[cedar lance]

hello

[devout trench]

He forgot which side he was on

[eternal palm]

Nah the chin is already protruding slightly foward

[devout trench]

Already turning into a hasburg ❤️

[eternal palm]

[cedar lance]

hello

yalls

[eternal palm]

With all due respect, if you're saying hello 5 times and nobody answers, maybe nobody cares.

[cedar lance]

oh sorry my bad

[slim nexus]

Royale

I mean depends how much chaos you want to create.

[regal heron]

is this even historical?

[eternal palm]

Read: fk your stability

[eternal palm]

Are u playing sheep mod????

[regal heron]

uhh yeah

🥀

[eternal palm]

Holy shit 🤦‍♂️

[regal heron]

igot my answer ig

[eternal palm]

U don't even grasp the basics yet 😭

[regal heron]

no need cuh 🥀

lemme cook my self

[eternal palm]

I guess it is. Since hoi4 isn't really accurate with portraying colonies

[eternal palm]

What does that even mean 😭

[regal heron]

🍳

[lusty bluff]

Next, I am attacking Austria and Luxembourg, then integrating Italy

[green moss]

Indonesian Colonialism

[lusty bluff]

I just threw the land to one of my puppets

[green moss]

Mittelafrika's cheap copy

[lusty bluff]

wdym

[green moss]

yk that Germany can form Mittelafrika (unique puppet for Africa)

[lusty bluff]

idk

actl

but hey this is my favourite 1 state solution

[green moss]

aight

[lusty bluff]

Ohh I didn't do that path

I did the anglo-german coop

[green moss]

Friendship of two Empires

[lusty bluff]

UK had a very good PR with me until there is something called Fr*nce

which was guaranteeing Belgium

so I blitzed through Eupen-Malmedy and the Netherlands, and into Paris I went with very little resistance

The UK declared on me, and I won several colonial battles in West Africa

[sudden wasp]

modded 10 year run of usa i say it was pretty good

[lusty bluff]

which led to this

[lusty bluff]

Trump's past life

[sudden wasp]

😭

[lusty bluff]

and what are those 85 divs without a commander

and your political power???

[sudden wasp]

troop swam

[sudden wasp]

i didnt have anyway thing to spend it on

[lusty bluff]

I usually do that with army groups

I can field 120 divs

with a single one

now 128

coz of Gerd von Rundstedt

[sudden wasp]

i had to fight bazil and aus for two years not fun

💔

[lusty bluff]

I'd still use army groups

[sudden wasp]

it gets the job done

[lusty bluff]

For me, my next move is to justify against Austria and kill Austria to bypass focuses to integrate Italy before Italy becomes leader of faction

and I would have the largest empire

and a Greater germanic reich

coz the Austrian Mitteleuropa focuses are locked wtf

[sudden wasp]

gang i had to spent 10 years having one cilvil war then taking like 40% of the world while having many wars with everyone

[lusty bluff]

I took around a year to win ww2

maybe a bit more

but around there

The Brits are just a few small rocks in the Pacific

[sudden wasp]

euro is pure border gore

ussr is fighting 75% of the world

[lusty bluff]

insane

[lusty bluff]

This, will happen soon in my save

[sudden wasp]

while having a cilvil war

[lusty bluff]

where I ally China in 1945 and kill the Soviets

[copper sluice]

what do you even do when you're not in Europe

[sudden wasp]

rest of the world btw

[lusty bluff]

Germany cooked

the British Isles untouched

[sudden wasp]

its in china

[lusty bluff]

hwaaaat

[lusty bluff]

I know

[lusty bluff]

how many divs you have in total

I have around 90 now

[sudden wasp]

idk:sob

[lusty bluff]

What's your tip for producing a lot of panzer divs

[sudden wasp]

ussr is been soloing for like 4 years

[lusty bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/ora-punch-fight-meme-gif-16216293

USSR be like:

[sudden wasp]

make shity tanks

[lusty bluff]

I make quite sophisticated ones though

they help carry my infantry

and kill anything they touch

[sudden wasp]

space marines?

[lusty bluff]

no

tank plus a bit of motorised

I only use SMs later game

For example SPAA gets buffs

so I make the Imperial Guard

with plen obliterating function

[sudden wasp]

[misty fossil]

what

[prisma zealot]

time to give the US some european freedom

[tulip ermine]

thunder dragon empire is on top of all majors

[heavy vigil]

no nazi flags/imagery please.

[misty fossil]

o mb

[limpid mantle]

Is colorless political map a common issue when playing on linux using proton???

no outlines

just names

and terrain

[true dune]

switch to OpenGL in the Launcher

[pallid zephyr]

what dose this mean?

[slim nexus]

We colonized them once , we can do it twice

[true dune]

seeing Japanese forces landing from the Atlantic feels so wrong

[outer plume]

anyone knows why my achievements arent popping up ?

[winged field]

Do you play in iron mode?

With normal rules

[outer plume]

yeah im on regular with ironman on

[winged field]

No idea then

[outer plume]

this is currently greece

but im not getting the pesky greeks achievement

[sudden thistle]

The little Italian island between Greece and turkey I think

[outer plume]

omfg

[toxic cypress]

so perceptive 🤩

[slim nexus]

Well

The colors don't help

[uncut carbon]

Hello hoi4 fans

[uncut carbon]

rhodes yes

o mr hoi4 already said that

last time i did any iran achievement it didnt gimme it so maybe its broken

[toxic cypress]

fans is overdoing it

hoi4 personalities

[uncut carbon]

this new dlc better have fun achievmeents

cuz i live & breathe hoi4 dlcs

so it must be good

[toxic cypress]

beat all warlords as shitty warlord number 6 who has 1 mils and no civs with only 70 day focuses

[uncut carbon]

❤️

thanks john pdx

[toxic cypress]

john paradox wants you to play commie japan and do a wc

[uncut carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/yuki-nagato-witch-wand-hat-haruhi-gif-14526364237497096735

[toxic cypress]

but without using any land units

only air and navy

but not indpendent air

must be naval air

[outer plume]

oh hell nah

[uncut carbon]

this was when it freshly dropped tho

this was pre head shoulders knees and toes patch

[outer plume]

please lord... dont tell me i wasted 40hrs on this achievement and its bugged...

[uncut carbon]

assume the best pal

you have nothing to lose

you're already very deep in on this so u might aswell just try

[toxic cypress]

just do what i do

[fading elk]

So fought to protect Europe as Romania with my 3 puppets ended up getting shafted and my 3 puppets became free and in the allies while I got stuck in the Comintern

[toxic cypress]

dont buy the dlc

wait for awhile

buy it

play it

hate it

drop bad review

[fading elk]

Also they balkanised France

[toxic cypress]

play anyway

[uncut carbon]

Ohm y god

jonah

u reminded me

i gotta do a review for each of the dlcs

this is HUGE

[toxic cypress]

lol

enjoy

i would copy paste kanye lyrics

[limpid mantle]

found that out thx

[misty fossil]

what is the ai doing...

[limber jackal]

clearly you dont need to doubt it as its totally doing fine

(totally fr)

[sudden thistle]

If u feel like u got it

And it doesn’t work

Use steam achievement manager to give yourself the achievement

[limber jackal]

wait i can cheat the achievements?

not like ill do it

but thats unfair

[plain tusk]

My fav part of HOI4 is making a cursed post-WW2 peace deal

[sudden thistle]

U have to download an external app

[limber jackal]

oh

[outer plume]

imma give it another run
if it didnt work ill cry

[sudden thistle]

I just got it to fix a achievement since it was 1946 and everything bugged

I love capping the Soviets as Afghanistan 🔥

[limber jackal]

why does the us always lock in on land defense if the brits fight them but they're like newborns if germany is at their borders

[uncut carbon]

yep thats how people have all the payday achievents

[limber jackal]

secret german bias?

[uncut carbon]

or all the tf2 achievmeents

cuz some of them u cannot get anymore i think

[limber jackal]

my friend is actually getting all of them

[uncut carbon]

same for gary's mod

[limber jackal]

he has like 800 h on the game

hes insane

[uncut carbon]

one of the achievement for gary's mod is to be in game with gary himself

but he doesnt play anymore

so its impossible

[limber jackal]

o

[uncut carbon]

so people just cheat it

[limber jackal]

my friend is insane on payday 2 tho

hes got like 800 h

[uncut carbon]

darn nice

im ass

i just shoot people

and take money

[limber jackal]

i have 20 hours 🔥

[uncut carbon]

throw money into van

drive

[snow rain]

the old office achievements from early CS:GO builds 💔

[zinc light]

Isnt it also possible by playing with someone who has the achievement?

[uncut carbon]

idk specifics tbh might be true

if u say it i believe it

[zinc light]

I think I remember something from a YouTube Video 4 years ago
Never played the Game myself, so dont take my word

[fading elk]

I killed 2 mil Germans and end up getting puppeted while my puppets go free

[prisma zealot]

fr same here

[patent thistle]

eh, i have seen far worse starting fleets.

[pastel urchin]

idk why

but im feeling like a total bum

i just cannot win as germany

[devout trench]

they need to make navy more useable for non-european powers (and US)

[tired crypt]

wearing the jumper just screams "DON'T COME NEAR ME WOMEN I PLAY HOI4" #hearts-of-iron-news

[pastel urchin]

real

[devout trench]

playing as ANYTHING that historically didnt have the best navy is nearly impossible to use navy with

let me make my ethiopian light crusier death stack

[pastel urchin]

well its historical

so yeah

[serene inlet]

why

[devout trench]

hoi4 is 70% non-historical

[pastel urchin]

idk

[slim nexus]

Some women like hoi4 players

[pastel urchin]

i fail my naval invasions in uk

[devout trench]

some women play hoi4

[tired crypt]

some? lmao

[pastel urchin]

they dont exist

[serene inlet]

yeah used to be like this for me aswell, want tips?

[pastel urchin]

PLEASE

[serene inlet]

me when i lie

[slim nexus]

Can confirm

[tired crypt]

Don't come near me women I know navy

[slim nexus]

My wife exists

[serene inlet]

okay, what template u using to invade?

where does it fail i mean

[tired crypt]

or does she

[slim nexus]

Yes

She does

[pastel urchin]

so basically i naval invade but then they just crush me on their land

[devout trench]

the men are the boat in my navy

[tired crypt]

only men with nothing better to do sit at the screen wondering what they can do to win

[devout trench]

CAS

[serene inlet]

used to be the exact same with me

where do you invade?

[tired crypt]

@slim nexus do you know navy

[serene inlet]

and what templates

[serene inlet]

cope tbf

[pastel urchin]

marines

[slim nexus]

Yes

[serene inlet]

show it

[pastel urchin]

wait lemme look

[devout trench]

personally

i port encircle the entire british army in dunkirk

[pastel urchin]

i started a new game so

[serene inlet]

okay i see

let me do a list of tips for sea lion

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/greedy-pot-yu-gi-oh-yugioh-gif-1156091889875709808

[sudden thistle]

Larp 🔥

[devout trench]

professional mongolia larper

[patent thistle]

definetly not OP af

[devout trench]

6 free civs is like

[patent thistle]

do you realise i am litterally just east prussia here?

6 free civs for 35 days-

[serene inlet]

1 - Keep frontlines with britain in africa, so their army widens over africa, or even over other territories if you can improvise.
2 - If you're stuck after naval invading, no frontline, do another naval invasion from the other side, this will open up 2 fronts for them and crush them
3 - Use a 36 width marine template with 8 marines, and 10 mountaineers, (support comp field hospital and logistics + sup arty atleast)
4 - Break their code and decrypt it when you launch the naval invasion.
5 - Get the landing gear research so you can naval invade on a wider front
6 - Momentum is key : expanding on the flanks and being fast as possible is what stops them from dropping 200 colonial divs on you
7 - Reinforce instantly with a good tank template
8 - Make 3 collab governments on them with your spy agency if you really struggle
9 - Start convoy raiding them from the start of the battle of france to cripple their economy,
10 - Have a good airforce
11 - Reinforce the naval invasions as soon as possible and do a force attack right when you land to expand quickly

if ur using all this britain is not even a problem tbh

eyes closed

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/pushsupreme-mongoliamode-mongolia-supreme-mongolian-gif-25189013

[serene inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-sick-wow-wowsers-minecraft-gif-10059021701103936359

[sudden thistle]

I think I capped the UK with like 18 shitty mountaineers last time I did it

[pastel urchin]

thanks

[serene inlet]

tbf when you get the hang of it u can do it with like any division really

[devout trench]

average experience using navy

[serene inlet]

i now do it with normal infantry whitout overthinking it but it used to be a big deal when i started the game

[pastel urchin]

because like idk but when i play in multiplayer its impossible

but in singleplayer

i will try

[devout trench]

well multiplayer is different

[serene inlet]

MP sea lion is lowkey easier

[pastel urchin]

idk

[devout trench]

in MP you have less chance of troop spam

[pastel urchin]

cuz in mp they have like half of their army in uk

[devout trench]

quality over quantity in MP

[pastel urchin]

idk why

[devout trench]

unless your doing max width horse divisions

[serene inlet]

this is bad. do 2 on the tiles next to dover and one on dover

aswell as one on portsmouth

thats the best way that works with me

[sudden thistle]

Truth

[serene inlet]

and you instantly expand towards bristol

[sudden thistle]

There is like 10 divs max in the UK

[serene inlet]

player britain put everything in air once ur on land theyre cooked

[pastel urchin]

two tiles to the right?

[serene inlet]

the 2 tiles bordering dover

and dover itself

and portsmouth port

[pastel urchin]

oh okk

[serene inlet]

you need a port to put the rest of your divisions

so make a new front and put alot of shit lowkey

[pastel urchin]

okay

[devout trench]

if you want too you can just world conquest and leave some port garrisons

once you drain their colonial divisions they become easy to beat

[patent thistle]

prussia has factories: 🫸
Prussia IS a factory: 👍

also no i do not know what happend with lithunania there

[serene inlet]

does prussia have a focus tree

[limber jackal]

i once capped france with 12 divs

[sudden thistle]

Exactly

[patent thistle]

not in basegame, this is a mod

fight for the fatherland

[serene inlet]

is it good like can u actually expand early game with this

[patent thistle]

nah i just have some mod that lets me influence states, and considering i got a core on them it makes them easier to influence

i am going democracy cause the industry is hella strong there

[patent thistle]

.

[kind reef]

What happens if I choose peaceful Italy and retreat from Ethiophia

[patent thistle]

noone does that because it reks your Stability early-

just did something we currently dont have

[fair horizon]

Chat why is britian so fun to play?

[pastel urchin]

is reorganize the wehrmacht a good focus for germany?

[patent thistle]

because you dont have to do shit

[patent thistle]

if you want the kaiser after a civilwar? yes

[fair horizon]

But i play commie britian so i do

[pastel urchin]

no for normal germany

[bronze mango]

Reorganize the wermacht is the historical path

[patent thistle]

oh right that one

got it confused

[patent thistle]

usually no

[pastel urchin]

because i think the heed von one is prob better

[patent thistle]

you lose some good generals

[copper sluice]

poor france

[fair horizon]

deserved for being commies

dirty reds

[craggy trail]

[outer plume]

im gonna cry

[fair horizon]

bro you didnt lose

just take them out

quick justification

chat should i play hoi4 or patapon?

[misty fossil]

what command can i use to spawn troops in

my german ai in my game only has 70 divs in 1940

and idk why they arent doing anything

[copper sluice]

do u guys know if people will automatically get mil access to the EU member states if they ask me for it

[shut gazelle]

if I annex canada, the USA says, give me the land or war, but does that also happen if I puppet it?

[sudden thistle]

I mean IT (instant training) works

Or toolpack without the errors

U can spawn in shit

[misty fossil]

how do i use it

just type that in and continue the game?

germany doesnt have any equipment as well

[sudden thistle]

Then give them equipment

[misty fossil]

apparently rt56 on ahistorical doesnt work

[sudden thistle]

ae (number) (equipment name)

[sudden thistle]

Yeah that happens

Ahist German ai is stupid

[misty fossil]

what are the equipment names

is there a list

well that sucks

there goes my game

i was going to try mass mob sov

i started historical but decided to win in spain

[ripe slate]

What??

[misty fossil]

that made the ais go ahistorical ig

[sudden thistle]

Bro

[ripe slate]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3193790043

[misty fossil]

its rt56 and another mod that also changes ai behaviour*

i should not have omitted that part

[ripe slate]

[misty fossil]

its 3am here help me

[ripe slate]

Sure~ bonks with hammer so you sleep

[sudden thistle]

They are prob conflicting

[misty fossil]

ok

[ripe slate]

mhm

[misty fossil]

they have a compatch

[sudden thistle]

Last time though rt56 ahist Germany did nothing

[misty fossil]

real

[patent thistle]

you knows its funny when your puppet is bigger on the map then you are-

[fair horizon]

bro are you playing prussia?

[patent thistle]

fight for the fatherland

[fair horizon]

based

dont hurt poland though ok?

[patent thistle]

per usual i always overkill with the navy-

[fair horizon]

pre-dreadnought 💀

bro where are your cruisers

[patent thistle]

shut i started with those

[patent thistle]

i have 14 dockyards the hell am i supposed to make a light cruisers fleet

i need screening

[fair horizon]

10 on cruisers

i play australia its the same thing

[patent thistle]

i spend most of the game building those heavy ships-

[fair horizon]

didnt even need them 🥀

[patent thistle]

i will need them for a war with the UK

[fair horizon]

bro the home fleet is gonna wipe the floor with your destroyers 💀

empty carriers too 💀

[nocturne cedar]

Are you living in this world or not?

[patent thistle]

carriers will be loaded up

[fair horizon]

technically we already do because its all brazil

[patent thistle]

also dont complain most of the light cruisers stayed with the unbased communists

[fair horizon]

well build more now

[patent thistle]

FINE FOR F*** SAKE

[fair horizon]

:D

[patent thistle]

does not mean i will completly stop destroyer production tho, cause i dont trust myself in building enough light cruisers until the unbased communists arrive

(i just put the 4 remaining dockyards on them)

[fair horizon]

i found that i still produced plenty of destroyers when i had like 5 on them

i needed them to screen all the capitals i took from japan

[patent thistle]

now lets see what this gives

[fair horizon]

destroyers iirc

[patent thistle]

honestly do not know

[fair horizon]

bro spend some pp already 💀

also what mod is that for prussia?

[patent thistle]

i might have forgot about political power-

fight for the fatherland

[patent thistle]

i have almost 1k-

okay lets be honest raeder is the better pick here

for me atleast

[fair horizon]

TRUE

SURFACE FLEET CHAD

[patent thistle]

those are all the subs i have, all of them a shit-

oh its that mechanic.

[fair horizon]

oof

[patent thistle]

okay thats just a move of lazyness, it just straight up summoned and still has the portugal name-

honestly? i have seen far worse from the AI

[fair horizon]

actually thats not bad

[patent thistle]

just changed the name for obvious reasons

[fair horizon]

YOU WOULDNT

POLAND DOESNT DESERVE IT

[patent thistle]

i litterally control danzig my guy

[fair horizon]

oh i didnt see that lmao

[patent thistle]

,

wouldnt want to be the germans rn

[slim nexus]

Idk man

Italy still there

[snow rain]

it's basically the base CL from germany lmao

[patent thistle]

germany is commie

[versed rapids]

when will the dlc be realsed

[patent thistle]

nope the base ones are way worse

[slim nexus]

In 1k hours of game

[serene inlet]

avg soviet mp playtrough

1940 btw

[slim nexus]

I never played a serious german run

[serene inlet]

they getter get ready

[slim nexus]

Is that a 12/0 inf

[heavy vigil]

hohei shidan moment

[nocturne cedar]

king Franco and his "mighty" nation

[last cave]

hist ai on?

its pretty basic

yaltin conferention between

allies and commintern

happened to me too when i play LIT monarhist path

i joined allies

but when UK defeated germany

[versed rapids]

the only country left capitulated but im still at war

why

[last cave]

ethiopian focus three

[agile perch]

guys i need help Now

what do i do

im finland and i took so much land from sweden and russia

soviet i mean

[last cave]

annex northern regio's

[agile perch]

ok how do i do this 💔

[last cave]

wdym how?

[agile perch]

this my first time capturing soviet

i dont know how to play this game that much i only got 100 hours i just been trying to learn the basics

[last cave]

u just choose states like any other peace conference?

[agile perch]

ok

is this good or should i take more

[last cave]

more

take baltics also

u can core them

[agile perch]

Ok. i will show how much land i took from soviet

1 second stay chat pls

[last cave]

and leningrad

[agile perch]

it was this

should i try and take all them states?

[last cave]

no

let also a bit for navy

[agile perch]

Ok

this ? is this good

[last cave]

more

whole batlics

[agile perch]

Ok

i cant take its to expensive.... 😭

i just take this ngl

[toxic cypress]

ima tell u smt crazy

dont take this

[agile perch]

why

[toxic cypress]

go get a resource rich ural state with sea excess

[fallen vigil]

ayyyy

[toxic cypress]

commie australia player?

smt aint right wit ya

[copper sluice]

why are the british always traitors

[last cave]

but its the easist way to get thzt achievment

[toxic cypress]

not really

on historical

[agile perch]

what do i do with this

[fallen vigil]

i only did it for the achievement

[toxic cypress]

pretty sure you can do just a lil and annex it in peace treaty

[agile perch]

do i forefeit or what

[toxic cypress]

take what you can core

general rule

also always take the expensive states first

[sonic marlin]

Hi when does next update release?

[last cave]

nov 22

[toxic cypress]

@dawn mango

[sonic marlin]

Thanks!

[agile perch]

Ok 👍

[outer plume]

i almost missed it...

[fading elk]

Yes

Also If u go communist Romania will u still need to give the Soviets Bessarabia

[zinc light]

Now to take a port

[last cave]

prob

[zinc light]

You can join comintern and refuse, they wont kick you

And they cant declare on faction members

[fallen vigil]

how do i do freegypt

[limber jackal]

why dont my ships not wanna go to exactly north emperor chain

like

they REFUSE to do naval support there

[fair horizon]

range mabye?

just because they are assigned to the region doesnt mean they can reach the part they're supposed to support

one of my biggest reasons for hating destroyers tbh

[maiden gull]

I focused way to much on my other front thinking my other one was ok... Any idea how to fix this shit ?

[fair horizon]

push them back

[maiden gull]

Will do 😭

[ripe slate]

xD Damn, what is your activity

[craggy trail]

[fair horizon]

THATS ENOUGH NOODLES

[maiden gull]

It worked 👍

[fair horizon]

yw

[maiden gull]

Due to Italy joining but I will claim I did it all

[misty fossil]

why is there a emote of pusheen eating noodles in a wargame discord server

an*

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-rex-mlp-ok-who-knows-gif-12173893

[misty fossil]

and yeah im old enough to know that cat’s name

[patent thistle]

lets see which generals did this give me

actually fairly good, (the 2 up there)

[fair horizon]

oliver leese

ncie

[tulip thorn]

idk

ask chak

because why not I guess

[jovial bough]

does reliability matter on a ship?

[dawn mango]

10 days till dlc🎉

[serene inlet]

annex hun

[uncut pollen]

Nice treaty

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-clock-watch-gif-16025864

[snow rain]

basically, you took too long and now they're in exile

[nocturne cedar]

so many troops

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[snow rain]

kinda but not much
basically reliability on ships = chance of a hit taken becoming a crit (2x the damage)

there isn't much you can do to improve it either

[fallen vigil]

this actually looks like irl borders in the soviet german border

[snow rain]

start as UK
open occupation screen
release egypt and tick "play as" and "puppet"
build dockyards, do your industry focuses
lend lease all equipment produced and convoys, once industry focuses are done, do the "increase autonomy focus"
also keep a big ass stockpile of political power

then just wait

[fallen vigil]

alrighty thank you

[snow rain]

you can also build forts, airfield and infra in UK land when you can't build anymore dockyards in your land

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/downfall-movie-planning-map-gif-4994999143087247888

praying for steiner's counter attack

[prisma zealot]

holy russian puppet units

[jovial bough]

But nuclear engines make up for it with speed and range right?

[patent thistle]

influenced some polish stuff before the war with fake germany

[snow rain]

I'd doubt that because of cost and how late you get them

[rocky sedge]

Yes hello it’s me Yue I’m back on a new account

[jovial bough]

I got them in 42-43

[snow rain]

that's way too late already
what about the cost ?

and for what benefits ?

[sonic sand]

ugh i have this song from red world's music mod stuck in my head

but for the life of me i cannot remember who its made by

[split sable]

One thing I'll never understand: why can't we que intelligence agency upgrades like we can for MIO

[sonic sand]

found it

i think hoi4 should add

terrorism

into hoi4

and also

uh

[versed rapids]

respectively stfu

[sonic sand]

forced integration

[sonic sand]

no

turn resistance into terrorism

[versed rapids]

no

[sonic sand]

it already is

[versed rapids]

they should behave like good dog

[brittle cypress]

Because paradox hates us

[sonic sand]

this tbh

[versed rapids]

also make it so you can eradicate a certain specific chosen population

muslims for example

[sonic sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102209883891310693/1430282649334976583/attachment-2.gif

[split sable]

that explains a lot

[snow rain]

because it doesn't make much sense and works well with the current system

[leaden mulch]

🤯

[snow rain]

the real question would be why ?
what would it bring in terms of gameplay and game mechanics

[versed rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843958144370737152/1421051020376670259/image.gif

[split sable]

It makes a lot of sense... you need 5 upgrades for next op slot, you know which 5 you want. Its the same as MIO

[sonic sand]

ok terrorism alright? say you're a country whos had parts of its land occupied by other powers. You can organize a resistance movement with decisions and maybe a new tab.

[versed rapids]

sounds useless and boring imo

[sonic sand]

you can have your resistance target specific things like railways

forts

airbases

[snow rain]

I thought you were talking about upgrades in general, in which case spending 5 civs for an upgrade isn't weird

[sonic sand]

and factories

[snow rain]

that's resistance ...

literally the same thing

[versed rapids]

^

[sonic sand]

yeah but you get to choose what to harass

basically

[snow rain]

you already can ...

[versed rapids]

so just add one singular button

[snow rain]

it's called intelligence ops

[versed rapids]

^^

[sonic sand]

lame excuse of a feature

[versed rapids]

how

it's genuinely useful

and fun

[snow rain]

it's not an excuse, it's already there

[sonic sand]

it doesn't feel like you're commanding a resistance fight for your nation

make it more interactive

being able to make stronghold points

and a dynamic resistance system that the player can control

[snow rain]

explain how to implement that in a way where it isn't just annoying or armored-car tier

[snow rain]

IT'S ALREADY THERE

like cmon

[versed rapids]

why would anyone choose to play when you capitulated anyway

[snow rain]

it would also mean AIs can do the same, it's would just be a pain

[sonic sand]

ai could do what?

[snow rain]

honestly this is what mods are for

[sonic sand]

make the game a little harder?

[patent thistle]

a bit anti climactic that there are no commies here-

[sonic sand]

oh brother

[snow rain]

if you could cap, get annexed and still play as resistance

[sonic sand]

the horrors that the easy AI is made slightly harder

[sonic sand]

after peacedeal no

[versed rapids]

what

that doesn't make any sense

[snow rain]

then what you're asking IS ALREADY THERE

[sonic sand]

yall fr don't understand

[patent thistle]

how btw. just. how-

[sonic sand]

smh

[snow rain]

add niche things to the game

[sonic sand]

yes!

its called content

[versed rapids]

fix usa instead

[snow rain]

that's what mods are for

niche = not relevant in main part of the game

[sonic sand]

why should someone need a mod to play a resistance movement in a war game?

[versed rapids]

quit the yap

[sonic sand]

about a conflict with some of the most prominent resistance movements in all of history

[versed rapids]

sub human

[snow rain]

because the game must appeal to the most people. Also, niche =/= fun
and that doesn't change the fact that' you're asking for a feature which is already there, you just haven't tried it yet lmao

[sonic sand]

mods run his pockets

[sonic sand]

ive played la resistance

im not saying its not there

[snow rain]

lose territory, say as soviets you fall back to the dnieper, you can very much do intel ops to do resistance actions
that's exactly what you're asking for

[sonic sand]

im saying it has so much more potential than what paradox did

[snow rain]

it also has almost no people using it because it's more annoying and micro intensive than anything else and there are more interesting to do in a war game

[split sable]

how do I see which states in Spain have "unplanned offensive" modifier... I dont think I see it in the province modifiers...?

[patent thistle]

a little late-

[sonic sand]

do you agree we should have a better resistance movement mechanic?

[snow rain]

click on any state, see if there's a small icon under the terrain image

[split sable]

aaah ty! 🙏

[patent thistle]

you mean that the fallen country that has cores there can better control it or some?

[sonic sand]

like more control over what the resistance does, balancing the different factions of the resistance and raids on towns and supply lines

and like content for capped countries other than

"well shit Ig no point in playing the game anymore"

an update that allows you to take charge of a resistance movement in your occupied country, harassing the occupiers, hurting their war effort and aiding your allies

and playing politics that changes the way your country comes back into form

[snow rain]

I doubt even 1% players keep playing after cap in Singleplyaer and I'm counting france and netherland which have path to play after cap

[leaden mulch]

You mean Belgium?

[sonic sand]

and for the 1% that do there is just nothing

no content

just waiting

[snow rain]

forgot about them too

[sonic sand]

which is WHY they don't play the game after they cap

what really is there to do?

[snow rain]

yeah, but this isn't a market you want to aim for as a company

there's just nothing to gain by doing this

let mods be mods and create the content for niche stuff

[sonic sand]

and yet its a market that could be reached

[snow rain]

but it isn't worth it. Imagine the work, the manpower and the potential issues that come with adding a brand new mechanic, replacing another one and all that for a ridiculously low amount of players
it doesn't make sense in any way for a company that needs to make money, be realistic

[sonic sand]

instead of having guerilla troops in your army they hide on tiles waiting to be activated alongside militias and resistance fighters, paratroopers can be flown in to help in these behind the lines efforts to aid your allies and help retake your country

not appearing as a physical unit but making resistance fighting much more effective

in the resistance there are multiple camps of ideologies

each fighting for power over the other to remake the country in their image

you as the player need to balance these powers

and use them to your advantage to hurt your enemies

break their morale

or even capture some territory behind enemy lines

i think that would be sick

and then on the other hand

you have counter resistance

where your occupation is required to be effective and you need to uncover resistance tactics or key members

which will eventually lead them to compliance

@snow rain you can't read that and say "nah that sounds terrible"

[patent thistle]

communism has been removed

[sonic sand]

HURRAH

[dusky burrow]

Does the United States still exist?

[sonic sand]

I just want a resistance feature that actually does something cool......

[dusky burrow]

Every American must be destroyed

Trust me I come from the future

[sonic sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[dusky burrow]

nuke new york

[patent thistle]

of germany*

[sonic sand]

communist canada on their doorstep, US: "this is fine"

or maybe its facist

i can't tell

[patent thistle]

commie

[sonic sand]

ok thought so

[snow rain]

I'm gonna say it does
There are already resistance, raids (both with paras and bombers), intelligence operations to : sabotage, strengthen resistance, plant fake intel, capture intel, capture blueprints
Adding what you propose will require more micro for countries that have enough to do already, would be used by so little players and so many AIs it would just be annoying and probably just not fun

And final nail in the coffin, it would require a massive rework that basically no one is asking for on a game that has so many balancing issues and outdated content for some countries all in a recent tendency from paradox to release half baked DLCs and break game balance even more

So yes, I'm gonna say that it sounds terrible

[patent thistle]

never got the commie fleet tho of the commie germany : (

[sonic sand]

alright then i guess i won't post my concept that i think would be cool to play in game here

i just want to talk about fun ideas i came up with

[snow rain]

you can but you need to be realistic. Otherwise, as I said, it's better to think of it as a mod first, then see if it works well

[patent thistle]

soviet expansion into warsaw denied

(demands on poland)

[sonic sand]

couldn't care less for the realism

i don't intend for my minor concepts to get in the game

I just say something I think is cool

[snow rain]

You have to think of other players that probably want something else before a hazardous rebuild of a game mechanic that basically no one asked for

[sonic sand]

and leave it at that

[sonic sand]

well if i actually wanted to push for it to go in game i would make it way more in depth like my previous concept work

i made this one off the random thought in my mind one minute

and just kinda rolled with what i was working with

[snow rain]

To give an example of what I'd like, I'd love to get some TFB mechanics in the game : fleet command limit, 30 combat width everywhere, special forces equipment, 2 combat width artillery etc.
but that's not what most players want

don't hesitate to submit such ideas in the surveys paradox does from time to time though, they might come up with something

[sonic sand]

ofc you had to go on and tell me every way my concept that was never intended to be in the game and was made in under 3 minutes is wrong and why I should burn in hell for even thinking it.

if i wanted to submit it i wouldn't be talking here

[snow rain]

I said I think it's unrealistic to think it'll make it into the game (didn't get that you weren't planing on it) and an unnecessary rework of an already existing mechanic
but after that if you think it could reach the devs then fill it out in one of their surveys, who am I to forbid you of doing that

[sonic sand]

artillery strategies like street by street barrage in urban areas does stratbombing dmg on everything in the province

tada arty has a use kinda

[snow rain]

nah that would be way too broken imo

[sonic sand]

its a giant bomb being shot out of a cannon

thats meant to hit everything in a wide area

[snow rain]

just spam 15w units, and land on any cost with it as prefered tactic then boom, half the industry's gone

[sonic sand]

and you're shocked when it hits a factory or road?

[sonic sand]

has to be on the city

and

add a cap to arty amount per division

[snow rain]

it would be either broken or useless imo
also, there are already damage to buildings from combat (it's just not seen much in singleplyaer games where unit stats are quite low but it's very much present in competitive MP games)

[sonic sand]

to 4

heavily damaged modifier

takes 1.25x to rebuild

and for battles that last super long you can get a fun "shelled to the ground" modifier which is a 1.5

[snow rain]

as I said, it would probably either be useless or broken. And it would almost certainly be annoying imo

[sonic sand]

you don't have to do anything

just

artillery does things

its made to do

shocker

is it the largest shock that people shooting bombs in a city at eachother would wreck the city they're shooting bombs in?

heres a balanced way to balance it

it applies universally

[snow rain]

if you just want combat to damage building then it's already a thing jsyk

[sonic sand]

attacking or defending

[snow rain]

no need for a specific doctrine or arty or anything, you just need high stats

[sonic sand]

it applies universally so using arty on defense will hurt you as much as using it on attack will hurt them

tada if you use too much you risk having your own troops shelling your industry to bits

but using some should be a good idea because then you can hurt the enemies industry

there you go

[snow rain]

once again, it's already there, just not really known about

[sonic sand]

i know\

but make it more prevalent

when using arty

and even moreso

when using strategies like street by street barrage

[heavy vigil]

broken fs

[sonic sand]

its on both sides the same

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt work with the hoi4 tile system

if you can bomb tiles for free its just free damage and cannot be countered

[crystal marsh]

can i, as poland, bypass the compliance requirements by just releasing lithuania as a puppet?

[sonic sand]

if the fighting takes place in a hexagon

then bombing happens

[crystal marsh]

or must i fully reach 80%

[patent thistle]

poland be playing 30 mins of hell lol

[upbeat bronze]

seems like you can't since you need to be in control of all states instead of just having them as a puppet

[upbeat bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-snow-facing-army-jon-snow-gif-23631388

polan rn

[sonic sand]

@snow rain

[leaden mulch]

How it feels to play any minor that is non alligned going up against any of the major factions

[sonic sand]

I play Hungary nonaligned

Its not that bad (its worse)

The axis is an ez clap

Besides romania of all places

Because no supply

In teh mountains

And forts

[leaden mulch]

Fair

I moreso meant like playing serbia not in a faction

[zinc rune]

guys i bought hoi4 but it looks like this, did i get scammed?

[patent thistle]

i have send my elite tank devisions to poland as volenteers

i just want to bleed the soviets tbf

[crystal marsh]

THEY ACCEPTED

LMAO

[fickle cove]

🔥 💯 6️⃣👌😂👌7️⃣ 💯 🔥

[dusky burrow]

Just kill Germany at this point

Or actually maybe not you're still a bit too weak

But you should reject Germany's ultimatum

[copper sluice]

this flag goes so hard

[ripe slate]

The symbol is cool but kinda lame that one of the three prongs is the background too

[copper sluice]

idk what you mean

[heavy vigil]

why not accept both ultimatums and do small poland

[rapid furnace]

whats the best thing to get first in germanys foucs tree

[dusky burrow]

have you heard of something called "the nazis and the soviets being evil"

looks over millions of dead bodies

[zinc light]

definetly the borders of all time