hoi4-general

[limber jackal]

oh

im sorry then

i will bow to you thee sir

[grizzled arrow]

ok i kinda went into a rabbit hole when i realy should be researching

[tepid crown]

Taking a fluid dynamics class now and it’s also incredibly easy

[limber jackal]

ok im sorry bro

[grizzled arrow]

uni?

[tepid crown]

Yeah

[limber jackal]

i didnt know you're built different

[grizzled arrow]

just a solid guess its all calculus

for fluid dynamics

[limber jackal]

i thought you were in like 8th grade and thought maths was a joke

[tepid crown]

Kinda, some of it can simplify down to just basic algebra

[limber jackal]

is calculus not in its raw form basic algebra

atleast calculus 1

integration can be boiled down to approximating an area under a curve with rectangles

[grizzled arrow]

oh

[limber jackal]

limits to like going as close to 0 as possible

like inserting 0.000001

or well

[grizzled arrow]

ok yall can talk imma go nice talking to yallz

[limber jackal]

whatevver the number you put in the limit is

[tepid crown]

Yes but something like finding the double integral of trigonometry functions is quite a bit different than like, 2x=3

[limber jackal]

yeah thats why i said calc 1

after that its not basic algebra

[grizzled arrow]

bro integrals are just summations and summations is just algebra

[limber jackal]

i do dare you to try doing algebra for a double integral of a trigonometric function

i once made a program that calculates single integrals in python

its quite slow cause its well python

i should prolly make 1 in c++

[nocturne cedar]

why tf y'all talking abt math

[valid prairie]

How to stop hoi4 save file corruption?

It’s like every time I reload a save something is wrong

[heavy vigil]

it does that when crashing on autosave

unfixable

[valid prairie]

It never crashes

Just has issues

Like when I reloaded my most recent one

The declare war sound was playing every 15 seconds

With no war being declared

[tepid crown]

What’s wrong with math

[tiny iris]

People don't understand people who wants to use their mind.

[trim pike]

Linear algebra before integrating 💀

Interesting choice but u may find it somewhat difficult bcs of the number of modifiers and difficulty of finding the eqns

What level math is this btw

[grizzled arrow]

im doing a curriculum that NOBODY somehow knows

[grizzled arrow]

prolly high school level

[trim pike]

Tell me

I might

[grizzled arrow]

do you know that?

[trim pike]

💀

[grizzled arrow]

wsp

dawg

tmr???

dawg aint that nov or may

yup

[trim pike]

Nov

Thats mine

[grizzled arrow]

did you finish your AIs?

[trim pike]

Yea way before

[grizzled arrow]

i meant htat

yeah

yo

[trim pike]

Uhrm

Depends on how u develop it

[grizzled arrow]

no clue

so farm

far

my direction is

use the in game formulas then develop from there but with uhh like i assume that the civ tax for all models switch at the exact moment

[trim pike]

Thats not enough to just have lots of models

[grizzled arrow]

wdym by that

[trim pike]

U prolly need to solve some of the diff eqns

[grizzled arrow]

yeye

[trim pike]

And then it might not be enough still

[grizzled arrow]

dawggg

[trim pike]

Basically make it complicated enough

Not just lots of eqns but difficult enough

[tepid crown]

I don’t think I have to go that far into like abstract math for engineering

[grizzled arrow]

i know there will be differential equations but idk what else i need to do

[limber jackal]

bro

seriously tho

[tepid crown]

Those are pretty fun though

[limber jackal]

complex numbers AFTER calculus 1?

[trim pike]

I think the lin alg before

Wait

Why are u doing lin alg

Its not in syllabus

[limber jackal]

urm

first

im bulgarian

second im 7th grade

[trim pike]

Not u

[limber jackal]

oh

[trim pike]

Wait

mb

Yea its u

[limber jackal]

ok

[grizzled arrow]

yo do i call it quits for this idea

[trim pike]

Generally they introduce all of calc and vectors before doing lin alg tho

[trim pike]

Wait no no

I want to help

[trim pike]

But how tho

[grizzled arrow]

YOOOO ILY BUT FR?

how many hours do you have?

[tepid crown]

My school lumped linear algebra and differential equations together

[trim pike]

Probably infinite because nov exam end this week

[trim pike]

At least diff eqns need integration

[limber jackal]

i have 345 if anyone wants to ask me

[trim pike]

He hasnt dont integration

[trim pike]

Whats that

[limber jackal]

345 hours

i suck at hoi4

🔥

[trim pike]

But how did u do lin alg before integration

[limber jackal]

well

[tepid crown]

Tbf though, integrations are pretty easy

[trim pike]

This is math general not hoi4 general

[limber jackal]

im more so watching 3blue1brown's vids on linear algebra

im on like

video 6?

[trim pike]

But its in syllabus?

[limber jackal]

dude

im 7th grade

and in bulgaria

what dont you get brotato chip

im self taught

is it not obvious

[trim pike]

[trim pike]

Depends on what they decide to give

[limber jackal]

i know how integration works

[grizzled arrow]

ok so im gonna do differential equations and some graphs thats my idea and in the graph it will be like a continous function with like 3 functions each representing the 3 variables of infrastructure civs and mils but this is like REALY rough i havent started i only started wiht the intro

[limber jackal]

i just dont know methods for integration

[trim pike]

Hmm

Lets go dm

[limber jackal]

gl muggy

if someone here for some reason wants to dm me even tho i dont know all that much then do dm me

[tepid crown]

True, it’s funny though, outside my dedicated math classes, the calculus of everything has been incredibly simple and easy

[limber jackal]

i mean yeah, outside of class you dont need to calculate the double integral of the gaussian integral or smth like that

atleast i think

[trim pike]

Double integrals

Partial differential

[limber jackal]

could i ask what a partial differentiation is

[trim pike]

Ask brodude he can explain better

Fluid dynamics is nothing but partial differential for its eqns

[limber jackal]

brodude what is a partial differential

[coral gorge]

[uneven fable]

its over. My germany playthrough is cooked now

[tepid crown]

It’s pretty much like a basic differential, except you’re differentiating for a specific variable

[limber jackal]

so all the other variables of the function are treated as constants?

[tepid crown]

Kinda similar to that

[limber jackal]

oh ok

[tepid crown]

They’re pretty simple and easy as well

[limber jackal]

they dont sound that hard

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/offenders-assemble-unsubscribe-podcast-gif-10140888433968315648

[limber jackal]

is there any reason to not just spam subs in sp?

[fair horizon]

you want your surface fleet to kill the enemy fleet for fun

[tepid crown]

Naval supremacy

[limber jackal]

but like

if i wipe out the enemy's fleet

dont i just get naval supremacy

[fair horizon]

wym

[limber jackal]

like if i somehow destroy their entire navy with my sub spam

[fair horizon]

subs mess up fleets

[limber jackal]

dont i automatically get naval supremacy or smth

[fair horizon]

if you blow up their fleet pretty much

[serene breach]

is this enough?

[fair horizon]

no

more

[limber jackal]

M O R E

[trim pike]

[limber jackal]

i should do a naval game one day

[trim pike]

What u looking at sheep

[fair horizon]

[limber jackal]

[trim pike]

Havent seen u here for some time

[serene breach]

im not sure if this is healthy (for enemies)

like 50ICBM in germany

[limber jackal]

urm

calm down bro

you dont need this many nukes

[serene breach]

usa guraranted czechoslovakia so this is why

[unreal raft]

esti stronk 🇪🇪 💪 💪 💪

[serene breach]

Well

now use thermonuclear bombs at moscow

[fair horizon]

what countries can you nuke?

[winged field]

all

:>

[fair horizon]

like enemies

he should nuke every tile in australia imo

[serene breach]

well im against like 3/4 world?

[fair horizon]

scratch that

[serene breach]

i waiting for supersonical jet and then i gonna attack USA

[fair horizon]

nuke liberia

[serene breach]

good idea

they are too much dangerous

[tiny iris]

I am deleting the game. Its so stupid. i was defending the Austria Hungarian empire, then my troops left a tile open. Did not get pushed back, they just walked away even though I assigned a frontline. I have no idea how it happened. But it ruined the entire game. I am so angry, I hate the game, I hate Paradox.

Can they for once just fix their braindead AI?

[fair horizon]

change you cohesion

also they probably lost that tile in a fight tbh

[serene breach]

perfect

gg

[fair horizon]

show news

havent seen the usa nuke one yet

[serene breach]

oh too late sorry

[serene breach]

its just thermonuclear war head why they cant defend that xD

they deserve that for sure

[sonic birch]

Can i use other languages in this chat?

Or only english?

[fair horizon]

i think english only

[sonic birch]

thks

[serene breach]

YOUR liberia

[fair horizon]

alright now nuke all of mexico

[sonic birch]

actually today

[serene breach]

um

[serene breach]

dont ask, i dont know either

1 thermonuclear bomb per day? its not enough

[limber jackal]

whats the best ship type for every mission?

[serene breach]

no idea

bro my cpu cant take this game anymore

18fps

[winged field]

There isn't

[limber jackal]

oh

what missions do i use subs in tho

i heard theyre bad in strike force

[winged field]

Convoy raiding

[limber jackal]

anything else?

[winged field]

Strike force is pretty much useless.

[marsh ravine]

Technically iirc spamming enough light cruisers in sp always works

[winged field]

If you really wanted you could make mine laying subs

[marsh ravine]

Its just for stopping invasions tbh/starting them

[winged field]

Fair enough

[limber jackal]

i have watched a 45 min long navy video

i hope i understand navy now

[serene breach]

there is something very wrong

[tiny iris]

Guys, as Bulgaria, should I focus on nukes?

Or super heavy railway guns?

[serene breach]

dont worry i have 1100H at this game and still dont fully understand navy

[tiny iris]

I know both are shit both I want them for the memes.

[tepid crown]

Just spam light cruisers and death stack and you’ll win

[serene breach]

wtf isn't this overkill?

[tepid crown]

No

[heavy vigil]

rate this AI tank division

[nocturne cedar]

i did it...

https://tenor.com/view/meme-megamind-you-did-it-gif-18211214

[serene breach]

wdym ai

this is maybe overkill

for CAS

[drowsy arrow]

Is it?

[drowsy arrow]

2/10, at least better than some other divisions… ahem

Still pretty bad but expected of ai

[hot patrol]

is this decent for liberia

[winged field]

um no..

[hot patrol]

its supposed to be cheap

[heavy vigil]

also look at this epic fighter model

[heavy vigil]

dont use that lol

youll need low supply usage units if you wanna fight in your region

[hot patrol]

fair

[hot patrol]

peak

is 8 infantry with support arty and engineers okay @heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

try it out for yourself

support artillery actually adds a lot of supply usage

id probably get like paratroopers with logistics companies

[slim nexus]

I had to give priority to production equipment and building speed.

[drowsy arrow]

I remember having 0.07 supply use mountaineer

18 mountaineers I think, even has helicopter hospitals

[heavy vigil]

you really dont ?

you have like what 4 or 5 research slots

1 on plane since no dlc 1 on gun 1 on production

then you have 1/2 left for whatever else

[nocturne cedar]

who's winning the war and why?

[trim pike]

Axis 100%

[nocturne cedar]

qhy

why*

[heavy vigil]

dont battleplan into jungles i guess

[noble citrus]

GUYS

GUYS

I HAVE DONE THE IMPOSSIBLE

I AM WINNING IN WW2 AS ITALY

[sudden thistle]

Allies

[nocturne cedar]

why

[sudden thistle]

They have Cyprus

Duhhh

[jaunty delta]

also Australia

[heavy vigil]

chris

i need help

nvm im stupid i might have the solution

[sudden thistle]

Ik

[heavy vigil]

I PUSHED A TILE AFTER ONLY 760 DAYS

[viscid coyote]

Yooo w victory

[opal nymph]

Battle of Verdun moment

[slim nexus]

I wasn't aware on this rule

[heavy vigil]

its not a rule as much as thats just the easiest way to play sp

in mp you wouldnt because you have allies doing certain techs for you

[viscid coyote]

Yay more victories

I LOVE MY NAVY

[tiny iris]

Why does Italy want Scotland so baddddddddd

[heavy vigil]

its not even my worst ever battle in lenght

[fair horizon]

Cause why not? You can just kill them after the war

[opal nymph]

It used to be the original suez province or something

That's what i heard

[heavy vigil]

what the heck happened to the factions

[heavy vigil]

its like ww1 out here fr

[olive dagger]

am gonna play black ice

i have 200 hiurs and am shit

[olive dagger]

thats a lot for atrition

[olive dagger]

whgat the hell

[bronze mango]

Almost half way

[mellow jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/navy-saluto-military-marina-navy-usa-gif-17203489531959147910

[serene breach]

isn't this too much? btw only thermonuclear ICBM

[olive dagger]

add another 10

[heavy vigil]

the tanks used to be 10 lost to attrition for 1 lost in combat

so i made the radical choice of 100% reliability tanks (waste of prod cost usually because how would you ever attrition that much)

tho i was battleplanning through jungle

[serene breach]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[olive dagger]

guns

5k in battle and 15k ?

4k retrived

but still

massive loses

how do i edit my infantry egq

in black ice

[heavy vigil]

yeah thatll happen

[floral solar]

its 1940 and nationalist china still diddnt form the united front

i lov commie china

[steel summit]

tanu tuva world conquest when?

[limber jackal]

since im bulgarian you should focus on nukes (bulgarian said it so you must do it fr)

[limber jackal]

-54/10

[floral solar]

china be doing anything BUT completing the united front focus

[heavy vigil]

battleplan

[limber jackal]

10/10 battle planning

also how dont you have debuffs on your general

he has 214 divs

[dawn mango]

11 days till dlc

[limber jackal]

change ur name then brotato

[normal zinc]

Still waiting to buy the dlc on its own without the package

[limber jackal]

whats the package even for

[heavy vigil]

mod

[limber jackal]

W to whoever deleted that

[limber jackal]

oh

[heavy vigil]

ignore the number on the left

[zinc light]

So WW2 started because romania formed the little Entente with france, and then refused bessarabia
And Germany declared on little Entente member poland

[zinc light]

Non-historical is wonky

[slim nexus]

I know about it and I know that most of the time China is also deactivated.

Depends on the mod too.

[heavy vigil]

wdym deactivated

you can improve relation button

and theyll give it to you

[slim nexus]

I mean, they make it unplayable.

Have seen some multiplayer games where some Nations were deactivated.

[heavy vigil]

oh in mp yeah

[wraith mauve]

Anyone play novosibirsk tno

[heavy vigil]

yipee

[wicked fiber]

who wants to play with me hoi4

[rough tartan]

How is manchuko rework gonna look like?

Is there gonna be a video about them in specific

[heavy vigil]

:( idk which mod it is but my game corrupted again

depression

[daring geyser]

its the dutch unit pack

[limber jackal]

how do i do the marrying thing

[daring geyser]

youre gonna get events about king abdication and marriage etc

keep clicking the marriage option

[limber jackal]

ok

[heavy vigil]

i think i know which one it is

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1687592060

pretty sure its this

[toxic sapphire]

https://youtu.be/MbSxegnSNaM?si=cSOmOWXqHKkjHq3N
is this still up to date

dead ahh general

[solid dirge]

doubt it

even if it is its gonna be alot harder with the ai upg to uk in götter

[heavy vigil]

nah

early on gameplay is like the same

[solid dirge]

oh alr

[grand wolf]

Its +10% division defense or +5 entrench ment better when defending?

[heavy vigil]

do your units ever move in or out of a tile?

[grand wolf]

I do not know because I just started a Belgium game

[heavy vigil]

defense is usually always better because your units will deorg at some point

and you cant entrench while in battle

but idk it might work for you

[grand wolf]

Alright

[heavy vigil]

entrenchment bonus does deal damage to the enemy

defense doesnt

[frozen sparrow]

HOLY

[toxic sapphire]

so it is possible?

if so is the coup in yugo still possible too?@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

i mean idk i havent watched the vid

if the uk puts their navy up pre war you cant auto launch if thats the strat

but you start with transport planes you could just use paras

[toxic sapphire]

u need to improve rel with yugo

the stop

and then there's a coup

u get to declare

inatant justification

but before that

or after

u justify on usa

i forgot when

and later u cancel

[opal nymph]

Are you doing the speedrun strat?

Where yugo explodes, joins allies, you take out UK and win?

[sonic sand]

you go explodia!

[fair horizon]

8 subs? you'll never financially recover 🥀

[copper sluice]

where are the west indies

[fair horizon]

indonesia

right above australia

[frozen sparrow]

i think the axis might be shightly winning

[copper sluice]

then why are they called east indies anyway 🗿

[fair horizon]

cause they're east of india 🧠

[copper sluice]

where can I integrate the east indies

[toxic sapphire]

yes,I'm back

[pine sphinx]

when will you put the dlcs on discount again i need to buy the last one

[toxic sapphire]

my parents just came back from serbia

they brought back 2 baby chicks

[fair horizon]

gotter aint worth it bud

[copper sluice]

oh

[pine sphinx]

still i cant have one missing i wasnt playing when it came out but now that i am back i need it

[fair horizon]

do you play austria?

[toxic sapphire]

bro will be cooked when he realizes that once germany takes all the land around it he dies

[fair horizon]

if the answer is no you dont need it

[copper sluice]

im not playing historical

so how do I annex the east indies?

[toxic sapphire]

uhh

decisions maybe

[fair horizon]

under your puppet menu

gotta give them stuff and lower their autonomy

[copper sluice]

will I get the manpower then?

[fair horizon]

you get non-core manpower yes

also they have a ridiculous amount

so even though its non-core you get like at least a mil

[toxic sapphire]

I mean they are forced slaves

basically

[fair horizon]

i use them as australia to have manpower

we like to use the term unpaid interns

[copper sluice]

thats what I heard which is why am playing the netherlands now

how many factories of which type to I get xd

[toxic sapphire]

U CAN GET ACHIEVMENTS WITHOUT HISTORICAL?

[fair horizon]

yes

[toxic sapphire]

lowk reichkommats are so useless

getting like 10 tiny islands in the middle of pacific

sounds good enough to the devs

[copper sluice]

which one

[copper sluice]

ermm its spelled kommissariat?

[toxic sapphire]

blabla

anyways back to playing turkey

[fair horizon]

based turk

[opal nymph]

I haven't seen such a patriotic turk on this server in awhile

[fair horizon]

10 million losses for the bosphorus

[copper sluice]

im patroitic for whichever nation I am currently playing

[toxic sapphire]

how long should it take to become SULTAN SULEYMAN

idk how hes called in english

in our history hes called sulejmen

[fair horizon]

same

[copper sluice]

how difficult would it be to annex the east indies without the focus

[fair horizon]

i need australia memes but like its australia...

[toxic sapphire]

jan 9 1943 barely getting anything

GIVE GERMANY A FOCUS TO CONQUER CHINA

[copper sluice]

you mean it will take me until then?

[toxic sapphire]

prob

[fair horizon]

dont you get a claim to your chinese territory?

[toxic sapphire]

thats nothing

[fair horizon]

it means you can war with them

[toxic sapphire]

we need china Korea Japan Indochina

EVERYTHING

we need more Ramen to repair our dockyards

[sonic sand]

one hundred million must die for Istanbul!

[sonic sand]

I would love an earlier starting date for hoi4 that takes place just slightly after the end of ww1 so that we can get all the interwar conflicts

[marsh comet]

I want militärsverwaltung frankreich added so that Germany has nicer borders... Currently I have to give Nord frankreich the northern France but they just give it to the Netherlands instead.

[toxic sapphire]

mods

[fair horizon]

constantinople you mean? 🤨

[sonic sand]

mods is fine

but

like

[sonic sand]

no!

[copper sluice]

constantinople sounds way cooler

[sonic sand]

it does ngl

[sonic sand]

my turk friends would murder me over this statement!

[copper sluice]

well they are wrong

greece >>> turkey

[sonic sand]

is it crazy to think that I have friends from every part of the balkan besides Slovenia?

[copper sluice]

damn

[sonic sand]

and they (mostly) get along?

[copper sluice]

sounds fake

im ngl I don't rly like eastern europe

[sonic sand]

says everyone ever since the beginning of time including eastern Europeans

[copper sluice]

I feel like they are too aggressive

[sonic sand]

I made friends with a serbian trying to become a lifeguard...

[copper sluice]

where do u meet all of these ppl

[jaunty delta]

i love eastern europe

we're like western europeans but with actual morals

[sonic sand]

living in a diverse country for half of a year every year

[copper sluice]

lol

whats a diverse country

[sonic sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[sonic sand]

a country with multiple years under a globalist leader who opened the door for everyone to enter the country

or a country made up of multiple types of people

the former is something like the US or canada whereas the latter is like czechoslovakia, modern day south afrika or yugoslavia

one was a country before it let a bunch of ethnic groups in

[safe wing]

Rome > Greece > Anatolia in Rome total war

[sonic sand]

the other is one that is made of a bunch of different ethnic groups mushed together into one coherent state

@copper sluice

[copper sluice]

I kinda meant what specific country are you talking about i.e. where did you live

[agile perch]

finland a goated country to play ngl

[serene breach]

i guess GG now i gonna betrayal UK and it gonna be my first world conquest

[toxic sapphire]

how do I dismantle a faction

why doesn't justifying on us generate world tension quickly

[celest fern]

kick everyone that isn’t a puppet from your faction

then you can dismantle it

[fair horizon]

did you nuke mexico?

[agile perch]

.....

how

[zinc light]

DAMN

[copper sluice]

being in the axis kinda sucks dude ngl

[lavish rock]

:O

[viscid coyote]

Do you think that the Italian navy is good?

Cause when I play them it seems unstoppable

Like look at these losses

[lavish rock]

how do u do navy so well :o

[viscid coyote]

Good subs

And meat shield destoryers

And then really REALLY GOOD cruisers and heavy ships

[viscid coyote]

Btw the funniest navy to play are the Greeks

In my opinion

Bye bye

[lavish rock]

bye

[copper sluice]

what is this tech exchange thing

[lavish rock]

idk

[neat kayak]

Bro the swiss achv you shall not pass is bugged

[serene breach]

yes

like 50x times with thermonuclear missile

yes this is very useful with no enemies anymore xD

i think this is perfect world order

[finite plume]

Hell yeah

🗣️

[ripe slate]

Ew Heineken 🙃

[glass summit]

y was it deleted?

[finite plume]

Modern leaders lol

[ripe slate]

Modern politicians

[glass summit]

ohhh ok,

wait

[ripe slate]

Please no TFR images because the entire mod is about topics not allowed here

[glass summit]

can I get a hell yeah

i mean nothing here should be against the rules right?

[ripe slate]

Ig

[finite plume]

The French 🥀

[ripe slate]

France is pretty great

for vacation

[glass summit]

depends, i mean cote d’azur is great for beach lovers like me

[dusky burrow]

boooooo

[glass summit]

paris is kinda mid, i mean i would rather go to prague or vienna

[ripe slate]

Smaller Czech towns better than Prague

Its a good city, plenty to see and visit, but smaller towns have better food, might have nature, and are probably more scenic

[jaunty delta]

im genuinely proud of you, well besides the heineken

[rich sand]

is this a good offensive infantry division? i can't find any templates for the current meta

[jaunty delta]

you should not use arty for offensive but for sp its good enough but very expensive

[rich sand]

what is sp?

[jaunty delta]

singleplayer

[rich sand]

oh

i thought artilleries are a must for offensive?

[jaunty delta]

not really. its better to use the 9/1 because the difference between 9/1(9 inf and 1 arty) and 9/3 are not that big

[rich sand]

oh okayy thanks i'll change my template and keep using that from now on

[jaunty delta]

I mean dont be afraid to use 9/3, but only a few divisions. do not ever equip your entire army with that lol

[rich sand]

i was planning to use that template for 2 army but nvm lol

[hallow osprey]

Guys should I feel bad I played mp with my friend in was Germany and I did the worst divs that the earth has seen

[jaunty delta]

KEKW yea dont do that lol

[rich sand]

yeah i'll keep that in mind

though i'm sure i'll keep making that mistake because i'll just forget

[dusky burrow]

better just not to use any artillery at all

you can just advance with pure infantry

and you do

[rich sand]

i did that in my 1st to 5th playthrough but i found it hard advancing

but maybe itdidn't work because i didn't have any tanks lol

[dusky burrow]

try something like this if you just want to do infantry only

[dusky burrow]

yeah you can definitely build tanks

[rich sand]

i like the idea of steam rolling my opps

[rich sand]

thanks! i'll save this one

[dusky burrow]

For the marine version you replace 9 of the mountaineers with marines and then add a mountaineer

[rich sand]

okayy

[upper tendon]

ur ships are just outdated

[rich sand]

i'm assuming that's good for both amphibious landing and mountains?

[dusky burrow]

yes

[gentle saffron]

Hey, if I have an iron man save that keeps crashing no matter what I do, is there anything I can do to fix it?

[upper tendon]

well probably not

[gentle saffron]

Damn. Six hours of Greece down the drain

[upper tendon]

how u had motivation to play greece for 6 hours...

the focus tree is so old

[gentle saffron]

I slog through runs for achievement purposes

I’m trying to get all achievements

And Greece’s don’t seem too bad

[upper tendon]

well if u get all achievements as greece u need multiple campaigns

because focus tree blocks certain things needed for achievements

so its not 6 hours

only like 2 or 3

depends on year tho

[gentle saffron]

Yeah I know that. Eventually I’ll have to do a Tuva run so I have to get used to the pain

[upper tendon]

cant u just go to like 1.12 and use that mod that had cheats for iron man

[gentle saffron]

My computer is kinda slow. I was at 42 nonhistorical. I had just made a peace deal with the Czech entente while in the allies. Took some of Yugoslavia and France was killed off. Britain also made a Yugo puppet in Slovenia and soon after they join the game crashes

[upper tendon]

trust me its not worth it to play as tannu tuva

[gentle saffron]

Yeah but that’s not as fun

[upper tendon]

i agree ngl

but not as painful

[upper tendon]

well if your pc is slow you should reduce graphics settings

[heavy vigil]

circle

[devout grove]

moslty a lot of the countries have the defult focus tree

[wicked haven]

and river crossing

[jaunty delta]

tannu what

[wicked haven]

King George V was an honorary Prussian Field Marshal?

[upper tendon]

||didnt know that playing too much hoi makes shapes look different...||

[fair tiger]

how

[upper tendon]

france probably got attacked by a country that was at war with germany

or allies dont exist

[hot patrol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/umYnbzFC7h8?si=Io3SKW05O2nZekrx can we get a second opinion

[quiet vessel]

you have been sentenced to 100 years of wars in china

[finite plume]

Nebraska can't be that bad 🥀

[devout grove]

the france ai will join any faction if the main faction it is in was dismatled like alies is what mostly france joins

[devout grove]

some mods do that or it just has factorys in that state and the location it is in

[dusky burrow]

I mean that yellow tile should be a major city

Omaha that is

[brittle cypress]

Ever just win a game that you didn’t deserve to win

just did such a shitty Germany build lol

[dawn mango]

17.576 is the possible number of tags

[fading elk]

First time doing Romania so went down the Balkan dominance

[daring geyser]

its ackshually 8 marines

[fading elk]

So tldr got Hungary from conquest, Bulgaria peacefully and invaded Greece while I partitioned yugo, the Germans said no to spitting the Czechs which was sad

Then I went and declared war on turkey

The same day Italy declared war on my puppet Greece

But there is good news

While the homeland fell, Hungary never joined the war so is fine

Also Greece never fell

So we how have a 3 front war with Italy, Greece and the soviets

And soviet Finland

[daring geyser]

cheap def should be support aa instead of support arty (you really dont need the soft attack for roaching) and 16w

defence port division isnt bad but the support companies reduce a lot of org and dont contribute that much to stats? it would be fine if the port garrison was 30w instead of 18, but it's not better than cheap def for roaching

multi role sucks lol, attack divisions too, too little org, line artillery (which reduces almost every single stat), also they arent good for pushing at all, and theyre even worse for defending

id say it's a pretty bad video and you shouldnt take advice from that guy

[warped flint]

So I am gonna play Bulgaria, what path should I do

[dusky burrow]

How did the UK lose egypt

[fading elk]

They lost the Cairo, Palestine and Syria like back to back in a week

[dusky burrow]

wow

[fading elk]

I got the pop up saying Cairo fell

Before I even clicked away I got the one saying Palestine got capped

Then Syria

I was just stuck there wondering what that happened

I only joined ww2 like mid 1940 tho

[daring geyser]

i aint surprised

the ai's gonna ai

[hot patrol]

I was thinking attack divisions should be 34 width infantry

And defensive garrison 16 width

Smth like that

[daring geyser]

this but without the anti tank

use SFs exploit for infi SFs cap OR just recruit a shit ton of inf yeah

[daring geyser]

for frontline 16w, for ports 30w

[buoyant fractal]

and how are they gonna do that?

[daring geyser]

since roaching doesn't happen in ports and to have enough to roach all ports is p expensive

[rich sand]

is this a good defensive template? idk what i should look for in a defensive division

is it org or hp? or maybe both?

i can't make a template that's good with both

[ornate marlin]

i found out why i kept losing in sheeps mod guys

this is groundbreaking news

my tank general was causing me to take a massive penalty that destroyed my stats bc i didnt garrison order it 💀

[heavy vigil]

cheap, org

maybe some attack to bounce enemies

high hp also works really well in singleplayer/in mp if you last stand

[opal nymph]

Someone got Vietnam'd

[dusky burrow]

It's a 6/13 if you don't have the AT, 7/11 if you do have AT, using pioneers

[rich sand]

sorry but how do i know if the template i'm making is cheap?

[dusky burrow]

since we were using assault engineers it's 9/10 without AT

[heavy vigil]

bottom right

[rich sand]

ah okay i see it

thanks

[daring geyser]

Yeah ik the template in the screenshot is wrong (i didnt even make the image lol), but I cba to get a better one, and this minus the at works fine

AT for mountaineer marines is only good for MP D-Day and I always assume people here don't play mp

[copper sluice]

how do I get belgium and luxembourg to approve of unification

[frozen sparrow]

bro why does the uk have 50+ divs on newcastle brehhh

[opal nymph]

lol

[hot patrol]

💔

Infantry is fine man

[opal nymph]

I think I broke TWR

[dusky burrow]

You could use AA in the AT slot

[daring geyser]

Infantry can't get 1000 soft attack even with all modifiers stacked, mountaineer marines can with minmaxxed modifiers + two SFs doctrines from branch specialism

[daring geyser]

Ehh

Tbf you want to be landing or battleplanning with green air

So I wouldnt see why

[upper tendon]

paratroopers exist

[split sable]

its amazing how big the gap between min maxin and ordinary play can be in hoi4:

• bittersteel has ~280 factories as USSR in 1941
• an mp-centric player has ~350 in the same timeframe in their guide

[terse skiff]

what are you defending against

[frozen sparrow]

a bit of sub spam

[terse skiff]

how tf do you only have 280 factories as ussr

[remote quarry]

it doesn't matter

better to not think about template

only thing you have to have is anti air if you won't be having air

[split sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ue6BRtwykU&t=1934s
¯_(ツ)_/¯

[terse skiff]

ultimately low factory count ussr i guess

[heavy vigil]

tac i battleplanned and couldnt break a tile for 760 days

[daring geyser]

skill tissue? ahem..

[terse skiff]

did you forget to activate the plan again

[heavy vigil]

i had it on 😞

[heavy vigil]

it was jungle...

[terse skiff]

was it spain

[daring geyser]

Sovs can get uber eco under the right circumstances

Though for a lot of sovs high eco builds it sacrifices production a lot

Like Ive seen civ greed til 39 sov builds but it causes Soviet prod to be dogwater

[copper sluice]

what did I do to deserve this

[daring geyser]

20 HTDs in 41 instead of the usual 50

[split sable]

the guy also does some "weird" tricks like leaving research slot open to accumulate and then switching first industry research so that you get extra 30 days

[daring geyser]

I remember when NSB came out

There were 500 factory builds

[daring geyser]

That's normal

Called tech juggling

Speeds up techs by 30 days

It's not as useful in SP but hella useful in MP

Cuz in MP you can get techs from your allies and they will always be rushing technology

[remote quarry]

wait

actually

see this

[remote quarry]

I have discovered this🤣

[daring geyser]

Tbf Bittersteel was never a good player

Heard he got better recently but I used to watch him back when I didn't play MP

His tips legit made my gameplay worse

[terse skiff]

like in sp ussr you should be able to get 120 36 width tank divisions by barb

[daring geyser]

Sp USSR is kinda 😴 tho

Do anything and Germany shatters into a million pieces

[opal nymph]

Liking your own comment wow

[terse skiff]

what about the real soviet-german war

having a naval battle

with the german and soviet navy

[opal nymph]

The Red Navy is absolutely terrible

If the Red Navy can win a naval engagement, the Germans deserve to fall

[daring geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432038965183119602/1432039134431543568/2025-10-25_19-18-53.mp4?ex=6901941f&is=6900429f&hm=0f54897e6b1f1899861b6df5191843471a53c019009fd755fb8d0ba5b478ac19&

Now MP USSR

[split sable]

which minor is fun to play as communist to help USSR fight germans?
I played Bulgaria, but I had manpower problems, so while I could confidently hold the fron in balkans, the advance was slow

Romania?

[terse skiff]

mongolia

[bronze mango]

Communist china

[heavy vigil]

no

no state debuffs

[dusky burrow]

mass mob strats

[split sable]

That’s a good one ty

[pulsar galleon]

Hello

I'm new here

[copper sluice]

why does everyone want to kill me man

[pulsar galleon]

What are you talking about? I don't wanna hurt you, I just got here...

[gusty oracle]

hi

[pulsar galleon]

I know I probably should've joined other discord servers for the mods but I decided to join this one as well... I have had some trouble trying to get into HOI4, there's a lot to do and it's quite a bit for me to take in, even though I've had the game for almost 3 years now...

[hardy marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[daring geyser]

please tradeback i need it

my nation is kinda civless

[frozen sparrow]

i don't think anyone is having a fun time here

[frozen sparrow]

1945btw

[copper sluice]

I am playing the netherlands literally chilling and then the uk and japan attack me for no reason

[pulsar galleon]

Oh… It’s just one of those days, huh?

[wispy kelp]

so, guys, I have a problem

i'm doing an austria-hungary run, and I'm winning my war against the german reich. the problem is that I'm running out of manpower, and I'm already at the all adults serve conscription law

this war is turning into some serious WW1 type shit

[wispy kelp]

if I can reach the french border with that bulge there, it'd probably help with my fuel situation

as I could start importing oil

[upper tendon]

delete some of ur army then

like 3 troops

or make army template smaller

[copper sluice]

u guys think if I invite ireland they will win vs the uk xd

[deep solstice]

I ACCIDENTLY CHOSE AN AI RAN COUNTRY

I didnt realize you could pick other nations on your safe and just randomly start playing as them

what is he doing 😭

this gives me anxiety

[crisp folio]

😭 , I am cooked [I at least had a smaller border with axis , but they attacked hungary that controled slovakia so... 💀]

[wispy kelp]

I'd still say I've done well considering my situation

[open quartz]

lmao

i do that frequently

[deep solstice]

see how clean mine is

[upper tendon]

u def dont need that many divisions

[deep solstice]

im such a nice french man

[open quartz]

the AI loves to make total army gore

[deep solstice]

now I wanna look at all of them

im cooking as france rn

[copper sluice]

denmark is so goated

[upper tendon]

how germany has more losses than soviets...

[warped flint]

bro what are the germans on

THEY DECLARED ON ME

LMAO

[upper tendon]

they too confident because british are on their side

[upper tendon]

gl invading great britain as bulgaria

[warped flint]

Yeah ima just

not continue this

I forgot about the stupid croatian rebellion

they should honestly just. not do that some times

its just annoying

I got my army encircled because I forgot about it

[upper tendon]

karelia is indepdent...

[deep solstice]

ts frying me

boi ts germany losing to france

🔥

ts germany so wilted rose 👨‍🚒

OH MY GOD

and 2 weeks later

[deep solstice]

1943 German capitulation

Looks fair to me

japan im so sorry for what happens next

[deep solstice]

are you the soviets?

[ornate marlin]

yes

i finally beat this sheeps mod

now im doing my victory lap

[deep solstice]

yo japan WATCH OUT bro 😭

theres a line from france, through italy, through india

all the way here

this is frying me

not ONE red bubble

ITS BEEN A MONTH

we took down germany and japan in like 5 months 😭

the entire axis and greater east asian co-prosperity front

in 5 months

[ornate marlin]

LESSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[loud pivot]

is this real

[wispy kelp]

I've managed to take Berlin

Alone as Austria-Hungary, with only the czechs to help me

I'm now on the verge of a massive encirclement

I think the war will be easy from here

[wispy kelp]

yup, they've begun collapsing

the squeezing begins

The entire German Army has entered a full collapse

both inside and outside of the pocket

[dapper pine]

Yo lol i got a question why in the soviet tech tree there legit no democracy focus besides just 1 focus it legit just a void ;-;

[split bane]

Apparently there was a proper Democratic path in the White Army focus tree but it was scrapped to have the DLC come out on time

Honestly its a shame, I hope it comes out in a future patch but thats prob not gonna happen

[dapper pine]

Awh is there at least a mod that reworks the tech tree to include a democracy path?

[split bane]

I know Road to 56 has a democratic path in it but Idk if there's a mod specifically for Russia, you could probably find one tho

[dapper pine]

Wait does road to 56 have a democratic path for russia?

[split bane]

Yeah it does, you can put Kerensky in power and everything

[dapper pine]

Yay was worried i had to play millennium dawn to play as democratic Russia

[deep solstice]

I wish you could get achievements with mods on

[dapper pine]

fr I legit almost got 500 hours yet i have 0 achievements since i play with mods alot

[split bane]

I wish Vintage Map was ironman compatible

[deep solstice]

same

im now turning them off

to do some basic ones

like 30 minutes in hel and stuff

trying to do 30 mins rn

we will see how it goes

ive never played poland btw

so this should be fun!

[dapper pine]

wish the best of luck lol

[fresh jacinth]

i did ironman only once to get a few acheivements and thats it

im at 600 hours btw

[deep solstice]

why do I have 15 lovely factories.

this might be the worst starting position EVER

[wispy kelp]

the war is basically over now

germany has been defeated in late 1938

[rich sand]

after 12 runs i finally won against england

[deep solstice]

spaghetti logistics

[rich sand]

but peace deal making my eyes hurt

do i also get the colonies if i annex englanf?

or they will become independent?

[deep solstice]

pretty sure they go independant

I didnt pay much attention when I sea-lioned em

[rich sand]

i don't know how people can annex all of france, poland, england, british raj, netherlands and its colonies without the peace deal being too expensive

I'm pretty sure i saw a guy do that in yt

[deep solstice]

well I am not going to do very well

and hungary brotein 💔

[atomic grove]

yes

if you're talking about the autonomous ones though u need to annex them as well

[rich sand]

ah great

[deep solstice]

WHAT am i supposed to do 😭

LOOK at this

DAWG

[rich sand]

autonomous? what's that mean

[atomic grove]

give up danzig if u dont wanna go to war with germany

[atomic grove]

colonies and dominions

[deep solstice]

30 mins of hel is 1.8 million german casualties

its over

[atomic grove]

basically britain's colonies

[atomic grove]

yeah

u can do a cheesier way though

[rich sand]

so i won't be able to get them even if a fully annex england?

[deep solstice]

gg

damn this is hard as balls

[atomic grove]

doing it how paradox wants you to do it is kinda difficult

[rich sand]

does making them a puppet work

[deep solstice]

im pretty much cooked already lmao

[atomic grove]

yeah

if u dont take them italy will steal them

[deep solstice]

they encircled 20 divisions will I was looking away to take a sip of water

are you serious

[rich sand]

i don't know what i should take in my peace deal lol

this is my first time winning against england so I'm afraid of messing up

[deep solstice]

I lasted a MONTH

[atomic grove]

puppet everything

annex poland

[deep solstice]

never playing this shit again give me back my mods and REGULAR gameplay

[atomic grove]

take war reparations and resource rights

[deep solstice]

starting in 1939 MIGHT be the worst thing EVER

[rich sand]

i tried to do that but it says the demand is too expensive

[atomic grove]

why not play germany

[deep solstice]

you cant

[atomic grove]

if u cant beat em join em

[rich sand]

even though i have 80% war participation

[atomic grove]

oh right i forgot ur trying to get that one achievement

[deep solstice]

this is just the achievement

[atomic grove]

use hatless spider's strat

his donut hole thing

[deep solstice]

I think ill just turn back on my mods, and never do an achievement run ever again

❤️‍🩹

the encircled me in like 2 weeks

lmfao

[atomic grove]

why not play some easier countries in vanilla?

to familiarize urself with some basics

or other things

[deep solstice]

I only use cosmetic mods

I like

[atomic grove]

player led conf?

[deep solstice]

Oh i guess your right

[atomic grove]

oh

[deep solstice]

thats the ONLY one though

I just enjoy the quality of life fr ❤️‍🩹

and either way

I HATE iron man mode

[atomic grove]

why

[deep solstice]

I dont like not being able to pre-save

like earlier today

[atomic grove]

ironman mode is practically the same as not playing ironman

[deep solstice]

I forgot the soviets were just gonna randomly declare on me

so I reloaded a save from 2 months before

[rich sand]

not enough score to puppet england :(

[deep solstice]

its honestly just convenient

[atomic grove]

go to where u find ur save files, and duplicate the ironman save

to "save" in ironman

[deep solstice]

is this genius

[rich sand]

i took some land in canada to have foothold for u.s

[atomic grove]

how much war participation did italy have

[rich sand]

13%

they were necessary unfortunately

they were the distraction for most of England's troops and navy

[atomic grove]

oh wait no i realized its in front of me

[atomic grove]

then how were u not able to get basically everything

[rich sand]

i tried not including them in my past runs but it didn't work

[deep solstice]

honestly though, as someone who plays hoi4 super casually

[rich sand]

i don't know

i have 79% war effort yet i cant take what i need

[deep solstice]

no pre-saves and no mods just make the game too much of a grind fest for me

[atomic grove]

did u atleast puppet malaysia and indonesia

[deep solstice]

I should play as canada and farm achievements

as the US*

[rich sand]

nope

[deep solstice]

the US is such an easy power to play as

[rich sand]

not enough score

[deep solstice]

its just japan and axis that you have to fight

[atomic grove]

you should've done that

[sharp laurel]

the game says "this save is from a another version and can not be loaded" does it mean that I lose my save if the game auto updates???

[atomic grove]

yes

[rich sand]

so i don't annex poland, the netherlands, belgium? that would be enough score to get both indo and malaysia and uk

[atomic grove]

u have to change back to the version u saved that

however

[sharp laurel]

but on steam i did not see it update??

[atomic grove]

no, u puppet them

puppet basically everything, and annex poland

u could create reichskomissariats if u want

[deep solstice]

What nation should I play next 🤔

[atomic grove]

monarchist russia in kaiserreich

[rich sand]

tried puppeting everything except poland and i still don't have enough score

[deep solstice]

I already had my fun as germany

so maybe not that again

[rich sand]

is having only 5.2k score normal??

[atomic grove]

i think you should censor the top left

[atomic grove]

idk

[deep solstice]

gulp

[atomic grove]

guess u cant do anything about that

[rich sand]

thanks for trying to help

[deep solstice]

sneaky german army

anyways

I think I might do a run as the US again

[rich sand]

wait hold on

[deep solstice]

since they were really fun

[rich sand]

what is this

[deep solstice]

?

I just took over the world as germany

[deep solstice]

oh the map