hoi4-general

[craggy trail]

Hello hello!

[hallow pike]

hello

[quiet vessel]

even just play the damn tutorial atleast

it tells you what things are

[hallow pike]

get a load of this guy he plays totorials

[wheat copper]

quick question. have you ever formed the Union of Pangonian socialist republics?

[wheat copper]

tf is happening

[quiet vessel]

you're telling me you never pressed the tutorial button? pack it up bro

[calm delta]

Ppl trying to help a new player and there getting angry at each other I need my popcorn

[wheat copper]

lmao

[hallow pike]

i watched 100 tomy kay dankus and bittersteel videos plus my brother taught me the game

[wheat copper]

I mean I suck at hoi4 but I dont suck

[wheat copper]

bro encircling troops is good to do so always do it

[craggy trail]

I haven't tried a communist South American country just yet, but I have made the whole world Brazil before

[hallow pike]

no shit sherlock

[wheat copper]

w

[quiet vessel]

yet you just told me earlier nobody wants to watch a tutorial video

you're contradicting youself boi

[craggy trail]

And my most recent game just yesterday

[hallow pike]

no i watched videos that arent tutorials

[calm delta]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-stewart-eat-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-3094746547306242594

[wheat copper]

tutorials are the only way your gonna learn the game

[wheat copper]

sigma

[quiet vessel]

exactly

[calm delta]

This is very interesting

[wheat copper]

how much would yall pay for a dlc if it added the whole fking cold war?

[ornate marlin]

anyone play sheeps mod

[calm delta]

£20 at most

[wheat copper]

like I think it was bittersteal that tought me how to play the game.

[quiet vessel]

a couple quid

[wheat copper]

damn

[quiet vessel]

that roman empire bittersteel video carried me

[wheat copper]

w

[wheat copper]

still dont know how to use navy tho. like I put all my ships on strike force and my subs on convoy raiding

[hallow pike]

bruh

[quiet vessel]

i do the exact same. if i see green i couldnt care less

[wheat copper]

yeah lmao

not worth the time learning imo

[quiet vessel]

can't wait for the new dlc so i can micro my boats in battle 😭

[wheat copper]

maybe in the fututre

future

[calm delta]

All you gotta do is put subs on there own and the other ships on there own too and make them do what there good at

That’s what I do

[wheat copper]

hmm alright

[hallow pike]

good run or nah

[craggy trail]

1 death stack of surface ship, smaller groups of screens for convoy escort or submarine wolfpacks for patrolling and convoy raiding. People typically usually make dedicated spotting cruisers on Do Not Engage

[calm delta]

Is it normal to eat the Netherlands by 10 December 1936?

[snow rain]

if you're doing hist germany, there's no real point in doing that

[calm delta]

Iam but I thought it was funny

[calm delta]

Also W discord name

[snow rain]

you just suffer from early consumer goods from economy of conquest

[calm delta]

Oh

[dreamy moat]

what do i do with these armies

[calm delta]

Bruh

Just watch a tutorial

[snow rain]

delete cav and tanks and update designs for the others

[calm delta]

https://youtu.be/d5Yt5_WPbhU?si=lhRVdBlbsD8oojsu

Pls watch this

[snow rain]

if you're a beginner, don't play turkey

[quiet vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqNLVLRvwYU&t=2669s

[calm delta]

That’s what me and another guy said

[dusky burrow]

don't use bittersteel's division templates from 2021 though

[calm delta]

Yh

[snow rain]

DLC version is "why you suck at hoi4" 2025
his templates are not good bu they'll work for first playthroughs

[dusky burrow]

but yeah exposure really helps

[calm delta]

Hello Liva haven’t seen you in awhile

[dreamy moat]

?

i did but theres a lot

[calm delta]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-star-trek-gif-19129737

The one I sent you

[dusky burrow]

oh hit hen

[dreamy moat]

k

[dusky burrow]

*hi then

[calm delta]

How are you

[dusky burrow]

don't hit hens

[calm delta]

I love animals don’t worry

[dusky burrow]

xd

[dreamy moat]

i think ill just refund the game and buy it when its on sale and in the mean time just watch tutorials

[calm delta]

Really

[dreamy moat]

since winter sale should happen soon

[calm delta]

Just watch the tutorial

[dreamy moat]

will after irefund the game

[calm delta]

Giving up already

[dreamy moat]

i said id buy it when theres a sale

[heavy vigil]

yeah you cant really learn it within 2 hours at all

[dreamy moat]

the game is like $60

[heavy vigil]

thats fair

[cold marten]

I think we have a situation

[dreamy moat]

if i buy it on sale i could use the extra money on DLCS

[calm delta]

True

I didn’t think of that

[dreamy moat]

just wanted to get a feel for the game rn

and see how it is

[craggy trail]

The way I learned is watching tutorials and putting what I learned into my playthrough to see if something works right for me.

Watching other people play the game typically works really well.

[dreamy moat]

im definitely excited to try MP

[calm delta]

Get good first and build up a tolerance of getting shit thrown at you from people because trust me it’s very toxic in mp

[dreamy moat]

It’s ok

[faint terrace]

I really hope this new DLC adds a focus tree for Manchuria

[dreamy moat]

I don’t take things to heart

[calm delta]

Then you’d be fine

[dreamy moat]

If anyone gets angry over a game then that’s just sad lol so what do I care

[calm delta]

Just warning yah

[dreamy moat]

👍

[bronze mango]

It is getting an update

[dreamy moat]

I saw a German YouTuber play as Israel which was funny

Was*

Kept asking for money lol 🤣🤣🤣

[calm delta]

No polictal stuff here man

[craggy trail]

[dreamy moat]

What?

It was a HOI4 YouTuber?

[calm delta]

What I’m saying is don’t mention polictal shit in this server

[dreamy moat]

Uh ok? I’m just explaining the video I saw.

[calm delta]

Yh that’s fine

[dreamy moat]

Wow

That’s a big tree

[tulip thorn]

Noodles

[craggy trail]

[calm delta]

Is Manchuria getting a focus tree ?

[bronze mango]

Yes

[quiet vessel]

until you actually understand the game i wouldnt go buying dlcs

it adds even more mechanics

[calm delta]

That’s awesome

[quiet vessel]

which arguably a new player doesnt need

[calm delta]

If he gets all the dlcs then he can learn it all eventually which is good

[coarse willow]

how do i win 😭

i need vienna to peace and preferrably all of slovakia to get it in the scripted peace

[neat kayak]

Ethiopian pros , am i doing good?

[hoary pecan]

guys whats the fastest way to anchluss? ive seen a guy in multiplayer get it in 1936

or 1937

one of them

[neat kayak]

i did it may-june 1936

[hoary pecan]

how?

[neat kayak]

Spamming troop a lot

and focussing only on guns

[hoary pecan]

alright

[neat kayak]

no arty nothing

just guns

[hoary pecan]

do u release them early?

20 percent training?

[coarse willow]

what do i do bro 😭

[neat kayak]

ye

release them asap

[hoary pecan]

alr

[neat kayak]

practice is the key

[hoary pecan]

and then train them?

[neat kayak]

no

just deploy them

interact with the events if you have Gotterdammerung

[jovial bough]

If you wish to use them later

[hoary pecan]

but shouldnt i train them too

[hoary pecan]

i plan on that yeah

[jovial bough]

then yea

[hoary pecan]

their strength is low is that because of the low training

i never usually release troops early thats why im asking

ive deployed lots of troops but i still dont have 24 more times stronger then austria

[coarse willow]

????????

[jaunty gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545713525293711368/1434988688936271872/image.png?ex=690cf7dc&is=690ba65c&hm=b963046ebcc88905a2cba9be1b490cd45731d69866a5ee26314bd31ff4cc00f1&

POLSKA GUROM

[sudden thistle]

did u do mountaineer doctrine

use those to attack

[coarse willow]

i won now

[coarse willow]

ur right i shouldve

[sudden thistle]

oh lol

better late than never

[coarse willow]

doing tank czechoslovakia 😢

[sudden thistle]

1984

[idle onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-does-anyone-want-to-play-alone-hearts-of-iron4-gif-24027448

[fading elk]

So stuff happened

[honest vale]

whens the next time the DLC's go on sale?

[split bane]

Either Black Friday or the Winter Sale

[honest vale]

so it could be in 2 days?🤑

nvm

just searched when black friday is

[slim nexus]

Like two weeks

[dreamy moat]

That’s what I’m saying

I’m gonna grind beginner guides

[feral coral]

Indonesian but bosnian flag, based

[dreamy moat]

Bro I’m actually Bosnian 🤣

[feral coral]

Iz kojeg si grada

[dreamy moat]

Konjic

[feral coral]

Zenica

[daring geyser]

....why are we still here? just to suffer

[dreamy moat]

Bro super

[dreamy moat]

Trebamo igrat kad kupim ovaj HOI4

[pliant basin]

I literally can't take it anymore

[wraith mauve]

Buying hoi4 dlc ❎ buying eu5 ✅

[wet plover]

That makes complete since

[terse heron]

Chat am i cooking?

[inner ocean]

wow

[terse heron]

damm

[inner ocean]

racism off

[neon sigil]

black monday

[inner ocean]

Serbia is reforming Yugoslavia (2022)

[dreamy moat]

LOL

wtf

Why does serbia have control over Bosnia

[inner ocean]

they just got done fighting a war over it

Somehow the border patrol is doing good in the 2ACW

[dreamy moat]

ARTILERIJA 🗣️🗣️🔊🔥🔥🚒🐦‍🔥🌷🌷🌷🥷

[dreamy moat]

Also what mods are you using

That doesn’t look like HOI4

It looks very modern

[inner ocean]

The Fire Rises its an alternative modern history mod of what if 2020 was wayyy worse than IRL

its super fun

[brittle cypress]

The fuire rises bing

[inner ocean]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3350890356

[inner ocean]

lol I hoped no one would see that

[ornate marlin]

ok i admit defeat sheeps mod pooped on my head

germany keeps eating me alive

[inner ocean]

if only

[dusky burrow]

who renamed osaka to hitler

[edgy elm]

Historic German tanks

[inner ocean]

we are so back

[dusky burrow]

loses to fehlingerist austria

[sudden thistle]

Noob

[dusky burrow]

pov paxpa is winning

||like seriously, they hadn't even lost Brest||

[calm delta]

Hmm

[sudden thistle]

Because he quits once he gets pushed a tile

🔥

Hello Mr Brazil

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

[daring geyser]

it's cuz i use a mod that makes osaka from azumanga the leader of germany

[calm delta]

What’s wrong with paxpa

[ornate marlin]

they hated me because i told the truth

[calm delta]

About what

[dusky burrow]

okay thaft's funny

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-in-the-middle-skating-lessons-son-you-know-once-you-start-there's-no-going-back-speed-up-gif-15378995325787517277

[calm delta]

Are you bad at hoi4 or something

[ornate marlin]

no

probably better than you

[calm delta]

.

[calm delta]

Wanna put that to the test

[ornate marlin]

.

[ornate marlin]

.

[calm delta]

You quit once you get pushed back a tile haha

That’s kinda funny

[calm delta]

?

[warped flint]

I remember I gave volunteers to Kosov and made Serbia lose to kosovo

[dusky burrow]

Okay never mind wow they did lose quite a bit

[north spoke]

Lore accurate

[dusky burrow]

irl be like

[calm delta]

Who you playing as

[sudden thistle]

Buddy ur learning and struggling to learn with step-by-step instructions

[sudden thistle]

They are Germany

[calm delta]

I have 2k hours and have beaten alot of people in mp with op metas @ornate marlin you ain’t got a chance

[dusky burrow]

Soviets

Well it's not me playing that's paxpa's game

[calm delta]

Fairs

[dusky burrow]

Seems like they got brutalized precisely in the Brest sector

And now 30+ divisions are at risk of encirclement including tanks

[ornate marlin]

sounds like something a noob would say

https://tenor.com/view/nope-roll-eyes-rolling-eyes-no-smile-gif-26209627

[calm delta]

Why not we fight 1v1 right now

On hoi4

[sudden thistle]

U wanna go in DMs and check that

Double check u don’t have a mistake here and there?

[calm delta]

Wdym dms

I don’t have a mistake

[sudden thistle]

The private messaging

That this app has

[sudden thistle]

That’s what double checking is for ain’t it

[calm delta]

Can’t see it but Yh

[sudden thistle]

Ooh Dankus fan

Cool

[ornate marlin]

ill spare you the humiliation of getting rekt by my never before seen meta strats

[waxen epoch]

, /

[dusky burrow]

This is deeply unfortunate

[grand wolf]

Whats a good heavy tank template as germany?

[ornate marlin]

this information is reserved only for professionals such as myself

[grand wolf]

You are not him

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-sad-upset-boys-gif-9875650972277067921

[grand wolf]

I wouldn't even dare to play multi-player when I cant even beat the ai

[ornate marlin]

facing me would be like battling a chess bot

[mellow shale]

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-in-the-middle-skating-lessons-son-you-know-once-you-start-there's-no-going-back-speed-up-gif-15378995325787517277

[ornate marlin]

people dont dare mention my name (like voldemort) out of fear i will destroy them

[grand wolf]

So i use the grandmaster ai to beat you, got it

[dusky burrow]

but they got bricked so who do you turn to

any case singleplayer or multiplayer

[ornate marlin]

my commanders are lying to me

medium tanks are the answer

lower ic = more tanks

[trim crater]

what??

[grand wolf]

What

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

Bricked

[trim crater]

Nuh uh

[ornate marlin]

no but seriously

what would happen if i matched german ai tanks 1 for 1

[grand wolf]

Quality >>>>> quantity

[ornate marlin]

whos gonna win

[grand wolf]

The better quality tanks

Whats the ai gonna do when I pull up with 10k soft attack divisions

[ornate marlin]

mine are better quality but im losing

[grand wolf]

Skill issue

User error

[sudden thistle]

not u

[sudden thistle]

nice tanks u got bro

[ornate marlin]

ai cheats

my templates are better

[dusky burrow]

I think you have bigger issues

[calm delta]

Ok I bet you can’t even survive in a mp lobby

[grand wolf]

I could

[ornate marlin]

im banned from mp because i beat everyone

[grand wolf]

As Nepal with neutrality

[calm delta]

Not talking to you man

[calm delta]

Talking to this fraud

Anyways gonna leave it be

I really don’t care

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[calm delta]

Just like annoying people who think there better then everyone else haha

[ornate marlin]

you pinged me like 5 times after i didnt reply to you

💀

[calm delta]

Didn’t ping I replyed to your message

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-iron-man-stark-industries-age-of-ultron-gif-19489613

[calm delta]

Anyways how is everyone

[grand wolf]

I got a whole 73 heavy tanks

[ornate marlin]

im busy destroying sheeps mod

[grand wolf]

Getting destroyed by*

[ornate marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-mad-rage-gif-1039797606637862203

[inner ocean]

is this a warcrime?

[misty fossil]

only 300 soft attack?

[sudden thistle]

why are u asking me

[misty fossil]

Skill issue

[sudden thistle]

its not even mine 😭

[misty fossil]

not when there's no one to punish you for it

[maiden solstice]

the other factons suck ass at fighting, i'm 100% better trust

( i destroyed 2 encirclements from the nationalists, have pushed them back somewhat, recovered disbanded army, etc etc )

i also got volunteers from portugal and the falangists only have the germans on their side because the italians are in a civil war

the russians got pulled into a civil war so

[wraith mauve]

My computer can runhoi4 but not Fortnite

[sharp sierra]

fortnite is graphical

[maiden solstice]

there's a buncha open gaps im cooking

[sharp sierra]

maybe fortnite is lagging you because of all the bitcoin mining processes going on in the background of the application

[maiden solstice]

( i'm doing this on ironman and regular soo )

[sharp sierra]

yea

[maiden solstice]

oh hey the portuguese got into a civil war now i'm fully on my own now LMAO

[maiden solstice]

epik

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[maiden solstice]

holy shit

[maiden solstice]

i didn't think i'd make it LMAO

the falangists capitulated

[sharp sierra]

playing anarchist one made me realize how easy it is to just end up winning

doing it fast is another thing tho

[maiden solstice]

and the chinese is beating the japanese what are the odds dang

[maiden solstice]

being genuinely honest it's been very slow progress 😭

[sharp sierra]

yea i cant stand playing it

portugal is way funner

[maiden solstice]

let me cook now

yar har it's a rare badge ajhahah

[maiden solstice]

THEIR DOING WILLIAM THE CONQUERER TYPE SHI AGAIN

they did what the germans couldnt

[maiden solstice]

i won

[deep solstice]

Erwin rommel had so much aura the world had to nerf him by making him a Nazi

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-2088247993237804628

[ornate marlin]

mech or amtracs for soviet tank build

[wraith mauve]

What does head Neuraths do?

I’ve never done it before

Hello?

[wraith mauve]

Real

[dusky burrow]

France deserves it

[vernal crescent]

chat

what's the most amount of stats you've ever had

(this is modded btw)

[devout trench]

Age of imperialism

[warped flint]

I had like 6K soft attack without trying to get insane soft attack

[devout trench]

I racked up around 18k attack

Soft btw

[misty fossil]

11000 breakthrough with GARRISON troops???

23k soft attack in eaw

[sudden thistle]

i aint winning!!!!!

[idle onyx]

lol the supply thats like 15 soldiers sharing one sandwich

[sudden thistle]

the Sublime ottoman state has defeaten all agressors within the balkan and italian regions

[marsh ravine]

Didn't ask dont care

[idle onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-scream-scream-if-you-love-scream-if-you-love-hearts-of-iron-4-hearts-of-iron-4-hoi4-gif-2835444177999722035

[deep solstice]

first time ive EVER seen them win

oh but when I play as germany you guys get crushed

japan these days man ✌️

[near schooner]

why th is the railway gun in the water

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/david-martinez-mag-dump-blick-david-blicktinez-cyberpunk-gif-15887120100692089819

[grand wolf]

Sea rails

[near schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[grand wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[warped flint]

What can I do to hold against germoney

[grand wolf]

Give them what they want thats how

[near schooner]

Green comintern

[warped flint]

No

They will take a shit ton of stuff

[drowsy bronze]

idk why its green

[warped flint]

Im just not giving them half my cores

[wraith mauve]

I need help with smth

Is light self propelled arty better then medium?

[misty fossil]

new edgerunner episode?

didnt they say they're going to release s2 some time

[misty fossil]

no

anything with 'light' in front of it sucks except for light armoured recon

[wraith mauve]

Yes sir

[urban frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/carlos-biologia-biology-senator-armstrong-carlos-biologia-gif-24527296

[wraith mauve]

Tuff

[urban frigate]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/carmen-literatura-asignatura-agustín-matemáticas-luis-física-gif-15490691067768243216

[near schooner]

Beautiful

7 research slots

[wraith mauve]

Bro

[urban frigate]

incredible

[wraith mauve]

U will finish entire reserch tree by 1945

[near schooner]

plus this

[wraith mauve]

Are these good pics for inner circle Todt Hess and goebbles

[wraith mauve]

1944 instead

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[wraith mauve]

Ty

I haven’t played germany since August ive been playing Russia a lot

[urban frigate]

Lienchtenstein the hyper power of the world

[wraith mauve]

No Luxembourg moggs

[urban frigate]

nah

san marino better

do you guys recommend me to buy dlcs?

[wraith mauve]

YES

The game is basically dry without DLCs

[urban frigate]

I try to play with mods

I like playing as argentina or brazil

[split bane]

You've never seen the nationalists win the civil war? I'm guessing you don't play historical too much

[urban frigate]

I always play historical and 60% of the time the republic wins for me

[urban frigate]

what dlc should I buy first?

[wraith mauve]

No step back

[urban frigate]

ok

thanks

[wraith mauve]

Then gotterdamerung then la resistance or the one that includes plane designer

[dusky burrow]

well you are transporting it to another port

[devout trench]

insanely wide front with soviets

[maiden gull]

Do do I accept?

[wraith mauve]

Yes

[maiden gull]

Kk didn't know it would assist them since I'm fighting them

I might have 200 hours but I really really suck

[wraith mauve]

I have almost 600 hours

Still don’t know navy 🫩✌️

[warped flint]

Thats liiterally nothign

[wraith mauve]

I figured

[warped flint]

I still feel small with this

[echo barn]

guys

[wraith mauve]

Tuff or nah

[echo barn]

how do i beat the soviets

[wraith mauve]

Normal template

Grand battle plan only attack in winter and colab governments

U also wanna have 3 main battle fronts

One towards Kiev one towards Moscow and one towards Leningrad

Once u fully occupy Ukraine Belarus and Baltic’s establish reichskommisteriates for more compliance and manpower

And eliminate France first

Use infiltration for grand battle plan

[brittle cypress]

only attack in winter ?

lmao

[wraith mauve]

Not joking u get a debuff

Oh and stop every once and a while to maintain org

[echo barn]

how am i losing

[wraith mauve]

So u can beat usa but not ussr

Zoom in on front

[wraith mauve]

Your allies are probably disrupting ur supply

[echo barn]

what do

[wraith mauve]

Go on to all ur supply hubs and click the flag with a

X next to it

And that kills ur allies supply and they will probably withdraw

And hover over motorization level and set to the 2 trucks

Make sure u have trains

And click on ur field marshal

And motirization priority to 3 trucks

[dusky burrow]

your units are understrength too btw

[echo barn]

thx ggenius

[wraith mauve]

Do u have supply now

[dusky burrow]

hmmmmmmm

[wraith mauve]

Ok so how long do u think it will take for me to kill Poland

[sudden thistle]

update before i go to sleep

I have made ataturk proud

[wraith mauve]

Great War redux?

Or kaiserdux

[sudden thistle]

yeah

[wraith mauve]

Nice

[sudden thistle]

its 1916 thats not kx

[wraith mauve]

Mb

Good job it’s nice

[sudden thistle]

i know

[fickle thicket]

tno referenced?

[wraith mauve]

Yes

It is

It’s tuffer than axis right?

[fickle thicket]

axis even more tuff

[wraith mauve]

Can u get out a stop watch please?

And tell me how fast I capitulate Poland

[fickle thicket]

too tired

[wraith mauve]

Type shit

[sudden thistle]

google a stopwatch

[dusky burrow]

a week

[fickle thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274052083397562409/1287044807520419892/PoPivu.gif

[wraith mauve]

3

2

1

Go

2:11 seconds

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

RIP Poland

[wraith mauve]

Ya

[dusky burrow]

2 seconds

rip poland

[wraith mauve]

2 minutes 11 seconds kinda long tbh

My best is 1 minute 43 seconds

[dusky burrow]

Oh two minutes?

Huh

Fair

[wraith mauve]

Bro ussr declared on Latvia so I have to postpone invasion of France

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

I guess just declare on both latvia and estonia now

[wraith mauve]

Latvia Estonian are in my faction but Russia has terrible debuff son ther army so this should be easy

[sharp laurel]

why my fleet needs repair even when im not in war??

[brittle cypress]

u were training it, perchance?

[devout trench]

Fleets get damaged during training

[dreamy moat]

Guys next steam sale is in like 2 months

Should I wait that long to save like $25-$35 on HOI4 lol?

Winter sale starts in December so

[wraith mauve]

I was microing Russia then France made a breakthrough on magionat and I had Kiev and Moscow

So I just gave up

Try again tomorrow:(

[plucky sedge]

Don’t give up because one defence fails 💀

You can bring it back

[fair horizon]

build light cruiser

[devout trench]

Hoi4 is nowhere near worth the off-sale price

[dreamy moat]

yes almost $60 is crazy

[devout trench]

Fun game, But just too repetitive to spend triple A title cost on it

Hoi4 imo should be in the 30-40 range like most other paradox titles

[dreamy moat]

agreed

wait

wtf

CK3 is $15

[devout trench]

Yeah

[dreamy moat]

while HOI4 is $55

[devout trench]

Onsale price

[dreamy moat]

wtf

[devout trench]

Ck3 is 40 dollars here and like hoi4 is 60

City skylines damn near 30

[fickle thicket]

hoi onsale is usually 15

[dreamy moat]

this is messed up

a newer game is cheaper than an older one

tf is this logic

[devout trench]

Ck3 imo is better than hoi4

Runs so much better and much more smooth UI

Just feels better to play than hoi

[dreamy moat]

yea im torn between which one to buy

$90 for all the mods on CK3

i mean DLCs

mb

plus base game

[split bane]

Yeah it's on sale rn
It's usually $67 CAD

[dreamy moat]

yea just checked $40 without sale

still cheaper than HOI4

[split bane]

Which is the same price as Hoi4 (again, CAD)

[dreamy moat]

wait nvm those r not zeroes

theyre 9's

[split bane]

Huh, CK3 and Hoi4 are both the same price in Canada and they usually go on sale for around the same price

[dreamy moat]

made a mistake. thought the 9's were 0's

[split bane]

Ah, alright

[dreamy moat]

i have 11 hours to decide

buy CK3 or wait till HOI4 on sale in like 2 months

[split bane]

Depends on what you like more
If you want more dynasty and kingdom management, choose CK3
If you want more war and WW2 stuff, choose Hoi4

[wraith mauve]

I need la resistance for free anyone know ways? 🫩✌️

[dreamy moat]

i like both which is the problem

i played CK3 a bit in the past on game pass and it was fun and all

[wraith mauve]

What does ur user say?

[dreamy moat]

but just so much to do and i didnt have DLCs

[dreamy moat]

user???

[split bane]

You can get one and save up to get the other later

[devout trench]

If you want relaxed gameplay, choose ck3

If you want to give yourself a aneurysm, choose hoi4

[wraith mauve]

Name whatever it’s in Ari I

Aribic

Mb for spelling

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[split bane]

Think he means your nickname

[wraith mauve]

Ya

[dreamy moat]

Bosnian

[wraith mauve]

Is that what it says

[devout trench]

I thought Bosnian used Cyrillic?

[wraith mauve]

Im speaking American

[dreamy moat]

i put it in arabic because Bosnia was under ottoman rule

[devout trench]

Oh

[dreamy moat]

so why not 😂

[wraith mauve]

So u lik ur country being subjugated Im confused?

[dreamy moat]

my country agreed willingly to go under Ottoman rule lol

[wraith mauve]

Oh mb

[dreamy moat]

there was no problem in it

[wraith mauve]

Do u like NATO and the us

[dreamy moat]

sure?

[wraith mauve]

Yay🎉

[dreamy moat]

NATO is fine US is eh

[wraith mauve]

No🥺

[dreamy moat]

thats what i feel

[wraith mauve]

I love my country

[dreamy moat]

thats good

👍

[wraith mauve]

Lots of people who don’t like there nationality

They piss me off

[dreamy moat]

yup

[wraith mauve]

Like wdym u wanna be Russian ur Canadian gng🫩✌️

[dreamy moat]

some people just like the language or aesthetic, idk

[wraith mauve]

Ik I speak German and English

Fluent in English i almost know German fully

But I would always choose America over germany

[dreamy moat]

so were you born in germany or America?

[wraith mauve]

America

[wraith mauve]

I also love God

[wraith mauve]

Kick the nazi scums back to Berlin

[warped flint]

12 more years....

[wraith mauve]

Ya praying for ur sanity

[warped flint]

It honestly goes by fast

But for now im done

its late

Rest of russia rn

[wraith mauve]

Depends

[wraith mauve]

U got this bro

[warped flint]

They will reunite regions, I am stuck doing nothing untill 1969

[wraith mauve]

Russia and germany are my favriot nations to play in most mods and scenarios

[wraith mauve]

I believe in u

[tiny iris]

Guys, a heart is used to pump blood so if its made of iron, wouldn't you die?

[inner rose]

As a doctor I’d say no

[winged field]

Only if you are allergic to iron

[inner rose]

Are u Arab

I’m not reading all that lol

Because the grammar is wrong

[heavy vigil]

no modern politics please.

[plain dome]

anyone have EU5 discord link?

[dreamy moat]

No

[limpid field]

puppet and the puppetmaster are in different factions

[dusky burrow]

India isn't a puppet of the UK I think

[cursive oxide]

how do i flip comie as france ? cus im doing that part of the focus tree but there whas never a button tho flip it whas just poof civilwar

and i lost cus my army whas in spain

[dusky burrow]

Force the Issue forced you into a civil war?

[dusky burrow]

Oh

[cursive oxide]

just did some focuses that just gave me more cominsum support

[dusky burrow]

Huh that's strange

Maybe you didn't ban the leagues and that caused the revolt for some reason?

[toxic sapphire]

MUSSOLINI?????

[dusky burrow]

I mean raids like that did happen IRL

But what can 9 destroyers do

[toxic sapphire]

he made a naval inv

after

made it to birmingham n died

[dusky burrow]

Oh nice

and unfortunate

You can try next?

[toxic sapphire]

yes

idk why they invading cuba tho

@dusky burrow

[dusky burrow]

At least it's possible

Try to land another army and take London

Good luck

[toxic sapphire]

first succesful naval invasion ever

surrounding london rn

[dusky burrow]

Looking a bit iffy imo

[toxic sapphire]

going good

[dusky burrow]

Also don't forget Dover

[toxic sapphire]

yeah i am sending another inv to it

WHAT

@dusky burrow@dusky burrow@dusky burrow@dusky burrow

[dusky burrow]

Dude

[toxic sapphire]

how in the world

[dusky burrow]

I didn't mean send every unit to London and ignore the flanks

[toxic sapphire]

no

thats not what heppened

[dusky burrow]

Also where are the rest of your armies, shouldn't they have landed?

[toxic sapphire]

theu killed them im reinforcxing but they left london unnatended

they have so much support

harder than i thought

[dusky burrow]

Oh huh

[toxic sapphire]

comeback

[dusky burrow]

Send in more units

here's a tip to keep tiles for a small period of time

detach a division on that tile, attach an unused general, and last stand

that will give you seven days to keep that tile and reinforce it

But it'd be brutal for that unit, so this is situational

[toxic sapphire]

lacking naval supremacy im tryna tho

[dusky burrow]

You don't need naval supremacy to send units from port to port

you only need naval supremacy to attack a tile you don't own

So yeah create a frontline order on London with 24 divs on it

[valid prairie]

how to cheese anschluss

[dusky burrow]

spam 2 widths

[toxic sapphire]

TYSM

[dusky burrow]

set like 20 factories on guns

[toxic sapphire]

IM WINNING SO BAD

[dusky burrow]

You're welcome, good luck

[toxic sapphire]

\

[plucky sedge]

Chat is EU5 good?

[still loom]

https://youtu.be/qnMlGIxydjA?si=S1l6k6ijIuPGC2rq

Even after years, still useful

[toxic sapphire]

how do I quickly produce navy bru

[drowsy arrow]

Easy

What kind of navy you after

Supremacy or navy to beat ai

[toxic sapphire]

supremacy

[drowsy arrow]

Spam battleships with minimal modules

[toxic sapphire]

I wanna bombard the uk with troops

[drowsy arrow]

Supremacy is determined by manpower on the ship

[toxic sapphire]

dont it take years of research or no?

[toxic sapphire]

and one to defend them bc uk murdered my 100 ships with 60

and had like 10 casualties

[drowsy arrow]

You start building cheapest battleships

And then set them on strike force

That will grant you the supremacy

[toxic sapphire]

I want it for naval invade tho

[drowsy arrow]

Another easy was is to make naval bombers damaging the British fleet forcing them to repair

Then you can reign free

[toxic sapphire]

I managed to attack the uk but they blocked all support from entering the captured dockyards

I got like 1/5 of their land before getting pushed back by fuhahh usa

anyway imma play Austria for the first time ever

@drowsy arrow mind screenshotting it

cant get it right

[drowsy arrow]

Just cheapest battleship

And ofc don’t send it into battle

[copper cobalt]

ah the paper tigers

will dissolve if it leaves port

[hot patrol]

https://youtube.com/shorts/K26phWjEc-8?si=lKj7iTq90QeuaiWc

[heavy vigil]

leaving port is optional anyway

[copper cobalt]

not an option!

[heavy vigil]

it is you can move from port to port

[copper cobalt]

The only expendable navy is the one stolen from the enemy!!

[copper cobalt]

yeah I don't build much navyy

[simple citrus]

help

[copper cobalt]

Dockyards take up room for mills

[simple citrus]

why gen so dead bruh

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-meme-notyouraverageflight-notyouraverageflight-meme-not-your-average-flight-gif-15102885231826256493

[heavy vigil]

you start with them tho

thats enough to build from

[copper cobalt]

ah if it's one of those nations yeh

[heavy vigil]

?

theres only 2 nations with a navy but no dockyards

and i dont think youre playing them

[wheat orchid]

What strategy do you guys use when playing uk

[copper cobalt]

Well yeh but like some have very few

[eternal palm]

🥱

[heavy vigil]

thats still enough lol

[copper cobalt]

o.o

[wheat orchid]

Do you intervene and protect France/ poland / Netherlands

Because i tried defending maginot and got clapped so hard

[heavy vigil]

i made like a carrier (maybe 2 i forgot) by wartime as canada doing no naval focuses

[copper cobalt]

woah if I'm not playing UK or Japan I just put them on convoys lol

[heavy vigil]

just for supremacy spam

[copper cobalt]

ahh

[sudden thistle]

Make factory

[copper cobalt]

And subs

[sudden thistle]

Make equipment

Win

[heavy vigil]

bad strat but ok

[wheat orchid]

yea i did

im at like 141

[copper cobalt]

well no I just avoid it

[wheat orchid]

mils

1940

[sudden thistle]

I think that’s good

[copper cobalt]

+works against the ai 😤

[wheat orchid]

but i tried to defend maginot

like 1yr ago

and got like

24 divisisions got clapped in maginot

and 24 in defending netherlands

i lost like half of them

[sudden thistle]

How can you even manage that

[wheat orchid]

idk

[heavy vigil]

no air no mils

[wheat orchid]

im onl;y like 50hrs in

[heavy vigil]

or bad air

[wheat orchid]

im ass man

[sudden thistle]

I recommend getting better at the game

That usually helps

[wheat orchid]

im quite good

for 50 hrs ig

[heavy vigil]

dont be your own judge

[wheat orchid]

i mean

im not good

but for like 40-50 hrs

ig

i do quite well with germany or usa

but with uk its really hard for me to do well untill usa gets involved

[sudden thistle]

All u have to do is win North Africa

Defend the med/homeland

And don’t lose with air

[wheat orchid]

oh well

im cooked then

i forgot to reinforce my north africa armies

[heavy vigil]

how many planes did you make

that looks very low

[wheat orchid]

idk

is this enough

[heavy vigil]

thats ok

its not good but its ok

[wheat orchid]

egypt palestine and everything else all got taken by italy

[heavy vigil]

thats about what id have on fighters in 1938 as japan lol

[wheat orchid]

when italy joined allies i forgot to reinforce any of the front lines

i had tried though

[heavy vigil]

yeah that happens if you put no units there

you need africa because its your only dam state

in south egypt, aswan

[wheat orchid]

i had organised them all well aswell

like theatres armies etc

[heavy vigil]

ehhh

you sound overconfident in your ability and are giving no info on the many places you probably did go wrong

[wheat orchid]

no

im not confident at all

[heavy vigil]

well from the way you word your actions you sound confident in doing the correct things

[wheat orchid]

idk tbh

my things were organised but there was only like 1 division of colonials in every region

i think

the reason things are going so bad for me in this save is because i failed miserably in defending maginot and got like 2 armies encircled

[willow plume]

yeah that doesnt sound good

[wheat orchid]

its rlly bad#

and when i do germany

i do well

untill america gets involved

like i can take poland and france and everything else near europe pretty confidently

and repel the brits

[willow plume]

i swear the default german ai is op

because they always take over the continent unopposed

but they never make navy

[willow plume]

wait cant u choose not to go to war with the usa

irl germany was the one who declared war

[wheat orchid]

i dont think so

idk

maybe if i dont let japan join axis

[willow plume]

yeah i think this is the way to go

[wheat orchid]

i rlly need someone to help me learn this game more

[copper cobalt]

O.o you'd be on a time limit to take UK before the US joins

[maiden harbor]

does sub spam still work?

[sudden thistle]

The German AI is even more op in sheep’s mod

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[still loom]

So uh, what's this expansion pass 2 thing?

New dlc?

Name doesn't sound like it

[drowsy arrow]

Hmm

[still loom]

I have been off from hoi4 for a while now

Last new dlc I have seen was that German one. The Götterda... uh whatever

[drowsy arrow]

I prefer the older simpler German focus tree

[safe wing]

I don't but to each their own

[heavy vigil]

no

its less actually assuming no player intervention

in vanilla the german ai is given reasonable designs + divisions + only nation on dispersed which is good for ai

while the others are wayyy more trash

the only reason vanilla ai ger doesnt sweep all other vanilla ais every game is because they mismanage occupation ☠️

and supply i guess too

[eternal palm]

Literally skill issue 💀

How is vanilla AI a problem?

[eternal palm]

Have you even played hist sheep mod?

[heavy vigil]

yes and ger is scary

[eternal palm]

They're so much stronger than vanilla

[heavy vigil]

but allies are scarier

yeah theyre stronger but comparative to their enemies theyre weaker

[eternal palm]

As ger, sure

[heavy vigil]

imo

[eternal palm]

I guess that's fair. Ger vs allies is scarier for ger than ger vs sov is for sov

[heavy vigil]

cuz like imagine youre playing sheep ussr you can lose half your country and be bailed by the allies

not in vanilla

[safe wing]

nothing 22/0 cann't beat

[eternal palm]

Exactly

[eternal palm]

Can't beat you mean?

[heavy vigil]

vanilla allies wont do shit for you

theyll gleefully watch you die and throw a 3 division d day

[drowsy arrow]

Maybe he doesn’t have any support companies in it and is using equipment 1

[eternal palm]

Many such cases unfortunately

[drowsy arrow]

And is on mobile warfare doctrine

[heavy vigil]

new challenge for you

[eternal palm]

Win with gun0?

[drowsy arrow]

44 width divisions lol

[heavy vigil]

beat the game no research mobile warfare ger

[eternal palm]

Holy shit no

[heavy vigil]

its not that hard

org

[safe wing]

I'm Poland RN why would I use mobile warfare divisions

[eternal palm]

Mw Is like finr

[drowsy arrow]

Mw for org

[eternal palm]

Loses to mass mob but it has its uses

[safe wing]

sorry mis reply

[eternal palm]

Mw l r mountaineers

[safe wing]

I'm doing massmob as Poland

[eternal palm]

Or mech mob

[eternal palm]

As u should

[heavy vigil]

its a doctrine where you have to play very specific ways or it is actual trash

[drowsy arrow]

I remember doing that before

[eternal palm]

Yea

[heavy vigil]

like if you have air + speed then mw is pretty good

if you orgwall then its like yeah its fine

if you do literally anything else its just the worst doctrine

[eternal palm]

Worse than sfp?

To Me sfp is the worst

[heavy vigil]

less stats

[drowsy arrow]

At least you can get tactical withdrawal though from sf

[eternal palm]

There isn't a single case where gbp isnt better

[heavy vigil]

yeah

sfp isnt great

actually no its best as china

but its not rlly good as anyone else

[drowsy arrow]

It’s for small width divs

[eternal palm]

And defense

[heavy vigil]

its the mass mob doctrine

[eternal palm]

Ironically

[heavy vigil]

i should make a mod that just swaps the names

[eternal palm]

Man this game is designed like shit

But I feel like if they would fix doctrines they'd throw off the balance and I don't like that

[heavy vigil]

gbp to sfp, massmob to sfp, sfp to massmob

thats like half the issues with the system

mobile warfare is technically correct in name?

not good for tanks but yk the name isnt wrong

it lets you move faster

[eternal palm]

So is grand battlePLAN

[safe wing]

Most un modded strategy games i play are grossly unbalanced

[heavy vigil]

wait

i mistyped

i meant massmob to gbp

[eternal palm]

Cuz they're like 20 years old?

[heavy vigil]

im a bit dumb

[safe wing]

Like as Gaul in Rome total war you have to spam elite units or your screwed

[drowsy arrow]

At least hoi4 doesn’t make your ai allies worse and enemies better whenever you play

[eternal palm]

I'd like that

[drowsy arrow]

And there is room for manuver

[eternal palm]

AI allies are useless anyhow

[heavy vigil]

sheep does

[drowsy arrow]

Just go set enemy buff to max

[eternal palm]

Not enough

I barely notice a difference

[heavy vigil]

play CA mod

[drowsy arrow]

Tag them

[safe wing]

AI co op in Rome total war is non existent

[drowsy arrow]

Research all

[eternal palm]

U have to debuff yourself

[heavy vigil]

thatll buff them

[drowsy arrow]

Manpower 1000000000

[eternal palm]

Nah see that's cheating

I'd like for it to be organic

[drowsy arrow]

Design meta divisions

It

[bright arrow]

Play ai disaster saves then

[eternal palm]

Sheep mod exists for a reason

[bright arrow]

Where you inherit all the stupidity of the ai and try to salvage them

[eternal palm]

What did I say. I want it to be organic

[drowsy arrow]

That reminds me of that Japan disaster save from sheep mod

[bright arrow]

Grow a tomato

[eternal palm]

That's not what I do disasters for. I wanna help people learn by playing them

[eternal palm]

Fk off

[drowsy arrow]

I feel like people don’t learn when you play disaster save for them though

[eternal palm]

If stream it and explain I do

[drowsy arrow]

To learn you have to do it yourself

[eternal palm]

Which I used to do

[heavy vigil]

i have a save for that

[safe wing]

Play Rome total war to see a classic game with bad balancing and questionable historical accuracy

[eternal palm]

Well yea that doesn't mean tips and tricks are useless

[heavy vigil]

creep fix this ai disaster

[eternal palm]

No

[heavy vigil]

its in sheeps mod

[eternal palm]

I refuse on principle

[drowsy arrow]

I thought it didn’t work anymore though

[heavy vigil]

thats my save not sheeps save

[drowsy arrow]

Oh

[safe wing]

Only two factions can hope to compete with the Roman factions that being the Seleucids and Egypt

[heavy vigil]

would you like something in return for streaming you doing le epic disaster save

[eternal palm]

I would if my Internet wasn't cheeks rn

[safe wing]

If you are a barbarian faction forget it unless you can speedrun

[eternal palm]

I moved recently and don't have a contract yet

[drowsy arrow]

You could record then upload

[heavy vigil]

btw the save has i think 70 divs encircled

maybe more

i kinda forgot lmao