hoi4-general

[toxic sapphire]

it isnt your just ah

[sly elm]

thats not correct, its 1941 and theyve been holding out since 1940 cause im a facist nation, i had to influence them to be atleast 30 procent facist

[toxic sapphire]

no?

you have 1 division per tile vro

what were u expecting 💔

[sly elm]

what are you on about? its my new part of the front line ofc my divisions are still in transfer :/

claiming someone is shit at the game from a picture of the AI is insane

[toxic sapphire]

prove me

[toxic sapphire]

well yeah you losing to belgium and netherlands

[sly elm]

im not playing as germany...

those are my allies

im egypt

[toxic sapphire]

god what timeline on earth is that

[sly elm]

can you not tell that yellow division colour is the player??

you must be trash at the game

[tepid crown]

Nah, I know

[toxic sapphire]

mine are green

[viscid stirrup]

russia in this mod is democratic

[sly elm]

fr?

mine are yellow

[toxic sapphire]

here

[tepid crown]

Thought they were more populist

[sudden thistle]

Because u have nation colours on

[green plume]

why cant i beat through belgium as germany anymore

wtf happened

every run its so ungodly difficult

[sly elm]

no they're always yellow

[sudden thistle]

Ur prob dumping like 300 divs in Belgium

[green plume]

48

[sudden thistle]

Other nations have their nation colours

[green plume]

should i do like 24?

[sudden thistle]

It is on

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[green plume]

aight noted

ill try that

[sly elm]

yes but my divs are always yellow, doesnt matter what nation i play

[sudden thistle]

U got any offensive divs?

[green plume]

also whats the BIS infantry division template as germany, still 40 width right?

[sudden thistle]

Well that’s new

[sudden thistle]

No

16w although ur starting inf div is fine

[green plume]

16 width really?

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[green plume]

can u give me a good template?

[sudden thistle]

For infantry?

[green plume]

ye

[sudden thistle]

Remove one inf battalion from your starting division

[green plume]

thats it?

aightso belgium caps

now half of belgium exists

and now its impenetrable

germany=ass

buff germany

like wHAT

this whole dlc made germany so unbelievable mid to play.

its not fun

[fresh jacinth]

bro how can you even say that

[safe wing]

Imperial Germany is peak

[green plume]

belgium is a impenetrable fortress

[fresh jacinth]

use mot infantry re re

[safe wing]

Lol its not

[toxic cypress]

since when

[safe wing]

Use tanks or 22/0

[green plume]

i mean bro i got 24 divs and they dont die

[toxic cypress]

bombers>

[fresh jacinth]

have you heard of logistics

[green plume]

tanks are going in the grinder

[fresh jacinth]

you prolly got no equipment

[green plume]

got air superiority

CAS

and it wont break

[safe wing]

What are your templates

[sudden thistle]

I think ur just bad

[green plume]

16w infantry units now

[sudden thistle]

Accept the truth

[safe wing]

This

[green plume]

i mean i slam with USA

germany is js butt

[fresh jacinth]

this is horrible

[sudden thistle]

What are you using to attack

[marble igloo]

I literally suggested removing everything that wasn't giving heavy attack.....

[green plume]

16w infantry units, 4 divs of tanks

cs ion got that many

[sudden thistle]

Show tank div

[green plume]

France used to be a cakewalk

[fresh jacinth]

someone need to look at this bro screen for him or something

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/kryonax-skull-gif-26476587

[green plume]

could never produce that many tanks

as eraly germany

[fresh jacinth]

also why is there soviet and american troops fighting with the french

makes no sense

[sudden thistle]

Ur Germany

U can

[green plume]

cs i did ally with the USSR for fun

[tulip thorn]

💀

[green plume]

got 400 in stockpile

cant

[sudden thistle]

Noob

[green plume]

15 mils on it

[fresh jacinth]

bro is using anti tank as tank

[tulip thorn]

Thats it

Really

[fresh jacinth]

or wtv that shit is

[green plume]

was told its meta

[fresh jacinth]

if you have down syndrome

[tulip thorn]

tank destroyers are a mp thing

[sudden thistle]

Then put more on it?

[green plume]

89 mils

not that many to use

[tulip thorn]

Put like 40 on them

Also thats not very many mills

[sudden thistle]

That’s a lot more than 50 Hungarian mils

[tulip thorn]

You should have atleast 120 as germany by the start of the war

[fresh jacinth]

why do you have a my little pony pfp

[tulip thorn]

Because I can

[fresh jacinth]

clearly i see i have made a mistake

[green plume]

idk what happened to germany bro

they made it 50X more complicated

might js play no dlc

[fresh jacinth]

the dlc makes getting nukes actually make sense

[green plume]

it did nothing but make germany complicated otherwise

france used to die in a week

now im 3 months in

/annex france has been done

[fresh jacinth]

bro there are actually hella people in this server with my little pony pfps wtf

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

Equestria at war

brings us in

[green plume]

well ill play germany again once it actually makes sense

[viscid stirrup]

peak

[green plume]

these tanks dont do shit

[sage plover]

ello lads

[fresh jacinth]

oh damn i forgot ab out that mod

i didnt know people actually played it i thought it was a joke

[tulip thorn]

Really

[sly elm]

ah yes, thank you france i totally wanted memel

[tulip thorn]

Lots of people play it because its one of the best most high quality mods on the workshop

[fresh jacinth]

nah, lol TFR or TNO is top tier modding

maybe even The Old Blues mod

[tulip thorn]

TNO is mid

[green plume]

nah fr tho i went through bitt3rsteels guide and did everything PERFECT. nothing

[tulip thorn]

OWB is pretty good

TFR is fun

[green plume]

was he using mods?

[tulip thorn]

TNO is the definition of mid

Just a interactive visual novel

[fresh jacinth]

L opinion but everybody is entitled to their own beliefs

[tulip thorn]

And you can go ahead and enjoy your laggy visual novel slop :)

[fresh jacinth]

ok bronie

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/drink2-gif-6141879685012473169

[sage plover]

whats TNO?

[fresh jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/agartha-vril-gif-18348636242305830162

[sage plover]

</3

[tulip thorn]

A mid mod

Run by mid people

[fresh jacinth]

its a dope mod

[sage plover]

like the great war redux?

[tulip thorn]

Way worse than the great war redux

[sage plover]

cant even give mild suggestions without getting banned from it </3

[tulip thorn]

Great war redux is atleast fun

[sage plover]

fun mod, just run by the CCP

[tulip thorn]

idk to much about the people who make it

[fresh jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-i-hate-you-anakin-i-hate-you-i-dont-like-you-gif-18829084

[tulip thorn]

Lots of people do

[sage plover]

its known for the server basically banning anyone and everyone who dares speak anything bad about it

like, mild criticism? banned.

a suggestion? gone

[tulip thorn]

Pretty much the same in tno

[sage plover]

what does TNO even stand for </3

[sudden thistle]

Because they are bad

[tulip thorn]

The new order

[sage plover]

ooh

whats the base

[sudden thistle]

Just do these for tanks

[fresh jacinth]

this ninja obese

[sudden thistle]

Germany won ww2

[sage plover]

oooh alr

[toxic sapphire]

GUYS I NEED HELP

I COMPLETED DEMAND SUDETLAND A MONTH AGO

[clever elbow]

lol

[toxic sapphire]

I DONT HAVE IT

[sage plover]

bro got rejected </3

[fresh jacinth]

ur so screwed lol

[snow rain]

you don't even need to upgrade the radio nor add armor ticks (lvl1 radio with 0 armor ticks is enough to never get critted by AI)
but that's just detail and min-maxing then

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snippingtool-life-hack-supertool-gif-19420393

[snow rain]

do you have a wargoal against the checz ?

[tulip thorn]

I forgor

[toxic sapphire]

no

[clever elbow]

did the czech agreeded?

[fresh jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/суд-доказательства-оправдание-аниме-черно-белый-gif-10580577784041148520

[snow rain]

he's have a wargoal if they said no

did you disable AI ?

or did that focus get bypassed ?

[green plume]

btw how tf do people do anschluss by 1936 may

[toxic sapphire]

ill just justify

[green plume]

im sitting here doing everything theyre doing and i end up sitting in mid april 1938

[tulip thorn]

By spamming units

[toxic sapphire]

template with 1 infantry

[green plume]

jesus..

[sage plover]

isnt it based on men in the army now?

[brittle cypress]

22 factories on gun day 1, make a 2w infantry division

spam out as many of them as you physically can

[green plume]

what i thought

[brittle cypress]

and it's easy

it is

[sage plover]

i swear they changed it to like, how many people are in the army

[brittle cypress]

yes

[toxic sapphire]

yes they just spam infantry with 1 infantry in the template and slowly revert them to the desired unit

[brittle cypress]

that is how it works

no

you spam 2w infantry because it checks for equipped manpower

[toxic sapphire]

they also deploy them when they have 0 exp

usually

[green plume]

is USA still stronger than germany in general?

[brittle cypress]

no

[sage plover]

im just sayin, monarchist germany is better anyways </3

[green plume]

no?

[brittle cypress]

germany is stronger than USA by pretty significant amount

[green plume]

but they can produce more men, at a way faster rate

[sage plover]

monarchy my beloved

[toxic sapphire]

yes but germany has better focus tree imo

[brittle cypress]

no

germany gets more factories

[sage plover]

thats because germany is actually updated lol

[brittle cypress]

and has better factories

[green plume]

aight nvm

[sage plover]

i swear they havent updated USA since the game began

maybe added some alt hist stuff

like w the UK

[green plume]

i thought so

lowk

yeah lowk when the USA rework

[sage plover]

same focus tree, some alt hist stuff plopped on

[sage plover]

im waiting for the UK rework

[toxic sapphire]

usa focus tree is litteraly just making european bases for "protection"

[green plume]

Uk and US rework

cs UK is always mid

[sage plover]

cs?

(im abit daft if u cant tell)

[green plume]

cause

[sage plover]

oooh

in all fairness it has some nice mechanics

[green plume]

oh of course dont get me wrong

[sage plover]

like the whole north american colony thing

[toxic sapphire]

ah yes

[sage plover]

its just the focus tree is 2 lines

and their combined with facist focus tree

[green plume]

hell yeah

[sage plover]

ngl

i HATE

HATE

the turkish focus tree

with a PASSION

[green plume]

how fun is alt history facist US

[toxic sapphire]

British focus tree is just puppeting and annexing

[sage plover]

puppeting and annexing land u already had 90% of the time

it makes me sad as a brit </3

in all fairness though, we already own half the globe

not much room for expansion

[tulip thorn]

The alt paths for the usa are largely horrible

But I guess the fascist one is the most passible

[sage plover]

u do get to get mcarthur as a leader

kinda peak

[toxic sapphire]

I wish we could get brat tito as a leader 💔 (only balkans understand, translated : brother tito)

[craggy trail]

We're making progress!

[sage plover]

peak tito

only guy who could unite most of the balkans for more then 2 seconds </3

[toxic sapphire]

the guy who's whole country cried for a year since his death btw

[sage plover]

only guy who played both sides of the cold war

[toxic sapphire]

OH YES

THE YUGOSLAVIAN DECLINED GIVING ME SLOVENIA

FINALLY SOME FUN

[hearty totem]

TheVanguard of Mexico stands strong!

[bronze mango]

soviets are easy

[umbral agate]

if i convoy raid someones resources do i get them?

like if i steal germanys chromium will i get it

[bronze mango]

As far as I know, no.

[devout trench]

Convoy raid is when you just sink the enemies ships

You don’t steal

[devout trench]

Transport ships*

[tulip thorn]

A piracy raid would be wild ngl

Stealing lend lease

[devout trench]

Intercepting land trade and land lend lease

[craggy trail]

@tulip thorn It's not going well. I got pushed out of East Anglia

[tulip thorn]

rip

[devout trench]

Ck3 reference

[hearty totem]

whats planning speed

what does it actually do

[tulip thorn]

How fast your units plan

[craggy trail]

Ok. I got reinforce memed

23 divisions are gone

[eternal palm]

It builds planning at a base rate of 2% per day

[craggy trail]

I gotta try this later

@heavy vigil I'm not sure I like using pure infantry divisions for naval invasion

[heavy vigil]

Why no marines

[craggy trail]

I wasn't sure I was going to get naval superiority so I went for paratroopers instead

[heavy vigil]

I am like the biggest marine glazer

[heavy vigil]

As who i cant rlly read rn

[craggy trail]

I'm doing the Macau my day achievement

[eternal palm]

Oh god. This is not good. For naval invasions u want large divs, so 36w even pure inf works

[craggy trail]

So I reunited Portugal and Brazil

[eternal palm]

Flame tanks and rangers are good too

[craggy trail]

Germany did nothing so I'm left with my divisions to hold out

[heavy vigil]

Oh thats easy

Eat up south america

Youll have a better navy than most nations

In terms of projecting supremacy*

I would not let it get into a battle

[craggy trail]

The biggest problem for me was holding off the UK after actually landing

[eternal palm]

Yea 22w gets you reinforcememed into outer space

Bad width

[craggy trail]

I feel like if I attacked from Plymouth, the outcome would be a lot better

[eternal palm]

The place of landing doesnt matter too much its mostly what you decide to land with

u just need to take a port

[dusky burrow]

you're getting deported to brazil

[heavy vigil]

Well with your divisions its quite tricky

Youll need to land on the sides, not get pinned while you encircle the port and attack from land

[craggy trail]

Maybe I need to invest in anti-tank

[craggy trail]

I had held the line about here until i started losing more equipment from convoy raids

[green plume]

whats the best medium tank tempalre?

30 combat with right?

[craggy trail]

I suppose marines or mountaineers would have been a better option than paratroopers,

[eternal palm]

ok 20w is better, still not that good, maybe reduce width to 16w, or go up all the way to 36w

[craggy trail]

Or cavalry to a degree

[eternal palm]

How would cav have helped exactly?

[craggy trail]

Taking more states before the enemy could mass their divisions

At least that was what I thought

[craggy trail]

35-36 combat width

typically 8-10 medium tanks to 8 motorized/mechanized divisions

[umbral agate]

whats a good inf templete for holding/ pushing

[tulip thorn]

18w with support artillery, anti air and engineer company

[umbral agate]

arent signals good?

for reinforce rate

i think they have that

[tulip thorn]

I guess, I just never really see a reason to use them

Like what they give is good, but kinda expensive

[merry flare]

Hey there
If anybody is from Texas send me a pm please
I have a school assignment about Texas and need to interview couple people

[umbral agate]

why come to the hoi4 discord

[tulip thorn]

Asking in the hoi4 discord is crazy ngl

[umbral agate]

is that the first place that came to mind

[merry flare]

no im kinda desperate at this point

[scarlet wagon]

Hey all just wondering if you guy think Hearts of iron 4 sould go on PS5

[merry flare]

oh hell nah

[scarlet wagon]

?

@merry flare why

[merry flare]

weird

like, playing with controller you mean

[scarlet wagon]

Ya

[merry flare]

cringe if you ask me

[scarlet wagon]

I don't think it's cringe I think it a good opening for the world and people that don't have a pc

[hot patrol]

whats the keyboard key to decline smth

[hot patrol]

it's not built for console, besides its a 13 year old game or smth

[loud shuttle]

June 6, 2016

[hot patrol]

damn

more modern than i thought

but still

nearly 10 year old game

maybe hoi5

[loud shuttle]

nah i dont want a hoi5

hoi4 is good as is

[bright sinew]

Hey all

So I am curious - I saw this mod a long ass time ago: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2787722968 then I found this https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=911365423
And I just saw this video -
https://youtu.be/0CQhBN9vqtw?si=SPnGKmY-JM8G7QI3

are there any mods that like

do something

extremely dumb and stupid to the game like this

like eg

you play as a uh, house as your nation

and your foci are

"Join the Home Owner's Association(you join the Axis)"

"Go your own way(you begin training people to take rifles up to your roof like the LA riots to stop your neighbors from taking over your property and building fences[there is a decision that builds a level 3 fort in the province after 30 days of taking it...]" etc

id love that lol

Zoning War 2

[azure palm]

I absolutely hate training navy... always having to be repaired and all

[bright sinew]

bahh

just gotta get uh

damn its been a while... the skill on the admiral that lowers critical hit chance and damage and also screens and screens and screens galore

also nav bombers on patrol

doesnt recon also have a percentage buff to navy in provinces you throw it over(which is like one of the only reasons to get recon planes?)

[hot patrol]

peak late game hoi4

[hot patrol]

there is one like that

with focuses like get outside

purge the rats out of the closet or smth

i dunno the name though

ay

[hearty totem]

whats planning

[hot patrol]

ayy

[hearty totem]

fireworks!

[hot patrol]

basically like organisation 2 for offensive lines and etc

[hearty totem]

wowy

that sounds good

[hot patrol]

the blue bar next to the troops

yeah

you have to wait for a bit

but if you plan for longer you can get through lines easily

au

[bright sinew]

people always just stop palying after they beat ww2

but real fun is when you spend

years and years preparing for a war

and then you declare it

when ready

[hot patrol]

yo i can reach dc from portugal

peak

[hot patrol]

i mean i beat england christmas 1942

only now declaring on the soviets because romania declared

and i had nothing else to do

i mean i'm fighting for china but yk

i mean

they had years to prepair too

prepare

damn

[humble spruce]

hopefully i win

[hot patrol]

wtf 😭

[hot patrol]

i dunno man

cuckshaven is very defendable

[humble spruce]

who tf does poland have 6k fighters

im 1944 rn and i have 200

[humble spruce]

yea honest i might just gaurd it, no hopes of winning

[hot patrol]

we pushin

[hot patrol]

thats the ussr

[hot patrol]

especially a tank man

gawdayum

overkill ngl

they can hold with 2 infantry

like chill bro 😭

next thing you know hes gonna but like 3000 divs on 1 tile

[fresh jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-gif-523038869044733220

[bright sinew]

i kinda feel like

you have to give the ai a chance to properly prepare

because its just always going to be a stomp otherwise

like germany now with its dlc tree can just romp all over the soviets easily, before barbarossa, if you pick the right focuses

but its also easy for germany to screw itself with all the foci there are to choose

meanwhile the soviets just have to do their five year plan to be as big of a threat

i just literally

let them finish the plan now

lmao

sometimes i even spawn them in some civs and mills because - somehow - by 1943, they only have like, 120 civs and barely any mills

[hot patrol]

yeah

thats fair

i mean

i can't do shit because i'm on ironman

i have 1034 factories though

[tulip thorn]

CAS CAS CAS

CAS

CAS with really good op tanks

[hot patrol]

calm down

also my dumbahh thought you need 100% intel for a collab

[tulip thorn]

lmao

[bright sinew]

i hope they do something to the economy/production next because it kinda sucks tbqh - like uh, it takes so damn long to start new lines and it's so damn expensive for things.
but i understand they can't really be realistic with production rates, because uh...

well there's a very big elephant in the room if they do that - (second pic is aircraft produced)

the us would just be able to dunk everyone immediately lol

but uh

maybe the problem is more how lend lease works

because in hoi4 the lend lease act is like... nothing

meanwhile in reality:

we fed the soviet union after all their farmland was lost in ukraine

and we gave them the trucks that their entire army would run off of

[tulip thorn]

Realistic production would lag the game down so much

[bright sinew]

and their logistics would run off of

oh yeah

that too

but surely

[tulip thorn]

Most lag already comes from giant stock piles

Since the game needs to calculate every single gun and such

[bright sinew]

well

then again idk

many of the perceived misgivings i have with the production system i kinda have learned to get around by just... learning how to optimize my production lines better lol.
like i now build outdated equipment, and keep it in circulation(with the amount of outdated equipment depending on the country; eg i may build basic infantry equipment as the soviets, but i wont do that as the us; i'll just build eg infantry equipment 1, 2, and 3, then as the game goes on i will slowly drip-feed off of the production lines for infantry equipment 1 and move it to 2, 3, etc, making sure to always maintain a surplus on at least one of them

i never ever ever

run out of equipment now

also using the division designer to select who gets what

and making divisions that are meant for eg, holding the frontline vs divisions meant for making breakthroughs and encirclements(instead of just building the same meta template for every division lol), adding new equipment to them as it becomes available

[hearty totem]

Mexico shall once again control its rightful territories!

We shall crush these naive "humanists" and their supposed positive interpretation of capitalism!

Our grand supreme "el jefe" shall be the vanguard of our fight!

[thick kettle]

what am i even doing i', bpred

i'm about to fall asleep on my chair 💔

[bright sinew]

LOL

[bright sinew]

did you form eu germany

damn that sounds like a fun run actually i should do that

[thick kettle]

it's a mod that is

yes

[bright sinew]

what mod

[thick kettle]

and it rather very intresting

[boreal crest]

im playing as the ussr and making level 5 forts on the borders with germany on every tile and still getting ran over whats the solution for beating these guys

[thick kettle]

give me a moment

[tulip thorn]

Forts arent needed

And waste of ic

At most make level 2 forts

[thick kettle]

@bright sinew https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2944361740

you can form as any ideology btw

^.^

welcome to hell i guess

[boreal crest]

so how do i stop the germans

theyre just so op

[hasty linden]

is this based?

the chaos mod spawned the incan empire in the soviets

[tulip thorn]

By having good divisions

And lots of them

[thick kettle]

show us your divisions

[tulip thorn]

Ussr is the best nation for mass mob 32 width spam

[thick kettle]

mass mob 💔

[tulip thorn]

Mass mob is the 2nd best doctrine in my opinion, for some its the best

Its really good

[dusky burrow]

ah yes let's nuke kharkiv

[dusky burrow]

RIP

Incas are doomed

[thick kettle]

Would this be good: (div isn't saved, just a test

[tulip thorn]

no

Line arty bad

And calv recon is largely useless

[dusky burrow]

No AA when you have line artillery?

But yeah line artillery is bad

line AA is useful in moderation

[tulip thorn]

Line arty bad: case 84214

[dusky burrow]

and yeah cav recon is not that useful

[toxic cypress]

i suggest you get rid of anti tank

ima be real gang

ai never uses real tank units

almost never need to put anti tank

[tulip thorn]

Late game they can

[toxic cypress]

real tank units

[thick kettle]

i'm dealing with the soviets

so uh

[toxic cypress]

its always sum bum template

that you can destroy

[tulip thorn]

Late game they can

[thick kettle]

i might need anti-tank later on

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️ never had the problem

[thick kettle]

• it's october 1940

[tulip thorn]

The real issue is they dont mass produce

[toxic cypress]

i do use anti tank cas often doe so

ehh

idk if it does much

never check

[thick kettle]

want to hear something awful

[toxic cypress]

i just assign 2k planes on my special forces

and boom

ez

[dusky burrow]

Late game they still don't use real tank units, but their tanks have 90+ armor

[toxic cypress]

no

[toxic cypress]

god bless the cas

[thick kettle]

economy of conquest maxxed out

[dusky burrow]

True

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/f145-gif-21530498

[dusky burrow]

By that time you have so many better weapons

[tulip thorn]

How did you do that in 40

[toxic cypress]

fr

[thick kettle]

Uhmmmmmmm

[toxic cypress]

also you gon have your own tanks by then

[thick kettle]

focus tree switch

since i'm using an extended europe mod

[toxic cypress]

so it evens out

[bronze mango]

Anti tank is completely pointless in sp

[toxic cypress]

facts

[thick kettle]

👀

[dusky burrow]

AI tanks are rather weak and not taht hard either

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/there's-nothing-we-can-do-gif-14390726165144583214

[dusky burrow]

Even if they have more armor they won't get very far

classic

[thick kettle]

eeh, so far look at the losses:

[coarse willow]

after the peace confrence do i get the option to cede the land to my reichkommisariats or do i need to give it to them in the peace confrence

[hot patrol]

Man idk

Victory Points effect war support

[bronze mango]

You need to do it in the treaty

[coarse willow]

this is bullshit

but thanks 😭

ig i gotta do it the hard way

[bronze mango]

Atleast in the treaty you can give your rks more accurate borders

[coarse willow]

true

but im not sure how to make them

is there a rk for siberia?

[dusky burrow]

true, but can't you just nuke moscow?

[dusky burrow]

are the reichskommissariats in the war?

[bronze mango]

No, I usually let the Union of soviet socialist republics live on post war

[dusky burrow]

You can give land to your allies through the list of nations on the right of your screen

It can be long, so you may have to scroll

[umbral agate]

how does one break through this

[hasty linden]

chaos mod surely is something

[bronze mango]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-is-that-full-metal-jacket-ronald-lee-ermey-hartman-gif-10321193652437803678

[random parrot]

maybe cas

[coarse willow]

thats fair

tryna wc tho

wowza

[bronze mango]

It's also what would happen historically

[jovial sigil]

spain sealion failure

[coarse willow]

thats true

[umbral agate]

my brther i have 20 planes left

cas wont do nothing

[bronze mango]

Paradox really couldn't even be bothered to just add a few more reichskommisariats

[umbral agate]

uk has around 12k planes

[fading elk]

So is there any way to attack communist France as monarchist Germany without dragging in the Comintern

[coarse willow]

they could be bothered enough to add 20 new "expand rk ---- to the ------ administration" desiciojns

[random parrot]

maybe make more planes 🤷‍♂️

[umbral agate]

dude

the uk

hsa 12k

[jovial sigil]

historical ai off russia civil war

only way

unless you somehow ally the ussr

[bronze mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356009383754207562/1391132833711390720/BURN_DOWN_STOCKHOLM.gif

[random parrot]

what about florest mountainers?

[coarse willow]

are we joking

[hasty linden]

never let the chaos mod cook again

[umbral agate]

i dont think you realise my situation

this is sheeps mod btw

the allies have alot of actual good divisions

and good air

[coarse willow]

bro why do the rks need all of their claims to be formed

why do i need japan and all of china for rk ost asian

thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard that doesnt even make sense historically

[fading elk]

Guess I’ll have to fight s two front war then

I’m gonna try form the hre

[random parrot]

i guess the soviets are still alive

[plain halo]

I think I downloaded wrong version

[bronze mango]

Cause paradox hates you

[umbral agate]

yes

duh

im fighting france

[coarse willow]

IS THIS NOT ENOUGH OF EAST ASIA

PARADOX

ima betray hungary romania and bulgaria cuz why not

[random parrot]

so, youre fighting a two front war with eq defificit without air to stop the bombing against a mod that was specifically created to destroy germany

[thick kettle]

Insanity

[umbral agate]

well its a 1 front war

i puppeted spain

and france couldnt deal with 3 fronts

i do click their tanks tho

i have very good tanks

[random parrot]

oh thats way more doable, if spain doesnt die to the naval imvasion

[umbral agate]

they didnt

[random parrot]

by now youve probably dealt with it

[craggy trail]

No more civil war this time.

[tawdry thistle]

Is it worth having 5 carriers 4 with navs and 1 with fighters?

[umbral agate]

i just tagged to france

they have 2x the tank divs i do

[rigid elk]

As yugoslavia should i puppet hungary early so i dont have to worry about the hungarian front?

They have about 9 divisions starting

[craggy trail]

It's pretty good. You don't want to have more than 5 carriers or you start getting more penalties for your air wings

Just be sure to have enough capital ships to screen them

[umbral agate]

my allies are so incompitent, i try to clear up france then they lose in the north

and usa joined the war

[bronze mango]

German Czechoslovakia?

[dim sundial]

Germany always declares war on ussr on historical

right?

[brittle cypress]

They should yeah

They’ll delay it sometimes if they’re still fighting in Europe though

[bronze mango]

Uh yes, unless they get stuck in a stalemate

[dim sundial]

1943, d day might be happening and still they haven't declared war

[bronze mango]

Is like Belgium or something still around?

[dim sundial]

I'm (austria) is still alive

im so tired of waiting

[brittle cypress]

Oh

That’s pretty late

Rip

[dim sundial]

nah

[brittle cypress]

Just lock in and kill them yourself

[bronze mango]

That is why, eventually the soviets will go to war with the german reich though

[dim sundial]

i dont have the manpower

or guns

[bronze mango]

Can you go up in conscription? Do you have any allies

[dim sundial]

its mostly gun issue

[bronze mango]

You could beg for lend lease from the various non aligned nations in the middle East

[tawdry thistle]

the 5th should go all fighters or what? sources are confusing

[dim sundial]

i have decent amount stockpiled

but thats gonna shred once i start attacking

[bronze mango]

You can just

Not attack

[craggy trail]

Yes.

[brittle cypress]

The first four should be all naval bombers. The fifth should be all naval bombers WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAST 20 planes, of which 10 should be fighters and 10 should be cas

[dim sundial]

well that's what I'm doing but its kinda boring tho

[rigid elk]

Queue up 20 divisons and ask for lend lease and cancel training them

You should get good amount of guns

[dim sundial]

paris has been freed

[brittle cypress]

Since you’ve been given multiple sources, I’ll explain why

[dim sundial]

i guess ill attaxk

[tawdry thistle]

ty

[hot patrol]

What's a good modern tank template

[brittle cypress]

paradox imposes a 20% for going over 4 carriers, this setup gives you 7 total air wings (the 5 naval bombers, the 1 fighter, the 1 cas).

7*80%=5.6, this rounds down to 5. This means that 5 wings of planes fly. This means that all your naval bombers fly

Therefore, you’ve gotten a 5th carrier of naval bombers (minus 20) for basically free

compared to just having 4

[noble garden]

I feel like France in a nonhistorical gameplay is indeed tuff

[tawdry thistle]

so you shouldnt overstack and overcrowd at the same time even if you go base strike or you can do both that way?

[brittle cypress]

I am not educated enough on when to put more planes than the carrier has room

As far as I know its usually never worth it except as like Japan in some cases but I can’t actually back that up with math

[tawdry thistle]

ty

[brittle cypress]

But the 5th carrier thing always works

And you can do it with more carriers too

For example, 21 carriers gets you like 9 working wings of naval bombers

following the same math

Here’s an excel that goes into the math. Will probably answer your question on overcrowding/overstacking too, credit to alexanderthegrape

[tawdry thistle]

the first 4 dont lose 20% each? doesnt that offset the ones you gain from that exploit?

[tawdry thistle]

ty

[brittle cypress]

That’s not how it works

Check out the second sheet of the excel

[coarse willow]

cmon switzerland 😭

[brittle cypress]

for example, here is the setup i just described

5 active naval bomber carriers

here's the 21 setup (i have extra wing count set to 2 for this example, this is not necessary, it can be 0 and you'll still get 9)

support carriers are shitty cheap converted hull carriers with only 30 planes on them because their only purpose is to inflate the wing count

[hybrid galleon]

Hypothetically how hard is Japan to play?

[coarse willow]

😭

[hybrid galleon]

How

[coarse willow]

tanks with very high hardness and alot of air

[hearty totem]

Kaiserredux is suprisingly stable

very fun mod

[noble garden]

Avarage Switzerland

[azure palm]

May I introduce, the Axis. Definitely historicly Accurate

[hearty totem]

The amount of research slots I have is insane

im also about to get new ones

[glad sun]

why did they just give it

[craggy trail]

Doubled the size of my army, decrypted UK's cipher, good spy coverage, and most importantly, 8 30width marine divisions ready to go

[hearty totem]

Mexico is now officially big

[craggy trail]

Second times the charm. Thanks! @eternal palm @heavy vigil

[eternal palm]

Very nice

[quiet vessel]

no trotsky

[fading elk]

Historical France ai btw

tries do hre Germany
does shade focus
join allies
france 55% communist
”facist France has started a civil war”
joins hungary and Italy

Truly a hist ai game

[dreamy moat]

Should I get HOI4 or CK3?

[remote quarry]

the important thing to understand is that overstack and overcrowd are two different, independent things

which is why there were two calculators

[neat ether]

When will PDX switch from ClauseWitz engine?

[hearty totem]

there is trotzky?

In Kaiserredux I mean

awwww, it crashed

50mb crash

[sudden thistle]

“Historical ai France” as you went imperial Germany in the ALLIES

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[fading elk]

The thing is France should go communist

Well “intended” go communist

Go facist instead

I ain’t complaining but it is kinda wierd

[sudden thistle]

The French ai is incapable of going communist

And if they do it is very rare

[ornate marlin]

anyone here with a 7800x3d can tell me how well the game runs past 1941

[tulip thorn]

gpu dont really matter hoi4

Its cpu based

[quiet vessel]

i didnt look at the picture i just didnt smell trotsky

[ornate marlin]

7800x3d is a cpu

[warped flint]

should I be able to defeat romania

[safe wing]

What does Trotsky smell like

[ripe slate]

Something like 5-12 minutes a year

1937 is only 2 minutes on my 13600k, but that number quickly increases every year the game runs

[warped flint]

bruh

Didn't even get a option for peace

if they say no i am just forced to go to war

[ornate marlin]

2 minutes??????

my 5600 runs okay on 5 speed until 1941 where 5 speed starts to get laggy

wondering how much of an improvement a 9600x vs 7800x3d would see

i mean i know it would be significant i was js wondering what it would look like visually, couldnt find any benchmark videos online

[uncut carbon]

not very well

i have one paired with a 4090 not that that is relevant but thought id mention it anyways.

the game is still slow past 41 due to whatever but no upgrading doesnt do a ton for hoi4

[ornate marlin]

wow... interesting

our definitions of fast and slow are subjective though so id be interested to see how fast it runs on your 7800x3d

[tranquil lion]

Will the Allies still win here?

I'm Uruguay, there's barely anything else I can do to help at this point.

The Allies are just refusing to push anywhere, I don't understand.

Like what's wrong with them? Why aren't they pushing here for a good D-Day?

They've been sitting there for months.

[uncut carbon]

i am unfortunatley not gonna test that out haha but best of luck with your experiment i dont wanna be in a game until 1941

[warped flint]

If the soviets die then probably not

[tranquil lion]

What if they keep holding?

[warped flint]

Then its possible

[tranquil lion]

Why did this happen on historical??

[warped flint]

I don't know lol

Is it possible for you to push to the German borderi n the alps?

that could make them prioritze that more which could help the soviets

[ornate marlin]

lol dw i wasnt asking that 😆, just trying to get a rough idea of how big an improvement it would make

[sturdy sonnet]

I now have a thousand hours!!

[hoary mortar]

Congrats!

I think

[jaunty gulch]

hey, is there a way i can allowdiplo in MP. me and my friend wanna play where we declare war on anyone we want

[sudden thistle]

Nope

But u can get the toolpack without the errors

Has a declare war feature

[jaunty gulch]

me and my friend have now loaded into a game with the mod, how do i see the mod to allow this?

it wont let me use it

[sudden thistle]

go to decisions

someone can claim the owenrship of it

although it will only be 1 person that can use it

[jaunty gulch]

okay i got it thanks

what do i press to allow decleration?

[regal heron]

i just knew they can give sudetenland without im asking

[bright arrow]

Thats them going fascist

They'll soon cripple themselves and ask to be puppeted

[regal heron]

lol

[jaunty gulch]

do you know how i can allow declerations of war on countries in this mod?

[regal heron]

never played mod before srry

[bright arrow]

What mod you on?

[regal heron]

damn i cant do anschluss

do i need to declare war to them?

[bright arrow]

Why you fail?

[jaunty gulch]

toolpack without the errors. me and my friend want to play with allowdiplo on multiplayer

[bright arrow]

Tho i think they have a resist Anschluss path

[jaunty gulch]

we are very new and i dont know how to get it to work. a mod was suggested to me but idk how to use it

[regal heron]

they're making faction

[bright arrow]

The toolpack itself allows you to declare war on countries, as well as do a lot of stuff

[jaunty gulch]

is there maybe different mod i can use. i have the panel open for the mod i just cant find the specific action to allow it

[bright arrow]

Oh yeah when they do that you cooked

[regal heron]

it bypassed by itself

[regal heron]

🥀

[jaunty gulch]

where/ i cannot find it?

[regal heron]

cuh

[bright arrow]

Austria gameplay is make a faction as fast as possible to prevent Anschluss

[regal heron]

non historical ai ahh

[jaunty gulch]

where can i find?

[bright arrow]

Politics

[bright arrow]

Go to stance i think

[jaunty gulch]

okay how do i declare war i see thebutton but its grey

[bright arrow]

Im trying to remember from memory but only the screenshots help

[bright arrow]

You need to click the black ball on the top of the country you wish to declare war

[jaunty gulch]

still same

[bright arrow]

Man am i gonna have to load up hoi to see if i can remember

[jaunty gulch]

do i have to select ussr and poland at same time?

no doesnt work either

[bright arrow]

Keep trying combinations while my hoi loads up

[jaunty gulch]

u can stream for me maybe and show?

[bright arrow]

When i enter the game ill be able to tell you how to use the toolpack

[bright arrow]

Ok, mark the country you want to declare war on with the green ball, then select a state in your country

It should allow you to declare war

[unkempt falcon]

Jesus playing as Mexico late 1937 im invading Cuba and they have 18 divisions lol. Basically just save over bc now I'll have a civil war. Man non-historical is rough but im so bored of everything being the same everytime

[jaunty gulch]

should i mark soviet union and then a state in poland so im declaring war on poland and not the other way around? or does it not matter?

[bright arrow]

Yeah you can do it the other way around too

It just changes who declares war on who

[regal heron]

lol

[jaunty gulch]

okay this is perfect thank you so much. we where about to ragequit and play stellaris lol

[bright arrow]

Lol, the toolpack has a lot of options

You can summon 100 tank divisions with it from thin air

But if you and your friend just want to use it to bypass wargoals it also works

Tho there are probably mods that specifically remove just that

[regal heron]

am i dead?

at least france didnt go with allies

[bright arrow]

Im pretty sure those guys have a focus where they ask to be your puppet eventually

Unless them being in a faction cancels it

[regal heron]

they have no allies

[regal heron]

operation alaric?

[bright arrow]

I mean, Czech + France isnt exactly a power team

You can kill them in less than a month and then do go around the maginot and kill france

Is Romania still guareeenteing them?

[regal heron]

lol

[regal heron]

yea

[regal heron]

they're dead

[regal heron]

the onnly problem is i still have low army

[bright arrow]

Pump those sexy Hans out

Make me an army worthy of Mordor

[regal heron]

bro turned into allies

[desert night]

Was there no dev blog today?

[regal heron]

yea im fked

[desert pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/whyareyoublue-walterwhite-breakingbad-blue-jesse-gif-12242572209403578115

[mystic sand]

Hes blue for an amazing reason!

[bright arrow]

You literally only needed to guard a sliver of the most impenetrable land in europe howwww

[regal heron]

im not expecting them to attack this early and most of my troop attacking italy 🥀

over kill italy

[cold marten]

anyone awake?

[regal heron]

anyone in this chat it is ig

[cold marten]

should I try taking all this as China?

[misty fossil]

yes

[cold marten]

welcome to Eastasia

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's very much doable

[cold marten]

main problem will be getting to capitulate Britain

[dusky burrow]

or actually just getting enough steel

[misty fossil]

kill the us then hop over the GIUK gap

[cold marten]

also, well need to capitulate the soviets as well, so well need to do a Great March to Moscow

[regal heron]

bru,never expect this

[median gull]

So question about historical play. I know it means the ai will follow the focus trees historically. Does it mean the same for military actions? For example if I’m playing Poland am i guaranteed to be invaded in Sept 39?

[regal heron]

might be

[misty fossil]

unless you cede danzig

[regal heron]

real

holy poor

what is navy?

[misty fossil]

what have you done

[regal heron]

just silly uk fleet

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-ssoggycat-the-looker-let's-take-a-look-gif-8586111290975382902

[warped flint]

Does Czechoslovakia accept this? Cause if they do I am pretty sure you can core bohemia and moravria to

[fickle thicket]

peak rt56

[regal heron]

why this italian keep gaining territory bru they have no division

[austere basin]

no way this is how the hood dies

[limpid field]

why are they just letters

[median gull]

So has anyone ever seen the AI invade the US?

[tepid crown]

Play defying the axis mod and you will

[fickle thicket]

meta austria:

[marsh ravine]

What do u mean

[limpid field]

icons

[marsh ravine]

NATO

In your settings

[limpid field]

ohh thx

[marsh ravine]

Np

[heavy vigil]

Yes

I have

[regal heron]

should i pick goebbels as inner circle lads

[brittle cypress]

lmao

one of the shittiest germany games i've ever played

soviets was h ost

ooh portugal was invading me probably should have done something about that

anyways soviets got immediately battleplanned im happy cause he was doing mountaineers just like me

this is what happens i guess when you join no disc games

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/soggy-cat-shark-ssoggycat-the-looker-let's-take-a-look-gif-8586111290975382902

[warped flint]

I think building collaboration governments in nations your gonna occupy gives more factories or something right?

[brittle cypress]

yeah

[misty fossil]

yeah

[warped flint]

Is it worth doing just for the factories

[brittle cypress]

it is extremely worth it

[warped flint]

Alright

[brittle cypress]

germany should do like

2 collabs on poland and france

possibly one on belgium and netherlands

it's where like half your economy comes from

[warped flint]

I am doing them on poland and france

rn

[idle onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-does-anyone-want-to-play-alone-hearts-of-iron4-gif-24027448

[devout trench]

hungarian puppet is so overpowered fr

[misty fossil]

mp is boring

you can only play for a couple hours depending on others' availability

[mint acorn]

Anybody know any good duo nations that arnt germany and Italy

[brittle cypress]

france and UK?

[idle onyx]

yeah one goes mexico and go fascist and expands into the carribean and latin america and maybe Venezuela, columbia, ecuador and someone goes argentina and goes fascist and conquers rest of south america and maybe split peru

[misty fossil]

germany and ussr

[idle onyx]

not france cuz france falls like so quickly

and easily

[brittle cypress]

but you're playing as france

just dont die

two players against germany ai?

[near schooner]

why th does communist mexico always declares war on us and britain

like buddy ur not winning against two major powers

[mint acorn]

Democratic?

[mint acorn]

Monachist?

[brittle cypress]

yeah

[mint acorn]

Ehh democracys kinda suck

[brittle cypress]

ok bro

uh

idk man

[idle onyx]

well mexico could become a major

[near schooner]

theyre even on a civil war

but still declare war

[misty fossil]

nazi germany has the option to forge an alliance with stalin ussr

unholy alliance

[idle onyx]

crazy loll

[warped flint]

How many tanks should I have before I invade poland

[opal nymph]

I usually have 3 ready

[warped flint]

I have 12 rn

I mean 10

[opal nymph]

Oh neat

36 widths?

[warped flint]

I am training 14 more

Yeah

[opal nymph]

Dang

[warped flint]

I just need to get field hospitals

Hm, getting 12 more seems unrealistic

ill just get as many as I can, ill see how it looks

[marsh ravine]

What else do you make?

Or do you civgreed to the max

Cos I'm just thinking what is there to produce that you actually want

[finite plume]

Why's this so cinematic 🥀

[craggy trail]

Finally... After several hours of micro

[marsh ravine]

what year 😭 😭

[wraith mauve]

What’s the best mod combo for graphics

Bro

SOMONE

???

Nvm

[craggy trail]

1948

[marsh ravine]

damm

[craggy trail]

I know I know. That was a dumb from me

So I have to fight the US

[heavy vigil]

sad

[spring relic]

are they any good light tank templates or just focus on light att like meds

i want to do a light tank italy game through

[unborn mango]

Hoi5 when?

[spring relic]

after next war

[unborn mango]

Russia speed it up

I need hoi5

[spring relic]

no vro the dlc are going to be a fortune 🥀

[heavy vigil]

uuuhhh

theyre usable if you really try

[honest bluff]

thoughts on releasing african nations at the start as UK bc i don't want to deal with them lmao

[hoary mortar]

[heavy vigil]

you cant\

[honest bluff]

yeah can't i just release them all as puppets? or at least some of them