hoi4-general

[hoary remnant]

I barely play 3-4 hours a week. I have always tried getting into game but I was always overwhelmed. Recently decided to watch an actual video to understand better. I just spend over 10 hours this Saturday and Sunday... I get bored but god damn is this game addictive

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-stalin-ussr-russia-edit-gif-16432123930007423420

[split bane]

I remember I was once warned for posting this gif in another server for "being political"
The other server was a Hoi server 😔 (I forget if it was a server for a mod or a multiplayer server tho)

[warped flint]

Oh thats cool, how Hungary can get turned into a german puppet like historically

[warped flint]

💔

[fair horizon]

very well, paradox may have my attention for 6 days then

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-camp-gulag-ussr-sfsr-gif-11375769938799485374

[warped flint]

What mod can I use to make the borders better

cause the stupid allies make it disgusting

[tepid crown]

Player led peace conferences

[warped flint]

To late for that

I mean now

[tepid crown]

None. Will have to use console commands

[warped flint]

ironman

I could have sworn there was a mod which could give states to countries

[candid hatch]

@upbeat latch

[upbeat latch]

leave me alone

[candid hatch]

how are you?

[devout trench]

That’s a lot of red in the south

[warped flint]

It turned to green fast

[devout trench]

Political paranoia is just

So annoying

[warped flint]

Your cooked

thats 8 planes GONE, FOREVER.

[silk fern]

State transfer tool

[warped flint]

Thank you

[wet plover]

Holy crap that’s an entire American army 😭

[heavy vigil]

noo the planes

[wet plover]

Very nice

[devout trench]

Cursed borders

[opal nymph]

I remember starting a coup in Texas and it basically had Confederate borders

[valid prairie]

I have a problem of needing a lot of tanks to break through the front line but also the amount of tanks needed destroy my supply and I can’t fit the tanks into the tile

What the flip do I do

[opal nymph]

What are your tank divisions

[valid prairie]

8 med tank battalions 8 motorised (to be replaced with mech) and normal support companies

I’m not at my computer rn but I had this problem earlier today

[opal nymph]

Okay, those are alright. 9/9 or 10/8 is more optimum, but they should work

Do you have dlc

Specifically no step back

[valid prairie]

All except for South America and Iraq one

[opal nymph]

Okay

Do you have air superiority

[valid prairie]

They seem scammy

No

[opal nymph]

Or are you relying purely on tanks

Well

I think we found our issue

[valid prairie]

I have aa tho

But I can’t compete in the air

[opal nymph]

AA simply reduces debuffs

[valid prairie]

I want to just basically destroy all their planes

And then use my own ones

[opal nymph]

Use fighters

[valid prairie]

I only use fighters and cas

[opal nymph]

AA only shoots down CAS

[valid prairie]

No strat

[opal nymph]

Not fighters

[valid prairie]

Wait really???

No way

[opal nymph]

Well they only take out whoever is bombing

But fighters are only really shot down by other fighters

[valid prairie]

Crazy

I will make my own fighters

But I don’t have much rubber

[opal nymph]

And by having green air, the enemy gets a buff and you get a debuff

You are Germany right?

[valid prairie]

No

[opal nymph]

Rubber shouldn't be an issue

[valid prairie]

I’m anarchist Spain

Fighting the allies

[opal nymph]

Oh...

[valid prairie]

Yeah crazy shit

[opal nymph]

Well, spam refineries

[valid prairie]

Well I’m actually on a hist rn

And they have like 20 divs per tile

[opal nymph]

Also personally I would have used mountaineers/marines rather than tanks

[valid prairie]

So it’s very hard to breakthrough

[opal nymph]

For spain

[valid prairie]

What would be a good mountaineer division?

[opal nymph]

This is where we pray for reinforce memes

32 width blocks

[valid prairie]

They reinforce meme me

Haha

[opal nymph]

But if you can afford tanks, might as well

[opal nymph]

Because you have red air

[valid prairie]

Yes

[opal nymph]

What doctrine are you using?

[valid prairie]

Sfp

The goat

[opal nymph]

Well

We found our issue

[valid prairie]

Yep I knew that’s what ur gonna say

That’s what everyone says

[opal nymph]

Superior works

[valid prairie]

But it’s always been good to me

[opal nymph]

It isnt the greatest

But GBP gives you excellent stats via planning bonus

Ans Mass Assault gives huge defensive bonuses

[valid prairie]

I don’t like sitting there and waiting

[opal nymph]

My dude

You got staff office plan

[valid prairie]

And I don’t like casualties in the millions either

[opal nymph]

Also the raw breakthrough stats are nice

MA R has its casualties

But GBP is really effective at keeping casualties low

MA actually gives a lot of HP

So less losses on the defense

[valid prairie]

Yes it does

But I like seeing soft attack being high

[opal nymph]

SFP has lots of problems with lack of breakthrough and HP

[valid prairie]

And also I’m not switching in 1947

That would be instant death lol

[opal nymph]

So we keep SFP

[valid prairie]

But next run I will do another doctrine

[opal nymph]

Well, the first 5 of GBP L is all you need

Or MA R

But it might be best to keep SFP

[valid prairie]

Yes

[opal nymph]

In singleplayer, anything works

Where is the fighting

[gusty oracle]

hello

[opal nymph]

Howdy

[valid prairie]

It is in very south of France almost in Spanish border mountains

Actually yknow what

[gusty oracle]

my poland game ended in misery

[valid prairie]

How about I give u the save

And u can see for urself?

[opal nymph]

Im on my phone

[valid prairie]

Same here but later

[opal nymph]

But you really need Bordeaux for the supply hub

Oh, probably won't play it as i will forget about it

Lol

[valid prairie]

I’ll dm it to u later if u want

[opal nymph]

Maybe, but I dont have much time

[valid prairie]

Alg dude

Also u talked about mountaineers earilier

Do u recommend any templates for it

[opal nymph]

32 width mountaineer blocks with their doctrine

[valid prairie]

Or a yt video that gives good temps

What supports

[opal nymph]

I just know that they use the thing that lowers their width

Rangers, field hospitals, support aa, medium flame tanks, and I think armored engineers

Assault engineers

Whatever the one you get immediately

[valid prairie]

Ok I’ll see if I can do that

But I might not have rangers unlocked or smth

[opal nymph]

Rangers unlocked immediately by unlocking the mountaineer doctrine

[valid prairie]

What do they do

[opal nymph]

Recon but terrain bonuses and such

[valid prairie]

Are they incompatible with armoured recon?

Because I like the breakthrough armoured recon gives

[opal nymph]

No, but the terrain bonuses and everything else it gives is very worth it

Assault engineers are quite good as well

[valid prairie]

Yes we all love assault engis

[warped flint]

Storming down france now

[misty fossil]

you're are*

[warped flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1062013045674622996/1068740207303720960/togif-2.gif

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1433386327042293831/attachment.gif

[warped flint]

im so used to france dieing instantly when invading

[marsh ravine]

tbh for MA u want the manpower thats the rly good one

which is 7th iirc

cos its also -0.4 width

25% more stat

[warped flint]

Uh

[wraith mauve]

In Russian focus tree which pan Slavic one do I do?

[wraith mauve]

…

[wraith mauve]

Dude

4k a day

That has to be some sort of record

[wraith mauve]

Also do u know?

[warped flint]

Nah

sorry

[wraith mauve]

It’s all good

[toxic cypress]

dawg

smt aint right wit ur template

if you lost 140k guns

[wraith mauve]

Would yall say 20 and 18 width are both good?

[toxic cypress]

i always go 24+

20 if its just port garrison doe

[warped flint]

Its perfec

[wraith mauve]

Can u tell me a good one then

[warped flint]

its just im battle planning with 12 M men

[fickle thicket]

36 width

[toxic cypress]

it looks like your replacing entire divisions

[toxic cypress]

man

[warped flint]

These naval invasions are pissing me off

[toxic cypress]

im lazy to open my game

@sudden thistle show him a good template

[toxic cypress]

brother

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[warped flint]

Yes theres a shit ton of divisions in there

[toxic cypress]

ggs

[warped flint]

I am trying to focus on like 5 fronts at once

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-burt-lancaster-run-silent-run-deep-saluting-hero-gif-26186351

[warped flint]

The more small nations are all on scraping the barrel atleast

[toxic cypress]

i never push multiple fronts

its expensive

and you risk emptying reserves

i just push one big front and one small front

neever more than that

its best to manually push with special forces on smaller fronts

[warped flint]

im taking a break

[toxic cypress]

get the encirclement

[warped flint]

I want to hit something very hard right now

[wraith mauve]

When am I getting that template 🫩✌️

[toxic cypress]

🤷‍♂️

[warped flint]

I can't emphasize how many 20 division encirclements I have done at this point

[warped flint]

They just send more

and more

and more

[toxic cypress]

bro in italy

you can get so much

[warped flint]

I HAVE

THEY LANDED LIKE 3 TIMES

[toxic cypress]

ive gotten like 200 in the alps before

shits beautiful

[wraith mauve]

Cool ig

[warped flint]

I HAVE GOTTEN LIKE 20 LIKE THIS ATP

[toxic cypress]

yeah this spot

its beautiful

you can get alot

i like to wait

for em to put alot of units there

than take

[slim sigil]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE work bro

the soviets been ramming themselves against me for half a year now

[toxic cypress]

most fronts reallyy

[slim sigil]

and they dont run out

[toxic cypress]

you can get beauty

[warped flint]

I am actually tweaking atp

Surely the 67th d-day will go well!

[honest bluff]

i literally did the worst possible run

USA - Monroe Doctrine, American Faction rather than allies

[toxic cypress]

dawg

[honest bluff]

Democratic

[toxic cypress]

no garisons?

as the soviets

[warped flint]

I am just

to lazy atp

[honest bluff]

And neutrality act

[toxic cypress]

its not much work

just train 200 cheap units

put em on west coast

[warped flint]

Remember

[toxic cypress]

and italy

[warped flint]

guns

no have

[toxic cypress]

skill issue

couldnt be me

[wraith mauve]

Im getting no sleep tonight (hoi4 is to peak to play tomorrow)🫩✌️

[toxic cypress]

💀

[slim sigil]

every time the soviets attack my infantry equipment evapourates

[toxic cypress]

ggs

[slim sigil]

and whenever they muster tanks together my tanks evapourate

[toxic cypress]

no tanks or planes

[slim sigil]

cause i have no armour or hard attack

[toxic cypress]

no wonder your losing

entire divisions

everyday

[warped flint]

I am winning?

tf you mean

[toxic cypress]

0 armor on push

[warped flint]

its just painfull

[toxic cypress]

you are a player gang

the ai is stupid

[fickle thicket]

show template

[toxic cypress]

you can win with dog shit units

[warped flint]

I am using good units

mass mob

[toxic cypress]

💀 massmob good units

[slim sigil]

tank nice and dirty

[toxic cypress]

ok diddyblud

ok

[slim sigil]

evapourates infantry

but gets evapourated by tanks

[wraith mauve]

Bro I hate 75 day focuses

[toxic cypress]

💀 💀 💀

TS IS NOT A GOOD UNIT

WTH ARE YOU DOING

WHAT THE

[warped flint]

Ragebait

[slim sigil]

infantry

[fickle thicket]

uh i meant the unit itself what the cw

[slim sigil]

infantry slop division

[toxic cypress]

😭 dawg

[slim sigil]

24 combat width

[toxic cypress]

infantry spam

[slim sigil]

8 tank 4 mech

[toxic cypress]

isnt op

its a waste

[slim sigil]

i just switched to mech though

[warped flint]

Well it seems to be

[slim sigil]

so they are still mot for now

[wraith mauve]

So this is meta?

[fickle thicket]

gaw dayum go to at least 32

[warped flint]

I battleplanned the allies and axis

[slim sigil]

no...

[toxic cypress]

😭 your using the games 3rd strongest nation

[slim sigil]

it works for me

[warped flint]

So?

I can do it with other nations do

its good

[toxic cypress]

and the game ai is kinda mutted

[wraith mauve]

Should I use?

[slim sigil]

i think 24 width fits pretty well into most terrain right

[fickle thicket]

thats why ur shitters die instantly

[toxic cypress]

😭 ok fine fine your infantryy spam unit is good keep using it

but stop complaining about no guns

its your own fault

[warped flint]

Im not

[slim sigil]

no its just cause the tanks suck ass

in terms of armour and hard attack

[warped flint]

I am just telling you I can't do what your sayin

[slim sigil]

infantry bounces against my tanks like

they basically dont exist

[toxic cypress]

😭

please promise me

[slim sigil]

but when i find another tank i gotta pray i can encircle them

[toxic cypress]

you only will use this in sp

if you use this in mp

your gonna get bullied

[warped flint]

I don't use mp

I mean play

[toxic cypress]

this is for you own good

ok

just done use this in mp

remember that

a guy with space marines and flamethrowers

[warped flint]

This is a sp only template

[toxic cypress]

will take all your manpower

delete it

[wraith mauve]

So I add line arty

[toxic cypress]

and you battle plan for base pushing

[warped flint]

Don't use line arty

[wraith mauve]

To make 24 width?

Bro

[toxic cypress]

never battle plan fronts you can manage

[wraith mauve]

I need a template

[toxic cypress]

can you show me your industry rq

[warped flint]

Line artillery isn't very good

[toxic cypress]

i feel

you have 600 factories

you arnt making navy

[toxic cypress]

so either you have shit ton o civis

ok u have shit ton o civs

[warped flint]

Bear in mind some territorys I hvae are being occupied

[toxic cypress]

civ greed is good for soviets doe so

i guess thats ok

but

[wraith mauve]

SOMONE TELL ME A TEMPLATE

[toxic cypress]

you prolly shldnt be at 50%ish

[slim sigil]

hell nah winter in 3 months

i got 3 months to play the game

[warped flint]

Ngl i could continue this but this is unenjoyable atp

[toxic cypress]

aye man

you know

[wraith mauve]

Im losing my shit

[toxic cypress]

if you use good units

[warped flint]

The constant naval invasions are making me want to harm myself

[warped flint]

Hm

[toxic cypress]

the game become so fun

[slim sigil]

soviets have less than 200 divisions holy

[warped flint]

almost like I am using good stuff

[slim sigil]

double buffed

[warped flint]

😂🤯

[toxic cypress]

thats cause all your guns are tied into expensive basic units

and you cant put any on garrison

[toxic cypress]

you arnt you cant even afford to use it

but you still do it

[warped flint]

No its because I am lazy and just don't feel like not battleplanning

[toxic cypress]

your units arnt at full equipment

you cant make garrison

[warped flint]

Don't blame it on the template

blame it on me

[toxic cypress]

😭 you know

you can battleplan

with good units

and afk

[warped flint]

I am

I just don't have the resources

[toxic cypress]

bro

[warped flint]

my industry is capped

[toxic cypress]

YOU CANT AFFORD IT

YOUR RESOURCES AND INDUSTRY CANT AFFORD IT

THAT MEANS IT ISNT GOOD

[wraith mauve]

Should I just 3rd Rome

[warped flint]

INDUSTRY CAN

[toxic cypress]

YOUR OPERATING OUT OF CAPABILITY

[wraith mauve]

Instead of panslavic

[toxic cypress]

-140k guns

[warped flint]

I need to stop engaging with this ragebait

[slim sigil]

my -20k infantry deficit is fixed

[toxic cypress]

yeah sure buddy

[slim sigil]

germany is saved

[toxic cypress]

your the ragebaiter

no way bruh

[warped flint]

No I had a message that couldt be sent before and it matched with that

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-a-father-xxx-xxxtentacion-brainrot-sigma-gif-14203530448035513066

[toxic cypress]

well well well

[wraith mauve]

3rd Rome or panslavic

[toxic cypress]

pan slavic

3rd rome sucks other than for rp

pan slavic forever

[wraith mauve]

Ok

Which one left or right?

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/zapadoslavia-flag-slavic-europe-eastern-gif-22110205

[toxic cypress]

you choose

[wraith mauve]

Idk

[toxic cypress]

i usually go left

but

🤷‍♂️

you can do your own thing

[wraith mauve]

Me either

Im do wheel spin best out of 3

[toxic cypress]

hol up

why is ur pfp just russia

https://tenor.com/view/serzhmorzh-bear-russia-snow-russian-flag-gif-27595198

[wraith mauve]

It’s the right option

[wraith mauve]

Im bored bro

[toxic cypress]

hi bored bro im anakin landflyer

[wraith mauve]

Can germany not garuntee Finland please

[toxic cypress]

germany sucks early game

its best to fight em early

unless its 1940

than i dont suggest

unless you got good units

and industry

[short shoal]

Tuff

[wraith mauve]

Do garuntees go away?

[winged field]

Sometimes yes.

But it's usually annoying to go over. So if you want to inaved for example Netherlands. You justify on demmark Luxemburg Ireland and etc so UK and France spends their PP

Or you can change the goverment invite them to facrion and it usually goes away then you kick them out

[honest bluff]

99 PROGRESS THEN

IM WALKING INTO THE PROVINCE

im actually being abused by this playthrough

[wraith mauve]

Can u give me a good division template

BRO COMMUNIST CHINA IS PULLING GUNS OUT THER ASS

[final rampart]

my first successful BIG encirclement. Thats gonna sting lol

[final rampart]

ngl democratic china is lookin kinda scary for me

[wraith mauve]

Real tho

[final rampart]

those troop numbers are fn nuts

[honest bluff]

i couped my China then it joined axis

as democrats

i just keep fantasizing about nuking everything omg

it will feel so good

this is literally the worst runthrough oat

[final rampart]

the world declared war on my democratic china, they took power right after we finished off japan and everyone said hell nah

[wraith mauve]

Mao zedong is like buying guns out the black market cus we have been besieging the 2 tiles T here at for months now

[honest bluff]

navally invaded germany 99 progress to capture a naval base then reinforced then fell into read

another 70 days of this bullshit no manpower

[final rampart]

have you tried just bombing tf out of them

[honest bluff]

yeah im going to turn on console commands and send them directly to hell i dont care

[wraith mauve]

Im making medium thingy now

[honest bluff]

game didn't let me build a naval base for some ungodly reason

[wraith mauve]

If that don’t work Im making nukes just to nuke them

[slim sigil]

come on bro

[honest bluff]

another mystery to comb through the wiki for 8 hours to solve

[slim sigil]

every time winter comes the soviets get to restore themselves to like full hp

its like a boss battle with infinite stages

[slim sigil]

soviets have gone from 100 divisions to 150 in december alone

[final rampart]

im finally claiming land after spending like a year just holding a single province while blowing them tf up

[slim sigil]

WHEN does winter end

[final rampart]

god speed brother

[honest bluff]

does anybody know how to insta-build a navy base

[slim sigil]

command is ic

make sure the game is paused

type the command to enable

then build whatever

then type it again to disable

[final rampart]

typing ic in the command turns on instabuild?

[slim sigil]

yeah

after utterly annihilating the soviet tank corps winter arrived immediately

[final rampart]

the more you know lol

[slim sigil]

and now the soviet tank corps is back

[slim sigil]

it affects AI as well

[honest bluff]

THANK YOUUUUUUU

[slim sigil]

so you need to make sure

you only use it when paused

otherwise the ai is just gonna get stacked immediately

[final rampart]

NAH FOR REAL THOUGH xD

im dead hahahaha

[final rampart]

oh dang lmfao duly noted haha

[slim sigil]

also it affects dockyards for some reason?

it insta builds ships

[final rampart]

makes me want to play the smallest country in the world with an ungodly fleet of ships to defend my single atol lol

[slim sigil]

nah the ships only instabuild when its unpaused

like every day that passes it insta deploys every currently building ship

so you would have an enormous fleet

but so would everybody else

[final rampart]

well dang lmao scratch that idea

[slim sigil]

russian winter is ragebaiting me

im so tempted to just hit

the full frontline attack

[charred spoke]

Can't you disable the ai or am I misremembering

[final rampart]

im fighting russians rn, what do you mean by that

[slim sigil]

yeah the command is just ai

i think

[final rampart]

do they get like 10% frost damage ?

[slim sigil]

to toggle it

[slim sigil]

they are buffed so they get 15% attack and defense on core territory

plus i can barely afford the equipment to waste on a frontline assault

[final rampart]

buffed during winter?

[slim sigil]

no just permanently buffed

snow gives you -60% attack

in general

[final rampart]

ah okay like the core territory defense stuff i get ya

[slim sigil]

and the negative buffs are multiplicative

[final rampart]

ohhh so theyre mitigating while youre penalized

[slim sigil]

so it completely annihialtes

my attack

[final rampart]

easy fix tho

[slim sigil]

1944 jus began

i dont have nun

[final rampart]

ill take my button back then lol

[slim sigil]

dday has been defeated

i finally have my revenge

[final rampart]

i played this one weird. i dont think i was supposed to let the russians get this strong. they own all the way to spain now bc i never intervened in ww2

[slim sigil]

after losing 700k men in britan

[final rampart]

eeeesh

[slim sigil]

yeah i had like 90 divisions left by the time barbarossa came around

they managed to reach warsaw before i started whooping them

[final rampart]

skin of your teeth shit lol

[slim sigil]

yeah deadass

i encircled like 50 divisions with a margin of 2 hours i think

in southern poland

thankfully theyve only been able to train like 60 to 80 divisions during the winter

[winged field]

Mass assault R. Your offensive division 36w pure infantry with support companies. After you get the width reduction from your doctrine go for 35.2 width

Just keep in mind these are big division so it will take some time to reinforce it

I usually do combo of this template with normal 18w template

Like 3:1 ratio

[wraith mauve]

Ty

Is this tuff

[wraith mauve]

I build a lot of everything

Is sp artillery good?

[grizzled yarrow]

Yall whats a good paratrooper template to maul the uk

[wraith mauve]

1

Then spam it like 100 times land on all victory points

And boom

Or just do 9/9 and land on coast the prepare a army

[final rampart]

that pic i posted was my first REAL encirclement lol not just catching a few divisions. its a great feeling knowing you just removed that many problems from the board

[grizzled yarrow]

Hmmm

[fading elk]

Can u annex Austria as Germany going down guns monarchist path without gotterdamnurng

[slim nexus]

Do you think i can pull this off and liberate the world

[plucky girder]

i love the custom puppet names

[slim nexus]

Its a cool mod wish it came with flags too

[dapper orchid]

Its amazing how if your headphones disconnect even for a second, the sound is gone forever and you have to restart your game to get your sound back

[fair horizon]

venezuelan fleet?

[fair horizon]

chat should i play britian again while playing classical music from the 1800s?

[pine raven]

is 10 inf on mass assault enough for a starting div as a minor

with support comps

[fair horizon]

BIGGER

[wet coyote]

the fire rises on your sound card mate

[finite plume]

🥀

Sul you idiot 🥀

[misty fossil]

ew modded hoi4

get it out of here /s

[finite plume]

🥀 Ragebait

Anyways bro was playing too much so now I gotta bring in the AC-130's juiced-up cousin

[misty fossil]

what mod?

also be very afraid..

[finite plume]

That KD is atrocious 🥀

1 Panamanian Soldier for every 146 Sul ones 💀

[misty fossil]

sul

[kindred gulch]

Yes I think (could be wrong) if you’re fighting together and (maybe?) in the same faction you get an event that offers a union with them

I got the event once before I got gotterdamnurng

[finite plume]

Bro got exiled to the Galapagos 🥀

[heavy vigil]

What kind of bloat mod is this

75% commander skill 73% country

I see what you are

Only 42% from vet

[misty fossil]

you gotta let me enjoy bloat...

[heavy vigil]

I just wanna know

[viscid stirrup]

Vroseph is about to sureender in tsarytsin

[sudden thistle]

Heavy tank deniers when they see this

[noble garden]

this tuff?

[broken plover]

Is mass assault good as Soviet union for pvp?

[heavy vigil]

Why would it not be?

[viscid stirrup]

Bro u lost to ethiopia as italy

[noble garden]

I won

They're all my puppets

They do focuses and give me factories

[viscid stirrup]

Any doctrine is better than no doctrine

[broken plover]

Idk maybe throwing meat is not good vs tanks?

[sudden thistle]

No it is

[viscid stirrup]

Keep throwing mest

[sudden thistle]

U have lots of meat to spare anyways

[viscid stirrup]

Germany only made 2 billion bullets in ww2

[sudden thistle]

220 mil core pop 🔥

[viscid stirrup]

U just need 2 billion meat

[misty fossil]

a lot actually

[viscid stirrup]

More than that actualy

[misty fossil]

im running like 50 mods rn

[viscid stirrup]

Bros pc is cooked

[noble garden]

Me coping bittersteals old Italy tactic

[sudden thistle]

Close enough tbh

[viscid stirrup]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[viscid stirrup]

🍖🤣

[misty fossil]

i killed the combined anglo american fleet...

[viscid stirrup]

😂 🤮

[viscid stirrup]

Congrstulations

U know navy

Or at least the navy of these 50 mods...

[broken plover]

How should I design units?

[viscid stirrup]

8 inf support engineer support arty support anti air support logistics

@viscid stirrup

@viscid stirrup

Tuff

[broken plover]

Just 8 inf and supports?

[viscid stirrup]

U can use mountaneers to push

Put 2 arty in each mountaneer dihvision

[broken plover]

What should I do against tanks?

Do I have to make flame thrower tanks with medium tanks?

[heavy vigil]

higher hp you take less losses

you also have reduced combat width

[eternal palm]

AI tanks usually suck so having support aa is all u need

[ripe slate]

In vanilla, mediums are the most optimal apparently

I assume lights arent as cheap as they are in Rt56

[heavy vigil]

hes asking for a quote 'pvp' game

[heavy vigil]

for stats nah

[noble garden]

Should I go full try hard as Italy since I don't have to worry about Africa?

[broken plover]

Im in pvp vs britania and germany its free we 3 fight vs eachador

[heavy vigil]

hes ussr

[heavy vigil]

asking if massmob is good for 'pvp' since

[noble garden]

I luv that Yugoslavia always accepts my demands

[broken plover]

Yes Im ussr

[broken plover]

Can I just defend or win with just throwing 300 - 400 units on frontline?

[eternal palm]

Depends. What's the template and what's the air looking like? Are you playing any mods?

[broken plover]

No vannila Im just avg noob ussr player its 1936 we just started

[eternal palm]

Go mass assault right side, try to make some sort of air force and make these templates and designs

[green moss]

lmfao

[broken plover]

What is that tank first on top supports? and when I want to make flamethrower tanks it has a lot of debuffs when I want to change tank type

[eternal palm]

Assault engi, you get it when getting military engineering vehicle. And about the flame tank well yea thats what the flame tank role does. It gives terrain stats instead of base stats

Here's a design

[broken plover]

this?

[eternal palm]

Yes

[eternal palm]

Damn

[heavy vigil]

No

Just the project

Not the research

[eternal palm]

Research is good though. He's gonna be on the defensive

[hot patrol]

hoi4 man

[heavy vigil]

Based on how hes talking i dont think hes even gonna have enough massmob out

Even if it was just guns

[eternal palm]

Ay I'm just saying what I think he should do

[heavy vigil]

Much less with gun 3

[eternal palm]

If he can execute it or not is something else entirely

[green moss]

i love these events

[eternal palm]

Why do I always read your name as "let me kms"

Highly unfortunate

[hot patrol]

ehlmix

lol

[eternal palm]

Right

[hot patrol]

what do you think

[eternal palm]

Stats are very veeeeery slightly off. I assume ur not on gun3?

Otherwise perfect

[hot patrol]

gun3??

whats that

[eternal palm]

....the infantry tech.....

[hot patrol]

oh

[eternal palm]

It's called gun0 through gun3.

[hot patrol]

i got the sturmgeweher

[eternal palm]

That's gun3 OK so something else is off. Doesn't matter too much

[hot patrol]

1944

yeah

they're really expensive though..

the divisions

[eternal palm]

That's what tanks are. Expensive

Hence I don't make them basically ever

[hot patrol]

can't wait

[hot patrol]

i guess i can still use them though

[eternal palm]

You already made the template so might aswell

[hot patrol]

i'm not sure where to use their speed

maybe encircle the baltic

?

[eternal palm]

Hold shift when drawing fm frontlines

[eternal palm]

Just battleplan. Unless u wanna larp the battle of kiev

[hot patrol]

dash for lake peipus?

[eternal palm]

I guess so

[hot patrol]

well yeah but where

[eternal palm]

Center

[hot patrol]

but i'll try peipus offensive or smth

[eternal palm]

Ideally towards Moscow

Around the marshes

[hot patrol]

i guess

[hot patrol]

what for

[eternal palm]

Spreads your units out equally instead of dividing the armies into sections

[north spoke]

How did you keep bylatstok and Lemberg in the Molotov ribbentropt pact

[hot patrol]

state transfer tool

[north spoke]

Oh

[hot patrol]

just cleaning borders

not cheating

no fun like that

[north spoke]

Lowk thats fine

Molotov ribbentropt borders are lowk ass

[hot patrol]

peak though

[hot patrol]

yeah

this looks better too

[north spoke]

Lemberg is a bit of a stretch but it's fine

[hot patrol]

meh

in lviv (the city) poles were a majority, or at the time

[north spoke]

True

[hot patrol]

just not the surrounding areas

so i guess thats why generalgouvernment would take it

[north spoke]

Valid

Do you use reichskommisariat+ or no?

[sly elm]

1937 historical btw

[north spoke]

Real historical event

[sly elm]

ah yes, the german invasion of the USA, June 1937.

[north spoke]

History class didn't teach you real history like this

Hoi4 is the most reliable source

[sly elm]

yes.

Real history, egypt had 37 divisions

[hot patrol]

unhistorical enviornment cannot be historical for the ai

[sly elm]

im playing as egypt

yes historical is on

germany is just invading the USA in 1937

EXCUSE ME

[fading elk]

O good to know

Guess I’ll only need to invite them to a faction them

I wanna turn form the HRE so I’ll need them

[misty fossil]

i mean vanilla navy is boring

[hot patrol]

@eternal palm this alright?

[eternal palm]

Try the Naval Fix mod by Alex the Grape

[eternal palm]

Why the radio? And why Messerschmitt?

[misty fossil]

ive been playing with anoyher naval mod and im quite content with it

[eternal palm]

Also no self sealing?

[misty fossil]

how does your mod look like

[misty fossil]

Mo

no

pick focke wulf

[eternal palm]

I actually have not played it, it's a mod that has been thrown around by rb players so I guess it's good

[hot patrol]

ok focke wulf done

what else

[eternal palm]

.

[misty fossil]

get self sealing and two armour plates

[hot patrol]

more armour plates?

[misty fossil]

you dont need 1400 range

[hot patrol]

ok

[misty fossil]

How much range do you have with 3 armour plates

and 0 fuel tanks

hover over the mio icon for me

[eternal palm]

Radio does fk all for fighters

[hot patrol]

562

[misty fossil]

damn

[misty fossil]

.

[eternal palm]

Too little. Oh you probably haven't grinded Fw much

Yea thats bad

[misty fossil]

yeah that has to be the case

[hot patrol]

i need to reach gorky to assist my tactical bombers

[eternal palm]

Choose fw from the start next time

[hot patrol]

also i did messerschmitt

[misty fossil]

get all the range traits

[eternal palm]

Do you really?

[misty fossil]

boom you can now get 3 armour playes

[hot patrol]

i get 937 with 3 armour plates and a fuel tank

[hot patrol]

i'd say so

[misty fossil]

yeah

[eternal palm]

Ye that's fine for now, just grind fw next time

[eternal palm]

What for

Just kill the Soviet

[eternal palm]

Fw literally has more base range

[misty fossil]

messerschmitt is mid..

[misty fossil]

i meant hover over your focke wulf mio icon

[hot patrol]

this?

[hot patrol]

oh its actually better

weight exceeds thrust

i can remove 1 armour plate

[eternal palm]

Air defense doss nothing for cas and pls use the cas MIO

[fair horizon]

range mio >

[eternal palm]

That's why u do 2 armor plates and 1 self sealing on e3

[hot patrol]

this looks good actually

[hot patrol]

eight exceeds thrust still

[eternal palm]

MIO made for cas is good for cas 🤯

[eternal palm]

Oh you're on f3 🤦‍♂️

Yea don't do that

F3 without e4 is useless

[hot patrol]

what?

i'm using engine fours

[green plume]

for USA medium or heavy tanks wuts better

[hot patrol]

unless you want me to use 2

[eternal palm]

No what

What's your design rn

[fair horizon]

whichever you decide to use

[eternal palm]

It's supposed to look like this

[green plume]

in multiplayer**

[hot patrol]

this is a cas

on a light airframe

[eternal palm]

Oh the cas nvm. Ye remove all extra modules and add 1 more heavy bomb lock

[misty fossil]

Ok get some more range on it

[fair horizon]

no range mio? smh

[eternal palm]

Neither, ur air factory, but usually heavy td

[eternal palm]

It literally is???

Are u blind

[green plume]

tank destroyers?

[eternal palm]

Yes.

[green plume]

when did that become meta ;-;

[fair horizon]

yes actually

[eternal palm]

No? It doesn't need more range more damage is better

[hot patrol]

so what about the cas

whats the design

[eternal palm]

Since nsb

[eternal palm]

What I just told u

[misty fossil]

oh i mean get range on the mio

[eternal palm]

4 heavy bomb locks and e4

[green plume]

lowk i thought medium tanks was the meta on america

[eternal palm]

That's it

[eternal palm]

Not on the cas?

[green plume]

but CAS and tank destroyers=kill?

[eternal palm]

It has enough as is

[eternal palm]

Yea

[green plume]

ill have to try it

[hot patrol]

thats it?

[eternal palm]

Yes

[misty fossil]

no i mean for the fighters

[eternal palm]

Moar damage over moar range

[green plume]

can you gimmie a good heavy TD template??

[eternal palm]

We're talking about the cas rn though

[hot patrol]

damn

[misty fossil]

alright

[misty fossil]

Point out to him that the single heavy tank is the armour meme as well

cant expect everyone to pick up on that

[fair horizon]

oh god the naval invasion bonus

its gone

[misty fossil]

Why does it only have 100 armour though?

[eternal palm]

It's not for that anyway?

[fair horizon]

why use amtracs then?

[eternal palm]

If u wanna dday remove 5 tds and replace with amtracs

[eternal palm]

River and sf stats

[misty fossil]

nah we love naval invading with 0 reliability TDs

[eternal palm]

Only?

Bro that's quite a lot

[misty fossil]

is it

[eternal palm]

One has nothing to do with the other?

[eternal palm]

Yes?

It's the template bro

[misty fossil]

Ok

[green plume]

design too?

[tepid crown]

Under the absolute worst conditions, you’d lose 12% of a 0 reliability per day

[fair horizon]

32 cost with 27% reliability 💀

miss me with that

[tepid crown]

Reliability doesn’t matter

[fair horizon]

it absolutely does

[tepid crown]

You’re misinformed

[fair horizon]

i most certainly am not

[eternal palm]

It literally does not

[fair horizon]

you will attrition during combat and you will lose those tanks

[eternal palm]

That's what u have a stockpile for

U don't put 150 mils on heavy tds for nothing

[fair horizon]

the tanks cost 32 ic

[eternal palm]

It's not like you're battleplanning

[fair horizon]

im not stockpiling 32 cost tanks

[eternal palm]

What does that even mean

Stop pulling shit outta your ass if u don't care

[eternal palm]

I can read thank you very much

Your argument doesn't make any sense

[fair horizon]

then you should understand what 32 cost tanks means

[eternal palm]

I do, im not sure if u know what it means

What about it being 32 IC

YES it's expensive that's what tds are

[eternal palm]

.

[fair horizon]

i dont put 150 factories on tanks period

[eternal palm]

If u go cheaper you run the risk of never pushing because you lack stats

[fair horizon]

if ive put that many on tanks ive won

[eternal palm]

That's a you problem then

[eternal palm]

You've clearly never played hist mp

If u don't know, don't talk

Don't act like u know everything

[fair horizon]

because mp is garbage

[eternal palm]

Maybe be a bit more curious

[fair horizon]

uh yeah that thing you're doing? its against the rules because its fun

[eternal palm]

So why do you even argue when you don't care

Just shut your mouth

[fair horizon]

how about you head on over to the multiplayer channel if you wanna talk about mp bud

[eternal palm]

You are talking to Me rn

[fair horizon]

since theres literally a channel designed specifically for that

[sly elm]

very historical

[eternal palm]

I was tryna help a dude learn

But no u had to come at me

[fair horizon]

Ah yes today i will make a broad statement and in no way preface that its for MP

[eternal palm]

Bro we literally talked about mp 😭

Maybe learn how to read first

Before saying stupid shit

[hot patrol]

uhm

hmmmm

[fair horizon]

bud i think you need to calm down

[eternal palm]

I dont have to Preface what I say just because you're too special to fking read

[green moss]

Moscow-Berlin Axis is more horrifying honestly

[eternal palm]

No I simply don't like you. And I want you to know that.

[green moss]

the strongest superpower of 1936 teaming up with the strongest superpower of 1939

[fair horizon]

block me then

lmao

[eternal palm]

Another day another block 🥱

[fair horizon]

sorry i didnt read your message from an hour ago talking to a different person about mp lmao

[hot patrol]

imma just

[misty fossil]

It doesnt lol

like just micro your tanks and ur good

avoid mountains and marshes

[fair horizon]

you still attrition in combat

even on plains you'll lose plenty of tanks at low reliablity

[misty fossil]

so generally avoid attritioning them

hopefully

[fair horizon]

so just never attack with them then

[hot patrol]

never in my hoi4 campaign have I EVER SEEN 1.1MILLION GUNS IN STOCKPILE

[fair horizon]

because you attrition in all combat

[misty fossil]

i keep my tanks at high reliability because i hate microing

[hot patrol]

WHILE TRAINING 216 DIVISIONS 😭

[fair horizon]

i keep mine at high reliability because im not gonna lose 300 tanks attacking a plains tile for being at 50%

[misty fossil]

you should

its funny

i also strap armoured maintenance comp on my tanks

[hot patrol]

lol

[eternal palm]

Pretty pointless? Maintenance does basically nothing. You don't capture the amount of IC you invest and with armored maintenance its even worse

[eternal palm]

Civ div 😭

[sly elm]

the british invasion of florida, 1939 (this is what the history books hide from u)

[fair horizon]

i was there for this

[devout trench]

least expensive kasierreich focus

[fair horizon]

andrew jackson turned them around at new orleans

[misty fossil]

yeah it doesnt do anything

and i agree

[eternal palm]

So why use it

Larp?

[misty fossil]

larp

[eternal palm]

Right

[misty fossil]

lol

idk

[eternal palm]

Alr straight to prison

No larp allowed

[misty fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227102596486135869/1333068056792141884/attachment-2-1-1.gif

[eternal palm]

You've been convicted of having fun

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225597737681031282/1384544737696026736/caption.gif

[tepid crown]

You won’t. Do you even know the math behind it because it doesn’t look like you do

[eternal palm]

He doesn't 💀

Bro is also supremely illiterate

[fair horizon]

i know i looked at the from combat stat and from 2 battles lost 500 tanks so yeah

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234722545698340908/1340450046717460520/attachment.gif

[eternal palm]

I'm literally talking to a different guy and he comes at me like "wah why ur tank expensive wah"

[tepid crown]

Brother, that’s from combat

[eternal palm]

Like bruh I'm not talking to you

[fair horizon]

hover over it bud

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[fair horizon]

it says ATTRITION FROM COMBAT

[misty fossil]

attrition from deez nuts

I love 0% reliability

just as reliable as my standards of work irl

[tepid crown]

“From combat”

[eternal palm]

Time span is 12 months :clueless:

[fair horizon]

dont forget the attrition part, btw changed to 90% and lost less than 100 in the next few months

[misty fossil]

my other game as japan

modded navy is fun

[eternal palm]

By boring he meant "no ic bloat" 😭

[misty fossil]

I LOVE BLOAT

[tepid crown]

You realize combat and attrition have their own section?

[misty fossil]

telling people bloat sucks is mid

learn to have fun

[eternal palm]

It's unbalanced and unfun

[misty fossil]

nuhuh