hoi4-general

[candid pecan]

wow thanks

[toxic sapphire]

one question

panzers or inf

[candid pecan]

inf cuz i have no dlc

[toxic sapphire]

tf?

[candid pecan]

mate

im new

[toxic sapphire]

u dont need dlc to make temps

[candid pecan]

yeah but apparentally theyre useless

just check the ask for help here channel

[toxic sapphire]

fuh naw

[candid pecan]

ok

[toxic sapphire]

wth

[candid pecan]

did i say im new

[toxic sapphire]

who told u that]

[candid pecan]

@heavy vigil

[toxic sapphire]

bro

[eternal palm]

Hold shift when drawing fm frontlines

[hot patrol]

tf is that

[toxic sapphire]

casey why u tell him temps are useless

[toxic sapphire]

an lighter

not anymore ig

[eternal palm]

No not temps, tanks wtf

Do u speak English

[candid pecan]

dude

this noleee guy

[eternal palm]

Tanks are useless, especially with no dlc

They get slightly more useful with a dlc, but not by much

[toxic sapphire]

@eternal aspen check ts out

[candid pecan]

this is all i see

[toxic sapphire]

so what

[hot patrol]

this alright?

[eternal palm]

He's got a point.

[candid pecan]

and then when i send it u say "easy to do btw"

lmao

[toxic sapphire]

so what

[candid pecan]

let me be happy for my accomplishments

[eternal palm]

A few things; max out engine and armor clicks, use howitzers and don't use wet ammo

[toxic sapphire]

being new to the discord doesn't mean I cant kill romania

[candid pecan]

3v1

poland romania and yugoslavia

[eternal palm]

Oh and don't use torsion bar

[candid pecan]

all surprise

[hot patrol]

i was just told to use medium cannons

[candid pecan]

i didnt even know they were in allies

[toxic sapphire]

its litteraly still 2 eastern fronts

[eternal palm]

By who. Im gonna strangle that guy

Mc is ass

[toxic sapphire]

not a western and eastern

[hot patrol]

what about my reliability though

[eternal palm]

Howitzers are simply better

[eternal palm]

Rel is a fake stat

[candid pecan]

so? i still didnt have any frontlines so they got a headstart

[hot patrol]

what do i replace wet storage with then

[toxic sapphire]

I personally use medium howitzers

[eternal palm]

Armor skirts or easy maintenance

[eternal palm]

Thats exactly what I said.

[toxic sapphire]

taking 3 cities is not a headstart

[hot patrol]

hmm

i think thats a 1940

[toxic sapphire]

you just said howitzers

[hot patrol]

this is a 1938

[toxic sapphire]

not medium specifically

[eternal palm]

It literally is.

[toxic sapphire]

yes but tiny

[eternal palm]

Oh you need to research armor 2

[eternal palm]

Also no?

Ger struggles with alu and oil

[hot patrol]

what for

[eternal palm]

Armor skirts

As I just said

[hot patrol]

oh

alright

[candid pecan]

iot was not 3 cities

lol

[eternal palm]

Ye idk what this guy is on about

[eternal palm]

Pay no mind to him

[candid pecan]

ur right

[toxic sapphire]

alright alright

I didnt see that pic

not that hard but since u have 100 hrs

[eternal palm]

💀

[toxic sapphire]

ig its good

[eternal palm]

Dude are u dense

[toxic sapphire]

get out bro

you milking this with that discord mod ahh pfp

[eternal palm]

Nah

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

What

[toxic sapphire]

your pfp is not tuff 💔

ive kept mine for memories ig

og 2023 chat

[hot patrol]

hmm

[candid pecan]

that does not excuse for anything

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-not-a-sigma-gif-1139489757646363457

[toxic sapphire]

am I arguing with you rn?

[toxic sapphire]

I have that sticker on snap since early 2025

[hot patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1107084275234377791/1287788845521174599/attachment.gif

[candid pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335285746839326795/1424397230500085803/attachment.gif

[toxic sapphire]

TS FRYING ME

[candid pecan]

"hahaha"

[toxic sapphire]

fuh I cant find the img

what server u find it from?

[candid pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/aint-tuff-bad-meme-benjammins-is-not-tuff-loser-gif-4433955606435510984

[toxic sapphire]

what div temp did u use btw

[young tangle]

when is the dlc coming out

[silk walrus]

Let's not post that

[toxic sapphire]

huh?what's wrong with it

its not meant to be racist

[silk walrus]

No politicians/controversial figures past WW2

[toxic sapphire]

I dont even know the figure Isnt it like an random guy?

I found that image in the rise of nations server

a long time ago

[eternal palm]

Right buddy 💀

For sure dude

[candid pecan]

"an random guy"

[toxic sapphire]

I genuinely don't even know who he is i just made my own one after seeing it

[rigid solar]

Who was the guy

[eternal palm]

Not knowing doesn't protect you either

[toxic sapphire]

looks like a normal Muslim to me?

[eternal palm]

I'm not gonna explain it to you

[candid pecan]

lmao

[eternal palm]

Just know this

[candid pecan]

top 10

[toxic sapphire]

I made this one

[candid pecan]

didnt he just delete that

[rigid solar]

That's just a random guy what

[toxic sapphire]

no

[candid pecan]

is that the one

[toxic sapphire]

some afghan

[fickle cove]

EUGHHHHHH NOT ROBLOX RISE OF NATIONS

[toxic sapphire]

idk its a random old guy with a long beard in Muslim outfit

[candid pecan]

yeah

nice one pal

[toxic sapphire]

our history doesn't teach about Afghanistan really other than the big wars

[silk walrus]

If you don't know the person it's better to not post that

[toxic sapphire]

it just looked like a random guy

but ok

[toxic sapphire]

can you please tell me who the guy is and what he did if not possible here then in dms?

if not its ok

im pretty sure I've sent the same image before without anyone saying anything

let me check

here

[fading elk]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-arrival-avengers-gif-10391688

Did someone say my name

[toxic sapphire]

here's some proof too btw

my router is tiny and slowa

and usb tethering slows it down a lot

[toxic sapphire]

no i meant @umbral carbon 's username

[hot patrol]

i'm kinda scared, have never actually done historical germany

[candid pecan]

gl

[hot patrol]

even though i'm sure i can do it

[celest hamlet]

Anyone know

[eternal palm]

Why no attack high command

[hot patrol]

got paratroopers n all for france

[hot patrol]

what

[eternal palm]

Why is your high command the org guy

[celest hamlet]

The fastest nation that can get the super heavy tank?

[eternal palm]

Not the attack guy

[hot patrol]

you're right, i'll do it

[eternal palm]

Germany

[hot patrol]

it was training

[celest hamlet]

Cuz I’m trying to get Land Cruiser inn a reasonable time

[eternal palm]

Even worse 💀

[celest hamlet]

When and what focuses should I take

[hot patrol]

just wanna get the 48 divs out for the war

8th febuary

1940

[toxic sapphire]

what divs u using for poland

inf?

[eternal palm]

You have the focus innovative Warfare right. Use that one on sh tank

[hot patrol]

infantry, just that lol

[eternal palm]

Just train earlier?

[hot patrol]

sure this can't be bad

[celest hamlet]

Ok thanks

[hot patrol]

i was

but ig

[toxic sapphire]

add 2 motorized

[eternal palm]

Very expensive. Normal recon doesn't really do a whole lot and fh is wasted on small inf

[fading elk]

Well I’ve done my job here

[eternal palm]

Maybe remove 1 inf too

And add support aa just in case

[hot patrol]

i can handle the size of it

but recon?

[hot patrol]

its also for defending btw

[toxic sapphire]

id reccomend sending a few tanks to take danzig

just circle it

[eternal palm]

And?

[toxic sapphire]

and then they give in

[hot patrol]

yeah ig

[eternal palm]

Recon doesn't help with that

Recon sucks

[hot patrol]

thats why its 9

wait no

[eternal palm]

And????

[hot patrol]

thats for attacking nvm

[eternal palm]

18w is ass for defending

[hot patrol]

yeah i'm wrong

i'm sorry

[eternal palm]

Also wrong.

[toxic sapphire]

give us your temp btw

[eternal palm]

18w is just ass

[hot patrol]

wtf have i been doing 😭

whats good for attacking

[toxic sapphire]

Just wanna see what u (possibly) cook up

[eternal palm]

Wasted on your kind.

[eternal palm]

35/36w

16w for line

[hot patrol]

so how many infantry

[eternal palm]

16w is 8

Cuz 1 inf has 2 width

[toxic sapphire]

I personally make a infantry line for defending and a 2nd one for attacking and assign them under a field Marshall

Just make sure to not lose kaliningrad and ur good

[hot patrol]

i know not to loose krolowiec

no polish keyboard

Królewiec

damn

[toxic sapphire]

doctrine?

[celest hamlet]

Wait

Can you have super heavy tank and Land Cruiser

In one dig

[eternal palm]

Yep

[celest hamlet]

Ok

[hot patrol]

i'm scared to say it just incase someone shits on me for it

[toxic sapphire]

its ok gng

[eternal palm]

Just say it

[hot patrol]

superior firepower just makes sense man

[eternal palm]

It definitely doesn't

[eternal palm]

If u know its wrong why take it

[celest hamlet]

So I’m making a division with a flame tank, armored recon, assault engineers, land Cruisers, and a super heavy tank

[hot patrol]

what did i say

[celest hamlet]

It’s overkill ik

[eternal palm]

I kinda feel like this is a you issue

[toxic sapphire]

gbp makes more sense

[hot patrol]

i don't see whats wrong with it, soft attack

[toxic sapphire]

poor people

an immortal firethrower

[celest hamlet]

:p

[eternal palm]

1. Gbp has more
2. The stats aren't that good
3. It barely gives org
4. It's only good for small Divs
5. Everything that sfp tries to do is done better by gbp

It's just ass

[celest hamlet]

Not to mention the planning

[hot patrol]

alright

i'll try changing now

[eternal palm]

That's what was referring to in point 1

[hot patrol]

bruh

42 out of 50 xp

[eternal palm]

Also didn't u send a disaster save in bittersteel like a year ago?

I'm pretty sure I told you the same then

[hot patrol]

.. a year ago

[eternal palm]

Exactly. Why are you making the same mistake a year later.

Did u forget

[hot patrol]

yeah?

but i understand it now

[eternal palm]

Oh well

[toxic sapphire]

uve only been here for 8 months tho

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-it-now-lethal-shooter-gif-13384594995304662997

[eternal palm]

Not the first time I had to tell people twice

[eternal palm]

Diff server

[toxic sapphire]

tuff

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-make-myself-very-clear-let-me-make-myself-gif-26560967

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929807268994744340/1028218317040783400/image0-6-2.gif

i have so many civs i don't even know what to do with them

might aswell just milgreed

[eternal palm]

When did u cut 💀

[hot patrol]

what

[eternal palm]

When did u start building mils

[hot patrol]

i have been building mils since the start

just not much

[eternal palm]

Good.

[hot patrol]

i mean

[eternal palm]

So have you been building civs?

[dusky burrow]

Depends on the nation

As Germany you can easily get those from conquest

[hot patrol]

a bit

and from anschluss and sudeten i gained some

[daring geyser]

does anyone else but me remember the old usa

pre-MTG usa

the pax americana focus was the most insufferable thing ever if you wanted to play south america at the time

[daring geyser]

you had no focus trees, dogwater eco, special forces werent that good at the time

and past a certain year you were basically forced to go to war with the usa

😭

[devout trench]

Yes because I played without MTG for most of my single player hoi4 games

[daring geyser]

no

that doesn't give them the old focus tree

i refer to the MTG patch, not the MTG dlc

[devout trench]

Ohhh

Yeah never played

[daring geyser]

so USA on 1.5-

[ebon badge]

what mod adds that super event?

[devout trench]

what mod is that brochacho

[ebon badge]

that’s what i’m saying

[eternal aspen]

With what

Im confused on what was going on

[ebon badge]

gotta come back to hoi4 after busting my ass off on warthunder

[toxic sapphire]

that guy got told tanks are useless

[ebon badge]

haven’t played in a while but i still bought all the stuff

[eternal aspen]

They really arent that good

[toxic sapphire]

I thought it was templates tho

because he sent it right after I said about templates

[eternal aspen]

GBP L and MW R/R are the only times tanks are good

[toxic sapphire]

he uses the support one

[ebon badge]

what’s all that mean? I don’t really know the shortened stuff well

[eternal aspen]

Left path of grand battle plan

And full right side of Mobile Warfare

[ebon badge]

is there any one best doctrine?

[eternal aspen]

Those are generally useful, since you can use lights and be good

[fair ocean]

anybody wana host?

[eternal aspen]

Apparently Mass Assault right side is good for infantry, idk what people use for tanks nowadays

[toxic sapphire]

then give me a template for infantry since its better than tanks

[sudden thistle]

Tanks are gbp left

[ebon badge]

i’m bad at designing templates and stuff so i just slam in infantry and artillery and pray

[inner ocean]

Iraqi rail

[grizzled zenith]

Spiderweb

[inner ocean]

supply is better than most first world nations

[grizzled zenith]

What mod is that btw?

[grizzled zenith]

Imagine building that in Siberia and East Asia

[inner ocean]

ive done it before, it takes hours

[grizzled zenith]

Russia couldn't do that for centuries and still can't do that lmao

[toxic sapphire]

doesnt gbp right buff armored while gbp left doesnt?

[hallow osprey]

god help me

[sudden thistle]

Bro

[woeful osprey]

dead chat

[inner ocean]

pretty bloody conflict

[coarse willow]

as germany is there an option to create a french reichkommisariat

[unreal basin]

Vichy France I guess

😭

[toxic sapphire]

guys I will just start a 1939 game kill poland and die to france

bc im tuff

[coarse willow]

aww

[unreal basin]

lesss go

Hungry mentioned

[quiet vessel]

i made this focus icon for my romania mod is it W or L

first time properly doing this

so

[unreal basin]

W

[fallen widget]

W

[grizzled yarrow]

Guys whats the best alt hist path for ussr

[coarse willow]

rate the ugliness of the peace deal 1-10

[grizzled yarrow]

7

[ebon badge]

5, i’ve seen way worse

[coarse willow]

i tried to be sorta realistic but due to the weird mechanics of unpassable territory in the sahara and me slipping up in france i made some mistakes

i got mittel africa tho 🥹 (if you squint)

[hot patrol]

the tiger does not meedle with the influence of yugoslavs.

[hot patrol]

animated superevents

smth like that

[ebon badge]

thank you

[hot patrol]

they got edit songs though

man

[quiet vessel]

what acctually is this

???

is it a head?

[coarse willow]

a piggy bank bro

meant to represent financial ruin

[quiet vessel]

oh snap it is

i've literally never seen that until now

😭

[steep wyvern]

It’s a money pig being broken

[sonic sand]

Tryth nvke

[hot patrol]

this'll be a tough nut to crack

i think

and hope

[sonic sand]

Mods @woeful osprey has a swastika in their pfp

Smite them from the heavens

[hot patrol]

However, later

[sonic sand]

No

[hot patrol]

That's not a swastika

[steep wyvern]

It’s chatGPT logo trust

[hot patrol]

No my paradrop

[sonic sand]

Looks like one

[sonic sand]

Trust

[sonic sand]

[sonic sand]

People are so stupid omg.

[quiet vessel]

🤓

[sonic sand]

How did you even get a j*b to pay for this game

[hasty linden]

guys i think germany claims memel

not sure tho

[sonic sand]

I would think every employer sees your IQ being at 74 and being like hell no

[sonic sand]

It appears Germany has claimed Memel

Gotta go make sure tho

[hasty linden]

wow

for real?

[sonic sand]

Yep they claimed Memel

[quiet vessel]

this guy fs a redditor 😭

[hasty linden]

crazy i saw no event tho

[quiet vessel]

"yeah i take pride in making fun of people online" 😭

pack it up unc

[sonic sand]

I am not im just annoying as hell!

[sonic sand]

I take pride in hating on everyone equally

Thats true equality right there

[quiet vessel]

ts is not funny or quirky unc

[sonic sand]

I never said it was supposed to be

[candid pecan]

can someone do mp with me

im pretty sure

new*

[sonic sand]

No!

Because

Im busy

[candid pecan]

rip

[sonic sand]

Otherwise it would be a no

[mellow shale]

bud r u stupid
the one shown on his pfp is a swastika back from the mauryan empire from 1000 years ago
you're getting it confused with the swastika used by the reich

[sonic sand]

Because I don't like mp

[candid pecan]

ok

[mellow shale]

the bad one is tilted like 60 degrees

[sonic sand]

Swastikaaaaa

[candid pecan]

45*

[mellow shale]

thats why i said like

[toxic sapphire]

I forgot about the eastern front while fighting in the benelux but when I checked romania had pushed deep into poland

[mellow shale]

bc i dont know fs

[candid pecan]

yes well 90 degrees is a right angle so half of 90 degrees which is 45 is tilted perfectly diagonally

[sonic sand]

Romania trying not to steal all of poland

[toxic sapphire]

I littersly lost kaliningrad but gained a lot of landwhile they almost sealed off their entire border with soviets

my commander mightve sent all the kaliningrad troops to the Frontline but over the seas

[sonic sand]

Brodie is cooked

[candid pecan]

rip

[toxic sapphire]

dont know airforce but still have air superiority in every region

[bright matrix]

My brother is saying that Hoi 4 is a neo-Nazi game, man, I'm already mad. I told him it's not, and he's accusing me of saying that to my parents.

What do I do?

[sonic sand]

I remember in September when the winged hussars arrived, coming down a mountain side, coming down they turned the tide.

[candid pecan]

explain that you can play as uk or soviets and fight the nazis instead

[toxic sapphire]

my tv just got an ad for free choccy milk by watching ads

[sonic sand]

Commie bastard

[bright matrix]

He saw me playing the TNO mod.

[sonic sand]

Oh brother

[bright matrix]

What do I do??

[sonic sand]

Well let him

[candid pecan]

iy

[bright matrix]

I'm going to join the call, can you tell him?

[toxic sapphire]

im doing it without anything just for fun

[sonic sand]

Explain to your parents what you do in your free time is your choice, you aren't radicalized and probably never will be

[toxic sapphire]

here

[sonic sand]

And that your brother is misunderstanding the meaning behind the game

[bright matrix]

Ok

[sonic sand]

Its like saying Wolfenstein is a neo nazi game

Even though you beat up and kill nazis in it

[bright matrix]

It sucks.

[sonic sand]

What does

[bright matrix]

I hate going through this kind of situation.

[bright matrix]

He said I was learning this on Discord.

[toxic sapphire]

why is mussolini killing france

[patent thistle]

i always hate the soviet war, without spies it takes SO long-

[bright matrix]

That only has white supremacists and gays.

[sonic sand]

Where does your family fall on that political tree

[bright matrix]

What do you mean by that?

[toxic sapphire]

should I do ts or nah

[sonic sand]

Ask him right infront of your parents how would he know that unless he was also picking that stuff up from discord

[sonic sand]

Conservative, liberal

[bright matrix]

He's very opportunistic; he knows I use Discord and decided to say that just to see me get in trouble.

[bright matrix]

Conservative

Ma

ga

[toxic sapphire]

@bright matrix do i change anything on it or nah

[bright matrix]

Hmm

[toxic sapphire]

just wanna push into paris like an ordinary guy

[bright matrix]

No

Don't attack yet.

Make sure your sky is green.

And that you have enough divisions.

[sonic sand]

Say you can go down the path of a hypothetical US civil war and restore order as the orange in the mod you play

[dusky burrow]

You should probably extend your line to include Luxembourg, but that said you may be in a tough spot if you attack right now. Get a collab or get more force superiority I think

[sonic sand]

Or something

[sonic sand]

You aint a helper

[bright matrix]

My family isn't even from the United States, but they're fanatical about the United States.

[sonic sand]

Oh shit they a helper

[toxic sapphire]

what should I do

[bright matrix]

Put many planes in place, and when you go to war, look at your sky.

[sonic sand]

Yes that's how it goes

Yall finna get deported

[bright matrix]

Send a photo of your aircraft production.

[sonic sand]

[bright matrix]

I am Brazilian

[toxic sapphire]

which to add

[sonic sand]

🇧🇷

Brazilll

[bright matrix]

Select the planes and click on those regions.

[sonic sand]

Thats bad

[toxic sapphire]

just imported 100 fighters into netherlands

[bright matrix]

I don't know how to play soccer or samba.

[toxic sapphire]

ik I just wanna know which ones

[sonic sand]

You're bouta get deported

[bright matrix]

And I don't live in Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo.

[bright matrix]

Can you go to Call?

[toxic sapphire]

yes but not talk

[bright matrix]

Ok

[toxic sapphire]

h wanna call rn or

[bright matrix]

Between

Join now

[sonic sand]

I cannot wait for Russian germa

Er

Russian Germany?

[bright matrix]

Click on your planes and place them in the zones you want and activate their missions.

[toxic sapphire]

sorry I dont understand

[patent thistle]

german russia*

[toxic sapphire]

use chat instead

[sonic sand]

No russian german

[toxic sapphire]

I understand and did

ty for letting me know how to make air superiority

@bright matrix

yes

I understand

[bright matrix]

Ok

[bright matrix]

What more do you need?

[toxic sapphire]

nothing else,thanks for letting me know i never knew how to defend aerial

Just some help with how to take belgium

[bright matrix]

What?

OK

[grizzled yarrow]

Sob

[toxic sapphire]

GUYS I HAVE AIR SUPERIORITY IN ALL MY LAND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER

[sudden thistle]

small fields

[toxic sapphire]

I BROKE TROUGH THE MAGINOT

[surreal ether]

Lmao

[woeful osprey]

bruh

[surreal ether]

Italy is saddled with all the wars Germany started (Germany is still at war with all those countries, just dragging Central Powers into it)

[toxic sapphire]

@bright matrix I BROKE THE MAGINOT LINE

[woeful osprey]

pov: you havent studied pagan religions at all

[toxic sapphire]

PLAYER WITH 33 HOURS PLAYED BREAKS TROUGH THE MAGINOT LINE

[fringe shell]

naval invasion🥀

[sudden thistle]

its not hard

[dusky burrow]

as long as it's interesting 🙂

[dusky burrow]

why did you call finland into the war

[fringe shell]

nah

i was finland

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[toxic sapphire]

I have like 30 horus

hours

@sudden thistle should I establish Vichy or take all of it

[dreamy moat]

will the game go on sale in the near future? (black friday for example)

[glad cosmos]

ищу чела для хойка ванила с всеми длс, прямо сейчас

[dreamy moat]

i want to get the game but id rather buy it on sale

[toxic sapphire]

should I attack ussr right after france or later

[glad cosmos]

❤️ VANILA DLC 90276365029757964

[neat kayak]

Easy two achvs

[toxic sapphire]

how do I make a naval invasion

[neat kayak]

First research transport ship

in case you don't have researched

after you reseach transport ship

you can nav invade with 10 divs

if you want to land more research landing craft

and in the end advanced landing craft

[dreamy moat]

Could anyone answer my question please

[neat kayak]

yes

it maybe on sale this month

cuz the new dlc is coming

if you don't get it now

[dreamy moat]

Thank you very much

[neat kayak]

Christmas sale

[dreamy moat]

Alright I’ll try and wait till then lol

Game looks super fun

[neat kayak]

It is

but very stressfull sometimes

especially britain

[candid pecan]

anyone wanna do mp

im kinda new

i have 100 hours

[dreamy moat]

No way

I’m a strategist

[neat kayak]

good

but this game has some rng

[candid pecan]

anyone

[neat kayak]

a lot of rng

[dreamy moat]

RNG?

How so

[neat kayak]

events

[candid pecan]

oh yeah

forming austria hungary is super rng

[dreamy moat]

I don’t have the game so

[dreamy moat]

I’m from Bosnia

[candid pecan]

ok

[dreamy moat]

I want to see what would happen if Yugoslavia never went to crap

Who cares about Austria Hungary tbh

[candid pecan]

bro i rlly want someone to teach me the game

i always lose to the allies

i always beat poland

[dreamy moat]

Think if u were the allies what u would do

[candid pecan]

then stalemate with netherlands and belgium

hi

ferr

frr

[toxic sapphire]

what are these bluds doing

[candid pecan]

idk lol

[toxic sapphire]

btw i won a 3 front war just now

[candid pecan]

cool

[toxic sapphire]

france poland benelux n yugosavia

with a challenge][

[candid pecan]

nice

[toxic sapphire]

it has to be 1939,

[candid pecan]

lemme see the progress so far

[toxic sapphire]

i cant recruit units]

[candid pecan]

what.

dang

[candid pecan]

send map

bro as germany

i can destroy poland yugoslavia and romania all at once then just stalemate with benelux

[candid pecan]

be = belgium ne = netherlands lux = luxembourg

[toxic sapphire]

b i can tell why

[candid pecan]

so just belgium netherlands and luxembourg

[toxic sapphire]

aerial inferiority

[candid pecan]

nah i have superiority

over benelux region

do u wannna do mp

aw

neither lol

y not

[toxic sapphire]

ever tried invading the western part and using that to invade towards eastern belgium

and NEVER

i repeat NEVER

[candid pecan]

oh ok

[toxic sapphire]

declare war on all the benelux at once

[tepid crown]

I do unfortunately, kinda like a curse at times

[candid pecan]

lol ik that

i just lose to netherlands and belgium

[toxic sapphire]

wait

AND belgium

[candid pecan]

wanna play

[cunning crescent]

How do I switch to Beta version 1.12.12 I cant find it

[candid pecan]

yeah cuz french and british troops just bombard the country

but when i get antwerp its golden

[tepid crown]

Join mp servers like Red Baron, they’re probably the most active now. A lot of other servers have kinda died off

It’s usually what Germany and Italy do

[toxic sapphire]

speedrun the north part of netherlands and expand it into amsterdam and make it an encirclement

[candid pecan]

ok

[toxic sapphire]

then declare on belgium

[candid pecan]

so focus on the north

then south

i rlly want someone to play mp with me so i can learn

[tepid crown]

There’s plenty of nation guides in servers like that

[tepid crown]

Can’t rn, got too much school work to do rn, procrastinating here

[candid pecan]

same

[toxic sapphire]

rate aerial superiority

[candid pecan]

w

[toxic sapphire]

uk has like 13 failed invasion attempts

[honest vale]

guys im trying to go trotsky mexico, its 1938 and the event still hasnt popped up😭

[dreamy moat]

what the hell is that

[azure palm]

Just got dragged into a war with USA and France by facist belgium and they just overran germany, axis capitulated including me, and now I just multiple states and became democratic

Also there are 2 democratic prussias now, one under the USA and one under France

[candid pecan]

send map

[toxic sapphire]

should I kill spain

[toxic sapphire]

aerial

[toxic sapphire]

@candid pecan

[royal marten]

Do you guys regularly win border conflicts?

[azure palm]

I literly never fight them

[royal marten]

Same

Because I never win

[azure palm]

Never see them except when I play soviet

[warped flint]

The amount of fighters in every airgroup is not very appealing

[split bane]

I've never fought them at least I've never actively decided to fight them

[candid pecan]

sorry i was afk

yeah

if u want

is there a way im missing to keep your mefo bill factory factor rlly low

[wheat nimbus]

Is there an old world blues discord?

[cursive socket]

anyone know a mod about colonization that actually, the two i tested are outdated and crashes

[dusky burrow]

Soviets can win border conflicts rather easily

Japanese may require more trouble

Don't know about Chinese

[junior oyster]

h-hey guys..

cough cough

[candid pecan]

what have you done

[junior oyster]

this is more than a 1991 achoo

[royal marten]

the chinese one suck

Paradox said

they want to rework them

but I doubt they'll make a meaningful change

[dusky burrow]

Okay fair

[dusky burrow]

well at least the balkans have already been balkanized so balkanizing the rest fo the world gives you an edge

[candid pecan]

h

[junior oyster]

i also balkanized oceania and america

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[candid pecan]

whats the best route to go first

2qi5

25ont wsd534mwjp5

[dusky burrow]

As in?

You are researching military engineering vehicles

[candid pecan]

srry wait my pc is bugging

wrong screenshot

i meant here

actually

imma get fuhrerprinzip

procrastination is key

oh wait

[fickle thicket]

get price controls so ur economy doesnt shit itself

[candid pecan]

this is even more important

who should i pick @dusky burrow

[hearty totem]

Idk if anyone here knows of the Metro mod, but ive been messing with divisions and I think ive made a modestly good one.

but idk

[dusky burrow]

I know Todt is definitely one of them, I forget the others

[candid pecan]

ok

[fickle thicket]

todt then switch to speer, hess, and gobbels (is what i use)

[dusky burrow]

Yes that makes sense

I had a feeling Hess was in there

[heavy vigil]

No AAT so no hess

Bormann

Goebbels is ok

[dusky burrow]

Oh no AAT? RIP

[heavy vigil]

Todt/speer are good

[dusky burrow]

Not the 264 kmh division

[fickle thicket]

also whats better: doing the focus for prioritize economic growth at the start of the game or clicking the decision in the decisions tab

[sudden thistle]

Blitzkreig

[hearty totem]

a bit weird

[atomic grove]

can generals still gain THEIR xp (not army xp) while still being en route?

[craggy trail]

No. A general has to there to gain XP to level up. They cannot be en route.

They have to participate in active battles to earn experience for leveling up and traits

[hearty totem]

I think ive figured out production

[fickle thicket]

what ur build

[fickle thicket]

mod

[hearty totem]

yes

metro

[fickle thicket]

uh

[hearty totem]

2033

[fickle thicket]

dont know anythin about that

[loud pivot]

how do I recover

I’m sobbing

[fair horizon]

You dont

Its over bud

what lack of proper screening does to a mfer

[dusky burrow]

Build another carrier

Will take you about a year and a half

[loud pivot]

I am but a small minor nation

[fickle thicket]

what nation

[heavy vigil]

Im pretty sure they get xp when en route

[eternal aspen]

Eu4 makes me wanna play hoi4

Less brain damage needed to understand and play

[fair horizon]

this is why i make escort carriers

[eternal aspen]

You... cant do that?

Well, kinda

[fair horizon]

yeah the converted cruisers have 40 deck space

very cheap too

[eternal aspen]

They're basically just converted cruisers

Would be nice to have a module for increased recovery after a battle

Like how we had for supply carriers

[fair horizon]

i think it would be cool if you could classify them as escort carriers and make them cheaper for like -10 planes or something

i usually use the extra ones to bomb enemy ships in their own harbor

gives a use for destroyers too

[dusky burrow]

I mean if you're running out of manpower sure

but ideally you want more manpower since 0.05 * manpower + 0.005 * ic = supremacy

[fair horizon]

???

no i have a fleet and supremacy already

i make the carriers for other operations

enemy ships can hide in harbors and i dont like that

[dusky burrow]

ah I see

yeah they're not un-useful then

[fair horizon]

yeah tbh i only make a couple converted before moving on to make my 1940 carriers

but i usually take the extras and use them for other stuff like cas/port strike

[eternal aspen]

there's a mod for that

[fair horizon]

mods are stupid

[eternal aspen]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383026142&searchtext=escort+carrier

it's not good, but it's smth

[nocturne cedar]

booohoo

who uses carriers

spam destroyers = gg

[stable leaf]

Silence pleb, Strong Naval bomber

https://tenor.com/view/biden-blast-joe-biden-biden-blast-gif-6547929686164862695

[eternal aspen]

not meta

[stable leaf]

I will now build the Kido Butai and launch my glorious conquest of East Asia

[eternal aspen]

meta is light cruisers

[stable leaf]

60 Light Attack Cruisers 😭

[eternal aspen]

another good way to do it is historical ships

they work pretty good with the new navy overhaul

[nocturne cedar]

it is meta

spam cheap destroyers or subs

gg

[eternal aspen]

subs areslow, trust me it's good to use CL, i ain't too high so ik i'm not crazy

[stable leaf]

I've only seen that work for getting supremacy for naval invasions and not actually fighting fleets

[nocturne cedar]

quantity beats quality 99% of times

[quasi shoal]

I wonder if i'll win 🧐

[dusky burrow]

You are in fact, not crazy

and in fact that's perfectly normal

most enemy ships are destroyers, so yeah CLs are great

(in mp most ships are still screens, so CLs are still great)

[eternal aspen]

Ships have to he mostly screen according to game logic

4:1 screen:capital

[atomic grove]

do generals gain xp based on how many casualties the general's divisions have inflicted on the enemy?

[eternal aspen]

gained based on division XP for every division under their control

ofx only in combat or occupation

[spark musk]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-nord-sons-of-skyrim-dunmer-elder-scrolls-gif-6326142971813275663

your cooked bro

[normal trellis]

Hello, I'm pretty much new to the game, and I'm trying to figure out how to increase the special forces cap for the paratroopers

[quasi shoal]

I killed the tiny part in russia and it for some reason instakilled the icelandic

[normal trellis]

Oh wait, there's a channel for my question

[spark musk]

some nations have focuses in their military tree for them but there is also research to higher the cap and more regular soldiers to allow for more spec ops

I forgot if the special forces doctrine is in vanilla

since ive played only road to 56 recently

[normal trellis]

K, thanks

[fresh iris]

anyone wanna be tenth in an among us lobby

[spark musk]

quit lying

[atomic grove]

the special forces cap is based off how many battallions u have in total in ur army

[vocal ice]

damn

[fickle thicket]

3 crashes later

[wet plover]

Anybody have a good Cold War mod where the UI isnt horrible

[warped flint]

I kinda want to play Italy

I have like never played them

[fair horizon]

i hate them

least favorite major ive played

i havent played russia btw

[silk fern]

me and benny have spent 100s of games together

[fair horizon]

having to fix your army before you can do better in combat than a minor kinda sucks ngl

[silk fern]

yah

i forget to do the military tree very often

than get confused when i go to war and my army sucks

[split bane]

Uh like irl Cold War or alt hist Cold Wars too
Because the only one I can think of is Thousand Week Reich but that's like the better version of TNO ||imo||

[wet plover]

IRL Cold War

[fair horizon]

italians are just built different (worse)

[split bane]

Yeah I can't think of any, I only know about Cold War the Iron Curtain anyway

[wet plover]

Damn

I wish modded a would just leave the UI alone. Iron Curtain looked like it could’ve been so much fun but the UI is just so bad

On another note

[dusky burrow]

Just go for Java or if you can't get naval supremacy there go for Palembang

Fighting across Sumatra is a nightmare (because 0 supply)

[wet plover]

Naval supremacy is not an issue

[warped flint]

Wonder if ill be able to defeat a max buffed germany

[fair horizon]

bro what is that fleet 💀

so tiny

[wet plover]

That’s the consequence of dealing with the UKs fleet

Destroyed my subs

[terse pasture]

Anyone know any good mods (not millennium dawn)

[fair horizon]

yeah they do that

[warped flint]

Millennium dawns pretty good I would say

[silk fern]

the fire rises

[terse pasture]

Such a slow mod

[charred lake]

Great War Redux but if ur a beginner prolly wait on that one

[warped flint]

You ask for good mods and I give you one

bruh

[silk fern]

just use a nasa supercomputer

[terse pasture]

Yeah good not tryna manage my taxes and economy 🙏

[warped flint]

Yeah that stuffs stupid

I never played it

[terse pasture]

Nah my computer can handle it I just mean it takes ages to do anything

[fair horizon]

skill issue

[terse pasture]

If you enjoy waiting hours for a civ to be built suit yourself lol

[fair horizon]

i play minor nations

[silk fern]

millenium dawn is the most boring mod of all time

[fair horizon]

tbf i dont play overhauls in hoi4

unless you count rt56

[terse pasture]

Nah fr

[warped flint]

I swear everytime I play tno goofy shit like this happens

[dusky burrow]

i see

[dusky burrow]

I think Finland is just winning

[warped flint]

It has gotten even worse

Not much worse but still got pushed

[dusky burrow]

Isn't that the same front

Like it hasn't moved one tile

[brittle cypress]

the anti communists fight finland?

does finalnd have content btw?

[warped flint]

Moved some tiles

[warped flint]

Nope

there both fighting the aryan brotherhood together

[brittle cypress]

what's with finnish arkhangelsk

[warped flint]

Wait you may be right

[dusky burrow]

anti-communists are a finnish puppet I believe

[warped flint]

I am special

[brittle cypress]

does finland have content though

[dusky burrow]

finland probably pushed from the anti-communist territory into Arkhangelsk, or they did a naval invasion

[brittle cypress]

i played a few years ago

i dont remember them having any

[warped flint]

No

[brittle cypress]

amazing

peak tno development

[warped flint]

Lowkey would be borging

just defending your self from russia

[brittle cypress]

true i guess they wouldn't do much

[warped flint]

on a 3 tile front

woah

so difficult

[brittle cypress]

have them uh

go to war against germany

and get nuked

ok but why would they go to war

who knows

[dusky burrow]

yeah

like the germany dev team is stuck but then you have former submod dev teams that are steaming ahead

and thus you get like 6 patches about chilean antarctica

before an actual major patch

[warped flint]

I hate how long it takes to reunfily russia after the regional reunification

[dusky burrow]

aryan brotherhood will get destroyed 😭

[atomic harbor]

hey guys i jst started the game and im on ww2 as uruguay, they gave me convoys like other countries and guns, but as im so far away i wont even touch germany LOL

am i scamming countries or what

[warped flint]

Update

[dusky burrow]

NOOOOOOOOOO

finland is losing nooooooooooo

[warped flint]

I never knew these guys slowly collapsed piece by piece

[brittle cypress]

bro...

don't play uruguay

[dusky burrow]

send your army to the UK and then naval invade

Or send your army to Africa, naval invade Italy, and get an Italian puppet

[atomic harbor]

its my country

[atomic harbor]

ummm idk how to do that

[silk fern]

slight intervention in the russian civil war

[atomic harbor]

we didnt do nothing on ww2 rlly

[warped flint]

NOOOO

[atomic harbor]

so il jst stay like this reciving convoys and shit to conquer all south america after ww2 ends

[warped flint]

FINLAND NOOOO

NOGSD

SFG

SDF

GNO

[dusky burrow]

draw a fallback line in like Egypt and then your troops will transport themselves there

[dusky burrow]

aaaaa

[atomic harbor]

Uk its getting bombed rn

so its not a good idea i think

i jst started today but i played a roblox copy of this game for hundreds of hours

this game its so well done

it even has real politicians names dude

[dusky burrow]

there's a roblox copy of hoi4?

[warped flint]

Rise of nations?

[atomic harbor]

yes

[warped flint]

Peak

[atomic harbor]

Yes, its a simplified version of the game

[dusky burrow]

I see

[atomic harbor]

online

[dusky burrow]

rise of nations gameplay is sort of crazy though

[atomic harbor]

in which way

btw can i jst let the war pass and make a big army to then invade small countries as a democracy?

[dusky burrow]

lot of micromanagement and large numbers of stuff

[atomic harbor]

Yea i have a pic where they sended over 3 thousand nukes to an uruguay conquered south america

[dusky burrow]

No, if you are manually justifying on nations they need to have generated world tension

I've seen the most backwater of places have like 3 trillion people, while new yorck city has like 3

[atomic harbor]

how do they generate it

[dusky burrow]

justifications, certain focuses, certain events in wars, peace deals, stuff like that

[atomic harbor]

here its sometime it happend on an argentina run

[dusky burrow]

rip

[atomic harbor]

and how long the game can be? i saw it can go to 1949 right?

[uncut carbon]

not looking good

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[atomic harbor]

but it jst ends there?

[dusky burrow]

well it can go for hundreds of years if you really want, but then you will wait a long time

[uncut carbon]

it can go to year 3000 if u wanted to

but the game realistically ends around 1944-45 for me

sometimes i have a rare 1950 world conquest

but the game slows down a lot once u hit 1943>

[atomic harbor]

does world tension happend after 1949?

[uncut carbon]

during ww2 it spikes to 100 and never really goes down

[atomic harbor]

after ww2 ends it goes down?

[dusky burrow]

it very well can

[dusky burrow]

slowly by 0.5% a month

[wraith mauve]

Napoleons legacy 1936 is a insane mod

[atomic harbor]

i would invade anything if i wasnt a democracy but for my polithical belifs i cant go on any other type of goverment

not even in game

[uncut carbon]

very slowly but if u annex anything it spikes to 100 again

[devout trench]

democracy in hoi4 isnt democracy since you pick candidate

making it a dictatorship

[atomic harbor]

and what happends on elections after 1949

do they run or what

[devout trench]

yes

[atomic harbor]

can you play as like idk

modern leaders

[devout trench]

but i doubt your computer can run it

[devout trench]

no

[atomic harbor]

i got good pc

[devout trench]

game is only made to run until like 1947

[devout trench]

its paradox engine that is the problem

game cant handle so many calculations

[atomic harbor]

its barely taking 5 gigs of ram rn and i got 32, and like 5% cpu

[uncut carbon]

its the engine

u could have a masterrace pc

doesnt help

i have a 4090 build game still slows down a lot

[mystic sand]

oddest game happened today

[atomic harbor]

What do yall mean tho slows down

like actions? or actual performance

[uncut carbon]

days tick slower

[mystic sand]

the soviets got steamrolled, but survived entirely because sevastapol held

[uncut carbon]

1936 to 1939 takes as as long as 1945-1946

[atomic harbor]

oh idm abt that

[uncut carbon]

the entire game also feels a lot less smooth

cuz its so slow

the days itself wouldnt be that big of a deal to me

but the game just feels slow and unattractive to play

[mystic sand]

they only collapsed when i was on the doorstep of vienna, so all of europe is in the allies

[uncut carbon]

thats why u dont continue a campaign past 1945 tbh

just call it quits

[atomic harbor]

its 1941 and i havent even invaded a country

i wanna invade paraguay or idk

but i dont have any justification

i got military acces to walk thru brazil

[mystic sand]

what country are you?