hoi4-general

[toxic sapphire]

how did she manage to do this

[cobalt imp]

that worked with france

[cobalt imp]

ouch

my little sister is 13

im 55

[toxic sapphire]

mine is 7

[toxic sapphire]

wait a second

[cobalt imp]

what

[bright matrix]

I want to cook Yugoslavia

[cobalt imp]

my older sibling is 43

[toxic sapphire]

55-13=42

[cobalt imp]

67-21= 41

[hybrid galleon]

HOI4 is considered a horror game due to one jumpscare

[slim nexus]

Some days ago there was this guy saying that in the first 72hrs he menage to make mare nostrum twice.

People are just started to lie smh 😭

[hybrid galleon]

Naval_ivasion.MP4

[cobalt imp]

when your naval invasion turns into a slaughter of your troops who got encircled

[toxic sapphire]

your parents had a kid 42 YEARS AFTER having you

[cobalt imp]

Idek what that is

[cobalt imp]

Yes

My dad is 50, my mom is turning 18 next year

[toxic sapphire]

okay okay

[slim nexus]

So what you did in 21 hours

[toxic sapphire]

I was jokin

[toxic sapphire]

huh?

[hybrid galleon]

ehhh we'll make enough flags for the mothers its fine

[toxic sapphire]

it was kinda obviously satire tho

[cobalt imp]

yeah my dad is 51 my mom is 51 i am 15

[slim nexus]

What you did in 29 hts

[slim nexus]

Yeah sure..

[hybrid galleon]

dawg i just got done with college for today don't do this

[cobalt imp]

whay

what

[toxic sapphire]

few badges

[hybrid galleon]

i dont want to do math

[cobalt imp]

51-15 = 36

[slim nexus]

Actually no

Is 35

How you even missed that

[hybrid galleon]

bait used to be believable

[toxic sapphire]

hitler

[slim nexus]

Damn

[cobalt imp]

...

50-15 = 35

51-15 = 36

[toxic sapphire]

went afk for 2 hours and DAMN I must say

Poland always going on side quests

[cobalt imp]

is this non hist

[toxic sapphire]

hist

[hybrid galleon]

poland either collapse easily or solo

[radiant pelican]

rate the offensive

[toxic sapphire]

im pretty sure the date was 1948

[cobalt imp]

no reason to attack africa

[safe wing]

who are you?

[toxic sapphire]

stupid

[cobalt imp]

it has nothing tbh

[toxic sapphire]

killing germsny lets u puppet it

mainland germsny

[safe wing]

it does have the Suez

[radiant pelican]

look at theline dud

[safe wing]

but thats it

[safe wing]

and its only important as Italy

[radiant pelican]

?

[cobalt imp]

lord have mercy

[toxic sapphire]

why does france always surrender

[cobalt imp]

france had NO reason to lose bro

[radiant pelican]

small detour

[toxic sapphire]

EXACTLY

[cobalt imp]

Your troops have to traverse the sahara desert

[safe wing]

like what country

are you

[radiant pelican]

uk

[safe wing]

The Empire then

[safe wing]

thats who I thought

[cobalt imp]

rise of nations so nostalgic

[toxic sapphire]

real

[cobalt imp]

12 year old me used to fw that heavily

[safe wing]

never played as I had abandonned Roblox by then

[toxic sapphire]

SAME BRO

[toxic sapphire]

I made it myself btw

[cobalt imp]

now i look at rise of nations it looks so basic

[safe wing]

my last day on Roblox was in November 2016

[toxic sapphire]

real

[cobalt imp]

i was so good i formed the british and mongol empires

[toxic sapphire]

its kinda sad

[cobalt imp]

my first day was 2017

[toxic sapphire]

only?

[safe wing]

Peak Roblox was 2006-2012

[cobalt imp]

i formed lots of stuff

theyre the hardest 2

[safe wing]

I was lucky to play from 2009-2012

[toxic sapphire]

I still have pictures of all my formables

I replayed it to check out how it is

Just a bunch of tank spam

[cobalt imp]

patria grande is so tuff

carthage is a cool one too

hardest formable is NAU

[toxic sapphire]

Just a bunch of stuff

[toxic sapphire]

no

its really easy

also they brang back sau

[cobalt imp]

i am joking bruh

usa with nau just goes insane

[toxic sapphire]

sau is back

Brazilians go crazy w it

[cobalt imp]

nice

[tepid crown]

What button were you pressing. Lmao.

[toxic sapphire]

I don't have prtscn

I did wsb

[cobalt imp]

got this encirclement while just farming xp in spain

booya baby 🤑

[toxic sapphire]

100 men vs death of brat tito

[toxic sapphire]

HOW DO U CONTROL IT IT NEVER LETS ME

@cobalt imp

[dusty ridge]

even democracy cant handle it

[dusky burrow]

134 heavy cruisers?

I mean yeah that works

[dusty ridge]

torpedo cruiser

not heavy

[dusky burrow]

I see

[dusty ridge]

these things is op

[dusky burrow]

Might have issues dealing with destroyers but yeah definitely can work

[heavy vigil]

I beat the japanese navy as china using only the starting tech that doesnt mean torp 1 is OP

It just means you deathstacked + picked traits + levelled admiral better than AI

[dusty ridge]

maybe

but this is cheep AI

its way harder

am not saying yeah i did a great job

but i dont know if the AI also focus on the navy

[heavy vigil]

Its fine you won

[heavy vigil]

They used to

And then sheep decided that them wasting IC on 100 dockyards is indeed a waste

[remote quarry]

they can't deathstack anyway

unfortunate

[dusty ridge]

for me 100 Docks is good

less than this is bad

as USA i always used to refit all the old ships

all of them

look at this
the Hell of the eastern front

[slim nexus]

When you are winning thei air war but they stille manged to push

[bright matrix]

Bruh

[remote quarry]

how do you have less units than you started with

[slim nexus]

I ususally reinforce them to 9 divisia, sup art and anti air

[remote quarry]

don't waste any xp on template

just use the starting 6 inf, add a support atillery

save all your xp for army reform

[slim nexus]

finishing the last one at 200

[remote quarry]

also, better to do subjugate warlords so you can annex them by war

[heavy vigil]

What doctrine are you going diwn

Down*

[remote quarry]

hopefully you didn't go down any doctrine

[slim nexus]

I am thinking to go to superior fire power only becuase of the soft attack it gives

[heavy vigil]

Its actually good for china

[toxic sapphire]

how do I control nationalist spain

[heavy vigil]

Not rlly for other nations

But for china its good

[toxic sapphire]

can u answer my question pls?

ive been wonderin

also light medium or heavy tanks as germany

[bright matrix]

How do I improve my blisters?

[toxic sapphire]

WAIT

[bright matrix]

What

[toxic sapphire]

HOW DO YOU HAVE RIVERS

[bright matrix]

?

[remote quarry]

medium tank/spg with howitzer

[toxic sapphire]

@bright matrix

I don't have them

[last cave]

huh

[toxic sapphire]

OH

[toxic sapphire]

how do I control nationalist spain to fight spain

for free exp

and misc

[remote quarry]

you send volunteers to nationalist spain

[toxic sapphire]

then u gain control of it for the war or?

im confused

[wicked haven]

Who are you playing as?

[remote quarry]

basically your division are sent to the war

fighting on the side of nationalist spain

[toxic sapphire]

germany

[bright matrix]

Settings

[wicked haven]

If you are sending division you will control them in Spain

[remote quarry]

you retain the control of the divisions

not the spanish divisions ofc

[wicked haven]

Put a commander you want to level up there

Ideally tank divisions

[heavy vigil]

Which? I dont really look through here much

[toxic sapphire]

got the answer

[bright matrix]

Is it worth building railway lines here?

[toxic sapphire]

yes bro your units are less supplied than the jews in ww2

or are they

actually less supplied than current palestinians

[bright arrow]

How do you know when you are river crossing lmao?

[toxic sapphire]

I dont

[bright matrix]

I'm arriving in Paris before the Germans.

[toxic sapphire]

is ts u

[dusty ridge]

hummmmmm

[toxic sapphire]

Hitler scares of bro

Hitler killed himself tommorow

[bright matrix]

Guys, should I send my navy to the English Channel and try to invade the United Kingdom?

[toxic sapphire]

why did my gbp theorist randomly dissapear

[bright arrow]

Yes do it

[wicked haven]

The UK has 7000 planes

It’s over

[bright arrow]

What year?

[wicked haven]

44

[bright arrow]

Ive seen the Uk with over 70k

But it was 1956

[wicked haven]

My paratroopers immediately died on landing

8 divisions of vets

[bright arrow]

Yetus deletus

[wicked haven]

Time to go for Plan Z

[toxic sapphire]

wth is going on with my hoi4

[wicked haven]

Is it even possible to cross the channel atp

[toxic sapphire]

Hitler

[sudden thistle]

its ur pc screen

[bright arrow]

If you get naval or air superiority yes

[sudden thistle]

build good planes

[bright arrow]

If no, then just turn on the soviets

[sudden thistle]

and kill them???

[toxic sapphire]

it doesnt happen anymore

[wicked haven]

I have to do planes

But I cba

Why didn’t Germany do sea lion

[sudden thistle]

because the AI is bad

[wicked haven]

True

Time to annex Spain

[toxic sapphire]

how do I make volunteer forces

[sudden thistle]

Right click a country at war

Near the bottom click “send volunteers”

U have a limited amount of divs to send

Click the army group you want to send

U can send air volunteers as well

But limited too

[bright matrix]

Okay, so what mission should I put my 220 ships on?

Can someone help me plan a naval invasion of the United Kingdom?

[toxic sapphire]

should I go befriend china or japan

ive never went china

just wonderin

[bright matrix]

Hey

Guys

[cobalt imp]

UK has over 7000 pieces of paper u mean

[near schooner]

IS there a UN formable mod?

[cobalt imp]

A good fighter design will shred the AI

[bright matrix]

Who is that hot girl with the iPhone?

THE-

[bright matrix]

Hey nolee

[toxic sapphire]

what

[bright matrix]

Do you think I should try to launch a naval invasion of the United Kingdom?

[toxic sapphire]

just invade London and you'll be good

[toxic sapphire]

with 70 div ofc

[toxic sapphire]

dumahhs don't know context

[bright matrix]

Should I invade Romania?

[toxic sapphire]

easy

[heavy vigil]

No nsfw. #server-rules

[toxic sapphire]

wait thats considered light NSFW or something?

[heavy vigil]

its directly referencing it

[bright matrix]

Can you use sexual language?

[toxic sapphire]

mb

[heavy vigil]

If you have to ask, assume not

[bright matrix]

Bro, the guy just wanted to have some fun.

I don't know what he has in his head.

[safe wing]

Rome Total War Jumpscare

[coarse willow]

ima run germany back so what are the best ships to start building?

[safe wing]

Light cruisers and meat shield destroyers

[bright matrix]

Greater Italy or Roman Empire

[coarse willow]

any capitals?

[bright matrix]

I wanted to make Iberia a puppet show.

[safe wing]

Carriers

[coarse willow]

greater italy is underrated asfg

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/rome-total-war-marching-roman-hastati-julii-faction-gif-16648934775160509213

[near schooner]

plzzz tell me

[coarse willow]

roman is fun but it gets to a point imo

[coarse willow]

alr

should i do screens first?

[safe wing]

Carriers

Then Light crusiers

[coarse willow]

alright ty

[safe wing]

Then garbage destroyers

[safe wing]

I mean

Probably

[heavy vigil]

Why

[safe wing]

Good cannon fodder

I would rather loose them than light cruisers

[quiet vessel]

i doubt

just search it up

[umbral agate]

is easy maintenance good?

cuz you have to waste research on it

but it gives cheaper tanks

[brittle cypress]

Yeah it’s pretty good

[heavy vigil]

If you have what is it like 240 days of research time yeah

[quiet vessel]

gng what we saying irl world tension is

[safe wing]

1 no politics

And 2 less than 25%

Also world tension is a stupid mechanic

[brittle cypress]

What’s the world tension when Czechs got annexed

Were there

Actually wait no

I lied

China Japan war was a thing

ok maybe we’re not that high up world tension

[safe wing]

Probably that

[noble garden]

For once in my life of playing HOI4 the Soviets weren't stupid (story:I was playing comunist România, builded forts along the mountains and godforbid but the Soviets were smart enough to put troops at the Soviet-Hungarian border)

[heavy vigil]

I would put a comment but no modern politics (post 1945)

[fading elk]

U guys think I’ll be able to take on the axis

[heavy vigil]

Why did you puppet china and not annex them after puppeting or just annex them at all

[fading elk]

I just prefer to puppet big ppl I conquer helps alot with borders

Tho I did realise later it did lock me out of a focus

But it’s fine I can just trade really good for what I don’t have

[heavy vigil]

I mean you should puppet FER

It gives you eastern siberian army for larp

[fading elk]

I kinda thought I’d do what irl Japan would do if taken over half the ussr and China

No need to bother with garrisons if u let ur puppet do that

[misty fossil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/47SHXWJb53

[fading elk]

I’m wondering how hard going thru the east will be

I gave the uk mil access cus why not

This feels like some alt timeline where Japan joined the allies

[bright matrix]

Someone help me!

How should I plan my naval invasion?

[fading elk]

But took over all of Asia

[fading elk]

Taking the south and u should be fine

[heavy widget]

i cant believe i let this game sit in my library for 4 years before i got into it

[fading elk]

We all have that one game

[bright matrix]

Should I deploy all my ships to support a naval invasion?

[eternal aspen]

please screenshot using win+shift+s

it's a smaller inconvenience yes, but using phone to take photo of screens, let alone curved ones, isn't the best way for us to help, plus it's harder to see incase you miss anything

[bright matrix]

Ok

[split bane]

Avoid the Channel, the British AI will make sure you can't do anything there

[bright matrix]

Should I send all my planes to attack the United Kingdom as well?

[eternal aspen]

yes, also don't use subs

[mystic sand]

Moneyshot

[bright matrix]

Are you sure? I've already planned a naval invasion.

[eternal aspen]

especially in the EC, it has a debuff that weakens them to be more useless than convoys alone

[split bane]

It'll be very difficult for you to launch as Germany through the Channel as your navy isn't as big

[bright matrix]

I'm from Italy.

I am Italy.

[misty fossil]

sweden with 300 factories?>?

HOW

[eternal aspen]

i might actually pray to a god if it means my mod works

bc wtf is wrong with it? there's nthn that should be wrong

[heavy widget]

lemme take a look for ya

i got a relatively passing grade in a computer science class back in middle school

might be able to work it out for ya

[bright matrix]

Hoi4 is basically win or alt-f4

Well, I usually add up super heavy tanks.

I only make tanks

[heavy widget]

aint nothing wemod cant fix

[quiet vessel]

just beat a bloody megaknight boss bandit e golem deck

get gone pal

[vapid quiver]

why is vichy france getting all my land

[bright matrix]

They occupied their land.

[vapid quiver]

but the stuff i occupied goes to vichy for some reason

[summer beacon]

i had a ship called the uss wahoo and it got sunk

[hybrid galleon]

how does oen auto upgrade ships?

[simple citrus]

bruh why this mf deadass losing to poland

[coarse willow]

yeahhh naww

[eternal aspen]

shldn't be wth

anyways L germany

[simple citrus]

yeah

on historical

i haven't interferred in any way with anything in europe

mf

HE LOST RHINELAND TOO

LMFAO

[dusky burrow]

Germans supporting China versus Soviets supporting Japan, who wins

[simple citrus]

i'm crine bruh how does bot fumble that hard

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[simple citrus]

aaaaaand germany broke molotov-ribbentrop pact for some reason

[dusky burrow]

Might be something with road to 56?

[simple citrus]

uh
i kept the original tree focuses for everyone so idk tbf

[simple citrus]

maybe though

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[wary sparrow]

switzerland went down their german puppet path but since i wasnt fascist they became the nearest fascist nations puppet 💀

[simple nebula]

hello

[copper sluice]

yo are screening ships dds?

[coarse willow]

supporting china as germany is always 10x better

more fun to support before ww2 and they arent a pain in the ass later

[serene inlet]

most broken inf temp ever ngl

[quasi shoal]

😭

[quasi shoal]

what's the temp

[tepid crown]

🙏 please don’t say it has artillery in it

[eternal aspen]

rate the encirclement (i'm in nudge making states)

[dusky burrow]

I mean as long as it's not MP or sheep's or the like

because then you do really need a competent japan

[fair horizon]

you just need like 3 battleships to reach max

[dusky burrow]

really?

In any case the light cruiser force is better at actually killing things than at naval supremacy

And conversely a battleship bathtub fleet is better at naval supremacy than killing

[hoary pecan]

huys whats the best tank division with dlcs for 1939?

design*

[last geyser]

depends

on what you want

[serene inlet]

the little dog makes armtracs spgs and micros his way to moscow

the lion poops 200 divisions, executes the battleplan and closes his eyes until he hears the clapping from the peace deal

[serene inlet]

dont even use this against AI its just way too overkill honestly

[ivory veldt]

The Andorran AI is really cooking with this one

[dusky burrow]

Something like this can be your tank design

[serene inlet]

engine?

[dusky burrow]

This isn't bad either

[analog bloom]

North africa is being took by the allies, im on scarping the barrel and i got 0mp. chat how can i fix this

[dusky burrow]

Add as many engine and armor clicks as you're fine with

You should probably add at least a few armor and engine clicks since the enemy can pierce tanks without armor clicks

[serene inlet]

ic is super low wow

[dusky burrow]

I mean I'm supposing singleplayer here

[serene inlet]

that could work in mp

just with higher armor ticks

[dusky burrow]

If multiplayer it will look more like this

[serene inlet]

this with armtracs

would

do good

[dusky burrow]

As suggested

Yeah, this will be pretty good (although here I have sheep's enabled)

[serene inlet]

sheeps is pain

[quasi shoal]

brody

[trail zinc]

change AT to arty and remove whatever the tank is

[quasi shoal]

manpower

[serene inlet]

what

[quasi shoal]

most of those stats are so bad 😭

[serene inlet]

ur gonna have bigger industry problems than manpower ngl bro

[serene inlet]

which

[quasi shoal]

only ones that aren't are defense, hp, and org

[quasi shoal]

everything but def, hp, and org

[trail zinc]

is massmob template

[quasi shoal]

manpower is really the main problem late game tho

[serene inlet]

lmao what

[serene inlet]

no??

its meant for massmob

[quasi shoal]

yes??

[serene inlet]

the soft attack, supply use is great

these are literally meta infantry tanks

[dusky burrow]

Nah this one is fine but you should replace AT for flame tank since AA gives enough piercing against vanilla AI

[serene inlet]

this was MP

but yeah

[trim pike]

Ay new helper

[serene inlet]

replace at with flames

[dusky burrow]

Yeah in MP you probably do need the AT

[serene inlet]

u can click stacked 20width spam with it

[trail zinc]

well in all fairness you were talking about AI so I Thought singleplayer, and AT is not worth in SP

[serene inlet]

works in both

[trail zinc]

ai tanks are made of rusty steel lmao

[serene inlet]

i wonder if i should use the flames on it against a barb massmob

[quasi shoal]

245 soft attack is great?

[serene inlet]

yeah especially on barb u get 340 once u get guns 3

for infantry 340 soft attack is godly

[trail zinc]

ai soviet type divs would be like 15 -1 div, 15 tank bats and 1 truck bat

[serene inlet]

remember ur gonna push the whole front with it

[quasi shoal]

oh you just have bad guns that's why the stats are bad

[serene inlet]

well guns 2

guns 3 soft attack will obv be cracked

[maiden gull]

Can someone explain to me how I managed to guarantee a nation while at war with them

[serene inlet]

this massmob slop even works on naval invasions

terrain buffs are good

[trail zinc]

This is best template (not mine)

[dusky burrow]

Yeah it does

[trail zinc]

Joke btw

[dusky burrow]

35% bonus to naval invasions from pioneers + flame tanks

[last cave]

FINALLY

[serene inlet]

wouldnt use pioneers on it personally

[trail zinc]

bro 36 width is strong meta

[serene inlet]

i find rangers + assault engi to be enough

[dusky burrow]

Why not?

[serene inlet]

ughhh idk i feel like it would only be a sea lion thing

[quasi shoal]

will I win this 🤔
also ignore the divisions

[serene inlet]

the river crossings on barb arent that important

[dusky burrow]

I mean yeah it would

If you're not doing naval invasions indeed just stick with assault engineers

[serene inlet]

atleast not to the point where i would replace that instead of like another support company

[serene inlet]

stalin line in MP is really really hard to break tho

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, but you can change it whenever you need to naval invade, and then change it back afterwards

[serene inlet]

i've played against someone that put level 5 forts all over from kiev to latvia, + stronghold networks

it was just impossible to break even with like extraordinary cas

i think maybe if i had von bock on fortress buster it wouldve worked

[serene inlet]

true if i dont go rangers

[dusky burrow]

Did you build railway guns

[serene inlet]

nop

maybe it wouldve helped yeah

this + fortress buster

[sudden thistle]

hello guys

[dusky burrow]

That would have helped

[serene inlet]

and maybe if i put like flame tanks instead of AT

since it was a massmob build

massmob germany is underrated, i honestly don't bother making tanks since armtracs are banned

[sudden thistle]

its mass mob

what did u expect

[heavy vigil]

Massmob

Funni infantry

Battleplan

[serene inlet]

yes

very funi

[sudden thistle]

i havent ever used amtracs for my tanks

[dusky burrow]

Until you reach the fort wall

[heavy vigil]

Massmob germany is ok

Ussr has more manpower

[sudden thistle]

actually maybe like once since i was bored

[opal nymph]

What happens when 2 mass mob players fight each other

[heavy vigil]

Battleplan harder

[serene inlet]

armtracs are important for river crossings on barb

[sudden thistle]

dont fight in the river 🔥

[serene inlet]

paratroop behind the lines (if paratrooping was allowed)

[dusky burrow]

Germany now no longer have manpower 😭

[serene inlet]

germany manpower is kinda infinite

[heavy vigil]

Germany should have air supremacy if massmob

[heavy vigil]

Its not

[opal nymph]

What about the casualties

[serene inlet]

i feel like what would make a massmob germany beat a massmob soviet is CAS

[heavy vigil]

Its incredibly finite

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-gif-16418353

[serene inlet]

infinite to my eyes

[heavy vigil]

No

You dont beat ussr massmob

[serene inlet]

i deployed like 9 million once before barb

[heavy vigil]

Like you cant

They also do air, allies send them air

You lose

Lower manpower pool

[sudden thistle]

crazy match

[quasi shoal]

on what conscription tho

[serene inlet]

what if i beat the allies air

cuz

[heavy vigil]

Now ussr has more IC for air

[serene inlet]

i make like 6k fighters by barb

[heavy vigil]

You just donr win

6K fighters is like pathetic

[serene inlet]

i feel like it depends on the player

[heavy vigil]

Lmao

[last cave]

what should i do next?

[serene inlet]

not rly

[quasi shoal]

😭

[serene inlet]

its fine for barb

[heavy vigil]

Yes but with best play

You lose

[opal nymph]

Click the formable

[serene inlet]

6k fighters in 40 is very decent idk what u on

[heavy vigil]

Not for massmob?

[last cave]

i did

[heavy vigil]

Also not rlly for tanks

[quasi shoal]

my ai builds like double that half the time

[opal nymph]

I guess hold out against the Germans

[heavy vigil]

Youd want a lot more to win air war

[last cave]

ok

[serene inlet]

12k fighters in 38?

[heavy vigil]

Like 15-20K fighters could win air war

[serene inlet]

ok bro

[quasi shoal]

in 40
I meant half the time as in half the times I play germany in singleplayer

[last cave]

ill try also to get the achievment then

[serene inlet]

are ur fighters made of plastic

[heavy vigil]

No

[serene inlet]

the ic cost of my fighters is like 45

[heavy vigil]

Do collabs

45+????

[serene inlet]

how do u make 25K of those by 41 buddy

[opal nymph]

Its all mils

[quasi shoal]

ic?

[serene inlet]

im making big shit

[opal nymph]

There are only mils

[serene inlet]

read

[quasi shoal]

fym read

I don't know every acronym in this game

[serene inlet]

ic

the cost

[opal nymph]

Industrial cost/capacity

[quasi shoal]

that makes more sense

45+ is insane btw

[opal nymph]

Wait a minute

[heavy vigil]

Are you making supersonics or just trolling?

[quasi shoal]

I js realized it's 1945 and i'm still using '36 planes 💀

i'm winning tho so it doesn't matter

[remote quarry]

45 ic plane is 100% trolling

💀 but even then

6k is nothing

even a 45 ic plane

[serene inlet]

im just making big shit bro

[remote quarry]

like translate it to the correct fighter it's around 9k

[opal nymph]

Meta Player's Fallacy: Those who teach the meta fail to explain how the game or meta works for the player to understand

[quasi shoal]

now I know how ts happened

[heavy vigil]

It shoulf be around this cost

[remote quarry]

also depends on which nation

did you get 6k

[heavy vigil]

Sorry i dont have german double armor plate saved

[sudden thistle]

🔥

[heavy vigil]

Ger

1940

[sudden thistle]

my memory is horrible so i say "just use it trust me bro"

[quasi shoal]

nothing beats these fighters 😼

[serene inlet]

lmfaoooo

i used the wrong engine

i'm crying

thats why

[heavy vigil]

Jet??

Double??

[opal nymph]

You using double engines?

[heavy vigil]

How do you get to 45

[serene inlet]

2x engine III lmao

[opal nymph]

Ooof

[heavy vigil]

Brooother

[serene inlet]

instead

of

1x

[heavy vigil]

Tbf you can get that engine earlier

Like a lot earlier

But axis doesnt

[dusky burrow]

eah that makes your planes more expensive

[serene inlet]

my minors

dont rush tech

bro

[sudden thistle]

bad minors

[dusky burrow]

Like 50-70% more expensive I believe

[heavy vigil]

New zealand gets it in 70d and australia in 200

[opal nymph]

Remember kids, basically everything works in singleplayer

[heavy vigil]

2x e3

[remote quarry]

do you mean 40 or 41

[opal nymph]

Except my flying boat heavy fighters

They didn't do so well

[dusky burrow]

Both are 2x e3?

[serene inlet]

by 41 they have like

nothing

[remote quarry]

if it's 40 its understandable

[quasi shoal]

yay I get my first south american volkskommissarriat

[sudden thistle]

do yall believe in me

wait wrong chat

[quasi shoal]

although it's technically european

[serene inlet]

i do all the tech pretty much

[remote quarry]

huh?

so how much at barb

[opal nymph]

Is this EU5

[sudden thistle]

ck3

[serene inlet]

planes,

uhhhh

[remote quarry]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

[opal nymph]

Oh

[quasi shoal]

this is why you don't trust AI to do anything

[serene inlet]

well it depends

[remote quarry]

Soviet can probably get like 12k

[serene inlet]

no no

[heavy vigil]

Australia needs to tech medium frame 2

[serene inlet]

players bro

players

[remote quarry]

depends on how much you greed into air

[quasi shoal]

this is why you annex minors instead

[serene inlet]

idk how much i get honestly

[serene inlet]

nice occupation

[opal nymph]

Oh yeah, they cant rush 1940 fighters anymore

[serene inlet]

india

is the best technocracy in the game

51% tech buff

by 38

nah

37

rush guns 3 with this

licence it to everyone

boom

[dusky burrow]

Lmao

[remote quarry]

worse than burma actually

[sudden thistle]

tell them too

[remote quarry]

generic tree >> dlc focus tree

[dusky burrow]

also true but who is playing burma

[atomic grove]

they got fast research but no industry 😔

[serene inlet]

just put 30 mils into guns

2 mil on sup equipment

poop 250 massmob divs

[atomic grove]

no like

by the time u get atleast a decent industry

[sudden thistle]

update btw

[atomic grove]

its already 1939-1940

[serene inlet]

who needs industry as india

[sudden thistle]

decisive byzantine victory

[serene inlet]

i just make brainless meatwalls

[atomic grove]

me

[opal nymph]

The propaganda machine will make sure it is

[atomic grove]

i need more guns to pump out infantry and mountaineers

[sudden thistle]

AT?

[atomic grove]

all the time

[sudden thistle]

wait its japan nvm

mb

[serene inlet]

like if india has the industry for at

[sudden thistle]

i mean i always do it

[heavy vigil]

Germany gets 60% on support companies

[sudden thistle]

its helpful for africa

[serene inlet]

i can deploy like 4 million men whitout thinking much about it

[sudden thistle]

and thats all

[serene inlet]

as india

by

41

42

[opal nymph]

PDX making sure to kneecap every country they rework

[atomic grove]

but the problem is

[serene inlet]

d-day

[opal nymph]

Then fix it with op buffs

[atomic grove]

u can never defeat the allies in historical

sadly

[buoyant fractal]

how many chinas does there need to be

[serene inlet]

i took berlin

as

india

[sudden thistle]

i took berlin as brazil

and prague

[serene inlet]

impressive

[sudden thistle]

almost got to frankfurt

[serene inlet]

i got all of northern germany

[opal nymph]

Holy KDR

[serene inlet]

UK only came like

4 months after

i had 29% war participation

as india

[sudden thistle]

mp?

[serene inlet]

no joke

yeah

mp

[sudden thistle]

bro

[atomic grove]

is brazil's uk with portugal path better than just unifying all of south america mid/late game

[sudden thistle]

💔

[heavy vigil]

I killed your brazil

[sudden thistle]

nuh uh

japanese lies

[serene inlet]

i faked 3 ddays in france

and ddayed in hamburg

[sudden thistle]

but wtf was i supposed to do

[serene inlet]

while uk was afk

[sudden thistle]

u took out india then all of africa

uk fumble fr

[heavy vigil]

Idk i didnt even think youd have units at home

[sudden thistle]

i just had force deployed divs

[heavy vigil]

You actually killed more of my divs than the rest of the campaign combined i think cuz encircled

But then last stand button

[sudden thistle]

last stand always work when im fighting it

but when I use it they die

with sri lanka

[heavy vigil]

air

You deorg enemy

Or strenght delete

[sudden thistle]

nuh uh

ur cheating

!!!

raptor india is goated

[heavy vigil]

Well he wouldve lost anyway

India needs air

[serene inlet]

this is the meta

[inner ocean]

i am honestly so drunk idk if i can play this game lol

i live above a bar so i went downstairs for a bit

[buoyant fractal]

is that actually good tho

[sudden thistle]

no

[serene inlet]

its what you use to click nepalese civil war divisions in 46

[buoyant fractal]

ive had pretty good games with these as germany

[serene inlet]

what am i looking at bro

[near schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

[buoyant fractal]

looking at peak

[serene inlet]

mkay..

[inner ocean]

Iraq 1923

[buoyant fractal]

pummeled thru france in like 2 weeks not even

[inner ocean]

my government

[serene inlet]

4 width cavalry could do that

[heavy vigil]

I was trying to find a template but cant find it

[dusky burrow]

what tanks are those 😭

where are your infantry support

[heavy vigil]

Damn

[dusky burrow]

vicky 3 tmeplate be like

[buoyant fractal]

light, medium, modern

[dusky burrow]

or what i'm told is one

[buoyant fractal]

didnt need any

[dusky burrow]

the division template is pretty bad

[buoyant fractal]

worked damn good for me so idk

[tepid crown]

Based is what they are

[buoyant fractal]

fr

[split bane]

Ah yes, the American Prometheus

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352

[quasi shoal]

isn't the main point of light tanks supposed to be speed
and having slower tanks takes that away

[tepid crown]

Yes 😎

[dusky burrow]

modern tanks are quite fast, like 10kmh fast sometimes

[buoyant fractal]

i guess, but they do the job better from my experience

[heavy vigil]

Slow

[quasi shoal]

but mediums aren't that fast

[atomic grove]

are modern tanks better than advanced mediums?

[marsh ravine]

This is the best example of how the ai is horrendous thank you

[tepid crown]

Basic tanks are the best

[dusky burrow]

The answer here is probably not however

[atomic grove]

i havent tried moderns in a very long time

[heavy vigil]

German ai is actually quite good

[atomic grove]

if i want speed then yeah

[dusky burrow]

You should probably do heavies late game I think

[heavy vigil]

Best designs of any ai, best templates, dispersed which helps ai

[marsh ravine]

Did I give you the permission to speak

[last cave]

guys, if u play lux, should u make tanks after making benelux?

[tepid crown]

What? No like overall they’re the best

[heavy vigil]

Sorry...

[atomic grove]

are u talking about light tanks?

[tepid crown]

Speed doesn’t really matter

[buoyant fractal]

modern and medium, not yet 14 but its fast enough for me

[tepid crown]

Medium basic tanks

[atomic grove]

oh

[dusky burrow]

yeah you can get like 20+ kmh for armored cars

[marsh ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/snap-thats-what-i-thought-gif-14484650985136218412

[dusky burrow]

vroooom

[atomic grove]

i mean yeah, early game, but like i honestly feel like u should get better tanks past basic in like 1941-1942

[marsh ravine]

Just no

They dont help

You lose efficiency

[tepid crown]

And waste your production for tanks that have almost exactly the same stats?

[marsh ravine]

For 0 reason

[atomic grove]

by the time its 1941-1942, u likely would have the industry to put like 50+ mils on tank production

[marsh ravine]

If you do it it is either making a new line for armour meme with heavy 3(so 1 tank battalion out of whole division) or larp

[marsh ravine]

Thats like nothing😭

Stop kneecapping yourself

[atomic grove]

but thats if u are playing a country that CAN get an industry that strong in those years

[tepid crown]

And what your talking about is the difference between having 20 tank divisions compared to 70

[atomic grove]

i meant anything above 50

[heavy vigil]

You can get 100+ in 1939/40 what

Only 50

[atomic grove]

yeah

[heavy vigil]

Thats crazy

[heavy vigil]

Just on tank alone i mean

[marsh ravine]

Well unless you are larping theres just 0 reason to swap

Tell me what buffs u get

Right now

What buffs do you get

[heavy vigil]

Your total mil count as germany should be 200-300+ atp

[marsh ravine]

I want the numbers

[quasi shoal]

why did finland (my ally) just randomly take st petersburg???

[heavy vigil]

Same for ussr

[atomic grove]

i know

[tepid crown]

Pretty sure my Germany has around 250-300 mils by 1941 at least if not more

[heavy vigil]

Yeah

[quasi shoal]

is this enough 🧐

[atomic grove]

i just assume that you will produce planes

[marsh ravine]

On my bloat mod I grt 270 cos I have to build rubber for autarky

[quasi shoal]

and why could I insta take it back

[marsh ravine]

?? How is that related

We are talking about upgrading tank chassis

Whu would you do that

[atomic grove]

because you have a lot of mils and you need to produce more stuff alongside tanks?

[tepid crown]

I usually do test builds in hmm

[marsh ravine]

Fair

[heavy vigil]

100 on tanks 100 on air 50 on inf stuff

Or 75 on inf stuff

Its not even that hard to budget

[quasi shoal]

is it fine if I have a 300/300/300 split 🤔

[marsh ravine]

Go 250/275 on tank like a sigma

[heavy vigil]

Your mils are low because no collabs/harsh quotas

[marsh ravine]

Bro go do the 100/100/100 japan build

[tepid crown]

Germany usually has at least 150 on tanks no?

[quasi shoal]

i am NOT playing japan

[marsh ravine]

In no air gamble yes

[quasi shoal]

at least not before the dlc

[heavy vigil]

Yeah because you dont make inf or much air

In sp you need inf

[marsh ravine]

It looks unfun after elc😭

[heavy vigil]

So im accounting for that

[tepid crown]

Or do you….

[marsh ravine]

Japan is one of my favourite nations and I bet its gonna be ruined

[heavy vigil]

You dont but its QoL

[quasi shoal]

japan is unfun in general ✌️

[tepid crown]

Most likely

[dusky burrow]

Oof

There goes the world

[heavy vigil]

I didnt finish this run but i was abiding by versailles @tepid crown

10 infantry divs

[dusky burrow]

how are you dealing with the soviets rip

[atomic grove]

are you trying to wc with just 10 divs

[marsh ravine]

All in on gun0

[tepid crown]

Lmao

[buoyant fractal]

what mod gives this

[heavy vigil]

100K manpower deployed max

No military airplanes

No tanks

[heavy vigil]

Dlc

AAT

[marsh ravine]

Dlc?

[buoyant fractal]

yeah thats what i meant

[marsh ravine]

Aat

[buoyant fractal]

yeah casey said that

[quasi shoal]

almost

I js need to either wait for the button to puppet colombia

or to invade them myself

[marsh ravine]

🤯

[heavy vigil]

Idk i was too lazy to figure that out

Tho the ai sent me like 50 divs

When i asked

But i gave them back because im nice

[buoyant fractal]

yeah maybe later

[heavy vigil]

Best dlc IMO

[buoyant fractal]

what does it do

[tepid crown]

NSB was in another level compared to all the others

[heavy vigil]

MIOs, special forces doctrine, arms market

[buoyant fractal]

gotcha

[quasi shoal]

hell yeah

[heavy vigil]

I just prefer AAT if i have to choose to play with 1 dlc

[buoyant fractal]

ill prolly get it in a couple weeks

[quasi shoal]

I js bought it for the arms market, but sweden is lowk the 2nd funnest nation to play

hungary is the 1st imo

[teal linden]

can you still get señor hitler as fascist argentina?

[marsh ravine]

Cringe cringe cringe

[heavy vigil]

Oh jon

I requested a counting channel but have not been replied to yet

[marsh ravine]

Didn't ask you to speak

[heavy vigil]

Because id need to count to like

3-4 million ish

On this server

[tepid crown]

I was playing mp well before NSB came out, and when it did, it did wonders for mp community, that’s around the time all these tournaments started popping up too

[marsh ravine]

There's gonna be a bigger idiot than me😭

[marsh ravine]

Why

[buoyant fractal]

speaking of which i got gotterdammerung, la resistance, and bba, but unfortunately the game is lwk getting boring and idk what country and path to do

[quasi shoal]

what decides when communist germany can puppet countries?

[heavy vigil]

My arch nemesis

[marsh ravine]

😂

[quasi shoal]

I haven't played la resistance, but most of hungary's paths are pretty fun

[eternal aspen]

can i borrow the expertise of someone who knows the shape of portugal better than I do?

[buoyant fractal]

i literally just got it for anarchist spain

thats it

[marsh ravine]

Play mp!

[quasi shoal]

wait am I dumb

[marsh ravine]

Why

[quasi shoal]

yes I am

[heavy vigil]

I have to beat that guy...

[quasi shoal]

I thought la resistance was the south america dlc 😭

[tepid crown]

A dying breed ngl

[quasi shoal]

I got it for the spy network, and it was worth it

[eternal aspen]

tryna make a map and i need the shape of portugal for the borders of spain/portugal

[marsh ravine]

Stop breeding people to play mp😭 😭

[quasi shoal]

almost everyone in mp are horrible people tho

[marsh ravine]

I can help maybe? Idk how i would tho

[buoyant fractal]

my wifi aint great so everytime i requested to join a game id be denied

[sudden thistle]

thats why u find good people

???

[buoyant fractal]

oh yeah that too

im still learning it

[tepid crown]

Gotta get someone playing nowadays

[quasi shoal]

I don't have friends tho

[marsh ravine]

Bomb them

[sudden thistle]

get them

[eternal aspen]

js need help with actually outlining the country, i can dm you if you would like that way we can talk about it better

[marsh ravine]

If they annoy you just ruin their game

[marsh ravine]

Sure?

[quasi shoal]

my only friends either don't own the game or are so bad at the game it's not fun to play with them

[marsh ravine]

Teach themM

*?

[sudden thistle]

Teach them it

[heavy vigil]

i tried and ended up playing with you 💔

[quasi shoal]

but i'm shit at the game too

I mean they know stuff, they're just really bad

[marsh ravine]

R they worse than tou?

[quasi shoal]

and I don't know what they know and what they don't

[quasi shoal]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

💔

[marsh ravine]

If they are worse than you teach them what you knkw

Make it equal

[sudden thistle]

Ur bad at the game

Learn it

[marsh ravine]

Just teach everything you know

[quasi shoal]

i'm bad at teaching too

[quasi shoal]

that would take wayyy too long

I'd have to teach all of the dlc

and they still know quite a bit

they're just bad

[marsh ravine]

Doesn't matter if u r all horrendous cos u r all equally debuffed💀

[tepid crown]

True, why I should join them

[marsh ravine]

Cos atm its coughing baby vs coughing toddler

[sudden thistle]

Bro this ck3 game is hard

[marsh ravine]

Bro when

[sudden thistle]

I can’t research CAs

[sudden thistle]

Wha

[marsh ravine]

Did I ask 💀 💀 💀

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-hahaha-not-funny-lame-i-dont-care-gif-4917610

[marsh ravine]

Thanks!

Ik it is

[quasi shoal]

close air support ⁉️

[tepid crown]

Heavy cruisers

[quasi shoal]

why is it so hard for the chinese to build railways

jesus christ

I have all of this stuff

except sp artillery but 🤫

[tepid crown]

Speaking of mp, how familiar are you with battleplan sov