hoi4-general

[eternal palm]

Bro hating on the dead

[marsh ravine]

NO

[tepid crown]

That’s not very #1 of you

[marsh ravine]

Syabu you ain't even #10

[valid solar]

@young karma

[tepid crown]

10,000 maybe 😎

[marsh ravine]

10000 lb?

[cobalt imp]

Why would yo want an olperative to die

[eternal palm]

Like your mom?

[cobalt imp]

Why not rescue

[marsh ravine]

Nah too little🔥

[eternal palm]

Agents are replacable

Time is not

[marsh ravine]

So they dont get captured

U get a new one quicker

[tepid crown]

10,000 N

[cobalt imp]

Does the enemy get a buff if they catch a spy like extra intel or anything

[eternal palm]

10.000 kg?

[marsh ravine]

*10000 tonne

[eternal palm]

DAMN

Bros mom is a facking container ship 💀

[eternal palm]

Yes

[marsh ravine]

Nah thats brodude

My mother is earth🔥

[eternal palm]

🗣️

Talk that talk

[tepid crown]

#1 in yapping

[valid solar]

@jaunty tartan

[marsh ravine]

#1 In being the best💅

[tepid crown]

Stop pinging people

[valid solar]

No

[tepid crown]

Bro on a ban speedrun. Lmao

[marsh ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[sonic sand]

quack

[marsh ravine]

Fack you

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-duck-cute-duck-duck-duck-duck-dancing-duck-duck-dance-gif-5339038368488079993

[unique garnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1073325943214579722/1178733416015990884/photo_2023-11-23_22-14-59.gif

[sonic sand]

someones angy today

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-coal-mods-christmas-lowtiergod-ltg-gif-12645377823045477295

[hardy phoenix]

@cerulean stag

Nothing

[sonic sand]

i will Christmas post always

[hardy phoenix]

Add this mod to hoi4:

[sonic sand]

it wont listen to you!

[hardy phoenix]

This one

[sonic sand]

its basically only there to stop like

[hardy phoenix]

A new mod

In hoi4

[sonic sand]

no

#modding

[tepid crown]

Probably a virus link

[sonic sand]

theres an entire ass channel dedicated to mods

[sonic sand]

that too

also his profile pic is a qanon symbol :3

i thinksies

@mild plaza

a second virus link has hit the hoi4 discord

[tepid crown]

He just joined today. Guaranteed it’s a virus or something

[sonic sand]

someone do a discord moderation ping please

not me because if im wrong i don't want to be banned

[marsh ravine]

Lmao

[sonic sand]

oh whatever!

[marsh ravine]

They changed role name

There 2 mod

[sonic sand]

<@&846894118219022336> virus virus virus

[marsh ravine]

Or at least when I tried to

Oh its cos I put moderator not moderation

[sonic sand]

and in the #modding channel

[hardy phoenix]

<@&846894118219022336>

It's a virus

Help me!

[eternal aspen]

Bro what?

[sonic sand]

hes fighting against a hacker and hes joined the hoi4 server to combat it obviously

[eternal aspen]

No, he's the hacker

[sonic sand]

yes

thats called irony

[eternal aspen]

Thats not irony

[sonic sand]

oh my god

the mod team is doing nothing\

[eternal aspen]

Irony is if I posted my mod and it was a virus

[sonic sand]

thats hypocrisy

[eternal aspen]

Hypocracy is if I said "this isnt a virus, as God as my witness" and I upload a virus

What grade are you in by chance?

[tepid crown]

Junior

[sonic sand]

having autism is fun

[eternal aspen]

Ah, my bad good sir I didny mean to be rude (I too have the itching for a good tism moment)

[sonic sand]

nah you're fine

i just

[trim pike]

[sonic sand]

virus

virus

[tepid crown]

Ayyy

[trim pike]

Ok let me check

[marsh ravine]

Do u like ducks

[eternal aspen]

Tbf, why would someone tell us to play a mod that has no description and isnt uploaded properly

[sonic sand]

im getting banned if this is wrong!

[sonic sand]

quack

[marsh ravine]

Yes!

[tepid crown]

Yes

[valid solar]

I accidentally blocked them so I pinged them so I could open the profile and dm them

[marsh ravine]

Fack you

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/quack-duck-gif-20246771

[sonic sand]

so peak

[eternal aspen]

Nah probably not, maybe js a warning to be more careful with accusations like thay

[sonic sand]

its a non descript file

[eternal aspen]

I would reccomend muting the possible hacker tho

[eternal aspen]

It isnt even a .zip, bro has no idea how to hack and make it feel real

[sonic sand]

yea

he also just joined today

[eternal aspen]

My hoi4 mod is like, 3gb and its just removing content from hoi4 currently

His mod is what? 20mb?

[sonic sand]

and first thing he did was ping the official hoi4 user.

[eternal aspen]

Only way thats possible is no GFX just border changes, and that wouldnt be fun at all

[night bison]

I finally made Ethiopia capitulate!

[sonic sand]

which would be like the owner usually

[sonic sand]

yes

[night bison]

Aw man did I miss something funny?

[sonic sand]

dumbass came in here posted an obvious virus

[eternal aspen]

oh, no that's the user that posts updates usually

[sonic sand]

and mocked at us when we called it out

[eternal aspen]

or at least, in the hoi4 appeal server

[sonic sand]

if i had to take a crack at who owns the server i would prob like

[eternal aspen]

the owner acc is hidden on community servers

[sonic sand]

ping the guy with the same name and low privileges

[sonic sand]

yeah thats the thing

[night bison]

Heh that’s hilarious

[eternal aspen]

so it's prolly them, bu it could be Chak (love the lad) or ownership was transferred to the PDX Bot if i had to guess

[sonic sand]

the owner doesn't need to have the crown but usually they have less perms than everyone else because they don't need them besides for identification

[eternal aspen]

he posted an 8.1MB file saying it's a mod

[sonic sand]

and posted a photo of the map

and

[night bison]

On the plus side I finally got Ethiopia to capitulate to me for the first time!

[sonic sand]

it looks horrible

like genuinely just unfun to play

[sudden thistle]

Seems reasonable enough ngl

[eternal aspen]

all i'm saying, is 2.9GB in my mod itself and i can't even launch the mod

[eternal aspen]

for a border overhaul

[sudden thistle]

Can u ask him to post it again

[eternal aspen]

so it's gotta be like, no real content just new borders

[sonic sand]

this is the map

[eternal aspen]

bc a focus tree alone for the USSR abomination would be like, a gig on its own

without the GFX for any unique icons

[sudden thistle]

💀

[night bison]

They made HOI into a 2001 game

[sonic sand]

"how many mega states do you want for your hoi4 mod?"

[tepid crown]

Anything?

[sonic sand]

"yes"

[sudden thistle]

Why is Japan in 2 pieces

[marsh ravine]

I want only microstates

[sudden thistle]

And why does it have part of Siberia

[trim pike]

Interesting

[eternal aspen]

i want every province to be a state

[marsh ravine]

"Nuked" "Not-Nuked"?

[sonic sand]

britain is exploded too

[night bison]

Wait yeah Japan is in two colours 😂

[sudden thistle]

I know

[eternal aspen]

and i insta cap if i lose a single one

[sudden thistle]

Bro the UK and Germany got demolished

[marsh ravine]

Britain just looks like they hate england

[sonic sand]

I love how hungary has its hungarian borders

[marsh ravine]

Big Scotland big wales

[tepid crown]

Is it an actual mod?

[night bison]

And what’s going on with the UK

[marsh ravine]

Big cornwall

[sudden thistle]

What happened in Romania

[sonic sand]

meaning greater Hungary for the most part

[sonic sand]

got stolen

[eternal aspen]

it's the alt-hist weltpolitik england releaseables

[sudden thistle]

Why is the trans place its own country

I can’t spell it

Transiviyla

[sonic sand]

Transylvania

[sudden thistle]

Transivania

[marsh ravine]

Transylvania or Transamur

[eternal aspen]

Transnistria or Transylvania

[marsh ravine]

Dumbass

[sudden thistle]

The vampire one

[marsh ravine]

Not you sorru

[sudden thistle]

That one

[marsh ravine]

Dumbass

[night bison]

I want to suck your blood

[sudden thistle]

Dumbass

[sonic sand]

it is not Transnistria you dumbass

[eternal aspen]

bro why does Transylvania look like Rumania but zmaller

[marsh ravine]

Dumbass^3

[marsh ravine]

Truke

[eternal aspen]

i have issues looking at minor colour details like that

[sudden thistle]

Why is sinai its own country

[eternal aspen]

i gotta zoom in HARD

[eternal aspen]

one other question...

[sonic sand]

Transnistria is in moldova

[sudden thistle]

Does anyone have his user I wanna ask him what drugs he was using

[sonic sand]

which was romanian

[eternal aspen]

why does france own Catalunya

[eternal aspen]

russian*

romania got it after ww1

[sonic sand]

i love how no one noticed austria got split in half by hungary and italy

[eternal aspen]

and when stalin demanded it back, it js stayed russian until the fall in the 90's

[eternal aspen]

well there's so much there

can we talk about Mexico?

why is it in half

[sonic sand]

also spain united iberia so thats cool

[eternal aspen]

and why do they look the EXACT SAME

[marsh ravine]

"Half" Hungarian Vienna

[sudden thistle]

It’s so much

[eternal aspen]

but lost their mountains in the North-East

[sonic sand]

except it didn't because it got part of it stolen by france

which has no reason to want those lands IN THE FIRST PLACE

[eternal aspen]

what's going on here

[sonic sand]

also stralia united all the stralian nations

[eternal aspen]

nah that's just the continent of Australia+oceania (and SEA just for good measure)

i wanna know the lore to this map ngl

[trim pike]

Not so straightforward

[sonic sand]

why is every island besides sri Lanka independent

[eternal aspen]

like clearly russia won, but what government is it? are they isolationist

[trim pike]

Need to analyse it

Its not a normal generic malware if it is

[eternal aspen]

sri lanka owns like, half of india proper

[sonic sand]

i think i know what it is

[night bison]

I love how the guy tried to infect people with a virus and now we’re just picking apart his map

[eternal aspen]

and why does india own Bangladesh but not Pakistan? where is my beautiful RAJ

[marsh ravine]

*china

[eternal aspen]

ikr, it's so sad but i'm actually ROFL rn

[sonic sand]

its kaiserreich but germany lost hard to france in the 2nd war and china took over the rest of russia

[marsh ravine]

Wait is it just a smaller mongol empire?

[eternal aspen]

so what year is this? and when did china unify

[sonic sand]

thats my guess at least

[marsh ravine]

Well its all of china, central Asia, siberia

[eternal aspen]

because in KR/X russia has more of a chance to unify china under their banner than china could

[marsh ravine]

I think its alot more likely to be china

Tnan russia

[eternal aspen]

TNO russia ahh map

[marsh ravine]

Could be xinjiang? Sinkiang? Idk how u spell it

Cos they can form china and central Asia

[eternal aspen]

Sinkiang according to hoi4 currently

[eternal aspen]

there's a mod that lets them form the ottomans

so it's possible

[night bison]

Pulling away from our destruction of the map. I’m playing Italy, just made Ethiopia capitulate what do I focus on doing next?

[eternal aspen]

Ngl who's excited for the new China content? Bc I am

[marsh ravine]

Kill yemen

Or i kill your italy

[night bison]

Does Italy have a justification for war with Yemen?

[marsh ravine]

Do it manually.

[night bison]

0.0

[sonic sand]

its kaiserreich but Austria collapsed and germany didn't partake in the partition leading to the eventual 2nd world war with ultanationalist france, russia and british empire vs germany, japan and mexico

[marsh ravine]

Or i will find your hoi4

[night bison]

How do I do that

[marsh ravine]

And burn it

[marsh ravine]

Diplomatic screen

Justify wargoal

[primal timber]

how 'bout i shoot you in the face

[eternal aspen]

Focus on getting dalmatia from yugo, then prepare for ww2 by going down your army and Navy tree, make sure to get some ships out of the med before ww2 as eell

[sonic sand]

i think thats the best explanation of the map

[eternal aspen]

Air you can do after getting thr basis of the land and naval done, since you won't be at war until 1940 if you go historical

[sonic sand]

because

those things look like

the

things you can do

after beating russia in the great war

[eternal aspen]

It probably isnt KR/X at all

[sonic sand]

making a united baltic dutchy

ukraine

belarus

poland

stuff like that

and then

[eternal aspen]

You mean the brest-litovsk treaty?

[sonic sand]

finland goes ultranationalist and monarchist

[sonic sand]

ye

and that upholds

because

they do something and win the first world war

or something

[eternal aspen]

That happened IRL, it didnt last because the red army saw how weak Germany was redeploying to the west like its 2 for 1 bratwurst

[sonic sand]

yes

but in kr it does hold

[fallen vigil]

non historical is so goofy

[eternal aspen]

But this is prolly js an alt-hist map to make people wanna download the mod and such

[sonic sand]

which is why i think its Kr

or something like it

[eternal aspen]

not really, germany would need to win the eastern front for russia to look like that

and lose horribly on the east

but anyways

i should rq run this "mod" on a virtual machine

[sonic sand]

and then germany teams up with spain, mexico, the swedes, brits and japanese

against

france

and italy

and finland

oh and the us

(also australia switches sides)

[eternal aspen]

makes the most sense that Japan helped china beat russia, got that peninsula, and then fractured into civil war

[sonic sand]

true

yeah

[eternal aspen]

or even just the Mongols

since ik they can do all that in KX

[sonic sand]

im just reposting here because idonwannascroll so far up

[eternal aspen]

real

i shlould work on my mod a lil bit

but this is more fun

[sonic sand]

i think the UK loses meaning the raj gets shit taken from them by the chinese

and then

the french win

so they obliterate germany

and

[eternal aspen]

Brazil owns their empirical lands, wehile the andes only goes up to Peru-Bolivian border

[sonic sand]

take some of spain

[eternal aspen]

this is def just cultures or smth

[sonic sand]

im not going to talk about the 3 state south america

[eternal aspen]

because why would china/russia own ALL of what some people would class "asian asia"

[sonic sand]

lmao

its just a culture map of the world

[eternal aspen]

exactly

that's why USA owns canada, UK is so fractures

[warped flint]

I CAN HIT IT TODAY

[eternal aspen]

arabia is unified

[primal timber]

1 (one) fort in prussia

[sonic sand]

crazy work putting the americans and canadians together

[eternal aspen]

yea

we hate eachother rn more than ever

[sonic sand]

you are merican?

[eternal aspen]

canada

[sonic sand]

pog!

you watched the jays game last night?

[eternal aspen]

nah

not huge on sports

[sonic sand]

dudeeeeeeeeeeee

[eternal aspen]

plus last night i was modding

[sonic sand]

watch the next one

its been peak fiction

plus like

most of canada is watching it

according to statistics

[eternal aspen]

yea

because last time we were in the world series was like, a decade ago

[eternal aspen]

most of our population hasn't seen a canadian team go to world series yet

[sonic sand]

oh yeah

myself included

I have been a jays fan my entire life

i couldn't be more happy to see them in the world series

[tepid crown]

I’m a Reds fan

[eternal aspen]

i js don't generally watch sports

[meager valley]

HOI4 hoodie

[eternal aspen]

last time i went to a jays game was the 2024 spring game against boston

[sonic sand]

@eternal aspen Jeter and A-rod are on the fox pannel for after the games

so

i get to watch them compliment the jays

every game

and its amazing

[eternal aspen]

nice

[sonic sand]

and ortiz is also on that pannel

full of superstars

and our starting pitcher in tray yesavege broke like 4 records last night

hes 22

he has 8 major league starts

total

and hes pitching game 5 of the world series

and got 12 strikeouts against a 1.7b dollar roster

while being paid 52k a year and just graduating from uni

anyways

[sudden thistle]

And plushies

Keychain too?

The one on the right is probably a Japanese soldier or samurai

[meager valley]

Yes

[pearl mountain]

Hi Joe

[toxic sapphire]

I just got a message as serbia saying the uk is garuanteeing my independence

[eternal aspen]

left one is gonna be Shek or Mao, or maybe js platapus in 2UF uniform, who knows until it drops (if i have the money i am copping the hoodie tho)

[toxic sapphire]

now france too

[fading elk]

So one year into my invasion of the ussr as Japan

[toxic sapphire]

rate on a scale 1-10 how cooked i am

[eternal aspen]

it's all fn and games, until you play a country that invades nations

[fading elk]

I did it along with Barb

[pearl mountain]

Hi Nole

[fading elk]

We have almsot reached the Caspian Sea

[eternal aspen]

-1000, you're basically protected forever

[toxic sapphire]

im serbia bro

[sonic sand]

imperial japanese flag!

[eternal aspen]

the UK will protect you with 2 divisions and france sucks balls, but they will still protect you

[sonic sand]

perfect for your plane keys

[toxic sapphire]

what can france do other than surrender

[eternal aspen]

well, have you ever heard of Napoleon Bonapart?

[sonic sand]

not surrender!

[meager valley]

Hi Alex

[toxic sapphire]

mission : not surrender (you're france{impossible})

[sonic sand]

napoleon

[toxic sapphire]

watch germany break trough the maginot line in 2 seconds

[sudden thistle]

So true

[sonic sand]

me an intellectual knowing the french were expecting the germans to go around

[toxic sapphire]

fix ur name discor

[pearl mountain]

How are you Joe

[sudden thistle]

I can’t

It gets blocked by automod

[toxic sapphire]

mission : don't stack all troops on the maginot line as france (impsosible)

[sonic sand]

and they basically just got their entire war plan ruined by the Belgians

[eternal aspen]

but they didn't expect pz2, pz3, and some pz4 to go through the Aredennes

[sonic sand]

which was to counter invade belgium

[sonic sand]

yes

[meager valley]

I am good Alex wbu 😂

[toxic sapphire]

I have 5 research slots as serbia

[pearl mountain]

I am okay

How was your day?

[sonic sand]

trees and tanks don't usually mix...

which yknow makes sense

[eternal aspen]

does anyone have the copypasta for the dlc names being made into a fire quote or wtvr?

[sudden thistle]

Speaking of trees

[sonic sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329135672308797451/1359966889945731152/speechmemified_20250209_141135.webp.gif

[sudden thistle]

During the battle in hurtegen forest or whatever

Didn’t the pine cones like explode or something

I know the trees did something with explosions

[eternal aspen]

next hoi4 dlc:
Haiti focus tree with more detail than WuW gave germany, or the belgian congo
train designer
communist germany content
30 USD price tag

[meager valley]

It’s just starting! Morning here in the USA. But already had a job interview today so that’s fun. Wbu

[eternal aspen]

love how little info this gives pepo

bc it's rn 11:30 in NYC, meaning you live anywhere from here to the west of here

which BTW, covers all continential USA

[craggy trail]

[sonic sand]

hi

[sudden thistle]

He lives in the US base in Okinawa

Trust

[craggy trail]

Hello Hello!

[eternal aspen]

i think the only US land to still be in the night, is American Samoa, and that isn't even american soil that's a US Autonomous Territory

[meager valley]

It is 11:23 am here in New Hampshire. Want my address too? 😭

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/countless-coloratura-coloratura-mlp-my-little-pony-mlp-wave-gif-1702021189915528781

[sonic sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[eternal aspen]

nah, didn't need the state lmao

[primal timber]

not the parks

[meager valley]

Sarcasm on fun

[meager valley]

Hold up my blood type is…

[sonic sand]

A-

[eternal aspen]

my name is Walter Hartwell White ahh

[eternal aspen]

we got more blood types now gng

[meager valley]

ERRR

[sudden thistle]

My blood type is Z-

[delicate lance]

Here hoi4 players some tips and tricks .

[sudden thistle]

Anyone else have that one

[meager valley]

420 arroyo lane

[meager valley]

Bruh come on 😭

[eternal aspen]

what? is that joke still running?

[toxic sapphire]

could this defend germany?

[sudden thistle]

Hungary and Romania will join axis btw

Same with Bulgaria

And Italy

[meager valley]

Yes, don’t even need divisions on it. Germans will avoid it

[toxic sapphire]

Romania is garuanteeing independence

also if u wonder why I'm avoiding 1 tile

[sudden thistle]

Romania will join axis before Germany declares

[toxic sapphire]

last game they didn't

[eternal aspen]

falling back there is good because it reduces the CW they have on that tile, but they gain it in 2 spots

[craggy trail]

You would also be attacked on 4-5 tiles

[meager valley]

Right plushie is Koumintang with German helmet. Left is communist Chinese soldier.

Hoodie is the Taiwan flag

Bc Taiwan numba one

🇹🇼

[sudden thistle]

Liberia numba one

🇱🇷

[eternal aspen]

hold on i can get you a good defensive line

[meager valley]

You don’t even own a library card

[toxic sapphire]

seriously should I fortify more or

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[toxic sapphire]

im new to hoi4

only like 25hrs

[eternal aspen]

you should hold on a river

[meager valley]

It’s a bad joke chill

[sudden thistle]

I had one I think

[toxic sapphire]

where do I find those

[eternal aspen]

like instead of holding the front at romania/hungary, fall back to the Danube river

[meager valley]

Who is the keychain?

Wonton emperor or Puyi?

[craggy trail]

You probably should in the inevitable case that you go to war for the allies against the axis

[eternal aspen]

they're pretty noticable on the map, also press win+shift+S to get a better screenshot

[sudden thistle]

I vote on Santaclaus

[royal bison]

I didn't really read the dev diaries, is Machouko getting updated?

[toxic sapphire]

Samsung

[meager valley]

Definitely Xuantung emperor or however it’s spelled

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[meager valley]

Better known as wonton emperor

[meager valley]

HOWDY MARK

[cedar lance]

wassup joe p

[eternal palm]

They're. On. The. Map.

[craggy trail]

Hello hello!

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[meager valley]

Nothing Mark Omrm

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[meager valley]

Watching the HOI4 stream

[toxic sapphire]

unnoticeable when you're a dismembered yugoslavia and have 10 countries blocking ur view

[meager valley]

Had a busted ah interview happen during the HOI4 stream so had to miss 🥴

[eternal palm]

Get better glasses?

[sudden thistle]

Blind

[meager valley]

Guys, I mainly get protein through ground beef and eggs. What are other OP sources of protein

[eternal palm]

Chickens pretty good for calories

[toxic sapphire]

any rivers here then? circle them btw

[eternal palm]

But if u eat meat, protein sources don't matter much

[sudden thistle]

||hamster/s||

[cedar lance]

im gonna buy the new dlc expansion when it comes out in 3 weeks

[toxic sapphire]

boiled or oven cooked?

[meager valley]

Ground or on a stick kebab style

[toxic sapphire]

or smoked

[eternal palm]

💀

[sudden thistle]

Kebab ofc

[eternal palm]

Pls don't boil ur chicken bruh

[eternal palm]

Ground obv

[meager valley]

Boil em feathers on guts in

[sudden thistle]

I have never easten boiled chicken

[eternal palm]

😭

[meager valley]

Gotta min max protein

[sudden thistle]

No wait I did boil them

Then cooked them

[eternal palm]

Whey isolate is technically the best

[craggy trail]

I built my own maginot

But this was sort of before Gotterdamerung

[meager valley]

I just do 93% lean ground beef, eggs and pinto beans for most of my protein

Boiled chicken is a crime though

Literally loses nutrients too

[eternal palm]

I mean, not really, you just boil out any texture or taste

The way you prepare your food usually doesn't have an impact on its nutrients lol

[eternal palm]

Not a fan of protein powder?

[elfin saffron]

Im new here but what a based comment to read for my first introduction

[meager valley]

Actually diff cooking techniques can have different levels of nutrients just based off what cooks off, melts off etc

[meager valley]

HOI4 tutorials 😮‍💨

[meager valley]

I like it just kinda wrecks my stomach

[elfin saffron]

90% of my diet is baked chicken, eggs, 93% lean beef, greek yogurt, black beans and veggies

And whey protein

[craggy trail]

[toxic sapphire]

I personally eat polar bear meat 91kg a second

[meager valley]

I used to do black beans but they made me gassy so went to pinto and it’s much better for that

[elfin saffron]

Yeah i was gassy for the first 6 weeks but I think my microbiome got use to them

[eternal aspen]

imagine? i just have such a sleeper it's insane

[elfin saffron]

Definitely one hell of a 6 weeks tho

[meager valley]

Pinto has like the same nutrients minus the gas

[toxic sapphire]

why did yall say romania was joining axis

[eternal aspen]

because

they do?

[toxic sapphire]

its litteraly german reich now

annexed

[eternal aspen]

huh? they got annexed?

[toxic sapphire]

yes

[eternal aspen]

oh, because you went alt-hist, the AI did too

[elfin saffron]

Romania was kinda forced into axis but not at the same time

[eternal aspen]

if you go alt-historically, the AI will follow suit

[toxic sapphire]

but then

why is Bulgaria annexed too?

[eternal aspen]

did germany declare war?

[toxic sapphire]

oh nvm they released it as a puppet

[toxic sapphire]

pretty sure yeah

[eternal aspen]

German Romania and German Hungary?

[eternal aspen]

realist shit out there

[toxic sapphire]

no just german Bulgaria

[eternal aspen]

ah, yea that's weird

[elfin saffron]

What are the big mods to play these day? I was on hoi4 hard from 2017 to 2022 but starting to get back into it now

[safe wing]

Red alert 2 reference

[eternal aspen]

Kaiserreich/redux, OWB, Iron Curtain, Darkest Hour, TNO, Millenium Dawn, and RT56 are huge nowadays

[toxic sapphire]

also how do I break trough belgium as germany they never advance

[craggy trail]

Currently the biggest mods out there, Road to 56, Kaiserreich, Old World Blues, Millennium Dawn, Equestria at War, Kaiserredux to name a few

[eternal aspen]

EAW is making a comeback

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/kirov-kirov-reporting-kirov-airship-bombardiers-to-your-stations-helium-mix-optimal-gif-6508128564212813667

[elfin saffron]

So not too much has changed which is fine

[eternal aspen]

TGWR kinda fell off tho

the mod team isn't that good now

[elfin saffron]

Millennium dawn had a hiatus of updates for a bit no?

[craggy trail]

The Fire Rises is one of the newer mods that combines Millenium Dawn modern day to schizo like TNO

[toxic sapphire]

also how do I break trough belgium as germany they never advance

[eternal aspen]

TFR is just TNO but modern day, it's pretty good

[craggy trail]

Set in an alternate timeline where covid-19 literally broke the world

[eternal aspen]

tbf, it almost dfid

this just makes it a little worse

[elfin saffron]

I really enjoyed the world war 1 mod

[toxic sapphire]

SOMEONE ANSWER ME DAMNIT

[craggy trail]

Darkest hour is unfortunately pretty slow on updates at the moment. Not too sure about Cold War: Iron Curtain

[elfin saffron]

The great war mod was my favorite for about a year

Only issue is when you played as Germany, France always attacks no matter what

Which i guess is fine but I was trying to do alt after a few regular play throughs

[craggy trail]

Your tank division will do the work for you pushing into belgium

[eternal aspen]

both are getting updated

[sudden thistle]

Language

[eternal aspen]

DH is supposed to be out soon™ too

[craggy trail]

"soon"

[toxic sapphire]

I used infantry for it tho

[sudden thistle]

Show a picture

[toxic sapphire]

do i have to do spearheading? I've always did offensive line

[eternal aspen]

yea, it's def smth

[sudden thistle]

U prob took too long

[craggy trail]

What's your current division designs?

[sudden thistle]

So it’s ww1 now

[toxic sapphire]

ordinary

[eternal aspen]

spearheading sucks

[toxic sapphire]

are they that important?

[craggy trail]

Yes

[toxic sapphire]

give me one to break trough belgium NOW

or else

[craggy trail]

8 medium tank battalions to 8 motorized infantry

[eternal aspen]

8/8 tank division

[toxic sapphire]

or else you become poland and are forced to defend germany without doing anything until they attaci

[toxic sapphire]

holy goat

[eternal aspen]

i can do that

1939 start as poland, hold Krakow until barb

[sudden thistle]

Easy

[eternal aspen]

just form slavic union atp

unless that's exclusive to the wojek path

[craggy trail]

^

[eternal aspen]

ah, damn

[lone sail]

Will china have a fascist path

[eternal aspen]

bro how am i cold but my hand are clamy, i can't even type or roll without struggle now

[safe wing]

Yes

[lone sail]

Cool

[safe wing]

Blueshirts

[eternal aspen]

yes, but it prolly wont be fully shown to us until DLC release date

[lone sail]

Why do fascists love shirts

[eternal aspen]

it's how they are known

even the nazis did it

[safe wing]

Because Mussolini popularized it with the black shirts

[craggy trail]

Society of Practice of the Three Principles of the People

[sudden thistle]

Guys I’m wearing a shirt
Does that mean I’m a fascist

[safe wing]

I am too and no

[craggy trail]

[eternal aspen]

Together for Victory, we shall Death or Dishonor those who oppose us. We will take No Step Back, we will take Arms Against Tyranny — for in this Trial of Allegiance, we stand stand Together for Victory. By Blood Alone, we carve our destiny, Waking the Tiger within, as the Man the Guns sound and the world becomes the Graveyard of Empires.

[craggy trail]

You forgot GoD

[eternal aspen]

yea but that's hard to fit in

unless we use the code's codename "WuW" (Wonder Weapons)

[craggy trail]

Got

GoD

GDR

[eternal aspen]

nah the code uses WuW

idk why

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-rex-mlp-ok-who-knows-gif-12173893

[eternal aspen]

tbf, it did add wonderweapons

[lone sail]

Bella ciao

[eternal aspen]

and was focused on germany, so WuW (Wunderweapons) makes sense

[safe wing]

Not just them too

[eternal aspen]

line 1191 of hoi4/common/national_focus/germany.txt

[warped flint]

I am really looking forward to the czechoslovakia one

[craggy trail]

You know, I find it interesting that TNO has not implimented a lot of the features from Gotterdamerung

[eternal aspen]

tbf, the are very behind

[toxic sapphire]

what's the best division design for speedrunning poland and belgium at the same time (if possible but if not then only poland)

[eternal aspen]

i need to fit BfTB & WuW in here gimme a sec to cook

[marsh ravine]

Good lmao I hate special projects

[craggy trail]

TNO is a lot more story aligned than gameplay wise

[eternal aspen]

9 infantry with 2 arty and an AA with engineer, cav recon, and support arty, can easily beat them easy

[craggy trail]

That's why there's like 2 other TNOs

[safe wing]

Silver Shirts (USA)
Black Shirts (Italy Russia and UK)
Gold Shirts (Mexico)
Blue Shirts (China)
Brown Shirts (Germany)

[marsh ravine]

No

Artillery bad

It can work

[toxic sapphire]

easily beat them easy is tuff

[marsh ravine]

But its not as good

[eternal aspen]

yea it sucks, but that alone can win

[craggy trail]

You've got TNO main, TNO Reqium, and TNO Rises Again

[marsh ravine]

22/0 infantry on mass assault right with sup engineer anti air flame tank logistics/artillery ranger

[coarse cradle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bLqnx069Z9k?si=kdqycqEdVG_cI_3p what do u think?

[marsh ravine]

Or 18/0 on any other doctrine and same supports

[eternal aspen]

this is germany, odds are they're going MW

[craggy trail]

How many more splinter mods do they need?

[marsh ravine]

@toxic sapphire

[marsh ravine]

Doesn't mean its a good idea😭

[safe wing]

@eternal aspen

[toxic sapphire]

no

[eternal aspen]

didn't UK have brownshirts too?

[toxic sapphire]

im not doing mw

[marsh ravine]

What doctrine r u

[eternal aspen]

idk i am exhausted

[marsh ravine]

And will u do tanks

[safe wing]

Oh yeah they did I think

[toxic sapphire]

the first one I'm new

[toxic sapphire]

no ion think

or maybe

[marsh ravine]

So mobile warfare?

Isn't that the first one

I swear

[eternal aspen]

nah nvm, even GPT says you're right

[marsh ravine]

Send a screenshot of your doctrine

[toxic sapphire]

oh I thought it meant maneuvere warfare

[eternal aspen]

it is

[marsh ravine]

Mobile warfare is bad, go to the 4th doctrine and go right side on it

[eternal aspen]

Mobile Warfare is Maneuver Warfare, Maneuver is just a trait for it

[toxic sapphire]

afk

[craggy trail]

Mobile Warfare, Superior Firepower, Grand Battleplan, Mass Assault

[marsh ravine]

And do the division i listed

[marsh ravine]

This

[eternal aspen]

don't listen to this, it's not good for most countries that don't have manpower coming outa their arse

[marsh ravine]

???

Thats wrong

Just wrong

[craggy trail]

Remember now that there will be new subdoctrines to the main doctrines when NcNs comes out

[marsh ravine]

Its good on ebery single nation

[eternal aspen]

no?

how am I supposed to utilize it in a 4th reich game

[marsh ravine]

Yeh there will be but not yet so I dont see any point to talk about it when someone is new to the game

[marsh ravine]

Wtf do u mean

Isn't that millennium dawn

[eternal aspen]

no

that's in vanilla

[marsh ravine]

I swear that has a diff doctrine system

[warped flint]

Germany is such a stable nation!

[marsh ravine]

Argentina?

[eternal aspen]

Argentina can get hitler

[marsh ravine]

Mass assault

Works very well there

Quite literally

[craggy trail]

Senor hitler

[marsh ravine]

U can get good gun tech

And battleplan

[eternal aspen]

Senor hilter according to the achievement

[marsh ravine]

With the hp

[eternal aspen]

imo, battleplanning is horrible

especially without a good industry

[marsh ravine]

Then thats your opinion but battleplanning with 1939 gun or better just wins

[marsh ravine]

Even 1936 gun in some cases but I wouldn't recommend it

[eternal aspen]

me with 1 mil on guns battleplanning all of china as sinkiang

[marsh ravine]

Mass assault is made for having a bad industry😭

[eternal aspen]

ngl, that'd be pretty fun to do

[marsh ravine]

How do u only have 1 mil

Thats just skill issue atp

[eternal aspen]

it's a joke

bro some countries start with nthn

well, used to

[marsh ravine]

They still get more than 1 from focuses

😭

[eternal aspen]

idk if any country now has no mil or civs

[toxic sapphire]

how do I open doctrines

[eternal aspen]

press shift+e

[toxic sapphire]

OHHHH

that button is doctrines

I didnt notice

[marsh ravine]

I dont remember the hotkeys

[toxic sapphire]

that next to ckmmande

[eternal aspen]

i have most memorized

[toxic sapphire]

I only remember u and esc

[craggy trail]

It's so good to memorize hotkeys

[toxic sapphire]

give me a doctrine and division design to rampage poland and belgium+france

i still don't know how to make naval invasions

I do but dont

[marsh ravine]

I alr gave u the division design

[toxic sapphire]

mind uhh repeating

[marsh ravine]

This

[eternal aspen]

if you go GBP left side, it's pretty well rounded for general play too

[toxic sapphire]

22 INFANTRY?!?

[marsh ravine]

Its good for offense bad for defense

Mass assault is good at offense and defense just bad tanks

[eternal aspen]

as germany you don't really wanna defend ngl

[marsh ravine]

And they said idk abt tanks

[toxic sapphire]

yeah no

its too late

[marsh ravine]

So let's go with no tanks

[marsh ravine]

??

[toxic sapphire]

i have 30 exp and almost complete mobile warfare

[marsh ravine]

They r new they will have to

[toxic sapphire]

110 exp 💔

[eternal aspen]

as germany, you get buffs for tanks, mot, and mech for historical army focus tree

[marsh ravine]

Then stick with it it'll just be weaker

[marsh ravine]

But you can also get buffs for infantry??

Iirc

Prussian inf

[craggy trail]

Prussian Legacy

[eternal aspen]

yea, but the blitzkreig modifier

they also have one for line arty (prussian legacy)

which idk why ANYONE would use it

[toxic sapphire]

I still don't understand aerial attacks tho

[marsh ravine]

Still doesnt make line arty good😭

[eternal aspen]

yea, it's so shitty unless you're in china

[toxic sapphire]

is it normal to have 256 panzers by 1938 (past run)

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/circassian-flag-astolfo-astolfo-flag-استولفو-adygea-gif-13344254948960065370

what flag is that?

[eternal aspen]

depends on the model

looks like a falangist one

whihc is the fascists in spain

[toxic sapphire]

im pretty sure it's was 3 or 4 tanks

or smth

[eternal aspen]

pz3 or pz4?

[eternal aspen]

oh, that?

[toxic sapphire]

wdym pz3 or pz4

[uncut pollen]

😭

[eternal aspen]

yea that's more than you'll ever need

[toxic sapphire]

still doesn't break trough the maginot

[eternal aspen]

they're a model of panzer (tank) for germany

[craggy trail]

[eternal aspen]

yea that's supply for ya

[toxic sapphire]

custom

[toxic sapphire]

I know

it makes all tiles around it

RED

[eternal aspen]

ah, makes sense

[eternal aspen]

i'm not the best with meta designs, i can make a rather historically accurate tank tho

and also, who's excited for the navy changes making BB even more useless for naval sup

[tiny juniper]

@eternal aspen I thought you wanted to know that Germany weimar borders turns me on and makes me vicously hump the monitor while playing hoi4

[toxic sapphire]

Adolf Hitler is so tuff because he uses drugs to make his soldier last long in war

[sonic sand]

hello all

[eternal aspen]

that is not a thing for this server, let alone me?

why would I need to know that

[craggy trail]

I wonder what special projects they'll add for navy

[tiny juniper]

Germany 1936 starts off with weimar borders

[eternal aspen]

we don't even know you

[tiny juniper]

apart from saar

[eternal aspen]

yea ik that

[tiny juniper]

well did you get a good impression of me?

[sudden thistle]

God I wonder why

[eternal aspen]

not really, it shows me you're weird ngl

[sudden thistle]

@marsh ravine

[tiny juniper]

🙁

[eternal aspen]

hopefully more ship types even without special projects

[sonic sand]

me with 260 tanks of a tile

[craggy trail]

Seaplane tenders

[eternal aspen]

i want my BC to be historical, including torpedoes

[sonic sand]

"hey where did we put 260 tank divisions?"

[tiny juniper]

What's yall opinions on the new China map

for the expansion

[eternal aspen]

i wanna have my KMS Prinz Heinrich to be historical

[toxic sapphire]

Albanian saar
shoots rockets 1k km away from the enemy at max
shoots nuclear missiles
has the same defense as 670 American destroyers
torpedoes deal 900k dmg

[eternal aspen]

it's beautiful

[tiny juniper]

I hope it doesn't affect lag

[sonic sand]

w h a t?

[eternal aspen]

oh it will for a little

[tiny juniper]

but if they find away around it

[toxic sapphire]

bro does not know about ww2

[tiny juniper]

then it's perfect

[sonic sand]

i know damn well the germans were on meth

but

[craggy trail]

US Navy's Airship corps

[sonic sand]

why on earth is that tuff?

[tiny juniper]

do you know what I don't know?

Will all these warlords have exclusive content

or some generic shared tree

[craggy trail]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Akron

[eternal aspen]

they will have some unique content

[sonic sand]

airship :3

[eternal aspen]

but most of it will probably be similar to WTT afaik

[toxic sapphire]

motorized divisions in France reminds me of max verstappen

[tiny juniper]

for each warlord kinda like kx or?

[tiny juniper]

WTT?

ig it's a mod but i never saw the abbreviation

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-f1-formule-1-gif-15087359750872636720

[eternal aspen]

Waking The Tiger

it's a DLC

[tiny juniper]

oh yeha

ok i know

[eternal aspen]

that gave germany the alt-hist path and china/japan more content

[tiny juniper]

I just never heard it in abbreviated

thanks

[sonic sand]

okay heres an idea for a feature. specific focuses for all releaseable nations. No this doesn't mean every single releaseable nation can or will be getting a 250 focus long tree

[tiny juniper]

Will it allow Chinese countries to core tibet?

[sonic sand]

but maybe like 5 or 6 focuses specific to the nation

[eternal aspen]

Who knows

[eternal aspen]

Shld have that from EIC ngl

The princely states def need it

[tiny juniper]

because there was that ruckus in the last dlc where india got revamped

[sonic sand]

like for the papal states you can launch a crusade or something

[tiny juniper]

and the whole steam as well as this server was in anarchy for a while

[tiny juniper]

what about from africa?

or Malta

[sonic sand]

or as prussia you can re-unify germany

[tiny juniper]

Or Middle East?

[eternal aspen]

You can?

[sonic sand]

no

you can't

thats the problem

[tiny juniper]

you can

[eternal aspen]

Yea, you need to enable fractured germany

[sonic sand]

yeah but like i think the releaseable countries

should have like 5 or 6 speicific focuses only they get

alongside the standard tree

[eternal aspen]

Ph, releasables dont get content, bc nobody is expected to play them

[toxic sapphire]

where should I draw the offensive line for poland like at what city

[sonic sand]

all of it

[eternal aspen]

Plus most releasables dony have the ability to exist

[eternal aspen]

Russia border

[toxic sapphire]

do i give them eastern poland or no when they ask

[eternal aspen]

yes

[sonic sand]

yeah but like i think it would be a cool detail for people who want to play prussia or the pope or something

[eternal aspen]

or they will invade you, and you've got france to worry about

[sonic sand]

they all got custom leaders and shit

like you can play as the pope with the papal states

[eternal aspen]

ngl yea, but, it's also kinda pointless code

[safe wing]

I won the Tsar bet from yesterday btw

[eternal aspen]

you can play thr pope as italy

[safe wing]

It was too easy

[tiny juniper]

not sure if this is impressive

[toxic sapphire]

should I make one for the kaliningrad units or

[tiny juniper]

I wanted warlord ropleplay dynamics

[safe wing]

Its a warlord tree

[tiny juniper]

yeah

[eternal aspen]

yes, protect east prussia so much

[tiny juniper]

it should be more

[eternal aspen]

put line, 20 tank divs there

[toxic sapphire]

what if I dont

[eternal aspen]

to be able to take danzig

[safe wing]

Your supposed to become nationalist China, imperial or communist china

[eternal aspen]

you're basically cooked

[sonic sand]

i know but like maybe 5 or 6 focuses would really make playing or having releasable nations nice

[toxic sapphire]

Liechte or panzer

[eternal aspen]

either or

[tiny juniper]

but they're not meant to be played

[eternal aspen]

as long as you have units there to protect

[safe wing]

35.2 width infantry my beloved

[tiny juniper]

most of the time that they ARE in the game

[eternal aspen]

mods:

[tiny juniper]

they are puppets of the player

[toxic sapphire]

it cant be selected as a deployment option

[eternal aspen]

and that's to benefit off the generic focus tree

[safe wing]

EU4 has unplayable nations too

That start out as vassals

Like Syria for example

[eternal aspen]

eu4 is basically unplayable unless you sit there for 500 hours trying to learn it ngl

[tiny juniper]

there's a mod for Malta so I'm sure @sonic sand will find a releasable with content in a mod

[eternal aspen]

anyways, im off to go fix my mod sm more

[sonic sand]

yes exactly

[tiny juniper]

spain?

[tiny juniper]

and give factories

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[tiny juniper]

anyways

[sonic sand]

ik ik

[tiny juniper]

I'll miss Demchugdongrub's Naval Bombing ability

[sonic sand]

i mean

like i just want cool things for vanilla hoi4

without having to mod the game and not be able to get any achievements

[tiny juniper]

rest asure if they add releasable content then they'll demand 250 euros for it in some dlc

[sonic sand]

yoooooo

[tiny juniper]

I share your wish too

[sonic sand]

peak fiction

[eternal aspen]

yea

the mod itself doesn't work tho

[sonic sand]

this is why i play hoi4

the the crippling financial debt this game puts me in

[tiny juniper]

but if you really want to have a good experience

might as well use mods

[azure palm]

Same.

[sonic sand]

i have had to remorgage my home to buy the new dlcs

[toxic sapphire]

HOLY YUGOSLAVIA ACTUALLY GAVE SLOVENIA

[tiny juniper]

All I can say is aye aye captain

for myself

[eternal aspen]

yea, usually they do on hist AI

[toxic sapphire]

they never do

[eternal aspen]

the rest you gotta fight for if you haven't done the czechs

[sonic sand]

my family have been sold for money

[sonic sand]

you pirate the game?

[tiny juniper]

certainly not

[sonic sand]

i had to

[tiny juniper]

where did you get that from

[sonic sand]

sell my car

[mellow shale]

why do people invade uk as germany after france falls

[sonic sand]

to afford no comprimise no surrender

[tiny juniper]

uhhh to end the war?

[eternal aspen]

to end the allied war

[sonic sand]

because otherwise the uk comes and kicks your ass

[eternal aspen]

so USA doesn't get involved

[toxic sapphire]

8 medium tank battalions to 8 motorized infantry
is this good for murdering belgium and france

[tiny juniper]

there's no way to white peace Britain out

[tiny juniper]

so-so

[azure palm]

Wasnt it that we will also get a new Czechoslowakia tree?

[eternal aspen]

that's basically your end-game division btw

[eternal aspen]

yea end of the expansion pass

[azure palm]

FINALLY!

[sonic sand]

czechowoslowovakia

[sudden thistle]

Because they are boring and don’t want to fight the US

[eternal aspen]

didn't the czechs get content in NSB or was that BfTB?

[tiny juniper]

I wish there was a way to script-peace Britain as Germany

[azure palm]

Czechomoldovoaustroslowakia

[tiny juniper]

maybe inflicting enough casualties on Britain ebfore a certain date

[toxic sapphire]

GIVE MONTENEGRO A FOCUS AND ABILITY TO MAKE DUKLJA!

[tiny juniper]

or taking france before a certain date

[eternal aspen]

Australia-Hungary

[tiny juniper]

meloni

[sonic sand]

czechomoldovaaustroslowakiahungary

[azure palm]

Czechomoldovoaustrohungarosinoitaloslowakia

[sonic sand]

Australia-Lichtenstein

[tiny juniper]

talk about milking money

jesus

[sonic sand]

peace for time

[mellow shale]

czechomoldovoaustroslovakogalicialomederiahungarykursklcatalaniovalenciabavarioulithuanilatvestoniafinlandolakia

[azure palm]

We arent fine...

[tiny juniper]

daddywaddycummywummy

[primal timber]

dog 🙏

[toxic sapphire]

do I accept Albert speers plans

[mellow shale]

[sonic sand]

ok you're going back on the medication

[tiny juniper]

mod

blame the mod

[sonic sand]

skill issue!!!!

[mellow shale]

what does that mean

[azure palm]

This gives me the european chile vibes