hoi4-general

[craggy trail]

Kinda realized some time this morning that I am using an older version of colored buttons

Because it's supposed to be like this after Gotterdamerung

[warped flint]

I have stolen this

[viscid stirrup]

its always so annoying when youtubers say that they dont have mods and arent cheating but they still use coloured button

[craggy trail]

It's honestly more Quality of Life mods than actual game breaking / Ironman incompatible mods

[marsh ravine]

There's literally 0 harm in cosmetic mods

[viscid stirrup]

yes three is

[marsh ravine]

How

Doesn't make it any easier

Just looks nice

[viscid stirrup]

a very flashy mod could blind someone

[marsh ravine]

/sounds nice if music mod

[craggy trail]

Music mods are mostly client side so they can also work in MP

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-newgens-gif-8678210315718230321

[trim pike]

None of that please

[viscid stirrup]

what message did u delte?

[trim pike]

The gif of a controversial person

[viscid stirrup]

bro it was just a guy with a large tounge

[trim pike]

It was someone…

Just dont post that again

[viscid stirrup]

uh huh

[trim pike]

Mhm

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[craggy trail]

I got a bunch of QOL mods that I use for my Ironman mode games

[viscid stirrup]

pick your focus dawg

[valid prairie]

why do i have helicopters in 1936 spain?

no non ironman mods either

[viscid stirrup]

helicopters were invented by spain gng

[valid prairie]

google says france

and google also says they only started major production in 1939

[heavy vigil]

Hes 13

[heavy vigil]

Spain starts with it

[valid prairie]

i never noticed before

thats cool

[viscid stirrup]

no actually im 13

oh

[warped flint]

stupid ai

I was trying to get macedonia

but italy just spammed it

[heavy vigil]

?

[gusty oracle]

hello

[craggy trail]

TIme to bring back the old navy system

[craggy trail]

Hello hello!

https://tenor.com/view/countless-coloratura-coloratura-mlp-my-little-pony-mlp-wave-gif-1702021189915528781

How's the day going?

[gusty oracle]

decent

but im struggling as slavic union poland

[craggy trail]

I see.

[warped flint]

Think I just sit here now and wait for the soviets to invade me

[viscid stirrup]

invade hungry vroseph

[warped flint]

there my puppet

Serbia and montengro are my puppets to

[heavy vigil]

did you guys know ai uses trains for lend lease

[dusky burrow]

oh my

[copper cobalt]

The ai uses cheats to get through my impenetrable defenses 😠

[viscid stirrup]

1 division thick defense?

[copper cobalt]

Shh

It's impenetrable!

[atomic grove]

the hell happened

whered the kaiser go

[gusty oracle]

netherlands

[atomic grove]

through an event?

[silk gust]

Finally completed the red dusk mod

Sorry if the screen looks weird

[warped flint]

Sorta stuck now

[fair horizon]

wait theres german ship models?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[valid prairie]

why is my capital barcelona as anarchist spain and not madrid?

[dusky burrow]

Do you have Madrid?

[valid prairie]

yes

i finished the civil war

[craggy trail]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2896492648

[dusky burrow]

Time to spread the revolution

[valid prairie]

hell yeah

[rich nacelle]

Guess who learned how to use tanks today.

And guess who caused the American-British war to go from having 2m total casualties to the British having 3m casualties from me alone in under a month.

[marsh ravine]

i leant?

[rich nacelle]

Learned

[viscid stirrup]

ts country can literally core evrything btw

[viscid stirrup]

you i assume

[rich nacelle]

But it takes 500 years to get all the political power needed.

[viscid stirrup]

nah its only around 24

[slim sigil]

whoever decided force attack and last stand were good additions to the game needs to re evaluate

[rich nacelle]

Wait until they save you one day. I know it sucks when the ai uses it but is sucks for them when you use it.

[valid prairie]

naval invading britain is impossible

how am i meant to do it

they have a unit for every single tile

[slim sigil]

no the part that sucks is that force attack gives you -100% organisation damage

both on offense and defense??

like offense makes sense but lit literally makes the game unplayable for a week

[rich nacelle]

Iirc it increased strength damage.

[slim sigil]

which is basically useless cause unless youre fighting a 5th world country their divisions will not die from losing strength

[rich nacelle]

True

I lowkey have never used force attack, only last stand.

But I think it can be useful in a pinch but idfk

[marsh ravine]

????

It does not make it unplayable

[slim sigil]

what

[marsh ravine]

How r u taking so much strength damage

[slim sigil]

im not?

[marsh ravine]

To where its unplayable

[slim sigil]

i cant attack them

no the situation is the ai is using force attack

[marsh ravine]

Oh u mean the ai doing force attack

[slim sigil]

and while they are using it their divisions are invincible

[marsh ravine]

Force attack them back

So u crit

[slim sigil]

yeah but now my 5th world country divisions are losing all their strength 💔

[marsh ravine]

They shouldnt be

What is ur div template

U probably just lack hp

Or are gun0

[slim sigil]

modded early game civil war

they all suck

[marsh ravine]

Ahh

Then yeh ig its kinda cooked

But overall its managable

And fine

Just wait till u encounter Chinese force.attack

[slim sigil]

every mod always gotta have that one country that collapses and explodes instantly

[limpid field]

am i cool now

[viscid stirrup]

cool enough

[limpid field]

China and spain

Sometimes USA

[tulip thorn]

Sure

[viscid stirrup]

is that a tno reference

[slim sigil]

literally everything reference

[tulip thorn]

Spain is a canon event

[pale zenith]

guys im looking for 1-3 beginners

to play RON. I host

[tulip thorn]

?

[pale zenith]

mod

rise of nations

underrated asf

if anyone is down just join MP1

[tulip thorn]

Also btw wrong channel

[pale zenith]

.

i did not just lose aura.

[valid prairie]

border conflicts are genuinely impossible

how do you win them

[slim sigil]

you reload save file and dont fight the border conflict

[fallen vigil]

i used an old version of the game (1.12.14) then i got up to 5 civs around mid 1937 made an agency and did 3 collabs (2 is usually what u need to do one 30% and one 45% but i got unlucky so i just did 3 collabs) and they got done around april 1941 then make 2 width cavalry and spam the SHIT out of them (dont forget to get the manpower buff of 500 manpower weekly and do the manpower laws) and set them on garrison support to the ussr and choose victory points you need around like 100-120 divisions by the time u declare war and they should cap

siberian tiger

[slim sigil]

1.12....

peak version

[fallen vigil]

yeah otherwise it wont work cause once u declare war instead of spawning on enemy territory u just spawn back into ur capital city

@charred lake make sure u declare war on mongolia before germany invades the ussr

[misty fossil]

happy halloween

[viscid stirrup]

I also got siberian tiger achievement. What i did was spam bunkers and infantry while mass producing cas, and i slowly inched across siberia travelling along the railways

In the most modern version btw

[rocky marlin]

Sup guys

i never atemped at a multiplayer game here before. I am not the best player as well but i wanna ask. How fun is it?

[tulip thorn]

It can be fun

With the right people

[rocky marlin]

Damn than i am a party ruiner becuase how bad i can be right?

[fallen vigil]

cas??? damn

how did u have the industry for that

[rocky marlin]

Still better than Ai hoi4 peace confidenses

[viscid stirrup]

What i did was i invaded sinkiang in the begining of the game and scraped together enough war support to get a region with lots of build slots and i spammed industry focuses

Japan defeated china by 1941

And invaded usr

[rocky marlin]

Question

The historical Multiplayer

Can you go non historical?

i mean do you need to speriticly go the historical path there?

[tiny iris]

I think you need to take a long look in the mirror

😭

[honest vale]

When will the DLC’s be on sale? Im talking about the old ones like no step back, by blood alone, etc etc will they be on sale on halloween? Or when the new DLC comes out?

[rocky marlin]

Chat please awnser my question

[viscid stirrup]

Yes

[rocky marlin]

Okay thanks 😄

[tulip thorn]

Depends on the rules that the host puts in place

[rocky marlin]

oh

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-wave-cute-mlp-my-little-pony-gif-8814149759150757043

[fallen vigil]

HOW DO I GET A COUNCILER

SOMEONE HELP

[cedar lance]

OH MAH DAWGS WASSUP

[viscid stirrup]

Jimarkus should play equestria at war fr

[tulip thorn]

Good

[cedar lance]

nice

[fallen vigil]

someone please help

idk how to play as switzerland

[tulip thorn]

No one knows how to play Switzerland

[viscid stirrup]

Me neither

[fallen vigil]

how tf do i get councilors thennnnn

ahhh

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-rex-mlp-ok-who-knows-gif-12173893

[viscid stirrup]

all the achievements of humanity are the culmination of thousands of years of collective struggle

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-hello-chat-gif-20962675

nothing bad is happening 😄

[cedar lance]

really mane?

[rocky marlin]

Yeah

why?

[frank igloo]

IT IS OUR GOAL TO STRUGGLE FOR THE NATION

中华民国万岁

！！！

国民党万岁！！！

[cedar lance]

URA!!!!!!!!!

[tiny iris]

English only. That's right, its me, HOI4 Discord server's mini mod.

That everybody hates

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 ONCE we have control of baltics finland and sweden we will begin the march to the world

[rocky marlin]

Nice sturgell

btw if ya'll asking why i am censoring the flag

i have a mod on

Oh no i forgot the small icon!

[frank igloo]

delall chi tfw

[rocky marlin]

Wha?

okay now it's censored

[rocky marlin]

So anyway. Nice struggle 🙂

[waxen gale]

Hello everyone, I'm from China

[candid grove]

inst hoi4 banned in china?

Isn't

[waxen gale]

indeed

[candid grove]

Do you play hoi4

[waxen gale]

My good friend plays this, so I know a little about it.

[candid grove]

Oh, ok

[waxen gale]

It must be said that the development team of Hearts of Iron IV was not as professional as the development team of Hearts of Iron III.

The initial stats on the personal character panels of Chinese generals seem to have been filled in arbitrarily...

[fair horizon]

chat why does industrial grease look so tasty

[frank igloo]

台湾人？

[waxen gale]

Sun Liren's military skills weren't actually that great, yet his initial attack and defense are so high in the game... Sun Liren is just famous.

[waxen gale]

我大陆的。。。

[frank igloo]

很好！！！

[waxen gale]

看来你也是

哪个省啊

[frank igloo]

不

我是美国人

[waxen gale]

好家伙

美籍华人吗还是单纯都中文的美国本地人？

[frank igloo]

我是WHITE

[waxen gale]

ok

[trim pike]

请用英语

[frank igloo]

lol

[viscid stirrup]

arise ye brave and loyal sons of china, the gods fear your might!

[waxen gale]

fine

[frank igloo]

🥀

over

@waxen gale but yeah no im a white dude

lol

[trim pike]

Google translate?

[frank igloo]

no

[viscid stirrup]

hollup, is that A TNO REFERENCE!?!?!?!?

ITS LITERALLY THE YUNNAN

[frank igloo]

i just don’t know 中文 for white dude

[waxen gale]

To be honest, it doesn't matter whether someone is Chinese or not.

[trim pike]

U can suggest this on the forums

[waxen gale]

“白种人”

[waxen gale]

i did

Westerners seem to only recognize Sun Li-ren among the Kuomintang generals from World War II... perhaps with Xue Yue at most.

[viscid stirrup]

LONG YUN WILL BURN AWAY THE CANCER PLAUGING CHINA

[frank igloo]

DAI LI

I LOVE DAI LI

[viscid stirrup]

THE JAPANESE BOOTLICKERS WILL BE DESTROYERED

[waxen gale]

Well, Dai Li wasn't a military general, although his espionage skills were indeed quite strong.

[frank igloo]

i am about to fly domestic

this is what i will be reading

[viscid stirrup]

NATIONAL PROTECTION ARMY

LONG LIVE CHINA! LONG LIVE! LONG LIVE!

[waxen gale]

Actually, in Hearts of Iron IV, Chiang Kai-shek had a general who was the most powerful general at the time, but the game developers made him seem very weak.

[frank igloo]

wansui

[quiet vessel]

sum ting wong here

[frank igloo]

I’m not happy that people say Chiang instead of Jiang

[slim nexus]

Mf died and his successor tried to call himself an emperor 😭

[frank igloo]

because he have Mao in pinyin but Jiang in POSTAL

i HATE postal romanization.

[viscid stirrup]

real, the real leader was mao tsedong

[frank igloo]

Jiang Jieshi save us

🙏

[slim nexus]

Mao smoking.gif

[viscid stirrup]

save me long yun

burn away the cancer plauging china

get these japanese bootlickers away from me long yun

long live china

[waxen gale]

Wade-Giles, unfortunately, Chinese people aren't really used to it, and it's basically no longer used.

[slim nexus]

It’s also not used cause it’s from the Qing

[viscid stirrup]

save me long yun

get revenge from the japanese imperialists

[waxen gale]

Wang Yaowu was the most militarily capable general in the Kuomintang, and he was quite famous on the mainland, but he wasn't publicized much in Taiwan because he was captured during the civil war.

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-my-beloved-meme-my-beloved-heart-gif-25042513

[waxen gale]

The game portrays him as far too weak; his military capabilities are comparable to those of Lin Biao and Su Yu.

[viscid stirrup]

bro really got caputed

[waxen gale]

Unfortunately, Wang Yaowu had actually seen through the movements of the People's Liberation Army during the civil war, but his superiors, Chiang Kai-shek and Chen Cheng, simply refused to listen to him. Chiang Kai-shek had dismantled Wang Yaowu's core troops.

[atomic grove]

am i 100% cooked

[spark fulcrum]

anyone else thinks the new dlc is a "bit" overpriced? lol

[atomic grove]

unfortunately thats just how paradox is

[viscid stirrup]

indeeed

paradox has a monopoly

[spark fulcrum]

🙁 i wanted to buí it but now im not sure, imma wait for a sale

[viscid stirrup]

there is nothing we can do

[spark fulcrum]

buy*

[atomic grove]

shoulda bought it during autumn sale

[viscid stirrup]

those who make the peaceful revolution impossible make the violent revolution inevitable

[spark fulcrum]

didnt even notice it was on sale :/

[sudden thistle]

Since paradox dominates the entire genre of this game

They can choose their own prices mostly

[cold marten]

what dlc?

[spark fulcrum]

i mean i get it but its a big jump from the previous dlcs

[heavy vigil]

youre looking at the combined pack not the individual dlc

the prices arent changed individually as far as im aware

[viscid stirrup]

bro is not aware

[sudden thistle]

To clarify u mean the actual dlc and not the expansion pack

[spark fulcrum]

oh shoot, i was looking at the expanison pack, but i dont see the dlc's price. Sorry

[heavy vigil]

because its not being sold individually yet

[viscid stirrup]

chat what is the most op country for compliance

i think its usssssr

[heavy vigil]

bulgaria or ethiopia

[sudden thistle]

Doesn’t green Poland have very good compliance gain

[slim nexus]

played as white ruthenia, got this land

[heavy vigil]

never played

[sudden thistle]

U do an Iceland world conquest but not green Poland

Fair enough ig

[heavy vigil]

one of those is interesting

[viscid stirrup]

casey did an inceland world conquest?

[fading elk]

Ya waiting for the sale is fine

At least unlike another paradox game hoi4 at least makes older dlc free after a while

[sudden thistle]

They did Iceland not inceland

[viscid stirrup]

guys boycot the new dlc

if we boycot it maybe theyll reduce the price

[sudden thistle]

Bought it like a day or two after release already

[viscid stirrup]

u got scammed

[sudden thistle]

Money could have been more well spent

[viscid stirrup]

half of it is just cosmetics

that could be added using mods

[sudden thistle]

I like the cosmetics

[viscid stirrup]

top 4 ways to use money:

[sudden thistle]

It’s a lot better than the stupid Fortnite cosmetics shop

The vbucks are only used for characters and emotes

[heavy vigil]

Im using my money for worse purposes

[viscid stirrup]

1.invest into stocks market(it grows 7% a year)
2. invest into real estate(safe investment and passive income from rent)
3. investing into crypto(high risk high reward)
4. starting a vending machine(they have high profit margins and are relatively cheap)

[heavy vigil]

Then dont buy them

[viscid stirrup]

i havent bought a single dlc in my entire life

[sudden thistle]

Ok

[viscid stirrup]

1.invest into stocks market(it grows 7% a year)
2. invest into real estate(safe investment and passive income from rent)
3. investing into crypto(high risk high reward)
4. starting a vending machine(they have high profit margins and are relatively cheap)

[sudden thistle]

U just sent it

[viscid stirrup]

oh right

soryr i have dementia

i have dementia

i have a very difverse investment portfolio

i have around 20 stocks in tech companies

i own a part of a house

[quiet vessel]

my mom is kinda homeless

[viscid stirrup]

if your mother had rented a house in miami florida, then i would get about 0.0003% of her rent

or something like that

so rent in florida fr gng

[lost iron]

MAX LVL LUXEMBURG AURA FARM 🫵🥶

Will this pc run hoi4

[viscid stirrup]

luxembourg tank world conquest

🗣️🥶

[lost iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1428136701687238707/1432812643315617894/caption.gif

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-sick-wow-wowsers-minecraft-gif-10059021701103936359

[cursive socket]

What is the easiet way to find enemy navies

[viscid stirrup]

Put radar everywhere

[slim nexus]

Two weeks no hoi4 starting tomorrow…

Fate worse than death

[tulip thorn]

You should play hoi4

Who needs anything else

[cobalt imp]

When an election happens in a demo country does the most popular party get it?

sorry i genuinely never play them so

[slim nexus]

I’m going to America for two weeks I can’t 😭

[tulip thorn]

What state

(Please dont be california)

[slim nexus]

Florida sadly

[tulip thorn]

Oh thank goodness

Atleast you avoided the hell that is california

[slim nexus]

Honestly cali would prolly be less racist for me 😭

[tulip thorn]

?

[slim nexus]

Because I’m Chinese 😭

Cali just seems like a more progressive state

[tulip thorn]

Cali sucks

Racism exists but is not as widespread as you'd think

[slim nexus]

Just need to find my Irish passport 😭

[rocky marlin]

I NAVIL INVADED BRITISH ISLAND AND IT WAS SUSEFULL!

YES!

[fair horizon]

chat i want you to know i love boats

we need more boat types in the game frfr

and we need them to have their own research too

i want torpedo boats

[slim nexus]

belarus but big

[cobalt imp]

a naval rework is coming soon

[fair horizon]

its gonna be good

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[gaunt thorn]

Who agrees on the maginot there should already be stronghold fort there and france should have the special project researched already

for realis

realism

[fair horizon]

france gets like all the best tank tech

no

[spare dirge]

btw guys am I the only one to be stuck at belgium buy french army while playing "good"
i'm mean 16width of defense division, 28 or 32 width of attack division, good tanks, etc..., good industry, good logistic, but just can't push ?

[fair horizon]

show divas

divs

[lost iron]

boiii my front collapsing....

russians at Berlin

I will call steiner

[fair horizon]

ill tell the kids there wont be a german empire

[azure palm]

I just nuked LA but the USA capitulated before the nuke could arrive, now I just nuked my own city

[fair horizon]

your own occupied city

[azure palm]

I annexed it in the peace deal

before it hit

I nuked my own owned city

[lost iron]

Pull back from Slovakia, attenpt to concentrate forces and attempt to encircle the dutch forces

[tiny iris]

Keep going Italy, one day I am sure you'll penetrate my lines.

[azure palm]

Good Luck Benitto if hes still alive

[fair horizon]

oh gosh attritioning tanks

[lost iron]

Try to encircle them

[fair horizon]

make it stop

[lost iron]

Capitulate Hungary and move divisions to Italy

[tiny iris]

They really gotta change this AI I swear.

[cedar lance]

should i get the rangers SF unit when The new DLC expansion comes out?

[marsh ravine]

We dont know yet?

Why are you asking before it comes out😭

[cedar lance]

becus i NEED to know if its worth it

like bruh

i always buy new DLCs and expansions

for like hoi4

and etc games

[marsh ravine]

We dont know

Afaik

Cos we havent seen the expansion

How are we supposed to say what's good if we havent seen it fully

[cedar lance]

alr sorry JEEZ

[atomic grove]

finally

[shy bloom]

Steiner's Counter attack failed though

[tiny iris]

America be like:

There are more guns then people in that country

Interesting fact

[fading elk]

So if I declare war on the Soviets as Japan in 1940-41 would the allies declare war on me

[meager valley]

Always thought this was a funny statistic. Bc in reality it’s not that impressive since guns can last hundreds of years and people do not

“There are more trees than people. 🤯 “

Like 190 countries have more guns than people including basically every European country

[drowsy bronze]

What part of Florida

only the northern parts are racist the rest is too many immigrants for people to care about race

[slim nexus]

Davenport

[tiny iris]

That is literally just false.

Where do you even get your info from?

[meager valley]

Have you researched this before saying that?

[tiny iris]

There are 10 million people in Sweden, I don't think they produced 10 million muskets even in the great Northern war.

[slim nexus]

I’m assuming Joe means in the military included

[meager valley]

Depends how you classify guns into the statistics

[tiny iris]

There are 60000 military personel in Sweden

[meager valley]

Are they only counting modern? Do they count military? Do they count foreign military?

[slim nexus]

Fair

[meager valley]

Like obviously us has by far the most.

But many countries aren’t as well off as they think

[eternal palm]

Ok so there's not a billion guns in India or China

[quiet vessel]

i love playing finland sm

[tiny iris]

You also gotta realise that you get rid of guns when they become outdated. The USA doesn't have all their 19th century muskets in stockpile. Those who are left are for ceremonial or collector purposes.

[eternal palm]

Show me a source and I'll believe you. This is a very dumb hill to die on

[eternal palm]

And do they count those?

[meager valley]

Not necessarily true, people still hunt with black powder

Let me produce 1862 gear in HOI4 😮‍💨

[tiny iris]

Yes but there is a severe shortage in muskets now then it was 200 years ago

[eternal palm]

What? Wdym shortage. Its not like there an active demand for it lol

It just exists

[meager valley]

All I’m saying is it depends on what you classify as a firearm. And what’s registered

[eternal palm]

Again, stop spitballing and show me sauce

[meager valley]

MUSKET DEMAND IS BACK ON THE MENU

[eternal palm]

:letsgooo:

[tiny iris]

Exactly, that's why it ain't mass produced like it was during the civil war.

[meager valley]

Problem with statistics is they exclude many older weapons and unregistered ones.

So the number is likely higher

[eternal palm]

Yes that doesn't mean that there's a shortage. Do you even know what that word means kek

It just means there is less of it since gun technology has moved on

[eternal palm]

Precisely

[tiny iris]

Look up guns per capita. Then you get a bunch of sources.

[eternal palm]

You can't just accuse someone of being wrong and then tell them to to look it up kek. That's not how that works

[meager valley]

Wait till you realize what they classify as guns

[eternal palm]

I want you to tell Me why you think the other guy is wrong.

[tiny iris]

There is not over a billion guns in China and India.

[eternal palm]

Otherwise, don't talk.

[eternal palm]

That's not his point either

All he said, there's more guns than peole think

[meager valley]

I never said China or India 😂

[eternal palm]

And that this "more guns than people" statistics isn't all that surprising

[tiny iris]

Because guns are not produced like that, they get rid of old guns then they produce enough guns primarily to the armed forces and the police which does not make up the majority of population.

[meager valley]

But Europe when including unregistered and older weapons is probably closer to the pip than you’d assume

Already .2 to .3 of modern weapons per 1 person in Europe

[tiny iris]

Well, Japan barely has any guns, neither does Norway, Sweden, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, atleast not more then their population.

[tiny iris]

Sweden does not stockpile their entire musket armory they had since Gustavos Adolphus.

[slim nexus]

Japan is still limited in terms of rearming since ww2 😭

[meager valley]

Sweden literally has more than Germany and Iraq

[sly elm]

the enemy of my friend is my friend (ignore this ww2, i fricked up)

[meager valley]

Yes but most people may have 1-4 muskets hidden away as relics

[tiny iris]

Guns, do you mean firearms or do you mean mechanised too?

[tiny iris]

That is just not true

I have only met one guy who owns a historical musket

[meager valley]

That’s why your statistics are false though. It doesn’t factor in everything

And it’s why I said the number is higher than you’d think

[meager valley]

Europeans when their lore is conquest and not peace and friendship for all 😡

[tiny iris]

But there still ain't over ten million guns in Sweden. Even counting the entire military which there are only 60000 personel in.

But I do want a musket

I love guns

So beautiful

And I love history too

So a historical Swedish musket would be my dreammmmmmmmmm

[heavy vigil]

Bernadotte pfp smh

[tiny iris]

https://tenor.com/view/this-post-was-fact-checked-by-real-swedish-patriot-fact-checked-gif-14016097477139740023

[safe wing]

Good morning chat

[meager valley]

From a population of 900k in 1500 to 10 mil today. Consider how many millions of Swedes lived in that 500 years. Could be 50+ mil, maybe 100 mil. Now what percentage owned muskets or firearms? Probably higher than the 23% of guns per person as today

[tiny iris]

Again, they do not stockpile their muskets. There exists muskets from that time but it is for ceremonial and collector use.

And there is not 100 million fuking guns in Sweden

[meager valley]

Okay but they’re still considered firearms. You are intentionally skewing results to look better lol

[tiny iris]

You literally just made that shit up

[meager valley]

23% per 1 person would be 2.3 mil not 100 mil

[tiny iris]

No shit but there is not over 50 million of them in Sweden.

[meager valley]

💀

[meager valley]

Do you know that for a fact? Is that something that was examined in the reporting?

[tiny iris]

Oh yes, the population could have been 100 million... no

Sweden did not have 100 million in population

Even if we count dead

[safe wing]

Sweden has 8 million I think

In terms of population

[tiny iris]

10 million.

[meager valley]

I’m saying over 500 years of people living and dying. From 1 mil to 10 mil. Which is why I said 50-100 mil

[heavy vigil]

Instead of arguing just go count the guns

[safe wing]

Thanks for the correction

[meager valley]

Like over human history, 100 bil + humans have lived

[tiny iris]

Well, I do but no one listens.

[safe wing]

Anyways time to burn Carthage to the ground

[tiny iris]

I literally have the google tab open rn

[meager valley]

But you’ll only count modern weapons not those that got Sweden to its current borders

[tiny iris]

Those guns are mostly dismantled

[meager valley]

Does it make you said that there’s nearly enough to make up 1/4 of the population even when ignoring older firearms?

While US is only 5x more

[tiny iris]

Never said that, but I am certain that its not more then the population.

[meager valley]

Like the US is by far the highest. But only has 5x more than Sweden per capita. You’d expect it to be higher

1.2 per person in us, meanwhile .24 per person in Sweden

All I’m saying is the statistic “More gun than people” isn’t as impressive as you’d think

[tiny iris]

I'll just stop debating...

[devout trench]

Hoi discord try to be about hoi

[meager valley]

This beating a united Europe?

[devout trench]

Yes

Asia is best continent

[meager valley]

What’s asias current pop in hoi4? 1.5 bil?

Ik between China and India it’s like 900+ mil

[devout trench]

Something like that

Maybe 2 billion

[meager valley]

United Europe is 500+ mil I think?

So Asia outnumbers 3-4x

[devout trench]

Yeah

Africa comes in second in population I think

[meager valley]

They gotta add a start option where each of the continents are just mega nations

[devout trench]

Would be awesome

[meager valley]

Africa is like 140 mil right? South America about 115-120, North America I wanna say 130-140 mil

[devout trench]

Yeah

North America has more though I think

[meager valley]

Oceania prob 80-100 mil

[eternal palm]

There's mods for that

Africa and Asia will die cuz no eco

[meager valley]

US pop is what 124 at game start?

[eternal palm]

136

[meager valley]

Truee

[eternal palm]

Same as sov iirc

[meager valley]

Thought Soviets were like 190+

[eternal palm]

Nah they're at 136

[meager valley]

Fr?

[eternal palm]

Ye

[heavy vigil]

China js 500mil indonesia is 120mil india (including princely) is 300mil

[eternal palm]

Unless I'm wrong. Can't check

But feel free to

[heavy vigil]

Japan is like 50? Mil

Maybe 100 i forgot tbh

They have a lot too anyway

[meager valley]

I always forget Indonesia is Asia and not Oceania

[eternal palm]

100

[meager valley]

Yeah Oceania mad weak

[heavy vigil]

Ah ok

Anyway yeah its stronger than europe kind of

Your eco is worse

But manpower a lottt better

Joe are you in game?

Its easy to test this

[meager valley]

Europe’s economy probably much better though at start

[meager valley]

I’m not, I’m in bed

[heavy vigil]

Fair

[meager valley]

It’s morning just woke up 😂

[heavy vigil]

When you are, go into debug mode

Tag sov

Go decisions

Theres one to split the continents of the world

And you can just see

[meager valley]

Idk why but auto-complete decisions has been crashing lately

[heavy vigil]

You dont need that

Its just a debug decision

[eternal palm]

Top o the mornin: get on hoi4 dc 🤝

[meager valley]

Ik I’m saying though it’s annoying 😂

Wish the African Union was cheaper and easier to do

Considering Africa is lowkey one of the weakest continents in game.

Europe and South America seem comparatively very easy to form

[fallow grove]

When the conquered territory capitulates with 0 collaboration governments do i get their industry?

[eternal palm]

Yea Ethiopia is in a pretty shit position. Given the entire Continent is owned by Europeans

[eternal palm]

Some of it. As always. Having collabs will always get you more

[fallow grove]

What’s the % of it?

[eternal palm]

Check in occupation tab

It'll tell u there

[meager valley]

Congo can form it too. Even if you occupy or annex all of Africa. Still takes like 20-30 years to core it

[fallow grove]

I just know Romania starts with 7 military factories I capitulated them and I ain’t getting a single factory

[eternal palm]

From Romania?

[meager valley]

Formables like that should just let you core with compliance like anarchist Spain. Or the OG approach of coring occupied regions

[fallow grove]

Yes I should get their factories

But I ain’t getting them

[eternal palm]

Check occupation tab 🤷‍♂️

[meager valley]

Low compliance?

[eternal palm]

Oh ye it's almost always lying to you. So you just might be screwed

[eternal palm]

No collabs

[meager valley]

If you hover over a state you occupy. You can see what percentage they give

[meager valley]

Wym

[fallow grove]

This is so sad what’s the point of invading if they don’t give their stuff

[meager valley]

Resources mostly

[eternal palm]

They didn't do any collabs on the territory hence compliance is low

[meager valley]

Romania has oil

[meager valley]

Well if they just conquered it, it would be extremely low yeah

[eternal palm]

You do. Just a small fraction of it. Which gets increased with higher compliance

[fallow grove]

It’s 1936 and i just wanted to expand the Soviet Union

[eternal palm]

Hence collabs are important t

[eternal palm]

Are u on liberated workers

[fallow grove]

In harsh quotas

[meager valley]

There’s a statistic called compliance. Compliance starts at 0, where you basically get no resources or factories. Over time it goes up and you basically get more resources too

[meager valley]

Do liberated workers

[fallow grove]

Ok

[eternal palm]

Ouch

[meager valley]

Long term gains more important than short term

[fallow grove]

Turkey also has the same issue I ain’t getting their factories

[meager valley]

By like 1938-1939, you will get some more factories and resources from them. Takes time

[meager valley]

Because compliance low

[meager valley]

Can you click on a random Turkish state and look at the various stats that come up in the bottom left?

[fallow grove]

Then if you gotta wait till 1938 for it to be noticeable what’s the point of early invasion

[sonic sand]

this is the life

[fallow grove]

Says 1 compliance 72 resistance

[sonic sand]

sit back

relax

[fallow grove]

And it has 32 chromium which I get none of it

[sonic sand]

and argue with people about a video game

[eternal palm]

Exactly none. Also the problem with taking Romania and Turkey early is that Finland will get guaranteed. Its just better to not take them and just make 1 collab on Latvia and Estonia each

Baltics btw is a combined 40 civs

[meager valley]

Yeah because harsh quotas are terrible. They basically lower compliance and squeeze as much resources out but you still barely get any

[eternal palm]

💀

Omd get off harsh quotas when you don't have guns

[meager valley]

If I were you, I’d restart and just set all occupying armies to liberated workers. Liberated workers legit one of the best in game and is only for communists

[eternal palm]

Like u need guns in order to effectively quell resistance

[fallow grove]

I don’t have guns for any occupation laws

Soviet starts in deficit guns

[meager valley]

Just restart 😭

[eternal palm]

Yea then don't be on the most expensive one 🤦‍♂️

Your occupation law is eating your guns

[meager valley]

If you look at the state like I said, and hover over compliance. It actually tells you what % of factories and resources it gives

[fallow grove]

Ok so I restart

And do no garrison

[meager valley]

Way occupation works, is it needs full guns to gain compliance. If you don’t then your occupying army effectively can’t enforce anything

[meager valley]

Do liberated workers 😭

[eternal palm]

No 🤦‍♂️

[meager valley]

No garrison is legit just abandoning it to its fate. Resistance skyrockets

[fallow grove]

What happens if it gets to 100?

[meager valley]

The states legit rebel and break off from you lol

As a new country

[fallow grove]

If you capitulate them they come back to you as full compliance?

[meager valley]

As 0 compliance

There’s legit no reason to ever do that bc it basically resets your progress

[eternal palm]

Basically, you have an occupation law, that affects how non core territories act. You wanna keep resistance low and compliance high. For communist countries specifically, liberated workers is best because you get additional factories and resources and less resistance

[fallow grove]

Oh

I see

Thanks

[meager valley]

Basically resistance BAD, compliance good.

Gun needed

[heavy vigil]

Resistance isnt that bad

[meager valley]

You can also funnel all your guns into garrisons for occupation so they go there first, not your armies

[heavy vigil]

Unless its absurdly high

[meager valley]

Casey stfu sigma was going to let their states rebel, not helping 😭

[fallow grove]

I thought the higher the law the better it was I played Germany once and did forced labor everywhere and it had 0 resistance

[heavy vigil]

What you really want is more factories + resources usually

So like liberated workers, harsh quotas

[heavy vigil]

No

[fallow grove]

Brutal oppression also is good

[heavy vigil]

More compliance is better

[meager valley]

Higher laws are bad for compliance though. Like immediately you get more resources but over time less.

[heavy vigil]

Its just ehh

You can get above 100% factories and over 100% resources

[meager valley]

You always want more compliance growth than immediate rewards

[heavy vigil]

Which is good

[fallow grove]

Also another question if a state has 1m population why I can’t use their population

It will say only 2k non core

[sonic sand]

casey

[fallow grove]

Or something like that

[sonic sand]

can you rate my

[meager valley]

Personally I do civ economy or liberated workers unless my country gets daily compliance gain then I do others

[sonic sand]

uh

[meager valley]

Same reason, compliance

[heavy vigil]

No

Probably not

[sonic sand]

wait no

its a good idea

please?

[eternal palm]

Local police is slightly better than civ

[fallow grove]

If it gets to 100 I can use all their population?

[sonic sand]

i just want a rating by anyone...

[eternal palm]

Like manually building compliance is awful

[heavy vigil]

Idk why youre asking to ask

[sonic sand]

Introducing the colonial system, Ever wondered why making a puppet will just solve all the garrison problems? This changes that. Every puppet you have has a public unrest bar, The worse you treat your puppets the higher the unrest. Things that will up unrest would be, calling the puppet into a war, major casualties for that puppet in the war, taking troops from the nation, predetermined rivalry for example the Romanians will not take too kindly to having a Hungarian overlord unless its by focus. You will also be able to buy/sell, move land between or change what the puppet is producing (these do not apply if the player is a puppet). Buying puppets will give you the land and the autonomy level and civil unrest that the puppet had before. If the Civil unrest meter reaches 100% full the puppet will revolt which will give you a negative war support spirit and will force a choice to either put down the rebellions by force, grant an autonomy level to the puppet or giving it freedom. after a rebellion is put down you will get another negative spirit for war support and all non-expansionist powers will get a -5 opinion. revolts can also be political meaning that if the puppet has a specific support level for a party that isn't the party of the mother country the revolt will automatically be of a specific political ideology. While no-one will get involved in the war directly, expect to see soviet volunteers fighting alongside a communist uprising. If the ideology of the puppet isn't the same as the mother country you also generate unrest. There are measures to counter unrest some more diplomatic than others and all with their ups and downs which can be accessed through a new puppets tab. so go out there and use your puppets to your advantage. or to your enemies disadvantage.

just read through it and rate it outa 10

and if you have any feedback can i have it

[heavy vigil]

Play vic3

[eternal palm]

Most of it yes

[heavy vigil]

Better pupper system

[eternal palm]

Not all of it cuz its not your core

[heavy vigil]

Based on economic dependance

[sonic sand]

yeah but i want to rework hoi4 puppets rn

[fallow grove]

So how to core turkey?

[heavy vigil]

In hoi4 puppets are already usually bad

[sonic sand]

not play vic3

[heavy vigil]

And not worth doing

[sonic sand]

idk i use puppets a lot

[heavy vigil]

Unless you actually just dont have any manpower

[eternal palm]

That's why mods exist

And then let pdx steal your ideas with no credit given

[sonic sand]

i know thats why they exist i have a bunch of puppet based mods making puppets actually cool

where you can buy puppets and stuff

and transfer territory in puppets

and take factories from puppets

and also

uh

puppet formables

[eternal palm]

That's a vanilla feature lol

[sonic sand]

no like

[eternal palm]

Or like steal literally everything from your puppet?

[sonic sand]

steal

[meager valley]

You can use like 2/3 of their resources and like 1/4 of their population

[eternal palm]

Oh.ok so an excuse to not engage with resistance but get everything like a core cool

[sonic sand]

i rarely use it unless im playing hungary which has no factories

[heavy vigil]

You can take more than all in vanilla

[eternal palm]

Funfact: you can make factories from thin air at 100% compliance

[sonic sand]

no manpower and it takes like 20k mp to just take them

[heavy vigil]

War reps are funny like that

[sonic sand]

so its balanced

[fallow grove]

I did war reparation it won’t give all their stuff just 7 or 8 factories

[sonic sand]

i have a bunch of quality of life mods that make my life easy

without making my life too easy

[heavy vigil]

Hoi is easy already

I could just teach you some exploits to make life easy

[fallow grove]

So I think annexing is way better than puppet and war reparations

[eternal palm]

"QoL" yea I've heard that one before

[heavy vigil]

Wdym you dont need full compliance for it

You can get more

[eternal palm]

Semantics jfc

U know what I meant

[sonic sand]

i can spend political power to get guns and stuff but it also gives me debuffs to civ factories

[heavy vigil]

:3

[sonic sand]

and the political power is quite high costs

[heavy vigil]

sounds broken lol

[eternal palm]

Yea man, print guns from civs

Makes so much sense

[sonic sand]

its basically like using the trading system

but like

i actually understand whats going on

[eternal palm]

This is literally a vanilla feature 😭

[fallow grove]

Also the international market is useless the things u buy won’t arrive till 1940 🤣

[sonic sand]

yes

[eternal palm]

The International Market exists

[sonic sand]

this too ^

[heavy vigil]

Except it prob gives latest gun tech spawn ins

[sonic sand]

its like 200 pp for like 10k guns

[eternal palm]

Exactly

[heavy vigil]

Yeah thats intended

[eternal palm]

Oh lemme just spawn in 1929292 gun3

[heavy vigil]

Market is not that good

But you can use it

[fallow grove]

What how is that beneficial?

[haughty sail]

Its good for smaller countries

[heavy vigil]

its usually useless because a steady supply is better

[sonic sand]

me playing Hungary and having all my neighbours hate me and stop everything from getting in

[heavy vigil]

But if you really want small quantities of equipment its usable

Or rapidly need like guns

[fallow grove]

So what’s the point of using international market?

[heavy vigil]

Just put more civs on it

[sonic sand]

thats why this mod is better! because you get a small amount of guns for a reasonable price

[fallow grove]

They won’t arrive till months later if not years

[sonic sand]

well its not reasonable

[meager valley]

It’s pretty useful for cheesing civil wars or getting by as countries with bad starts. But otherwise it’s useless yeah

[heavy vigil]

Just put more civs on

Its the same cost

[sonic sand]

its like 200 political power....

[heavy vigil]

It doesnt take that long

[sonic sand]

for like 5k guns

[fallow grove]

How to cheese civil war in international market?

[sonic sand]

and like 100 political power for 500 of all the arty types

[haughty sail]

200 is not that big of a number lol

[heavy vigil]

Look

Play with the mods you want

But it can easily be abused/be OP and therefore it is

[crystal marsh]

anyone remember this

[heavy vigil]

Im happy it works for you

[sonic sand]

im just saying its not unbalanced and all the AI countries can also like use the system too

which i think is cool.

[heavy vigil]

Bloat mod cope

Tbh

[sonic sand]

bloat mod?

[meager valley]

It was really nice getting these tbh

[crystal marsh]

would be nice if ncns also had a dd calendar

💔

[sonic sand]

its not really cope...

its just a cool mod i like

[heavy vigil]

Like

People make that excuse so often

'ai can use the mod too so it isnt OP'

[sonic sand]

oh well i mean yeah ig so

i rarely use the mod

[meager valley]

Okay continent breakdown.

North America: 150 mil
South America: 107 mil
Europe: 470 mil
Africa: 150 mil
Oceania: 10 mil
Asia: 1.18 bil

(HOI4 continent pop at game start)

[sonic sand]

false.

[viscid stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397308567597486200/1425859661948780677/togif.gif

[meager valley]

Prove me wrong bozo

I just checked

[sonic sand]

i saw your comment on

the youtube

[viscid stirrup]

what youtube

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snipping-supertool-gif-19434006

[sonic sand]

core population

[sonic sand]

mongolia update something soemthing

[viscid stirrup]

?

what are you yapping on abt

[sonic sand]

on the youtube shorts for one of the paradox thingys

[fallow grove]

While someone is purchasing guns from me in international market do I get the factory they use to buy from me?

[viscid stirrup]

i never yapped about any horse rider update

[meager valley]

Yeah that is the core population

Enter game rn and count all the continents manpower

[viscid stirrup]

bro make afroeurasia 1 continent

[viscid stirrup]

is that me?

[meager valley]

Hell no

[viscid stirrup]

OHH

RIGHT

[heavy vigil]

What happened to yemen

[viscid stirrup]

yeah that must be me

[sonic sand]

you cannot attack my argument as it has been guaranteed by the UK

[meager valley]

Wdym

[sonic sand]

attacking my argument now will have all the allies declare war on you

[heavy vigil]

middle east is annexed by yemen no?

From what i remember

Because its a game continent

[viscid stirrup]

btw i am the uk so i can attack countries garanteed by me

[meager valley]

I annexed it as Tibet bc in the next dlc they core all of Asia including the middleast

[sonic sand]

if theres a middle east wheres the middle west!!!

[meager valley]

So no point having it separate

[heavy vigil]

So youre lying

[viscid stirrup]

iberian peninsula

[sonic sand]

balkans

[heavy vigil]

Tho asia is still around 1bil or so

[meager valley]

No, the entire argument started with talk about Asia as one country in the next dlc

And the middleast is Asia

[heavy vigil]

It isnt in game

In game its a seperate continent

[meager valley]

Then why can China and Japan core it in the next update?

EXACTLY

[heavy vigil]

I dont think they can?

[meager valley]

Look at the dev diaries 😭

They literally include the middleast in the formable

[heavy vigil]

Tbf i kinda skimmed over ahist

Itll be more fun to learn about in game i think

[sonic sand]

im happy because my baseball team is hopefully about to like win the championship of baseball.

[meager valley]

I’m just saying if they had a super continent at game start for next dlc. Probably would be based on that.

[sonic sand]

3-2 lead in a 7 game series

first team to 4 wins

[tepid crown]

Who’s your team

[nimble sparrow]

So in the new china PRC doesn't start with Yan'an controlled.
Is that a violation of historical facts, or did they not control it on 1 January 1936?

[heavy vigil]

They didnt control all of it

The current in game map isnt accurate

Eight years war of resistance mod is pretty accurate in borders

[eternal palm]

Oh god

[meager valley]

And tbh that Soviet debug is also inaccurate where it draws the European borders

[eternal palm]

Becaus china needs more cores obv

[meager valley]

Should end at the urals

[tepid crown]

Ofc

[meager valley]

We don’t exactly know what China can core yet. That’s Japan

[tepid crown]

Gotta pander to the rl Chinese so they buy the dlc

[heavy vigil]

Really starving on core pop when playing china

[eternal palm]

Not like what happened with Goe 💀

Will they make Tibet coreable?

[heavy vigil]

Core pop is so toxic btw because its an even growth rate

So like

Take a 1.5mil nation and a 3mil nation

[meager valley]

Coring Europe is pretty OP idk

[heavy vigil]

If they both go up 50%

[eternal palm]

Nah fam it's fine

[heavy vigil]

The difference will go from 1.5 mil to 2.25 mil

[meager valley]

What’s funny is the game fails to show anything above like 2.1-2.2 bil population

[heavy vigil]

And this is also why china is insanely busted if you play past game end times

Because your raw difference in core pop compared to the world increases a lot

[meager valley]

Still slower than rl pop growth

Wish continents and regions had proportional pop growth to rl

[heavy vigil]

Vick

[meager valley]

Like Africa should be 🤑

[heavy vigil]

Its probably slower than irl because its meant to be ww2

Population growth was pretty bad during ww2

[atomic grove]

they probably wont

[meager valley]

Nah but like why did HOI4 devs make African Union so unbearable and hard compared to other formables?

[heavy vigil]

China can core all of eurasia except tibet dlc

[meager valley]

Even if Africa unified by like 1938, would still be insanely weak economically compared to others

[eternal palm]

Yes

[meager valley]

Wonder what the new Mongolian formable will be like

[eternal palm]

Half of the factories of the entire Continent are in saf lol

[tepid crown]

I think Taiwan isn’t part of their core either

Which if true is very funny

[meager valley]

It’s just a bummer tbh

[heavy vigil]

It is rn

[eternal palm]

I'd say accurate?

[fading elk]

I just opened up the China front

Currently 3 months into my invasion of the ussr

[meager valley]

But if unified under a communist regime?

[eternal palm]

Or do you want pdx to just spawn factories in African states just cuz they want to

[eternal palm]

And 🤷‍♂️

So what

[heavy vigil]

Well the issue is

[eternal palm]

Factories don't spawn in

[meager valley]

Basically what the Soviet Union did irl 😂

[heavy vigil]

A lot of goods manufacturing like steel was in europe

But raw materials were from africa

[eternal palm]

You mean what the Soviet Union did in 20+ years?

[meager valley]

Meanwhile UK has like 4 mils spawn in from a decision

[heavy vigil]

And the game cannot model that rn

[eternal palm]

You want Africa to do in less than 10?

[fallen vigil]

SIBERIAN TIGER

HALLELUJAH

[meager valley]

Nah, just give them decisions for core land to make a factory. Like you’d legit develop individual states

[eternal palm]

No not like that I'm saying, do you want pdx to make a focus tree or a decision to suddenly turns Africa into an eco powerhouse

Or how do you want this to go

[eternal palm]

See thats better

[meager valley]

Should have the option to yes. Dude, chile can core the Americas, Japan Asia

[heavy vigil]

You can already do that its called releasing a million puppets

[eternal palm]

Yes that still doesn't spawn in factories

[heavy vigil]

They have a focus for that

[eternal palm]

Like those continents are just much more developed because there are more independent tag

[eternal palm]

Right

[meager valley]

Idk why you’re focusing on spawning in factories as if HOI4 hasn’t spawned in factories since 2016

[eternal palm]

Your contention is why Africa has so little factories no?

Well there aren't a lot of tags in Africa to build factories

[meager valley]

My contention is why is the African Union so much harder to form than other formables

[eternal palm]

Hence the count is lower

[heavy vigil]

2 civs in everyone in faction

For democratic path

Wholesome

[meager valley]

Should be easier to form imo

[eternal palm]

Well cuz its controlled by Europeans?

[meager valley]

Not take 40 years to core Africa

[eternal palm]

That's just the reality of it

[meager valley]

Even if you occupied all of Africa by 1936, would still take until like 1970 to core it all

[heavy vigil]

Beautiful

[meager valley]

Meanwhile, South America and Europe unify like nothing

[heavy vigil]

And its worth it

[heavy vigil]

Ok so debloat them?

[eternal palm]

See thats stupid

[tepid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

[eternal palm]

😔

[scenic spade]

wtf

why is this game so annyoing at late game

like

sorry

the front line making AI decided not to reinforce that area

and now your entire army is encircled

sowwy

[copper sluice]

does Oerlikon exist in this game

[sudden thistle]

Just micro

Duhh

[scenic spade]

i have 300 divisions under 14 generals

or something

too hard

[eternal palm]

Skill issue?

Look at your battles dafuq

[scenic spade]

i look

[north spoke]

Why micro when you could skill issue

[north spoke]

Real

[tepid crown]

It’s not hard at all wym?

[scenic spade]

the entire area is no supply

and i can barely see anything

[eternal palm]

Huh wonder why you lost

Maybe fighting in no supply is a bad idea

[tepid crown]

Next you’re going to tell me line arty is bad and I’ll say you’re being mean

[eternal palm]

Line arty is bad your fking special or smth

Now Im mean. Because I said line arty is bad

[marsh ravine]

Say fack instead

Cos it sounds like quack

And ducks go quack

[eternal palm]

Fack you

I sound like an australian

[marsh ravine]

And ducks can go fack themselves

Fack you too

[eternal palm]

Your mother is quite the rotundity

[marsh ravine]

I sleep with your father

[eternal palm]

Leave man's grave alone bro 😔