hoi4-general

[cobalt imp]

oh yeah i don't play mp but navy is prob better there

[paper echo]

for sure

idk about mp

i hate it

[cobalt imp]

is there any strategy in navy

like

aside from designing the ships

[paper echo]

all i do is make the design and just put my navy (except subs) on naval supremancy

and on always engage if my navy is good

[grizzled yarrow]

Ah yes navy

Non existent in the red army

[sudden thistle]

It’s not that bad

[paper echo]

i hate it cuz theres someone who has a trash device

and i dont wanna have to play for an hour just for spanish civil war to happen

and i just prefer playing alone and having my head clear

knowing i dont have any major to worry about

[cobalt imp]

i need to press pause and freak tf out for an hour when im being naval invaded

[eternal palm]

Yea duh it's called the red "army"

[paper echo]

on my mapuche state run argentina kept naval invading me and i had the same reaction every time

[grizzled yarrow]

Im gonna do some dark magic to make the ussr blue

[cobalt imp]

why would one ever subject themself to playing south america

[paper echo]

why not

[paper echo]

go to the files and change the ussr cosmetic tag rgb color?

[eternal palm]

Failing purge?

Cuz the civil war that fires is blue

[grizzled yarrow]

Orrrrr use colourize ur country mod

[paper echo]

theres a civil war if you fail?

i thought it was only pre nsb

[eternal palm]

Uh yes?

[paper echo]

i didnt know

[eternal palm]

What else did u think was gonna happen when paranoia reaches 90%

[paper echo]

idk

[grizzled yarrow]

Isnt that also available for the Trotsky civil war

[eternal palm]

What?

[paper echo]

who would be so dumb to actually fail it

[eternal palm]

Trotsky doesn't turn blue

[eternal palm]

I've never seen it in action

[grizzled yarrow]

The soviet union does

[sudden thistle]

I have never seen that actually fire

[eternal palm]

It usually doesn't?

[eternal palm]

I've seen it in pre nsb

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk my friend did the civil war and the soviet union turned blue

[sudden thistle]

Prob a no dlc moment?

[eternal palm]

But ye usually everyone manages the purge just some have absolutely cocked up

[eternal palm]

Prob

[grizzled yarrow]

No like

We had almost all dlcs except gotterdagmerung

[eternal palm]

Like, all gens are cowed, all the admirals are dead, no air force high command, Roko is dead and you have junior purges

Oh and u killed kalinin

[eternal palm]

My god how I miss this statement 😭

[cobalt imp]

bro how do u do napoleonic france

[eternal palm]

Wdym

[cobalt imp]

on the focus tree whjere do i go

[eternal palm]

Whats ur problem

[sudden thistle]

The uhh far right

[eternal palm]

Far right

[cobalt imp]

this

[eternal palm]

Do u have the lr dlc?

[eternal palm]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[cobalt imp]

ohokay

any tips

[eternal palm]

Take UK asap

Don't wait

[cobalt imp]

okay

[grizzled yarrow]

I still remember this

[cobalt imp]

so like as soon as i switch ideology?

[eternal palm]

UK is alive 😭

[eternal palm]

As soon as you get the war goal

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk how to beat uk as france

Atleast this early on

[paper echo]

isnt there also a strat where you reject rhineland and go to war to take down germany early?

i saw people doing it

[grizzled yarrow]

Yeah

[cobalt imp]

how does that put u in a war with uk

[eternal palm]

Concentrate your fleet in the channel.

[grizzled yarrow]

U put ur cavalry and motorized at the border and js crush the civil war

[paper echo]

i meant germany

[eternal palm]

Finish all capitals u start producing

[cobalt imp]

oh

[eternal palm]

Maybe make like 2 additional carriers

[paper echo]

which is good later on

[eternal palm]

There is

U need to fight a civil war though

[bright arrow]

If you take out Germany as france in 1936 the game is basically over

[paper echo]

yeah

which isnt hard

and the spawn on a small state

[grizzled yarrow]

Theres still the ussr tho

[bright arrow]

Ussr gets bent over by every ai

[grizzled yarrow]

Sob

[bright arrow]

Ive seen the USSR loose to the little entente

[eternal palm]

Well it's a strat to speedrun napoleon

Kill ger, then turn napoleon and kill UK

[paper echo]

ive seen italy lose to yugoslavia and romania

and romania got the puppet

[grizzled yarrow]

And to think they win against the germans in historical

[bright arrow]

That too

Italy and the soviets have horrible debuffs

And the soviets for some reason refuse to fix them

[eternal palm]

Italy less so

[grizzled yarrow]

Italy isnt that bad

[eternal palm]

Oh yea AI never does lessons of war

And picks the cav focus

[bright arrow]

Soviets always get all their generals and army advisors killed cuz they suc at the purge

[grizzled yarrow]

Big scary purge

[eternal palm]

I'm pretty sure Soviet AI is railroaded

So it's not too bad

[grizzled yarrow]

I lowk rlly like the comecom focus

[eternal palm]

At least they don't get junior officers purged unlike some players

[eternal palm]

Late game commie larp

[sudden thistle]

I saw a player Italy lose against AI Romania in a mp game

[paper echo]

bro i remember once comintern was renamed to cominform and i still dont know how that happened

[eternal palm]

Annexing is literally better 😭

[grizzled yarrow]

Sob

[paper echo]

💀

[eternal palm]

So there's no point to Soviet puppet mechanics

[sudden thistle]

The Italian player lost like 700k manpower against Romania

Another 300k with yugo

[grizzled yarrow]

I puppet most countries js to have some buffer zones

[eternal palm]

See that's the only instance in which I would puppet

But as soviets you kinda have a billion divs anyhow?

So I'd just annexing anyway

[grizzled yarrow]

Hm

I managed to get 300 before the germans invaded

But i gotta say

16w inf divisions are very nice

[sudden thistle]

How many tanks…?

[eternal palm]

Excuse me

You got 300 16w

By 41

💀

[grizzled yarrow]

Around 25?

[grizzled yarrow]

Er yeah

[eternal palm]

Mediums?

[sudden thistle]

Mediums?

[grizzled yarrow]

Yuh

Lemme show template

[eternal palm]

💀

[sudden thistle]

🥀

[eternal palm]

Not to fle- yea actually it is to flex

Untrained tds 😭

[eternal palm]

This is 50 heavy tds with 480 16w inf

[grizzled yarrow]

Design i kinda js left it at that 😭

[sudden thistle]

Ew green divs

[eternal palm]

😭

Bro what is this

[sudden thistle]

How is ur soft attack that bad

[eternal palm]

Fast tank designer?????

[grizzled yarrow]

No idea

[eternal palm]

AND A LIGHT GUN

WHAT

[sudden thistle]

A 35.2w inf div has more stats

[eternal palm]

My brother in christ you made it

[grizzled yarrow]

More reliabilty-

[eternal palm]

What for?

Just build supply?

[sudden thistle]

Reliability doesn’t matter

[eternal palm]

Yea nice rel when the tank doesn't have stats

[grizzled yarrow]

I mean i always use that template (and i forgot to produce mecanized)

[sudden thistle]

U can and will out produce the attrition if any

[grizzled yarrow]

Its what my friend told me to use

[eternal palm]

What about support 😭

[bright arrow]

With such a bad gun im not sure you need the 3 man turret

[sudden thistle]

Ur freind lowkey bad

[grizzled yarrow]

What support 😭

[eternal palm]

Oh so it's your friends fault now

[paper echo]

if yall think you are stupid remember that i made a tank division template and instead of training that i trained the base game tank template 💀

[grizzled yarrow]

Idk cuh i js always use it

[paper echo]

and then i wondered why the tank sucked

[grizzled yarrow]

Ok first teach me how u get 350 factories by 1941 🥀

[sudden thistle]

he civgreeds

[bright arrow]

Yk i always go with the flow as main powers

[paper echo]

as ussr do yall declare on turkey and get romania too or you play historically

[humble spruce]

wtf do i even do, they wont die

[sudden thistle]

Historically

[grizzled yarrow]

I only take finland

[humble spruce]

its been like this from 1940 its 1942 now

[paper echo]

i just declare on turkey

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[bright arrow]

Ive won by tag switching to the soviets when they were at 10M casualties and 96% capitulation several times

[paper echo]

and when winter war happens i dont do the white peace and puppet finland

[bright arrow]

Its a fun experience

[grizzled yarrow]

I did that once but i prefer to only rail finland cuz im a lazy bum

[sudden thistle]

They are actively dying

[bright arrow]

Ive seen ai do that on non historical and Turkey joins the allies

[grizzled zenith]

What if I do cavalry+tanks as a minor?

[eternal palm]

Get mountaineers get, cas

[bright arrow]

So I never do it

[sudden thistle]

It’s mostly bc of the capital supply hub though

[grizzled zenith]

Sounds interesting, never seen anyone do that

[humble spruce]

i killed 150 k afghans and they killed 300k japs idfk

[paper echo]

was it at the start of the game

[grizzled yarrow]

If u invade turkey first they wont join the allies since its too early

[humble spruce]

yea im investing

[eternal palm]

That's fine, check if u have access to camels

[paper echo]

also its non historical of course they joined allies

[eternal palm]

Camels are literally insane

[grizzled yarrow]

I invaded poland and they dint join the allies

[humble spruce]

yea that sounds good

[sudden thistle]

Lore accurate Afghanistan

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[grizzled yarrow]

Twin

[bright arrow]

Ive seen the Soviet Turkish war in early 1936 Romania and Turkey both join the UK and then Soviets got stuck at war with the allies

[grizzled yarrow]

How do get 350 factories by 41 brotato

[eternal palm]

More hp than mech

[humble spruce]

atp beating german on veteran is easier

[grizzled yarrow]

Ussr

[bright arrow]

Build them

[sudden thistle]

Yknow the difficulties don’t make the ai smarter

[grizzled yarrow]

I usually build civs till 39 and then switch to mils

[eternal palm]

Build infra in Moscow, Stalingrad, Ufa and Azerbaijan. Build civs till September 37, then mils, make the foreign experts company asap, hire American experts, take civ focus, take Tankograd

And don't call me brotato

[eternal palm]

😭

Yea no fking surprise

Efficiency cap? Never heard of it

[grizzled yarrow]

What infra

[eternal palm]

What?

[sudden thistle]

It just buffs them

And debuffs you

[sudden thistle]

Is the infra needed…

Think of all that ic u can use on civs

🤤

[eternal palm]

Bro it's 6 infra

That's 1 civ

[grizzled yarrow]

Sir this is new term to me 😭

[eternal palm]

INFRASTRUCTURE

THE BUILDI G

[grizzled yarrow]

OHHHHH

[eternal palm]

THAT MAKES THINGS FASTER

Jfc

[grizzled yarrow]

Well thats sum new

[eternal palm]

This reminds me of the guy that played 1k hours of hoi4 and didn't know that infra increases build speed 🤦‍♂️

What do you think the percentage number is for??

[grizzled yarrow]

Uh

Good question

[hollow narwhal]

some things just make sense.

[paper echo]

chat do yall think there is gonna be a secret nation this update

or a nation that will get content without paradox revealing it

[grizzled yarrow]

Fricking san marino

And people would still do world conquests with it

[paper echo]

i feel like manchucko will get updated

for sure

they cant leave it like this

mongolia could also have something

at least formable cuz i dont think it exists

[grizzled yarrow]

@paper echo u said u take turkey and romania at the start as ussr yes?

[paper echo]

yeah

i declare on turkey and it brings romania into the war

on turkey naval invade the coast

on romania i fall back a little bit but i keep odessa

so they die from supply while im taking out turkey

[grizzled yarrow]

Doesn't the uk guarantee finland when u declare war?

[paper echo]

for me it doesnt

but declare on finland before taking baltics

[grizzled yarrow]

U justify or use the focus?

[paper echo]

cuz france guarantees sometimes

[paper echo]

for what

turkey?

[grizzled yarrow]

Finland

[paper echo]

focus

[grizzled yarrow]

Alr so take finland first then baltics

Got it

[paper echo]

yeah

and reject white peace

[paper echo]

take karelia and puppet finland on the rest

but dont take petsamo

so you dont have another border with germany

[lusty magnet]

All of you have orginnal game of hoi4?

[grizzled yarrow]

I need to learn to get atleast 300 factories before barb

[eternal palm]

Not unless you somehow caused 25% wt

[grizzled yarrow]

💀

[eternal palm]

U can just leave Finland in 2 states bordering norway

[lusty magnet]

??

[eternal palm]

Wdym "orignial"

[paper echo]

as ussr i prefer puppeting

[eternal palm]

I mean puppet yes

Don't just leave them independent lol

[lusty magnet]

Phone keyboard...

[eternal palm]

U get a buff for peppering

[eternal palm]

...what?

[paper echo]

nah leave them on aland

and demilitarize

[grizzled yarrow]

One time while preparing for the russian civil war i was taking finland to do some accurate russian empire borders and when i cap it automatically white peaced em😭

[paper echo]

wouldnt be cool if there was a mod which was ww2 but in the tno universe?

[paper echo]

with tno lore accurate events,borders and stuff

[eternal palm]

Oh they did armistice funny

[paper echo]

what path should i do next

from toa or aat dlc

[hollow narwhal]

wait ..

something aint right

LMAO

[bright arrow]

Is this a puppet inception

[eternal palm]

...so just tno?

[eternal palm]

Oh that's funny

[paper echo]

yeah but not in 1960

basically tno backstory

[hollow narwhal]

only in 1984

[eternal palm]

So just hoi4????

Bruh

[paper echo]

i meant that it could have events and stuff that would lead to tno timeline

idk how to explain

like germany winning japan winning uk surrender and ussr collapse

[eternal palm]

So u wanna play for 20+ years?

[paper echo]

why not

alr did it in md once

somehow my pc still survives

dead chat

[tepid crown]

No

[cobalt imp]

which one

[tulip thorn]

Air dominance

[cobalt imp]

yea i was thinking

[paper echo]

wouldnt be cool if napoleon france could get cores on benelux and maybe on parts of northern italy

[tulip thorn]

If only the french focus tree was good

[paper echo]

exactly

if only luxembourg could core the world

[tulip thorn]

Luxembourg sucks

Albania is way better

[paper echo]

tuva is the best

[tulip thorn]

Tuva is overall mid

Albania literally solos

[feral ocean]

hey guys why cant i do sealion through naval invasion, when ive got total air and naval supremacy, like when i try to naval invade it says 0 divisions assigned

[paper echo]

is the equipment capture ratio 100% there?

[tulip thorn]

They have bunkers

[paper echo]

were the divisions you assigned already in another order?

[tulip thorn]

And a smoker in charge

[feral ocean]

I put them on costal defence, just so they will remain there, ready to invade

[paper echo]

thats why

[feral ocean]

do i have to unassign them from that order?

[paper echo]

yep

[feral ocean]

okay thanks

[misty fossil]

bro

[eternal palm]

HOLY WHAT

What mod is that

[paper echo]

isnt that old hoi4?

[misty fossil]

rt56

nah

[paper echo]

it reminds me of old hoi4 air

[eternal palm]

Rt56 with bloat again smh

Ass mod

[misty fossil]

hoi4 players trying to not downplay everything be like

[cobalt imp]

imagine attacking this bro

major river and lvl 10 forts

[paper echo]

doesnt rt56 add another equipment type you need to produce just to make simple infantry?

i hate it so much when modders fill their mods with 500 different equipment types just for 1 unit

[trim pike]

Free stats lmao

[grizzled zenith]

Should I use bold attack or theatre training?

Both are really good

[paper echo]

i use bold attack

[grizzled yarrow]

Lowk tought rt56 js adds research focuses up to like 1956 not 500000 diff equipment stuff u have to research

[paper echo]

i hate it so much

i hate hoi4 mods that bloat the game

and that sometimes causes lag

[grizzled zenith]

R56 has some interesting focus trees, Mongolia is very interesting, but it's unfinished I'm yet to see it's full focus tree, and Danzig was quite fun

Also Albania can form Egypt-Albania

And laws mostly make minors like Danzig more plausible to play as

[paper echo]

for focus tree its fine but i hate it bc of the bloat

i remember having to make another useless equipment for infantry

[grizzled zenith]

I mean, just ignore the stuff you don't need

[paper echo]

which i hated so much

[grizzled zenith]

I don't think it's there anymore if it even was in R56(I don't think so)

[eternal palm]

Oh no that's tfb

[paper echo]

eeeew

dont remind me

these mp mods annoy me so much

its more bloat than modern day mods

[grizzled zenith]

That's hard even to complete with MD

[paper echo]

except red dusk

[eternal palm]

Just play hmm

Or sheep mod

[grizzled zenith]

Hmm?

[eternal palm]

Vanilla mp mod

Just streamlined vanilla

[paper echo]

i wanna try it someday

but idk if im sane enough

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[paper echo]

i heard it hard

[eternal palm]

It really isnt

Non historical sheep is fine

[spare laurel]

Do you guys Think Yugoslawia will get a rework?

[grizzled zenith]

The AI is smart, Japan beats China by 1940, the Allies aren't utterly useless, the AI uses good divisions, if you're good enough that's just more defence+micro

[eternal palm]

Historical sheep is kinda hard though

[grizzled zenith]

Hopefully, they should've made a Little Entente DLC instead of just Czechoslovakia

[spare laurel]

yeah

The focus tree looks like nothing special

[grizzled zenith]

But even as it is now, Czechoslovakia is the worst focus tree out of the Little Entente, Yugoslavia and Romania can do a lot of stuff

[grizzled zenith]

Yugoslavia can core most of the Balkans and get some really good divusions by breaking down at least

[mint adder]

Its a year in on this server

[spare laurel]

hmm

[grizzled zenith]

But that's the only interesting path

[paper echo]

yeah thats why i said it

after my last non hist games i dont wanna play non hist

[fading elk]

So u guys think I should attack the allies next

[eternal palm]

U haven't even annexed czechia yet 😭

U have 143 factories

The allies are gonna murder you

[safe wing]

Annex Czechoslovakia

[fading elk]

I can’t

[safe wing]

Why

[fading elk]

I don’t have gotter

[safe wing]

Oh

[eternal palm]

Huh?

Autonomy system???

[safe wing]

Then annex them via the old technique

Lend lease

[fading elk]

I’ve been trying to but it’s been ages

[eternal palm]

Lendlease convoys

[safe wing]

Send em everything

[fading elk]

Also the allies are fighting a death war vs China

Guess I will then

[safe wing]

Whose winning

[fading elk]

No clue

Communist China joined the allies

So the united front is vs the allied now

[safe wing]

LOL

[fading elk]

Also how does regular colony hierarchy work

As in what way does it need to be so I can annex them

I just sent them 100k guns

[safe wing]

You have to get them down to annex level

[fading elk]

And what is the level right before it

[safe wing]

Integrated puppet

[fading elk]

Wait if I make Czechoslovakia free and declare war on them would the allies gaurentee them

[safe wing]

Don’t you have a descion

[stone mango]

wait if i a lend lease someone i can annex them???

[safe wing]

Where you can lower autonomy

[safe wing]

Yes

[stone mango]

does it need to be a puppet or just a country

[safe wing]

It has to be a puppet

[stone mango]

ok

[fallow grove]

Imagine capitulating because a random German landed in Paris

[fading elk]

Truly the perfect world map

Balkanised the western ussr

Brough back monarchy

[wheat python]

Transylvania is Romanian land I'm sorry bud

[grizzled yarrow]

yall how do i get more metal sob

[wheat python]

Infrastructure

[grizzled yarrow]

or steel whatever

[grizzled yarrow]

thx

[fading elk]

I would have given it back but they thought it was a good idea to flip sides when they had 1 div

[wheat python]

Build road where you have steel

[marsh ravine]

excavation tech

[fading elk]

Also hey another random

[wheat python]

R a n d o m G u y

[fading elk]

This is the second time I’ve seen a random

[wheat python]

Yeah it's actually not that rare

I only have it because I couldn't think of a name

And by the time I did everyone already knew me as random

So I never bothered to change it

[tulip thorn]

You got another random, while im still waiting for richtofen, nikolai and takeo to show up

One day, one day

[fading elk]

Same

[solemn bay]

This a juicy encirclement?

[eternal palm]

Damn

[wide osprey]

no devviary today? 🥺

[sudden thistle]

Wait

[safe wing]

Just wait man

[misty fossil]

when the imposter is sus

[safe wing]

I get the reference I don’t get the context

[misty fossil]

there's no relation between what i said and the image

im just that brainrotten... sorry

anyway

[safe wing]

Yeah I get that

[brave steeple]

what am i looking at

[misty fossil]

the british isles

[crystal marsh]

🗣️

doing better than my fellow ally

[safe wing]

Charles Marx being the Communist leader of Luxemburg makes too much sense

[crystal marsh]

my goal

i swear germanys so weak

[zinc light]

Kleptomanic Kurdistan is surprisingly fun

[weary mantle]

Poland shall never surrender

[zinc light]

steal everyone's guns with the equipment capture focus, infinte manpower because commie, good army modifiers

[somber agate]

go around france to get into belgium 🗿

[versed rapids]

imo world would be a better place if one country existed

and one race

one skin color

one to rule them all

[indigo violet]

._.

pretty sure a guy from the 30s tried that

[zinc light]

one color, to rule them all

https://tenor.com/view/d-gif-2374314719452959720

[versed rapids]

stalin

[small panther]

That ez btw

[crystal marsh]

yeah i figured

i thought itd be harder

[indigo violet]

[crystal marsh]

but ever since luxembourg got a second tile its been as easy as it gets

[small panther]

With the democratic its hard

Because of Manpower

[versed rapids]

we all know the superior race is the asian one tho

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-gif-284632875632280687

[stone mango]

it is ether a bug or i just got lucky. The allies just fallen apart after the war

[neat kayak]

Another GG

[crystal marsh]

looks sick

paradox trying not to modify the china map every second

[versed rapids]

atleast it'll be easier to defeat china

[eternal palm]

They haven't done so in almost 8 years?

[versed rapids]

Ok og 🥀

[eternal palm]

Smh bro doesn't remember when wtt launcjed

[vital quest]

Like 2018

[versed rapids]

game's older than you 🙂

[eternal palm]

U called me og

Lil bro

[versed rapids]

ik

youve been playing since you're born

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195572031522095115/1405096003287257138/togif-53.gif

[crystal marsh]

dont get me wrong im not complaining

but like

make up your choice

😭

[versed rapids]

olmg

of

im sos sorry

[eternal palm]

[versed rapids]

that was the wrong gif

[eternal palm]

I saw that

Jfc man

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[vital quest]

[crystal marsh]

literally for the commie china dd sichuan was still independent

[vital quest]

Commie China is so tiny now

[crystal marsh]

lowkey i was hoping theyd remain independent, given how theyd be a great warlord for conquering china through border clashes

[versed rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870446544455864330/1419197517798572172/IMG_0403.gif

you ^

[crystal marsh]

due to its decently large size and amount of neighbours

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233936964173172776/1278218861040111690/togif.gif

[crystal marsh]

but what wouldnt you do for the sake of realism

[eternal palm]

Do u really think pdx still gives a shit about realism 💀

[vital quest]

They better give them like 10 buffs

For ts

[crystal marsh]

i mean they did modify the china map multiple times

[eternal palm]

Yes that's usually what happens when things are wip lol

[crystal marsh]

but youd expect the map to be final when its made public for the first time

[eternal palm]

They did say it's wip so 🤷‍♂️

[crystal marsh]

thats fair

[mystic zinc]

If someone could make a revolutionary mechanic for hoi4 that would be crazy

[eternal palm]

Same with the faction things

[vital quest]

When they make stuff public it's probably wip

Just to gauge the communities reaction

[crystal marsh]

somewhat improved manchu tree

[trim pike]

That was a

Interesting…

[mystic zinc]

Instead of Full Blown Civilwars,It could be made of by City by City uprisings and then finally as Government Building falls,Whole country falls into hands of revolutionaries

[trim pike]

Gif

[eternal palm]

Bloated 🥱

[trim pike]

Theyre having fun lol let them have bloat

[crystal marsh]

they couldve done a full rework instead of a filipino tree

[lapis snow]

better this than giving them the swiss/turkish treatment

[crystal marsh]

literally the only reason behind that addition is the large playerbase in the philippines

[sudden thistle]

I hate those trees so much

[crystal marsh]

nothing against them ofc, but thats just money greed

literally id go as far as to say that not adding a fully reworked manchu tree is criminal

[eternal palm]

Switzerland is fine wdym

A bit complicated

But fine

[crystal marsh]

switzerland is too railroaded

[vital quest]

Bloat of iron 4

[eternal palm]

Is it?

You got lots of options

[crystal marsh]

you must play at least 10 test runs before discovering the meta for just one path

[eternal palm]

That's what every other path is too?

That's the same for every single nation

[tepid crown]

Someone yesterday told me all these new dlc aren’t bloated

[eternal palm]

If u wanna meta game ,you need to test

[crystal marsh]

im usually good after like 2 test runs on other nations

[vital quest]

Just wait for someone to find the meta

[eternal palm]

Switzerland just takes more then 🤷‍♂️

Not really a difference

[eternal palm]

Lazy ass

[eternal palm]

Lmao

Critical thinking truly isn't hoi4 players strong suit

[tepid crown]

It really isn’t

[lapis snow]

What I meant was having a tree that is slightly bigger than necessary but offers flexibility is better than the slow and bizarre design used in Turkey and to a lesser degree the Swiss trees. Where there's a million exclusive branches, so the overall tree you get to use is small

[indigo violet]

Where the hell are the new dlc‘s bloated?

[lapis snow]

modifiers mainly

[mystic zinc]

If someone could make a revolutionary mechanic for hoi4 that would be crazy

[lapis snow]

content wise they're about average for the price point for pdx but the replayability and QoL is poor

[trim pike]

Have u seen the new doctrine thing btw

And how they will change the meta kinda

[mystic zinc]

Civilwar mechanic is kinda outdated It feels

Since you know,State by state uprisings can somewhat be boring

Instead we could make it expand by province to province

[lapis snow]

my favourite, tedious minigames

[safe wing]

Hey Baba Trois

Its me Big Al

[crystal marsh]

DID IT

[safe wing]

I changed my un and pfp on this server as a joke

[eternal palm]

I've seen. Kinda busted

[lapis snow]

ahoy

[safe wing]

I’m going to get a coffee at my favorite local coffee shop soon

[sudden thistle]

I will give it a try

It looks cool

[tepid crown]

How bad

[eternal palm]

Uhh +20 max entrenchment on gbp?

[tepid crown]

What is it currently

With gbp R

[eternal palm]

No no that's in addition to the regular doctrine

There's like additional modifiers now

[tepid crown]

Oh

Interesting

[sand arch]

hey guys, i just downloaded the game, and want to learn how to play it.

should i watch a youtube tutorial first or try to figure it out on my own?

[eternal palm]

Do both

Watch some beginner guides and try and play on your own

Take youtube as theory and in game as practice

[tepid crown]

Also play tutorial

[sand arch]

which nation is the best for beginners

[eternal palm]

Just play germany

Trial by fire

[tepid crown]

Mass assault Soviets

[eternal palm]

Shush

I need disasters to play

How else am I gonna get to 7k hours

[trail beacon]

r8 my ai slop mod

[tulip thorn]

ai/10

[eternal palm]

U can't even tell that they are those people 😭

You can only barely infer

[tulip thorn]

Hitler look so kawaii

[eternal palm]

He does though 😭

Stalin too 😭

[tulip thorn]

Mussolini looks like a anime dad

[eternal palm]

HE DOES

[tulip thorn]

FDR looks like 18 years old

[trail beacon]

he has serious protagonist energy

[sudden thistle]

👉 👈 😖 could I have Czechoslovakia

[tulip thorn]

Mussolini is giving protagonist more tbh

[eternal palm]

Churchill is el generico politico

[tepid crown]

Play EaW and be happy

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

Play EaW:

[tepid crown]

I meant Empire at War

[eternal palm]

See I got it

I got like 200 hours in that shit too

[tulip thorn]

Empire at war is propaganda and fake

[tepid crown]

Just started playing a new clone wars mod for it

[tulip thorn]

Does not exist

Fake news

[eternal palm]

Other than fall of the Republic?

Which one is it

[tepid crown]

Yeah, awakening of the clone wars

[eternal palm]

Ohhh cool imma check it out

[tepid crown]

It’s pretty crazy, has like almost 200 planets

[eternal palm]

Holy cpu

In a game from 2006 😭

Can we just get a new engine atp

[tepid crown]

My game lags in the menu and when I increase the speed

[eternal palm]

Ouch

[tepid crown]

Everything else is fine though

Space battles are actually the smoothest part

[eternal aspen]

Damn, i'd love to play it

My rig is from like, 2013, so it will run it way better

[eternal palm]

I mean 1 core can only do so much

[eternal aspen]

Like how i can run Crysis 2 on max settings at 60 FPS

[fringe shell]

39 start is just to easy

[eternal aspen]

These games were designed to run on one or 2 cores

[eternal palm]

Is eaw 1 or 2 cores? I'm pretty sure multi core was only a thing after 2007

Same reason why hoi only runs on 1

[tepid crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[eternal aspen]

Idk i'd have reinstall the game

[eternal aspen]

Pretty sure, lemme procrastinate getting outa bed and I'll get a check on my FPS running the clonewars mod you said

[eternal palm]

I checked its single core

32-bit processing

[tepid crown]

My desktop is from 2022

[eternal aspen]

Ah, my pc might shit the bed doing it

I have an i5 4430

[rigid bolt]

is this the up o date version

to*

[eternal palm]

Well, does steam say you're in a beta?

Or did you intentionally roll back?

[eternal aspen]

Check your launcher, it'll tell you

[eternal palm]

If not, then you're on the newest version

[eternal aspen]

But the checksum will be off, meaning MP is an issue

[rigid bolt]

alright

[eternal aspen]

Idk it looks odd to me

[rigid bolt]

yeah it wont let me join games for being on a different version

[eternal aspen]

I also haven't seen thr current vanilla checksum

[rigid bolt]

no betas are selected

[eternal aspen]

Yea, try disable any mods and try again, if that doesnt work then verify game

[eternal palm]

That might be due to mods they're using

[rigid bolt]

alr

[rigid bolt]

where do I look from the launcher

is it here

kinda js the same thing

[eternal aspen]

Yea, so look in your playsets tab

[rigid bolt]

no mods are selected rn

imma try join a server that says it has no mods

[eternal aspen]

Ok

[eternal palm]

Yea if you're trying to join random lobbies that show up in the multiplayer tab, chances are that they use mods

If you wanna join mp games, get into vc with the people that are playing, don't just join random ones

[sudden thistle]

Random games are something else

I once saw a Italy kill Ethiopia in 1939

[tepid crown]

Based

[eternal palm]

Play France or Poland and just fast game Germany

[tepid crown]

Mass mob france build

[eternal palm]

End the game within an hour :wicked:

[tepid crown]

Literally RB in most tournaments

[sudden thistle]

Funny thing, that dude was in vc with me the entire time 😭

[bright matrix]

How do you do well in the MP and humiliate everyone?

Like, as if more unpredictable

I'm hungry for victory

[eternal palm]

Mass mob>>>>>>

[sudden thistle]

Will mass mob solve my lack of girlfriend

[eternal palm]

Yes

[bright matrix]

Your girlfriend is public property

[eternal palm]

Mass mob your love

[eternal palm]

Ayo 💀

Ok dude

What the fk are you on about

[bright matrix]

I'm kidding

[tepid crown]

This is true, I played mass mob Brazil once and now have a gf

[bright matrix]

Dude, don't take what I said seriously

[eternal palm]

Good.

[bright matrix]

I'm just kidding, have a good day

[eternal palm]

Cuz it isn't funny

Get better material.

[bright matrix]

Sorry man, I don't have a girlfriend.

😭

[eternal palm]

I can tell

[silent oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cease-stop-no-halt-sign-gif-15645304

[bright matrix]

Listen to Brazilian music

Xenophobia

Joke

[silent oxide]

keep it appropriate and in english please.

[eternal palm]

I suggest you stop talking.
For your own sake.

[tepid crown]

Should make minimum age for the server 18

[rigid bolt]

he

is speaking english?

[eternal palm]

Don't start arguing with the Mods 💀

[bright matrix]

I will stop talking about lewd and molested subjects

[eternal palm]

Isn't like discords age limit 16 or smth?

[bright matrix]

Trevosa High Performance Matters

[rigid bolt]

Bro

I'm not trying to argue

[eternal palm]

🤦‍♂️

[rigid bolt]

he spoke english the entire time

[tepid crown]

Honestly, no clue but these edgy teenagers are annoying

[silent oxide]

brazilian link

(portugese)

[eternal palm]

I mean you are on a hoi4 server

[rigid bolt]

but like

[bright matrix]

I'm not edgy

[eternal palm]

Hoi4 is only played by 14 year olds

[bright matrix]

I am a ton

[rigid bolt]

it's just a link he didnt start encouraging the usage of the language or something

[eternal palm]

No not at all :clueless:

[bright matrix]

Old rat

Shit

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[rigid bolt]

I think the tos is 13

[bright matrix]

Why did I receive a warning?

[rigid bolt]

I mean

[eternal palm]

Yea man really do wonder why

[rigid bolt]

the mods here seem a bit

[eternal palm]

Jfc

[bright matrix]

I'm 15 years old.

[tepid crown]

You not knowing why is the issue

[bright matrix]

Oh

[trim pike]

[tepid crown]

We know

[rigid bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444

[sudden thistle]

That should happen, but like after I turn 18

[bright matrix]

How do I convince someone to play hoi4?

[eternal palm]

Jfc

[silent oxide]

[tepid crown]

You can always leave

[rigid bolt]

why do you keep saying jfc

[rigid bolt]

ok

[bright matrix]

The boys in my class only think about girls

And reproduction

[eternal palm]

Because this guy is making a fool out of himself

[bright matrix]

Nobody has qi

[eternal palm]

With 0 self awareness

[sudden thistle]

We don’t need to know that

[rigid bolt]

and

what does jfc mean

[eternal palm]

Look it up, can't say

[bright matrix]

Automated reproduction, offspring farm

[brittle cypress]

Jesus freaking Christ

[rigid bolt]

who tf abbreviates that

[eternal palm]

If u tryna get banned u can just leave

[rigid bolt]

what did he even say

[eternal palm]

I'd honestly recommend it atp

[eternal palm]

You seem to be illiterate

[trim pike]

[rigid bolt]

does the word re-production scare you

[silent oxide]

coz automod will get you for it

[tepid crown]

You two have zero common sense

[rigid bolt]

ok

I dont speak in here

ever

so I didn't know that

[silent oxide]

wise

[rigid bolt]

you people like to whine a lot

like

[tepid crown]

Yes, my job

[rigid bolt]

respectuflly

[silent oxide]

Sir. This is a general chat. thats what its for.

[rigid bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dishonored-ok-and-gif-meme-game-gif-25237640

[daring geyser]

singleplayer in general is just too easy

[silent oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[rigid bolt]

I just find singleplayer boring asf

but I have no friends who play it and I am not playing with random ass strangers

[daring geyser]

singleplayer is really boring yeah

[spiral salmon]

Yknow, just asking is this fanbase consist of either larpers or weirdos...?

[daring geyser]

i got a mp server if you're interested in getting into it

[inner jewel]

Yeah if you only make space marines and other armored divisions

[sudden thistle]

Both

[daring geyser]

i never made space marines once in hoi4 and i have beaten the ai every time

[spiral salmon]

Cant believe its actually true

[eternal palm]

Eh most of them are fine. The small minority is usually the loudest anyhow

[daring geyser]

you dont even need to make meta divs you can beat the ai with pure infantry if you want to

[eternal palm]

But yea can't deny some of yall are weird

[tepid crown]

Like we just saw

[rigid bolt]

weirdos probably

[eternal palm]

Mostly cuz u don't know what the fk is going on

[spiral salmon]

Mfw i use inf againts germans

[eternal palm]

Due to you being kids

[daring geyser]

both

[rigid bolt]

kids play video games?

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-family-guy-memes-family-guy-what-family-guy-cartoon-guy-gif-6686214689091073387

[bright matrix]

How do I humiliate my opponents in hoi4?

[eternal palm]

Who would've fking thought

[spiral salmon]

How is kid able to afford a hoi4 game let alone all the DLC?

[eternal palm]

God are you special or sum

[bright matrix]

I'm tired of always being humiliated in the mp

[eternal palm]

Parents?

[rigid bolt]

did you watch

the gif

it was sarcasm

[sudden thistle]

By winning

[daring geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283596000576929828/1425983303273676892/togif-3.gif

[rigid bolt]

Clearly you're the one with no common sense

[daring geyser]

by making a meme image about them

[sudden thistle]

There is no special way

[spiral salmon]

I have to get a job to even buy this game

[sudden thistle]

Just win

[eternal palm]

You know what an allowance is?

[rigid bolt]

nvm it was him who said it

not you

[eternal palm]

Same

[rigid bolt]

nvm

[spiral salmon]

Im not white enough to understand this

[eternal palm]

Is it really that surprising that parents buy video games for their kids or five them an allowance?

[daring geyser]

im not a kid however i am broke, and my friend gifts me 25£ occasionally, and 1 british pound here in brazil is like 5 reais, but she gifts me it through steam so i basically just spend it on hoi4 dlcs

and other games

[rigid bolt]

like

25 pounds into your bank account

or steam wallet or smth

[daring geyser]

steam wallet

[rigid bolt]

alr

[daring geyser]

else id have not spent it on hoi4

[spiral salmon]

Im asian sincr when tf i had the privileges

[rigid bolt]

I was abt to say lol

[spiral salmon]

All the gifts i got is thank you for being my child

[bright matrix]

My arms start to sweat, the mouse touch becomes imprecise and velox

When I play Hoi4

I get nervous

And with anxious thoughts

[daring geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432038965183119602/1432039134431543568/2025-10-25_19-18-53.mp4?ex=6901941f&is=6900429f&hm=0f54897e6b1f1899861b6df5191843471a53c019009fd755fb8d0ba5b478ac19&

this you?

[bright matrix]

?

I'm not that bad at hoi4

[daring geyser]

nothing this clip is just really funny so i send it at every opportunity

[bright matrix]

I'm just bad at producing and forming corporate templates.

[daring geyser]

no the joke is not that they are bad but the fact they are screaming

[bright matrix]

I'm a very pragmatic person at hoi4

[daring geyser]

they were actually doing really good considering its multiplayer

[bright matrix]

I just do what needs to be done.

I'm not in favor of Hirohito, but I would support him if he got something in return.

My name is Cadet Luca

[spiral salmon]

I like using arty superiority, very fun soft dmg

[bright matrix]

Your name is highly biased, you carry the name crusader and Chan, even though you are neither a templar nor Japanese.

You are wrong

[rigid bolt]

are they celebrating one encirclement or something

[spiral salmon]

Dont bring my name on this...

[bright matrix]

Sybuy

[daring geyser]

it's all of the spain players' tanks

so yeah

[sonic sand]

Nerd spotted @viscid stirrup

[uneven raptor]

hey guys, what are some essential DLCs for a beginner of hoi4? I wanna buy some

[spiral salmon]

Maybe i should've just stick to single-player....

[safe wing]

Bro uses light mode

[rigid bolt]

a grand total of 2 tank divisions

wow

ew communism

[sonic sand]

Its on YouTube

[daring geyser]

its why spain tank builds suck 😴

[sonic sand]

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME

[safe wing]

Me?

[sonic sand]

Yes

[sonic sand]

YES YOU

[safe wing]

Nothing

[rigid bolt]

Istg the only country I can play is italy every other country is either
Steamrolled by the germans (e.g France)
Hard to play/Complex (e.g Japan, UK)
Boring asf (e.g Any minor nation)

[bright matrix]

I know

[trim pike]

@tough patio Dont ask qns that will easily lead to political discussion

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-days-without-nonsense-gif-26130271

[tough patio]

sorry bro

[daring geyser]

i think for sp every country is easy, some are just insanely tedious and might take some tomfoolery to win as

[trim pike]

Never a boring day here

[trim pike]

Its fine just saying

[tough patio]

@trim pike what is your opinion on... whatever the hell this be

[trim pike]

Old ui?

[spiral salmon]

this place is filled with crazy people, which i should honestly expect it

[rigid bolt]

I've only learnt the basics to playing sp is a big enough challenge for me but ngl I can see it becoming repetetive once you know the game

[tough patio]

why old ui?

[trim pike]

But interesting

[rigid bolt]

I actually fw the USSR in terms of military/technology

js not the ideology

[trim pike]

Its the top buttons thats all

[daring geyser]

just learn a couple of the meta templates and have green air then you win all of the time, and funny enough for the ai sometimes green air can be optional lol

[daring geyser]

as long as you can micro

[trim pike]

Interesting war too

[tough patio]

ussr military was interesting (and incompetent at some times) but a whole lot of stuff about the country happens to be extremely intertwined with politics which should be avoided

[sudden thistle]

Is this bad

[rigid bolt]

naval doesnt even look THAT hard to learn

[trim pike]

lmao

[tough patio]

bolivarian tuva and neutral cpc vs axis dai li roc and the eastern roman empire

[bright matrix]

Rate my friend

My skin

[spiral salmon]

Dont think you can punch thru that ngl

[safe wing]

Russian civil war

[bright matrix]

Massacre

[safe wing]

Nice

[bright matrix]

How did you guess?

[trim pike]

Who is this

Who fumbled that badly

[safe wing]

Just by looking at the uniforms

[daring geyser]

that's multiplayer

[daring geyser]

it's not really a fumble considering its 1944

[rigid bolt]

since when did this tab exist

[daring geyser]

germanies usually kill sovs faster than that in semicomp mp

[rigid bolt]

and these are laid out differently

[daring geyser]

but it was me and my friends, it was one of my first mp matches

[daring geyser]

almost a year ago iirc

[bright matrix]

One question, to make a design, just click on that blue button that makes a design recommended by the game?

[trim pike]

Oh i thought sp

[bright matrix]

Or is that bad?

[trim pike]

Makes more sense yea

[trim pike]

Nice

[spiral salmon]

Naval? Go ahead, tanks? No

[rigid bolt]

man where tf did all of this come from 😭

[tulip thorn]

I remember this

[sudden thistle]

Cooked

Even Steiner can’t save that

[daring geyser]

we were literally like "not one step back.. cowards and traitors will be shot"

[bright matrix]

My state where I live is equivalent to Georgia (note, I live in Brazil)

[terse wigeon]

Disney should sell the rights to make the next jedi survivor game to Rockstar

[daring geyser]

btw @tulip thorn me nd my friend opened up a mp server recently

its p chill if you wanna join

[terse wigeon]

wait wrong channel

my bad gang

[tulip thorn]

Maybe, I have been wanting to get back into mp

[daring geyser]

yeah dw you wont get harassed at that server

im making the server specifically so that doesnt happen

[tulip thorn]

Alr

[spiral salmon]

Im never getting into a multiplayer server experience am i

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-my-little-pony-cartoon-gif-11238854

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-philosophy-twilight-sparkle-mlp-gif-15205550013486968731

[spiral salmon]

Ill just go ahead and waste my time on Esquestria mod and just spam planes

Feeling silly today bombing some griffionians

[tulip thorn]

Atleast bomb some changelings instead 💔

I mean.... Dont bomb anyone thats not friendship

https://tenor.com/view/drink2-gif-6141879685012473169

[spiral salmon]

I dont think id see any faction that isnt monarch or democratic as "freindship"

[daring geyser]

not if you join mine

[spiral salmon]

Can i join?

[daring geyser]

ill think really hard abt it

hmmm

yeah

[spiral salmon]

Yippie

[tulip thorn]

That was a really hard think

[daring geyser]

indeed

think im burnt out over it

[tulip thorn]

Dont think too hard, your head will explode

[spiral salmon]

Dayum

Head gone poofed

[daring geyser]

check dms cuh

[spiral salmon]

Anyway off to annoy silly italian griffin as a pony

[tulip thorn]

[spiral salmon]

(im gonna have to fight 3 griffin nation and somehow won)

[craggy trail]

I recently got promoted in Equestria at War as both a Community Helper and Contributor

[tulip thorn]

What is a contributor?

[sonic sand]

mhm same