hoi4-general

[remote quarry]

also, change your garrison law to something other than military governor

put it on local police if you want to minimize losses

yes

[warped flint]

and using local police force

[left shard]

u probably push into an even terms soviet with just infantry with relentress attacks right?

[remote quarry]

yeah, and put 100 on guns

i mean if you are only pushing with inf, what else would you be making apart from guns

[warped flint]

Its not even the damn germans killing me

[true needle]

any occupation law above local police force is kinda bad, excluding that one law italy gets for specifically africa

[remote quarry]

well that's part of the issue

[warped flint]

its the bohemians spamming like 7 divs per tile in random areas

[left shard]

push with tanks to create pockets and reduce the number of soldiers then after they are weaker do the big push with infantry

[remote quarry]

then you should have that amount by danzig

[true needle]

its a shame you cant use the colonial law for any place outside of africa

[left shard]

build civs day 1

[pearl jackal]

yo whats a good paratrooper template to sealion uk

[warped flint]

Yay

[remote quarry]

what really helps you in later games is making collabs on the allies

basically all your eco could come from france/poland

make at the very very least 2 collab on poland and 2 on france

[warped flint]

Oh dear god

[remote quarry]

yes

[molten moat]

anyone wanna 2v2?

[remote quarry]

la resistance

[warped flint]

I think ima remove that line arty

[remote quarry]

well then harsh quota everything

the day 1 you take it

still give you like half of the factory

[pearl jackal]

yo whats a good paratrooper template to sealion uk

[remote quarry]

i mean usually it's hard to say why people end up with so little factory

i never know

[warped flint]

YES

[true needle]

if you like to spend 9 billion infantry equipment on garrisons

[remote quarry]

yes ofc

[remote quarry]

it doesn't even cost you more guns because you kill the resistance

and you get 25% industry for free

after you annexed europe?

did you ever click the price control decisions

ah

ok, so your spirit called mefo bill, it means you have a growing consumer goods factor each month

which doesn't really matter, until it reaches 100%

you have a bunch of decisions unlocked by the price control focus

when you do the focus you want to click all the decisions

[warped flint]

I have slowed them down but I am still being pushed somewhat

[remote quarry]

yes

you can mouse over the decision and see

each one of them gives you a reduction in consumer goods factor

[warped flint]

Yeah im dead now

[remote quarry]

it's permanent

they just cancel out the daily increasing consumer goods

[warped flint]

Why did the uk kick me out of their faction

I literally did nothing

[remote quarry]

you just put the repair on the bottom of the queue

price control?

then you would be sitting at 100% consumer goods at danzig

and gg

well read what the game tells you

also after you take france, poland... you get decisions called take gold

which further reduce your consumer goods

yeah

you should be able to get at the very least like 200 mils

when you go to war with soviet

even with no collabs

also don't forget to go total mobilization once you are at war

harsh quota on everything

make sure you have enough guns to garrison

(set garrison on high priority)

[brittle sorrel]

is there a cheat to make victoria leader of germany?

[remote quarry]

on deployment tab

you can see how much stuff you are missing if you hover over garrisons

(also where you set them on high priority)

yes

[acoustic grove]

whats the best division template for germany

[warped flint]

Right when the situation turned around

fun

[acoustic grove]

i dont play HOI4 much, need a solid template i could probably use all game

[remote quarry]

it's one-time clicks

so you want to click all price controls immediately once you have it

[warped flint]

Why does the game always do this shit to me

I just turned the situation around

But no

romania has to join the axis!

For no reason!

[remote quarry]

yes, that's exactly the point of the system

for golds, technically you don't want to click them all at once but without collabs i really don't know how to do it

just capitulate everyone fast i guess

@heavy vigil another FYP L

[heavy vigil]

huh

[heavy vigil]

without collabs you click day 1

[remote quarry]

again for some complicated i don't wanna explain without spy dlc it would explode somewhat equicker

I think like late 41?

but you should have won the game by the time

[left shard]

2v2 commanders need 1 person

[bright arrow]

Go forward!

[left shard]

pls someone join commanders

pls

[bright arrow]

Hey cool

If you kill fascist Italy in the civil war and you had capped Ethiopia you can annex both in the peace deal

So long Ethiopia in the allies

[warped flint]

who should I play as nowe

No

[golden cosmos]

czechoslovakia

[agile perch]

ROmania

[warped flint]

Ill do romania first since I never played them before

[golden cosmos]

its crazy that this is possilbe

[heavy vigil]

Yeah around that

[valid prairie]

Does grand battle plan only work when u battle plan or is it still decent when micro managing?

[kind vale]

I never knew you could just invade poland in 1937

[remote quarry]

planning always apply when you attack

[valid prairie]

Ok but in a hypothetical where I don’t get any planning bonus would it still be decent?

I always use sfp but I want to try something different

[brittle cypress]

you shtill get planning bonus when you micromanage

if you don't get any planning just pick another doctrine

[kind vale]

Yes it would, bc it also has the 2nd most org bonus

[compact hare]

What does LALC stand for?

[kind vale]

Let Austria lend cows

[compact hare]

Seriously. Im new and need help with navy, and this was put there. That did make me laugh a bit tho

[kind vale]

I got no clue what it means

I've also never seen it

[compact hare]

Heres the screenshot I got it from

[kind vale]

Light cruiser ig

Some aircraft carriers with some good but cheap capitals and alot of cheap screens would work for a mavy

[compact hare]

Isnt that called “roach screens” does little damage, has little health but cheap af?

[brittle cypress]

light attack light cruiser

LALC

[kind vale]

I got no clue, I put the cheapest engine and worst gun on my screens

[compact hare]

Ty bro

[misty fossil]

me looking at people who call light cruisers LC and not CL

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-aro-volturi-judgemental-judgement-gif-8953718906480917425

[kind vale]

Light comes first so

[misty fossil]

nuhuh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cruiser

[kind vale]

But it still comes first in the name

[slim nexus]

What CL stands for anyway.

If the meaning is the same, what is the problem.

[bright arrow]

The uk just randomly guaranteed me dispite hating me lmao

[sharp sierra]

in real life or in game

[bright arrow]

What ahha

[kind vale]

Real life

[minor needle]

guys just let me crack the egg

[brittle cypress]

CL is just the convention ingame

idk man

why are heavy cruisers called CA

[minor needle]

thats actually really deep

i didnt know that

[kind vale]

Capital attack

[brittle cypress]

BB is battle boat

[kind vale]

No it stands for bigger boat

Cv stands for continental view

[worn coral]

the hell?

why didnt the soviets start pushing back

[half ferry]

the AI is like that

why are you in the COmintern?

[worn coral]

im not

[half ferry]

ah well odds are the soviets are defecit in equipment

are you at war with the Germans?

[worn coral]

yes

[half ferry]

plant fake intel in them

use the fake divisions to plan a landing into Germany

[worn coral]

how do i do that

[half ferry]

Shift+W (spy network view)

[worn coral]

yeah but how do i plant fake network

[half ferry]

with enough intel coverage in germany, you can do it, idk if you need to infiltrate the army or if it's available without it

[solar tundra]

does anyone here play hearts of iron

[half ferry]

I am like, half wondering if you're joking or not

[quartz canyon]

For those of you who play The Great War Redux, how should divisions be built differently compared to base game? Would a division of 15 infantry and 2 field gun battalions for 36 width work?

[half ferry]

yes, in TGWR until you get to interwar/ww2 doctrine (normal hoi4 doctrines) you want more Combat Width

it helps combat the defence and entrenchment from the great war doctrines

[atomic grove]

hes probably talking about hoi1

[quartz canyon]

Ok thanks.

[atomic grove]

either that or its just bait

[half ferry]

ofc, that mod is kinda falling off with them purging the non-historical paths from some countries

idk which countries however, i haven't played the mod since 1.14 and after they did that i've been iffy about playing it for that reason

[solar tundra]

This invasion of Brazil is taking 6 years

With 500 divisions and 10000 planes deployed

[brittle cypress]

does anyone here play hearts of iron

[brittle cypress]

my only knowledge of that mod is that apparently guns suck, and artillery is where it's at

try something like this

(stolen from someone)

[quartz canyon]

That has pitiful org.

[half ferry]

that could be why

[brittle cypress]

org is a myth

why do you need org if you win every battle immediately

[half ferry]

press f4, if anything is blue, orange, or red, that means it's got no supply

[solar tundra]

10 modern tank 8 mechanized 1 modern aa 1 modern spg support artillery assault eng motorized recon, logistics company, support anti tank

[half ferry]

that and red box syndrome

[brittle cypress]

yes i like to do less damage for longer

[sharp sierra]

does anyone herea ctually play heart of iron im just wondering if you guys just only watch youtube or what idk . \

i dont have a pc

[solar tundra]

i have 300 of these divisions and 200 regular 3x3 infantry

in brazil

[brittle cypress]

are you out of supply everywhere

[solar tundra]

They're all getting yellow lights against the brazilians

[quartz canyon]

Also, I’ve played through a play through as Austria and the ottomans and if you’re not an industrial powerhouse you are never in a million years sustaining that.

[half ferry]

a majority of us do

[half ferry]

yea you've got no supply

[sharp sierra]

not me

[half ferry]

you need less divs

[viscid coyote]

Aura right here chat

[solar tundra]

i have supply from transport planes, venezuela, and the iraq occupied ports

[brittle cypress]

that doens't answer

[solar tundra]

(im. germany)

[viscid coyote]

That’s good

[solar tundra]

its 1970

[viscid coyote]

Wow

[half ferry]

show us your f4 view

[solar tundra]

Brazil declared war in 1965

Ive had to increase from volunteer only to limited conscription

[solar tundra]

what is that

It's all blue except for on the front line area

I build rails and supply depot on every tile they push into

[slim nexus]

Oi

[half ferry]

what colour are the frontline provinces?

[solar tundra]

yelloe

Too many men

[half ferry]

yea

bring the frontline to like, 100-200 men

[solar tundra]

millions have died

[half ferry]

especially in the amazon

[digital crypt]

How?

[half ferry]

what mod, cause that's impossible

you'd have to be at war with them for that

[half ferry]

once you get more coast, like central-north brazil, you can bring more divisions over

[solar tundra]

I have 500 there

[digital crypt]

im germany and i occupied romania, but my puppet somehow got those occupations

[half ferry]

oh, did you peace-deal romania or not yet?

cause odds are they capped to hungary since it's a core state

[digital crypt]

Not yet, but it would be funny if I my puppet could keep that

[half ferry]

that's what happened then

[solar tundra]

My american puppet and the dutch and Belgiums have put a lot of divisions in Brazil as well

[half ferry]

do you control the land or an ally?

[solar tundra]

Iraq occupies the land

[half ferry]

okay, you'll need to naval invade to be able to prevent AI from using the supply

other than that you're basically gonn ahave no supply

[solar tundra]

how much can a railway support

[half ferry]

uhh, good question, idk those values

[warped flint]

How do you win the finnish civil war

[half ferry]

what do you start the civil war with?

[warped flint]

South finland and 6 divisions

they get like 14

[half ferry]

focus on pushing the railways

it cuts off their already limited supply

[warped flint]

They just won't die I swear

[half ferry]

check to see if they have any national spirits that increase surrender %

[warped flint]

They randomly died

[half ferry]

lmao valid

[craggy trail]

[craggy trail]

I guess you are Finnished

[compact hare]

What engagement rule do you set for your spotting cruisers?

[half ferry]

depends, CA or CL?

[compact hare]

Wait what do those stand for. Sorry, I am new

[craggy trail]

Typically do not engage

[compact hare]

Wait why. It says that if it is set to that, strike forces will stay at base?

[half ferry]

light cruiser (CL) are screens like DD, and Heavy Cruiser (CA) are Capital Ships

[craggy trail]

You can set task forces to differen engagements

So you can keep your main strikeforce on always engage

And your spotting cruisers on do not engage

[compact hare]

Oh, tysm.

[half ferry]

capital ships you want on engange on moderate, and your screens engage when overwealmingly stronger than the enemy

[viscid stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1328736658350407752/1431824037696372846/image0.gif?ex=68fed18c&is=68fd800c&hm=ab0364edcfacdf83a830d39318ebe579061a390e4355659c1339cfce0c2417ed&=&width=788&height=700

the imposter is calling

[brittle cypress]

nuh uh

everything on always engage

win a decisive battle

imperial japan was meta

[half ferry]

that is just... no?

my 1940 hulls might evaporate the AI now

but 1.17 will change that

i'm not excited for the naval change, but i know that it means i'm gonna have a problem with naval bc the Ai will be better at making a hochseeflotte

[warped flint]

Is 48 infantry divisions as finland good enough to hold against the soviets

[viscid stirrup]

bro 12 infantry divisions is enough

[warped flint]

oh.

[viscid stirrup]

pack up the bags vro ur going to the eastern front

[warped flint]

Some red

think its fine if I lose a tile or two

[coarse willow]

this exact map brings me back

i used to play fascist finland so much when AAT came out

id speed run annexing the nordics

[warped flint]

Okay im confused cause I am definitely losing

[coarse willow]

its so fun but now i can never play finland again

[slim nexus]

GG

[warped flint]

They got stopped

I was just losing tiles they were able to attack from like 5 areas

[brittle cypress]

what are you talking about

bigger fleet always beats smaller fleet

[half ferry]

Tell that to my ASW design

[glacial juniper]

@bronze raven

[half ferry]

4x1940 DD with full ASW mortars manages to sink a 40 stack of subs if they dony leave

[half ferry]

What mod is that?

[drowsy arrow]

What is this guy on

[glacial juniper]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3319185964&searchtext=Convenience+Mode

this

like tno

[drowsy arrow]

You need 10 even if it’s 1 per tile and you need naval garrisons

[half ferry]

Nice, it looks good ngl

[lone sail]

bruh this used to give a leader trait

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-car-buff-imposter-among-us-impostor-gif-6333245066570212250

[bright arrow]

Socialist Italy game is weird

[compact hare]

Are 1940 heavy ships good?

[bright arrow]

They are better than the 1936 ones but worse than the 1944 ones

[compact hare]

Ok then. Also, can you recommend any videos with designs?

[bright arrow]

No but ship designs are pretty straightforward. Just spam whatever you want out of the ship and ignore the rest

Or if you want more realistic designs you can add all the little things to your liking

Whatever you make will always be better than the Ai anyways

[compact hare]

Ok ty

[half ferry]

is this democratic or monarchist germany?

[lone sail]

mitteleuropa path so both

[half ferry]

bc in my monarchist game i never got one for wilhelm 3

[lone sail]

it gave the leader the "sword of islam" trait

[half ferry]

yea i've never seen that before

i've only done monarchist once, and i refuse to play democratic after PTSD from pre-WuW germany

[lone sail]

it works with monarchist

[half ferry]

i can't check to see if i have it on my save until i get home in about 20 hours

[dusky burrow]

RIP Chiang

[silk fern]

hoi4 if stalin got hit in the head with a piano and forgot which georgia he was from

[half ferry]

Mfw Georgia and Georgia swapped

[random delta]

guys is democratic germany tuff and should i do a democratic germany run

[half ferry]

Its one of the most OP germany paths

Probably even better than fascist

Simply cause you can core most of europe

And you basically become what the UK wants to be

Guarenteeing everything

[random delta]

are you talking about gotterdamerung or base

[half ferry]

WuW

base hoi4 fascist is better than democracy, but that's better than monarchist

WuW added communism path, but that path is basically just the CNT-FAI without the spanish civil war problem

it's on-par with democratic for how OP it is

[random delta]

whats WuW and how much does it cost

[half ferry]

WuW is Gotterdammerung

that's the codename for it

WuW = WunderWeapon, since it added the new experimental weapons

basically all other DLC have shortform of the full name

WuW being the only exception so far, with the new DLC gonna be a 4 letter codename, ike BoTB, NSNC (No Surrender, No Comprimise!)

[brittle cypress]

GDR?

Gotterdammerung

I’ve never heard anyone say WUW

[half ferry]

nah, this is PDX code

[brittle cypress]

oh

[half ferry]

in the focus trees

has_wuw = true

means you unlock content for having the DLC enabled

most mods nowadays don't even use that, it'll just show that Gott is required to use the mod

not having it breaks the mod, same for NSB, MTG, and BBA, as well as any DLC that adds new features

[dusky burrow]

This is a game I once played

[craggy trail]

Honestly, the worst peeve I have when playing China is when Communist china just comes in and joins the Allies

[half ferry]

OMG YES i hate that

that, or the nationalists join the allies and PRC joins Axis bc they're in a war together and that's how this game works

[dusky burrow]

Oh yeah that's awful too

[dusky burrow]

My mom got really angry after finding out I was laughing about this

She said something to the effect of "a fiction story made Japan go to war with China in WWII, you got that, a fiction story"

Of course, yeah, no

[craggy trail]

Litterally I'm at war with the allies. I took the Japanese navy for supremacy over the islands

I need to take out the last remaining warlords and that achivement will be finished

[dusky burrow]

What's going on with Indochina and Burma

Why are they occupying Cambodia

[craggy trail]

Raj pushed into Burma

I could probably go Fascist china and join Germany

I don't actually know if i need to control or occupy all of china for it to count

[half ferry]

What achievment?

[half ferry]

yea, i remember being told about how people believe the 2nd world war actually started in 1937 with the 2nd Sino-Japanese war, and how it was actually fake and China and Japan have always lived peacefully

[dusky burrow]

I think you misread

[half ferry]

almost definitely

[half ferry]

uhh, you need to be a warlord state

[dusky burrow]

The idea is someone wrote about a fake Sino-Japanese war in 1937 and then as a result the Japanese government got convinced to start a Sino-Japanese war in 1937

[half ferry]

meaning any chinese state that isn't PRC, CHI, or a Japanese ally (Including Japan)

[craggy trail]

I am a warlord state. Guangxi Clique

[half ferry]

ah, never knew they could become China

[dusky burrow]

Of course this isn't true

[half ferry]

you need to own all of the chinese cores, including the treaty ports

so it is better to go fascist, especially if using Historical AI

[half ferry]

yh, so ig guangxi is the best bet for it

you have amazing supplies on day 1, you have the ability to annex the larger chinese leader state, and you go to war with japan even if you don't join the 2uf

plus with a coastline, you can start developing a small navy, so you get a little headstart compared to yunan or Sinkiang

[craggy trail]

Everyone but sinkiang

[half ferry]

Shanxi is bad too

if you go 2uf then you're stuck at war with Japan until the end

and XIbei is as bad as sinkiang, without the benefit of being able to join the comintern for security

guangxi is the only real tag to be able to play the achievment without suffering

[craggy trail]

Ok. Two more months for truce and we're going to war on the remaining warlords

[half ferry]

nice!

[heavy vigil]

Yunnan:

[craggy trail]

I really don't want to be up this late

again....

[heavy vigil]

You should go to sleep tails

[half ferry]

yh you should

[azure palm]

How much Collab do you need for the new regime modifier?

[half ferry]

full collab means when you cap them you can do it almost right away

[heavy vigil]

2 or 3

90% compliance

[half ferry]

but it's 80% compliance

[heavy vigil]

You cant get that

Critical success is 45%

Regular success is 30%

[half ferry]

true, they have a lot too, but they lack the coast to start an early navy to try jank japans fleet

[azure palm]

I mean when you like airdrop a nation you can then set up a collab govermeant instantly I think. But how much collab you need for that idk

[heavy vigil]

Its the 'new regime' part of occupation

This is the same everywhere and you can see in your occupied territories tab

[fickle thicket]

peak china

[azure palm]

yes, you get that event as soon as they capitulate

[heavy vigil]

Collabs directly are compliance

30% collab is 30% compliance

[half ferry]

yea it's a collaboration with the people there, basically saying "hey, here's why you should support us"

collab governments

[azure palm]

instresting. Every time I airdrop france with collab I instantly get the event "provisional govermeant in france"

[half ferry]

yh, when you get 80% compliance you get that event for capped nations

under your occupied lands you can see what % gives you what modifiers

[azure palm]

I know, but the compliance cant be that high so I can establish that, right?

[half ferry]

idk ngl, i haven't done collabs in so long

[azure palm]

To be fair, in early game collabs save a lot of world tension so you dont instantly get ebargoed and that the democratic nations dont instantly guarantee others

[half ferry]

Do they? I never noticed

[half ferry]

Again:

[heavy vigil]

You can

Collabs go up to 100%

[half ferry]

So i have missed any new updated to them since like, 2023

[azure palm]

Ooooh, that makes sense

[half ferry]

But you can only do 3, you can get a minimum 90% (30% × 3 tries)

[heavy vigil]

What you should do is establish vichy france, then make a collab after

[azure palm]

I dont know if you missed götterdämmerung but you did miss Graveyard of Empires

[heavy vigil]

And itll annex vichy france

[azure palm]

I play italy

[heavy vigil]

i forgor

[half ferry]

I play the game

I just dont use most of the spy content

[heavy vigil]

Actually no you can get 100%

Because success is either 30% or 45%

But usually 30%

[half ferry]

Yea, but minimum 90% with bad RNG, max is 135% theoretically, with a hard cap at 100%

[dusky burrow]

I believe collabs are dependent on game seed

And also the probability of 45% is 33%

[half ferry]

I use the infiltration and the Intel divisions, thats about all I use for the spies

Since idm pushing, once you get pushing the plan isn't to stop unless you meet any actual resistance or a large river

[craggy trail]

40 days and the americans are island hopping

If any one of those marines take a japanese core, I think I'm done for the night

[signal silo]

what is up chat

[craggy trail]

Yeah. I'm done. I don't want to continue this game anymore

Maybe another time.

Everything just crumbles apart at the end

[heavy vigil]

According to @hidden spruce yunnan is best for this type of stuff

[hidden spruce]

Why ping

Also Yunnan pog

[craggy trail]

I have to own the state which means I need to get it through the peace deal

[hidden spruce]

Isn’t that the achievement anyways?

[craggy trail]

So I wasted my time fighting the other warlords for this

[hidden spruce]

Oh are you at war with axis

[hidden spruce]

The warlords are free

Just don’t be at war with Japan

[heavy vigil]

China warlord discussion so i can bother you

[hidden spruce]

Yunnan mentioned

[craggy trail]

Communist China joined the allies

Right when I was capitulating Japan

[hidden spruce]

Take the warlords before Japan

Take them right as you flip to real china

Japan will even help you

[craggy trail]

I’ll need to think about it in another game

[hidden spruce]

What path did you take

[craggy trail]

Cooperate with nationalists

[hidden spruce]

• flip fascist?

[craggy trail]

Nope

[hidden spruce]

You should do that

So your not at war with Japan when you flip

Also if you want 5 research slots + army advisor you should start as Yunnan

Because they have fascist support

So you need to spend less pp to flip

But the timing is weird

[craggy trail]

Thanks for the info. I’m really out of energy. So I’m heading off for the night.

[hidden spruce]

Dw

Good night

You should go sleepy sleepy

[craggy trail]

Have a good one

[desert rampart]

Holy tuff

[hoary kelp]

How to play in mods in the last 30 years like hamas or free army (last war) etc

[paper echo]

millenium dawn has it

[lime crystal]

Only 143 score😭

[hidden granite]

what should i do

[fallen vigil]

who tf disliked this 😭

[scenic spade]

howgod the designers should be free

they are so important

without mods its just

do you have more planes then the enimy

okay you win

[arctic abyss]

hi gng

im the best hoi4 in player

[safe wing]

How many hours?

[copper cobalt]

That's irrelevant

[safe wing]

Yeah IK I doubt that they are the best

[trim pike]

If u rush plane tech u win too

[trim pike]

No such mods

[copper cobalt]

Nono why would he lie

[trim pike]

Terrorist mods are banned from steam

Like

[scenic spade]

well the enimy has 3.85 million more planes

[trim pike]

Instantly

[safe wing]

Ego

[scenic spade]

why is hezbollah and taliban in MD

[copper cobalt]

Also would probably be hard to emulate like

Insurgencies

And guerilla warfare

[safe wing]

The only terrorism in hoi4 that I can think of is the IMRO

[tulip thorn]

Well doesnt exist, but if you want a modern day mod theres a few

[copper cobalt]

One mans terrorism sort of thing cuz Stalin does go after the terrorist cells

[safe wing]

And the Brazilian insurgents too I forgot about them

You can even put them in power if you go communist

[wicked haven]

arms against tyranny worth?

[safe wing]

Yes for the MIO’s and special forces

[copper cobalt]

Oh

I don't have that dlc so idk

[paper echo]

depends.do you have the previous dlcs?

[wicked haven]

I have BBA MTG and NSB

[safe wing]

Basically bandits fighting in northern Brazil

[wicked haven]

thinking for AAT and Gotterdammerung

[paper echo]

bbg?

whats that

[safe wing]

You either get rid of them or put them in power if you go communist

[wicked haven]

BBA*

[paper echo]

oh

then yeah get it

[scenic spade]

whats that

banana banana apple

[safe wing]

Communist Brazil isn’t even that bad of a path

[paper echo]

by blood alone

[safe wing]

Given you get more cores

[scenic spade]

ok

[wicked haven]

is Gotterdammerung even that valuable besides the special projects

[safe wing]

If you like Germany, Austria, and Hungary than yes

If not then no

[paper echo]

it has good focus trees

but nothing else important

[safe wing]

Except for Belgium and the Belgium Congo

[paper echo]

havent played these

so idk how they are

[safe wing]

Belgium is medicore

And the Congo is bad

[oak mantle]

6 widths for the win

[paper echo]

only thing i saw with belgium is that you can change names 500 times in 1 game

[misty fossil]

belgium is fun if you wanna do a last stand against germany

[oak mantle]

Excuse me?

[wicked haven]

Does La Resistance rework France ?

[paper echo]

it adds alt hist

[oak mantle]

Have you seen the hard attack bonuses for belgium?

[safe wing]

I have

[oak mantle]

You get like 25% hard attack bonus not including generals or advisors

And the MIO

[safe wing]

It just that I feel limited

[oak mantle]

To what?

[safe wing]

Playing Belgium

[oak mantle]

Belgium has a lot of room for expansion

[safe wing]

Expansion

[oak mantle]

It depends on your play style

You could play a colonisation game

Invade iceland or something

[safe wing]

True, Burgundy and Belgica

[oak mantle]

And france

Then after france go take iberia or something

[safe wing]

Belgica was a Roman province though

[safe wing]

So western Roman Empire

[oak mantle]

Pretty much

Belgium can be very fun on multiplayer if you ally with germany especially

Since you can roach in the benelux and make tanks

[safe wing]

Belgae were a Celtic people living in modern Belgium

Which is were Belgium gets its name

[oak mantle]

What part of celtic

[safe wing]

Kinda there own celtic group

[oak mantle]

They immigrated to belgium?

[cedar lance]

3 weeks LEFT guys till the Next new dlc expansion releases

[safe wing]

Original inhabitants

[oak mantle]

Oh okay

[safe wing]

Before the Romans took them over under Caesar

[oak mantle]

What date

20th?

[cedar lance]

yes 20th november

[oak mantle]

Ok

[cedar lance]

yes

[safe wing]

Nervi are my favorite Barbarian faction in Rome 2

And they are a Belgae tribe

More a confederation

[oak mantle]

Idk much about stuff that far back in history

[safe wing]

Fair though Caesar made a name for himself conquering Gaul

And later the civil war against Pompey and the Senate

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[safe wing]

He even had a world war 1 style battle against Pompey

Battle of Dyrrachium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dyrrhachium_(48_BC)

@oak mantle

Trench warfare in ancient times

[oak mantle]

Oh sick

[safe wing]

Caesar lost despite loosing less men

[fickle thicket]

god cant wait until mtg is finally intergrated into base game

another meta i get to study

[oak mantle]

Crazy

[safe wing]

He won the war though until he got stabbed 37 times

I’m playing a Rome game rn

Though I’m in the camillan era of the Roman army which is 290 years before Caesars time

[oak mantle]

Weakest chinese army

[safe wing]

Don’t invade Korea

Historical joke btw

[oak mantle]

Its just an org wall so they cant attack me

Then when i get mass mob ill like

Just battleplan

[safe wing]

China tried to invade Korea in the 600s and got crushed

[oak mantle]

Oh

Qing china?

[safe wing]

Like 500k men dead

[oak mantle]

Or was that not a thing

[safe wing]

Sui dynasty

[oak mantle]

Oh

[safe wing]

1000 years before the Qing

[oak mantle]

Yeah i only know qing cause of ww1 hoi4 mod

[steel summit]

whast the best path for poland?

[oak mantle]

Positive KD

[safe wing]

Monarchist

You get rid of the two bad spirts in 70 days

Monarchist paths from worst to best are Cossack , Commonwealth, Hapsburg, Hohenzollern, and Romanov

[slim nexus]

Rookie numbers

In one of our worst battles we lost 70k Romans

[heavy vigil]

Hearts of Iron V

[vast stone]

.

When DLC shall come out, I will play as Northeastern Army

[broken sky]

romanov monarchist path

[safe wing]

agreed

[broken sky]

just... friggin awesome

you can eat germany before '40-41

[broken sky]

orgwall... my beloved...

(-50k infantry weapon deficit)

[wide osprey]

why would anyone on earth place 1 battalion separately 😭

[wispy grove]

Communist

You can ask help from soviet union

But it might take some time

Since you will become peasants republic of Poland, against sanationist Poland

And then you will become communist

[cedar lance]

is there gonna be new ship types in the Next new dlc expansion?

[wispy grove]

Maybe

[cedar lance]

alr

[atomic grove]

romanov and hohenzollern paths

[quiet vessel]

nuclear submarines

my inside guy told me

[wide osprey]

repair ship and support ship at least

[wide osprey]

well it is already a thing

[fading elk]

So got nukes for the first time

First few times were handy but I find even with around a dozen used on the front nothing much changed

I’ve used around 20 so far on Japan and their allies in Asia

Around this map except Japan snaked go the Caspian Sea

[trim pike]

Yes Thats nukes rn

More larp than effective

[safe wing]

It’s the second weakest and unviable on non historical

The civil war weakens you + no free country

[fading elk]

Aww sadge, I know if I bomb the mainland twice Japan will surrender if they have less then 40 ships

I’m just waiting for the stupid big kreigsmarine to actually sink their navy of 90

[safe wing]

If you want a good communist path USA , Soviet Union, and Brazil are better

[coarse willow]

The US and Brazil? 😭

[safe wing]

Yes

[coarse willow]

i mean brazil could but its still not great but the US communist path sucks

[safe wing]

Insane manpower bonuses

[coarse willow]

i mean sure its not that fun

[safe wing]

But yeah its pretty bare bones

[eternal palm]

For a country with 150 million pop it's pretty useless

[safe wing]

True

[coarse willow]

you do get really strong after uniting south america but theres just not much to do

[safe wing]

Trostky path is fun

[coarse willow]

except wc or help the soviets

[safe wing]

USA is boring

[eternal palm]

It's also low key busted

[tepid crown]

Yes

[eternal palm]

Not cuz of wc but because you get insane research buffs

[safe wing]

You do have to fight a civil war though

[coarse willow]

the nordics have decent communist paths, so does germany and the alt communist soviet path

[safe wing]

But yeah it’s overpowered

[coarse willow]

its not hard at all

[paper echo]

speaking of trotsky has anyone noticed that ai trotsky russia gets insanely powerful?

[eternal palm]

Not really. It's pretty easy if you start in odessa and if you convert the army to aa beforehand you can just snake

[coarse willow]

get rio and naval invade the south

[paper echo]

whenever the ai does trotsky they are way more powerful than stalin ussr

[eternal palm]

It really isn't

[coarse willow]

ohh nbm

nvm

[eternal palm]

Weaker than stalin

[paper echo]

in my games they are more annoying to deal with

idk why

[safe wing]

IK

[eternal palm]

Prob increased surrender limit when they finish the final focus

[safe wing]

Its just that civil wars weaken you

Yes it’s easy

[paper echo]

maybe that and cuz they also form a big ass faction

[paper echo]

at least on my games where the ai on non hist always goes commie

[eternal palm]

Yea. For example if u do tsarist civil war you are a good 100 factories short of what Stalin would have

[safe wing]

Exactly

Its me Big Al btw

[paper echo]

and if you play hist its almost impossible to survive cuz you dont have time to prepare against germany

[safe wing]

I just changed pfp’s because I’m almost full time

[paper echo]

it mostly depends on how fast you do civil war

[eternal palm]

And I've observed that Germany just goes in a year early if it thinks you're weak lol

[safe wing]

On another server my un is wage slave Charlie

[eternal palm]

That said its marginally harder

U just can't do tank build anymore

U need to do mass mob

[paper echo]

really?havent noticed

i remember germany declaring so early after gotterdammerung released

[paper echo]

like 5-7 months earlier

[safe wing]

They attacked me as late as 1942 one time

[eternal palm]

For me it was like march 1940

[safe wing]

But thats because I spammed infantry

[paper echo]

bruh

[safe wing]

Like I had 210 divs or something

[eternal palm]

That's nothing what

[safe wing]

As the Tsar

[eternal palm]

Even as trotsky I have like 360

[eternal palm]

Still

[oak mantle]

Cause it effects nothing in hoi4

[eternal palm]

That's so little

[oak mantle]

No such thing as a deficit in china

[paper echo]

chat how hard is mapuche state

i wanna do it

[upper viper]

This profile pic is one of the best things I have ever seen from our species

[oak mantle]

Ty

[eternal palm]

It's alright

[safe wing]

It is only if its not ai generated

[eternal palm]

Pretty hard in comparison to other paths

But once u beat Argentinia its easy

[paper echo]

alr

i saw that you can just naval invade argentina

[tulip thorn]

I swear

67

[oak mantle]

Reminds me of the blue smurf meme in the forest

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/realistic-cat-smurf-meme-funny-gif-5895795080802392404

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195828404897984593/1430007648194920498/attachment.gif

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[tulip thorn]

hello

[cedar lance]

wassup tank

[rain loom]

question im playing as democratic germany how common is it for italy to get the Balearics

[cedar lance]

i always buy purchase order and negotiate licenses as ESTONIA

[vapid bough]

didnt expect horthy to be this chill

[spice turtle]

yo guys when developing the nuclear bomb i took the option to get one bomb early so i could nuke berlin but the option to use it isnt there?

[atomic grove]

that options bugged

always pick the one that gives u progress for that event

[spice turtle]

yup annoying, didnt get to sue the nuke

use

in other news, hitler killed himself a whole 5 times!

[atomic grove]

are you playing rt56?

[spice turtle]

yeha

[atomic grove]

oh

[spice turtle]

that mess stuff up or something?

[fading elk]

So if Japan doesn’t give up once u destroy their navy and nuke them twice will u need to invade the home islands

I’m currently terror bombing them rn

[spice turtle]

the fact that nukes STILL do nothing to population and especially stability and war support is insane

[trim pike]

They used to affect ws

But it got removed

They will never affect civ population

[spice turtle]

like why would they remove the war support thing?

[trim pike]

Because genocide is a warcrime and always a no no

[spice turtle]

this is a game where you play as hitler????

like yeah war ccrimes

[trim pike]

Yes but do u see any concentration camps

Theres none

Because no war crimes

[spice turtle]

ofc

[fading elk]

I’ve nukes Thailand a whole 18 times and the still ain’t giving up

Now they took the German raj

[trim pike]

Dont want to depict all these bad things in game

[spice turtle]

there is the speer and todt things that give extra factories through "highly recommended labour" though

[fading elk]

I mean I doubt they can actually take me on but they have advanced to the Caspian

I just made 1984 but Oceania is owned by Eurasia

What have I done

Maybe in my quest for world domination I should have admired the little things in life

Now where did I get these 80k panthers from

[paper echo]

amazing faction switch

no way i witnessed it live

[molten moat]

join us

pls

[safe wing]

Hey Tank rate my new pfp

its me Big Al

I'm change my un to Wage Slave Charlie soon

[spare laurel]

the Painter has been murdered

Now is Göring the Leader

Never seen that before

[tulip thorn]

Tuff

10/10

[safe wing]

I saw it in a video and was like I did that j*b before at my local grocery store

[tulip thorn]

We dont speak of the j word around here

[safe wing]

IK

[tulip thorn]

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2025/8/5/3653965.gif

[safe wing]

Charlies face says exactly what i thought of it though

[maiden solstice]

can they please rename china to the republic of china

[torpid light]

S?m

[torpid light]

S?v

[torpid light]

Finally

It's really okay

[safe wing]

I think thats happening

[sudden thistle]

Can u get a leaderboard of messages with that bot

[lapis shard]

Ayo?!?

[torpid light]

?

[atomic spoke]

tired of invadin uk and geting bent over

[sudden thistle]

Like which members have the most

[torpid light]

S?t

[heavy vigil]

Let me use it as well

#off-topic is better for this IMO

[mossy sable]

hi queens

[rain loom]

i mean an ally is an ally

[wide osprey]

Add battalion to the existing regiment - 5 xp
Create new regiment - 20 xp

[paper echo]

Thats exactly why i hate non hist

i wanna do mapuche and this stupid portugal decided to unite

[tiny plank]

Ehy does country with random states get asian potraits?

I have kamchatka as quebec

Only asian potraits

[azure palm]

Just randomly got the tour de france achievemeant because I converted all my 120 Infantry Divisions into Bycicle ones

[small panther]

good ending

[oak mantle]

It was only 5 xp since i removed one battalion from a 8 width division

Plus itd only be 15 xp to add 3 battalions

[heavy vigil]

Attack

[remote quarry]

win

[azure palm]

What the hell is this run? I just got the "Nothing personal, Adolf" achievement...

[icy crescent]

Did you take Austria as Italy, never entered a faction with Germany and survived years?

[vapid bough]

so, when are the allies coming

[azure palm]

Its 1945, im facist italy in the italian league and the german reich is also facist and my puppet therefore in my faction

[icy crescent]

I guess since they are not independent it counts to the achievement.

[azure palm]

great I guess

3 Achievements in one day without grinding for them, not bad

[icy crescent]

How dare you having fun without intentional achievement grinding?

Nah, keep going.

Weird thing I like to do when I play Italy is to release Libya as puppet.
And allowing it to create Maghreb and Arabia.

[azure palm]

I released basicly everyone as puppets so they go down the focus tree and I get more factories. I dont know why I did that but it works.

[drifting igloo]

Pov... you Gave Too much Equipment

[icy crescent]

Blue China jumpscare.

[umbral agate]

which is better?

[drifting igloo]

i have china like 500k guns

[icy crescent]

Usually right path.
UNLESS YOU REALLLYYYY want to use tons of frontline artillery.

[umbral agate]

k

[heavy vigil]

Like 9+

[icy crescent]

Yeah.
A single line artillery ain't it then.

[slender kernel]

bro why did they take out zero build

i can barely play the game on pc

and now i cant even worse

[icy crescent]

What is a zero build?

[slender kernel]

fortnite zero build

installed it to see what they were up to

and surprise surprsie

its shi

[icy crescent]

There is fortnite mod for hoi? D:
Curious.

[slender kernel]

what?

bro

fortnite the game

what ...

[icy crescent]

This is the hoi channel after all.
Blame yourself not me.

[slender kernel]

well yeah but

good argument

[safe wing]

What did you do?

[slender kernel]

what

wdym

anyways

whats a good template for the empire mod??

[solar tundra]

i have 10000 divisions and 120 million manpower on the field

[scenic spade]

WTF

[vapid bough]

czech endsieg

[scenic spade]

i AM PLAYING ON HISTORICAL

trust me its historical

[vapid bough]

iraq just dragged the axis in against the allies
salvation is coming

i thought i was going to have to hold the sudeten wall for 5 years

[heavy vigil]

The factor is whatever

Its base cg that matter

Until MEFO is at 100% you can literally ignore ir

It*

Regardless you should annex nations, steal gold, get autarky

[solar tundra]

Fact Status
True ✅️

[oak mantle]

Proof that communism is better than c#p1tal1sm

[sudden thistle]

ur a player

ofc

[oak mantle]

Dude stop spreading american propoganda

im not

[sudden thistle]

i love america 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🦅 🦅

🇱🇷

[oak mantle]

I love liberia

🇺🇸

[sudden thistle]

ewwww

[oak mantle]

America 🇱🇷 Is okay i guess

[oak mantle]

Also i couldve done better i only have a decent eco cause i got collabs on the baltics

If i didnt get collabs id be sitting at like 300 factories

[bright arrow]

triple race to Berlin

[craggy trail]

I forgot I can use license production to boost research

[half ferry]

It doesnt matter

As long as you have civs youre good

[half ferry]

Did 1.17 release?

[fickle charm]

My friend and me were in mp and he had 23961 ms ping😔

[frosty quail]

war profitiering???

[oak mantle]

Soviet onion is such a tuff country

[heavy vigil]

Licensing is great

You should license the uk spitifre

Spitfire*

Its a pretty decent plane

[oak mantle]

Casey is there a way to stop divisions automatically attacking someone cause theyre tryna walk into a taken tile

[random delta]

no pathogenplethoraof empire is so much more tuffer

[oak mantle]

Its so annoying

[heavy vigil]

H

[oak mantle]

Yeah but like

Stop them before they do it

[lapis grove]

i kinda forgot

[oak mantle]

Without having to halt them

[lapis grove]

is there a secret path for poland

[heavy vigil]

Click h before they do it

[oak mantle]

Im doing it but its very annoying as the soviets

[random delta]

fellow tuffballs should i play base game democratic Germany?

[oak mantle]

Yes

Shield of democracy or smth lets you send vols so its kinda fun twin

[craggy trail]

No. Production licenses has been in the game for a while

[oak mantle]

So tuff

[rose siren]

https://tenor.com/view/timmytoughknuckles-gif-17877644769817608506

[craggy trail]

Plus an attache with main China

[oak mantle]

Went to green bubbles instantly after they lost manpower

Might be time to push

This is with 4 evac techs btw

[half ferry]

No i mean the gfx

[brittle sorrel]

can you only go down one kind of special forces and will it be permament?

[half ferry]

Depending on your country, you can go down 2-3 of them

[oak mantle]

Winter starts in november right

[brittle sorrel]

im germany and it wont let me get the paratrooper one

[half ferry]

1 is free, the 2nd you get in 1940, and the 3rd is limited to focus tree's

[half ferry]

Did you do the marine one?

[heavy vigil]

You can unlock more through focuses and if not through focuses a decision

[brittle sorrel]

i did mountaineers

[heavy vigil]

But they are permanent

[half ferry]

Oh, you need to have them unlocked

Research paratroopers, that will unlock it for you when you have a free specialization

[brittle sorrel]

i already got some trained and ready for an operation but still cant go down the paratroopers tree

[half ferry]

Send a screenshot

And hover over the 1st paratrooper one, if it says you need a branch specialization, then you're gonna need to do a focus

[oak mantle]

1941 btw

[half ferry]

Woah dude, you cant have the hakenkruez in here

[oak mantle]

Mb twin

[half ferry]

As least spoiler the jmsge and warn that it has it

[oak mantle]

I cant tell if youre being serious

[sick viper]

argentina was a tough nut to crack ngl

[half ferry]

I am

[oak mantle]

Fr?

[half ferry]

Its against the rules to have it, but if youre showing stuff from a mod like TNO then usually its not as hated upon in here

[oak mantle]

No but are you being serious about me tagging it

[half ferry]

Half serious

[oak mantle]

If you care about a nazi symblom in a game revolving around nazism and fasicsm then thats silly

[half ferry]

It's like in an NSFW server you'd warn people a post has X content, either thay or what you did by covering them

[half ferry]

Dude, you do know the heinous crimes that regime did, right?

[oak mantle]

Why play a game about it then?

[half ferry]

Its a history game that is centered around the 2nd world war and its build up

[oak mantle]

Is it not a historic flag?

Youre trying to censor history

[half ferry]

Its not bad to play, but in this server, we are not allowed to post politically charged content like that

[oak mantle]

Its not politically charged in terms of modern politcs

[half ferry]

<@&846894118219022336> could you take this off me please?

[tulip thorn]

[oak mantle]

Its well within the games era, plus the image was deleted already

Purely because the company is corporate

And it hurts investments

[half ferry]

Nope

The hakenkruez and other nazi symbols are banned in europe

[oak mantle]

If you care so much about censorship of history, then why play a history game?

[oak mantle]

In germany*

[half ferry]

Wrong

[oak mantle]

In the UK its totally legal and has been since 1945

And many other countries

[half ferry]

Most of europe has them banned

[tulip thorn]

That is the reason why its not in the game btw

[oak mantle]

Its not banned in europe as a whole

[tulip thorn]

Most of europe has loosened their laws regarding it in recent times

Including germany

[heavy vigil]

Yes. No nazi symbols/imagery.

[oak mantle]

I was asking if he was affected and i already know

[tulip thorn]

But not my battle to fight, its banned in the server anyway

[oak mantle]

Cause its silly if he does

[half ferry]

Including, but not limited to: Sweden, Germany, Poland, Austria, and various smaller nations that the 3rd German Reich had invaded and/or occupied illegally during the era of 1936-1945

[oak mantle]

Yes

[half ferry]

They are banned there, PDX studios are in sweden

[oak mantle]

Is that all of europe?

[oak mantle]

Its legal in certain scenarios

[half ferry]

Thus, to prevent controversy, its banned in all their official content

[oak mantle]

Not controversy

[heavy vigil]

There is as far as im aware no universal european law banning them

[oak mantle]

Legal and monetary issues

[oak mantle]

Correct

[tulip thorn]

Especially in video games

[oak mantle]

Its dependant on the country and context for legality

[heavy vigil]

Well you will not find as many restriction on other communities; the hoi4 one is pretty "radical" and needs more server restrictions than other PDX servers for that reason

[oak mantle]

Its legal in almost= every european country if its for education

I believe every european country