hoi4-general

[real tulip]

Is flamethrower tank still meta or not

[tepid crown]

Yes

[real tulip]

Thanks

[serene inlet]

how do i change economic law as US

[rain loom]

big (in terms of land) encirclement

[serene inlet]

like it says all the requirements are met

why cant i change

[remote quarry]

there's a focus called giant awakes

[rose siren]

Mehh i had better days

[remote quarry]

not sure if it's different in rt56

[serene inlet]

im went the other way

oh

[rain loom]

is good?

[pine dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shock-collar-hasan-gif-2390394896082778779

[crystal briar]

Nuke time

[jaunty crescent]

Mega Campaign I am doing, they straight up killed orthodox

[heavy vigil]

Tengri can make a comeback

[jaunty crescent]

for some retrospective, the Byzantines fell in early ck3 to i believe Carpathia, and then carpathia was pushed out of anatolia

[drifting bough]

Someone to play ? Like 2 people with to making axis power

[craggy trail]

That's good to hear

[crystal briar]

Time to nuke London

[solar tundra]

The axis is now unifying china

[worthy halo]

Everyone what is your favourite polish foods? I personally love jelly meat!!

[drifting bough]

Kluski na parze

[worthy halo]

I also preferably tolerate pierogies!

[solar tundra]

we are set to civilian economy and volunteer only

[tulip thorn]

Im back

[worthy halo]

Stop crying and yapping

[buoyant flume]

hi

[sonic sand]

@simple citrus i comprimised and surrendered on the price tags for this new dlc

[solar tundra]

incredible encirclement

[neat kayak]

BEHOLD THE MIGHT OF THE SPANISH EMPIRE

[worthy halo]

Stop crying

[hot patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102209883891310693/1430282649334976583/attachment-2.gif

[daring tundra]

Impressive, but I can only wonder, why would you make this to yourself?

[fallow grove]

Why when i get a few tank divisions the ai will not even try to counter them?

I just stomped Germany as Austria with 4 light tank divisions

[daring tundra]

Anyway, that is certainly a unit of destiny in the universal

[neat kayak]

wdym?

[daring tundra]

Playing S(pectacular)pain and conquering all of America

[solar tundra]

100 million casualties

I love sending hundreds of divisions against eachother with no supply

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-meme-notyouraverageflight-notyouraverageflight-meme-not-your-average-flight-gif-15102885231826256493

[solar tundra]

More soldiers than the population of Cuba

[neat kayak]

I had fun

Speed running the cw by end of 1937

The allies by mid 1939

And USA in 1941

And doing this monstrosity in 1942

Fun , intense and challenging campaign

[worthy halo]

أنا لا أحب غزو الأنريكيين لأنهم يأخذون وقتا طويلا ومكلفين.

[quiet vessel]

my ancestors fought wild animals for me to be able to play hoi4

cheers mate

[fading elk]

Am I doing good for “peaceful” Germany so far

I’m doing recovering economy instead of mefo and set Soviets to civil war cus never done it before

I took some of yugos land and and doing the focus for more

Only thing is if u do the alt hist Czech annex path can u still do Danzig for Slovakia

It’s saying a requirement for Poland to have a certain territory they don’t currently have

Will it sort it self out or have I screwed myself over

[sudden thistle]

Get a state transfer tool

[tulip thorn]

Toolpack my beloved

[fading elk]

As in a mod or something

[tulip thorn]

Yes

Like the 2nd best hoi4 mod ever made

Tool Pack

[fading elk]

Hmmm ya guess I screwed myslef over with doing the alt Czech path then

[wide mantle]

ai said that these are the best 20 mods in hoi4

should i execute it for being horrible at it

[modern bison]

???

the what

[sonic sand]

tada

[nocturne cedar]

there goes sicily

[fallow grove]

Is Adolf cooked?

[hoary mortar]

RIP egypt once agian

Only 2 of those divisions trapped are German at least

[fallow grove]

Why you waste time on africa just naval invade the uk to cap them

Then use canada to attack the us

[hoary mortar]

Already got UK

It sitll has Newfoundland and Africa though so thats annoying

[nocturne cedar]

yup

[hoary mortar]

rip my pride ship

Brits ran away once agian but they lost 2 battleships

[remote quarry]

a tip

when you see your navy is engaged

put it on patrol, always engage

and fly air over the zone immediately

[solar tundra]

I don't get the navy thing

[remote quarry]

then you would reengage and catch their fleet again

[hoary mortar]

DAYUMN

[solar tundra]

I put 5000 ships in one place and they still lose

[hoary mortar]

aah ok ty. Never knew u could do that

[solar tundra]

To a country with 1000 boats

[safe wing]

What happened

[remote quarry]

yeah you just did

[remote quarry]

you had no intel

[hoary mortar]

awesome

[remote quarry]

the game is already telling you this

[hoary mortar]

I CUAGHT THEM AGIAN

[solar tundra]

What does that mean

[remote quarry]

it means you should get intel on them

[hoary mortar]

IT WORKS, ty lmao

[solar tundra]

What is Intel

[remote quarry]

by putting spy in their nation and engaging their fleet

[remote quarry]

read

right click on a nation and go to the second tab

[solar tundra]

How do you put spies

[remote quarry]

do you have dlc

[solar tundra]

no

[remote quarry]

la resistance

then no

[hoary mortar]

i just sank their carriers instantly. Holy moly, that is a legendary tip thank you @remote quarry

[remote quarry]

just put your subs out on raiding around that nation and hopefully you engage

there's not really much you could do without dlc

also if your 1000 ship fleet is all subs there's a chance that they just don't give you enough supremacy in the first place

[tulip thorn]

Lost my old account

[solar tundra]

I have a fleet with 2000 submarine and 1000 destroyers and a few hundred cruisers and battleships

[safe wing]

Sorry to hear that

[hoary mortar]

Lol norway embargoed me when im invading them

[solar tundra]

Just the reserve fleet from production i get one occasionally

[craggy trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809454117428133939/1419677502896476180/silly_filly.gif

[hoary mortar]

Last of the British navy is still in western approaches but my fleet needs repairs

Okay the yjust left every single ocean

[remote quarry]

it's somewhat complicated mechanics to explain

but basically you need to get intel, somehow

without the dlc you can do decryption/encryption tech but idk if they give enough

the best way to get supremacy is to engage their fleet

which is why I said raid with your subs

[hoary mortar]

Ye, intel really REALLY helps with navy. Not just stats but knowing where the hell they even are

I always go for 90% navy intel so I can see how many ships, how much manpower in the navy and where they're operating

[remote quarry]

wait one sec

[plucky girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1377350617856479242/1417924790924083313/caption.gif

[remote quarry]

i might know what's heppening

[remote quarry]

have you ever activated "IC" from console while unpausing the game?

[hoary mortar]

I captured a galapgan spy lmao

[solar tundra]

What is ic

[remote quarry]

ok nvm

im just saying, you don't normally have a fleet of 1000 ships and neither should the ai

[solar tundra]

why not

[lapis snow]

cost/time to build

plus the number in the world at game start

even if you stole all of them you'd stuggle to get to 1k

[solar tundra]

i have 200 dockyards working on submarine

[lapis snow]

why

[sudden thistle]

Why do u even have 200 dockyards

[solar tundra]

I built along my coast

i build when i have free civilian factories

[honest glacier]

anyone know if i can still form the turan empire while going the ottoman path

[remote quarry]

is it like year 1984 or something

[solar tundra]

1959 now

[remote quarry]

well yeah ai also built 20 years of ships

[solar tundra]

But i haven't been building much dockyards and factory since 1950

[remote quarry]

this game is just not intended to be played for that long

[sudden thistle]

Why are u even playing that late

[solar tundra]

Because all the allies were made puppets in 1948

[solar tundra]

Brazil and China

We unified China

[plucky girder]

so freaking xi bei san ma has like 50 divisions....

[solar tundra]

I havent made any new divisions since 1948

[hoary mortar]

Welp

I'm gonna invade Canda and USA now. I AM NOT starting a war with USSR while fighting USA

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[solar tundra]

The united china front was around for like 20 years

idk why

[spiral sphinx]

is the dlc subscription worth it

[hoary mortar]

...Bro I don't look at Italy for 3 weeks and this is what I SEE

[tulip thorn]

Italy in a nutshell

[wary cosmos]

i did it guys finally europe is saved from imperialists

[hoary mortar]

They've nearly cost me this war 2x, this is the 3rd

[plucky girder]

that's like a year and a half for the same money that you get all the dlc

[tulip thorn]

Italy just loves to be terrible

[spiral sphinx]

🤷‍♂️

[tulip thorn]

I can be

But for short periods of time

[wary cosmos]

uh dude what

[spiral sphinx]

is there a hoi5 release date

[plucky girder]

no

not for another 4 years

[tulip thorn]

2077

[spiral sphinx]

how many more dlcs they want to release

[plucky girder]

(eu4 released in 2012 and eu5 I'd launching this year)

[plucky girder]

it's a big one once a year pretty much

[spiral sphinx]

usa only got a new focus in man the guns right

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[spiral sphinx]

i feel like usa focus kinda mid

[sudden thistle]

It is very mid

[hoary mortar]

Its insane :(

[spiral sphinx]

pretty useless

cuz i dont want a huge civil war kill my whole country

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-wave-starlight-glimmer-my-little-pony-gif-15897868

[manic tangle]

Bro France needs a Major update 💀 there is no reason for every single focus to be 70 days long. I am trying to do a Napoleonic france but the early game is so boring and the mid game is hell

[tulip thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093637060721647646/1122979820456915084/praiseMare.gif

[manic tangle]

Maybe after GTA 6

[hoary mortar]

Shit

plz Italy SOTP COSTING US THIS WAR

ITALY YOU TRAITOROUS WRETCH

Okay i defeated this pocket. But now the Brits are at the boot

21 divs RIP.

Wait wtf USa has newfoundland?!

[glacial oasis]

what is this treachery

that would be my mod

[hoary mortar]

wtf is Japan doing

[safe wing]

2013*

[plucky girder]

2012 firsy appeared on the gamecon

[remote quarry]

dafuq is this ai light tank build

[safe wing]

It was august 13th 2013

[plucky girder]

k ig

[crisp wyvern]

the french guaranteed the lithuanians after germany got a wargoal against them

and they instantly failed to win against germany after the germans rushed alsace lorraine and then into paris

[safe wing]

Good times of my life I was playing Minecraft on the pc alot back then

[crisp wyvern]

biggest french L i've ever seen

it took 7 days for the french to be defeated by the german empire

and lithuania is still holding

[hoary mortar]

i do NOT wanna know

[tacit cosmos]

how in the heck did hoi4 make it onto sora ai 😔
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CMNo6WwIAnQ?feature=share

[final ingot]

yes they killed it with the prc generals, much more than i expected

alot of the content seems to lean into cold war??

[hoary mortar]

Ready to invade Canada and USA now

they lost near 100divisions invading Italy, nows the time

[solar tundra]

i left my game running for 4 years

we have still not beat brazil

[hoary mortar]

lmao

BRAZIL NUMBA WAN

[solar tundra]

5 million are dead

Our faction has 3 thousand divisions

Germany has begun limited conscription

[random delta]

i just hit an absolutely DEVIOUS clip against the soviets

[misty fossil]

heart of silicon 5

[wraith mauve]

Is so artillery good for an infantry division

[misty fossil]

no

[wraith mauve]

I meant self propelled

[misty fossil]

SPG is pretty niche

you can do SPG and go down spf

good for soft attack blasting

[wraith mauve]

Uh ok

[misty fossil]

oh no i mean make a tank division with heavy SPGs and mechanised

dont put them in inf

[tepid crown]

Or do. We won’t judge

[misty fossil]

we WILL judge

[tepid crown]

Shhhh. Thats a secret

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1429356048241922070/attachment.gif

[slim nexus]

@green coyote

Sinto a sua falta...

[tepid crown]

Careful. You might get reported for being mean

[buoyant radish]

whats a hoi4 mod i should play

ive played a bunch of mods now

[final ingot]

8 years war of resistance

so u know whats happening in the dlc

[normal vortex]

kaiserredux spain got quite the update

and now i need to kill the other france

[buoyant radish]

its just

the DLC

but free

wow

"an overhaul mod that focus on the region of East Asia and South East Asia"

[normal vortex]

isnt this the china mod

oh yup

it is

[final ingot]

yeah thats what ppl were saying

ppl were upset at the price

[fair horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGI2gOayZP8

chat i love british hoi4 memes

[final ingot]

its still nice though the mod is much harder to play and only focuses on that one threatre

with the dlc since alot of the focuses and ppl are from 1950 u have much more end game possibilities like invading the ussr or something

[misty fossil]

equestria at war

[normal vortex]

i hope ma clique gets an extensive 1000+ focuses for the new focus tree in the next dlc

[buoyant radish]

played it and some submods like TNGO

[misty fossil]

vanilla navy rework

[buoyant radish]

i was thinking of overhaul mods

[normal vortex]

is that the mod that adds nazi germany

to eaw

[buoyant radish]

yes

the EAW guys dont like it

but they are bulling TNGO devs

[normal vortex]

well i can say the same about a submod i found

i mentioned a submod called "roter morgen revived"

and the kx mods banned me

LMAO

[buoyant radish]

ig everyone hates submods now

they cant stop me from playing it tho

[normal vortex]

(this)https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3277861826

[dusky burrow]

Itailan amtrac divisions

wut

[tulip thorn]

peak template

[dusky burrow]

whyyyyyyyy

[buoyant radish]

who else loves having 1 template for your entire army

[misty fossil]

ai palestinian division

[dusky burrow]

An infantry specialist boosts stats based off of the proportion of infantry in division, so an infantry expert with 10% attack bonus will boost it by 6.47%

It's also an 11/6, not an 11/16

[buoyant radish]

i love motorized, ive made tough to kill divisions with it

[misty fossil]

it is 1/16 clearly

[buoyant radish]

as long as it has supply though

[dusky burrow]

Can that division even attack mountains, idk

[misty fossil]

lacks land cruiser

[buoyant radish]

"i will crator the earth"

great division name

[dusky burrow]

I will crator the earth indeeed

[buoyant radish]

look at the production cost

28870

[dusky burrow]

Yikes

[buoyant radish]

i usually have somewhere between 0 to 3 shock divisions depending on my special forces cap

[fair horizon]

CHAT HOW DO YOU MAKE THE EMU EMPIRE

[tulip thorn]

4,7 org and 20 hp 🥀 🥀 💔 💔

[buoyant radish]

damn i didnt see that

the moment it has to defend it just loses, no battle

[random delta]

ive yet again hit a spiffingly devious clip on the soviets

[wraith mauve]

Fight until the last man

[dusky burrow]

You could just do a 36-width shock division

[buoyant radish]

if i was doing a 1-2 division world conquest

[drowsy bronze]

im amazing

[dusky burrow]

I mean larger divisions are just better at offense in general

[radiant narwhal]

when does the full dlc come out no pre order

[random delta]

im playing a monarchist germoney run and i got iran into the central powers

[random delta]

at this point with how many allies i have in eastern Europe it should be called the eastern powers

[nocturne cedar]

all of my allies are stupid as hell

[ancient marsh]

military police cannons

[heavy vigil]

anyone want a vanilla ai germany disaster save

[nocturne cedar]

sure

[dusky burrow]

Your fault for not being in Berlin rn

[heavy vigil]

one min

[heavy vigil]

i was

i couldnt hold it lol

[dusky burrow]

Oh shoot

I was talking to the France player above

[heavy vigil]

oohh

sorry

[ancient marsh]

looks like he’s 2 tiles from rome

[sage plover]

just tried out my first proper sweden game

iron man

[nocturne cedar]

My brother... How can I reach Berlin when all of my borders have LVL 6-10 forts?

[nocturne cedar]

thx

[nocturne cedar]

thats a ton of red bubbles

[sage plover]

where? there is none,

my frontline is orange, and my graphics are shit, naybe thats what your seeing lol

another big encirclement

[nocturne cedar]

so many red bubbles...

ur doing terribly there

[heavy vigil]

i believe in you

[sage plover]

not really, i just closed the encirclement and destroyed it

im doing so bad <?3

</3

killed 25% more soviets then the germans, with like, 20% of thier deaths

[dusky burrow]

flame tanks, assault engineers, and railway guns

[dusky burrow]

who's the blue nation

[sage plover]

me

sweden

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[dusky burrow]

Also you can round the Siegfried Line by naval invasions or the Netherlands

[split bane]

Welp, better send it to Bitt3rsteel

Well it was the AI who messed up so I don't think he would play it

[sage plover]

ive destroyed so many soviet divisions ATP im just walking through emptyu land

[heavy vigil]

i sent him a screenshot

[sage plover]

6/1's are super effective in forests

[vague field]

Hello

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[vague field]

Since yesterday I had the opportunity to play Hoi4, it was a dream come true but it is very complex and I am learning to play.

[sage plover]

nice mate

[nocturne cedar]

that'd take eternity

i barely have tanks

[tulip thorn]

The humble youtube tutorial

[heavy vigil]

you should play my disaster saves to learn fr

[nocturne cedar]

bittersteel shall aid you in getting addicted

oh finally

[dusky burrow]

You're France

[nocturne cedar]

USSR declared war on the axis

[vague field]

Yes, I know

[dusky burrow]

You can get 2 breakthroughs easily

[dusky burrow]

For a noob though?

[tulip thorn]

💀

[sage plover]

augh i hate how big the USSR

is

[tulip thorn]

The best way to learn is to play disaster saves with sheeps mod

[heavy vigil]

theyre all completely awful

[sage plover]

end numbers

[heavy vigil]

i remember the last time i genuinely lost to the ai/quit because i was crashing out

because it was the guam game

[sage plover]

YESS

56% warscore

[rich nacelle]

For some reason, whenever I plan a nuclear raid, it only allows me to use airbases in my puppets but if I do it in puppet territory it automatically cancels the raid.

[sage plover]

what lands do i need for the eternal nordic empire thing?

[rich nacelle]

Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Finland, and the Kola Peninsula iirc

[sage plover]

im shocked my

this is what i got

[uneven basin]

spooky lookin democratic germany

thoughts on this europe?

[sage plover]

painful

[nocturne cedar]

should i do bulgaria or netherlands and only do armored cars?

[sage plover]

</3

that sounds like torture

[nocturne cedar]

nah not rlly

its just full light tanks

[sage plover]

i thought armoured cars were legit useless

[nocturne cedar]

theyre good for garrisons

[sharp sierra]

thyre still crap

[sage plover]

oh well yeah

for garrison only

[nocturne cedar]

but for combat theyre like a worse but cheaper version of light tanks

[sharp sierra]

ur a worse but cheaper version of light tanks

[heavy vigil]

theyre fast

pretty good in sp

[heavy vigil]

wayy faster

[sharp sierra]

he is

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

atleast i last longer than italy

[sharp sierra]

ull never last as long as me ask ur mummy

so cringe

[nocturne cedar]

anyways... time to suffer with armored cars

[heavy vigil]

wdym suffer

they can win very easily

you just need AC 3 teched

[viscid coyote]

I love the average day in Russia

[nocturne cedar]

you have any decent templates for em'?

[tulip thorn]

The humble windows key+Shift+s

[viscid coyote]

I was German empire

Yes I did

[viscid coyote]

Hm?

Oh

[nocturne cedar]

i was talking abt the armored cars

[viscid coyote]

Oh ok

[viscid coyote]

That’s a lot of world tension

[nocturne cedar]

arghhh those are expensive

[heavy vigil]

Zoom

[jovial carbon]

german empire is stupidly op

[heavy vigil]

Ussr capped in 30 days div

:D

[jovial carbon]

coring europe goes crazy aswell

[viscid coyote]

It is

[heavy vigil]

Also like

You only need to produce cars

Dont rlly need anything else

Infantry will be way too slow to keep up

Same for tanks

Or motorized

[nocturne cedar]

do you have any other templates that are cheaper?

[misty fossil]

casey how do you play fascist finland

[heavy vigil]

then they suck

You cant rlly go smaller your hp is too low

[hoary mortar]

Youtube: The best place to learn how to play HOI4 because the game poorly explains itself

[heavy vigil]

Nah

Thebreal place to learn is reading the code

[misty fossil]

second*

the best place to learn is rb discord

since you have others do it for you

[hoary mortar]

seriously?

[hoary mortar]

Steam guides and reddit last

[heavy vigil]

Yes

Its a math game

[hoary mortar]

makes sense, u can see how it physically adds up

[heavy vigil]

All the math is in the code

[heavy vigil]

Its an economy and build vs economy and build contest

Micro and skill only change so much

[jovial carbon]

fr

[sage plover]

i cannot wait untill the faction rework, oml

[sharp sierra]

how do you know its not going to be ass

we'll see

[jovial carbon]

legit u can core all of russia + the enterity of europe 😭

[sage plover]

i just hope it stops england from kicking me out every other second

[hoary mortar]

Fair, it takes so much planning and investment to get it right

then an update drops ruining it

[brittle cypress]

reddit is actually reverse learning half the time

[solid dirge]

guys Im almost out of the tutorial

[drifting igloo]

thats helly fast

[heavy vigil]

Discord hoi players take out the code to learn while reddit just goes 'this won against the AI so its the best'

[heavy vigil]

Yeah theyre pretty good id you can break the enemy line

[heavy vigil]

If*

[misty fossil]

artillery wins against the ai so its the best

[heavy vigil]

I win against the ai so im the best

[misty fossil]

doctrine?

[misty fossil]

hi the best im dad

oh MW

me when i skipped the tooltip

[heavy vigil]

MW

The only doctrine fr /j

[drifting igloo]

would it work in mp If you get a break in the lines

[heavy vigil]

If your enemies only have 1 weak line and up to 2K attack of soft/hard is enough to break them yes

Do note that 2K really is not high

Infantry can usually get to 1K+ and tanks can get 10K+

On top of that 100 hp also is not a lot so you will sustain losses

But if you afterwards overrun your enemy than thats fine

[drifting igloo]

im lucky to get like 700 with tanks !

:<

[split bane]

I completely forgot about this guy

[heavy vigil]

Stack modifiers

[drifting igloo]

whats a planning Bonus

[marsh ravine]

Inf can get way higher than 1k

[heavy vigil]

Everything can get higher than that

Just not really reliably

[marsh ravine]

Can cav?

[heavy vigil]

Yes

I mean youd like it to be better than that of course

[drifting igloo]

JESUS !

[marsh ravine]

Not 1k tho

[heavy vigil]

Because no vets and no level 10 attack gen

[misty fossil]

my highest ever was 23k

[heavy vigil]

You can get 1K+

[marsh ravine]

Gimme the screenshot

[misty fossil]

without console commands my best would be like 6k

[drifting igloo]

holy cow

[marsh ravine]

Or 7k?

[misty fossil]

no 6k soft attack

with tanks

[drifting igloo]

I thought i was okay at the game

turns out i suck

[misty fossil]

oh no im still learning as well

[misty fossil]

23k soft attack was my highest

[heavy vigil]

:3 silly game

[misty fossil]

but i was just testing how much soft attack i could get with my knowledge

[misty fossil]

get on my level

[heavy vigil]

13 losses

Worse K/D

Smh

I got like 1 to 180 or so but decided it was a worse screenshot due to the loss

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/alya-anime-angry-yapping-speech-bubble-gif-18352542840781901374

loss?

I II
II I_

[drifting igloo]

im gonna load up a save

Shit

[drifting igloo]

how is it soo high

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454

[dusky burrow]

1042 planes lost an hour 😭

[opal nymph]

Imagine the poor guy who has to report this to the chief of air force

[craggy trail]

[idle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-sfm-team-fortress-2-meme-gif-13778112899828171612

[tulip thorn]

noodle

[dusky burrow]

true

[tulip thorn]

I am stealing this btw

[idle saddle]

NOOOOOOOOOO

My hour long or so work

[tulip thorn]

Maybe dont upload funny things

[idle saddle]

Fair

[tulip thorn]

I am the bay harbor meme stealer

[idle saddle]

My brother said something so I had to make it reality.

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-twily-mlp-my-little-pony-rub-eyes-gif-1457138502062885582

Im scared

Im scared to play hoi4 now

[sage plover]

final borders

[idle saddle]

I also have a manchu/qing one

[sage plover]

(southern germany is my puppet)

[tulip thorn]

The scariest thing is that border in chad

God I hate how base hoi4 does that in chad

[idle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-helluva-boss-penguin-slurs-gif-13166521928905767643

[heavy vigil]

rate my encirclement

[idle saddle]

Are the those tanks your using?

I'm trying to figure out if you did the encirlement with inf or tanks.

[heavy vigil]

Infantry

[craggy trail]

Infant or tree?

[tulip thorn]

67/10

[hoary mortar]

eepy

i must eep

[craggy trail]

Eeep well

[zinc rune]

Slop

[tulip thorn]

Hoi4 is already slop

That video was a net 0 for hoi4 players intelligence

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-the-hand-that-feeds-you-smiling-friends-true-meme-funny-gif-7426912519711512087

[hoary mortar]

Lmao its true

Communist UK appears

now gn!

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-computer-fire-gif-21352118

[sharp sierra]

im usually glad to see communist uk

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/shellshock-thousand-yard-stare-what-wtf-bro-gif-13085994373754983931

Speak of the devil

[tulip thorn]

Well for us with weak ass cpus

Communist uk = death

[misty fossil]

me

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sportacus-lazytown-gif-8406816

[misty fossil]

blessed

[tulip thorn]

Epic

[rich nacelle]

I can’t believe I have been making the brawler cruisers but forgot to make capital ships and destroyers 💀

Good thing I have like 250 submarines

[sharp sierra]

just keep making the cruisers

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/donpollorayomad-gif-12268666593584373428

[trim pike]

Where do u get the name ches from

[warped flint]

its short for my name

Cheston

[trim pike]

I cant stop thinking about the ches buffer

[trim pike]

Ohhh

[trim pike]

Maybe im doing too much chem

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/geri-game-pixar-shorts-short-films-chess-spin-gif-16337716

[brittle cypress]

Chess

[warped flint]

😡

[warped flint]

😡

stop is bully

😭

😥

[jovial carbon]

Entire army of China is gone 😭

[brittle cypress]

Wow baked potato chips suck

Why did I buy this

[warped flint]

ha

ha

sorry

that was mean

[heavy vigil]

No :(

They have more

[warped flint]

😢

[craggy trail]

Baked potato is a lot better than baked potato chip

[jovial carbon]

they do have infinite manpower

so they can just make infinite divisons

[trim pike]

What exotic tech is that

Have the ponies been inventing

[craggy trail]

Crystal rocket engines

Air to air missiles

[trim pike]

[craggy trail]

Chaff

Bird designer

[brittle cypress]

Lmao

[warped flint]

Wait a minute, I feel like you asked me this before now

https://tenor.com/view/cat-think-meme-jgmm-cat-think-meme-ragebait-gif-14788872422707786751

[heavy vigil]

Im so evil

I just did change government type ln china and deleted their mils + gave DMZs

[warped flint]

😈

No

why delete skibidi

😡

[heavy vigil]

After killing 4.5 million of them btw

[craggy trail]

We are also sort of going back and forth between future cold war and possibly early ironclads as from a recent teaser

[rich nacelle]

I have like 80 of them so I will probably switch to destroyers. They are cheaper than dirt.

[heavy vigil]

the resources are where the DMZs are because roleplay

[tulip thorn]

Now that im back the ponies shall take over hahahaha

[cedar lance]

oh baby cant wait

but are those only for japan

the ships

[wraith mauve]

Any orthodox Christian people here?

Anyone

[craggy trail]

Modded. For Equestria at War

[wraith mauve]

Im so sad bro I can’t run that mod

I’ve tried 3 times

Failed all 3 times

[cedar lance]

OH alr

[brittle cypress]

How

Literally just download it on steam and run it

[digital aurora]

Unless you have extremely bad man power shortages there is not much reason to go past extensive conscription is there? as your factories take a debuff after that

[tulip thorn]

How

Its like one of the eaiser mods to play and run

[heavy vigil]

You also dont want extensive but you just go up when low manpower

Training time affects how fast your units get veterancy

[tulip thorn]

I actually didnt know this

[eternal acorn]

wait really?

4k hours and still learning

[tulip thorn]

2k hours and still learning 💔

[eternal acorn]

me in eu4

[heavy vigil]

You can test it

[digital aurora]

oh wait what? i thought it just affected the raw training time to get up to level 3

[heavy vigil]

No its a bit more significant

Not too much though

But its good to stack training time, division xp gain, xp retention

[copper cobalt]

O: training time has more effects than pumping out units quickly or at level2

[craggy trail]

[misty fossil]

political

[misty fossil]

8k hours and i dont know how to navy

[fair horizon]

someone bonk them

[devout trench]

i forget training units is a thing sometimes

mass deploy 36 width infantry and press green button

[brave oracle]

motorized/mechanized infantry is the most OP thing in the game, at least in single player

[daring tundra]

All three of them?

[snow rain]

Mot is fun because speed but isn't op in any way. It's inf at 4x the price

Mech on the other hand is goated because of low cost and hardness which the ai doesn't know how to fight again

[rain loom]

1.5k hours and I don’t know how to air

It’s seems easy but im too stoopid to learn

[brave oracle]

Mot is op because of speed for major nations

you can pretty much take poland and france in less than a week both with 2 mot armies as germany

[heavy vigil]

But it can be good if youre just faster

Though mech is too slow for it

And motorized is ok speed but still weak and expensive

[heavy vigil]

Its an ok stat

[rain loom]

You are using armored cars?

[heavy vigil]

Its not worth investing into if youre struggling

And its not really "OP" compared to like every other stat

But if your enemy is radically worse than you in stats, has no backup units and you can break them sufficiently it should work and be faster at working

[heavy vigil]

Theyre fast

[rain loom]

Based

[heavy vigil]

Like

20kmh base

But they do suck at combat

[random delta]

I'm playing monarchist germoney and Italy declared on turkey and turkey joined the allies so i guess I'm fighting half of the world again

[rain loom]

I did a papal Rome and was at war with eve major apart from the soviets

I have the save and I can try and salvage it

[snow rain]

Ik, that's why I said it's fun but definitely not op

It is op if you have cas and air which makes cas op i would say

[sullen tulip]

хой 4

хyй 4

[ripe slate]

English only

[onyx sundial]

can someone tell me best divisions and their best way to use them

[fair horizon]

if there were a best probably

[onyx sundial]

wym

[wheat python]

depends on the terrain

[eternal palm]

Don't wanna dash your hopes and dreams, but such a thing as best doesn't exist

[wheat python]

and what your fighting

[onyx sundial]

a good one then

[eternal palm]

There's only a spectrum from very good to very bad

[onyx sundial]

for overall use in europe

[wheat python]

just make a lot of templates

[warped crown]

ayo, what's up w/ france? (Road to 56)

[eternal palm]

Any one of these

[onyx sundial]

can you dm me these?

[eternal palm]

No? You can just copy them from here

[wheat python]

💀

[eternal palm]

Or save the screenshots?

[onyx sundial]

i cant

on school pc

[eternal palm]

💀

Don't u have dc at home bru

[onyx sundial]

50&50

[wheat python]

@onyx sundial just play around with division templates

[eternal palm]

Bad advice when he's asking for specifics lol?

[wheat python]

Like what

[onyx sundial]

i only now navy good and the rest bad

[eternal palm]

He's asking for specific templates, not how the div designer works

[wheat python]

you know navy more than land units?

[onyx sundial]

yep

[rain loom]

now if i justify on demcratic germany in the rhineland which isnt in the allies, will i get nuked by the allies?

[onyx sundial]

i learnt yesterday offensive line

[wheat python]

hes asking for good templates, Im giving him additional advice

[onyx sundial]

im like 900x better in navy overall

[eternal palm]

What's world tension at rn?

Cuz if it's over 80% or you have caused more than 25% they are gonna join allies

[wheat python]

that's like what I experienced but in reverse

[onyx sundial]

oh land units are so annoying to control

i draw offensive line so they auto capture

[rain loom]

im at war with the soviets, im still long chin poland so im prob cooked and I justified against them

[onyx sundial]

and theres 50/50

they will move

[wheat python]

Higher soft attack = More damage to infantry
Higher hard attack = More damage to tanks, etc

a simplified version of it

defense is self explanatory

[onyx sundial]

ah

should i fort behind rivers?

and keep a line there?

[wheat python]

well last time I checked they get debuffs when attacking over a river

so yeah

[onyx sundial]

oh thats good how do i assign them behind a river

[wheat python]

fallback line if it's within your territory

[onyx sundial]

okay thats good

what doctorines should i do

for air/ground

[sullen tulip]

нах иди

[wheat python]

if you dont focus on tanks for ground do superior firepower

[sullen tulip]

пидр

[onyx sundial]

okay

[rain loom]

its at 96% and i caused 56% im so cooked

[eternal palm]

Yea then allies are gonna guarantee

Kill sov first then go in on allies

[rain loom]

the best part is they would still let me in

[wheat python]

why isn't your status hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[rain loom]

idk

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[wheat python]

hmmmmmm

[rain loom]

i will change it

ok done

how democratic

[eternal palm]

Is it the original Germany tag?

[rain loom]

must be since it was a gov change

[eternal palm]

Ah ye then easy

[rain loom]

no puppets

[eternal palm]

Join Allies, after starting the justification, then join and declare

[rain loom]

i have my own faction

i will prob dismantle

[eternal palm]

With whom lol

[tulip thorn]

Looks democratic to me

[rain loom]

best friend otto von habsburg in hungary

[eternal palm]

70% fascism support :clueless;

Adenauer knew what he was doing

[rain loom]

germany after ww2:

[tulip thorn]

Pretty much

[random delta]

i already got into war with soviets and capped them after they declared on my precious baby Finland who i was guaranteeing and now i have like 6 or 7 puppets including Ukraine and Romania also turkey capped now and the French southern front collapsed and France will cap soon also Finland, Poland, Italy, Austria-Hungary, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Iran, and Yugoslavia are in central powers and that isn't even including puppets plus Japan, reorganized China, and Siam have been fighting then allies since 1941 so i luckily didn't get myself a disaster save

[tulip thorn]

6 or 7......

[rain loom]

holy

at least u won

[random delta]

BOIIIIIIIII

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[random delta]

i didn't win yet but I'm sure Italy will find a way to naval invade every single inch of coast the world has to offer

[light crag]

hello everyone

I had nearly finished a lot of achievs and whatnot around Battle for Bosphorus, then forgot the game, might buy it all again.... what has changed so much... COAL? I mean...

[icy crescent]

Hi.

[drifting relic]

Okay so I am kinda new and I tried to check on the planes , the problem is I don't know how to go back 🙂 , entire map gotten yellow so yeah rookie question but still help me please

[light crag]

can anyone take me up to speed about...what has happened so far?!

[tulip thorn]

New dlc in November

Thats like about it lol

[tulip thorn]

🥀 💔

[eternal palm]

Press either f1, 2 or 3

[icy crescent]

The next large update isn't out yet.
No coal yet.

[drifting relic]

Guys help me

[eternal palm]

Bottom right corner

[drifting relic]

Ohhh okay thanks

[eternal palm]

Reading is hard

This is what the tutorial is for

[drifting relic]

Yeah

Still learning

[tulip thorn]

Its so much harder to explain things without being able to actually show them

Explaining things is hard

[light crag]

has arms trade changed much and what about the MeFo Bill? The NSB era had mefo bill something like "You do it once, it strains your CG rate until you win the war once and its over."

Now is it permanent or something?

[eternal palm]

Now that's a skill issue

[tulip thorn]

Visualizing things makes everything so much easier

[light crag]

I read a bit but sounds weird. What if i dont want to make RK's out of everything?

[tulip thorn]

Indeed

I am the bay harbor skill issue

[drifting relic]

One more question how do I invade ?? 🙂

[eternal palm]

You're talking about eco of conquest? It's not permanent you need to complete either of the 2 keystone focuses at the bottom of one of the eco branches

[drifting relic]

• how the day starts ? It shows in my research that it's taking 163 days how do I know the day is keep going ( sorry english is bad )

[eternal palm]

U can also just go left side eco and not deal with this minigame

[eternal palm]

Just... play the tutorial

[light crag]

hmm, but is it higher stake if I go along with it

[eternal palm]

I'm not here to explain the game from literally 0. That's not what I do

[light crag]

wait they put a tutorial?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[eternal palm]

Wdym?

[eternal palm]

.....

[light crag]

Back in my days we cried and cried and did it manually

[eternal palm]

Ye I don't blame you for missing it

[light crag]

damn kids!

[eternal palm]

It's not even good, I'm just saying it's like alright for a very first game. Just to see what it's like not even to play

[tulip thorn]

Its not the greatest, but does teach the basics

[eternal palm]

The very basics

It gets you good at the controls

That's it

[tulip thorn]

Or atleast give a head start to learning the very basics

[eternal palm]

God hoi4 memes are ass

[tulip thorn]

"I enjoy playing the old italian tree"

[light crag]

I did all the battle planner by myself back in my days, those kids have it easy

[eternal palm]

The tutorial has been here since 2016 💀

[random delta]

i dont know what that is

[eternal palm]

u just missed it

[light crag]

is economy of conquest a thing?

[eternal palm]

Don't act like you're the unc here

[eternal palm]

Have you played the new Germany tree?

[light crag]

last time I played was when Battle for Bosphorus came out

[tulip thorn]

Og italian tree

[light crag]

I made ironman Turan and then stopped playing

[eternal palm]

I say "new" it's been a year kek

[eternal palm]

Well then go play Germany and then talk to me again

[random delta]

that loooks wrong

[random delta]

in every single way

[eternal palm]

Oh god

[tulip thorn]

That was the tree before by blood alone

[eternal palm]

The time between NSB and aat was magical

[tulip thorn]

It was so bad

Worst tree in the game

[eternal palm]

I'm making the case that the Russian tree was worse lol

[tulip thorn]

I never played the og russian tree

[light crag]

yeah im at work goofing off so thats why I wondered if people would summarize whats new i was bored

[eternal palm]

A shame

[tulip thorn]

I started playing just before BBA

[eternal palm]

U missed peak

[eternal palm]

Then ask that first and I would've done that. Sitting in my History lecture rn and my Prof is late

So I'm bored asf too

[light crag]

Tzarist Russian tree is peak schizo, I mean Russian Patriarchy Theocracy in 10 years lol

[tulip thorn]

You want peak schizo, play kaiserredux

[light crag]

oh I did... Lovecraftian America lol

[eternal palm]

Alr so ger went from having the worst mils to having the best mils out of any major. They have the best MIos in the game, insane grind potential good generals an insane eco tree and eco law. An inner circle mechanic that gives everything you ever wanted for free

It is insane

[eternal palm]

Yo dawg. Stop posting memes from 6 years ago 🥱

[light crag]

Inner Circle....mechanic? Oh god, its gonna be TNO grade intrigue isnt it

[tulip thorn]

Why

[light crag]

BURGERKRIEG HURRRR DURRRRRRRR

[tulip thorn]

They are mildly entertaining

Either take the terrible memes or pony posting

[eternal palm]

Idk about that. Basically, you have extra advisor slots. Goebbels, Hess, Bormann, Todt and Speer have been moved to the focus tree

[eternal palm]

Basically better advisors with a daily pp cost

They have their own little focus tree which are busted aswell

Balance went out the window with this one

Like worse than with any country before

[light crag]

"İAlr so ger went from having the worst mils to having the best mils out of any major."

Huh? germany had always extremely powerful military factories?

oh no, like good old Turkey focus tree that takes longer than the war itself....

[eternal palm]

Uh not exactly? What I mean by "best mils" is how much additional effi cap countries get. Germany had none

Ger had pretty bad mils they just had a lot

Now they have a lot of mils and good mils because they get like 20% extra cap from focus tree

[light crag]

"additional effi cap countries get. Germany had none"

I really missed a lot didnt I?

MIL Efficiency? Which mechanic...was this?

[random delta]

guys my meme creator isnt working i cant make the meme that ive been trying to make

[vapid bough]

amazing poland

[eternal palm]

Production Efficiency cap. Has been here since day one.

The green bar in your production lines

[valid prairie]

max armour possible with recon tank company?

[eternal palm]

Wouldn't recommend stacking armor that way

You max out at like 80

Add a heavy tank to your div and you get like 200 on the tank, that should be around 100 on the div

[valid prairie]

ai only gets 20 piercing max inf tech, correct?

on average

[eternal palm]

I'd say more. It does do AT late game

[valid prairie]

how late are we talking?

like 70's

[eternal palm]

45+

[eternal palm]

Holy

[valid prairie]

japan*

[random delta]

*****************ITALY

[valid prairie]

japan naval invades wayyyy more than italy

any china player knows the struggle

[eternal palm]

Both do about the same?

Their AIs are similar

All of them are annoying

[valid prairie]

japan can get shit done italy dies really quickly

[random delta]

my pet italy didn't die to the soviets and also collapsed the southern french front and also naval'ed the soviets in the white and black seas so i beg to differ

[valid prairie]

would italy have done that without your 10k a month gun lend lease? didn't think so

[tulip thorn]

When I play

[tepid edge]

Italy needs more troops when you are an ally than when you are an enemy

[tulip thorn]

Japan doesnt naval invade much tbh

Nowhere near the amount of italy and the uk

[valid prairie]

yes, play china though and u will know

[eternal palm]

They do though? That's like their whole thing?

Ever played in SE Asia?

[tulip thorn]

Yes

Still didnt find their naval invading to be as annoying as italy or the uk

[valid prairie]

is it worth it to make flame tanks with good stats or just add flametank companies

[tulip thorn]

stack breakthrough

[eternal palm]

What the guy above me said

[tulip thorn]

Thats like their main purpose, plus the terrain bonuses are really good aswell

[valid prairie]

👍

thanks

if u dont start off with a warfare facility is it even worth the time to get flame tanks?

[tulip thorn]

Absolutely

Same with the armored support vehicles

[valid prairie]

yes what divs should i put assault engis on?

entire army or just elite divs?

[eternal palm]

Depends

If you're able to put 50 mils on them then yes, if not then no

[valid prairie]

👍

[light crag]

I tried CHIYNAH again post BFB and the unavoidable "surrender" of that norther warlord really put a damper on my game... I have to make sure that guy is capitulated before Japan tried anything spicy

[coarse ember]

How am I doing gang?

It’s early 42

I knocked out France in 39

My army is around 1.2 million

And my gun deficit is almost filled

[light crag]

Giovinezza?

[coarse ember]

What

[light crag]

italy?

[coarse ember]

Germany

Africa is a nightmare

Like

[light crag]

didnt do sealion?

[coarse ember]

Not yet I’m gonna wait until Africa is done

[light crag]

back in NSB, I remember doing it around 1939 december, is it still doable?

[coarse ember]

I have no idea this is my first long Germany run

[mental dagger]

it's possible once you capitulate France

you don't even need to make ships

[coarse ember]

I didn’t have to invade Poland either since I got it peacefully

So I just took Benelux

[light crag]

god i remember NSB era, even before. go full schizo riflemen and do Anschluss around 1936 summer, do Poland via justification and not event, bam bam bam 1938 poland, 1939 London... no Blitzkrieg

LICHTGESCHWINDIGKEITSKRIEG

[static river]

yes

[light crag]

"HEY MUSSOLINI WHAT YOU UP TO"
"Dunno, deposing myself i guess"

[static river]

mr starace I dont feel good

[finite nacelle]

yall join trust 90275951683643420

[eternal palm]

#alt-history-multiplayer

[finite nacelle]

he is fat mussolini

[static river]

Quest for Pasta

[light crag]

can you now plunder french fleet mid war?!?*?!?!??!

[eternal palm]

No?

I mean, I guess if you do case anton?

[mental dagger]

British Ai doesn't put its fleet into the English channel post fall of France

[eternal palm]

It literally does?

Wdym

[light crag]

it does but not enough

[mental dagger]

never did for me

[eternal palm]

It does that too?

[mental dagger]

always green naval supremacy

[eternal palm]

How many games of Germany have you played lol?

[mental dagger]

with default German fleet

[light crag]

you can still outgun them if you go for max subs and go for broke

[mental dagger]

like 20 or so

[light crag]

what?

[eternal palm]

Or make shit carriers for sup spam

[eternal palm]

Mean I guess sometimes? Its really random though

[light crag]

I do moderate-to-hard ironman and UK fleet always blocks the straits... just not enough

[eternal palm]

It will put it up sometimes, sometimes it won't

Idk it'd weird

[light crag]

and crazy naval-tac-what have you spam on the straits softens them up a bit

[mental dagger]

it consistently never put its fleet into the English channel until post sealion

[eternal palm]

Can't coroberate

I'm inclined to say u got lucky

[light crag]

no offense what diff you play?