hoi4-general

[opal nymph]

The South, yeah

[granite latch]

If your in LA it’s a desert

[split bane]

Honestly I'd take this over the pushing 40C summers I get out west

[jovial carbon]

cook when i went there it was 104F in italy

[gusty oracle]

yep

[jovial carbon]

in romania it barely even snows

[opal nymph]

I love continental climates where you got -40C to 40C weather

[gusty oracle]

but mountains are cold and snowy

[jovial carbon]

uh no its not cool montreal was so hot in summer

[opal nymph]

Define hot

[jovial carbon]

it was like 104F with 95% humidty

[opal nymph]

Oh jeez

Yeah that is hot

[jovial carbon]

that is not what i call cool

[split bane]

Yesterday in the early morning it was 5C, in the afternoon it was 26C, and at night it was 15C 😭
Bro when is the normal autumn weather coming back

[opal nymph]

That humidity kills

[gusty oracle]

@jovial carbon where I live is as far south as rome, LA would be like north africa

[opal nymph]

In Montreal?

I never knew it got that warm

Pesky gulf stream bringing the heat with it

[jovial carbon]

is it true in america its like canada with the homelessness and drugs?

[opal nymph]

The only reason Europe doesn't freeze is because of the gulf stream

[gusty oracle]

thats kinda rude

[split bane]

Damn... normally when it's that hot over here it's a dry heat (BUT I STILL HATE IT, IM NOT BUILT FOR HEAT - kinda ironic since my parents are immigrants from a pretty hot country)

[jovial carbon]

ive seen vids

[opal nymph]

As someone in rural America, that is how we see urban areas

[jovial carbon]

which province?

[gusty oracle]

yeah theres parts of big cities with lots of homeless

[opal nymph]

But i doubt it is as bad as people say

[split bane]

BC

[gusty oracle]

Glad to hear it

[jovial carbon]

quebec is like the coldest populated province i think

if u excluse new brunswinck and nunavut and the terriories

[opal nymph]

Rural America is an experience

[jovial carbon]

ive been to vermont once

[opal nymph]

Is it good or bad? It's a mix

[gusty oracle]

I'd imagine

[jovial carbon]

and i heard someone call the n word in front a black person...

[opal nymph]

I haven't, heard it is beautiful in the fall

[jovial carbon]

true but unhinged ashell

[gusty oracle]

I heard it has like 4 people

[hot patrol]

rate borders

[jovial carbon]

confederate flags everywhere

like each street has one for some reason

[gusty oracle]

in Vermont???

[jovial carbon]

yep

[opal nymph]

Americans trying their best not to mix up New Hampshire and Vermont

Holy smokes, that must be pure rural america

[jovial carbon]

i also went to mount washington\

in new hampsure

[opal nymph]

Because Vermont is land of the Yankees usually

[hot patrol]

i think they're nice4

[gusty oracle]

I didnt know how until last year

[split bane]

Bro if you exclude NB that makes Quebec the second coldest province lol
But I think Manitoba is colder on average

[opal nymph]

New England is where the true Yankees are

[gilded hearth]

im sorry but this "general edition" seems like such a scam

[jovial carbon]

really manitoba?

[gusty oracle]

vermont is the most yankee

[opal nymph]

Ngl, kinda does

[sharp sierra]

like everything paradox does

[opal nymph]

Except that it apparently has those confederate flag wielders

[gilded hearth]

like why dont i just buy the battle for the bosphorus for way cheaper

[sharp sierra]

scamming and malicious dlc financial policy is their entire company

[jovial carbon]

yes

[opal nymph]

To be fair, some people fly confederate flags near where I live

:/

[gusty oracle]

i've never even seen a confederate flag

[jovial carbon]

why is it because of tradation or some shi?

or are they just racist as hell

[opal nymph]

Anti-government/rebellion or most likely racist

Or all of the above

[jovial carbon]

vermont and new hampsure is straight of red dead 2

tho it is better than new york

in my opinion

[opal nymph]

Have you ever been to a place with no trees

[split bane]

Thompson Manitoba is like -27 on average

[gusty oracle]

have you been to western USA

[opal nymph]

Like you can look for miles and miles and count the number of trees on like 1 or 2 hands

And it isnt even a desert

[jovial carbon]

very intresting

[jovial carbon]

no

[gusty oracle]

yeah all the deserts in Southern cali

[opal nymph]

Well, how about it not being a desert

[split bane]

Is there anything else you haven't bought from the bundle? Normally Steam bundles give you discounts on what you don't have without including what you already got

[jovial carbon]

furthest ive been is like ontario close to minnesoda

[opal nymph]

Fields of grain

[jovial carbon]

ontario is kinda mid ngl

[opal nymph]

Amber waves of grain

[gusty oracle]

then no unless you count places burned by fires

[gusty oracle]

so widwest

[jovial carbon]

thats kinda like the ontario vibe

[sonic sand]

sigh 😔

[opal nymph]

It is fun driving an hour across the American prairie

[gusty oracle]

something I havent done

[jovial carbon]

would be cool to go to california or asia

[opal nymph]

There are some horses, sunflowers, cows, sheep, corn, etc

[jovial carbon]

ive been to turkiye and georgia

[split bane]

Alberta has a few of those, and the Okanogan

[jovial carbon]

that was epic

[gusty oracle]

you should visit sometime

[gusty oracle]

batumi or tbilisi?

[jovial carbon]

batumi

[opal nymph]

So many soy beans

[gusty oracle]

nice

[jovial carbon]

went on car...

[jovial carbon]

we stop at like 3 cities

[gusty oracle]

sounds fun

[opal nymph]

Random question how bad is your commute

[jovial carbon]

instabul and sasmun and trazbon

[opal nymph]

Because we can drive 70 miles in 1 hour

[gusty oracle]

uhh so I dont have a job...

[opal nymph]

Like a 1 hour commute has us go through a few cities

[jovial carbon]

ngl europe is so much better in transportation compared to north america

[opal nymph]

Oh

How long is the average commute then for others

[broken sky]

YESSSSS

i love the trains

trains trains trains

literally

[opal nymph]

Facts

[broken sky]

trains are the loving grace of europe

[opal nymph]

I went to Houston and the only public transport is Uber

[jovial carbon]

romanian trains suck

[opal nymph]

So its private transport

[gusty oracle]

my mom drives like 40 minutes which is about 35 miles

[jovial carbon]

but italian ones 💌

[broken sky]

western europe.

[jovial carbon]

that when i went on my first bullet train

it was epic

[opal nymph]

Oh, better than I expected. I heard the cities become quite painful

[gusty oracle]

Sacramento has trams, but very limited

[gusty oracle]

LA is insane

[jovial carbon]

what is a tram bro 💀

[gusty oracle]

it took me an hour to drive 5 miles in downtown LA

[opal nymph]

Ooof

[jovial carbon]

WHAT?

[gusty oracle]

yk like a streetcar thing

[jovial carbon]

like a tuk tuk?

or a bus?

[opal nymph]

LA just sounds like pain

[gusty oracle]

a what

[opal nymph]

No like tiny train

[gusty oracle]

it very much is

[jovial carbon]

ohhhh

[jovial carbon]

yeah we got the communist ones

[opal nymph]

Tuk tuks are thai motorcycles with a seat on the back

Ish

[jovial carbon]

THE 4TH ONE IS LEGIT THE ROMANIAN ONES

[opal nymph]

Best way I can describe it

[gusty oracle]

So is San Franciso but there you can atleast walk or take public transit

[opal nymph]

Fun to ride on

[split bane]

We need high speed rail in Canada 😔

[jovial carbon]

yeah we stuck on the american railways from the 1900s

[hot patrol]

peak

[opal nymph]

High speed rail would be epic in the US, but probably only regional

[gusty oracle]

ey, we need it more bud

[sharp sierra]

canada high speed rail would be super easy too i feel lke

[opal nymph]

Since planes are better for long distance

[jovial carbon]

no...

how are you going to connect vancouver to saint johns

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[sharp sierra]

well yeah theres vast distances but it could just be one straight network along the south

[jovial carbon]

thats like connest st petersburg to valadavostok

[gusty oracle]

I live about a half mile from an airport

[jovial carbon]

we would never have the money for it

[opal nymph]

If there was high speed rail for California, Texas Triangle, and East Coast, it would be epic

[gusty oracle]

hi

[opal nymph]

Maybe some rail for the rust belt

[jovial carbon]

yall got highways

[gusty oracle]

thats my dream

[cedar lance]

wassup

[sharp sierra]

nobody is probably asking for that anyways it would be toronto to somewhere

[opal nymph]

But highways dont have as much scalability

And you need a car

[gusty oracle]

we are discussing transit

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[split bane]

We already have a railway connecting coast to coast... dk why our government never tried to do anything (except apparently there are plans for a Toronto to Montreal high speed rail route which would def be a step in the right direction)

[jovial carbon]

bro but still

[opal nymph]

Economy of scale stuff

[jovial carbon]

you know REM?

[split bane]

Pretty sure Canada is the only G7 country without any high speed rail

[opal nymph]

Ships are most effective

Then trains

[jovial carbon]

after 40 years they only made a third of it...

[opal nymph]

Then trucks

[gusty oracle]

America might as well not

[jovial carbon]

just like crossing st laurence into a suburb

[opal nymph]

US trying to build high speed rail, difficulty impossible

Budget overblown

Progress made, half a mile

[gusty oracle]

difficulty miserable

[sharp sierra]

let me get some of those squandered funds bruh

[jovial carbon]

bro why is the price of everyting in north america x100

[gusty oracle]

progress made, one freeway offramp crossed

[sharp sierra]

how long ahve they been trying to build from sf to la

[jovial carbon]

like its legit unhinged how expensive it is

[gusty oracle]

my entire life

[opal nymph]

Everything is big in America

Including the pricetags

[split bane]

Damn... here we got the Skytrain which connects some of Greater Vancouver (but still not my city yet... sad)

[opal nymph]

Even our tiniest state of Rhode Island is bigger than some countries

[cedar lance]

i do like the stg44 a LOT

[opal nymph]

It is an assault rifle alright

[jovial carbon]

is that vancouver or victoria?

[cedar lance]

yes ik

[split bane]

Vancouver

I don't think Victoria has any trains

[jovial carbon]

yeah thats about the same as montreal

[split bane]

But idk haven't been there since I was a kid

[gusty oracle]

or anything at all

[opal nymph]

Canada just seems like chill America and I think it would be nice to visit

Heard gas prices there are pain though

[gusty oracle]

and houses are california prices but without the beaches and good weather

[opal nymph]

But i think the Canadians are sick of us at the moment

[jovial carbon]

yeah but the media brainwashes

[split bane]

They're our capital even tho the governor could've picked New Westminster, it would've been so much cooler

[gusty oracle]

we wil atke alberta from under their noses

[jovial carbon]

the hate is unjustified

[split bane]

They've been going down recently

[split bane]

...

[azure crescent]

glory to bulgaria i geuss

[gusty oracle]

you from vancouver?

[gusty oracle]

ignore that

[jovial carbon]

bro why does evey province wanna leave canada

[split bane]

An hour away but close enough

[gusty oracle]

same same

[jovial carbon]

like i swear something is wrong with the people that wanna leave

they are cooked without federal funding

[split bane]

Only Quebec (which stopped caring in the 90s) and Alberta (who are just threatening to leave because they want more money to build oil pipelines)

[opal nymph]

Average American state

[gusty oracle]

they can have american funding if we make them a state

[gusty oracle]

true

(except mine)

[jovial carbon]

no it has a lot of support

still

[opal nymph]

Imagine, the only way Puerto Rico becomes a state is if Alberta joins the US

Merge the Dakotas and Carolinas and we keep the 50 star flag

[jovial carbon]

its like 35%

[opal nymph]

Or we get 52 star flag

[cedar lance]

alr

[gusty oracle]

I support it

[split bane]

Still, nowhere near the 49.7% that voted yes in the referendum

Or smth like that

Idk the exact number

[jovial carbon]

they should make canada a unitary state

cuz these people have low iq

who wanna leave

[cedar lance]

is it true that the stg44 insipired the AK47?

[gusty oracle]

sort of

[azure crescent]

the allies blew up

[opal nymph]

Happens sometimes

[jovial carbon]

is it me or forming the EU is like the coolest thing ever

[opal nymph]

I formed Rome as democratic italy

[gusty oracle]

we've been talking for an hour because I brought up flint, Michigan

[opal nymph]

That was fun

[azure crescent]

now its the usa and its puppets as well as Guadeloupe, Cuba and Panama

[opal nymph]

Is the water there better yet

[cedar lance]

alr

[gusty oracle]

it got fixed this year

[jovial carbon]

ive only formed eu as kaiser germany and facist uk

[misty fossil]

i think

[gusty oracle]

same

[jovial carbon]

kaiser germany is so sick

[cedar lance]

alr

[opal nymph]

Fun(?) fact: Lead tastes sweet, which is why babies like to eat lead paint chips

And then lose IQ points because of lead poisoning

[gusty oracle]

flint michigan makes me so sad

[opal nymph]

Leaded gas has been linked to a global decrease in IQ and youth criminal activity.

But we got rid of that thankfully

[jovial carbon]

it makes this colour

[azure crescent]

prolly wasnt a good idea to make my puppets have no core but we ball

[opal nymph]

But enjoy ethanol in your engine

[gusty oracle]

yeah its kinda crazy

[jovial carbon]

i love this color so much

and the flag

[gusty oracle]

im going to shower now

[opal nymph]

Cya

[gusty oracle]

bye bye

[cedar lance]

bye cya

[opal nymph]

I am going to stop procrastinating too

Cya

[jovial carbon]

we've been talking for 2 hours 💀

[cedar lance]

alr

there is a lot of techs equipments and SPs that i can and wanna add

[misty fossil]

if a heavy battery hits a light screening ship how much damage does it do

[gusty oracle]

im back

[wary sparrow]

when you deny remilitarizing the rhineland to germany, it seems to make historical completely fall apart lol

its 1940 as well

germany cant get enough troops to do anchluss and thus cant do its war focuses

[slim nexus]

And that,s a good thing

[misty fossil]

what effect does dedicated AA cruisers do to a naval battle

[brittle cypress]

None

[misty fossil]

no?

how come

fleet AA is calculated from average of all ships

[brittle cypress]

ok I exaggerated but naval bombers target ships based on HP and get a multiplier based on amount of AA or something

so basically they’ll target your light cruisers last

So your carriers and battleships will get blown to smithereens

[misty fossil]

i play a naval mod that makes planes always target CVs first

[brittle cypress]

I have no idea then

[misty fossil]

thats why i had to ask

because obviously fleet AA is also a factor along with target ship's AA

[brittle cypress]

Do they always target cvs first in the mod?

[misty fossil]

yes

always

[brittle cypress]

Like no matter what

Ok

Uh

[misty fossil]

forget your SHBB sponge

[brittle cypress]

Thats cooked whoever has the better carriers insta wins

I think

Probably

[misty fossil]

exactly

you're right

.

[crystal nacelle]

Germany is so weak without Austria and Czechoslovakia 🙏

And I guess the French industry

[crystal nacelle]

Mountain General would love this

[wary sparrow]

well they cant do like their whole politcal tree

also means their mefo bills will go all the way up

[crystal nacelle]

Yeah that's what I mean

[wary sparrow]

since they cant complete auturky

[crystal nacelle]

[viscid stirrup]

thanks

[lunar topaz]

Red dusk punya HOI4 mod

[crystal nacelle]

🤯

[lunar topaz]

Tapi laptop ngelag 🥀

Kau ada pakai mod ke?

@crystal nacelle ?

[crystal nacelle]

Ada ah

[lunar topaz]

Mod apa?

[crystal nacelle]

Ada banyak

tapi jap

[wary sparrow]

even though germany couldnt do their focuses, Austria did their facist path to start the war, its always the austrians smh

[lunar topaz]

Kau download pakai steam ke?

[wary sparrow]

its so bad that the brits set units to danzig

[crystal nacelle]

Haah

[lunar topaz]

Damn

.

🥀

[crystal nacelle]

JGN mentioned!

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-stare-gif-6201328377551420443

[lunar topaz]

Okay

[crystal nacelle]

Aku add kau

[lunar topaz]

Added

[crystal nacelle]

DM sekejap

[slim nexus]

Poor France

[silk gust]

France deserves it

And for some reason Switzerland declared on Italy

[slim nexus]

Oop

[warped flint]

What do I do

germanys justiflying on me

im scared

[silk gust]

lol

I lowkey used commands to win the war

[dusky burrow]

Try to close the East Prussian and Silesian bulges

[warped flint]

I may have found another solution

OH GOD NO

IT DIDN;T WOR

SHE;P

HELP

[dusky burrow]

They are breaching the Czechoslovak forts

Huh

[warped flint]

The czechs didn't do the focuses

[slim nexus]

Oh no

I’ll pray for you

[warped flint]

polands not fun

[slim nexus]

Oh. Do you have any tanks or lots of planes?

[warped flint]

uh

no.....

[slim nexus]

Oh….

Any mountaineers?

[warped flint]

no......

[slim nexus]

Oh

…

Okay

[warped flint]

Yeah....

[lunar topaz]

Not my clip

[slim nexus]

First things first I’d bet shorten the front. You need to concentrate your army as to hold better.

[warped flint]

Games dead

[slim nexus]

What’s your land doctrines

[slim nexus]

Oop…

[warped flint]

i don't got much army xp

[slim nexus]

Oh…

[warped flint]

don't think I enjoy Poland.

[viscid stirrup]

No more wars❌
No, more wars✅ 🗿

[slim nexus]

Civ greed?

[warped flint]

🙏

[warped flint]

nah

[slim nexus]

What did you build?

[warped flint]

uh

i don't wanna say

i felt special

like 10 minutes ago

[viscid stirrup]

I forgot that i had civs

So i didnt use them

[slim nexus]

Oh no…

[slim nexus]

…

[warped flint]

I don't even remember why I did this

[viscid stirrup]

I accidentally right clicked the free civs button instead of low manpower

[slim nexus]

Forts are good but you need a good eco first

[viscid stirrup]

Guys how do i do a nepal world conquest

[warped flint]

i built some civs

at first

[viscid stirrup]

Build civs until 1938 at least

As ANY country

[slim nexus]

…go commie for the ultimate manpower and pray

[wary sparrow]

pov czechoslovakia watching as the comintern, allies, and axis fight it out

[viscid stirrup]

I actually only need communism for the first 10 years of the world conquest

[warped flint]

no

not as all nations

[slim nexus]

First ten years….

[warped flint]

some yes

[viscid stirrup]

After that i can suck manpower out of conquered china and india

But i cant defeat the allies

Theyre stacking 40 divs in 1 tile

67 naval invasions a minute

Like i have all of asia

[warped flint]

They should have no supply then

[viscid stirrup]

I know but its impossible to push them

[slim nexus]

Allies putting a 3 mil men in UK 😭

[viscid stirrup]

Because i dont have supply either

And then when i build a supply hub, i push for 5 tiles then have to build another supply hub

Siberia my beloved❤️‍🩹 🥹

[dusky burrow]

You have to reinforce meme

[viscid stirrup]

In late game?

[slim nexus]

What meme?

[dusky burrow]

You have to build lots of CAS and tanks

[dusky burrow]

Basically push units off tiles before new units can reinforce them

[viscid stirrup]

Its when u defeat a division before other divisions get reinforced into the battle, causing the other divisions to retreat too

[viscid stirrup]

Im doing that

[slim nexus]

Ohhhh. I never knew Thats the name for it. I never find mp games so I never heard that before 💔

[viscid stirrup]

But i dont have air dlc

[slim nexus]

I see

Yall know everything 😭

[viscid stirrup]

1600 hours does that to someone

[wary sparrow]

africa/SA/china/ anywhere that isnt mainland europe

[slim nexus]

I have about 500 😭

[warped flint]

ha

only 1600

[viscid stirrup]

Like i can literally win as any country

[warped flint]

I got this much

[slim nexus]

What’s your hours…

[viscid stirrup]

So i try challenges

[slim nexus]

Oh….

[viscid stirrup]

Sigma fr🗿 🗿 🗿

Only real sigmas dont shower and play hoi4 6-7 hours a day

[warped flint]

https://tenor.com/view/donpollorayomad-gif-12268666593584373428

One thing I noticed in hoi4 is ive mastered major nations but im shitty at minor nations

[viscid stirrup]

In hoi4 you never master anything

There is always room for imrpovement

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[warped flint]

i don't lime imrpovement tho

[dusky burrow]

But when you go into MP you do have to master everything

[warped flint]

it takes time

[dusky burrow]

And also get perfect luck

[viscid stirrup]

When the mp meta tells you that you have to build 600000 heavy tanks to break through german lines🗿

I played ussr mp

And i literally had to force attack meta heavy tanks divisions to take one tile

Full supply plains btw

Not a river crossing

[wary sparrow]

me playing as romania (no industry)

[viscid stirrup]

Civgreed solves every problem

[wary sparrow]

yeah by 1952

[dusky burrow]

Also something you do in late singleplayer

But yeah you do that in MP

[viscid stirrup]

Actually, civs pay themselevs off faster than most ppl think

[dusky burrow]

Yeah Sovietse are miserable

[warped flint]

I hate civ greeding

[viscid stirrup]

When you build civs, you build the next civs faster

So theres more benefits

[warped flint]

As majors I just build millis instantly

[wary sparrow]

yeah but its takes a long time to kick off

[viscid stirrup]

And theres like no war before barabrossa

So you have to get ALL the xp for doctrines somehow

And its like almost impossible

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

I've heard people say grind grind grind on the Baltics but oof

[wary sparrow]

bro why is BULGARIA a major, now i have to go all the way thru every axis member just to end this war

[cedar lance]

if i had ALL the money in the world id be able to buy anything i want on steam like games dlcs expansions etc

[viscid stirrup]

Oh but having a war is also bad for soviets. Theres a massive stability and complaince gain debuff

[wary sparrow]

halpppp

[viscid stirrup]

If i had all the money in the world i could buy everything in the world

[viscid stirrup]

What country are you?

[cedar lance]

alr

[viscid stirrup]

🥶 💦

[cedar lance]

i do want estonia to start printing out 500 euro and 1k euro bills

[wary sparrow]

france but i have to march all the way to bulgaria, then go fight the soviets

this is gonna take forever

[viscid stirrup]

Blud u can always quit

Youve defeated germany

[wary sparrow]

no accomplishment if i quit now

[viscid stirrup]

Thats enough

[wary sparrow]

must

get

peace

deal

[viscid stirrup]

Are u trying to get an achievement or smth?

[wary sparrow]

no but i just like finishing off the wars

makes me feel accomplished

[viscid stirrup]

Uh huh

Mojangs tryna scam me again

[viscid stirrup]

Devs cant be fr rn

[cedar lance]

whadya yalls think bout this idea?

[viscid stirrup]

Dont print too much

Then therll be inflation🥶 💦

[cedar lance]

i didnt say that

maybe print out like a couple few per year

like a couple few 500 euro and 1k euro bills

[sick viper]

fk this game??

three simultaneous naval battles in the same sea province?

think i have enough task forces for that??

[cedar lance]

@viscid stirrup

[viscid stirrup]

What

[cedar lance]

read above

[viscid stirrup]

Ok

Moderate inflation is fine

[cedar lance]

alr

thats why i said atleast a few couple per year

[dusky burrow]

Your late-game tank division probably looks like this

You need so much armor here because the enemy gets like 110+ piercing

[misty fossil]

man i wanna play video games instead of working on my assignment

[dusky burrow]

Make tanks amphibious if you can

[misty fossil]

rangers?

why not armoured recon

10% piercing is still 10% piercing

[dusky burrow]

That's 10% hard attack

Not too bad of an idea tbh

[misty fossil]

huh

and you can stack entrenchment and breakthrough with your light tanks

[cedar lance]

still cant believe we wont get PRE ACCESS To the content if you buy the hoi4 expansion pass 2

[dusky burrow]

Here

Rangers are better in snow or mountain terrain

[misty fossil]

dont fight in snow

[dusky burrow]

I mean snow comes to you

[misty fossil]

only mountain you will find trouble in will be norway

[dusky burrow]

You don't come to snow

You do come to mountains, but the mountains are everywhere

[misty fossil]

well you wont be using that for barb will you?

what mountains anyway

there's none in northern france

[dusky burrow]

This is like a 1944+ template

[misty fossil]

you wont fight in north italy unless you mess up

[dusky burrow]

Singleplayer

Singleplayer 1944

[hot patrol]

what would be a good motorised division template? I was thinking 6 motorised, 3 mech and 2 motorised artillery

[misty fossil]

bad

[wary sparrow]

i am already feeling the horror of htis peace deal

[misty fossil]

anything with artillery is bad

[pearl jackal]

this is so stupid my ally germany declared on me

[misty fossil]

anything with motorised as the bulk of your division is bad

20w mech is good as org wall, but mid for offense

[pearl jackal]

now most countries that i border are at war with me, i quit

[misty fossil]

this is what you will want for offensive tanks

@hot patrol ^

[hot patrol]

don't really want or have tanks

[misty fossil]

1xp so thats sheep's

[misty fossil]

then special forces it is

[dusky burrow]

Defensive template

[dusky burrow]

I just happen to have Sheep's open right now, ignore that xp number

[misty fossil]

why is there a normal AA in there?

[wary sparrow]

how'd this little guy happen

[misty fossil]

if its not sheep id want reliability because im not microing my tanks in india or malaya

[dusky burrow]

To shoot more AA when you you are facing waves of enemy planes

[misty fossil]

i mean, why not motorised aa

[dusky burrow]

I will in the US and southern France

[misty fossil]

yeah thats my point

[dusky burrow]

Oh yeah do that

And do self-propelled superheavy

[misty fossil]

lol

wait 35w defensive?

why

[dusky burrow]

If you are doing asia then replace the amtracs with mountaineers

[misty fossil]

you can also consider putting in a heavy tank as armour meme (it still works, i checked)

[dusky burrow]

Well in singleplayer the roles are reversed

[misty fossil]

.

[dusky burrow]

The armor meme is the tank destroyer, the mainline unit is a howitzer tank

[misty fossil]

oh nah im talking about lmikks

[misty fossil]

interesting

ok thats great to know ima keep that in mind

[slim nexus]

Bet

What difficulty

[dusky burrow]

Remember this is a singleplayer template

[misty fossil]

im aware

whats the difference for mp

[dusky burrow]

Just making sure

[cedar lance]

why is the sturmtruppe battalion only a support company?

[dusky burrow]

Okay here's the German tanks and here's the Soviet tanks

Difference is that we're using tank destroyers as our mainline, and using less mech/amtracs because we likely aren't naval invading

And French, since we are naval invading; replace assault engineers with pioneers when naval invading and then switch back after landing

@misty fossil

[misty fossil]

why do soviets not go for air

is it because they dont have range mio

[dusky burrow]

They don't have enough for both air and tanks

So they do go air for mass mob

But otherwise no

[misty fossil]

whos the ac for axis then

and air producer

[dusky burrow]

Germany or Italy

[misty fossil]

or is ger strong enough for both

[dusky burrow]

Probably depends on the rules of the game

[misty fossil]

ah

[dusky burrow]

For allies it is Brazil or Canada

[misty fossil]

brazil ac is busted

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[misty fossil]

30% air range plus range mio........

what other country gets range mio?

[slim nexus]

Italy

[dusky burrow]

German range mio is especially busted, a few countries do get range mios I believe though

[misty fossil]

whys that

[slim nexus]

Idk why they say

"Italy can't beat Uk neavy"

I always menage to kill it on mutiplayer but anyway

[dusky burrow]

Special upgrades, I don't know what it is for Germany off the top of my head

But yeah

[slim nexus]

Guys you know if sheep mode make the Neavy even Harder to deal with???

[dusky burrow]

Probably depends on rules

[misty fossil]

whats neavy

[dusky burrow]

And if you are willing to dedicate the resources for Italy navy

[dusky burrow]

Heavy?

Or Navy?

[slim nexus]

Ships

[viscid stirrup]

Yes

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

[slim nexus]

Is actually smarter on that side too?

[dusky burrow]

Yeah AI just deathstacks

[slim nexus]

Damn

[viscid stirrup]

Yes

[dusky burrow]

hundreds of thousands of naval supremacy

It's insane

[slim nexus]

[misty fossil]

how do you sealion in sheeps mod then

[dusky burrow]

I managed to beat the UK as Italy navally

[viscid stirrup]

I will be satisfied with my life when i understand navy fully

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/neebs-gaming-neebs-hank-and-jed-parachute-battlefield-gif-15640097

[viscid stirrup]

Paratroops

[dusky burrow]

Iin Sheep's

[misty fossil]

36w paratroops?

[viscid stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/buynov-vdv-desant-gif-20196192

[misty fossil]

wouldnt your transiting troops get convoy raided

[slim nexus]

You just unlock me a memory

I don't remember the name

[viscid stirrup]

Vdv

[coral gorge]

Nah no way

I can barely do anything

[viscid stirrup]

Wow its the creator of sheep mod

[dusky burrow]

Hi Sheep

Vanilla India has an armored car MIO, I think you should try to do an armored car build and naval invade the UK with them

Would be a nice challenge

Allowed to be non-historical or historical

[sick viper]

yugoslavia

[dusky burrow]

convoys

[sick viper]

yes

but thats not the uk flag

[dusky burrow]

OH LMAO

UK fighting UK

[stark rain]

Where is bitt3rsteel

I am his pupil

[tardy marten]

If meta sub against meta destroyer always engange duel, who will win?

[coral gorge]

DD wins if they are on patrol and subs are locked to defensive

But still need both radar 4 and sonar 2 here

They can actually wipe sub stacks very quickly if they come onto a sub fleet as the attackers

if subs attack a convoy fleet and dd go to defend then subs might survive just fine

Depends on the ocean too of course

Shallow sea then rip subs

[slim nexus]

Is your mod

Btw it wasn I but Is

So is actually smarter on Navy and Airforce

[tardy marten]

My lategame destroyers has active sonar and max radar level

3 small guns, 2 depth charge, and 1 torpedo

[cedar lance]

hello all yalls wassup

[tardy marten]

I kill random low hp big ship and one carrier by my random destroyers just convoy guard the trade routes

[eternal palm]

Diversifying within 1 design is not a good Idea

[spark cave]

Hello everyone, if I have an offer to the developer to write to this chat?

[eternal palm]

Make different designs for different purposes

[tardy marten]

I have one slot docks purposely for that destroyer

[eternal palm]

Well the design is still multi role

[tardy marten]

4 slots for light cruiser fighters, 1 slot for cruiser spotter, 3 battleships, and 1or 2 for carriers

[eternal palm]

What.

Light cruiser fighters?

Can u explain that

[fallow grove]

Is better to use light guns or torpedo in a destroyer?

[tardy marten]

Maxxing light attack

[eternal palm]

Torps

If at all

[fallow grove]

What does a torpedo

[eternal palm]

Oh my god. Don't say "fighters" when you mean light cruisers that have light attack bruh

Terminology is important

[eternal palm]

25% of 1 heavy attack

It's basically cheaper heavy attack

[tardy marten]

I rename that

And cruiser spotter just 2 guns and all out catapults

[fallow grove]

And depth charges?

[tardy marten]

Killing subs

[eternal palm]

Navs are better

But sure

[fallow grove]

What’s that

[eternal palm]

If u don't have alu or rubber for whatever reason

[eternal palm]

Naval bombers

[fallow grove]

Big airframes?

[tardy marten]

1940 and 1944 carriers template not worth right?

[fallow grove]

Or medium?

[eternal palm]

Usually not

[tardy marten]

Small

[eternal palm]

Large air frame can't make a nav

[misty fossil]

i think light guns are better

helps with shredding screen

[fallow grove]

Small can’t reach certain areas in the pacific

[eternal palm]

Medium airframe can only make a heavy fighter with torpedos. It's still good thoigh

[tardy marten]

So 1936 with as much deck spaces right?

[misty fossil]

you absolutely can

[eternal palm]

You have light cruisers for that

[misty fossil]

turn them into maritime patrol aircrafts

[eternal palm]

Dds have shit stats

[eternal palm]

Absolutely not

[misty fossil]

i will squeeze every light attack out of my DDs

you can

i did that before

try it

i would show it but im busy rn

[eternal palm]

I have. And found that investing into dds that die anyway is a waste

[misty fossil]

oh you mean you shouldnt do that

[eternal palm]

Just cuz it works doesn't mean its good

I'm going for the best

[misty fossil]

i thought you meant you cant

[eternal palm]

Cuz a lot of things work

[eternal palm]

Wdym

We're talking about dds still

[misty fossil]

thought you said its impossible to mount torps on large airframes

[eternal palm]

Oh right, but they suck so much ass that it might aswell

[misty fossil]

lol

[tiny iris]

Guys, I wanna play my forever world war game I made on HOI4 yesterday but what is the point. Its literally a forever war, none of us got what it takes to defeat eachother.

I love ahistorical.

Its so bad it becomes fun.

HOI4 ahistorical is awesome, I don't know what people mean when they say they hate it.

[fallow grove]

What’s dds

[mystic gale]

latest run is crazy

[spark cave]

Hello everyone, if I have an offer to the developer to write to this chat?

[terse crater]

Does a GB every cap when you continually nuke them?

[spark cave]

Is it possible to make artillery divisions shoot not when you sent them to attack the province, but, for example, when they stand conditionally on the border with the state with which you are at war and shoot at divisions through 1,2 provki. I think it can change the system of fights and make it more interesting.

[marsh ravine]

????

[heavy vigil]

No

Artillery in divisions cannot bombard enemy forces

[toxic cypress]

i think some devs talk here

rarely doe

ive maybe seen 2 ever

[heavy vigil]

Nah

[toxic cypress]

i remember seeing like

a dev talk

once

or twice

in chat

[heavy vigil]

They do but not for suggestions

[eternal palm]

Destroyers

[heavy vigil]

So, useless to him

[toxic cypress]

i mean yeah

there isnt a major game out there

[eternal palm]

See, someone gets it

[toxic cypress]

u can just message mods for suggestion in discord

maybe on the forums or smt

[heavy vigil]

Its peak

Hist sucks with the ai because it isnt strong enough to be interestinf

[eternal palm]

You seriously underestimate the size of 1 tile 💀

[tender swift]

They can (maritime patrol bombers), its just not worth

[heavy vigil]

Easy to just tip the balance as a player

On ahist it is NOT balanced

[eternal palm]

Artillery doesn't shoot over dozens of kilometers

[eternal palm]

Ye I remember now and I also remember why I didn't remember 💀

They suck so bad

[heavy vigil]

Range tho

[tender swift]

10 stacks instead of 100 is so annoying

[eternal palm]

And?

Hf nav can have 2k aswell

[heavy vigil]

You can reach all the sea zones you dont need

[brave steeple]

oh wow

didnt expect the ai to do this

[marsh ravine]

I need to reach rapa nui

[tender swift]

you said it already, "I don't need" that much

[heavy vigil]

Im just saying their only advantage

[tender swift]

Nothing burger basically

[heavy vigil]

finally youd be able to naval bomb the deep seas in the atlantic and uhhh

The indian sea as japan or whatever

[marsh ravine]

Rapa nui

[heavy vigil]

Big

Thats actually still not worth it

Say, youre the allies

The axis decides to be extra annoying and raid the panama, below south africa, below south america

You have the panama canal + islands there

You dont need extra range because mediums will have enough

[brave steeple]

its 1939 and germany is at moscow...

[marsh ravine]

Maybe cos there's a civilwar so they're alot weaker?

[brave steeple]

germany is in a civil war

[marsh ravine]

That happened recently tho?

[brave steeple]

they ended up just taking Lithuania due to civil war but germany isnt in good position

[marsh ravine]

Haven't the sov been in cw for longer?

[brave steeple]

a little bit

but my question

is how they even got a front line

very confused how they got to moscow

with no borders

[heavy vigil]

Dont post nazi flags/imagery please.

[marsh ravine]

Oh bruh

That is confusing

[brave steeple]

oh mb

i forgot i installed a map mod

still makes no sense how they got to moscow

and they didnt start with this state

if you were wondering

[fallow grove]

Why every single mp lobby is called gianpierisatard

[hot patrol]

what

[brave steeple]

ok what

why are they manually justifying

peru just joined the axis...

...

100% historical

[marsh ravine]

hacker? or whatever the word is i forgor

and they dont like giampier

[brave steeple]

why does the white death apear for MINOR nations if it gives a modifier for majors

denmark declares on me and i now lose the buffs for the soviets

[heavy vigil]

Pick the second option

Manpower

[brave steeple]

ye

i am not rly in a manpower shortage somehow

lots of land tho

this just feels off

very nice

[dusk quartz]

@hazy pumice hi

[brave steeple]

mexico became communist invaded the usa lost... and then was forced to be democratic but then became communist AGAIN ...

huh

[cedar lance]

the christmas gift i want this year from santa is a the BEST gaming PC

[proud tapir]

Bro the german democractic path is so OP

Being able to annex majority of Europe with the click of a button, i love democracy

[brave steeple]

mexico died for the 2nd time and this time got turned into a puppet

watch them try again

[rotund snow]

does anyone have the link for the TommyKay discord?

[ebon wolf]

why did germans not conquer all of chechslovakia?

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/another-easy-steal-steal-gif-gif-steal-gif-gets-stolem-gif-7935542554022949277

[wanton whale]

hol up lemme make it a gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120118762948022474/1429054778276708502/togif.gif

[rotund snow]

whats the difference lol

[wanton whale]

Gifs are easier

[brave steeple]

kidding me

the allies are ABOUT to kill them anyway

[wanton whale]

Imagine if they hold on

[brave steeple]

they went though the civil war

tho

that civil war

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1429055356839137310/attachment.gif

[brave steeple]

ive seen better chat bubble gifs

(not a gif but better chat bubbles)

[misty fossil]

i do have better chat bubble gifs

[brave steeple]

ok

[wanton whale]

🔥

[misty fossil]

i ran it through a chat bubble bot in another server

[wanton whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1148565587153403994/1307731728562917446/New_project.gif

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-terrifying-horror-bunny-roomba-gif-3761752394286498185

[wanton whale]

I'm petrified

[hot patrol]

why does it only deploy 1.2k if i have around 3k aircraft in the force

[wanton whale]

You only have 1100 over Japan

[hot patrol]

they're all put on home isles though

how weird

[wanton whale]

The red ! symbol means the planes aren't assigned to an area

[hot patrol]

for example i put it on korea and its still not deploying

why?

[wanton whale]

You assigned them to air superiority?

[brave steeple]

did you set a task

[wanton whale]

And set it to day & night

[brave steeple]

eg.

[hot patrol]

yeah

oh it was on excersises

[wanton whale]

👏

[hot patrol]

sorry

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1117568082588737658/1234538453656670270/shared_moment.gif

[hot patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/drift-ryan-gosling-night-i-drive-drive-gif-2289177870673446898

[misty fossil]

hi petrified im dad

[wanton whale]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hot patrol]

hi dad i'm not funny

[misty fossil]

if you dont find it funny its not my problem

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-sin-forgiveness-my-students-are-all-morons-danhentschel-dan-hentschel-therapist-dan-hentschel-gif-17216516396095305089

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357372749177421969/1407928669673881690/attachment.gif

[hot patrol]

wait i should be getting 2.4k on there in total

[heavy vigil]

Theyre not all on missions

[brave steeple]

THE SOVIETS RAN OUT OF DIVS

finally

[wanton whale]

Nothing special

[brave steeple]

yes

but

germany

is about to declare

[paper echo]

ah yes really historical

[brave steeple]

which is nice to be able to ignore the soviets

[hot patrol]

what

wdym

[paper echo]

sssr my beloved ❤️

[wanton whale]

on god

[paper echo]

civil war usually never ends so you have a free russia

[wanton whale]

ahhhh okay

[wanton whale]

I once had the russian civil war (SSR VS Soviets) go on for 5 years

[heavy vigil]

Not all the fighters are on supremacy mission im guessing

Or they dont have range

[paper echo]

bruh

[heavy vigil]

Regardless your air efficieny makes it so you probably wont get supremacy

[wanton whale]

I had to come in and save the SSR as Communist america

[brave steeple]

ah....

[paper echo]

i just declare on stalin ussr cuz its a free russia

[brave steeple]

my divs are in the urals

[wanton whale]

yeah

[hot patrol]

HOLY YELLOW AIR ON THE HOME ISLESS

YES

[brave steeple]

ok how do they still have Crimea

germany what are you doing

[hot patrol]

how much divisions do the deutch have

[brave steeple]

the second this falls they will lose

....

wait

i have to blitz them

before germany dies

or else i have to 1v1 the sssr

which i dont have enough divs to do

(i might but it would take ages(

[wanton whale]

Krill issue

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/professor-quirrell-quirinus-quirrell-what-is-this-magic-professor-quirrell-what-is-this-magic-professor-quirrell-magic-gif-7352857341810401292

[indigo violet]

when playing germany, what is the better doctrine for going down the prussian legacy?

[brave steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709130986834624552/1423077021805707375/dbuq9rexxk5f1.gif

i might lose

wait no

they are only 70%

THEY DONT EVEN AHVE DIVS HERE

WHY ARE MY TROOPS MOVING LIKE SNAILS

[hot patrol]

superior firepower, its artillery based

[hot patrol]

supply

[indigo violet]

mhm, mhm

thx

[brave steeple]

they dont MOVE SLOW

THE BATTLEPLAN MAKES THEM MOVE SLOW

[hot patrol]

upp the agressiveness on battleplan

[mild plaza]

For larp yea

[brave steeple]

ITS MAXXED

[hot patrol]

rigid cohesion?

[paper echo]

heres an example of free russia

[brave steeple]

Im just gonna snake

[indigo violet]

only for larp or is it an actual viable thing to do?

[brave steeple]

to their cities

[mild plaza]

Only for larp rly. Line arty will just make you waste manpower

[brave steeple]

THE GERMANS HAVE HAD THIS FRONTLINE FOR OVER 3 MONTHS

WHY CANT THEY TAKE IT

ig its time to send some of m divs

my

divs

[indigo violet]

I'm thinking of doing great battleplan and then doing tanks

[heavy vigil]

Urban smh

[brave steeple]

i understand now

its italy

i didnt even take it and they died

amazing

[safe wing]

Mexico or the Socalist Union is going to war against the USA

[heavy vigil]

That war is legit so hard

[safe wing]

Puyi likes me for some reason too despite the fact I'm Monarchist

and he is Fascist

[brave steeple]

very nice

[zinc light]

this damn nation in Kaiserreich is pretty brutal, but I'm having fun so far

I'm da pope

[brave steeple]

no kx?

[zinc light]

what is kx?

[brave steeple]

kaiserriechdux

[zinc light]

you know there are other mods to play besides Kaiserredux?

[brave steeple]

yes

i do play others

but i find kr to just have worse focus trees in every way except for 2 nations

germany

and india

only nations with better focuses on kr

(person opinion)

[zinc light]

smaller ≠ worse

[brave steeple]

i mean half of krs nations dont have focuses

i have played both and kxs best nation is prob russia

which has a absurd amount of good paths