hoi4-general

[eternal palm]

Then just fastgame>>>>>>

[indigo violet]

Little entente 🔥

[heavy vigil]

You cant

You can deny czechs but it doesnt stop germany from getting danzig or war in 37

If you rush it

I did it once against sheeps ai was funny

[tardy marten]

Little entente but I have German puppet and Russia puppet

What little is here

[indigo violet]

I remember playing with two friends, one spain and the other france with me as germany

Lost the civil war in spain cuz france intervened but i went on to kill both anyways XD

They were expecting me to go with the Sudetenland blah blah Ribbentropp path, but instead i went with neurath

[scenic spade]

italy got wiped

[bright forum]

Thank you, I was trying to just have them defend the shores, but I take it I needed to be more proactive.

[indigo violet]

7 years with only 1 hour played?

[bright forum]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[scenic spade]

yeah

my computer is just fast

[indigo violet]

Fair enough

[grizzled lark]

I think if someone is saying something stupid it is only natural to tell them they are full of shit rather than let them spread it on the walls

[ivory hull]

you wouldnt do that in real life would you? just have respect online and behave

[grizzled lark]

I would do it in real life

How do you know what type of person I am

If someone is wrong i tell them they are speaking BS

[ivory hull]

if you didnt get teached how to be polite, then thats how it is

but this is not the place for that kinda discussion

[tender swift]

I'd rather be honest about it but ok

[indigo violet]

Bro can you all just chill

Actual kindergarten rn

[ivory hull]

they all have the same tag, theyre prolly his little goons

lets just ignore that

and use this chat how its intented to use

[grizzled lark]

I am a polite person when someone is being correct or is trying to understand the point I am making while disagreeing . I am aggressive when someone cant take criticism or has too soft of a skin. You are on the internet. The fact that someone wont tell you something in real life doesn't mean they cant on the internet. So grow a thicker skin, accept people can insult you and just listen to people who clearly are better than you to learn

[ivory hull]

do you think i care that someone insulted me online? i just said that i think being polite and having respect should be the first approach to a conversation

[misty fossil]

i think you need to log off for a bit

some battles are not worth fighting

[heavy vigil]

Why so defensive?

If you dont care, dont bother to reply

:>

[grizzled lark]

If you didn't care you wouldn't have put up with any of this lmao

[misty fossil]

if im pissed i would be so defensive as well

just log off steve

its for the best

[ivory hull]

i dont think they understand the sense behind being polite or having mutual respect

[misty fossil]

so what

thats life

you'll run into hordes of people like that

would you want to even care about what they do or how they think

[ivory hull]

i already did, but in rl people dont talk like that

[misty fossil]

why should you?

nah they will

at least thats how it is in vietnam

[ivory hull]

because even if your behavior is wrong, its never too late to change and turn your way the right way

[grizzled lark]

I am polite when the person isn't getting defensive over everything. Being called a smartass is nothing that should trigger such a response. Like a joking insult is nothing to get mad at

[ivory hull]

i wouldnt have gotten "mad" but he did the same thing yesterday

like not having respect

and not being polite

i just dont think that should be a way of life

[misty fossil]

he never talked like that to me

so idk

[grizzled lark]

Some people just sound more aggressive than they are

[ivory hull]

i think this is all a big misunderstanding

[grizzled lark]

Or talk in a more mean tone than they mean

[ivory hull]

lets just talk about hoi4

[heavy vigil]

Hoi4

[ivory hull]

thats from the dev diary?

[misty fossil]

no armour?

[heavy vigil]

From one of the corners iirc

[heavy vigil]

Left

[tiny iris]

I am thinking about buying BBA solely for the reason that you can use your puppets resources. But I do want götterdammerung. Why Paradox, why do you put one game changing feature in your shitty overpriced DLC!!!!

[carmine prism]

is this all cored in the alt hist🥀

[heavy vigil]

BBA is trash content wise

Worst major dlc

[tiny iris]

Yes but I see ISP and them using puppets then using their resources in the BBA changed peace conference. If you want resources without BBA, you have to directly annex them.

[heavy vigil]

Perfect

[carmine prism]

@heavy pagoda

[heavy vigil]

As you should

[tiny iris]

So I don't need BBA?

Wow.

I am so happy.

[heavy vigil]

nah i get it

Id prefer GDR

[tiny iris]

Hungary is my favorite nation to play as so it is a must buy for me.

[blazing belfry]

is that live briefing in around an hour? my time zone converter says so..

[thorny pond]

it takes long to become strong with it no?

[tiny iris]

You mean skilled?

[thorny pond]

u start with 18 factories

so idk

[forest maple]

Question rather than make a Hearts of Iron 5 would it be easier to rebuild the core engine of Hearts of Iron 4 from scratch rather than starting all over from the beginning?

[tardy marten]

Hoi5 with unreal Engine, imagine

[scenic spade]

the final days

final second

wow is it late

when will theyy cap

[eternal palm]

Hungary needs to cap

[scenic spade]

ah

well they ded

[tardy marten]

Let horty be alive

He wants battleship, that's all

[eternal palm]

Never

[misty fossil]

doesnt BBA give tank designer?

[eternal palm]

No that's nsb

Bba is air designer

[misty fossil]

what does it give

ah

i mean

air designer is op

i cant see why i wouldnt spend 20usd for that

also i feel like you could have at least apologised to steve to defuse the tension, even though i know you're not exactly in the wrong

im just saying because sometimes it doesnt hurt your ego to say sorry

[eternal palm]

Bro. Are you for real right now.

[misty fossil]

but thats me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal palm]

I thought we were done with this

[misty fossil]

well

idk

[scenic spade]

earth post treaty

[eternal palm]

The franconians are screaming rn

[scenic spade]

the french?

[eternal palm]

No no the franconians, its part of Bavaria, they're part of East Germany

[scenic spade]

yeah they defo are

[eternal palm]

The predecessors of the French are the franks. The franconians are Germans

[scenic spade]

yoo ukraine is independent

lmoa

lmao

its not a puppet

[eternal palm]

Lol

[scenic spade]

so is transylvania

two romanias and two bulgarias

[eternal palm]

Hungary got away with annexing transylvania

[scenic spade]

and mussolini and axis are still around

and sami is nice

[little compass]

https://tenor.com/view/btr-60-fsb-russia-btr-apc-gif-12131298729787867686

[scenic spade]

communist finland has election

is the soviet onion achievemement hard

i have it but i never even tried to get it

[azure palm]

Monarchist Germany is the most overpowerd nation ever. Just integrate half of europe, conquer the other half and then form european union, integrate EVERYTHING and then just do holy roman empire because it looks better

[blazing belfry]

i think its easy in non historical if you get early war with turkiye taking both turkiye and romania as puppets, mow finland down and make puppet, somehow get poland puppet, take china some how and middle east depends

fascist uk seems to be your best friend in this run (because of the weakening of the allies)

[tardy marten]

Fascists German hate fascist UK but not Monarch UK

[blazing belfry]

yeah its pretty bizarre.. (new uk dlc in the future hopefully 🥺 )

[tardy marten]

Idk about Oswald, so I'm not sure

[scenic spade]

what

i got it

i have played the ussr 5 times

and both times lost imediately

[honest night]

It’s because you do anti ger speech I believe in desiscions

[tardy marten]

I see

Just a bit curious about Oswald and Hitler relations

[honest night]

Irl they had good relations I believe

[north spoke]

Hopefully new UK and USA dlc

The USA focus tree is downright weird

It's confusing with no real path

[slow nova]

Soviet bro in Afghanistan 1980s

[little compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308354496493260831/1403859056925474967/0000-0036-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[cedar lance]

omg

cant wait for rangers

[quiet yacht]

Is true that la resistance will be integrated into the base game?

[scenic spade]

no

MTG is

[little compass]

unfortunately

[jovial carbon]

why??

[meager dock]

This feels great

[daring tundra]

Not yet, but it will most likely be eventually

[little compass]

because i dont want paradox to jus steal my money?

[daring tundra]

When did you buy it?

[jovial carbon]

that was 6 years ago

[little compass]

ok and?

plus i didnt get it 6 years ago

[jovial carbon]

it has to be intergrated at some point

[little compass]

no it doesnt

if u r gonna integrate the dlc then compensate us fairly

you cant just steal my money

[jovial carbon]

you got it 6 years earlier than the others who didn't

[little compass]

i dont care

its still stealing

i didnt pay for "early access"

i paid to own a product

[daring tundra]

Look mate, I bought it a year ago for something like 10 euros. It is not that expensive and I got like 400 hours of fun with it. I think it is a fair price. It would be nice if they gave us something, but you aren't getting stolen

[tardy marten]

What?! Aw hell naw 15 armors

[little compass]

how am i not getting stolen

i mpaid for a product

[jovial carbon]

what if you had to pay for all of the other dlcs that got intergrated

[little compass]

anfd then yjeu just integrate it in the game

[jovial carbon]

theres like 4 or 5 of them

[tardy marten]

Anti air is enough to destroy this

[little compass]

i did pay for them

and then they got integrated

and then i got nothing in return

at least give us the goddamn mechanics of the next dlc for free

for us that paid

[daring tundra]

So, under your logic, people who bought CK2 should have protested when it was made free?

After CK3 released

[little compass]

yes??????

i didnt pay you to make it free

[jovial carbon]

why is making it free so bad?

[little compass]

because we are getting nothing in return

i would have been

perfectly fine

if they gave us something in return

but they aerent

[jovial carbon]

they're not taking anything away

[little compass]

only my money

[jovial carbon]

they just made a dlc that you bought years ago free

how is that taking your money

[dull merlin]

Uhh.... Czechia stealing fr fr?

[little compass]

i feel like thats pretty self explanatory.

[jovial carbon]

no?

you bought a thing and then they made it free?

why would you care

[little compass]

because im getting nothing in retyrn???

dude

whats so hard to understand

[jovial carbon]

why do you even care if it is free

other people that couldnt afford it can now get it

[little compass]

BECAUSE I AM GETTING NOTHING IN TETURN HOW MANY TIMES DO I GOTTA SAY IT

i didnt pay them

to make it free

[jovial carbon]

thats not on you

[little compass]

are you msmoking crack'

[daring tundra]

You got many hours of gameplay

[little compass]

and

[slow nova]

holy russian empire

🗿

chad

[daring tundra]

I would understand your position if you had bought the dlc the week before it was announced, but if you have been here for years you are being irrational

[acoustic island]

Why did the Man the Guns DLC went Free?!

[daring tundra]

What do you mean "and?" It is what you bought

[safe wing]

Japan is going communist

I won't have to worry about them

[little compass]

i didnt pay for early access.

[daring tundra]

Because they are reworking navy again and most likely the US and UK will get reworked

[safe wing]

I'm going Tsarist BTW

so I guess Germany first considering they did Rhineland

[daring tundra]

You bought the right to play with those mechanics and focus trees.

It doesn't mean Paradox can't decide to make it free at some point

[little compass]

and now they are giving that to everyone and im getting nothing

[safe wing]

what year did you get man the guns BTW

[little compass]

if i knew it would have been made free

[safe wing]

I got it in December 2019

[little compass]

i wouldnt have bought it

[safe wing]

which was 6 years ago

[acoustic island]

Are you Serious?!

[little compass]

2023

[daring tundra]

They don't owe you or me anything except quality for the content we paid for

[little compass]

waste of money

[acoustic island]

Where is my Benefits since I am a Paid DLC user?

[little compass]

they owe me my money back or the mechanics of the next dlc for free

[safe wing]

I thought Hoi4's dev cycle would have ended by 2022 TBH

[little compass]

u get none

u get nothing in return

[daring tundra]

There are no benefits, please don't rant like @little compass because it is pointless

[little compass]

and 99% of this server support sthos

[acoustic island]

SHIP!

[acoustic island]

I was so angry that I bought the DLC for features just for it to be Free!

After all these years

[little compass]

they have every right to be angry abt it

[eternal palm]

Imagine how I felt when they made DoD, WTT and TfV free when I bought all of those dlcs back in 2020

[violet hawk]

ALL PRAISE TO THE PARADOX

IN THE UTMOST

[eternal palm]

I bought every dlc they ever released for this game

And they're not unique in doing that

Destiny 2 players have spent so much money on dlcs that literally got removed from the game in 2021

[acoustic island]

I brought all the Expansion DLC's just for One of them to be Free in 2025

[eternal palm]

They also got nothing

[safe wing]

🍿

[eternal palm]

Yea so stop whining. This is just how this works

It's like eh

[daring tundra]

But here they didn't remove them. They are just making them free. You still can play the content. It is just that other people get it for free

[little compass]

we were supposed to get compensatesd fpr those too but we only got like 3 special projects

[eternal palm]

Are we?

All we buy is a license, we don't own anything

How can u be compensated for something you are technically renting

[acoustic island]

I should be Complaining at the Paradox Forums. but I was Banned there

[eternal palm]

That's a completely different discussion im not going to get into but this is how it is. Go work at pdx if u wanna change it

[eternal palm]

Lol. Lmao even

Careful now

Server rules

[copper cobalt]

Oh

[eternal palm]

||but you're not wrong||

[copper cobalt]

What's the difference its just early access to the free shit 😎

[hoary knot]

AVE CESARE LEGITIMUS IMPERATOR

[safe wing]

just don't be chesky falat a user who death threated the devs over all this

[copper cobalt]

Eastern Rome?

[copper cobalt]

Spicy

[safe wing]

he got banned

[copper cobalt]

Is western Rome in the new world

[safe wing]

and he tried to retract his statement

[safe wing]

yes

[copper cobalt]

Too hot to handle

[copper cobalt]

I retract mine too

[safe wing]

yours is fine because it doesn't preach violence

[copper cobalt]

Ain't dying on no hills

[hybrid frigate]

In case you just missed your Japan Live Stream (including a Pearl Harbor raid): https://youtube.com/live/wMnOU7e_FgU

[cedar lance]

ill make ranger squads sections platoons companies regiments battalions brigades divs and corps

@heavy vigil

[safe wing]

Tora Tora Tora

[sage plover]

ello lads

what you lot upto?

[cedar lance]

not much

hbu

[sage plover]

just applying to some apprenticeships, yk how it is mate

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

been abit of a struggle though

feels like nowadays you need either connections or luck to get anything worth a shot

[warm forum]

BANZAI.

[fallen vigil]

yeah im not sure im buying this dlc

until its on sale

its not the money its the principle

why does it cost so much

[sage plover]

how much it cost?

[fallen vigil]

50$

[sage plover]

BLOODY HELL

thats like, £40 here

[fallen vigil]

for japan china phillipines indonesia

and uhm

i think thailand

not sure about thailan

[warm forum]

I never buy any DLC, i only subscribe, it's much more worth

[sage plover]

siam def has to be included

tbh tho, i probally will get it

i love playing the sort of island naval focus countrys

[fallen vigil]

how much is the subscription

[sage plover]

(im british, it comes from the soul)
and ive held off of japan cuz of its super old focus tree

so i feel like the DLC will be worth it to me, cuz japan just feels like evil britain during ww2

[fallen vigil]

idk i like doing communist japan

[cedar lance]

ill buy the expansion pass 2

[warm forum]

Here, the full year subscrition sums up about ~ R$ 104,00.

[cedar lance]

i always like new content

[warm forum]

In dollars, that is $ 19.83

[fallen vigil]

oh

[sage plover]

yeahh

[fallen vigil]

so like your in profit for like

7 years

67 years

6-7 years

haha

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

for hoi4 it feels weird not playing with the DLC's

[warm forum]

Sort of

[cedar lance]

i always buy new DLCs and expansions

[fallen vigil]

someone give me a fun achievement which isnt hell

[sage plover]

its like rimworld, you feel like your missing out without em

[warm forum]

And some DLCs eventually become part of the main-game

[sage plover]

greater hungary?

[warm forum]

Other DLCs come

[cedar lance]

yeah same

[fallen vigil]

i have like 200 hours in eu4 and didnt buy any dlc idk what they add to the game

[fallen vigil]

mkay

[heavy vigil]

Play jan mayen

[warm forum]

I think it makes it more worth to pay the subscription than buying them individually

[fallen vigil]

isnt the penguin nation or smth

[sage plover]

for some reason i just, love greater hungary and the austria-hungary stuff

[heavy vigil]

Its in europe

I think

[sage plover]

i think its the borders

[tardy marten]

-civilian economy
-minus 30% of making civs

Huh

Why game

[sage plover]

austria hungary just looks so smooth, and hungary looks even smoother

[cedar lance]

hey united

[sage plover]

just a perfect blob (ignore croatia)

[fallen vigil]

hungary more like full 🤣

plz laugh

[cedar lance]

are you gonna buy the NEW expansion pass 2?

[tardy marten]

I thought civilian economy making any civilian stuffs much faster

[fallen vigil]

idk what that is

[sage plover]

with the money over christmas, yeah

[cedar lance]

nice

[tardy marten]

But nah

[sage plover]

</3

[fallen vigil]

how many hours do u have

[tardy marten]

It's just a joke

But why not making war economy has less speed to make any civilian stuffs but not military industry

[fallen vigil]

i finished all ussr and china achievements

[cedar lance]

should i buy the expansion pass 2 next month?

[fallow grove]

I hope they will release good stuff because i purchased expansion pass 2 when they announced it

[tardy marten]

And civilian economy for making civs things faster

[sage plover]

ima be honest, i havent played china

china scares me

[fallen vigil]

i only played it twice which was 5 years ago and today

[warm forum]

Can you believe i never played Main China?

[fallen vigil]

china is SUPRISNGLY fun

[sage plover]

not even because i think it'll be uber difficult, but its just the focus tree

[warm forum]

I have like dozens of China gameplays

[sage plover]

is so old

[warm forum]

All with Communist China

[cedar lance]

someone answer pls

[warm forum]

long live the Chairman

[sage plover]

if i see a 70 day focus i crash out

[fallow grove]

Yes

[cedar lance]

alr thx

[warm forum]

i love playing the underdog

[cedar lance]

even tho it costs like 48 euros

[warm forum]

But Communist China is like

the underdog's underdog

[tardy marten]

This is, works sometimes against ai

Since ai never make 36 width

[cedar lance]

48.77 euros to be exact

in europe

[sage plover]

AUGH I HATE THE UK GOVERNMENT WEBSITE

IM GONNA THROW MY MUG INTO THE SCREEN I SWEAR

[warm forum]

Embargo then now

[dry kayak]

try with the italian ones, sometimes they work! ahahhahaha

[tardy marten]

Cancel military access

[sage plover]

im not italian </3

[cedar lance]

why does so MANY new stuff cost SO MUCH on steam?

[sage plover]

some big company raises game prices, so every other company must also raise prices

cuz yes

[cedar lance]

damn

wut

[warm forum]

Yep

Like, when a certain company charges ~ 100 $ for a DLC

[dry kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[warm forum]

And people buy

Other companies are like: "Wait, we can do that too"

[sage plover]

i love nintendo :D

</3

[cedar lance]

like bf6 costs 70 euros

[warm forum]

even so, i love Paradox for having that Subscription for all the DLCs yearly or monthly

[cedar lance]

i only get 50 euros per 1 month to buy games or dlcs etc

[sage plover]

i really hope this years wave of indie games shakes up the industry enough so companys think "damn, maybe i SHOULDNT charge £100 for a game plus micro transactions"

[fallen vigil]

how do i release jan mayen

[warm forum]

GOD BLESS

[sage plover]

i dont even play silksong, but id much rather buy it then the shit they shovel nowadays

this is why i stick to terraria </3

[heavy vigil]

Gotta get the event as poland

Or use commands

[cedar lance]

is it worth it to pay 48 euros to buy the NEW expansion pass 2?

[sage plover]

remember when the bar for AAA games was RDR2?

or GTA5

good times </3

[warm forum]

100%

[warm forum]

Based af

[warm forum]

The GOTY Awards even tried criticizing the industry

By giving AstroBot the GOTY Award

It's a fun platform game, to play with friends or family

And it doesn't cost ~ 150$

[cedar lance]

answer

[sage plover]

u ever played netherlands btw?

id assume so

[warm forum]

Not yet!!! But i'm looking forward to

[sage plover]

its amazing for defensive wars

[warm forum]

I only played Belgium from the Benelux

[sage plover]

the democratic path lets you core the whole benelux

[warm forum]

And did the Fortress Luxembourg meme

[sage plover]

if u play it right, you can beat the nazi's so badly you loose no tiles

i did that once, to the point i had to SWAY THE GAME so germany could take france

[cedar lance]

whats a good starter nation to play as?

[sage plover]

i personally love italy

it starts off in a low-stakes war with ethiopia

[cedar lance]

personally i like Estonia becus im estonian

[sage plover]

its got good terrain defensively, weak nations around it you can conquer (balkans, turkey, greece, albania) it has a decent everything without being OP. and if you loose, germany can carry you

[warm forum]

Estonia is not recommended, because Stalin will demand your annexation at one point, if you're not communist

[warm forum]

I'm gonna give it a try

[cedar lance]

ik

i always reject it

becus i have a WAY stronger army

[sage plover]

good navy but it isnt the best, so you can learn navy with a good start. good built up airforce and army. and a modern focus tree that lets you go down a variety of fun paths

italy is top tier for me, and a great nation to learn on

[warm forum]

I think Italy is the top tier for learning, in fact

[slim nexus]

if there is no Mongolia, I'll do Sudoku

https://tenor.com/view/sudoku-gif-9429499

[warm forum]

The country i learned the game with was Communist China, it's great to learn the defending basics

But i got my ass kicked like dozens of times

Not recommended

[sage plover]

there better be a new mongolia focus tree

if i cant reform the mongol empire, ima crash out

[cedar lance]

im gonna use the NEW Ranger unit A LOT

[warm forum]

i literally could not understand when i saw this wasn't in the base game

like guys, c'mon

MONGOL EMPIRE?????

[sage plover]

IF YOU CAN CORE ALL OF THE AMERICAS AS CHILE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CORE 90% OF EURASIA AS MONGOLIA

[warm forum]

HOW IT ISN'T THERE?

[sage plover]

we have the new mongol empire, which is just mongolia </3

tbh tho

i think the great powers need a majour rework

[safe wing]

You can core Scotland and Ireland as Rome too

Even though Rome never took over the areas historically

[sage plover]

like, a new dlc called "the great powers pack" or sumin, that reworks france, UK and america

[safe wing]

So like Dominion from EU4

[warm forum]

I was talking about this with a modder friend of mine

No other Major Country is as enjoyable and immersive as the Soviet Union

Plus

[sage plover]

aint saying its a bad thing chile can core all of america, just that its silly when mongol cant reform mongol empire

[safe wing]

True

[warm forum]

The Gotterdamerung DLC should've reworked France and UK too

France, UK and Germany should always be linked in reworks in DLCs

[sage plover]

germany is, but other then germany and soviets the great powers suck

[warm forum]

Because they are the big Major European Boys

[sage plover]

(italy is not considered a great power by us)

[sage plover]

i think it makes sense why tho

why it wasnt

gotterdamerung was for like, germanic countrys

the lowlands, austria, germany

and no matter how much we like to say it, england is barely germanic

its like the weird second cousin you dont invite to family gatherings

[warm forum]

What is sad, is just that Germany is now way too cooler, complex and fun to play than the other two

I think they should always be side by side, because they dictate the rhythm of the war

[sage plover]

UK feels so dull after 2-3 playthroughs, cuz the alt hist paths are basically all the same

facist and imperial alt hist legit have the same path

[safe wing]

I like my realpolitik monarchist Germany playthroughs

[sage plover]

PEAK

[warm forum]

gigachad

[sage plover]

i love gaslighting france into going communist, so i dont have to deal with the british

ngl i wish i knew more ppl who played tho, all my friends dont and i wanna play a private multiplayer game </3

public multiplayer scares me

[tepid crown]

Why

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[bright oracle]

its 1941 btw

they also spent like 3 years with no borders moving when the republic had 1 province

[sage plover]

i play casually

i dont follow meta divisions or strats

[cedar lance]

hey united

[sage plover]

in ask for help ive already had issues for saying i like line artillery </3

[sage plover]

ello

[cedar lance]

wassup

i like using mods on HOI4

[sage plover]

ye?

[cedar lance]

so it improves my hoi4 games

i like the Cold war iron curtain mod

[safe wing]

Does anyone use the monarchist infantry names for their infantry divs as imperial Germany?

[safe wing]

I do 22/0 and 10/8’s my beloved

[tepid crown]

Pdx just needs to buff line arty

[sage plover]

i am a line artillery enjoyer

7/2 my beloved

[safe wing]

I was

But I think they shouldn’t be trash like they are now

[tepid crown]

It just cost too much equipment for the little it actually does now

[sage plover]

idk man

ive seen ppl with execel spreadsheets

i just have like, 4-5 div templates in my head that work decently well

[cedar lance]

im gonna supply aid assist help send lend lease and vast amounts of equipment and tech to my allies

[sage plover]

line artillery works in single player, thats all that matters to me </3

plus ive heard public multiplayer is just packed with sweats

i dont wanna sweat, i wanna chat casually and relax </3

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

whatcu think bout this idea?

[sage plover]

more equipment to ppl on the front always helps

[paper echo]

multiplayer sucks anyways

[sage plover]

just make sure your convoys dont get raised

raided*

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

yes

[sage plover]

i can imagine

[cedar lance]

ill give vast amounts of equipments techs and sell a lot of other stuff to my allies

[sage plover]

i play alot of rise of nations which is roblox hoi4

[paper echo]

it runs slower and if the person you play with has a bad device its so annoying

[cedar lance]

what techs and equipments should i sell off

[sage plover]

ive played abit w some ppl i found, it can get annoying but if u have good wifi is not that bad

my only issue is the ppl, i played once w a random guy from here, and it got into politics

</3

[paper echo]

the main factor is the devices of the people.for example i have a pc that runs hoi4 well but my friend has a trash laptop and when we play it runs so slow

and we play at 4 speed

[sage plover]

fair

tbh speed is abit annoying on multiplayer

[cedar lance]

ey answer

[sage plover]

its hard to stay consistantly on 5 speed, if not impossible

[paper echo]

yeah 4 speed is the normal on mp

the most stable one

[sage plover]

on the internal market i usually just sell anything i dont need at that moment

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

esspecially at the start of the game, selling everything is OP

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

cuz 90% of the world is in equiptment deficit

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

so if u delete your army and sell it all to internal market at max price, u get a nice boost

[cedar lance]

if you have a good military industries then alr

[sage plover]

yeah, my pc can run hoi4 well enough

my wifi luckily keeps things stable, 250 MBS

but before, it was horrendous

[paper echo]

i have 75-90 mbps

[sage plover]

i used to be lucky if i got 50 </3

[cedar lance]

i do like selling off A LOT LOADS of surplus equipments and techs

like if i have a surplus

as Estonia

ill deploy thousands of troops

[paper echo]

i never sold equipment

i just use it

[sage plover]

its super good early game

[paper echo]

fair

[sage plover]

like as france or uk, u can sell off all your equiptment and army, and u basically have a 25% construction speed boost for the next few years

[paper echo]

why build factories when you can steal them 🤑

[sage plover]

democracy </3

[cedar lance]

YEET

i do always buy a LOT LOADS of stuff

from the int market

[sage plover]

i only buy from the int market abit if i need to bolster my army fast

as like, hungary or austria

anywhere else, i just make it myself

[cedar lance]

alr

i buy all types of equipments and techs

and also get licenses and lend lease

[sage plover]

ooh i never buy airforce </3

if im gonna bother with an airforce, its gonna be of my own construction

if not, anti air will work for me

[cedar lance]

alr

[heavy vigil]

i love japan

[cedar lance]

i love Estonia

[sage plover]

netherlands peak

[paper echo]

i love poland

the paths are fun

[slim nexus]

You were right 💯

[sage plover]

i wanna play netherlands now

bog it

[paper echo]

do eu

[sage plover]

NEVER

NOT AGAIN </3

[paper echo]

why

i once did eu and it went good till FRANCE DECIDED NOT TO DEFEND 1 SINGLE TILE AND IT CAPPED

so i capped after

[sage plover]

1: democracy cringe.
2: its so tedious and RNG based

"Ooh i hope this country agrees to join and accept federalization, if not im screwed :D"

[cedar lance]

@sage plover what stuff should i buy on the int market?

[sage plover]

i usually stick to just guns, artillery and anti-air. convoys, trains and trucks

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

i use int mark just to bolster my ranks

[cedar lance]

alr

[sage plover]

i aint no pro tho, so take what i say w a grain of salt lol

[paper echo]

we ALL rocking japan when dlc is out

im gonna play the commie path and do asian union

or find the most schizo path

[bright oracle]

i love playing democracy

it truly is the goatest of all ideologies

playing democratic germany and setting all other majors to communism and making them get the max buffs

is fun

also 10 million people died in the sino japanese war

which is fun

[cedar lance]

@sage plover i do like buying anything and everything on the int market

[tardy marten]

How having Marx as photo figure makes 200 people weekly

[bright oracle]

gets people in the mood to make more

(only if their dirty commies who hate freedom)

[tardy marten]

People get neutron activates when see Marx photo

Truly hoi4 men and women moments

[bright oracle]

i had to use toolpack to end the spanish civil war cuz they were stuck on the baleares

[tardy marten]

Hoi4 but every province has max forts

[bright oracle]

????

[sage plover]

who wouldnt

[bright oracle]

this war is incredible

[sage plover]

the beard alone is immaculate

[tardy marten]

I can make hundred thousand manpower as tannu Tuva, rill

[safe wing]

500 MP weekly

[wet plover]

Is there a guide somewhere on how to play Germany 🙏

I’ve tried 3 times and just cannot do good

[cedar lance]

who here is gonna use the Ranger unit?

[safe wing]

Bittersteel for focuses not templates

[tardy marten]

Hoi4 men and women likes him and want to make more Manpower

I guess be commie is how to make more people

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/kamino-starwars-attackoftheclones-gif-5008855

[bright oracle]

i should get outside and make poland some manpower instead of playing this

[tardy marten]

Poland government still disarmed nations, why should I make more for poland

[safe wing]

🤨

[tardy marten]

Too lazy, need more war support and higher conscription

[cedar lance]

im bored

[bright oracle]

i have been volounteer only my entire game, just annexed other nations through democratic germany and disbanded their armies for free manpower

[tardy marten]

Stealing other nation children

Loves how my Slovakia ally give me 1 guns each months and 1 division as volunteers

[valid prairie]

this spells the end of the axis

[bright oracle]

it was alyways gonna be this way

[valid prairie]

if i didnt step in the allies had no chance

[limpid zenith]

guys, which brazilian monarchist leader is better

[sage plover]

sumin tells me your right

[valid prairie]

they lost suez and i had to save them

[bright oracle]

they have america?

[valid prairie]

yes

but they only have 200 divs

[bright oracle]

they didnt get sealioned

they can still pull back

i've seen them do bigger recoveries

[valid prairie]

true, but in a 1950's game i had the allies were fried

all of egypt was german

and i killed japan so america didnt join

bit of a mistake on my part

[tardy marten]

Germans has 40k guns deficit as my ai ally

What is Hitler doing? Idk

[bright oracle]

were not even at war yet and commie france has all my facilities ready to raid

except for my nuclear facility becuase i put it in the alps and that somehow changes things

[valid prairie]

that makes sense, if stuff is hidden and fortified it will be harder to raid it

[bright oracle]

yeh

[warm forum]

Build static anti-air

They are cheap

[cedar lance]

i wish i could get 50 or 65 euros PER DAY

[warm forum]

And each slot gives a percentage of sucess against raids

[sonic sand]

PLEASE GERMANY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST CAPITULATE ALREADY YOU AREN"T WINNING THIS

[tardy marten]

Bitter lose spirit

[sonic sand]

oh i know

its just

stupid

that is stupid

[sonic sand]

they have like 10 tiles left

[sonic sand]

huh

so

[tardy marten]

Hitler still alive even when Berlin is occupied

[sonic sand]

it gives you political power

[bright oracle]

sadly, cant print money

it just costs 0

[sage plover]

evacuated assets?

wazzat

[bright oracle]

r56

if your in exile

you get that

[sonic sand]

no idea

[sage plover]

oooh

[tardy marten]

Oh I know, Hitler on the way to Argentina

[eternal palm]

Literally doesn't add surrender limit lol?

[tardy marten]

Idk, it's just they have better surrender limit

[eternal palm]

Hamburg still isn't capped

[sage plover]

i have to keep hitler alive if i want to do the netherlands monarchist path </3

[tardy marten]

Like Soviet

[eternal palm]

They literally don't

U just didn't take all of the vps yet

[eternal palm]

Also don't get any

5% wow

[bright oracle]

were not even at war 😭

how do they target the SAME FACILITY TWICE

[eternal palm]

Different countries

[sage plover]

"lightning never strikes twice" acting ahh

[tardy marten]

Miss old nukes

Just add nukes and debug nuking

Fun ai game

[bright oracle]

used to be able to flicker nuke, now you have to do gambling

many such cases

[sonic sand]

i took ALL of the victory points man. I have berlin, I have München I have Nuremburg my allies have Frankfurt they have Hamburg, Danzig and Gdynia

those are their cities

[eternal palm]

Yea hamburg is the second biggest vp in germany kek

[bright oracle]

what doeds their thing in the war thing say

[eternal palm]

Also gdynia and Danzig aren't small either

[fallen vigil]

tbf u didnt take hamburg

[bright oracle]

how close are they to capitulation

[sonic sand]

18%

[eternal palm]

That's what I'm saying

[sonic sand]

they cap at 10

[sonic sand]

i know but that is literally all thats left

and its bs

[bright oracle]

then you have your anwser you need 8% more points

[eternal palm]

It really isn't

Just take it lmao?

[bright oracle]

irl we had to get them to 0%

[eternal palm]

They're dead already

[sonic sand]

they have

[bright oracle]

yall kids have it easy

[sonic sand]

8 troops

and a railway gun

[eternal palm]

And you can't beat that lol?

Skill issue actually

[bright oracle]

we had to run through norway and allat

[tardy marten]

You need every inch of German territory get occupied then

[sonic sand]

all hitting last stand

[bright oracle]

yeah

[sonic sand]

they just do infinite last stands

[tardy marten]

Last stand is just last stand

[sonic sand]

and they have a railway gun

[tardy marten]

Last stand cost it's strength

[sonic sand]

its across a river Iirc

[tardy marten]

Lost manpower, lost guns, and their helmet will go off

Last stand is not problem

[sonic sand]

a n d they got a railway gun so I do no damage

[bright oracle]

also i love how social democratic germany gives me a nordic flag

i AM part of the team

[sonic sand]

germany is for the most part a nordic esque country

[tardy marten]

Communist Austria Hungaria is goat

[eternal palm]

Don't talk like you've been therr

[eternal palm]

Skill issue

Just be better

[sonic sand]

i will get them eventually

[bright oracle]

i was there in spirit

[sudden thistle]

Wait wrong chat

[sonic sand]

im just laughing because its a hopeless situation and no one in their right mind would continue the war with 2 of your cities not even being your cities

[sudden thistle]

Am I cooked

[tardy marten]

If you didn't take city, they won't surrender

[sonic sand]

still the wrong chat

[tardy marten]

Even if you have all non city province, they won't surrender

[sonic sand]

i know

[sudden thistle]

The image loaded in after I sent the first one

[sonic sand]

yea

[sudden thistle]

I love rural internet

[sonic sand]

i have to wait like

5 minutes for my photos to upload whenever im playing lategame hoi4

[eternal palm]

Bruv your parents weren't even a thought pipe down

[tardy marten]

Brute force, force attack, keep your army on attack

[tardy marten]

How to break last stand

[sonic sand]

thing is my army is all over the place

[bright oracle]

nah i was saving some private called "ryan"

[tardy marten]

Force attack then

[sonic sand]

like im playing hungary there isn't much of an army to work with

and im fighting the italians, bulgarians, germans and romanians

so I need the bulk of my army elsewhere dealing with that mess

[hoary mortar]

GET BACK HERE U YELLOW BELLIED COWARDS

[hoary mortar]

rip carrier

[sonic sand]

@tardy marten by the way the only reason I haven't done anything yet is because I took the screenshot right as I was logging off

[sonic sand]

the destroyer of doom

one destroyer sunk a carrier

[hoary mortar]

damn

[hoary mortar]

zipped right through the line and sunk it lmao

[tardy marten]

Yeah, idk why that happen I sunk German pride battleship when I just guarding convoy with my cheap battle destroyer

[sonic sand]

imagine the leader hearing about this

"sir we lost a carrier"

"dam! how'd it get sunk?"

"a single destroyer sunk it"

[hoary mortar]

lmao

[sonic sand]

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN A SINGLE DESTROYER SUNK OUR CARRIER"

[hoary mortar]

That destryoer's crew will be honored as heros

[sonic sand]

"did you at least put the destroyer to the bottom of the ocean?"

[hoary mortar]

"I- I- DUNNO SIR, THEY JUST DODGED OUR GUNS AND TORPEDO STRIKED IT"

[sonic sand]

"no sir it got away"

oh man

anyways

[hoary mortar]

lmao

also i produced over 1k naval bobmers but they're marked as fighers bruh

[safe wing]

I always delete the army as Imperial Germany before the civil war

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-breakdance-gif-26100320

[safe wing]

it works

because the Nazis have to build an army from scratch too

[daring geyser]

the next hoi4 dlc looks kind of fire

[devout trench]

Space engineers is fire

[hoary mortar]

Such a pain trying to find the main UK fleet

[sudden thistle]

Fr

[sudden thistle]

I’m doing co-op on it with freinds

[slim nexus]

At least we know what to do after 1947

[azure palm]

Since when is Tannu Tuva a Major?

[sudden thistle]

We got it like Monday i think

[slim nexus]

Since when is NOT a major?

[daring geyser]

@sudden thistle why do you have a stalin pfp on the other server and on this server you're an edgy anime girl

it's like

[devout trench]

Have you guys learned how to play it yet

[daring geyser]

that changes your entire personality

[slim nexus]

Because is polish

[sudden thistle]

I’m too lazy to change this pfp back to normal

[sudden thistle]

We got 2 windmills

And a crashed car

[hoary mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-nuke-gif-15961128

[umbral agate]

am i cooked?

italy has 0 divs

and i have 4 tanks on their boarder

[autumn linden]

hopefully Britain will get a major rework like Germany soon (its polictal trees are barebones and industry hasnt changed much since launch)

[sudden thistle]

Who r u

[tepid crown]

Probably after USA

[sage plover]

i hope bruh

[sage plover]

i feel like if there were to rework the US focus tree, its gonna be in a DLC with the english focus tree

it would be weird if they do US but not britain

[tepid crown]

I don’t see them doing 2 majors for 1 dlc

[hoary mortar]

most of my submarines died so trying to find and kill the main British fleet is annoying af

[sage plover]

🤷‍♂️ their doing china and japan

ik china technically isnt a majour

but it has a big arse focus tree

[tepid crown]

China isn’t really a major like us and uk

[sage plover]

ye but its huge, alot of MP and its gonna have a big focus tree

plus alot of industrial potential

and features

[autumn linden]

like Britain could go mega monarchy / back into imperialist or hard line commie (birthplace of industrial revolution) . back with commonwealth / parliament mechanics

[hoary mortar]

Any tips for hunting the British main fleet? Trying with my subs on raiding(very few of 'em left)
Got radars all along French coast too, my navy needs to EAT

[umbral agate]

the germany

my situation is fine

its everyone elses

i have like 30 tanls

tanks

and like 2mil man power

but italy and spain keep getting naval invaded

[sudden thistle]

Then lock in and save them

[umbral agate]

and i forgot to do colabs on the soviet

[autumn linden]

build more sub II's

[umbral agate]

i took moscow and leningrad

[hoary mortar]

Nice. now get stalingrad

[tepid crown]

Even so, china is a nation that almost always gets annexed by Japan

[sage plover]

not in the games i play?

usually china starts to beat em back

[mint acorn]

question hypothetically could i take on the uk with both the french and italian fleet

[tepid crown]

If Japan is player. Not ai

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[sage plover]

oh well yeah

[sage plover]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

I always see Japanese AI kill China wdym

[mint acorn]

so this should be easy

[tepid crown]

Or with sheep mod

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[sage plover]

i dont? sometimes i see reorganized government of china, but usually japan takes the coast or close to it, then starts being beaten back slowly

[tepid crown]

Besides, Japan need china eco to even be a player in ww2

[mint acorn]

idealy what should be my next move

[sage plover]

idk this is just my experience lol

[umbral agate]

i will have to take vladivostok for them to cap bro

i did no colabs

[hoary mortar]

yeah

thats the only thing I hate about invading USSR. U take all of their major cities and then spend 3 more months taking tiny towns

[copper cobalt]

nuking japan occupied china to get rid of any warcrime evidence

[lusty river]

OMG MANCHUKUO MINOR REMAKE RAHHHHHHH

3rd best news exept the (hopefully someday) mengukuo focus and hopefully someday please paradox massive tannu tuva focus

[umbral agate]

holy snake

[heavy vigil]

100 usd for mongol and tannu tuva dlc

[pearl flume]

Let's go Magino

[lusty river]

they need to make a tannu tuva, mongolia and mangukuo focus and tibet

rise of the throat singers

(leaked name for the dlc 😝 )

[reef jetty]

Chat be honest is my plan gonna fail or succeed

[lusty river]

yes

fail

afghanistan is impossible to invade

only lietchtenstein navy can help you invade

[sly pier]

guys

anyone know physics?

[unique crag]

🥹

[tepid crown]

Yes

[unique crag]

paratroopers?

[lusty river]

paratroopers as iran sounds hard to achive since they fight civil war and stuff if you go persian empire

[unique crag]

true

[lusty river]

i love iran so much but the playthrough is so awkward

[umbral agate]

how many losses is too many as germany?

[unique crag]

more than the soviets

[tepid crown]

A lot

[heavy vigil]

they dont have air or AA

make tactical bombers/cas

they die

[lusty river]

GoE is amazing but it feels rushed af and weird

[heavy vigil]

5 mil is usually not great

[lusty river]

so its not amazing

[umbral agate]

these are mine rn

late 1944

[zinc light]

Nah you're cooked

[zinc light]

You dont have a civil war on the persian empire path tho

[lusty river]

based zoroastrianism?

[dark spindle]

How do I make the frontlines match up? This is not chaning even as I own more land

[zinc light]

But still hard to get nonetheless, since you need Air superiority, Transport Planes and para research

[azure palm]

This is crazy. I havent built a single Civ the entire game. Also I have 245 factories on consumer goods. Only 11%

[lusty river]

shift and drag the edge of the frontline to adjust it

i think

[zinc light]

Eh, that's Neither exclusive to persia path; Nor mandatory

[lusty river]

no but its based

🤑

[zinc light]

Haha funny meme path

[dark spindle]

I tthinkts its russian territory?

[lusty river]

what

[zinc light]

But then, that civil war is one of the easiest

[lusty river]

idk bro 😭

[lusty river]

yea

[narrow oar]

first time finishing a game without a single cheat. Communist bulgaria is extremely fun to do

[sonic sand]

good job

but

like

you didn't get anything

[pallid gyro]

I just don't get why Germany still can't core riga

[narrow oar]

grlorys the point.... Being communist bulgaria while playing historical basically gets u surrounded most of the game, so I played it safe and then just helped the soviets

[sonic sand]

i wonder why a foreign power can't just come in and have a nation absolutely love you

gee

i wonder

[wet plover]

Does allying with the USSR as Germany make like all of Europe join the allys right away or smth? I didn’t realize what happened and when I invaded Czechoslovakia I was at war with the UK, USA, France, Denmark, Norway etc.

[sonic sand]

the only reason germany is able to core austria and czech lands is because they hold a large german population

[sonic sand]

yes

because

if you are in a faction

anyone you attack

will likely go into a faction

even if its like

one member

[zinc light]

Nah it also has a world tension threshold

[sonic sand]

I mean that too

[zinc light]

Like 60%? Not sure

[sonic sand]

world tension skyrockets regardless

I wish there were decisions to have you lower your world tension

but yeah

[wet plover]

Damn that’s annoying.

I was gonna do a complete focus on the western front but that save is fried if I’m at war with EVERYONE

[agile perch]

Yo how u beat france

💔

[sonic sand]

go around the maginot

in such force

that their defenses around the Maginot are void

[mint acorn]

rush them

[sonic sand]

contrary to popular belief the French were expecting the Germans to go around the Maginot line

their war plan included having french troops rush into belgium

to stop the inital push

and then grind the german lines down

[sage plover]

ello lads

what did i miss?

[sonic sand]

its why the DMZ was the Rhineland

and not where the Maginot line was

unfortunately

however

[zinc light]

But when I Play on historical the french never come to defend belgium 💔

[slim nexus]

Discord mod moment

[sonic sand]

so basically what happened IRL is that Belgium withdrew from their alliance with france in 1938

[slim nexus]

They just didn't think they would have passed the forest

[sonic sand]

no they thought of it

[sage plover]

i think its just cuz they need an easier way to capitulate france?

[sonic sand]

what they didn't expect was tanks coming through

[sonic sand]

no theres a historical reason for this too

[sage plover]

cuz the UK also is designed not to defend france in the early stages

[sage plover]

oh ik about the belgium thing

[sonic sand]

the historical reason was that they withdrew from their alliance with France

forcing the french to make new warplans

and

weakening the french position

severely

[sage plover]

ye, but after the nazi's invaded france still rushed in

[sonic sand]

the problem was they would've already had troops stationed there