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#hoi4-general
jade hull
not anymore
warped flint
Whats a fun warlord state
indigo violet
Free State of Magadan, WerBell III path
warped flint
Free State of Magadan, WerBell III path
I have tried a magadan path before
I can't even beat amur
they have such a large manpower pool compared to me
jade hull
i love being late to a war and still being able to get everything
indigo violet
I have tried a magadan path before
Hmm, west russian revolutionary front, with the one and only zhukov
warped flint
Hmm, west russian revolutionary front, with the one and only zhukov
Yeah that sounds fun
I remembered I reunflyed russia and him 1 time but I forgot to turn off ironman and something went wrong and I couldn' reunfly russi
rose siren
warped flint
Honestly they should give moskowien a small focus tree
grizzled yarrow
Noooo russia nooooo
warped flint
Noooo russia nooooo
tepid elbow
.
indigo violet
Honestly they should give moskowien a small focus tree
They really should ngl
grizzled yarrow
Isnt there like a soviet victory map where like the soviets killed the us
warped flint
They really should ngl
Yeah why does like ostland get something
And ukraine????
bruh
warped flint
Hmm, west russian revolutionary front, with the one and only zhukov
Yk i am sorta tempted to try Tukhachevsky
indigo violet
Yeah why does like ostland get something
I mean, ostland is literally 5 different cultures thrown together in one "country"
So it does kind of make sense for them to have content
And moskowien did get some skeleton content iirc
tropic lance
this only happens wiith bs
gusty oracle
I did my math homework today
and somebody elses
tropic lance
never have i seen a block of notifications
warped flint
Who should I pick
dusky burrow
gang I swear there is only bosnia-hergovsomething
prussia owning dalmatia rip
runic briar
Strasser holy roman emperor
grim hearth
gang I swear there is only bosnia-hergovsomething
Its not bosnia and hercegovina cs theres no hercegovina
gusty oracle
Strasser holy roman emperor
why
runic briar
i had to, accidentally released belgium puppent and couldn't annex it to form hre
only way was civil war
dusky burrow
Strasser holy roman emperor
are the brits in sierra leone
runic briar
are the brits in sierra leone
indeed
runic briar
new order also appears
gusty oracle
tho i don't see the eu one
you have to do a focus but i forgot which one
runic briar
this one prob
misty fossil
new order also appears
runic briar
also funny enough the hre path dissapears when u turn fascist
tropic lance
I wish i didn't do carve up cze in my german high command run...
could've gotten so many yummy states
bright forum
How do I get The Butter Front national spirit as Germany?
warped flint
How do I get The Butter Front national spirit as Germany?
Just gotta invade Denmark I belive
and accept their surrender
warped flint
atlast got this
nice
bright forum
Just gotta invade Denmark I belive
And that should give me it automatically? Thanks.
warped flint
And that should give me it automatically? Thanks.
I believe so
dusky burrow
atlast got this
Yay!
misty fossil
bye
misty fossil
atlast got this
congrats
runic briar
misty fossil
you talk like im going to die
warped flint
you talk like im going to die
It was nice knowing you
I am sorry I have to do what I am about to do.
digital aurora
I managed to turn around the german-Russian empire war, i was at 0 Man power in the middle of the war, but now i have 1 million is reserve, (i annexed some of my volk kommisariats)
tropic lance
I managed to turn around the german-Russian empire war, i was at 0 Man power in ...
I think you'd spend more manpower on occupation than getting them...
bright forum
Apparently every time I play Germany it's an alt-historical scenario where they lose even harder.
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!
I try making my divisions with tonnes of support companies but they just can't push.
dusky burrow
Apparently every time I play Germany it's an alt-historical scenario where they ...
Okay so there's two things that you should know
In general you should capitulate the Netherlands and Luxembourg first before entering Belgium
Secondly for your Norway invasion don't send 7 units into one tile
It's likely that after the first 3 divisions are defeated they will all retreat, so you should distribute them across neighboring tiles
bright forum
Secondly for your Norway invasion don't send 7 units into one tile
Oh my Norway invasion wasn't being done yet, I was waiting for marines.
celest dirge
can you guys recommend some realism mod other than blackice?
bright forum
In general you should capitulate the Netherlands and Luxembourg first before ent...
I struggled so hard this game that the Netherlands joined the war by joining before I declared war on them.
I really need to stop rage-deleting my saves and sharing my divisions with you guys.
dusky burrow
Yeah it's more productive to post them onto https://disastersavior.com
bright forum
Yeah it's more productive to post them onto https://disastersavior.com
I'll keep it in mind. But at minimum, I should probably be sharing my division templates with you guys.
elder terrace
Sup guys
bright forum
In fact give me a second to recreate my templates.
Is there a cheat to make facilities do their things instantly?
elder terrace
İ guess yeah
bright forum
İ guess yeah
Surely the next thing would be to tell me what the cheat code is, yeah?
This was my infantry template.
This is what I was doing with my tanks.
elder terrace
This was my infantry template.
Dang
dusky burrow
Your infantry template costs about as much as your tank template, and that says something
And your tank template has a lot of issues
dry abyss
Yeah it's more productive to post them onto https://disastersavior.com
i never know you could download disaster saves from here??
elder terrace
Just use medium tanks
dry abyss
im gonna have fun tonight
dusky burrow
Yeah you can
bright forum
Your infantry template costs about as much as your tank template, and that says ...
I take it, bad?
This is usually what I do with my tanks.
These were the two divisions I was making all game.
dusky burrow
Okay so some things you can do to fix this
Because okay that tank is super expensive and has no right to be that expensive
riveted is 60% cheaper, and armor is generally easier to get in armor clicks than armor types
You can also have a hmg turret and I assume you can put automatic cannon 2 as well
bright forum
You can also have a hmg turret and I assume you can put automatic cannon 2 as we...
I might not have been able to yet.
dusky burrow
Have you been doing your AA research
dusky burrow
Speaking of AA, how is your air force?
bright forum
But I figured German schnitzel industry would cover it.
I kinda made planes, but priotised land weapons first.
dusky burrow
Yeah that is right
How many factories do you have btw and which economic path did you take
bright forum
IDK I deleted the save, but I'd start the game by making a bunch of civilian factories, then a few refineries, then churning out military factories.
I did historical 4-Year-Plan path.
dusky burrow
4-year plan germany should almost exclusively build mils and get civs by annexations
civ gameplay is a prioritize economic growth strategy
bright forum
So basically, don't bother with civilians?
dusky burrow
Yeah no
bright forum
I think I get about 50 civilian factories or something.
But basically, make military, not civilian.
Now very importantly.
bright forum
I try to fully upgrade my intelligence agency and use it to spam stealing English industrial blueprints.
heavy vigil
Thats impressive how quick you can make a half decent ish thing total garbage
Fascinating
bright forum
Thats impressive how quick you can make a half decent ish thing total garbage
I make from the bottom up, so it was made garbage and then a few sprinkles on top.
I like petrol-electric even though it's probably bad.
heavy vigil
I like petrol-electric even though it's probably bad.
Its good for recon tanks
Second one is still very expensive for a mainland tank
But its usable ish
bright forum
What should my standard tank look like?
dusky burrow
Anyways I have to go to sleep but I can recommend something like this (although depending on your needs can use more armor)
bright forum
Anyways I have to go to sleep but I can recommend something like this (although ...
Thank you very much. Super quick question.
What's the 2nd from the right upgrade?
heavy vigil
Armor skirts
bright forum
Thank you very much.
Anyway, could someone give me a standard oonga boonga template I can just make once?
Lmao the spam bot.
heavy vigil
Anyway, could someone give me a standard oonga boonga template I can just make o...
For what?
heavy vigil
IDK, something that can make me win as Germany.
Ah
Any sort of tank or what i would consider "fun" build just relies on stacking modifiers
bright forum
Any sort of tank or what i would consider "fun" build just relies on stacking mo...
Could you show me what it looks like as a template?
heavy vigil
Or you could do mass mob battleplan with air
heavy vigil
Could you show me what it looks like as a template?
This but heavy TDs and amphtracs
Actually probably different recon and fourth slot but whatever
bright forum
This but heavy TDs and amphtracs
What the hell are amphtracs?
heavy vigil
Thats a pretty standard tank
grizzled yarrow
This but heavy TDs and amphtracs
Is this viable for ussr 
grizzled yarrow
Can u send the design as well
grizzled yarrow
Cheers
grizzled yarrow
you can make it faster btw
Engine upgrade
heavy vigil
Engine upgrade
long spear
Heres a tank design for tanking
what is ts bro
heavy vigil
Made this for someone who wanted reliability
heavy vigil
what is ts bro
A tank?
long spear
idk i felt like interactig int the server
heavy vigil
:3
grizzled yarrow
quiet yacht
Chemical warfare in hoi4 when
misty fossil
me nuking billions of civilians:
all civilians get a magical shield around them
and magical sustenance to survive nuclear war
clear dagger
me with the warcrime mod
misty fossil
evidenced by the fact that 0 civilians die during a nuclear bombardment
misty fossil
cya
heavy vigil
evidenced by the fact that 0 civilians die during a nuclear bombardment
Why would they?
misty fossil
wdym
heavy vigil
Why would they?
quick stratus
Heres a tank design for tanking
speaking of tank designs i dont think ive ever produced mediums that costs more than 13 production points(or whatever you call them)
spice ice
90275523713482756
lyric shell
...
muted pecan
lyric shell
How many divisions you got encircled
82
rose prawn
Including your tanks?
lyric shell
I’m trying
rose prawn
Do you have air superiority
lyric shell
No😓
rose prawn
How
lyric shell
i have seven heavy tank divisions and five light tank divisions
rose prawn
Do you produce air planes
rose prawn
Use them
lyric shell
How could that possibly happen
D-day 🙏🏻
misty fossil
yup its game over
lyric shell
misty fossil
82 divisions against the soviets is nowhere near enough
midnight shore
gg
midnight shore
dont give up
misty fossil
why
midnight shore
misty fossil
you can obviously save it but is it worth it? no
midnight shore
fair point
midnight shore
just spam screens
midnight shore
to tank for big ships
lyric shell
idk
midnight shore
frfrfr
lyric shell
i’m considering deleting my save
misty fossil
theres just not a lot of comprehensive navy guides out there
lyric shell
yeah, no real chance
misty fossil
before you do submit it to bittersteel's hoi4 disaster save
website
@lyric shell ^
quiet yacht
you do realise its a war crime right
In ww1 redux there is
misty fossil
im aware
quiet yacht
But in the historical period that the mod cover wasn't illegal
misty fossil
i wonder to what extent pdx enforces their policies
quiet yacht
In ww1 redux that tactic is a bit too OP
indigo violet
Chemical warfare is not that great irl tbh
If the winds change directions you’re the one suddenly under threat of gas
rose prawn
i wonder to what extent pdx enforces their policies
It wasn't a war crime
During ww1
After the genava convention was created
It was classified as a war crime
thorny pond
anyone know a good cold war mod?
rose prawn
little compass
lyric shell
exposed 🙏🏻✨
rose prawn
Why do this
lyric shell
Why do this
for shits and giggles, i suppose...
lyric shell
🥀😓
little compass
Y'all genuinely can't get original content on this game?
languid patrol
Oh Adolph...
how is hitler holding ?
rare crow
Should I get Himmler or todt for my inner circle for my Germany playthrough?
sick vector
heavy vigil
is this a bug
its a nation rule
heavy vigil
yeah
gleaming iron
was it gandhi who did it
gaunt flint
yo. I recently got good enough at the game that the base AI is depressing and downloaded sheep's mod, what would you say are the major changes I should make?
for example is cas more important should I put more effort into x y z
eternal palm
yo. I recently got good enough at the game that the base AI is depressing and do...
Well, if you are "good enough" you probably don't have to make any
If you alread have optimal templates, research order and focus order down for a country that's good enough
misty fossil
for example is cas more important should I put more effort into x y z
yeah its about sheeps mod
gaunt flint
thanks
misty fossil
cheers
gaunt flint
play it and tell me how hard it is
sure
rigid bear
im so goated
eternal palm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2tDbNYstc&t=970s&pp=ygUQc2hlZXAncyBtb2QgaG9pNA...
This guy is clickbaiting 🥱
glacial crag
eternal palm
He's farming views cuz people are bad at the game
eternal palm
its unbeatable for most people
Skill issue?
misty fossil
plus his guide is useful
well ill take it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
its easy to point fingers and accuse someone of clickbaiting until you start being a youtuber and realise how hard it is to get views
people do judge the book by its cover and a video with a good thumbnail will generally perform better than one without
an example is perun vs hypohystericalhistory
eternal palm
its easy to point fingers and accuse someone of clickbaiting until you start bei...
I doubt that's the problem here
That angle is so dumb
misty fossil
what is it then
eternal palm
"Those poor youtubers"
eternal palm
what is it then
That I don't like the guy for making sheep's mod out to be something that it isn't
misty fossil
is sheep's mod as easy as you say it is
eternal palm
It's not hard It's not unbeatable, it is playable
misty fossil
how many hours do you have
eternal palm
how many hours do you have
Hours mean very little but if you care that much I passed 6k recently
And tbf I suck at this game
eternal palm
There's people with less than 2k that can and will trash me
warm forum
Le Big Evil
eternal palm
Kek
warm forum
<@1085662344169926739>
the chat was up and i've read it, so it went up and down at the same time 😭
misty fossil
skill issue
sudden thistle
its unbeatable for most people
Get good
misty fossil
no
safe wing
I will struggle with Sheep’s mod but I will be able to win
And honestly I prefer that compared to going through the AI like a knife through butter
slim nexus
Any suggestion for surviving against Japan as china
devout trench
Any suggestion for surviving against Japan as china
Change your starting template
And live off of lend lease
slim nexus
Usually I can ask lens lease because there is no enough global chaos
devout trench
Usually I can ask lens lease because there is no enough global chaos
Are you playing hist
If so just hold a river and garrison your ports in the south
That is how I held off
devout trench
Also grand battle plan
devout trench
I like the entrenchment
devout trench
Mass assault
heavy vigil
Wayy better
Reinforce rate + org
Reduced combat width
Absolutely goated at defending
devout trench
My fault for assuming grand battle plan fr
It has been the only doctrine I have touched in like the past few months
heavy vigil
Its a good doctrine
Very bad at defending tho
No reinforce rate very little org
No defensive stats (planning only applies when attacking)
serene token
misty fossil
It has been the only doctrine I have touched in like the past few months
good
misty fossil
Its a good doctrine
casey, question
if i go down full mass assault and managed to get enough industry for tanks after that should i switch to GBP
assuming i still want to play
heavy vigil
if i go down full mass assault and managed to get enough industry for tanks afte...
"industry for tanks"
misty fossil
?
heavy vigil
More industry on air you mean?
misty fossil
hm alright
heavy vigil
I guess you could be air capped
misty fossil
i shall pivot to naval production then
heavy vigil
After getting like 30K planes
misty fossil
lol you can never have enough cas
heavy vigil
But i feel like you can win with 30K air
Also you could just do tanks
And just live with low stats
grizzled yarrow
Absolutely goated at defending
What about offense
misty fossil
What about offense
36w mass assault right is the most busted strat in the game atm
make 2 army groups of 36w then just battleplan
you grind them down before they can recover
grizzled yarrow
36w mass assault right is the most busted strat in the game atm
What about 30w
misty fossil
what is 35x2
celest dirge
What is your thought about pax britannica?
misty fossil
70
heavy vigil
What about offense
Air
misty fossil
35w is the best for offensive because it fits into a lot of terrains
heavy vigil
If it was for plains youd do 42w iirc
Because you can exceed 33%
And attack from multiple sides
misty fossil
im just explaining it in a way i understand it
also calling people dumb isnt nice even if they're your friends
imo
heavy vigil
Im sorry im just feeling a bit mean
valid prairie
Good soft attack amount for attacking divisions?
misty fossil
and i dont have the time nor will to test it
misty fossil
Good soft attack amount for attacking divisions?
500 i would imagine
early on
later on maybe >700
misty fossil
yes
valid prairie
Can u recommend a template
safe wing
Killed 180k nazis and lost 25k Germans in the German civil war
tiny iris
A 3 year old called me a fart 7 years ago and it broke me and now I hate everyone. My life changed that day.
Anyways, hello.
Chat's dead.
agile perch
yo i just got slammed by soviet union as finland what do i do now
fallow grove
also calling people dumb isnt nice even if they're your friends
This
agile perch
you train units with it
bro this
agile perch
ok
agile perch
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-know-let-me-know-dog-meme-let-me-know-dog-dog-hold...
yea this tutorial aint helping bro
devout trench
yea this tutorial aint helping bro
did you play it
tepid crown
Click the one for troops
agile perch
ok
lyric shell
agile perch
Click the one for troops
do u mean here
quiet yacht
Chemical warfare is not that great irl tbh
If the winds change directions you’re...
Depends, if you just release it or project it on the enemy with artillery
tepid crown
do u mean here
No. The tank icon in the bar menu on the top left of the screen
agile perch
Recruit and deploy?
tepid crown
Yes
agile perch
Ok what now
tepid crown
You can edit and train troops there
heavy vigil
do u mean here
Playing finland without knowing how to play is a good way to learn but might be a bit painful
heavy vigil
You learn combat modifiers and the value of xp/getting doctrine done in time
And the value of massmob doctrine
agile perch
And the value of massmob doctrine
ah
heavy vigil
i play finland because i like them
Thats fine
Great nation to learn combat/logistics
agile perch
Yes
agile perch
I am now?
heavy vigil
I would recommend not cropping screenshots when asking for help
tepid crown
Yes. But don’t seen the button that says “No location set” click on that for each of them and click somewhere in Finland. That way they can deploy when done training
agile perch
I would recommend not cropping screenshots when asking for help
Ok
warm forum
Will the emperor still be the leader of Fascist Japan?
agile perch
woah woah woah i lost 20k man power now
warm forum
Or is he becoming a Figure head?
agile perch
where it go
heavy vigil
where it go
Into your divisions in training?
agile perch
heavy vigil
Manpower is your reserves, not your deployed/in training
agile perch
I think yes
agile perch
i am doing research
i think
do i deploy
Damnnnnn bro germany pushing soviet back
heavy vigil
Choose for yourself first :>
eternal palm
Thoughts?
eternal palm
no bessarabia?
What for?
That 1 mil and 1 dockyard isnt worth the 35 day focus time
ivory hull
That 1 mil and 1 dockyard isnt worth the 35 day focus time
more land is more land
eternal palm
Not really 🤷♂️
ivory hull
it would partly delay the german divs
ivory hull
2 days delay
eternal palm
Also the defense is easier at the original soviet border
eternal palm
2 days delay
Insane
Still not worth 35 days focus time
you're pretty strapped for focus time as the soviets
ivory hull
you're pretty strapped for focus time as the soviets
not that hard
eternal palm
If you wanna play it optimally bessarabia doesnt fit neither is it any useful
idk about u but I actually put thought into what I do
ivory hull
idk about u but I actually put thought into what I do
why are you getting so offensive all of a sudden?
eternal palm
why are you getting so offensive all of a sudden?
because your point is useless and your input subpar
Oh btw this is in sheep mod
forgot to say
ivory hull
Oh btw this is in sheep mod
yea ok that changes it ofc
slate ferry
so why take offense at all tho? its a game
eternal palm
so why take offense at all tho? its a game
Not taking any
I'm stating directly what I think
is that taking offense?
🤷♂️
slate ferry
idk about u but I actually put thought into what I do
🤔
eternal palm
Thats not even what this is about kek
I heard your opinion decided it is not helpful and left it at that
Anyhow I'll leave u to it
slate ferry
if you dont like someone's opinion then don't be rude. people can take it anyway online brotha
eternal palm
if you dont like someone's opinion then don't be rude. people can take it anyway...
Why are you arguing for him now kek
anyway, so what?
I can say what I want, who are u to tell me how to talk
slate ferry
lmao have respect all im saying
eternal palm
Dawg I am just disagreeing with him I didnt insult his family or none
I can tell someone they arent helpful without hurting their feelings can I not
ivory hull
I can tell someone they arent helpful without hurting their feelings can I not
its about mutual respect
slate ferry
bingo
eternal palm
oh ok so disagreeing with u is disrespectful now
sonic sand
oh my god both of you shut up
you two are acting like an old married couple
holyyyyy
ivory hull
oh ok so disagreeing with u is disrespectful now
the tone you used
eternal palm
the tone you used
Riiiight
rigid solar
Creep is right tho bessarabia is a waste of focus time
covert rain
slate ferry
what is even the bessarabia focus. i dont play soviets really
sonic sand
to be fair this is the hearts of iron 4 discord so who isn't autistic
ivory hull
to be fair this is the hearts of iron 4 discord so who isn't autistic
me and you brother
rigid solar
what is even the bessarabia focus. i dont play soviets really
Bad 35 day focus p sure that gives u no eco
sonic sand
what is even the bessarabia focus. i dont play soviets really
partition romania with the hungarians
🔥
slate ferry
W
sonic sand
basically pull an uno reverse on the romanians and steal their land
slate ferry
i've never seen luxemburg go communist
sonic sand
i've never seen luxemburg go communist
its also a member of the axis
and is a puppet of mongolia
i think
or maybe the other way around
idk
i think its a puppet of mongolia
slate ferry
his game is cooked
sonic sand
his game is cooked
very
ivory hull
i've never seen luxemburg go communist
peak communist luxembourg✌️
slate ferry
im hype for the faction update
covert rain
i've never seen luxemburg go communist
check its diplomacy
slate ferry
@covert rain how cooked is your game right now
brave steeple
10/10 mod bug
safe wing
right
also
is Grandbattle plan left good for the USSR/Russia
considering I'm doing a tank build
eternal palm
is Grandbattle plan left good for the USSR/Russia
In sp, sure. Goes well with a tank build. So there you go
safe wing
In sp, sure. Goes well with a tank build. So there you go
I only play SP
I figured MA would be better in MP though
eternal palm
GBP L is the only tank doctrine, unless you wanna go deep battle or smth
eternal palm
I figured MA would be better in MP though
Yea since tanks are pretty bad in this game
or rather, that mass mob is just that strong
there is no amount of stats that can beat insane reinforce rate
hoary knot
Roma et imperi
safe wing
Roma et imperi
Eastern Roman Empire?
hoary knot
Eastern Roman Empire?
yes
safe wing
have you tried the Western one yet?
tardy marten
beating both france uk navy without sub / nav bomber spam is quite hard, lost all of my old ship, but not the new one
hoary knot
have you tried the Western one yet?
my first time trying this mode so i go with the east firt
safe wing
my first time trying this mode so i go with the east firt
how is you're industry?
ivory hull
my first time trying this mode so i go with the east firt
you should try the US, they are crazily buffed
hoary knot
how is you're industry?
they have a fast construcion the east
so im consturcting civil industry
first
to stabilize economy
safe wing
they have a fast construcion the east
figured as much considering they still have Egypt and Syria which were the richest provinces of the ERE
hoary knot
you should try the US, they are crazily buffed
wich one
hoary knot
figured as much considering they still have Egypt and Syria which were the riche...
ah yes
ivory hull
youll have a crazy amount of factories
hoary knot
youll have a crazy amount of factories
thanks for this advise
hoary knot
the loss of Egypt and Syira in 634- 641 was a big blow to the ERE
my heart cry only for 1454
safe wing
one of the big reasons they lost Egypt, Syria and Palestine was because the most of the people there were Coptic Christians at the time
who were presecuted by the Orthodox church
hoary knot
one of the big reasons they lost Egypt, Syria and Palestine was because the most...
a question you are american?
hoary knot
yes
well done, you are a man of history, bravo
plus being american tha knows history
wow
safe wing
Damascus fell because a Greek turncoat told the Rashidun's where the undefended wall section was at
he was angry that his city was being besieged during his wedding
hoary knot
Damascus fell because a Greek turncoat told the Rashidun's where the undefended ...
you like the old history
safe wing
I also note alot of similarties between Khalid and Hannibals tactics
which makes me wonder if Khalid read or knew about Hannibal
hoary knot
I also note alot of similarties between Khalid and Hannibals tactics
dont talk about hanibal that has done the trip of europe from spain into the mountain of north italy with elefants to go to rome ahhahah
safe wing
dont talk about hanibal that has done the trip of europe from spain into the mou...
both crossed inhospitable terrain both could encircle a larger army with a smaller one
hoary knot
both crossed inhospitable terrain both could encircle a larger army with a small...
the most true empire after the fall was the only east roman empire, tha haven't betrayed the roman true value
hoary knot
I am the Italian one here
we campione
slim nexus
Which value are you talking about
hoary knot
Which value are you talking about
il valore romano è vero senza nessun riforma culturale, era solo l'impero bizantino
safe wing
I play the Western Roman Empire in Attila Total War alot
hoary knot
I play the Western Roman Empire in Attila Total War alot
ATTILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
safe wing
ATTILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Honorius at the end of my last campaign
hoary knot
I play the Western Roman Empire in Attila Total War alot
CESARE LEGITIMUS ROMANOS DUX ET IMPERATOR EST
jaunty sinew
Roma et imperi
why does the teutonic empire have a colony in half of algeria
hoary knot
Honorius at the end of my last campaign
CESARE LEGITIMUS ROMANOS DUX ET IMPERATOR EST
i know latin
safe wing
CESARE LEGITIMUS ROMANOS DUX ET IMPERATOR EST
he had two bad traits
arrogant and maimed arm
he won alot of battles
which is how he got them
still 1,000,000,000 better than the real Honorius though
hoary knot
which is how he got them
i dont know how he never got scotland
safe wing
i dont know how he never got scotland
I took it over with him
hoary knot
still 1,000,000,000 better than the real Honorius though
his best trumvirate era
hoary knot
and I stayed Latin Christian
I stayed with orthodox chrisian
sonic sand
his best trumvirate era
the triumvirate from the hit japanese, squid based shooter game splatoon 3's PvE mode?
safe wing
I stayed with orthodox chrisian
I meant ingame
safe wing
because the WRE is Latin (western Nicene) while the East is Greek (Eastern Nicene)
hoary mortar
Fellas
hoary mortar
Should I try redoing my German navy game?
Or should I focus on producing a metric shitton of bombers
safe wing
Should I try redoing my German navy game?
Or should I focus on producing a metri...
navy
also Honorius killed Attila in my game
like his army one shotted Attilas army
hoary knot
lets not talk about this subject
No, only i was curios to know
hoary knot
because the WRE is Latin (western Nicene) while the East is Greek (Eastern Nicen...
my heart cry for 395 and 1454
stiff hatch
90275538801125401 just join to looking for war 2
hoary mortar
navy
Ye this run I completely failed.
I began researching radar way too late and I had less than 50dockyards when ww2 started
then in 1 battle my entire sub fleet died, 2nd battle my entire surface fleet died too
safe wing
Ye this run I completely failed.
I began researching radar way too late and I ha...
need more carriers
hoary mortar
need more carriers
I built none
safe wing
this is what carriers can do as Italy
safe wing
I built none
did you do you're naval doctrine then?
hoary knot
VIVA ROMA ET IMPERI, CUMM GADIUM MAGNIUM VIVA
tardy marten
My Churchill won't surrender even if I sunk entire Royal fleet and defeat French fleet at same time
safe wing
My Churchill won't surrender even if I sunk entire Royal fleet and defeat French...
Because he will never surrender
hoary mortar
did you do you're naval doctrine then?
not all of it sadly. I got distracted doing economic focuses
tardy marten
They don't have navy anymore so it's sweep victory
hoary mortar
I'm just gonna redo my naval run
- research radar very early
- finish entire naval doctrine
- MORE DOCKYARDS
tardy marten
And Japan declare war on me because German control Dutch East
safe wing
I'm just gonna redo my naval run
* research radar very early
* finish entire nav...
I meant this
tardy marten
I'm just gonna redo my naval run
* research radar very early
* finish entire nav...
Just make docks from start like me
The problem is just Africa and Ethiopia front
hoary mortar
I meant this
oh ye I got to half of it
rigid solar
there is no amount of stats that can beat insane reinforce rate
Im p sure acc it's just that they don't have army xp for it and purge rng so bad gens
tardy marten
Thankfully ai naval bombers are not too problem, so I can slap heavy guns and just few aa
Imagine a player spam 2k naval bombers just to counter me at the sea
Wow, super battleship MP Meta is just, AA
Just 3 actual heavy guns
normal galleon
beating the ass of the allies as fascist lithuania before 39
sonic sand
beating the ass of the allies as fascist lithuania before 39
cannot wait for you to get naval invaded
by
the brits
sonic sand
@safe wing you have spoken 62 thousand times
tardy marten
cannot wait for you to get naval invaded
Churchill spamming those alarm naval landing sound
sonic sand
Churchill spamming those alarm naval landing sound
yes
its almost as bad as America island hopping
tardy marten
Getting achievements is not my favorite
wicked root
Not sure what to do
mods
hoary knot
Justice for albania
rare ingot
with east india company how you declare war on non align country or democratic ?
sonic sand
Justice for albania
its legit
sonic sand
no but my balkan friends all say its legit
hoary knot
no but my balkan friends all say its legit
wich part of balkan
sonic sand
wich part of balkan
all of it besides like moldova
hoary knot
all of it besides like moldova
a mix
sonic sand
I have friends from Türkiye, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, Greece, Hungary and Romania
hoary knot
I have friends from Türkiye, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, Greece, Hungary and Roma...
wow is your albanian friend, firnd with serbian
firend
sonic sand
friend?
they don't hate eachother but they will make fun of eachother from time to time
eternal palm
Should be 50 :nowhy:
hoary knot
they don't hate eachother but they will make fun of eachother from time to time
hahah beautiful
eternal palm
<:nicebro:1054028891968253963>
Nah SHeep mod
I forgot to train converts 😭
So my tanks sucked
trim pike
trim pike
What ger option
trim pike
I'm washed 😭
Rusty skills?
eternal palm
Yea
tardy marten
Just realized Italy has too many sub, so I use em always engage at battle
It's alright if I lost all sub, I use destroyers mostly
finite nacelle
Guys do we have am offical date for the japan dlc?
eternal palm
What game was this
THe game I am playing rn? I'm playing sheep mod
tepid crown
Guys do we have am offical date for the japan dlc?
Yes
rigid solar
THe game I am playing rn? I'm playing sheep mod
O
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
sonic sand
oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas
Bro why is your screen giving off nuka cola quantum vibes
lethal lagoon
Bro why is your screen giving off nuka cola quantum vibes
JAJAJAJAJJA idkkkk
Ни шагу назад!
Order n.° 227
hoary knot
ROMA è NOSTRA
lofty iron
they don't hate eachother but they will make fun of eachother from time to time
i can confirm
errant stream
uh, guys, i was beating japan as china alone, then i joined the allies, then my war contribution dropped from 98% to 50%??
lofty iron
as a serb with albanian friends we dont hate each other we just make fun of eachother
sonic sand
uh, guys, i was beating japan as china alone, then i joined the allies, then my ...
welcome to the allies
wispy kindle
still disgruntled with DLCs i've paid for becoming free for everyone
wispy kindle
paradox bro
*la resistance integrated into the basegame and becoming free for everyone with the next next dlc
pastel yew
La resistance and BOP should be base game. Anyone who’s purchased them should get some sort of free pack out of it like new 3d models or focus icons
errant stream
your war contribution is void
should i just reload a save before i joined the allies
wispy kindle
La resistance and BOP should be base game. Anyone who’s purchased them should ge...
should get all our money back is what we should get
whole moth
pastel yew
should get all our money back is what we should get
true but it ain’t happening
crystal marsh
La resistance and BOP should be base game. Anyone who’s purchased them should ge...
Battle of Phosphorus?
pastel yew
I’d at least like some sort of free pack out of it whatever it may be
pastel yew
Battle of Phosphorus?
yes
sonic sand
@errant stream basically the problem is that the UK sends millions of guns to everyone giving them infinite war score and ruining your participation and leeching off your war score
and also
its the war score for every nation
wispy kindle
nowhere was it ever announced DLCs would become free at a later date at a random choosing of paradox. just feels like shafting the consumer at this point to keep churning out more DLCs
crystal marsh
but yeah people should get rewarded for purchasing the dlcs beforehand
crystal marsh
a custom song isnt nearly enough
crystal marsh
dont get me wrong, i support integrating dlcs but not without rewarding previous buyers
pastel yew
I at least hope they do what they did with Germany and the soviet union and make the historical branch of Japan free
hot compass
pastel yew
Idk if they announced that yet or not
hasty linden
dont get me wrong, i support integrating dlcs but not without rewarding previous...
i mean if they do that they would just loose money and not do it at all
crystal marsh
I at least hope they do what they did with Germany and the soviet union and make...
thats a given
pastel yew
thats a given
good
crystal marsh
if they dont im personally heading to paradox hq and kidnapping peter nicholson
celest dirge
how to change load order of mod?
wispy kindle
dont get me wrong, i support integrating dlcs but not without rewarding previous...
i don't support integrating them at all because then why did i even buy them. i'm not nearly as interested in supporting paradox as a company, i want extended content for Hoi4
hasty linden
how to change load order of mod?
wdym
sonic sand
dont get me wrong, i support integrating dlcs but not without rewarding previous...
the problem is that why would anyone buy something that's inferior this is really just to protect consumers and im very annoyed with anyone who says it isn't
crystal marsh
i also agree that paradox is pricing their games too high
small lynx
fun reminder that all DLCs on sale are 90 euros
crystal marsh
dlcs should be like country packs, only adding alt history trees and nothing more
small lynx
idk if i regret it
crystal marsh
historical branches and game mechanics should be in the base game
small lynx
historical branches and game mechanics should be in the base game
true
wispy kindle
the problem is that why would anyone buy something that's inferior this is reall...
arguably most of the hoi4 customer base that's somewhat invested in it has bought by far if not all of the DLCs so you're really just protecting newcomers while making the investment of the old customer void and null
sonic sand
arguably most of the hoi4 customer base that's somewhat invested in it has bough...
the investment is like buying a preorder.
ok
ripe slate
how to change load order of mod?
you cant
theres an option you can enable in the settings file, but it doesnt seem to do anything
wispy kindle
the investment is like buying a preorder.
then it would have been called a preorder
sonic sand
then it would have been called a preorder
heres an example
I can go
well in the past
i could go
and buy minecraft on an xbox
and only get bedrock edition of minecraft
not java
thats a bad buisness tactic
wispy kindle
i was just going to repeat my previous message that then it would have been called a PREORDER but this example is so dogshit, i don't even get what you're trying to say
sonic sand
because bedrock is in most cases inferior to java
sonic sand
i was just going to repeat my previous message that then it would have been call...
I dont think it was meant to be a preorder
i think they wanted that to be the base
but then later down the line
elder bane
arguably most of the hoi4 customer base that's somewhat invested in it has bough...
you've enjoyed playing that old DLC for years now, so there's your value there
sonic sand
they realized a way to make it better
wispy kindle
minecraft bedrock and java is completely different from hoi4
sonic sand
minecraft bedrock and java is completely different from hoi4
im showing you a scummy buisness tactic
vs
protecting your newer consumers from buying an inferior product for the same price
how would you feel
wispy kindle
here's a better idea. keep your new revamped DLC ideas for hoi5 and don't give DLCs for free while others have paid for them
sonic sand
here's a better idea. keep your new revamped DLC ideas for hoi5 and don't give D...
theres another good example
people still bought hoi3
and they aren't mad at all that it stopped getting updates
and became replaced by something
copper cobalt
you've enjoyed playing that old DLC for years now, so there's your value there
They've made enough money they couldn't give back anything in return
wispy kindle
you've enjoyed playing that old DLC for years now, so there's your value there
screw that, would not have bought them if they were going to be made free at some point
copper cobalt
They've made enough money they couldn't give back anything in return
Not even smth cosmetic
Leeches
sonic sand
screw that, would not have bought them if they were going to be made free at som...
i would've
thats the thing you don't understand
jaunty flint
does anyone can give me advice for poland?
sonic sand
just because something is made obsolete by something else doesn't mean its existence should be refunded to everyone who bought it
copper cobalt
just because something is made obsolete by something else doesn't mean its exist...
It shouldn't be refunded but they wouldn't give anything to the guys who paid
wispy kindle
thats the thing you don't understand
you're right, i don't understand why you'd waste money like that
sonic sand
Not even smth cosmetic
every time someone buys the new apple phone do they get a free apple case and apple duffel bag every time?
copper cobalt
every time someone buys the new apple phone do they get a free apple case and ap...
Great comparison
sonic sand
Great comparison
well i mean do they?
wispy kindle
every time someone buys the new apple phone do they get a free apple case and ap...
once again a false strawman. the iphone 1 vs the iphone 2 is like hoi 1 vs hoi 2 not hoi4 dlc1 vs dlc 2
copper cobalt
well i mean do they?
Great comparison
sonic sand
once again a false strawman. the iphone 1 vs the iphone 2 is like hoi 1 vs hoi 2...
so you're saying they should be selling an inferior product to customers for the same price as the superior product
or
jaunty flint
370 hours but most of time i was afk and i use path to annex countries like lithuana, latvia, estonia
wispy kindle
so you're saying they should be selling an inferior product to customers for the...
now you're just twisting my words. why not drop the facade and just become extremely disingenuous this instant instead of slowly becoming more disingenuous overtime
sonic sand
they should give the heaven and earth to the people who bought the dlc in the past
jaunty flint
370 hours but most of time i was afk and i use path to annex countries like lith...
because i have no dlc and i think its best path for poland
sonic sand
now you're just twisting my words. why not drop the facade and just become extre...
well then what are you saying?
placid wave
Hello
placid wave
Nothing much
wispy kindle
well then what are you saying?
i've said what i meant in a very understandable way very long ago in this conversation.
sonic sand
What about you
we are having a heated debate over if integrating a 20$ DLC into the base game when they release a new DLC which makes the old DLC useless is a good thing
or rather they should compensate the people who originally got the DLC
placid wave
we are having a heated debate over if integrating a 20$ DLC into the base game w...
Not really
sonic sand
Not really
i mean it helps newer consumers not buy an inferior product for the same price
buying one thing just to find out theres another one doing the exact same thing at the same price but just better in every way is always a punch to the gut regardless of what you're talking about
tepid crown
we are having a heated debate over if integrating a 20$ DLC into the base game w...
It’s good and most people are just coping
placid wave
buying one thing just to find out theres another one doing the exact same thing ...
If it is doing the same for the same price wouldn't it make more sense to delete or just renew the old one?
sonic sand
If it is doing the same for the same price wouldn't it make more sense to delete...
thats what they're doing
they're putting all the features of the old dlc into the main game
so that everyone can have it for free
and a bunch of people are losing their minds
placid wave
And what's the problem about it?
tepid crown
And what's the problem about it?
People are just coping
sonic sand
And what's the problem about it?
because they paid 20$ however long ago and are mad that their exclusive dlc is now free for the masses who pay 50$
tepid crown
The dlc being integrated are all like 5+ years old
brittle cypress
But you don’t understand I paid for it 6 years ago and now it’s free!!
hallow roost
Gimme my money back
tepid crown
But you don’t understand I paid for it 6 years ago and now it’s free!!
Exactly
sonic sand
Gimme my money back
for what?
placid wave
But yall had your fun with it
sonic sand
Man the Guns
why?
sonic sand
its six years old.
hallow roost
I'm poor
sonic sand
That's half my month's salary
when did you buy it
brittle cypress
Like if you just bought it a month ago that’s fair I guess
Reach out to steam about it
hallow roost
A year ago
brittle cypress
they’ll probably refund you
sonic sand
this is like buying an apple and being angry when the apple eventually rots
sonic sand
A year ago
did you have fun playing man the guns?
brittle cypress
this is like buying an apple and being angry when the apple eventually rots
I mean, when I buy a dlc I typically don’t think of it as an early access or limited time thing
sonic sand
I mean, when I buy a dlc I typically don’t think of it as an early access or lim...
i get that part
but like
we all knew this was coming eventually
hallow roost
I didn't
brittle cypress
Did we tho
sonic sand
most of the DLC's add features that are so essential its insane
you can't block naval access without man the guns
if you're getting convoy raided
womp womp
hallow roost
most of the DLC's add features that are so essential its insane
The dlc isn't the problem it's the lack of refunds
tepid crown
most of the DLC's add features that are so essential its insane
That’s the real issue. Most of the dlc features should have been base game to start with
hallow roost
At least a discount on the new one
sonic sand
That’s the real issue. Most of the dlc features should have been base game to st...
this is true
sonic sand
At least a discount on the new one
why?
cunning sorrel
most of the DLC's add features that are so essential its insane
wasnt it that you couldnt request lend lease before they integrated together for victory
genuinely ridiculous
sonic sand
wasnt it that you couldnt request lend lease before they integrated together for...
exactly
this isn't new
sonic sand
thats really a you problem not a paradox problem.
hallow roost
thats really a you problem not a paradox problem.
First world statement
sonic sand
if you're so poor you should probably be saving your money not spending it on hearts of iron 4
brittle cypress
Do you live in like Zimbabwe
no
I got the country wrong
What’s the South American one with inflation
hallow roost
if you're so poor you should probably be saving your money not spending it on he...
Heaven forbid I enjoy life 😭
bright arrow
That's half my month's salary
My god if a dlc is half your salary, where do you live???
hallow roost
I'm poor but I'm not a criminal
wicked root
uhuh
sonic sand
Heaven forbid I enjoy life 😭
if you cannot enjoy life without spending 200+ on the thing you're doing then you should get a new hobby
cunning sorrel
wow what a coincidence
hallow roost
if you cannot enjoy life without spending 200+ on the thing you're doing then yo...
I just want my money back man 🥺
sonic sand
I just want my money back man 🥺
you bought it a year ago
cunning sorrel
nazi mod
bright arrow
No refunds for 1 year old purchases lol
wicked root
yeah