#hoi4-general
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I think I've spent this entire thing demonstrating that I knew you needed to land at a port but that I think that rule is lame.
idk its at the mods discretion not me
I still can’t find a map mod to replace the one I lost but eh, I’m probably screwed anyway given the fact I still don’t own Gotterdammerung etc
Let my baby troops just land on the shore without me having to do another naval invasion.
ok
you need a port for anything with a keel depth lower than 1 metre
you could have naval invaded the ports instead of just mountains and land
do you just drive your motorboat onto the beach
For some reason I thought there was a port there 🤷♂️
They drove tanks onto the beach.
oh yeah sometimes they look like their on the tile youre invading
@wicked rootwhere u from
do motorboats have tracks
scraping the barrel
do convoys have tracks
IDK I think you should be able to do this by just drawing a front line.
omw gonna mount tank tracks to my 40000 ton battleships
Azerbijan but born in iran bcs of the soviets
Hearts of iron IV
does he bloody know
oh my god
Enlighten me, then.
ok just wanted to know
supplies brother
IDK what to do
god bless lithuania
how tf do you transport food for 50000 men on LSDs
IDK they apparently did it here.
oh my god
Just do the same thing but when I draw a front line.
😭
Like fundamentally, what is the difference?!
that glocke from total tank simulator
because the army consumes more than those landing ships can transport????????????
have you ever considered that
anyway im off to bed
Me rn.
are you ragebaiting me or am i ragebaiting you
is this still aboit hoi4
Or it alternates.
why are steam workshops links banned here tho
Logistics
idk
Logistics is a part of HOI4 lol
idk follow the rail roads or something
If my dudes can do it the first time, IDK I think they should be able to the second time.
air transport
i mean i can still go on but i had 4 and a half hours of sleep today and ive been awake for 18 hrs
"Logistics" yeah bring that on boats too.
More boats.
Bring enough boats that I can do all that shit without having to take a port.
Give a logistics debuff or something to balance it out.
But just let me make all my troops wade dammit.
Just needa make sure that you have a good flow of logistics coming in
Naturally they will use up whats on the initial landing ships
before i go ima just throw this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGc999bv1kY
Arrival on Arrakis - Hans Zimmer
Edited version of https://youtu.be/WNUJFXWuEYk
god i love bagpipes
With enough grit you can transport anything across a bit of shoreline.
Ports are totally unnecessary if you have the gumption.
My guys did it the first time, make the rest of the army do it too.
Has anyone used floating harbours in the history of ever?
I did like once lol
I just assumed they were an accidental programming error left over.
Just tell my boys to grow up and wade.
"B-But we'll get wet."
Shut up and walk.
You shouldn't need a port to do this shit.
They had floating harbours xd
Anyone got any advice?
I don't believe you.
well in world ablaze you habe to
I've done it like 5 times
do yall think the jfk renovation is a focus or a decision
This is propaganda by Paradox to give them an excuse to not just implement my troops manning up and wading.
I repeat, these guys used em
Those trucks ain't wading
still waiting for infantry designer
Just bring more damn boats.
If your truck can't get through a bit of sand, it's bad anyway 
Yeah but like, they weren't mandatory.
They helped, might have even contributed to the success of the invasion.
But you don't need 'em.
To sustain the operation they might be
I'm sure you can unload enough to last a few days at the beginning
I just wanted my troops to land on some territory they already controlled.
But to keep it up would be really hard
7000 ships at D day IRL
You know tugs only work on water
Beached ships require a lot more torque
A LOT
Really? I mean that makes sense but I really would have thought a tug boat could still yank one out.
That's why you just wait until the tide goes up
IDK 2 tug boats then.
imagine going back in time only to tell hitler that the key to invade britain is to wait for the microsecond the entire royal navy is out of the british channel to naval invade
and boom
there you have it
why are we talking about tugboats
you created wolfenstein
When I say a lot, I mean a lot
tell him about the ever given
Compare friction on water Vs friction on sand
Because I'm mad that you can't transport your troops to a shoreline without a port.
not how it works because the UK had a navy on standby just in case
thats how it works irl though
unless you have specialized landing craft
I mean, if you've researched the tech for naval invasions you have the craft.
Is what I'm saying.
did you lost the battle when you landed
Just lemme do it.
which only the USA had really
You should be able to naval invade onto land you own yeah
and that was mainly in the pacific
Nope. I won and controlled the land, but there was no port, so my troops couldn't go there.
Well, the rest of my troops.
I guess think of it this way, you can order a naval invasion onto land you already control.
So clearly if you can naval invade somewhere, then you clearly have the capability.
okay the UK too
So just let me bring my army over with the same boats.
sorry I forgot them I thought the USA lend leased them all the landing craft
Let me transport my troops without them going to a damn port, basically.
you could just paradrop onto ports
Or another naval invasion order.
look up the battle of the Scheldt
because paratroopers are broken as shit in this game
it really show cases how important ports are irl
Yeah I'm not saying ports aren't important.
and then you can have your army jump from port to port
I'm just saying, you can, within all confines of real logic, land a bunch of troops on a beach without a port.
what happens if you paradrop on a tile with enemy troops?
It's what happens every naval invasion.
like Canada had to fight to secure Antwerp basically for a couple of months
Let me do it for my army.
is there a battle
because it was the only port we could realisticlly use
did normandy have a port
I already control the land, lemme just reinforce my troops from it.
You can reinforce troops without a port.
Sure it's less efficient.
But it is possible.
Cherbourg I think
but the Germans damaged it to the point where it was inoperable for a few months
there you go
the allies built Mulberries
they should add that to the base game fr
which were artificial harbors
floating harbors!
they are in the game though
as floating harbors
They should add letting your troops walk off the damn boat.
On a fundamental level, what makes it different from just another naval invasion?
which is the reason we went to take Antwerp
If you can naval invade territory without a port, why can't you transport the rest of your army without a port? 🤔
Brest, Calais and many other major ports were German occupied until May 1945
when Germany surrendered
So basically what you're asking is
Why can't you bring troops to an established beachead where there is no ports
Yeah pretty much.
this happened at Gallipoli
and we all know how that went
Yeah but like, it's theoretically possible.
Especially if, keep in mind, I controlled the territory already.
I'm not saying "Let me transport my troops into enemy territory willy nilly."
I'm saying "Let me transport my troops onto a beachhead I control without a port."
You can do it in real life, it is technically possible, it's even possible in game by just queuing up another naval invasion. Let me just draw a front line and have them sort it out.
dude we litterally got a dev diary
?
Not playing HOI4 for awhile is easy
Havent even played any game in 4 days

I got back into hoi4 after a month or two month long break
Wow you don't say
Starting to understand a little
japan probably went from having the worst to having the best alt-history communist path
🥀
ngl
talk about a uno reverse
kinda excited for the board game
you dont need any mods to load if someone wants to try to save this
whats the situation like
Bad
Casey is playing as Uruguay
imma check it out
whats this
how insane is this 1-10
end siege
horrible out of 10
0
also holy shit this new background is FIRE
its why i named it cause we can
im gonna spam em just cause i can
what nation are you even playing as
its modded to high hell
jerusulum commune....
and i cheated to get the full israeli pop growth thingy
i originally did another run as levant union
but that without cheating only 460% pop growth
oh hell yeah
millenium dawn
r56
Novium vexillium
@ivory hull are you winning
damn how many mods are you using
it just finished loading
how do you even get into this position
uruguay ragnarok?
Yrah
Im trying a second run rn
It shouldnt be too difficult
👅 👅
this situation says otherwise
Yeah the first run went pretty bad
I forgot you can use the navy to raid them
no engineers in your inf?
damn i thought it was all like jungle or smth
Nope
Theyre units
Not very good
But theyre units
I think im gonna de prioritize army xp
Ehhh nvm
I want xp
Wait no im dumb i need men
Am I talking to myself?
ah
Is there a problem?
does brazil or argentinia have a more fun tree?
no?
My bad for assuming. I’m just annoyed the map mod I absolutely love is gone and I can’t replicate it…at least. I dunno how.
Uruguay is fun
Just have to get good
i dont think that was part of my plan
how many hours do you have again?
Like 6
6 thousand?
Just 6
horrible
I hate how the Vanilla Map looks tbh.
Ain’t got nun better
I did
use cav instead of motorized, make it 36w
I heard cav is dog shit tho
an only cav div
bro how many hours do you have on this
anyone wanna play r56? 🙏
i agree
Shalom
Hoi hoi. That is hi in Dutch.
So I found a map mod I like but now its gone from the workshop so I’m back to square one / I’m probably screwed given I lack Gotterdammerung and stuff in terms of DLC. Have everything before it though.
🇪🇪 the world awaited ARMAGEDDON it is now the year 2025 we stand on the brink of TOTAL WAR
shalom
Dih dihh. That is hi in Hindi.
anyone know whats the best mod for playing in the middle ages?
or in the 11-12th century?
Dih 💔
oh casey what on earth have you done
'Dih dihh' is not 'hi' in Hindi...
this is the most i can do no way i can invade the US
🇪🇪 Fusion powered cars portable computers
have you considered building a navy
you should touch water
how do you think i took the UK
look at the date
chamar🙏🏻
invading the us is straight up torture
macha
@safe wing which one is more legitimate?
none
Second one
also my navy is bigger than the US navy
im death stacking them in one sea
He was the head of the family claiming the throne irl at the time @ivory hull
they have their navy spread out
good luck
thanks
fym good luck im not invading them im calling this game wraps
And was in the game as far back as la resistance
I remember his old portrait too
i only played this run to get the not one step back achievement
which i did
and was torture
not one step forward now
🇷🇺
and the one about propoganda
im crying
Do the tsar one first
why isnt this vargas portrait in vanilla tho
Because thats him like the in the 1950 s
as if paradox would care
Well they did for Franco and Salazar
based
Because they had their portraits changed in la resistance
and hes gone
well
🇪🇪 years of consumption lead to shortages of every major resource
Also I forgot about Victor Emmanuel III
nationalist spain is the WORST focus tree in hoi4
idc
worse than democratic japan
Who they also changed
🇪🇪 the entire world unraveled it is now the year 2025
he barely even pops up
Because he was using a wwi portrait pre By blood alone
he always does for me because italy keeps fumbling
🇪🇪 PEACE became a distant memory
fun fact victor emmanuel III is tiny
like
140cm tiny
one might be inclined to say hes a dwarf
5’1 in my countries measurements
Or about my moms height
And no he isn’t a dwarf by official standards
i was joking
Mine is too
i know hes not that short
IK
o
im crying
Funny because I’m basically 5’11
The NBA called
Anyone got advice?
advice for what?
To do about the map
just use a map mod
mediums?
Tanks
ragebait
yea no they arent
when albania dlc
Guys, how important is navy?
truth
depends on what ur wanting to do
depends on the country
generally it isn't important
Cuz I wondered if I should buy Götterdammerung like the Kaiser stan I am or if I should buy BBA to take peoples navies.
tbh navy isnt alll that important, unless ur fighting japan, us, or UK, but like honestly just build naval bombers and then invadr when u crippled their navy
Yk what, I shall buy Graveyard of Empires.
DONT DO IT
get something actually worth while 😭
Trial of Allegiance. Got it.
😭 what is that
that one is SLIGHTLY better
I mean if they want country packs they want country packs
BBA, NSB, and Gotterdamerung are the best
A tank
BBA being the least kinda, but plane designer is good to have
at least give it small cannon 2
i got into a second disaster save
mega bomber go brrr
Finland
Liv or francis do you have any ideas on what to do here
2 docks on SHBBs
-25 steel

I see urg i know I don't want to touch that lmao
Navy finland is viable in mp if no finland front
2030
Racist
I hate south america front
if i press this
It crashed my game
will my pc explode
Nvm it might be fine
IDK why
Oh yeah nvm im chilling
rn its looking fine
Okay it loaded for me
I'm playing Imperial Germany and it depends who I'm planning on fighting first
I can’t find one I like
what are you searching for?
Why do you have two gun production lines
if I'm fighting the UK and France I will build a navy, if I'm fighting the USSR first then tanks
For the resource penalty?
it is
Oh that's a thing you can exploit?
you can do northern strike or southern strike
as either the Kodha or historical @fast slate
ik bro
like you can now attack China as the Kodha and the USSR as historical
i wanna do democratic japan or imperial japan
Rare paradox lock in?
I play japan democratic
u play usa
we make the world go fascist
we will win
through will alone
this was the number 1 thing I wanted Paradox to change about Japan
and it was granted
Why do u get the new tree
bc i’m buying the DLC
She likes the current one
I already have it
I already bought Christa the DLC BTW
(Thx big al)
NP
oh true
no way
Connections 🤑
big al, save me big al
(jk, i can afford a $20 dlc)
I know a mod that changes the US tree but it’s annoying ngl
But I need to go back to class
Shyy don’t burn ur table again
anyways massmob Imperial Germany time
send me it later
see ya
90 minutes till work for me
me 2
my hours are 12:00- 4:30 5 days a week
I think i lost
Al this challenge is rather hard
Im even giving myself a whole year of build up
Hmm
Maybe i should troll less
mine are 9am-6pm 4-5 times a week
Good question
today i’m only 11-6
like a full revamp?
Maybe?
peak thank u
@sudden thistle r u hoi4 pro
What’s “hoi4”
Is that the new fortnite update
We play ck3 here
astizels map + texture overhaul collection
And no I’m not doing ur Uruguay save
seens good
Seens good
No im asking fot help
For*
Do you have any tips and tricks
Fortnite and hoi4 collab
Im trying
Do another run but light tanks only
TBCH this is how I imagined my USA rework idea
so I approve
Oh new HD2 major order
what is it
William Afton needs help dealing with the automation or something/j
well I got the Automation part right
ok why did germany annex france and disagree to the peace
anyone know a way to contact the MD devs
i found a gamebreaking bug which is a infinite PP dupe
MD server
send link
check mod page
we don't either
god my pc will crash if i open more apps then hoi4 md and discord
if you don't have time to look for it, you don't have time to report the issue ngl
steam is already open bruh
how is steam open
if hoi is booted up steam is booted up as well
i closed it
they'll remember this one
you can't close steam without closing hoi lmao
you can close the tab but not steam itself
well i closed the tab
steam has to run so you can play
it still running, just open it back up
It's Just Birmingham, literally nothing lost with that Nuke
they dont have discord link
Well acshually 🤓 you can also run the game with the PDX Launcher
oh yeah i used the pdx launcher
im boutta nuke every single one of their cities because of you
may the npc gods have mercy upon you
You better continue with Reading, Leicester and Birmingham (yes, again)
All of those are of zero historical or societal value
Ah, belgium in Congo kinda deal
Because no political power
No not because of that
Stability
al im figuring it out
Becuse of the neighbors and everyone hates you
Makes sense
A nation that rejects the ideas of borders would alarm everyone near it
Look stability is not that much when you choose this nation
Yes
Why
millenium dawn in islamist path for chechnya
Any hoi4 mod trying Not to give the smallest Nation The absolute biggest schizo paths:
Hey guys do you think hoi4 shows us axis were good side or its just me?
Kaiserredux
I agree 👍
Yeah that's just you
Oh okay
It’s because hoi4 doesn’t show the horrid crimes commited by the countries you play as
Yes i know but its too fun play axis
Hoi4 kinda just shows everyone in a neutral way
Yeah kinda
That’s because axis at the time had insanely easy opportunities for expansion and development
Most of the world kinda sucked back then
Also that playstyle is simply much more fun than playing as any of the dominions besides maybe raj
invasion funner than defense
That's ignoring the fact that any nazi depictions are banned from the german version
Yah
Yeah that is why we start with Germany
yes that is true, but hoi4 doesnt really show any of the genocides or attrocities that germany did
or japan
Mhm
The belgians only Held Out 18 days historically
So all my attempts were actually better
Hoi4 is a game for more of a military perspective and it would be pretty incensestive if they had the atrocities of the axis in the game and then at the same time had a path where the Austrian “individual” is in like Argentina
Also axis is more fun as you choose when to start the war and who to invade
France in the 1939 scenario was my fav country to learn with
Nah that's just cheesy and Not fun
is there somewhere a pic of the new dlc background?
Wdym background
To actually Fend Off the japanese, you just... Never John the united front
i learned the entire game playing them so i have gotten used to it
from the new dlc, it's seen for a few seconds in the new shwocase
Dunno
Ah, that's fair then
Theme: Japanese Garden
This guy: builds Hatsune Miku
Proceeds to win
Yes
On a completely unrelated note: the best workout music is russian hardbass
yes
gang u cant be running 14/4 with civilian economy
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
uu have to minmax everything
i tag switched to someone i was bombing bro
Nice, how do u have this much pp?
how it feels to never touch small countries
i almost worded that in a way that would have made me come across as suspicious
hes probably done everything already
Nah but how do u get 2k pp within 7 years seems a but much
can we agree we should call small countries something other than "minors"
yurugua is fun
Like there's always stuff to do
Me thinks it's on civ diff
yuriguay
idk silent workhorse
Yurigay? Yes
Russia doesn't have one
YESSIR
it is normally
yaoigay
not under the restriction i put myself under
10%
ok well there u have it
Krustshev is another 5%
Oof difficult
No im saying its on civ diff
Not cheated
i forget theres a difficulty selector
breaks own knee
complains about it
why are you like this
let yourself have fun broski
embrace the uh
meta
idk
i dont break my own knee its simply going to war with every country on jan 1st 1937
If you address "the issue", then you have to address the fact that you are allowing the players play as germany or any morally bad country (or at least grey) in game... which is at least half of them and practically all of the significant ones
i open hoi4 just to play navy
tralalero tralala
nah i meant to say you're handicapping yourself and i dont think that makes the game fun
I open Discord Just to envy people like you
it makes it difficult
navy is literally far easier than algebra 1
its on the line of me being able to do it
a good player prob could do it easier than me
how hard is algebra 1
I hate any form of maths
if you cant do it no way i can do it
you talk as if i dont despise maths
r a g n a r o k 1 9 3 7 in 2025??
wow
weirdo
as uruguay without buffs
not the germany thing
it is easy, it just takes more than 5 seconds to understand thus people don't bother
no
its so easy i have to install a navy mod to make it more entertaining
do it as rapa nui
Nah all there is to understand that you cant have fun with it since its such a godawful dogpiling feature
do it as the weird island in the southern tip next to antartica
The Winner of any navy Battle is the one with better Tech and fleet
Literally nothing Else matters
bruh, you only have to build destroyers and boats that kill other boats
uruguay has no steel?
you have that anyway
everyone is in a faction
the problem is the AI can't navy because then people cry
my first even time invading poland
like they cried when sealion was improved
People cry about literally any change
yeah. like the new approach to focus trees. Paradox has said they want to limit their schizo outlook
No more Mapuche Chile Ver. 23?
and you find people wanting to get a mongolian empire formable path
am i wrong/
all plains too
close up
thats tuff
and im one of them, quite literally
ur tuff
oh that is so fun
casey ur so tuff for taking the whoel world on alone
no honestly i dont know what to feel bout the addition of coal into the game
im not
thank you for protecting us casey
its hoi4
hi not im dad
coal tank
we should wait until we get a dev diary or see the map of resources
Oh No, another mechanic I have to think about for more than 5 seconds
casey is the president of the weirdo special empire, sponsored by paradox interactive
please lead us to victory my king
"all we want for christmas is coal" ahh update 💔
if it is balanced so you can get some while playing bhutan, for example, cool. else...
💔
if will make playing lithuania more annoying
im definitely mortified of black ice
black ice wc as uruguay
I never tried that mod tho
So, you're more qualified than me
Grass refers to various families of plants. The three major families of grasslike plants are true grasses (Poaceae), sedges (Cyperaceae), and rushes (Juncaceae). Lawns and pasturelands are typically composed of true grasses, five of which cover 46% of the world's arable land: rice, wheat, maize, barley, and sugar cane.
"Grass" as a name has been...
read the tooltip
no i have never tried that
and for good reason
Since I dont feel like putting in the effort and time to properly Git gud
Ah
Ok
I can do that
Except not sheeps
But i can try in BICE
Again ive said it before sheeps mod is prob easier for uruguay anyway
Than vanilla
Vanilla ai is more aggressive against small entrenched positions allowing them to eventually break through given enough advantage
Sheeps ai is coded upon finding weak spots in large fronts and gaining an industrial advantage
I dint rlly use any
It kinda just
Stockpiled while i was at war
are there any other achievements I can get as byzantium?
Nah its like
On the regular one
Idk how i got that much myself
Bad romance
As Byzantium control all the Romes, Rome, Romania, Russia
tyty
Your gonna need a lot of luck and sanity
I figured lol
well it happens
BICE didnt work
the new
Its over
I'm already at war with romania, so maybe join germany, declare on albania to get a free war with italy, and just take moscow after we beat the soviets?
who you playin as
Communist Japan is finally viable
China Kmt and CCP and the Philippines called
byzantium
lol literally watching the vid rn
no China is peak fiction
i have a lot of fun
They aren’t a major that’s the joke
And they are going to be updated
its amazing
I have a prediction its gonna be alot harder as the kmt
I cannot wait for an Albanian tree
If it is then itll die very very fast against a player japan
Play Egypt in road to 56
red and black i dress eagle on my chest!!!
Because you can merge with Albania
whats better, mwd left or right?
Mwd?
mobile warfare doctrine
Use grand battle-plan left for tanks instead
nah
I prefer superior firepower because it is the lore accurate best doctrine
so if japan gets that thing, it's basically over for everyone
Grand battle-plan left is better for tanks right? As Tobias doesn’t think it is
Yes
He is using mobile warfare for tanks
I’m trying to talk him out of it
I use it for inf builds in sp sometimes
I dont see the issue
lungs of aluminum 5's balancing goes hard
Its a doctrine
Fair
Thats if Japan can do it
If he wants to use mw he can use mw
True true
unite china, get a small portion of british colonies and boom
now not only does the uk have to worry about germany in europe, but also japan that could be a MASSIVE threat
never said i dont think it is better, just saying i'll use mw instead
that’s what happened irl though
yeah not really, they didn't have their "miracle" up until the end of the war
I meant the UK part
right
USA had war plan orange as early as the 1920s
crazy when you think about it
Most countries have war plans
Probably
wtf
what did switzerland do
i can't wait for Canada to have defense scheme No.1 added
@little python
Nothing USA had war plans against Germany, Japan, Italy, USSR, China, Japan, UK and France and its continental neighbors primarily
if Switzerland were to ever fall to a position to not be allied with the US or actively fighting against the US they would need a plan
Because its always good to have a plan like Batman
every country has a warplan against every other country
right
I wouldn't even put it past NATO members to have secret plans against other NATO members
Incase they go rouge
I am nearly 100% sure Hungary has a warplan against Romania
specifically for Transylvania
Germany can core all of Europe as this point though
every european nation can core all of europe
there's more ressources in asia and manpower tho
through a decision and a bit of political power
Manpower only
and ressources
up to the Urals
China has less resources tbh
asia isn't all about china bruh
Well china is the largest country entirely in Asia
you forgot the warloads state underneath it that has alot of aluminum and iron
Only Guangxi
wtf is that supposed to mean
area of asia by percent
it's not about size
without Russia which is commonly considered European
i'm talking about ressources
Is bro using chat gpt for his geopolitical analysis
Below is a list of countries in Asia by area. Russia is the largest country in Asia and the world, even after excluding its European portion. The Maldives is the smallest country in Asia.
Europe has the most resources in everything except Rubber
i wouldn't use the wiki for a paper but for basic knowledge its fine
that should already explain why it's broken
if i own a plot of 5 by 5m full of natural resources
its going to be less
not in hoi4
than every other country with those resources spread out
on average it will be less
the less land you have
the less resources you have
not really
geography is a key factor sure
except for minors
dual booting vic 3 and hoi4 to proof a point will my computer explode
think UAE irl
pc exploding is not the point btw
japan is big but has nothing
same for every countries in africa
middle east
eastern europe
so that doesn't mean anything
why do we think japan went imperialist?
Venezuela has oil
South Africa chrome
this is true
also true
🤦♂️
why did you deviate the subject
it wasn't about x has y
it was about why coring asia is better than europe
Pretty much
apparently we're not playing the same game
Places* being India, dutch east indies and Malaysia
well im playing lungs of aluminum 7
what are you playing?
rubber sim
When I played Rome as Italy I had basically no shortages on anything except rubber

