hoi4-general

[wanton whale]

Soviet union 'promising' something

too good to be true

[safe wing]

He was a fascist and thought the USSR would give him amnesty

[wanton whale]

Facists and communists despise eachother

[safe wing]

Just because he was Russian

[wanton whale]

Now that I think about it

You have socialist and communist

VS

[safe wing]

Also he was very anti German irl

[wanton whale]

Every other ideology

[safe wing]

Like him allying with Nazi germany is basically innacurate

[wanton whale]

Yeah but this is hoi4

[safe wing]

As he viewed the Germans responsible for the revolution

[wanton whale]

Also how come I am not timed out right now? I got timed out for sending this last time!

[safe wing]

There was an old mod that fixed that

[wanton whale]

I mean... Karl marx

[safe wing]

It was called white Russia reworked

[safe wing]

Lenin sent via traincar by the german government during wwi is what what I meant

[wanton whale]

Well yeah

From switzerland to-

WAIT A SECOND

Mussolini - Went from Italy to switzerland back to italy back to switzerland back to italy, did politics, kicked out, started facism, boom, faicst italy

Lenin - Thrown out of Russia to Switzerland and then transported back by some Germans to russia

Something is fishy about Switzerland...

[lean kettle]

Forgot I had that mod installed

oops

[jovial carbon]

Why is Novum vex so easy

[wanton whale]

Can people please tell me why people are so obsessed with my little pony

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-dunk-dunk-meme-funny-gif-18421476442298726961

[sonic sand]

theres a hearts of iron 4 mod called equestria at war

and its very popular in the community

[wanton whale]

Yeah yeah ik that

But why are people Obsessed with it

[sonic sand]

theres also an unusually large section of the my little pony audience who are adults

no one really understands why this has happened

[wanton whale]

there was a school shooting in America because some guy who was 17 was called cringe or smth because he watched my little pony at 17 (like mentioned)

[sonic sand]

yeah its just weird

[ripe bone]

Hey guys im stuck in my gameplay anyone can help ? i convert all my civilian factory to military factory, how do i build my chivilian factory now ?

[sonic sand]

idk

[safe wing]

I watched that show too but I grew out of it

It was a meh show

Regular show though

[wanton whale]

Yeah when I was a child I watched it

[sonic sand]

you're kinda cooked

[wanton whale]

Not when I'm preparing for my exams

[sonic sand]

you need civilian factories as much as you need military ones

[safe wing]

Regular show is my favorite cartoon show

You know who else likes regular show

[ripe bone]

i only left 1 civilian factory but i it doesnt want to build my other chiv factory

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[sonic sand]

see if there is anything in your focus tree that gives civs

[wanton whale]

Insane

[sonic sand]

convert them back!

not entirely

[safe wing]

Me and my parents watch it from time to time

[ripe bone]

i did but its not converting

[safe wing]

Because we have fond memories of us watching it in the 2010’s

[sonic sand]

i guess what im saying is that your run is most likely over

[safe wing]

South Park is my favorite western adult cartoon

[sonic sand]

because you need both civilian and military factories to have a good economy

the reason your one civilian factory doesn't work is probably because its producing consumer goods

[ripe bone]

i hear you can get the productional factory from trade but no one buy it

[wanton whale]

fair fair

[sonic sand]

yeah

[wanton whale]

South park is peak

[sonic sand]

as did I

but like

[ripe bone]

yea, can i turn of consumer good and begin working on chiv factory ?

[sonic sand]

you can't turn it off

[wanton whale]

It's a childrens TV show and people make NSFW out of it... THEY ARE GODAMN PONIES

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-fight-eric-cartman-kyle-broflovski-stan-marsh-kenny-mccormick-gif-22317069

[safe wing]

People make nsfw out of any form of media unfortunately

[sonic sand]

but change your economic policy and hire the financial expert for less consumer goods factor

[safe wing]

Because its the internet

[ripe bone]

also idk why my country keep asking for more consumer goods its make me running out chiv factory too in my previous playthrought

[wanton whale]

People are just weird

[sonic sand]

rule 34 if something exists there will be nsfw made of it. something something.

[safe wing]

And the internet itself has a rule for, internet rule 34

[safe wing]

Pretty much a rule since the 2000s when the rule was created

[dusky burrow]

Get all the production buffs and then get heavy gantry cranes

[unkempt orchid]

Should I make a ww1 mod or a 1885 mod

[sonic sand]

cold war

[ripe bone]

anyone able to help me 🙁

???

[sonic sand]

i already gave you steps to fix it

but you really did cook your run

you cant just

turn all your civilian factories to military ones

[ripe bone]

can i invade other country to get factory ?

[sonic sand]

you can try

[ripe bone]

or in the end i need to build it ?

[sonic sand]

but if your a small country good luck

if you're a big country thats different

1885

[ripe bone]

is the factory get destroyed when i invade them ?

[sonic sand]

kinda

not permanently

[ripe bone]

then in the end i need to build it to use it ?

[sonic sand]

rebuild it

but not all of them

some of them are fine

also you won't get access to all of them unless its a core state

[ripe bone]

is it use chivilian factory to rebuild it ?

[sonic sand]

yes

civilians build

mils produce

[ripe bone]

well i only have 1 chiv factory anf currently used to make custommer goods, can i still rebuild them ?

[sonic sand]

unfortunately

[sonic sand]

well if its on consumer goods

then its not doing anything

[ripe bone]

so invading wont fix the problem ?

[sonic sand]

but if you capture a region you will get access to those factories

depends on who you attack

and how many factories they have

[ripe bone]

am i need to rebuild them when i capture them ?

[cursive oxide]

How not to lose a war because Italy AI ?

[devout trench]

Invade them

[sonic sand]

some of them if theyre strat bombed by planes or sabotaged by the ai

[cursive oxide]

The join the Soviets cus both ar fighting turkey

And I'm at war with Yugoslavia and japan

[sonic sand]

basically its situational

what nation are you playing

[devout trench]

What did you do in your playthrough 😭

How

[ripe bone]

so i can get chivilian factory by capturing enemy nation without bombing them ?

[sonic sand]

yes

what nation are you playing

[cursive oxide]

Idk bro 😭

[ripe bone]

im playing AFAR traying some challange

[devout trench]

1885 mod since we already have a peak ww1 mod

[quaint kettle]

Guys how do I unlock the prototype vehicles? I’ve got the pack and I’m playing as the uk

[unkempt orchid]

Redux?

[sonic sand]

reset!

[ripe bone]

thankyou, then i will invade ETHIOPIA

[devout trench]

Great War redux

[nova rune]

is the fire rises a good mod

[quaint kettle]

Chat?

[devout trench]

If you have a rtx 9090 then yes

[nova rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238339978497622107/1352862721493962805/attachment.gif

[unkempt orchid]

you think 1885 is good?

[ripe bone]

also how much years the game capped ?

[devout trench]

I am a fan of 1860 personally

[nova rune]

like 53 until your pc starts frying itself

[devout trench]

Or 1866

[ripe bone]

why ?

what happen in 53 ?

[devout trench]

That’s when the game becomes so unplayable it crashes

[nova rune]

by 53 like 30 nations have 100+ divs

makes it lag

[devout trench]

Because of the mass amount of calculations that is needed

[nova rune]

that too

[cursive oxide]

You pc Wil die

[ripe bone]

i have good specification tho

[nova rune]

okay then get rt56

[devout trench]

Game engine is the problem

[nova rune]

or play modded

[nova rune]

or the best option, play tfr

[ripe bone]

so good spec wont effect much ?

[cursive oxide]

3k+ divs

Yes and no

[devout trench]

It will but the game engine itself will cause lag

[ripe bone]

can i go into year 2000

[nova rune]

i dont think so

[cursive oxide]

With mods

[nova rune]

thats why millenium dawn exists

[devout trench]

There is mods for that

[ripe bone]

is there mod to fix this game engine problem ?

[devout trench]

Nowhere enough game content to get to 2000

[devout trench]

No unfortunately

[nova rune]

nope but if you want to go to 2000 then download The Fire Rises or Millenium Dawn mods

[devout trench]

Unless you recode the entire game

[ripe bone]

how to find this mod ?

[devout trench]

Workshop

On steam

[nova rune]

go to Steam > Workshop > Hearts of Iron IV > Search up Millenium Dawn > Subscribe

[devout trench]

I manually install my mods

[ripe bone]

do i need to do some export import file or something ?

[nova rune]

not if you

download it via steam

[devout trench]

No

[ripe bone]

how to do that and where to download it ?

[nova rune]

then to activate it you have to go to Hearts of Iron IV (launcher) > Playset > Add Mod > Whichever mod you just downloaded

[devout trench]

It is a complicated process if you have no experience in it

[cursive oxide]

No just press subscribe and make a mod preset in hoi4 launcher

[ripe bone]

i love challange tho

also installing your own mod give you more leway for mod version selection

since i have done that with minecraft

[cursive oxide]

@ripe bone google the mod press the link login to steam press subscribe go to hoi4 launcher mods or preset make a present and ad the mod(s) and play

[devout trench]

That is not how hoi4 mod work…

Hoi4 mods normally won’t function correctly if it is not the right version

[ripe bone]

how that work then ? its diffrent from other game mod like minecraft ?

[devout trench]

Because all of them rely on complex calculation which changes about every update

If that happens then mod can’t function

Minecraft core mechanics never change fr

[cursive oxide]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Sbjr8nrkghA?si=3X5LxipVae2w0GS5

[nova rune]

bro i accidentally clicked broken hearts island on workshop instead of hoi4 😭

[ripe bone]

diffrent version will result the game to crash

[nova rune]

i got flashed

[devout trench]

Most likely

Very specific mods that do not rely at all on the base game code will function no matter the version

[cursive oxide]

@ripe bone here is a tutorial

[safe wing]

Personal take but I think world war 2 started in 1937

[nova rune]

why is that

[safe wing]

Because Second Sino Japanese war

Which run until August 1945

[ripe bone]

ok, thankyou

[nova rune]

a world war by definition is when there is a war connected to all continents

i think

example

sino japanese was only in asia

[safe wing]

Same can be said for Europe tbh

[devout trench]

What is your definition of connected

[nova rune]

allied

[safe wing]

From 1939-1940

[nova rune]

ww1 had a participant in every continent

[devout trench]

Bc US and Britain supplied china during second sino-Japanese war

[nova rune]

ww2 too

[nova rune]

were they allied to them?

or just supplying them

[devout trench]

By that logic ww2 didn’t start until 1941

[safe wing]

Germany trained kmt china for a brief period of time

[devout trench]

Actually nah I forgot Canada

[nova rune]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-danger-computer-gif-gif-7628543750344360850

"now tell him how"

[devout trench]

My fault 😭

I forgot Canadians existed

[nova rune]

canada has only fought

like 5 wars

maybe 6 or 7

i forgot

[devout trench]

Second sino-Japanese war was like

First domino

[nova rune]

well

yes but no

[nova rune]

linkin park

peak

[devout trench]

Linkin park is always peak

[nova rune]

yes

u american?

[devout trench]

Yes

[shut gazelle]

when will there be a dlc for Abdulaziz ibn Saud

[nova rune]

im venezuelan so we're opposed in a political view

[nova rune]

dlc for WHAT now?

[devout trench]

Ck3 ahh name

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-professor-farnsworth-bender-gif-25198969

[shut gazelle]

Saudi Arabia

[nova rune]

oh

well

never

[safe wing]

he is referring to the King of the country

In 1936

[devout trench]

Did saudi not get a focus tree in GoE?

[nova rune]

off topic but

[safe wing]

Honestly they need a generic tree with minor unique flavor

[safe wing]

No

[shut gazelle]

this one

[nova rune]

if WE got a million dollars for every person WE killed in video games

WE'd be wealthy

unless you played switzerland everytime you put your hands on hoi4

[fickle cove]

yk what's crazy? this guy's grandson is ruling saudi arabia today.

[devout trench]

I am a Soviet player who is a fond believer in the human wave

Make me a trillionaire

[nova rune]

holy peak

[safe wing]

And his family existed as far back in 1444

And where ruling Najd

[cursive oxide]

I have kills millons

[fickle cove]

FOR REAL?

[nova rune]

"kills millions"

😭

[safe wing]

Yes

[devout trench]

I play as his dynasty in ck3 sometimes

[cursive oxide]

Dumm autocorret

[nova rune]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[cursive oxide]

[devout trench]

Where is my Hirohito chins

[nova rune]

hirohito doesnt hit the gym

you see how short he is

[safe wing]

I’ve killed 8 million Russians, Japanese and Chinese as the Kaiserin in my current war against the Greater east asian co prosperity sphere

[devout trench]

1866

[nova rune]

is this peak or no

[unkempt orchid]

Why so specific

[devout trench]

Another 8 million to mao

[devout trench]

Because

[safe wing]

Tsarist Russia and Fascist Japan are in the same faction

[nova rune]

lowk thinking of playing imperial germany 🤑

[nova rune]

are you playing nonhistorical

[safe wing]

Its fun

[nova rune]

ok

[safe wing]

Yes

[cursive oxide]

[safe wing]

What do you want to do who do you want to fight

[nova rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1216418208400281661/1223313095552667689/attachment-1-1.gif

[devout trench]

Add economy into hoi4

I want my ducats

[cursive oxide]

No

[nova rune]

form greater germany

probably

[cursive oxide]

Just get a mod

[nova rune]

as far as i know

[safe wing]

You can form the European union or the Holy Roman Empire

[nova rune]

no mod adds economy into ww2

[jaunty delta]

economy is only needed if you're democratic

[nova rune]

unfortunately im not the type of guy to spend a dodechadronicamillion dollars on dlc

[devout trench]

Only one that does that is MD

[safe wing]

But you get cores on austria, Sudetenland lodz Biastok, and Plock

[nova rune]

so hitler couldve invaded poland with a crippled economy

[sonic sand]

@ripe bone did it work?

[jaunty delta]

yes

[safe wing]

France could have counter invaded

[nova rune]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-gamble-gambler-old-man-addiction-gif-13539663578305331391

[safe wing]

But their high command was incompetent

[nova rune]

1866

[safe wing]

Go to #modding

[nova rune]

you know what

im gonna larp italy

[sonic sand]

hes been asking this

for a couple hours

[safe wing]

IK

[devout trench]

Use only ww1 tech and get pushed back out of Albania and Greece

[nova rune]

on civillian

[safe wing]

Try normal

[nova rune]

i was jokin

[safe wing]

Mountaineers are your tanks as italy btw

[nova rune]

ok

thanks

[devout trench]

Infantry are the tanks

[jaunty delta]

cant believe paradox is profiting over the death of my great grandparents.

genuinely wtf is wrong with them?

[safe wing]

Special forces infantry in Italys case

[safe wing]

Creative assembly profits off of history too tbh

[nova rune]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[jaunty delta]

where's my share of profits?

[soft tendon]

uh guys am I cooked

[safe wing]

In my case Wheres mine for the us civil war as my family fought in the union

[devout trench]

Why are you zimbabwe

[soft tendon]

because

[dusky burrow]

Italy has a lot of mountains indeed

[sonic sand]

yes but actually no

[jaunty delta]

"corruption is only bad if i am not involved"

[safe wing]

And they get focuses’s for mountaineers too

[sonic sand]

basically

you get

everyone fighting against you

so

thats bad

but

unless they can naval invade you then you're fine

[safe wing]

Didn’t he bankrupt his country

Even though it was well off at the time when he took it over

[jaunty delta]

that's just Africa innit

[devout trench]

Botswana on top

[nova rune]

what did bro do

[safe wing]

Except for Botswana

[jaunty delta]

absolutely horrible what's been happening to Africa, a continent the size of like the entire eurasia 😭

[safe wing]

Who is the Singapore of Africa

[soft tendon]

well I have an absolute air superiority, but

[jaunty delta]

South africa good too no?

[devout trench]

South Africa is insanely corrupted

[safe wing]

Its falling apart

[sonic sand]

naval bomber

[devout trench]

And a lot of the people are in poverty there

[soft tendon]

attack a nation guaranteed by germany (nato member)

[sonic sand]

if you want to

attack a landlocked country

[soft tendon]

nice idea

[sonic sand]

because they can't get any troops in

[safe wing]

apartheid killed that countries future IMO

[nova rune]

angentreten

[devout trench]

Real

[safe wing]

They would have been much better off without that horrific policy

[jaunty delta]

its also funny to sometimes see commies that try to turn USSR into the "african saving superpower" lol

[safe wing]

USSR only cared for its own interests

Just like every other great power tbh

[devout trench]

I want more Africa stuff in hoi4

[sinful cloud]

one missed invasion and now i'm fed

[devout trench]

Like colonial administrations for the French and British parts of Africa

Also Liberian focus tree

[safe wing]

USSR was a Russian Empire with a red mask essentially

[nova rune]

bro

ts frying me'

[bright arrow]

Africa is like South America

A pain because of terrain

Also their geography is kinda boring

[devout trench]

Malaria

[sinful cloud]

i guess historically accurate run eve thought i'm germany lol

[devout trench]

I have become a educated in malaria at this point

[sinful cloud]

italy being useless as always

[devout trench]

Too many hours in Vic 3

[safe wing]

Not when I play Italy

[bright arrow]

What the reproduction cycle of the protist?

[devout trench]

-90% construction speed

[wanton whale]

Yeah

[sinful cloud]

italy is mega fun when you play it, but as an AI teamate,just sucks

[safe wing]

100%

[bright arrow]

There are 2 countries that i hate more than anything as allies

Latvia and Denmark

[heavy vigil]

Whats up people of general chat

[jaunty delta]

wtf that's got to do with Latvia?

[devout trench]

Danish Tibet

[safe wing]

Nothing much

[bright arrow]

All they do is declare war on majors and ruin you

[subtle elm]

abnormally high people in vc

[bright arrow]

Dont accept them into your faction

[devout trench]

Their dividing Germany rn

[safe wing]

Latvia got annexed by the whites in my current run

And Denmark is just chilling

Also the Whites won the second Russian civil war in 5 months

Well the ai did

[subtle elm]

bordergore speedrun

[bright arrow]

I remember being Germany, doing the focus for Northern Sleschwig, and Denmark just surrenders becoming a puppet and doesn't even give me the state

[ancient kelp]

when is the next dev diary

[bright arrow]

And then somehow they still go around their focus tree declaring war on nations dispite being puppets

I hate them

[spiral flame]

so many pings :agony:

[dusky burrow]

Existing

[heavy vigil]

fun !

[marsh ravine]

Ur screen time?

[spiral flame]

denied, you going to the Naval Invasions that never happen

[fervent minnow]

barely surviving

[heavy vigil]

50 hours a day

[dusky burrow]

general grinding is sad unfortunately

[paper echo]

have yall ever seen ma bufang playing hoi4 and doing a gameplay

[spiral flame]

wait, thatg breaks laws, there are only 24 hours in a day

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt

[spiral flame]

heh?

[devout trench]

top 10 ways to learn navy

[heavy vigil]

its screen time not normal time

[dusky burrow]

The enemy navy just chased a submarine

We're launching

[heavy vigil]

you can have 10 screens and 1 hour would be 10h screen time

[spiral flame]

there is no navy: Game says no naval superiority

[devout trench]

i spend 23 hours on hoi4

[spiral flame]

LMAO

[bright arrow]

If you play them at 2x speed you get 20h screen time in 1h

[heavy vigil]

no that is not how screen time works smh

screen time is the real amount of hours spent per screen which can be additive

like hoi4 national modifiers in battle.....

[lavish basalt]

I declared one war

[dusky burrow]

Which country is that

[lavish basalt]

honduras

[azure palm]

I'm not winning this...

[heavy vigil]

use your civs damn

[lavish basalt]

I have 2

[heavy vigil]

ok so use them

[lavish basalt]

I am

[heavy vigil]

make a land facility if no build slots

[lavish basalt]

I'm buying convoys

[heavy vigil]

build ?

[bright arrow]

Whats a Neo-Chagatai?

[dusky burrow]

I mean give them some slack they only have 2 other factories

[heavy vigil]

more than me some games

[azure palm]

sinkiang but facist

[dusky burrow]

But yeah in this general area

So yeah Xinjiang

[bright arrow]

Why is their flag a tumor?

[azure palm]

wich one?

[bright arrow]

It doesn't even look like Xinjiang

[dusky burrow]

I think you can win this

[azure palm]

5.8 millio against 13 million

[bright arrow]

The Neo-Chagatai blob

[azure palm]

Im not winning this.

[kindred viper]

so true

[dusky burrow]

Sweden is fighting both you and the Russians I assume

[azure palm]

ITS ONLY SWEDEN

and no, they are fighting only me and spain

and my allies

[dusky burrow]

Oh I see

[azure palm]

and like 60 divisions are encricled in the baltics

[dusky burrow]

In any case clean up the naval invasion in France first, then try to encircle Russians, then etc etc

[azure palm]

and its iron man so i cant reload a save before

[azure palm]

its complicated, because im trying, but I dont have any divisions to do that

[dusky burrow]

Evacuate Sweden proper because that's untenable

[azure palm]

already doing that

or atleast trying

all my units are pinned

[dusky burrow]

Also how did you lose 4.26 million while Russia only lost 1.54 million

[bright arrow]

This was my starting situation

[azure palm]

I had a long fight against naval invasions, france, venezuella, and sweden

and I lost my whole army in britain when I tried an invasion

[bright arrow]

Which became this

[azure palm]

good luck

[dusky burrow]

You don't tend to lose that much in naval invasions

[bright arrow]

Because of freaking Denmark

[dusky burrow]

Did they keep taking ports?

[bright arrow]

Cuz they kept declaring wars

[dusky burrow]

Denmark kept declaring wars?

[azure palm]

I lost all the ports and then lost like 120 divisions

[bright arrow]

They became my puppet via their insta surrender

But then kept declaring wars because of their focus tree

[dusky burrow]

Oof

Try not doing that tbh

Make mech guards if needed

[azure palm]

did that, forgot to set them back up after one invasion got through in the benelux

thats how this mess started

[bright arrow]

But then i was saved by 2 Yellow Angels and was able to push back

[azure palm]

and then the soviets took berlin?

[bright arrow]

And this is where i left, cuz it was 3 am

[azure palm]

Im just gonna re start i guess

or wait until I capitulate

[bright arrow]

This whole thing was a "never give up" story

I was literally fighting for my life

Had -30k gun deficit

And 100% thing on conquest economy

[dusky burrow]

Fair

[azure palm]

Also my airforce is gone. Just gone

[dusky burrow]

Yeah probably a restart because oof

I bet it is still salvageable

[trail nymph]

Did they personally fly out in those fighters or what?

[azure palm]

yeah but I have too many skill issues for that

[dusky burrow]

Probably

Getting 120 divisions encircled by a naval landing is oof

[azure palm]

I dont know how it happend... i controlled half of england...

[dusky burrow]

Oh I see

[azure palm]

And then the russians came, just declared war on me, I had to divert half of my army from france to russia just to hold...

and before that france joined the allies even though they nearly capitulated

[bright arrow]

It looks really salvageable by what you sent

You have most of Europe under your control

[azure palm]

Yeah but im losing europe and have 0 manpower

my navy already got obliterated by the british

[bright arrow]

Did you go down which land doctrine?

[azure palm]

The planning one

[bright arrow]

Ah shame, if you had the German starter one you could have switched to the +5% manpower

Thats what i did on my save

[azure palm]

my army is a disaster. I dont even have tanks

[bright arrow]

To get 2M more men out

[azure palm]

Is there an achievemeant for reforming the holy roman empire anyways or am I doing this just for the mental torment?

[dusky burrow]

Mobile warfare is not that good at offense but could work in defense

Funnily enough

It gives org and the tactic backhand blow

Plus recruitable pop

[safe wing]

How am I going to cap Japan and China as the Kaiserin?

[azure palm]

Not at all

[dusky burrow]

Grand Battleplan is generally good at offensive

[safe wing]

I have a fleet being built

[azure palm]

I was on the offense for 90% of the game so

[safe wing]

And I’m fighting Russia who is allied to them

[dusky burrow]

If you cap the UK first then yeah

[safe wing]

I’m on the same side as the UK

[dusky burrow]

Ah I see

I don't think you can rush this

[safe wing]

We are both fighting Japan and Russia

America is too

[dusky burrow]

To capitulate Japan you need a base near Japan

So maybe a push from the Kurils?

[safe wing]

I have the pacific colonies

[dusky burrow]

Ah good then push from there

Strike force and set up naval invasions (1 per division, and 3 per tile)

[safe wing]

And I’m holding Rabaul with my colonial army

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[safe wing]

Russia is almost dead

[dusky burrow]

Wait

US has philippines no?

[safe wing]

They lost them but I have an idea

Im gonna send the German navy to Tananzia

[dusky burrow]

For?

[safe wing]

Naval invasion to the occupied dutch east indies

[dusky burrow]

I see

Rubber is a good idea

[soft tendon]

god

[azure palm]

by the way, britain still hasnt done their political focus tree. IF they go facists wich I hope they will probably go into civil war wich might save me from them atleast

[gusty willow]

every time i decide to play old hoi4 i conveniently forget how atrocious the states were

i'm glad i at least joined at 1.5 though
stability and war support being one and the same sounds uh

very not good

[green magnet]

is this too expensive?

[dusky burrow]

Not that expensive tbh

Beware that you will need armor however

[green magnet]

might remove the MG for sloped or side skirts

or the autoloader

wait i forgot i can do that

nvm

i'd say this is fine

[remote quarry]

don't use modern tank

[green magnet]

I just want to use the centurion model

[dusky burrow]

I'm confused I can't replicate your stats

Do you have like a 10% bonus to soft and hard attack somewhere?

[sonic sand]

is this a good template for attacking?

[green magnet]

ig these

[dusky burrow]

Huh there's something I am definitely missing

[nova rune]

peak

[sonic sand]

but its arty

[nova rune]

you still got 50.6 org tho[

[sonic sand]

and everyone says its bad

[nova rune]

i suggest adding more artillery

[sonic sand]

so the stats are good

but

[nova rune]

idk

not that good with divisions

[sonic sand]

because its arty

its shit

[nova rune]

ye

[sonic sand]

makes no sense

[cedar charm]

I found a neat little exploit, if you make an amphibious tank and put an AA gun on it, it wont forbid it remaining an amphibious tank since the devs only considered to make it forbid light medium and heavy tanks, but amphib tanks are their own thing, so you can have SPAA without the penalties that come with the label.

[dusky burrow]

Well you still lose 15% break

And get no AA attack bonuses

[nova rune]

i have never played japan in my 1100+ hrs

[safe wing]

I have

[dusky burrow]

Also you need 50 instead of 36 tanks now

[remote quarry]

I can see the line artillery in there

[sonic sand]

and?

[remote quarry]

just an average bad template

[cedar charm]

true, which is why i've found the exploit only has the niche use for giving marines armor and some AA attack without compromising the armor buff.

[safe wing]

I only use 3 divisions for attack special forces, armor or 22/0 infantry with mass mob

And always supported by CAS

[sharp sierra]

no cas no doctrine no support companies >

[gleaming acorn]

Guys I’ve got a question what’s a effective cheap tank template that doesn’t take up tons of resources but is still good

[jaunty delta]

im gonna get my car from the mechanic in 2 days 🤩

[jaunty delta]

med tanks and enough trucks to have 40 org

[safe wing]

Medium with 2 hmg, rivited armor, arty cannon, and 3 man turret

And maintenance company or wet ammunition depending on the hear

[gleaming acorn]

Alr

I’ll try

[dusky burrow]

breakthrough is low

[nova rune]

what does breakthrough even do

[dusky burrow]

Prevents the enemy from damaging you

[nova rune]

oh

[agile panther]

Navy in this game is so easy

[safe wing]

It is

[sharp sierra]

yea it is really simple

[safe wing]

I’m building a mega fleet of battleships and carriers and light cruisers atm

Won’t be done till 1943

[agile panther]

And I have the man of the gun dlc

[safe wing]

Just in time to fight the UK and USA

[agile panther]

I crush the British navy as Poland

[sharp sierra]

at least to functionally play with it its easy but theres a lot of thought that goes into some stats that idc about

[safe wing]

I’m playing as the Kaiserin on nonhist btw for the achievement

[dusky burrow]

So something like this

[safe wing]

I use something very similar to this

[slim nexus]

Play multiplayer

[safe wing]

I just remove the aa and add another mountaineer

[sharp sierra]

i add a bunch

[last cave]

holy based❤️

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[green magnet]

bomber of doom

[slim nexus]

Russian Pig

[soft tendon]

mhm

[slim nexus]

🐺

[charred thistle]

hoi4

[broken sky]

By God, the Allies are so meaty

[safe wing]

Me as Imperial Germany fighting Imperial Russia Imperial Japan and Japanese subjugated China:

[agile panther]

I don't have time

[slim nexus]

How did you get all this in 2 years

[broken sky]

Early war?

[safe wing]

I’m gonna attack Estonia next to make the German Baltic states

[sharp sierra]

game int that hard

[safe wing]

Nah its just that Japan and China are throwing in bodies against me

Slowing me down

[broken sky]

I was bored and figured I'd try to throw hands against Germany and the Allies

[safe wing]

But I’m still winning

[last cave]

so mad?

[broken sky]

But... err... Netherlands...

[sharp sierra]

i was talking to the other guy

[last cave]

its easy

[safe wing]

MB

[sharp sierra]

yea i just didnt wanna hurt ur feelings

[safe wing]

I don’t play Germany much tbh

I primarily play Italy

[broken sky]

Italy is good

[safe wing]

And the USSR

[broken sky]

Backseating is good, especially in MP games

I'd hate to be Germany and be center of comms

With Italy, you can just...

[thorny pond]

anyone wanna play r56?

[safe wing]

Make the Mediterranean your personal lake

Damn autocorrect

[frank igloo]

this new chinese focus tree for china is so easy peasy

[broken sky]

Meet the British in the seas, the French in land, the Russians in the East... what a life

Coasting through life without problem

[safe wing]

Huh?

It hasn’t been revealed I thought

[frank igloo]

yeah I united china in 1936

[thorny pond]

are shock troops the best for breakthrough?

[frank igloo]

OH WAIT

for r56

sorry

[agile panther]

What is the best mod for hoi4

[sharp sierra]

whats a shock troop

[safe wing]

Kaiserredux IMO

For most replay value

[bright arrow]

Depends what you want

Kaiserreidux is schizo paths all around

[agile panther]

I like kaiserredux

[bright arrow]

And infinite nonsense

[thorny pond]

I think its r56

[agile panther]

But hate TNO

[broken sky]

Depends if you want a novel or another timeline but retaining the same flexibility as base game

[sharp sierra]

tf is that

[safe wing]

Urgen Von Sternberg being Khan though

[bright arrow]

Mr Skelly Bones

[thorny pond]

type of special forces

[agile panther]

The rt56 is also good

[slim nexus]

Is this a mod ?

[safe wing]

Shock troopers

[broken sky]

There's the:

(TNO, Kaiserreich, The Fire Rises)

Novel-shit

Kaiserredux, RT56, & co.

Wacky shit

[sharp sierra]

whats that from

[safe wing]

I fall into the latter category

[safe wing]

Road to 56

Its a new type of special forces

[thorny pond]

where millenium dawn at

[broken sky]

NASA supercomputer type

[safe wing]

More like Millennium Yawn

[bright arrow]

Kaiserreich is when you want a true in dept politics experience. And Kaiserreidux is when you want to turn your brain off and just role with whatever comes

[safe wing]

Because Nothing ever happens in MD

[nova rune]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[broken sky]

See, that's where you're wrong

I'm willing to crash the economy just to reclaim a tiny piece of ''''historical'''' land

[crisp wyvern]

ive been playing hoi4 for so long that it feels weird for me to look at a modern map

and see germany without gdynia, danzig, and silesia

[bright arrow]

I think the problem with Kaiserreich is that they can make runs last several days due to reading and events

That may be good if you want a really streched out game with very deep flesh

[thorny pond]

people play this game non stop for days?

[safe wing]

I don’t have this problem and i’ve been playing since 2019

[bright arrow]

You can save and come back the next day lol

[safe wing]

People played Europa Barbarorum For months nonstop

Which was a historical overhaul mod for Rome total war

[bright arrow]

But while a hoi4 game can get you to 1944 in a night, if you play Germany in KR you probably get to 1937 in a night, just because of how many events you have to read

[crisp wyvern]

some are actually sane enough to save a run and come back the next day, only the wicked who have truly no way to be saved during the rapture play non-stop

[safe wing]

Took me 6 hours to conquer Cisalpine Gaul as Rome

[crisp wyvern]

that was way too specific

[dusky burrow]

this is based

[bright arrow]

Too much France

[thorny pond]

anyone wanna play r56 🙏 (im a noob)

[bright arrow]

Please stop

[safe wing]

Not Napoleonic so no

[dusky burrow]

Nah this is just the EU

[bright arrow]

Shout-out to the little swiss tumor

[dusky burrow]

Switzerland is under military occupation

So is Great Britain

Russia will be balkanized

[safe wing]

Probably gonna do the same when I conquer them as Germany via peace deal

I already have the Kingdom of Ukraine and Belarus setup as puppet states

And hopefully Transcaucasia

Even if I have oil rights in Baku still

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[safe wing]

I have close to 75% war participation

[buoyant gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907367804594954272/1424803796005158952/doormonk.gif?ex=68ee81f0&is=68ed3070&hm=d006a94daa787e6ee4adb17e4aaed5c704b821fbe56c7f9f487ec3cd7dc4222c&

@idle cradle

[vapid oasis]

So i had this crazy plan to do stalinist greece so when italy invades, they'd bring the soviets into ww2 early and mess up the germans.

Then I realized in order to get the most out of greek stalinism I'd have to do the bosporus incident with turkey, which essentially winds down to a war with turkey whenether you win the border conflict or not.

in short, communist greece is not worth the war with turkey

[warped flint]

I will liberate all of ukraine

[green magnet]

is this good?

[frank igloo]

wtf are you playing

are you the soviets??

[green magnet]

console brits

[lapis snow]

Remove the line arty, strip down to 18w or push up to 36. Otherwise it’s pretty poor

Supports are ok though

[safe wing]

They popped up in my last game in that exact place

[green magnet]

like this?

[safe wing]

I attacked them to give Austria Hungary the Region back

[dusky burrow]

where did you get 130 organization

and 337 hp

And 404 soft attack

[green magnet]

i just put shit in and thats what i got

i would assume from the designers

[heavy vigil]

Still worse soft per width

[nova rune]

bro

how is the ai germany losing to france

im crying bro

[heavy vigil]

Happens to players too

[nova rune]

yup

[calm crag]

Gang whats the best template for a offensive division?

[vapid oasis]

gonna play a baltic nation today, gonna try to see if the puppet focus helps me survive longer.

I'm thinking estonia

[austere flower]

go lithuania the rest r boring

https://tenor.com/view/meme-down-syndrome-funny-tongue-action-tongue-out-meme-gif-572114404054760484

[warped flint]

Wait are these unique generals???/

[vapid oasis]

aight

[heavy vigil]

Those are for ukraine yes

Georgia also gets some

And belarus iirc

[dusky burrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykhailo_Omelianovych-Pavlenko

[vapid oasis]

you know, I COULD blow up my country and turn communist via civil war, then puppet up with my soviet friends and unite with belarus

as hoi4 lithuania btw

[heavy vigil]

Lithuania's strongest path is eating poland

[austere flower]

when i played lithuania all i did was form the commonwealth and its kinda fun

hard tho cuz lithuanias rly weak at the start

[vapid oasis]

ima play historical lithuania per say, but i appease the heck out of the soviets and then offer ourselves up for occupation when they come knocking

[warped flint]

What can I do to improve this

or is it good for now

[vapid oasis]

gonna see how far being a soviet puppet gets me

[dusky burrow]

AA probably

[vapid oasis]

now that you think of it, appeasing and offering up yourself as a puppet with the baltics when they invade is kind of a beta version of denmark's neutrality thing

[grizzled zenith]

What are the most realistic hoi4 mods? I thought about trying black ice but Poland being able to create Intermarum right at the start of the game and Denmark having a focus to gain a war goal on Norway doesn't seem too realistic (not like I mind but I thought it would be way more straight with its paths)

[azure palm]

what would you all say is the best doctrine for infantry germany?

And military path?

[grizzled zenith]

GBP is mathematically the best doctrine I'm pretty sure

[heavy vigil]

Mass mob prussian

[heavy vigil]

No

[grizzled zenith]

That's just funny

[heavy vigil]

Only for attacking and tanks

[grizzled zenith]

No?

[azure palm]

I always go GBP prussia

[grizzled zenith]

I thought it was

[heavy vigil]

Mass mob is always better for inf and holding

[heavy vigil]

Gbp is tank doctrine tho

[azure palm]

I guess i should change my ways

[grizzled zenith]

Kk

[azure palm]

isnt it planning bonus?

[heavy vigil]

Yes for tanks

So you can stack more modifiers

Its good when you have more modifiers which tanks do

Kinda like this

[azure palm]

Makes sense

[heavy vigil]

In a real game youll probably hit like 6K hard and soft not 12K

[azure palm]

I always heard that GBP is good and so i played it, always thought why there are so many boosts for tanks

[heavy vigil]

But thats still good

[heavy vigil]

Its my most used doctrine

But they all have uses

[azure palm]

Its better than suppressive fire doctrine or something, right?

[grizzled zenith]

Isn't GBP best for pushing with infantry?

[heavy vigil]

For attacking yes

[heavy vigil]

Why would it be?

Look at stats, not name

[azure palm]

Im just waiting for the 20th...

finally an update for the doctrines

[fair horizon]

yeah i navy

[azure palm]

Is it worth training your ships? Because so often they just sink while training

[heavy vigil]

6 attack youre missing out on 20% attack

[grizzled zenith]

Oh, what about special forces? I've been using them a lot recently as shock troopers for minors whenever I can't afford/too lazy to build tanks

[heavy vigil]

Goated

[grizzled zenith]

I mean what doctrine is the best for them

I heard GBP is

[heavy vigil]

Too tired to explain things rn

[heavy vigil]

Uuhh well gbp is better at attacking once

Mass mob lets you reinforce fast and battleplan

So kinda preference

Gbp gets higher stat tho

If you have air then mass mob SF are good

Just lower stat by a bit

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

Ima stick for GBP just cuz of the tip of the spear and the buffs are very good too

Thanks btw

[heavy vigil]

I mean all doctrines are usable with the right build

[broken sky]

GBP bonuses supremacy

This game is ruled by bonuses😎

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah but tip of the spear gives special forces cap and I often can't build enough divisions to increase that cap

Also special forces bonuses too

[heavy vigil]

Yes

[slim nexus]

I use GPB as china

Because the first doctrine gives you 10 entrenchment

[grizzled zenith]

No Mass Mob?(Insert Megamind meme)

[slim nexus]

I still die though

[plucky girder]

they won't if you actually pay attention to their strength bar

[grizzled zenith]

Damn, mass mob not GBP

[slim nexus]

Not*

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah thnx

[slim nexus]

Just put them on high repair priority

[fair horizon]

ily funny australian battleship

[heavy vigil]

Yeah it sucks for early wars

[unkempt folio]

for sheep's ai mod, is the mechanized defense option gone

[heavy vigil]

Its only good by 4th node

You should go SFP as china

[slim nexus]

It helps?

I do not have the factories for making so many of them

[heavy vigil]

Its rlly good early on and is good with many small divs

With lots of supports

[heavy vigil]

The doctrine

Superior firepower

[slim nexus]

I know

[heavy vigil]

Wdym making many of them

[slim nexus]

But My MF are not enough for making them for alls my division

Art, anti tank - air

[fair horizon]

how many do you got?

[heavy vigil]

you dont need that

You make gun

[grizzled zenith]

They mean artillery ig

[heavy vigil]

You make a bit of artillery for support companies

[heavy vigil]

2 factories

[slim nexus]

I start with
4 on fighters
4 on tactical bomber
1 on train
2 on guns

While most of you are gonna condemn me on that
I have green stable air form early warz and by 1940 I destroy the entire japan airforce

[heavy vigil]

Well yeah thats how you lose

[slim nexus]

Then I start buil on fortress on Begin, and some other costal on the right

[heavy vigil]

You have good starting efficiency

All on gun

[grizzled zenith]

1 on train? What do you need trains for, steal them from civillians

[heavy vigil]

Make artillery later

If you swap factories day 1 theyll get full efficiency

On their respective line

[slim nexus]

Also on fighter

[heavy vigil]

The way you manage production you just have less stuff

[slim nexus]

Oh

[slim nexus]

I love my people

Would never

[heavy vigil]

Your airforce will never be sufficient unless you dont have a ground army

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[heavy vigil]

And without a ground army you also lose

You want the 0.40 army xp daily guy ASAP

[fair horizon]

what the heck is this

[heavy vigil]

France right?

[slim nexus]

True that si why I make a stable 29 9 /0

[heavy vigil]

Or is it like sweden

[fair horizon]

no clue

[fair horizon]

im playing australia

[heavy vigil]

Ohh i see

Cool

[slim nexus]

Then must be a Spider

[heavy vigil]

Is it heavy? Medium?

[fair horizon]

modern light tank in rt56

[slim nexus]

Is

tonk

[fair horizon]

hmm yes i see

[fiery vapor]

How do I access my save folder? I want to submit a save to disaster savior but I can't find where to download it.

[dusky burrow]

C:\Users\[user]\OneDrive\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\save games

[fiery vapor]

i cant find that

i downloaded the game through steam if that helps

oh

nvm

thanks

[fair horizon]

so if i park my fleet off the coast of and enemy and use cas from say like 10 carriers does that get affected by sortie efficiency or anything/?

[indigo rune]

LMAO

we got robert kissler before gta6

[green magnet]

what do these mines do ?

[brave siren]

I am dreading the day they add equipment designer

[frank igloo]

@ripe slate why was the color for Centrist GMD China so ugly

whos decision was it to make it "not in faction" white

[slim nexus]

There is a mod that actually make the Ai smarter?

[frank igloo]

bro why haven't you just invaded them yet

[sudden thistle]

Sheep’s mod

[fair horizon]

wait is the ai for moving a ship to repair smart enough to give capital ships screens?

[slim nexus]

You can make this

[fair horizon]

like is this just a coincedance or nah?

[warped flint]

If I keep my territory will they immidiately attack the germans ?

[slim nexus]

I actually can't win as China on elite

Do you think I can make it

[frank igloo]

yes

[warped flint]

Ah might have to give up my cores....

Took as much manpower as I could

[slim nexus]

No

[slim nexus]

Is those your ships?

[ripe slate]

Not mine 😛

[frank igloo]

please yell at whoever did

they should have just made me the creative director for the chinese content smh

[ripe slate]

1 guy decided to make China so he's all roles for China content

[frank igloo]

WHO.

[ripe slate]

For the mod at large Im the creative director xd

[fair horizon]

yes

[ripe slate]

Can you explain what you mean exactly, I can maybe forward it

[fair horizon]

got tired of microing the repairs so i just turned on the auto split

[frank igloo]

1: I think the color is super bland
2: The Centrists of the GMD are still conservative. Li Zongren especially, y'know, being a/a former warlord.

if the color of the nation is supposed to reflect its politics

[sudden thistle]

Those difficulties don’t really do much

[sonic sand]

Lore accurate T34

[sudden thistle]

But sure u got it

[ripe slate]

I mean, Denmark is brown and it aint fascist

[sudden thistle]

I recommend doing a game first with no background knowledge and then actually ask questions the 2nd time

[brittle cypress]

I mean minus cap and research speed is pretty bad

[shut gazelle]

How can you get autonomy down fast

[frank igloo]

(which i think is a rather dumb concept for GMD China, being that the GMD had a mostly the same ideological base)

Left, Centre, and Right Tridemism, is still Tridemism

I did just finish my playthrough, and I did enjoy it

[brittle cypress]

They’re a puppet? Lend lease them stuff

[frank igloo]

but the colors looked atrocious

[brittle cypress]

Specifically convoys are good to use

It reduces their autonomy

[shut gazelle]

colony🙏

[warped flint]

So now I have a shit ton of manpower but no industry

[shut gazelle]

iraq and afghanistan
I play turkey ottoman path

[frank igloo]

other than the color, and wishing it had a LITTLE more filler content

it was pretty good

also I wish there were a few more focuses that centered around national capitalism

as that was a big part of Tridemism as a whole

[grim hearth]

Anybody got guides on mp Russia?

Wrong chaz

[frank igloo]

GBP

[dusky burrow]

Oof

[grim hearth]

Tanks?

[dusky burrow]

Mighta s well conquer Hungary while you're at it

[frank igloo]

are you doing a tank mp russia

?

im confuse

d

[warped flint]

Whats the point?

[grim hearth]

Ukraine without the kraine

[warped flint]

Oh wait industry

[grim hearth]

Idk how to play russia mp

[brittle cypress]

Are you playing vanilla MP or modded mp?

[grim hearth]

Vanila

[frank igloo]

lots of 32 width infantry with anti tank

[brittle cypress]

I heavily recommend against tanks in vanilla specially if you don’t know how to play the Soviets

in multiplayer

I can post an industry guide, but ignore the tank part

You need to do mass mob infantry

Something like this

You rush gun 3 and battleplan Germany day 1

You need army xp for full doctrine

So you’ll need to send volunteers to Spain, pick army reformer

[dusky burrow]

Well if you have spare manpower but no industry you could conquer your neighbors for said industry while the manpower can be used for occupation duties