hoi4-general

[bright forum]

It's annoying and I'm kinda sick of it

[quaint kettle]

whats a navy??

[bright forum]

It's this ridiculously obnoxious thing where your boats sit around doing nothing despite you giving them orders whilst getting swarmed by enemy boats.

[fair horizon]

what orders are you giving and are you selecting a region for them to operate in?

[bright forum]

And your elite team can't land on Oslo but can land a few metres away only for nobody to be able to go over there and help.

[fair horizon]

i am naval expert

[heavy vigil]

Can always click unit icons

Might be blocked off by a capital ship tho

[bright forum]

When I want to naval invade, it's like 30% naval supremacy, 30% naval patrol, 20% naval invasion support and another 20% on convoy raiding.

[fair horizon]

it wasnt letting me attack from land, i had to go and naval invade it for some reason

[heavy vigil]

.

[fair horizon]

it wasnt, there wasnt any enemy navies left lol

[heavy vigil]

Smaem

[fair horizon]

pictures please, usually your main force should be on strike force and you dont need ships patrolling unless you have scouting cruisers

[outer wigeon]

I'm thinking about returning after almost 2y off, but I have around 1200h total. What should I be aware off (all dlcs enabled)?

[bright forum]

I deleted the save out of sheer anger.

[fair horizon]

fair enough

[bright forum]

I'll quickly show you something like what I'd do as Britain though.

[fair horizon]

also for naval invasion support 3 battleships and 4 screens per battleship is enough

[heavy vigil]

This is what your naval battles should ideally look like btw

[bright forum]

IDK something like this.

Keep in mind, I barely touch the ship creation thing aside from "I put more torpedos because more damej" and only rarely actually move my boats bases.

[fair horizon]

dont bother with patrolling and select multiple regions with say the home fleet as a strike force

[heavy vigil]

Half of that is correct

You should only design once

[fair horizon]

when you have supremacy from that (patrol only works in the exact region the fleet is in) you'll have naval supremacy to launch invasions

[heavy vigil]

Make these

Put them on strike force

[bright forum]

And how do I make sure my garbage troops don't just die?

[heavy vigil]

Congrats youve learned navy

[bright forum]

I used what I thought was an uber-awesome marines force.

[heavy vigil]

Naval bombers

And good units to land yeah

[fair horizon]

land them on ports

landing on any other tile is doom

you dont have supply and you die

[bright forum]

Standard with 4 Marines, then 2 Amphibious Tanks, then 2 Marine Commandos, and Pioneers, Logistics, Hospital and I think some other stuff.

[heavy vigil]

No?

Landing on the sides of ports helps a lot

[heavy vigil]

Awful

[bright forum]

😭

I THOUGHT I WAS DOING GOOD.

[fair horizon]

too tiny to do any real damage

[bright forum]

BUT THEY JUST COULDN'T TAKE OSLO.

[heavy vigil]

16 width marines

[heavy vigil]

This is a really good marine template that will win you the game

[fair horizon]

is this the optimal width? i usually do 20 width amtracs

[heavy vigil]

35/36 for marines 32.5/33 for mountaineers

[bright forum]

I think I made something basically like this.

[heavy vigil]

Thats bad

Amphibious tanks are the worst tank chassis

The division is too small

[bright forum]

I'm guessing doing this to them didn't help much either.

[fair horizon]

also if you can get cas support for landing do that whenever you can

[bright forum]

That's my tonk.

[heavy vigil]

Its not the worst

But its pretty bad

Its more an issue with amphib tanks

But also your design does suck

Crazy expensive

[bright forum]

I figured "Well, I'm only making a few..."

[fair horizon]

reliability is probably pretty bad

[bright forum]

Yeah I don't know why I didn't show that.

I think like, 65%?

[fair horizon]

oh thats not too bad then

[simple citrus]

yay

[bright forum]

Here's my TONK but with more stats visible.

[simple citrus]

gais check out mai mittolafrika

[fair horizon]

if i were to make it id replace the extra fuel and sloped armor with a secondary cannon and a lmg

dont remember what the PE engine is but its also meh, gasoline works fine

[bright forum]

It's the one that destroys your reliability.

[fair horizon]

also dont forget to select a MIO

[bright forum]

I think I usually just do the Infantry Tank one.

[fair horizon]

You can get extra armor/reliability for more armor clicks

[bright forum]

But what I'm gathering here is: My marines should be biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig.

[fair horizon]

take out china

[fair horizon]

bigger is better

[bright forum]

And put tanks in because tanks are fun? Okay

[simple citrus]

fym take out china

[bright forum]

I tried to add more support equipment to my unit templates instead of just leaving them at base because I think they're generally good, ja?

[fair horizon]

I mean take out china

[simple citrus]

why should i take out china

name 1 reason

[fair horizon]

I dont use them personally since i do amtracs but yeah

[fair horizon]

China

[heavy vigil]

Cant find the singular time i made an amphib tank design

[simple citrus]

no like seriously
why should i take out chine

[heavy vigil]

Light is mostly applicable to amphib

[fair horizon]

Free manpower

[heavy vigil]

You can do petrol electric if you want

[bright forum]

Hey super quickly how NSFW is the NSFW guidelines? I wanna say something rude but not like...really rude.

[simple citrus]

heyyyy soooo

[simple citrus]

errrr

[fair horizon]

Gross

I hate the warlord system

[heavy vigil]

Autobot would get you for bad words anyway

[bright forum]

Aight.

[fair horizon]

And that guy is NOT mewing

[bright forum]

Yeah it got me.

[simple citrus]

i love it just because i can get qing empire back
and i love empires
monarku
yey

[fair horizon]

Do you like the british empire?

[simple citrus]

wooo emopeper

[bright forum]

Just imagine R*dditors dying of pleasure.

That's what I'm saying.

[simple citrus]

i despise british empire

[bright forum]

As a reason to take out China.

[heavy vigil]

Glad you censored the r word

[simple citrus]

what's the r word

[bright forum]

[bright forum]

R*dditor.

[simple citrus]

uh

[fair horizon]

Someone fire them out of a cannon

[simple citrus]

what's so bad abt reddit

??...

i don't use it

[fair horizon]

BRO CENSOR IT 🤮

[simple citrus]

nor have ever contacted with anyone using it

[bright forum]

Stay pure then.

And leave China.

Because it will instead make them have an aneuryism out of rage.

[fair horizon]

All the world belongs to the british empire

[simple citrus]

b-but xuantong...

[bright forum]

You have no choice.

[fair horizon]

https://youtu.be/4EivAZ13ZMQ?si=dbemznWLPWKn2eVC

[simple citrus]

do they hate qing empire or something

[bright forum]

Spare your mind the mental anguish of R*ddit.

[simple citrus]

fine...

[heavy vigil]

Redditors are like stereotype white people

[simple citrus]

let me just core outer manchuria real quick

[fair horizon]

Imagine being china and needing to core china smh

[heavy vigil]

Kr experience

You actually cant core all of it before the game is over (with good play)

Game ends at latest in 1940

[copper cobalt]

O.o vanilla Spain experience

[quaint kettle]

WHY SPAIN WHY#

[copper cobalt]

Omg free land

[bright forum]

That's what you get for playing millennium dawn sorry not sorry.

[heavy vigil]

Spain would be too OP otherwise

[quaint kettle]

novum vexillium

[bright forum]

I withtract my previous statement.

[copper cobalt]

is it bad to be OP :(

[quaint kettle]

you better

[bright forum]

However, if you play Millennium Dawn, please consider my withtraction withtracted with extra insults.

[quaint kettle]

millenium dawn is ass

been ruined

it used to be good

[bright forum]

It's garbage and the mods are too far up their own arse to realise it.

But at least they didn't call me the r-slur (not R*dditor) like the Kaiserreich ones.

[digital aurora]

Huh, the soviet union has claimed this singular state of brazil, and nothing else

[bright forum]

HOW?! HOW DO THEY EVEN GET A CLAIM ON BRAZIL!?

[copper cobalt]

Come to Brazil

[bright forum]

🅱️RAZIL.

Hear me out:

We invade 🅱️razil.

[digital aurora]

They also want Cera for some reason,

[bright forum]

What gives them claims on Brazil?!

[digital aurora]

Im not even the soviets lmao im the German Volksunion

Oh, Oh god, some how the Road to 56 tree is enabled for the soviets, i don't even have Road to 56 on

I somehow broke the soviet tree

[quaint kettle]

KR DID WHAT

bruv how long does it take to get in a boat and sail

[digital aurora]

Oh wait, i have the shorter soviet focus mod still on, that uses the road to 56 tree, and i guess some state ID's are just messed up

[bright forum]

"Hey why do you get this stupid popup that does nothing I want to be able to trigger the Brest-Livosk like is historical if Germany invades."
"Ummm it's more historical google No War No Peace."
"Google Brest-Livosk, let me just do it now."
"Google mental r*tardation."
"How are you a mod?"
/ban

[quaint kettle]

ooooooffff

mad work

[bright forum]

Who'd have thought Paradox games would breed a bunch of self-righteous douchelords?

[quaint kettle]

yh

i mean to call someone a r in the most autistic game is mad work

[bright forum]

Like, I'm in a love-hate relationship with Paradox games. But the fans? Yeah there's a reason they're seen as scum.

[quaint kettle]

yh

[bright forum]

Pretty much. I wasn't even that offended, just baffled at the audacity.

[quaint kettle]

paradox games are good but some fans ruin the entire esperience

basicly what you said

[quaint kettle]

so was i when i read it

i usualy take offense to others being ablelist n shit

[bright forum]

I mean, what they said was offensive.

Especially if you're a mod.

[quaint kettle]

well yeah

[bright forum]

Imagine if one of the mods here just started calling people the r-slur just because someone questioned their infallibility.

[quaint kettle]

yeah

oh btw that ,ajor war

3% world tension

tf

i shouldve puppeted them

fml

[celest dirge]

Which Realism mods (Ultra, BICE, TW) is the best?

[quaint kettle]

idk

my shit pc barely runs fps map

[slim nexus]

what mod is that?

[quaint kettle]

novum vexillium is the modern day mod

fps map is the map

i done the expamding myself

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1827273767

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3382293355

[clear dagger]

FPS Map ❌
For Petes Sake Map ✅

[quaint kettle]

frrr

it doesnt boost fps tho

[valid prairie]

when designing a tank for space marines what aspects are the most important?

[ivory hull]

armor value

[valid prairie]

ok does breakthrough matter at all or just armour

[ivory hull]

it does too

just like soft attack does

in sp you dont need that much armor

anyway

[valid prairie]

ok thx

[chrome cairn]

are there any mods that have content for muslim nations i dont care about the setting that much

[snow rain]

it takes 4 days per division assigned to the order iirc
it's not just getting the eq, it's the whole planification. And you would hate it if it wasn't there because you'd get naval invaded 5 times a day by the ai as germany

[oak kestrel]

What are subversive activities

[snow rain]

spy actions

[oak kestrel]

so if i dont have the dlc i dont need to worry of it

[snow rain]

space marines = you want big atk stats (soft, brk), not armor
armor meme you want armor and then other stats

[toxic cypress]

flattening the mountains

[snow rain]

yeah you don't have to because the only activity that can be done would be ideology boost which the AI is forbidden to do

[oak kestrel]

What "special forces minimum capacity +40" does

[snow rain]

you have a base capacity of 24 special forces bataillions
this means you can't deploy more. it then scales based on total number of non-special bataillion deployed

[oak kestrel]

ohh

[snow rain]

having more base means you can have more SF with less divs overhaul

[oak kestrel]

so like mountaneers and stuff

[snow rain]

but it doesn't grant any "free" SF cap as you need to have more bataillions to get past the base

the calculus still starts at 0, even if you have a base 24 cap. So if you want to go past 24, you'll have to get enough bataillions deployed to be able to deploy more than 24 SF bataillions (if there was no minimum cap)

[oak kestrel]

Would you rather take +5% attack or 0,10 pp daily

[primal garden]

A few years ago there was a fun saudi standalone mod that was nice. Look among the mods if it is updated

[heavy vigil]

Red dusk

[heavy vigil]

+5% attack

[primal garden]

Saudi arabian flavour is the name. Not updated. 🙁

skymods saudi arabia mod was nice too. Latest update 2021. 🙁

try road to 56. They have updated trees on many arabic nations. (I have to check out saudi arabia on that mod) Road to 56 is my favourite mod ingame.

[brisk briar]

is it worth to buy the dlc prescription?

[snow rain]

if you don't plan on sticking on this game for extended periods of time, it's ok
it's also nice to try out DLCs without engagement then select buy those you want to keep

if you come back to the game regularly along the year, don't sub, buy the DLCs at discount during sales

[brisk briar]

i assume it's monthly?

[valid prairie]

how do they have supply

the japanese i mean

[snow rain]

yes

[heavy vigil]

Capital tile of mengkukuo

[valid prairie]

thats stupid bruh

i already capped them

typical hoi4 logic lol

[snow rain]

just keep 4 units on each time to keep them in check and move on

[indigo violet]

Supply hub is a supply hub

[heavy vigil]

As long as they control territory they have a capital

[snow rain]

they're already attritionning, you just have to wait them out

[heavy vigil]

Doesnt matter how much or where

If you could get an RK as germany to cap

You can have capital supply in the uk

When invading

By giving the puppet the territory :D

Works anywhere

Actually wait thats easy

You have AOI

[valid prairie]

bruh

[heavy vigil]

And possibly libya

[heavy vigil]

Dont lose is rule #1 of hoi4

[valid prairie]

this shit is crazy bro

i quit

[heavy vigil]

Why are you playing on high speed while losing

[viral jasper]

so that we can lose quickly

[heavy vigil]

I prefer winning usually

But not always

[viral jasper]

sometimes u need to be quit

or the war goes too long

[heavy vigil]

Oh no not for quitting

Just feel like losing sometimes

For fun

[viral jasper]

how

[heavy vigil]

Like poland exile or free france or just messing around

It can be quite difficult to lose though

[digital tulip]

Historical play for Japan is a losing prop.

For most nations, really.

[subtle elm]

are arty tanks good?

[digital tulip]

The relentlessness of attack in-game is wildly unsustainable. irl, units don't mount attacks at anything less than 80+%, and a day's or more rest between attacks.

[viral jasper]

when ru in the game

[misty fossil]

another peak drop

[ivory hull]

bro how did you achieve that

[valid prairie]

China peaced out leaving one mengjiang tile left with like 20 Japanese dudes on it and they broke out

I think they reinforce memed me actually

[brisk briar]

ugh, hoi 4 keeps crashing

[azure palm]

guys, what is the best division template for prussian doctrine monarchist germany?

[safe wing]

Do you wanna do infantry or tanks

[azure palm]

infantry or artillery or something. Heard that its overpowerd or smth

[heavy vigil]

Not rn

[green moss]

welp

pretty close to winning

the company shall expand into all of India

[rose parcel]

What's up

[green moss]

wassup

Here we go

ggs

[safe wing]

the Mughals were pretty much gone by the time Britian invaded

[azure palm]

Is it weird that my fav DLC is Götterdämmerung or is it normal?

[safe wing]

they only controlled Delhi

[green moss]

true

so I fought them at their prime

[fringe shell]

good job mao

[uneven portal]

the new meta

what doctrine does this go for

[azure palm]

What? How? What is going on in Brazil???

[heavy vigil]

Democracy?

[uneven portal]

they're a bit more communist than usual

is that modded?

[azure palm]

they arent communist at all?

[azure palm]

No

[misty fossil]

no idea

someone else’s playthrough

[azure palm]

great, dragging hungary also down with them

[misty fossil]

Amazing things are happening in Brasil

@heavy vigil how do you say brazil in brazillian

[azure palm]

yeah... we just love facism and the military

[heavy vigil]

Brasil

[misty fossil]

thanks

[fathom glacier]

hello all , im new my names luna 🙂

[heavy vigil]

Hi luna :)

[eternal palm]

Sup Luna

[fathom glacier]

how are you guys doing?

finally found this group always wanted to find other HOI4 player/friends, all of my other friend never play the game

wanted to say if anyone ever wanna play with me you can add me or write PM to me, my doors always open 😄

[misty fossil]

what

is that something you just tell to complete strangers

[fathom glacier]

im always a bit to polite, and no i dont always tell strangers, it was mostly to try to make friends

[safe wing]

I figured out that helping the KMT as Imperial Germany is a good way of getting army and air xp

[steady island]

Hey where can I send reports on people I have two people who sell clients to crash people's hoi games steal info and are extremely offensive torward people have screenshot and usernames

[safe wing]

@grizzled delta

[unique crag]

yall is this good?

[icy crescent]

Sure.

[misty fossil]

politics isnt allowed here

[unique crag]

change your bio then

[misty fossil]

i havent been told to change it

& ive been having it for a while now

[trail nymph]

tf is even going on man

[misty fossil]

mods seem ok with it so shrug

[unique crag]

so? say it in the rules

[misty fossil]

wdym

[unique crag]

...

rule 2

the same thing you started with

[misty fossil]

shrug

[unique crag]

:/

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1426964404032766192/attachment.gif

[unique crag]

cant im broke

[misty fossil]

hi broke im dad

[unique crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-reaction-try-not-to-laugh-bruh-speed-gif-15909423665204532371

[wet plover]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[misty fossil]

Transmission from the British Empire: The British Empire declared war on British Burma

read the tooltip /s

[steady island]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-awkward-awkward-dog-staring-dog-patchibana-gif-2489682387183596147

[trail nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[unique crag]

ive never enjoyed myself in community this much before

[misty fossil]

why are you enjoying yourself

please rephrase that

[safe wing]

holy shit

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/pipe-bomb-so-cool-pipe-bomb-hatsune-miku-gif-3979886170462943769

[safe wing]

the Whites won in 4 months

[misty fossil]

is that a good thing

[unique crag]

i feel happiness seeing the same braindead stuff here that is going on in my head

[safe wing]

for the vanilla AI yes

[misty fossil]

oh

[misty fossil]

takes one to know one

[unique crag]

im not native english what does that mean

[trail nymph]

it means real recognizes real

[misty fossil]

its like

exactly

[unique crag]

oh

[misty fossil]

you have to be something to recognise other people go through the same thing

[unique crag]

yeah agree more

is 129h on hoi4 good

[misty fossil]

just dont waste too much time on this game

get a job and talk to women or whatever

[unique crag]

i got two weeks of endless freetime ahead of me

and i get no women

[sudden thistle]

Only 🥀

[unique crag]

my goal is 1000 before i get employed

[safe wing]

Vladmir III is back before 1939

[heavy vigil]

Thats usually around the time people figure out how to make factories and move divisions around yeah

[devout trench]

i knew how to move divisons and make factories at 50 hour mark

i just didnt know what to do with the divisions i move or the factories i make

used to micro every troop on a front 😭

[devout trench]

i have learned more from eu4 than i have any history class

[safe wing]

same

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[safe wing]

hey

[tepid shuttle]

guys, how do i fix the "mod is missing descriptor file" when trying to play a mod? i've reinstalled great war redux and kaiserredux 3 times and it's still showing the same error

[gleaming acorn]

guinely tho does anyone actually learn anything from history in school

most of it is rubbish

[snow rain]

depends on the country/state ig

[devout trench]

my state spends like

[snow rain]

because I learned a lot of stuff there

[gleaming acorn]

aye depends

sometimes

[devout trench]

1-5th in ancient history, then 6-8th in american revolution, then 9-12th is like 1400s-1900s

[gleaming acorn]

they teach you the most boring and irrlervent things tho

[sudden thistle]

Not that much

[devout trench]

paradox has a game for every history class you can possibly take

[sudden thistle]

But definitely enough to keep my interest

It matters on the teacher ngl

[devout trench]

ck3, victoria 3, hoi4, eu4, etc

[sudden thistle]

My 6th grade history teacher made the whole class a game with teams

[devout trench]

city skylines if your a civil engineer

[coarse willow]

any ideas how to get leningrad

😭

[sudden thistle]

Take it and don’t siege it

[coarse willow]

is there anything i can acc do

[devout trench]

just ignore that 1 apartment building

trust it works

[tepid shuttle]

? its really important plz

[coarse willow]

itll be atleast another year until my tanks are ready

[sudden thistle]

1 build a port near Leningrad for you

And naval invade Estonia

[coarse willow]

fam my navy will get shit on

im still building up my airforce and tanks

and finland AI isnt really helping

[sudden thistle]

Try it for a quick second to see if you have supremacy

[coarse willow]

bro

the soviets are naval invading helsinki

and the finnish ai isnt even guarding it

[tepid shuttle]

please guys i wanna play gwr

[sudden thistle]

Verify files

[coarse willow]

i dont

[sudden thistle]

AI does that

Wait till barb fr

[coarse willow]

is there any saving this

[tepid shuttle]

bro.........

[sudden thistle]

Uhhhh

[tepid shuttle]

wrap it up 💔

[coarse willow]

should i

1. retreat from attacking leningrad and push out soviets for the west
2. focus on getting leningrad and winning the war

[azure palm]

I don't know what to say...

[tepid shuttle]

first option

cuz ur gonna get encircled if u dont defend

[coarse willow]

fair

il do that

[tepid shuttle]

and sovs dont cap when u take leningrad

[coarse willow]

for me they will

[sudden thistle]

It’s a coded peace

[keen terrace]

I got the wrong hugo boss

[coarse willow]

OMG

I SOMEHOW DEFENDED HELSINKI IN TIME

this aint looking good but it looking better

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[valid prairie]

it feels like ive played every interesting nation, any recommendations

[cedar lance]

is it possible to set the building slots limit to infinite/endless?

[coarse willow]

i quit this run

they naval invading stockholm

[sudden thistle]

Do a Shanxi game

[valid prairie]

yknow what, that does remind me of it. i did a shanxi run a few days ago but i havent finished it

thank you

any more nations like that u can recommend?

[tepid shuttle]

Still not working

[sudden thistle]

Rip

[sudden thistle]

Definitely knew that

Uhh

Expansionist Denmark was fun

If u do the decisions correctly you can core Baltics and all of scandi

Around 15-18 mil core pop

[valid prairie]

hell yeah

although im not a naval player

[sudden thistle]

Naval isn’t needed

Once u get into Norway it’s easy

I recommend doing alt hist on it too

[cedar lance]

i need a answer

[snow rain]

stop attritionning in your own country

[coarse willow]

aint mine

[icy crescent]

I mean... you could press the decision to get more building slots.
Otherwise use mods.

[cedar lance]

alr

[icy crescent]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902284355

This can be a compromise.

Because for most normal and unnormal games, 50 slots pre state is enough.

[snow rain]

fixing the attrition issue is the abre minimum to do, still

[coarse willow]

fair

i lost anyways 😭

[misty fossil]

100pp for a single building slot

[icy crescent]

Or 50 and lose some stability.

[cedar lance]

or how about i just add atleast 9999 building slots

[sonic sand]

in a place you don't even

choose

[sweet bone]

what is this country

[sonic sand]

clearly

its mexican estonia

[devout trench]

It’s the rightful Estonia

The so called real Estonia is a fake

[sonic sand]

rate the template

[patent thistle]

💀 what the hell were the fallout owb devs snuffing-

[sonic sand]

old world blues is weird

but like

no one has planes

[patent thistle]

thats the damage of just 50-

[sonic sand]

good or bad

idk old world blues

it could be good in the mod and bad outside of it

[patent thistle]

thats the best attackers you can get in owb

[sonic sand]

yes

i understand

but some mods have buffed stats

or debuffed stats

for example

great war redux

@patent thistle

[patent thistle]

i know that

[unique crag]

good for seelow heights mod?

[sweet bone]

no more alt history for me

[valid prairie]

i did it!

no i didnt lol

[small igloo]

Poor

[rigid lion]

anyone here willing to teach a noob by like actually playing with them(im the noob)

[sonic sand]

yes im playing hungary

[normal galleon]

Guys I'm playing communist usa, is there a way to turn back to democratic so I can get arsenal of democracy?

[sonic sand]

it works enough for yugoslavia, axis, romania and bulgaria

[sonic sand]

i think

[normal galleon]

I have a democratic advisor and I'm getting events

[sonic sand]

through advisor

[normal galleon]

I'm hoping I can trigger a civil war

[sonic sand]

idk tho

[safe wing]

Russia has lost Volgograd, St Petersburg, and Moscow and they still aren’t capping

They went monarchist btw

And I have a collab government

Problem is they are allied with Japan and Japanese puppeted China

[normal galleon]

non aligned china in the comintern B)

[safe wing]

Stalin recognized the KMT as the legitimate government of china in the 1930s btw which pissed off a-lot of communists worldwide

[normal galleon]

I've never seen this happen

then again I don't play much vanilla anymore

[candid forge]

What should I pick

[soft tendon]

oh god

[slim nexus]

The one where you get manpower

[slim nexus]

Which mod is this ?

[soft tendon]

Novum Vexilum

[slim nexus]

Thanks

[sharp reef]

does anyone know when this game will be on sale

[slim nexus]

When is sale ?

[timid brook]

henlos

what achievement should i try and get .w.

[sonic sand]

oh

unless you're communist

[candid forge]

Siberia as Tuva

[timid brook]

cant be worse then Bad Romance

[sonic sand]

great hunger

antischluss

antischluss is fun

[unique crag]

antischluss?

ohh

thats hard

[ivory hull]

its not even that hard

you just need luck

[sonic sand]

its just

go austria, austrian empire path

and lock in

[ivory hull]

yea

cause if you have czechia

germany shouldnt be a problem

[sonic sand]

i mean

Czechia is busted in every run

hungary\

if you control Czechia

germany can't do anything

they can't push you

because all of it is level 7 forts

and mountains

[ivory hull]

and vanilla ai cant do anything against forts

[sonic sand]

theres one spot

where there are no forts

[ivory hull]

doesnt matter

[sonic sand]

but if you build level 5s there

they just grind on your frontlines forever

most of the time they dont even bother to attack

and if you have even just a half decent template (heres mine that i use in SP runs)

[ivory hull]

horrible div

bro

wtf

[sonic sand]

ik ik

im not a division wizard

[ivory hull]

18w with shovels

[sonic sand]

i have like

[ivory hull]

and support arty

[sonic sand]

150 hours man

[ivory hull]

like bro

come on

line arty?

in this economy?

[sonic sand]

as hungary you don't have anything for cas.

[ivory hull]

like at least use tanks to push

[sonic sand]

no industry for tanks

[ivory hull]

but you feel the need to pump out arti

[ivory hull]

i had tanks as austria

against germany

[sonic sand]

thing about hungary

[ivory hull]

dont play hungary bro

[sonic sand]

is everyone becomes a dominion

[sonic sand]

i like the challenge

[ivory hull]

then dont use bad division templates

[safe wing]

How is my casualty rate of 1 million germans for 8 million Russians Chinese and Japanese in current imperial run

[sonic sand]

they're not bad they do the job just fine

[ivory hull]

no they are bad

[hollow anvil]

Why do I still loose division experience when changing templates? Like switching template, both have the same amount of manpower

[ivory hull]

you have to switch them in the designer for them to not lose veterancy

[safe wing]

My templates I’m using are 10/8 mediums and 9/0 infantry

And they are shredding

[hollow anvil]

Ohh thanks :3 didn't know that

[ivory hull]

are you using motorized or cavalry in your tanks?

[safe wing]

Mechanized

[ivory hull]

✌️

[sonic sand]

how? i have the defense i need, they have org they're 25 width, they have the soft attack to deal with really anything thrown their way, a little bit of piercing and they're not too industry intensive

[ivory hull]

ok

lemme tell you

[safe wing]

Line arty is bad

[ivory hull]

instead of wasting production on arty

[safe wing]

Like really bad

[ivory hull]

use it on guns

because arty

is an absolute waste

as its worse then infantry

[safe wing]

I only have 3 mills out 150+ on arty atm

[ivory hull]

in comparison

with line arty

you lose more equipment

[safe wing]

I have a ton on guns and tanks

[ivory hull]

as they give less hp and org then inf

and less hp means more losses

and especially with minors like hungary

[sonic sand]

the division has 206 hp

[ivory hull]

you cant be wasting production like that

[safe wing]

I went grand battleplan R because everyone is spying on me

[ivory hull]

ok?

[ivory hull]

bro left is always better

[sonic sand]

its reliability is 87

[ivory hull]

doesnt even matter but ok

[safe wing]

True but spies

[ivory hull]

just do agency

full upgrades

[safe wing]

I have

[ivory hull]

and your good

[sonic sand]

listen it works for my runs.

[ivory hull]

because it will work

[safe wing]

It doesn’t in mine

[ivory hull]

its just a lot worse then 18w inf

[safe wing]

Line arty that is

[sonic sand]

i just go overwhelming fire right right

[ivory hull]

ai will always loose to a somewhat competent player

[sonic sand]

and battleplan

[safe wing]

I go grand battle plan if I have industry

[sonic sand]

ive tried tanks of all kinds and none seem to work the way i want them to

[safe wing]

If I don’t Mass assault

[ivory hull]

i always go grand battle plan

[sonic sand]

i probably just design bad tanks

but like

too lazy to learn how to make good ones

[ivory hull]

if you got time rn i could show you how do get some good ones

[sonic sand]

i do not have time rn

[safe wing]

Crazy that Tsarist Russia is in the greater east asian co prosperity sphere in my game

[ivory hull]

then just look good templates and designs up

[sonic sand]

ive done that

but whenever i try it

never works

[ivory hull]

your doing something wrong then bro

[sonic sand]

i know

[safe wing]

22/0 infantry 32.4 width mountaineers and 10/8 tank mechanized being my favorites

[sonic sand]

im doing something wrong

[ivory hull]

i barely use mountaineers lwk

cause tanks just work better for me

[safe wing]

I do and they are fantastic as depending on the situation

[sonic sand]

its just like in my position its what has consistantly worked the best

and im happy ive made my first functional division template...

[ivory hull]

how about you make your first good division template?

[sonic sand]

hey i still got a lot of learning to do

[safe wing]

Italy for example is fantastic at mountaineers

[ivory hull]

true

but i dont play italy

[safe wing]

I do and they came in handy overrunning Turkey and Romania

As well as Greece

[ivory hull]

i had like a crazy good italy runs a few versions back

in 1948

[sonic sand]

honestly superior firepower is a busted for line arty

[ivory hull]

but then

communist bulgaria blocked me from forming rome

[safe wing]

Its the worst doctrine

[safe wing]

Because they had Thrace?

[heavy vigil]

mw

[ivory hull]

yea, they were in the axis

[ivory hull]

nahh

[safe wing]

MW and SFP are both garbage

[ivory hull]

mw is better then sfp if your build is very tank centred

still doesnt touch gbp ofc

[heavy vigil]

no

its trash for tanks

only gives org

[ivory hull]

but germany has good theorist

so good

[heavy vigil]

trash

[safe wing]

I went Grandbattle plan with the mw focus’s in my kaiserin run

[ivory hull]

thats why world ablaze has better doctrines

[safe wing]

Russia has lost 1/3 of their army and Japan and China are filling in the gaps

[sonic sand]

idk

its just like

for arty some of the buffs are really good

[ivory hull]

line arty

is ass

like horrible

worst

and the doctrine

[sonic sand]

like 50% buff to support companies soft attack

[ivory hull]

is horrible too

[safe wing]

Support artillery is good

[ivory hull]

true

but line arty

💩

✌️

[sonic sand]

alright ig my template sucks then.

thanks!

[safe wing]

Mine sucked too when I first started playing

Like I used 7/2s in 2019

[sonic sand]

hey all im happy about is that it works well enough to where i can beat yugoslavia alone

[ivory hull]

back when 30w was good

[sonic sand]

better than italy

[ivory hull]

bro just use 18w

[safe wing]

Or you can use 32.4 mountaineers

Which work wonders in Yugoslavia

As the country is very mountainous

[sonic sand]

you are throwing terms at me that i do not understand!

well i do

but like

[safe wing]

He is talking about 9 infantry battalions with support arty aa and shovels

[sonic sand]

ye

ok

im growing as a player fine so

[safe wing]

And I think with a fully fleshed out mountaineer doctrine 14/0s for 32.4

[safe wing]

And thats what matters

[sonic sand]

although

i have no idea how some hoi4 players can't comprehend some things

like naval invasions

[ivory hull]

bro you are using 25w and have 150 hours

[sonic sand]

although i do remember my first runs i didn't know there were other tech trees haha

[ivory hull]

you arent in the position to speak rn

[safe wing]

I will have hospitals and medium flame tanks in the templates as support companies

[sonic sand]

at least i can play the game

and win wars

some people go 150 hours and can't beat the BeNeLux

as germany

[safe wing]

I think I have 300+ breakthrough in my last mountaineer template as Italy

[sonic sand]

or not know how to naval invade

or any orders for that matter

i remember

not knowing how to battleplan

and using area defense for attack instead

[marsh ravine]

Never was

[safe wing]

As Italy mountaineers are good because all your neighbors have mountains

[ivory hull]

for tommykay it still is

[sonic sand]

i wish they made frontlines better and less confusing though, I hate when the frontline changes because you capture territory

[marsh ravine]

And Tommykay ain't good😭

[safe wing]

Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia and the French borders all have mountains

[sonic sand]

treason

[safe wing]

Also Greece and Turkey have mountains

[ivory hull]

he isnt bad

[sonic sand]

also #off-topic is a channel

[safe wing]

Like lots of them

[marsh ravine]

Yes he is

He isnt HORRENDOUS

But like he is bad

[ivory hull]

his builds are often questionable

[marsh ravine]

So bad

[ivory hull]

he cant let go of the 30w's

[deep solstice]

oh yeah

[marsh ravine]

Like from what I've seen he just refuses to learn

[deep solstice]

forgot

[ivory hull]

and he dispises metas

[safe wing]

French North Africa has mountains too but Egypt doesnt

[marsh ravine]

Which imo very much decides that u r bad

[sonic sand]

no prob

[deep solstice]

🤫

[ivory hull]

no it doesnt, he just likes to play hoi4 in a traditional and not exploity way

[marsh ravine]

He just hit unc status and gave up on learning imo

[ivory hull]

which i resepect

[marsh ravine]

Meta and exploits r not the same

[safe wing]

So mountaineers are mandatory as Italy

[ivory hull]

bro he literally is the unc of hoi4

[safe wing]

IMO at least

[ivory hull]

they go hand in hand most of the time

[marsh ravine]

Nah

Unless u consider csc an exploit then its not

If you look at actual meta players

[ivory hull]

whats csc?

[green moss]

🥹

[marsh ravine]

Constant state conversion

For planes and tanks

[safe wing]

Anyways back to work and I will finish plan Z as the Kaiserin when I get home too

[marsh ravine]

So u make a base tank and produce that and ur final tank/plane design

[ivory hull]

ohh nah thats not an exploit, more like a cheese strat

[marsh ravine]

Then conv the base to final

[marsh ravine]

Then meta just isnt exploity imo

[green moss]

Divine mission

[ivory hull]

yea its still cheesy

maybe not exploit

but hella cheesy

[safe wing]

I’m going to need more dockyards though

[marsh ravine]

Ive seen people who call exploits meta n shit but imo thats just tryna make it seem less bad/give different name

[safe wing]

Safavids

They often fought the Mughals in Afghanistan

[willow delta]

did a 360 on japan

[sonic sand]

there should be an achievement for puppeting the netherlands as the dutch east indies

[green moss]

that's Empire Into the Orient mod

[safe wing]

It take place in the 1600s I take it

[azure palm]

dont let the devs hear that

[green moss]

well

1700s

[marsh ravine]

Like for example I talk with actual meta players (won the last tournaments for like last 2 yrs? For reference of skill) and they r all against like exploits n shit

Furthest they go is csc

[sonic sand]

pain and suffering timeeee

[safe wing]

Close to what I thought

I thought it was like 1690s

[azure palm]

we all love it... definitly

[green moss]

we got pirates though

[sonic sand]

yes enjoy!

[safe wing]

Also the Mughals and Persians are disgustingly overpowered in eu4

[sonic sand]

there should also be a united earth formable nation

[safe wing]

Like the Mughals are generally one of the best nations for a world conquest in that game alongside Oriat and Austria

[azure palm]

isnt that called the global security council or something?

[sonic sand]

i don't think it exists

[safe wing]

It does for anarchist Spain

[sonic sand]

you're joking

[green moss]

does it give you a reason to love this mod

[safe wing]

I’m not

[green moss]

it indeed exists tbh

[sonic sand]

good lord

[azure palm]

Hes telling the truth

[safe wing]

Seeing as they have love put into them yes

Given how I always played Persia in EU4 alongside Byzantium

[sonic sand]

yeah ok

but

[azure palm]

And you need to achieve that only with wars and most times with 0 stability

[green moss]

I forgot to tell you the biggest reason to love this mod

[sonic sand]

so peak

[safe wing]

I see that the USA is trying to breakaway

In the last screenshot

[azure palm]

Im already struggling with the god damn Spain Civil war. Its just a skill issue at this point

[sonic sand]

but like fr

there should be a united world formable

[safe wing]

Is Vermont playable by any chance

[sonic sand]

for every nation

[azure palm]

would be cool

[green moss]

Holy Roman Empire (you actually have to do politics and diplomacy to form it)

[safe wing]

Because Vermont was a country from 1776-1793 I believe

And I live in Vermont

[green moss]

dunno

[ivory hull]

the us has kinda skeleton content in that mod either way sadly

[safe wing]

Damn

Would be cool for Vermont to become a regional player

[ivory hull]

the content is there but its not very in depth

[safe wing]

And conquer Quebec, new England and such

[ivory hull]

the content of the mod focuses around europe and kinda the ottomans and partly asia

[safe wing]

Given how Vermont and Quebec were part of the same colony until the 1720s I believe

[safe wing]

Cool to hear

[green moss]

tbh mod lacks content so much that I modify game files to manually finish it

[safe wing]

Ottomans are very lackluster in vanilla

[sonic sand]

fascism its called "the global Reich" for communism its "The union of earth" for democracy its "The United peoples of earth" and for nonaligned its "The kingdom of earth"

[ivory hull]

you can form the mongol empire as the ottomans in that mod

[safe wing]

Global reich should be german only

[ivory hull]

but iirc it was kinda broken

[sonic sand]

yes

[azure palm]

yeah but reich is a german word and it wouldnt make much sense for any nation except like austria, germany or switzerland

[sonic sand]

Reichcommisariat

[safe wing]

It should be national union of Earth or something

[sonic sand]

is for all facist nations

[green moss]

The Union of Earth? Nah, how about "Solar Union"

[sonic sand]

thats for stellaris

[green moss]

true

[azure palm]

yeah but thats kinda weird, but for japan and manchuria its imperial protectorate I think

[left grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564199553818034187/1427335805843537941/FINLANDFILES.gif

[safe wing]

Only 1 moon at the top of my head is worth colonizing

Titan

[sonic sand]

yeah because those 2 are the only fascist countries that naturally get puppets in the game

[azure palm]

I can tell you, there would be an event for some nation on neptune or something that is senior hilter arrived

[azure palm]

what do you mean naturally though?

[sonic sand]

Germany sets up Reichskommissariats, and Japan starts with an imperial mandate and may gain another one in china later down the line

italy annexes albania

[azure palm]

italy puppets yugoslavia

sometimes

[sonic sand]

fights ethiopia, greece, yugoslavia

[azure palm]

I hate the concept of supervised states.

[sonic sand]

i hate the popups

[azure palm]

Supervised states are worse, you cant even annex them

[sonic sand]

damn

[atomic spoke]

help

[hazy charm]

did I make wrong country win?

[safe wing]

How the hell!?

[safe wing]

Who you playing as?

[hazy charm]

Germany

[safe wing]

Which path?

[hazy charm]

historic one I guess

I just unlock random stuff

[safe wing]

TBH it doesn’t matter

Spain is extremely weak after the civil war regardless of what path

[azure palm]

Im becoming more and more racist every minute I play... not good

[safe wing]

As long as you get army and air xp than you are all set

[hazy charm]

I have air and navy just training

[safe wing]

You should be good as long as you don’t use line artillery battalions or mobile warfare or superior firepower as your doctrine

[hazy charm]

I mean I am just doing random stuff because I kinda never played before

[safe wing]

Fair

[sonic sand]

man i love that poland has a +50 relations buff with Hungary specifically
"Poles and Hungarians Fighting then drinking in the end"

[safe wing]

I’m doing the Kaiser path atm

[hazy charm]

hopefully I won't loose to poland like last time xD

[tepid crown]

If you wanted the fascists, yes

[safe wing]

As imperial Germany the nationalists or republicans winning doesn’t matter tbh as you can’t send volunteers unless world tension is 40%

[hazy charm]

what trait should I get for daimler benz xD

[safe wing]

The one on the far right

[hazy charm]

thanks

is this worth it (yes I am too lazy to write it all)

[sonic sand]

not mutually exclusive

usually the benifits outweigh the losses

[sudden thistle]

what mod is this

[sonic sand]

if it is mutually exclusive

well

[green moss]

Empire Into the Orient

[sonic sand]

its up to you

[hazy charm]

so heed one is better>

?

[sonic sand]

well

i don't play germany

some focuses

are

[ivory hull]

reorganize is better

[hazy charm]

oh well I saved it before choosing so if I f up I can just load back in

[remote quarry]

yes

as long as you do anschluss immediately after

so you have war support for war economy

[azure palm]

Okay what the actual f

WHY ARE THEY SO FACIST???

[sonic sand]

glory to communism

[azure palm]

glory to stalinism

[sonic sand]

japan has

a few national spirits

that give facism support

@ripe slate

[azure palm]

The mods are gonna have a field day with this one

@heavy vigil

[sonic sand]

i am going to ping discord moderation ping

[azure palm]

<@&846894118219022336>

[sonic sand]

nevermind

[wanton whale]

Peak AI generation

[wanton whale]

gng why does everyone ping the one person on DO NOT DISTURB

They don't get the damn ping

[sonic sand]

all channels mods!

[azure palm]

im an idiot and thought that its green.

[wanton whale]

Fair

[azure palm]

well, im dumb

[soft tendon]

hwat

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-called-aura-bruh-smell-stench-unfettered-ass-gif-12449823681038660625

[safe wing]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2724925562&searchtext=

Why does this mod exist

Why is William Afton Hitler?!

[wanton whale]

Best mod ever, the hell you talking about?

[safe wing]

Agreed

[azure palm]

lore acurate

[sonic sand]

man i love when a clear scam is posted in every channel of my favorite hearts of iron 4 discord and the mods do nothing about it

[safe wing]

Henry Emily, Samuel Emily, and Charlie Emily should have been Wilhelm II, Wilhelm III and Victoria III

[azure palm]

its a canon event, either the mods have the speed of light, or just dont come at all

[wanton whale]

Then when I post a meme with a basketball going into a hoop I get a warning and a timeout :D

[azure palm]

never mind, its gone

[wanton whale]

Still haven't heard back from paradox about why that was offensive

[azure palm]

what was offensive?

[wanton whale]

Yeah so apparently this is NSFW

[safe wing]

@wanton whale might make my own version of the Afton mod with these changes

[azure palm]

why?

[wanton whale]

Hell yeah

[wanton whale]

Idk ask paradox moderation :D

[safe wing]

I’m gonna need an artist to draw them in the correct uniforms

[wanton whale]

Here's a cookie, go find one or bribe your way into learning it 🍪

[safe wing]

Should Cassidy be Mackensen

Is the real question

[wanton whale]

HELL YEAHHHHHHHH

[heavy vigil]

hi :3

[safe wing]

The other 4 missing kids are going to be the other 4 field marshals as Imperial (Kluge, Rundsted, Bloomberg, and Rupperct then)

[wanton whale]

You should throw in an easter egg character

Like somebody not at all related to fnaf

[safe wing]

Charlie emily is the easter egg leader though

As she is going to be Victoria

[wanton whale]

fair fair

Viktoria my beloved

(She openly supported the Nazi Party and their ideology till the end)
((Still peak though))

[azure palm]

I have a alt account with the name josef stalin and im not allowed to write in this discord because of the name

[wanton whale]

LMAO

Then you have people calling themselves the most unhinged stuff ever

[safe wing]

My second discord account which I deleted because I needed a break I had Rodzaevsky as my pfp after NSB was released

[wanton whale]

rearm since you already went mefo bills

[wanton whale]

There are people in this server with swastikas as their banner or in their profile or hell even adolf hitler and the mods do nothing but the second somebody posts an image with a single swastika to show smth in-game they pounce on you

[safe wing]

Does anyone know what happened to Rodzaevsky irl because I do

[safe wing]

Ew mine was just the ingame portriat

[wanton whale]

Yeah....

[safe wing]

Such a lame path too

[wanton whale]

Lemme google rq

[safe wing]

He got lured out by the NKVD because they offered him amnesty

[wanton whale]

Immunity yeah

[heavy vigil]

no nazi flags/imagery please.

[wanton whale]

then killed

[safe wing]

And they arrested and killed him a year later

Its embarrassing

[safe wing]

Shows how dumb he was

[wanton whale]

😭