#hoi4-general
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Might just be me but I found roman history extremely boring
they had lots of economic stagnation during Brezhnev's administration
It just seems like the same 5 things happening all the time for hundreds of years
Its interesting to note that two major Roman splinter states broke off from the empire during the crisis
The Gallic and Palmayrne Empire
hmmm roman history isnt as much my thing
they managed to reassert control if i remember correctly
what are we thinking of the japan dev diary
Their was a massive pandemic, countless usurpers and invasions
An improvement
theyre adding more content for japan?
Hyper inflation civil disorder
I wanna try playing as Japan but I can't even win as Italy
Can you win as germany?
China was having the 3 Kingdoms era
I don't wanna play as Germany it looks lame and boring
And Persia was having a dynastic crisis
germany is overpowered
its like youre playing on cheat codes
Play them differently
its a great way of getting to learn the game
True
you have a massive edge over everyone else
i generally also recommend adding yourself console bonuses to learn the game
I did a game as Germany with non historical Ai and I just steamrolled half of Europe by 1941, quit right after out of boredom
Didn't even attempt barbarossa
Play Monarchist Germany
so you can steamroll europe
what difficulty?
thats already an improvement
Like the second or third
Soviets are great for learning defense
yeah
the soviets get an insane number of divisions
defence is also a crucial skill
Had a blast doing Romanovs last laugh
The problem is not the fighting, the problem when I play Italy is that I have to defend the whole European coast while I carry Germany in Russia and also hold off Africa and secure the Mediterranean
I have like 4 fronts to fight at once
yeah if youre playing italy either instantly naval invade the uk or secure the mediterranean
Okay question 1 what are trying to do as Italy
Greater Italy or Rome
Win the war
youre a beginner and thus likely suck at navy, so naval superiority is out of question
Nah I'm fairly decent at navy
ok nice
I don't understand people saying it's hard
nobody bothers
i dearly hope 1.17 will rework navy into making it an enjoyable experience
my hopes are up
It isn’t hard it’s just spam light cruisers and meat shield destroyers, and Carriers
What I struggle is airforce, my country can't keep up a good economy building planes
i never understood why people think carriers are good
As Germany and the USSR true
They are when you have hundreds and hundreds of planes
irl theyre good for projecting force
Yeah lmao I once invaded Cyprus and I caught like
3 carriers and a battleships
Cuz their screening was so demolished by being isolated
This is still so embarrassing 😭
I had accidentally sent my fleet to go ALL AROUND AFRICA
WITHOUT SCREENS
what is screens
destroyers and light cruisers
destroyers and light cruisers
basically the meatshield of your flotilla
they protect your capital ships
got yall on some hivemind shit
do carriers count as capitals?
ye
What's the difference between heavy cruiser and battlecruiser
dont they have their own section in naval battles
Yeah but they're still capitals
i cannot wait for the navy to be reworked
oh mb
so dumbasses like me can actually understand whats going on
irl battlecruisers have the armament of a battleship but not the armour and are faster
im really not sure though
back in the day i used to think subs were screens
and screen boosts thus added to subs
😭
subs are good for convoy raiding
no way
I mean I use battle cruisers and their damage is peak but they die so damn easily so
Checks out
shocker
do any of you ever build patrol cruisers
yeah that makes sense
I literally cannot afford to put more than like 5 or 7 factories on planes until mid WW2
so your subs can easier detect ships/convoys to raid
a good airforce is very expensive
u need a lot of factories
but cas is so worth it
paradox needs to make bombers worth it
like tactical and strategic bombers?
the fighter-cas meta has literally consumed all other aircraft
yeah
i think japan is done
😭
only time i use tacs is as germany cuz i use the starting ones for cas even tho they all die the first year if im still at war by then
in the first days of by blood alone it seemed like bombers would be the new meta
but apparently cas was better
A country worth of steel sunk like nothing
that day i sank a whole continent
this reminds me of how long its been since bba released
😭
like bro, 3 years already?
whats beyond blood alone for?
huh
ik its a dlc
by blood alone included focus trees for italy, ethiopia and switzerland
and all mesafint states
Ive used them
mesafint?
Not in serious games
me when i lie
like aussa
But i use them sometimes
i have too
Theyre not that bad
and all other states in ethiopia
"serious games"
aaand the air designer
aaand the embargo button which nobody uses
I still gotta understand what templates I should use
i wasnt kidding
the bba update added better peace deals though
Like for infantry i see people saying that artillery is a must and some saying that if I put artillery I should just kms
support arty is imperative
line arty is debatable
cooked
💔
move anti air to support
line anti air is dogshit
@orchid lily what doctrine you using
Either grand battle plan or superior firepower
no but like right now
in your current playthrough
if superior firepower, keep the line arty
Superior firepower
trash
if grand battleplan, remove it
14-15-16w meta inf
Both battalions?
yes
NO
DELETE ARTY
remove the 2 line arty
it can produce crazy soft attack, but only with the right doctrine
its especially op in china, where soft attack is a large player
gdp is better anyways imo
arty bat is trash
yeah
can u explain?
theyre using superior firepower
its better early one like that
3/4 of their boosts go to artillery
and +30 soft atack
and soft attack
-30 orgs
literally sfp is centered around artillery
bruh
chinese units are by default only armed with rifles
no engineers, no arty
when playing as china
China pushed by cas
literally if you have 2 battalions of line arty and 1 support arty as japan, china is child's play
Are the support companies arl?
no
Yeah
bro
im curious to hear your counter argument
so arty gives so attack but kills org?
arty batt is trash
Sfp actually runs line artillery worse than any other doctrine
yeah
it does?
Yes but it doesnt
Mass mob has reduced width making it more viable, and also more hp
Gbp just gives it more stats when attacking so the crits of line artillery are somewhat ok
Mass mob left side or right side? Which is better?
Sfp only is better than the support side if you have NINE (9) or more line artillery pieces per division
And is just better with smaller units, with a lot of support batallions
Line artillery is 3 width and rapidly makes your division very large
Also the first 10% soft attack node does NOT apply to line artillery if you hover over it and read it
right
right side is usually always better
The one with guerilla warfare gotcva
what are the 4 doctrines again?
What makes the support company so much better than the regular companies? I don't really understand how the supports companies work
mobile warfare, supeior firepower, gdp, mass mob right?
Yes
They get +50% soft attack
yeah
what is sfp?
Superior firepower
oh
Its the second doctrine lfrom the left
all g bro
jap pushing china with cas
cas is so good
yes
What other support companies should I have other than artillery?
yeah china has like no industry in 1936
yes
Something like this is good for SFP
Last can be shovel too
Reinforces well, is small
300 SOFT ATTACK??
and only 12w
Is the flamethrower tank essential?
no
flamethrower tank in inf if you`re have industry
it is with all technologies arty
Ohhh
So in the beginning it's weaker alr
You should have it if you have it available
Less in battle
But won't this die too easily if it gets attacked?
Less stats
Thats why youd prefer to use the doctrine as line china
Like**
But it should be fine
shouldve added anti air and anti tank for quintuple artilleries
bro
anti tank is trash
light tank destroyer is meta
never said its good bruh
armor-piercing capability, and lower cost
but 2w
how da hell is a full on tank cheaper than a support anti tank batallion
bro
you are don`t understand hoi4
you speak english because its the only language you know, he speaks english because its the only language YOU know
this
I'm not even a native english speaker you dookie
I am speaking on english for 1 years bro
almost as if it was a joke
how cooked is this
wait so a tank battalion is cheaper than a support anti tank battalion
apparently?
ask this dude
support Anti Tank is literally only 12 arty guns, much cheaper than 20? (I think thats the size of a regular tank batallion) tanks
3.65
bro
it is piercing with tank destroyer light
and no
with support anti-tank
cost 1 antitank is 4
@zinc light ??
Tank Destroyers require 30 light tanks per batallion, so thats a cost of 109.5 prod
support anti tank requires 24 units, so thats 96 prod
also the 3.65 you mentioned is CONVERSION cost, not new production cost. that's the one on the left, so 4.93, which makes it even more expensive
no
3.65 itsn`t conversion bro
4.93 it is conversion
bro
how da hell is it gonna be more expensive to convert a tank into something else rather than making a full on new tank
you are not understand russian seems it
you not making sense anymore
you yoda are
sorry for not speaking your native tongue
I bet you dont speak mine either, so that's that
Dude, I'm speaking to you in your English language, the one you write in; I didn't start writing to you in my native language just because you don't understand it.
yeah I write in it because it's the only language you're supposed to speak on this server
what does a claim do on a state except reduced justify wargoal time
cheaper to take in peace deals
So you started telling me something from the very beginning
what point are you trying to make here
and it isn`t cost conversion
are you bulgarian by chance?
cost in division template +100 but piercing +20
No, I`m from russian
the username seemed bulgarian/macedonian so thats why I thought
With 2 helo velocity gun + 50 piercing
cuz they dont use many symbol like letters
My username on english is whosim
16-14
14-16 is meta
ok bro
Dawg I was doing the Qing path and it was so slow
how can I cap afghanistan fast as Iran
I am only playing vanilla and historical mods
Fair
I am don`t understand mods kaiserreich, kaiserredux
Hiiiii chris!!
On russian events similiar:
1b
1b
or
1b
I’m so tempted to just leave the game until the dlc comes out but then I’ll forget how to play it 😭
On kaiserredux, kaiserreich
the last time I invaded them it took like a your cuz I needed to build a new supply hub, infrastructure, airbase, buy trucks and trains from the russians and still had difficulty with 27 divisions against 18
I am don`t see
The top languages for localisation is Chinese and Russian 😭
Literally 90% of the player base atp
xD
Unironically I use hoi4 to learn English names of countries 😭
You guys get localization mods?
most mods have them
Where are you from?
you forgot zthe zgermans
China
i know a russian mp server somewhere
Ohhhh
lemme find it
Apparently
Chinese is very hard language
Idk I have a weird bug with mods rn
Where like
Their name goes Chinese randomly
Even if the game is in English
And they’re only English
But it’s only in the launcher
Average launcher bug
dms real quick. i found a russian hoi4 server if you want it?
i couldnt find the other big one
I like the Russians tbh
they're in my faction
just because they have wronged me doesnt mean i should destroy them
they are still my friend
it would be betrayal
i draw the line at betrayal
they betrayed you when they decided to not let you have those provinces
good point
they are weak and you are stronger
ok ill kill them
Guys is there like a good video tutorial I can watch that explains everything the game tutorial does but better
uh
good trade or nah? i, uh, didn't realize that i needed capital ships to screen my carriers so.......
bro bot is noob
no nazi imagery/flags please.
forgot i had that mod on
guys what a good country to play?
should I be worried?
show its intel tab
why does bro look so evil lol
if you turn on joke portait their flag becomes the trans flag
is he brown ideology?
what that even mean
fashist
he looks eviler then hitler
who let bro run my country
he is gonna eat all childrens
all these images
he looks like he got flashbanged
or is about to murder someone
he staring to my soul
rate my europe (im playing as greater hungary)
germany was doing so bad against czechoslovakia years prior so i had to encircle a good portion of the czech army in slovakia
take the L hitler
suprising
1/10 germany you didnt naval invade viadivadosk
idk how to spell that
vladivostok
the uk went the monarchist path and joined the axis during the invasion of france, lmao
and i gave franco's desired territories in africa, and the rest of spain too
they joined the axis mid civil war
Who put Arcand in charge... he's like the most incompetent Fascist during this time period
Dang, more incompetent than Mussolini
Yeah, most of the people who went to his rallies were there to laugh at him
and to think ive spent 10 years as fascist canada to build an army of 80 divisions only to attack damn peru and brazil instead of the us
thank you canadian hitler
anyone want sora 2 invite codes? add me
we need the yakity sax music
I have another hot take: molotov ribbentropt pact isnt useless
it makes the borders look better
so its useful
and the soviets have to deal with polish resistance
Trying to do a world conquest as Italy, if I establish Italian East Africa, will I be able to annex it later?
what is the best ideology for a build up and attack later play style?
Now that is comedy
The strategy I've heard is for Soviets to put no garrison on Poland so when the Germans march in, they have to deal with 90% resistance territories
That Northern War sure looks Great
Dont forget that top part mr wisconsin
Its land Denmark took when they were in the war, Russia can't do anything with it, theres inpassable land between it
Have some cheese my funny hat of chef friend
Dont they own the port though?
okay, i'm actually pretty proud of this one. i micro'd my ass off to get anywhere. also, i have no idea wtf portugol is doing here, they're just chilling i guess
Keep pushing that north so they dont build up entrenchment
oh, don't worry, that's my next plan.
is this good?
getting that far literally took me an hour
No, its stats suck for one, do you have a tank design for both your tanks? Also i suggest only using one type of tank per division
Your heavies are also slowing down the division so the motorized is not providing anything
GERMANY😭 😭 😭 😭
clearly because they knew you would aggress them!
I was lowkey just chillin
then denmark attacked me
ngl i find it funny how sweden is always just sweden
fascist? sweden
communist? sweden
democratic? belive it or not, sweden
so close....should be able to finish up tomorrow.
Russia started collapasing, I am not dealing with that so I just annexed most of them
I wasn't able to figure out perms tag so i couldn't get them
what are you missing?
that works though
cruisers do dumb amounts of damage
why did you give russia a perm?
?
i dont think he made any heavies
thats why the stats are so trash
thats what i was thinking
even for light tanks though i dont think he had either
bro tell me what the heck 67 means
im not a 10 year old kid i dont understand it
its funny
y tho
now you have become the boomer who cannot fathom the fads of the young
eventually
enjoy it while you can
thats how the cookie crumbles
what nice borders
Been having fun with the game, playing very slowly since Im still brand new but boy do I suck 😭 Now if only my armies could be well supplied during their battle ;.;
more industry
also dont let tanks attrition
So more industry near wherever the battle is?
Thats what I thought
they're all-rounders
now gn
i like playing as fascist imperial federation but i cant be bothered to garrison india
i cant
no more industry in your territory, you want to make more guns
and that will change the low supply count my guys are receiving on the battlefield?
no your low supply is due to not having any supply hubs nearby the fighting
if you make trucks you can extend how far supply goes too by changing the motorization of the army
got ya, thank you my friend 🙏🏼
oh press f4 to see supply, red is bad
yeah that i know from watching some guides. Where my armies are fighting in Ethiopia the tiles are red for the supply so they’re taking more attrition. I figured maybe it was gonna be that way since they’re getting farther from the hub and more towards the capital
a hub*
I was curious on what i could do to help them get more supplies in the tiles they’re on, put the motorization (i think that’s what it’s called) to like level 3 on the hub closest to them and on all the armies
why isn't the command to add modern tanks into my inv not working?
do they have a focus for this I don't know about
nvm, got it to work
they also declared war on Paraguay and the rest of china
im not understanding
i have 26k of the Modern tank template i made but i still cant make a div?
you dont have enough equipment lol
watched this video on singleplayer tips and decided to hop into a france game, historical
Right now I got the French Military sorted into 7 armies:
Offensive Army HQ
-
- Armee (Main troops, pretty much only infantry, set up along the belgian border next to the Maginot)
- Armee Mobile (Every Mechanized, horse, and tank division Degaulle can gather, suited for armored breakthroughs)
Defensive Army HQ - Alpins (defends the italian border)
- Maginot (13 divisions covering the maginot from metz to switzerland)
- Armee Africque (African/Levantine Armies)
- Cochinchine (Indochina armies)
Also merged the west and north navies into North-West to make sure the northern fleets aren't too weak
Why
I declared on italy
And they joined the East Asian co prosperity Sphere
Moments after I declare spain joins
And then 1 month later Japan surrenders
Giving China all the war score
Even though I took out Italy and most of Spain
i completely forgot to train my planes dawg
gang never enable easy decision mode or ezd for more than 5 seconds
I learnt it the hard way
I'm getting imperial federation events without even having the dlc
Isnt that man the guns which is free?
is it free now?
Yes
the thing hasn't released yet has it?
oh....
I haven't downloaded it???
might be cause of steam family sharing
I thoguht it still wasn't out..
The update isnt
But they made man the guns free
I thought it woul release with the update
oh well
hope they do the soviets next
I can't stare one more day at the base tanks without tearing my eyes out
gang explode
bruh ive been playing imperial germany so much i can finish the civil war in may
</3
feels weird seeing yuunan being that big
solid 5 karma right here
good encirclement
thx. had one breakthrough and they folded like paper
i would finish the invasion but thew socialist turks is invading the middle east ._.
ok so now ur fighting a 2 front war
yep but atleast italy is decent this time and the turks are not that good
ok thats good to hear
turkey is pretty mountainous in the west
so u might have some trouble there
yeah
also the brits went ham and knocked out france which helps us alot
now iraq is involved, brotha
why
How can I convince Turkey to let me through?
idk
maybe u can just declare war on them
and take the bosphorus strait
Imma be real I think this Australia mod is a bit op
O.o maybe try Diplo pressure and improve relations for access
But yeh declare war if you can
It's fun to control all the straits in the game
just take the bosphorus
they cant stop you if you own it 🧠
dont make the mistake the british did during ww1 though
someone sold your data
gg then
probably meta tbh though
Yeah I think they did
i swear paradox made eternal nordic empire just to make people do a world conquest as sweden
whats that?
basically u need german, soviet, american and french lands and all the nordics as well
Damn
other people: Got my dream job, married my soulmate, bought a house, and we’re expecting twins!
me: Saving political power to annex Yugoslavia, accidentally guaranteed them instead, and now I’m at war with half of Europe.
Does a family give you 2 free mils
Can a family naval invade Norway
Can a job encircle 20 divisions
Didn't think so
montgomery and macarthur serving for australia?
how
and im here slaving away at my assignments
god save my soul
I hate UK! why do they HAVE TO EVEN ugh
is there a list of generals for the chinese faction yet?
Just got my first Germany W in civilian mode IRON MAN, why didn't the Germans use computer simulations to win the war?????
Meth.
Because of meth.
I have been addicted to meth from 79 to 2003
I have since then been rehabilitated
alr
wait are they only gonna release a trailer for expansion passes now?
it was pretty bad lol
any complain about great pdx leader will be eliminated, off to the gulag
pdx cant stop us
When hoi5 is coming?
When your dad returns with the milk
🧮 🤔

Why it shows infinite
Damn bro
Cigarettes?
Wait ur playing as Aus and not as Italy?
Nah
Oh right, can't import tobacco 
😔
Wdym?
Different guy
Cursed combo
You understand navy?
Navy is simple
Make shit dd
Make light cruiser with armor 4
Make shbb
Make hf nav for subs
Go base strike
Carriers are good too
yes except i have none of this
What do you have 💀
starting chinese naval tech
Tbf if you dont play germany navy gets sort of easier
Ouch
My italy game was so good
What has one to do with the other?
Does that mean you'd do Soviet navy 💀
Unfortunate. You should
creep can i hurt your feelings showing you my trash navy designs
Your statement implies that, I'm just a bit confused
Yes you may
Playing China is fun, unless the communists start shit
That is a skill issue
Ok mr tryhard
Hoes mad? 
This hurts every part of my body
If it works it works i guess
it doesnt work
Oh lol
Shhhh shh
it only kind of works because of my admiral ☠️
Torpedo screen pen :nowhy:
Torpedo visibility is so much more useful
I was so confused until i realised you play with a different language 💀
couldnt do the other one
Then wait until you do?
Holy shit
brother i am making a shit navy with like 90 dockyards i dont rlly care
ive gone with the strategy of just make more and try again
The only strategy you need for navy
Instead of just making better stuff 😭
look
Your dedication to making restarted builds is commendable

How many slots does china even get?
In total
theres a guy on instagram that only does no fizzy drink reels
maybe i need to start believing in sunk cost fallacy
hes been abstaining from fizzy drinks for over 3 years now
chile gets 3 research slots max
tf is the field
Still not good
what countries have 6 research slots and a decent research speed bonus?
i know of the US and NZ
USA
Does democratic Germany still get 6?
There's 1 other nation that gets 6 too I forgot
the field where the bite of 87 happened
Might be the only 2
sad
i played democratic germany and they only got 5
Sadge
btw you gotta play this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3511442894&searchtext=klaus+schwab
U can get 6 research slots?
yo wtf 
have you never played the united states of america
i dont play it a lot no
In the base game???
How do U get the 6th slot?
you start with 5
Stay democratic
I got the subscription
You start with 4 and get the option to get 2 more
oh
austria
okay
Only if you stay democratic
That sounds op ngl
thats a shame
But it's balanced by U having to stay democratic
Fascist NZ?
New Zealand
Ofc but they get 6 slots?
the mfs who draw maps: ❌
based
Lmao
Wdym fascist
You get it being independant any path
No
You start with 2
Then you can unlock 2 with no requirements
And then 2 for being free
Smh
Unless you mean usa
Im dumb idk usa lore
real talk it makes no sense a nation like luxembourg can hypothetically store 1 million guns, in a future update they should add warehouse buildings that allow you to store more weapons, also making you really think about where to retreat to ensure your warehouses wont be invaded and the guns seized by the enemy. similar to the scorched earth policy, it would also be cool to add an 'evacuate equipment' state choice that relocates all equipment stored in that state to one of your choosing
you said you have to go fascist to get 6
or was it someone else who said that
Not me
You can do any of the 3 alt hist paths
Tho id recommend against the democratic one and just do a civil war
okay
hoi4 is so boring to me now
Its USA
i only have like 2500 hours
the Baltics wont stand long
RIGA SHALL NOT FALL RAAAAH
Who even plays that
Unless for achievements nobody
Me
i will take the baltics and take berlin i am russia
gottem
NOOOO
Riga will stand!
I have china for long sleepy games
They shall resist
Cuz you scale the best lategame because of 500mil manpower and youre never like that threatened
Because like youre china
And then you get to build cool railways and indrastructure when youre out of build slots
Ok but building railways is nice
Yeah
Even better when you have to supply 2000 divisions in one of the worst supplied regions on the map
We talking about asia or americas?
And you get to larp making effective railways
You dont like comfort do you?
1000000000 social credits
/j
she meant guangxi clique china
this is the 4th japanese naval invasion with 20+ divs
Motorised 😭
Wait until you see 50+ naval invasions by the Americans
it was all i had
No don't use it like at all
It's expensive for no gain
Speed is irrelevant
thats what he said
Why are the motorised models, simple cars?
its no normal car
its the car
Dont tell me its Toyotas 😭
it looks like the one car from the tokyo drift meme
and the delorean(?) from back to the future
sorry i dont speak young people culture
Back to the future came out 30 years ago 💀
How old are you
60?
again that was all i had in the region
my inf was still training
im having to train 200 divs just to deal with naval invasions
I'm saying, you making motorised in the first place was a mistake
Don't do it
it was just a template i had thats it i didnt spend xp on it
and the divs well idk they were just there
Guys, why do I feel guilty when I play literally any other game then HOI4?
Insanity
God I hate autocorrect
infanterie
Like what kind of guilt is it that you could possibly be feeling
67 guilt
My brain is so used to HOI4 it starts to panic when it sees another game.
Ok what is it now. Guilt or panic?
You're not making sense
Guilt, kinda panic. Idk.
But this can't be a normal reaction😭
ur thinking too much about it
I guess I am.
I'll stop.
I have OCD.
So its kinda hard.
i have ocd too
Is it like a feeling of wasting time? Cuz that's what I has for some time
Alright
ive felt that way as well with eu4 but for a different reason
Like when I did other stuff I was thinking "you could be playing hoi4 rn"
Ok. Well, thanks for your advice:)))))
its just a game
HOI4 is life
Always sad to hear such words from the people that dont even wanna meta it up..
hi sahh
wyd
Lol
is 36 width Mountaineers good as Italy?
just some of my games on Steam
Cant wait to play some Victoria: revolutiona
based battlefront and m2tw enjoyer
"What I remember about the Rise of the Empire is, how quiet it was"
COMMAND AND CONQUER IN THE BIG 25. YOU'RE A LEGEND
FoC :poggers:
🐎 🐎 🏇
my first ever RTS series and one of the few games I will probably play until I die
☠️
this actually works?
well not by itself, no
like lmao
this happens cuz like
Atamanate Russia has so much cav buff
and
TOZ
these medals
and VPOZ design of course
Guess who'se getting fired
Guys, why does Boris III get poisoned when I play as another country but he gets shot when I kill him as Bulgaria?
It has to do with him dying IRL on historical
Oh, ok. Thanks.
thats not the host, thats the hacker
soooo op
is this kaiserreich??
yes
Are you ready for ze new world order
wouldnt it be sick as hell if there was a mod of a map of the world on how the flat earthers see it like the circle with the antartic wall
please no
don't make it happen
someone needs to make this billion dollar idea
ah hell nah
Yeah it will be the biggest mod bigger than kaiserreich
hello chear
I don't think so...

