hoi4-general

[fiery goblet]

but romania is gauranteed by the allies

[slim nexus]

Take allies i guess

[lapis snow]

so you can get romania without having to fight the allies, this is a good thing

[fiery goblet]

hm

[lapis snow]

guarantees don't chain

[meager valley]

A guarantor basically declares war on you when guaranteeing someone else. So guarantees on them don’t work

[fiery goblet]

wait also why cant i justify on all of czechoslovakia it only allows me to make justification claims on either slovakia or czechia

[meager valley]

Bc max 5 claims a war goal

[fiery goblet]

but in the treaty can i take all of it

[meager valley]

Yes

[lapis snow]

just fabricate on one state, you'll still annex all of it in the peace deal

[fiery goblet]

nice

[meager valley]

Claims just make those 5 states cheaper to take

But if it’s only you at war with them you can easily take it all

[weak schooner]

pls give me helper too

🙂

[fiery goblet]

wait a minute isnt germany suppose to have much more land

[meager valley]

No 🫩

You prevented it from doing Anchluss

[meager valley]

Kinda funny it has Memel and not Austria

[fiery goblet]

so i save the world

[meager valley]

Until they invade you

[fiery goblet]

why would they do that

[meager valley]

They want Austria

German Reich invades Austria majority of the time

[fiery goblet]

im hungar

[meager valley]

Yeah but they want the territory

Especially if you take Czechoslovakia

[gilded pike]

they wont invade him

[meager valley]

They invaded me on every Hungary run I’ve done since GDR

[gilded pike]

me not

,d

xd

[fiery goblet]

but i gave them time to take czechia its 1939

[meager valley]

I wish, if they didn’t invade me every game I might’ve had fun as Hungary

[meager valley]

Yeah I wonder if they can’t bc Anchluss never taken

[fiery goblet]

dw ill kill them

[gilded pike]

are 7 helmets good for infantry?

[west hare]

Helmets 💀

[gilded pike]

yh how do u call them then

[west hare]

Depends on the country but generally not...

[slim nexus]

7 helmets ahhhhhhh 🤣

[meager valley]

How many hamburgers does it cost?

[gilded pike]

bru

[west hare]

Infantry Battalions or just Infantry

[gilded pike]

ita not fun

[meager valley]

Battalions makeup a division. The helmets are infantry

[gilded pike]

ok

fine

[gilded pike]

and 9?

[west hare]

9 are fine as the universal defending infantry

[gilded pike]

and when meta

what is meta

like u have meta infantry template?

[west hare]

9-0

[gilded pike]

what does 0 mean

[west hare]

Essentially 9 inf battalions

[west hare]

line art

[gilded pike]

0 is arti

ye

[west hare]

Yea no artillery

It is ass

[gilded pike]

ik

i experimented a lot of times, bur 9-0 is meta by now yk

so i was right all of the time...

[west hare]

Artillery was not ass before AAT

[gilded pike]

whole 2 years(since i started playing), i ALWAYS used 9-0

i didnt care about anything

9-0 with green air and some meta tanks was for me always the easiest way to win

[ripe slate]

I just do 9-0 even without air

Superior firepower

[gilded pike]

id do with

air

cuz helping so much

and tanks too

[ripe slate]

Im lazy I dont wanna micro air

[gilded pike]

fine, but are u winning always?

js wanted to ask

[ripe slate]

Yeh

[gilded pike]

ok

[ripe slate]

Though I dont play like, Albania

[gilded pike]

u mean u play only majors?

[ripe slate]

Nah but I like to play midsize countries so I can play laidback

[gilded pike]

ah ok

fine

[ripe slate]

I did harder ones in the past but then after I was like "I cant be bothered"

[gilded pike]

its always challenging to play those countries

but fun

[cedar lance]

6 weeks left till the NEW expansion comes out on 20 november

[uneven portal]

I literally have no clue how to play a minor that just sits back and relaxes while providing some support to the majors of the faction

except for Canada

[cedar lance]

im gonna use the Ranger unit a LOT

as Estonia

[uneven portal]

just use the support companyt

they're peak

[cedar lance]

no

[uneven portal]

yess

heavies with ranger support

[unique granite]

Can i somehow make a front line over multiple countries?

[brittle cypress]

Yeah but you gotta be at war with them

[fiery goblet]

this is a weird germany

[unique granite]

How?

[brittle cypress]

Just draw the frontline?

[unique granite]

Oh ok 😄

[brittle cypress]

? Does it not work or something

[unique granite]

I have tried it but didnt work before, maybe didnt do it right ima try later

[fiery goblet]

is this normal

[woeful matrix]

why cant i see my pupets divisons ?

[sonic sand]

no tf they dont?

[sonic sand]

it is just ww1 germany

its not that weird

[sonic sand]

depends who you ask

i suggest before you upgrade to Götterdämmerung you get la resistance beforehand

[gilded pike]

its notmal

[sonic sand]

if you're going austria hungary

at least

spies are a lifesaver

[gilded pike]

why for austro hungary no need

[sonic sand]

Götterdämmerung it is.

[fiery goblet]

this is beautiful!

[sonic sand]

as hungary sorry.

[fair horizon]

chat do you think paradox will ever fix germany steamrolling russia before the usa joins ww2?

[sonic sand]

austria hungary as austria is cringe as hell.

[gilded pike]

explain me why, i alr conquered the world without

with austro hungary

[fiery goblet]

but im hungary

[sonic sand]

as hungary its needed

austria not so much

[gilded pike]

it isnt vro

why

say

[sonic sand]

so

usually

I have spies running [

diplo pressure

[gilded pike]

for what

[sonic sand]

to enjoy much better RNG

I can get NAP's before the focuses for subjugation fire making it a near 100%

its super rare for a rejection and it honestly doesn't cost all that much in the long run

[gilded pike]

it doesnt need, cuz js improve relations with austria. with chechoslovakia js improve them one more time and time unite railroads focus. They will 100% accept

[sonic sand]

they wont

[gilded pike]

i looked in hoi4 files

they will 100%

[sonic sand]

they wont if you have done bled.

[gilded pike]

for me its always

[sonic sand]

which drops base opinion by 25 i believe

[gilded pike]

like did alr 10 times and they always accepted

in gtd

[sonic sand]

again i just don't like relying on luck

[gilded pike]

ok

[sonic sand]

i know its a luck based event

[gilded pike]

but i trust in luck, always

[sonic sand]

and having diplo pressure makes it more in my favour

[gilded pike]

your opinion

[sonic sand]

(it also allows me to have a better chance for demand Transylvania)

and also for a crucial NAP with germany

[fiery goblet]

im cooked germany is losing to france

[sonic sand]

honestly this gets fixed in GTD and you arent allowed to join the axis as A-H

[fiery goblet]

i was forced in it

[sonic sand]

because germany REALLY wants Sudetenland

[gilded pike]

ima js conquering yougoslavia and romania ASAP like js after chechoslovakia puppeted. its easy, in 2 month won alr😔

[sonic sand]

i would rather play a more passive game only doing things through focus. more fun that way.

plus it gets you put into one of the best combat scenarios in the game

if you do it right

you got the germans on one side

romanians on the other

[gilded pike]

ok, but it takes the trianon away

i dont need to spend days for focus

[sonic sand]

and if the germans so choose they can invade poland with the soviets at any time and open up a 3rd front

[meager valley]

In my games they always do

[sonic sand]

i understand getting rid of that because good lord i have no manpower.

[meager valley]

I legit haven’t had one game as Hungary since GDR released that Germany didn’t invade me

[sonic sand]

ive had it a few times when they don't

[sonic sand]

they always do

always

you can only delay it with an NAP

[gilded pike]

me too, but js soing a breakthrough, no problems for me

[sonic sand]

ik ik

but trust me actually playing defense oriented A-H is fun as hell.

because you're constantly min-maxing everything you have out of your troops

[gilded pike]

yk, im doing it only for achievement

[sonic sand]

i play for the love of the game.

[gilded pike]

cuz this try failed

i did amth wrong

smth

[sonic sand]

hmmm i wonder.

i got antischluss

which was suprisingly easy...

[gilded pike]

it failed cuz i invaded axis first, but needed to invade allies actually

[gilded pike]

its hell easy

[sonic sand]

im 60% sure you can join the allies

and declare war on every non allied country

and do it that way

[gilded pike]

wait

[fiery goblet]

how does germany do this

[sonic sand]

focus (restore the grand alliance

[gilded pike]

bro

...

[warm forum]

lmao wtf is this

I wasn't even looking

This is spanish civil war

[uneven portal]

why

[gilded pike]

lemme explain...

[unreal raft]

rate my encirclement

[slim nexus]

10/10 solid work

[uneven portal]

holy shit the soviets need to go to scraping the barrel now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1368320445782425730/attachment.gif

[gilded pike]

i prefer turning into fascist and taking allies first with axis. after this im doing forts along axis and js easy conquering them😉 @sonic sand

now yk

[unreal raft]

they got like 10 divs on moscow

[fiery goblet]

why wont these romanians die

[silk fossil]

Based

[sonic sand]

welcome to my life.

[fair horizon]

zero supply

[sonic sand]

romanians got no supply

[gilded pike]

cuz theyre starvinf

[sonic sand]

level 7 forts

in the mountains

[fiery goblet]

me or romania

[sonic sand]

both

[gilded pike]

both

[fiery goblet]

maybe i ask bulgaria to let me go through?

[sonic sand]

denied

[fiery goblet]

damn it

[gilded pike]

.

@sonic sand

[fiery goblet]

what can i possibly do in this situation

[fair horizon]

pull some troops back so you have some supply

[sonic sand]

no skill required.

[unreal raft]

the aftermath

[sonic sand]

or you could play the game how its meant to be played.

[gilded pike]

its for achievement bro

i said alr

[sonic sand]

great hunger?

[fiery goblet]

oh alr but i feel as if doing that is very hard since i have to micro manage them out

[silk fossil]

Yoo i dont think there is a way the game is meant to be played 🤣

[sonic sand]

you're doing the wrong focus tree my man.

[gilded pike]

all i already mentioned WAS ONLY FOR AUSTRO HUNGARY ACHIEVEMENT

now u understand i hope?

[fair horizon]

this entire part has no supply, if you have trucks change the supply mobilization

[fair horizon]

also if you have any cas use tha ttoo

[gilded pike]

dont do the auto plan

fiest

[fiery goblet]

what why

[fair horizon]

because some people dont realize battleplanning is free stats

[gilded pike]

xuz ur killing ur divisions so far

[sonic sand]

horthy and the austrian prince?

its not that hard...

[fiery goblet]

how is italy doing better than germans

[gilded pike]

yk why i mentioned the war with allies?

[sonic sand]

austria hungary existing

[gilded pike]

and axis too

[fair horizon]

oh also Oster, let the romanians waste their equipment on you, they're already starting to run out of guns

[loud shuttle]

maybe a few reasons

[cedar lance]

im gonna make a couple few Ranger templates once the Ranger unit is released in november

[gilded pike]

bro we already understoodz that u love rangers

ols

pls

[cedar lance]

sorry

im gonna kick butts and take names as Estonia

[unreal raft]

way ahead of you

[fair horizon]

bro how you do even get through the torture to do that

[unreal raft]

pain and suffering

[fair horizon]

also show navy

[uneven portal]

because the maginot exists and the German ai sucks

[flat gazelle]

smh i gotta do a second monarchist brazil run

because i got kicked out of the allies in the first one

[fair horizon]

monarchist 🤮

[uneven portal]

imagine spending your money on toa (I spent my money on toa)

[flat gazelle]

eh its the best way for the achievement im going for

[fair horizon]

NO

[flat gazelle]

i spent my money on the dlc subscription, very different

[fair horizon]

also what acheivement?

[gilded pike]

he got the puppet of USSR and got belorussia or he got it by peace treaty and whitepeaced😎

[flat gazelle]

i couldve easily done it on my world conquest run as commie brazil

but i forgot it existed

[fair horizon]

that sounds horrible ngl

[flat gazelle]

its easy actually tbf

[craggy trail]

[flat gazelle]

last run failed because i did stupid wars and generated world tension and got kicked out the allies for that

[fair horizon]

yeah but if the allies decide to play their stupid kicking crap they'll boot you constantly

[gilded pike]

hiiiiiii

[flat gazelle]

and also because soviets naval invaded rome

[fair horizon]

because being kicked = "traitor"

[craggy trail]

Is the world now Brazil?

[flat gazelle]

and you need to get germany before the axis falls

so either hungary needs to be a major or italy not fall

[gilded pike]

YESSSS BROOOOO

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[gilded pike]

@flat gazelle look dm

[coral gorge]

shjt I still overkilled

[sudden thistle]

🔥

[gilded pike]

its ez

[coral gorge]

nah it was my mistake

I should have stopped pushing

[gilded pike]

u mean so

fr

[coral gorge]

killing them wasn't my intention

I just kinda forgot about it

[flat gazelle]

might be the most dripped out leader in hoi4

[gilded pike]

i have crush on him btw

[gilded pike]

u couldve killed the whole army of them

xd

more dopamine so

[sudden thistle]

How many hours do u have on hoi4

[craggy trail]

Steam sale ends in 2 hours

[gilded pike]

2000

[uneven portal]

he has less than 500

[gilded pike]

bro wdym

[sudden thistle]

Can u check if foxhole is on sale

I don’t have steam on my phone

[coral gorge]

hmmmmmm

actually

what do I do now

hmm

maybe I should build a navy

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[gilded pike]

@uneven portal spacewar is a non-license hoi4

[sudden thistle]

Man in the high castle 🔥

[gilded pike]

like i used a non-licensed hoi4

bur i bought license a year ago

[sudden thistle]

Space war is kinda fun ngl

I played it yesterday

It has like 20 lines of code but it’s fun

[coral gorge]

printing the ships

[gilded pike]

i was piratinf hoi4

piratinf

piratinf

[sudden thistle]

Yes u said that already

But space war is an actual game

[gilded pike]

so thats why spacewar is shown

[gilded pike]

fr

i connected my steam with a non-licensed hoi4

yk

[gilded pike]

and it became spacewar

for aome reasons

[sudden thistle]

It’s this

[gilded pike]

ik

[sudden thistle]

The yellow is a black hole

[gilded pike]

so u trust me ive 2k hours in hoi4?

[coral gorge]

even though I am at war with the US

[sudden thistle]

Nah

(I’m a hater)

[pearl flume]

New IRL News converted into HOI4 Terms!

Romania got new political advisors!

[gilded pike]

a silent workhorse?

[pearl flume]

Actually 16 new advisors

Can't believe Nicusor Dan had so much PP

[gilded pike]

so 16 silent workhorses

[pearl flume]

yes

[sudden thistle]

He used cheats

U need 2400 pp for 16 advisors

[gilded pike]

pp and pp 400

[pearl flume]

Lol

bro, Nicusor Dan has some weird advisor choices

[slim nexus]

alright

[umbral agate]

what countries can get really high research speeds i wanna try smth

[gilded pike]

i gotta explain it to u. so i installed a non-licensed hoi 4, cuz i js found hoi 4 out, then i found out, that i can connect a non-licensed hoi 4 with steam, so i could play mp with other non-licensed players of hoi 4. i did so and it turned into some spacewar. up then i played a lot of hoi 4 like a lot, so i have 1354 hours in a non-licensed hoi 4. but in the last year on 1st september, i decided to buy a license.
This all may be confusing, but it went so. we have what we have.

[pearl flume]

Early game, usually Sweden

[umbral agate]

what path

[umbral agate]

is it th fascist path

[sudden thistle]

Nah

[umbral agate]

or democratic

[gilded pike]

bro

what nah

what nah

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pancake-cat-eating-pancake-i-love-eat-panake-gif-10374199516316168840

[pearl flume]

I took the Nordic Defence Council path last time

[umbral agate]

how do i get that?

[pearl flume]

Iirc you get like +25% research bonus by 1937 smth

[umbral agate]

it doesnt let me do it

[gilded pike]

u shi

[umbral agate]

im doing mp

i want to try something

[gilded pike]

<@&846894118219022336>

<@&846892247651057716>

[sonic sand]

Woahhhgh

Thank god

Holyyy

[umbral agate]

i was watching that

[gilded pike]

same

[agile tundra]

terrible moderation

[sonic sand]

[gilded pike]

wdym bro

[umbral agate]

dont turn off my video

[agile tundra]

so slow

[slim nexus]

What happened

[umbral agate]

bring back the video

[sudden thistle]

It was there for 20 seconds

[gilded pike]

they deleted it in 1 and half minute

[agile tundra]

slower than mr bidem

[slim nexus]

20 seconds too long smhmh

[umbral agate]

how do i do that is it democratic?

[sonic sand]

Somone posted nsfw

[slim nexus]

Doesn’t surprise me tbh

[uncut pollen]

Should i declare war?

[sonic sand]

[gilded pike]

ofc bro

and attack immediately

[slim nexus]

nice duck

[gilded pike]

its tfr but so deep

tfr ost

[sudden thistle]

I think that tank needs tanks

[marsh comet]

I wanna form the ottomans as Turkey. Should I go for Greece and Bulgaria first?

[snow rain]

please use field marshal frontlines (maintain SHIFT key when doing it too)

[sudden thistle]

Flip a coin

[gilded pike]

vro

[uncut pollen]

I HAVE BERLIN

[sudden thistle]

How about both at the same time ❗

[sudden thistle]

Is that third rome

[uncut pollen]

Yep

[gilded pike]

the question like: should i breathe or not, to live?

[gilded pike]

u shouldve a better army ig...

[sudden thistle]

Oh I thought he said Greece or Bulgaria

But yes

[marsh comet]

I was unsure, just wanted to see if that's how it is done.

[gilded pike]

ah

ok

[marsh comet]

If I invade Syria then France will be at war with me, and if I invade Iraq then Britain will be at war with me... I guess I can't go there until 1950?

[tiny iris]

Space war?

[slow nova]

GUYS I DID IT

oggi in italian means today

[fiery goblet]

yo other than hungary what is a cool country for beginner

[sudden thistle]

Canada

[fiery goblet]

but how

[sudden thistle]

Help in North Africa, Italy, d-day

[slow nova]

germany

italy or austria

I think this 4 for beginners are good

[fiery goblet]

but idk how to do navel invasions

[sudden thistle]

It’s not hard 😭

[fiery goblet]

im kind of dumb okay

[sudden thistle]

Ok
Click on a general
Click on the divs u want to naval invade with
Click the port icon in the battleplan taskbar
Click an allied port that u want to leave from
Click a tile on an enemy coast(ports preferred)
Leave the taskbar
Hover over the generals battleplan like 3 pixels above him
Wait for it to say ## days (like 7/7) then click go

7 days of prep per divisions

U have a max of 10 divs unless u research the upgrade

[fiery goblet]

uhuh

dont i need ships to protect those troops

[fresh jacinth]

nice

[sudden thistle]

Yes

But

The UK/US navy is more than enough

[fiery goblet]

i see

[gilded pike]

allies navy is gonna guarantee u a naval invasion

but u need to micro ur troops ehen landed

when

[fiery goblet]

okay but wont the italians have like 5x more divisions than me

[fresh jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1285400297254158409/1303381058951053402/adolf_hitler_is_typing.gif

[gilded pike]

if u going to invade germany, none of italian troops are prolly gonna be there

[fiery goblet]

no im gonna invade italy from the south

[gilded pike]

why

[fiery goblet]

thats what the other guy told me to

do

[sly elm]

Dont ask how i got THIRTY divisions as palestine, i dont even know myself

[gilded pike]

who

[sly elm]

isnt there supposed to be an Ö in Österreich

[gilded pike]

it is but no german keyboard

[sly elm]

you can make the Ö without a german keyboard

[gilded pike]

on pc not

[sly elm]

yes you can....

[gilded pike]

how

if no german keyboard

[sly elm]

either search if your local keyboard can

OR input a code to put the Ö

[gilded pike]

i bet he doesn't know this

me alr

[fiery goblet]

thank you

[fiery goblet]

@sudden thistle

i cant type his name out

[gilded pike]

so

i could agree with him also

i could explain why

[gilded pike]

do u need ann explanation?

[fiery goblet]

yes

[sudden thistle]

What

[gilded pike]

usually if you're invading normandy(day-d), germany has a lot of troops there on defending it.

so better do italy, cuz it sucks

[sudden thistle]

And if ur a player ur divs are like 5x better than AI

[flat gazelle]

monarchist brazil so based

press butons get cores

[safe wing]

Best Brazil path IMO

[fickle cove]

guys, let me recommend smth to you

[flat gazelle]

eh

[gilded pike]

sha

[flat gazelle]

communist is kinda better

[gilded pike]

wha

[fickle cove]

play hoi4 with the eoanb music submod

[flat gazelle]

you get to do stuff earlier

[fiery goblet]

okay so as canada should i focus more on industrial tech or military tech

[fickle cove]

that way you'll listen to classical music as you play a 1930s game

it fits really well

[safe wing]

Can we agree that Monarchist Italy is better than Communist Italy

[gilded pike]

both

[fickle cove]

people in the 1930s still listened to classical music a LOT

[fiery goblet]

oh alright

[gilded pike]

we're talking abt brazil

vro

[fiery goblet]

i dont need to add supply lines right?

[safe wing]

Because Monarchist Italy gets access to all the war goals fascist Italy does

[sudden thistle]

If people are bad at the game, why don’t u just get good at the game

[safe wing]

Ik

I got an Italy plan

Go monarchist, build Carriers, Light Cruisers, and Destroyers, use MA r (massmob) as doctrine) and build fighters, cas and if possible Strat bombers

[gilded pike]

wow

a basic italy path

like every italy game

[safe wing]

Its meta though

Minus the Monarchist part

[gilded pike]

the pope is op like fr

[fiery goblet]

do i need to focus on engineering as canada

[safe wing]

Monarchist without the Pope

[gilded pike]

wdym

shos

show

[gilded pike]

why

[safe wing]

Unique Victor Emmauel Roman portrait

[safe wing]

Also I’ve done the papal path alot

[gilded pike]

always

like

[safe wing]

I wanna do something different

[gilded pike]

ok

[flat gazelle]

so based

true uncensored ww2 history

[fiery goblet]

is having 0 man power as canada bad

[gilded pike]

why not from uk

[gilded pike]

nah

[safe wing]

I’m gonna have to attack Turkey before 1939

[flat gazelle]

im not in the allies yet

[safe wing]

Because they get guaranteed by Germany and the UK

[gilded pike]

why, for roman empire?

[safe wing]

Yes

[gilded pike]

aight

[gilded pike]

ok

donit

do it

[tiny iris]

Nice, got this achiement by accident.

[gilded pike]

same

[safe wing]

Not now, work until 4:00 pm

[gilded pike]

once wasnplaying js kaiser

[tiny iris]

I always play as the Kaiser

[gilded pike]

work hard to get expansion pass 2

[safe wing]

And probably no hoi4 until 4:45 at the latest

[gilded pike]

[safe wing]

I already did

[gilded pike]

good work

[flat gazelle]

this is actually cool considering we start with no airforce tech

[gilded pike]

year?

[flat gazelle]

41

[gilded pike]

aight, very good

[flat gazelle]

also we're making 5 planes a day so its growing rapidly

[gilded pike]

ofx

odx

pdc

ofc

[safe wing]

Italy is my favorite major btw

[gilded pike]

my is luxembourg

or butan

cant choose

[flat gazelle]

what is this frontline

[gilded pike]

blitzkrieg

[flat gazelle]

well

first naval invasion failed

8 divs lost 💔

thankfully we have a shit ton of manpower

[gilded pike]

how many divisions they had?

[flat gazelle]

i forgot ngl

[fiery goblet]

is there a chance of republican spain just winning

[flat gazelle]

damn

[cerulean anvil]

does anyone use paratroopers when doing overlord

[flat gazelle]

i forgot they could do that on historical ffs

[fiery goblet]

holy is this common because this is not recognizable to me

[gilded pike]

historical focus?

[fiery goblet]

ye

[gilded pike]

very rare

[flat gazelle]

we have a bigger air force than the germans 😭

[gilded pike]

strong

[fiery goblet]

will this help me in any way like spain joining because of the ussr

[gilded pike]

ig

not sure

[fiery goblet]

i have a question is hoi4 perhaps the hardest paradox game?

or is it something like eu4

[sudden thistle]

Vic3 maybe?

[fiery goblet]

best template right guys

[flat gazelle]

this is true ww2 history

[sonic sand]

im thinking a collapsing one

[pearl flume]

38 width?

32*

[sonic sand]

man i love that one time in ww2 when Hungarians, Germans and Slovaks got encircled and crushed in southern france pushing against the spanish borders and the sea

[flat gazelle]

dont forget that they were encircled thanks to the tank and air forces of a united south america

[sonic sand]

I think paradox should add a feature that can have some divisions when encircled up against another nations border have a chance to "escape across the border" if there are no troops on that tile and they will then return home if you have an available port.

(and they don't get convoy raided)

[gilded pike]

not funny then

[flat gazelle]

and yeah this was like the entire western army

[gilded pike]

strong

[sonic sand]

its more realistic

exiled divisions don't really happen besides

like

after peace deals

[gilded pike]

hoi 4 is unrealistic

[sonic sand]

well yeah

but i think

[gilded pike]

they just get exhausted as hell

[sonic sand]

yeah.

[gilded pike]

no supply

[flat gazelle]

istg if i dont get the occupation on berlin

ill kill myself

[sonic sand]

i think people wanting to escape an encirclement

is natural

so i think people would run across a border

[gilded pike]

one time as us i took only moscow on peace deal, all my troops were in moscow... btw i let the ussr free...

[sonic sand]

to save their own skin if all else fails

[sonic sand]

yeah that seems fun.\

atp just disband them or hope they let you have milaccess

[gilded pike]

it was like 45, i had all tanks there

[gilded pike]

ye ik

[sonic sand]

seems legit.

[fiery goblet]

why cant i invade navel

[sonic sand]

you need ships

in all the areas the line passes

and that water needs to be green

enjoy throwing your navy against america for 7 years

[flat gazelle]

bro can they just close this

[sonic sand]

no

[flat gazelle]

also wtf is this bruh

[fiery goblet]

i thought allies had navel supremecy

[sonic sand]

usually they do

but

if UK is out of the fight

[fiery goblet]

uk is in the fight

the war just started

[sonic sand]

then wait a little

[fiery goblet]

ok

[sonic sand]

the navy should

yknow

do navy things

[gilded pike]

logically

[sonic sand]

if you're in the med

you might need to put some ships up

[fiery goblet]

yeah im going to italy

[sonic sand]

in Adriatic or black sea

[icy crescent]

What's the Meta?
Colombia.

Sorry for the joke.

[sonic sand]

where are you sailing from

you might need to see if you control some choke points

[gilded pike]

from canada is he

[sonic sand]

is the

spanish in the war

[fiery goblet]

oh wait nvm italy didnt even join the war yet

[sonic sand]

well that doesn't help much 🤣

[sonic sand]

if spain joins the war

you will be unable

to naval invade through Gibraltar

so be weary of that

[gilded pike]

through malta alr

[sonic sand]

hes canada.

[gilded pike]

or corsica, sardinia

[gilded pike]

hes allies

hes a puppet

[sonic sand]

yeah.

[fiery goblet]

yo why isnt italy joining yet

[flat gazelle]

guys rate the brazil historical larp

[loud fox]

I learned almost everything only thr airplane idk how to send them to war

[sudden thistle]

They join after France dies

Like what happened historically

[sonic sand]

the brazilians took berlin

[sudden thistle]

I did that once in a mp game

[icy crescent]

On Historical they only join after some time or date.

[sonic sand]

imposing phonk to all german hip hop and hardbass enjoyers

[gilded pike]

achievement?

[sonic sand]

yes

cap berlin

as brazil

and have germany capitulate

while controlling berlin

which is honestly kinda annoying because the UK could at any time say "this is mine now" and take it

[gilded pike]

im asking if he got the achievement yet

yj

[sonic sand]

it has to

cap

[gilded pike]

ik

[flat gazelle]

thats not really a problem tbh

the bigger worry is them kicking you out of allies

[sonic sand]

man reminds me of a game where as austria hungary i took berlin with the allies.

then the UK decided it was going to take it back

and promptly lost it to the soviets

who i wasn't at war with

I took berlin with no allied troops too

[fiery goblet]

italy joined but i still cant navel invade wth

[sonic sand]

check Gibraltar

[fiery goblet]

what do i look for

[dusky burrow]

What template

[sonic sand]

there should be a little symbol in the water

hover over it

see what it says

[sudden thistle]

Uh

[dusky burrow]

And I've heard allies hate Brazils for making amtracs for some reason

[sudden thistle]

I will need to check the save

[sudden thistle]

Idk why

It’s fun

[fiery goblet]

where

[sudden thistle]

Where tf are u naval invading from???

[sonic sand]

canada

ofc

[dusky burrow]

(actually I know why and it's because the rest of the allies want that rubber)

[sudden thistle]

Bro

Do it

From

Africa

Or Malta

[sonic sand]

^

[flat gazelle]

guys when does hungary become a major

because

[sudden thistle]

Genuinely stupid

[fiery goblet]

oh okay

[sonic sand]

when it feels like becoming a major

[flat gazelle]

i might have a problem

[sudden thistle]

There is no point to do that

[flat gazelle]

if italy caps before germany

this whole run is for nothing

[dusky burrow]

You don't want a naval invasion that will take more time than the supply grace available, but yeah wtf

[sonic sand]

whenever hungary feels like it wants to be a major

[dusky burrow]

You should be able to attack Gibraltar from the Atlantic side

[fiery goblet]

guys at what skill point should i get to before touching mods

[sonic sand]

i play Great war Redux at 150 hours

so

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-crying-black-guy-pleading-plead-gif-15911108386383402751

[sly elm]

how did that work!??! why did they just GIVE their capital

[sonic sand]

big army

go

brrrr

[zenith charm]

bro how did they cap

[fiery goblet]

wait let me see my hours

[ripe slate]

The king

[sonic sand]

"why did the czechs just GIVE germany the Sudetenland" ass logic

[fiery goblet]

but i doubt great war redux changes anything other than the timeline

[sonic sand]

it changes quite a bit

new tech tree

stuff countering other stuff

[loud fox]

How to know if my plane is attacking smthin?

[sonic sand]

everything is slow.

[sly elm]

you are wrong right there

[sonic sand]

yes

[fiery goblet]

i only have 56 hours

[sonic sand]

GWredux is hell.

and very different

sure its still hoi4 but

[dusky burrow]

What kind of Palestine is this

[sly elm]

well czechia didnt give up their capital and neither the sudetenland, the allies did

[sonic sand]

well whats to say the same didn't happen there?

[sly elm]

RT 56 filastin tree

[sly elm]

the allies dont exist, they are fully independent

[icy crescent]

I started a 1939 game and just wanted to spectate.
Ah well.

[sonic sand]

im not saying it was the allies.

[sly elm]

what is this supposed to prove??

[sonic sand]

its not.

look closely

[sly elm]

no major powers exist, except maybe russia but they are weakend asf

[sonic sand]

none of the focuses are mutually exclusive.

[flat gazelle]

bro istg

the italians are so mentally challenged

[sonic sand]

if you want to get into mods I suggest getting into some quality of life stuff first

[sonic sand]

type shit?

[fiery goblet]

how to remove these divisions from my army

[sonic sand]

click the leave door button

very end

[flat gazelle]

okay i have a plan

i will stop pushing germany

and wait for hungary to become a major

because if the axis caps i wont get the achievement

which is very dumb btw

[fiery goblet]

the bin?

[sonic sand]

no

that disbands them

other way

[fiery goblet]

Where???

[sonic sand]

the one that looks like a door

[zenith charm]

german throw

[sonic sand]

no just

k inda

[fiery goblet]

here???

[grizzled zenith]

That's the best mod for hoi4 ever lmao

[fiery goblet]

mv,

nvm

found it

i found it

[sonic sand]

no

alright

[sly elm]

playing with historical off is just goofy

[sharp sierra]

😏

[sonic sand]

non historical players when they get no hindsight

[sharp sierra]

i play ahistorical almost eery game

[grizzled zenith]

What

[sharp sierra]

navel

[grizzled zenith]

Navy is scary, I just spam 2 billion cheap naval bombers

[fiery goblet]

I THOUGHT ALLIES HAD NAVEL SUPREMECY

[grizzled zenith]

Oh navel

[sharp sierra]

whats scary is me invading ur navel

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[flat gazelle]

🔥

[grizzled zenith]

(first time I heard of this word)

[fiery goblet]

isnt that a belly button

[flat gazelle]

shoutout to hungary for becoming a major after italy did what italy does best

[grizzled zenith]

Nah they sink their nave when you jeed it the most

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[grizzled zenith]

I had Laos become a major and the leader of the Allies

Laos is a pain to capitulate btw you can't even take its capital

It literally has 1 VP for the whole country

[grizzled zenith]

And you don't take it when you take it

[fiery goblet]

i failed my invasion of southern italy

italy too strong

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[zenith charm]

nice

[grizzled zenith]

Nice encirclement

[grizzled zenith]

Tbh Italy can be very strong when you play as it, but it's AI is sooo stupid

[fiery goblet]

Im dumber

Is the UK beginner friendly?

[zenith charm]

italy is italying

[grizzled zenith]

Not rly, I mean you have nothing to worry about nobody can get to you ur navy is just too big, but the thing is, you need to figure out how to use navy

[fiery goblet]

Wow you guys are so good i hope i can be like you guys one day and enjoy the game how it was intended

[grizzled zenith]

Germany is pretty beginner friendly

[fiery goblet]

Really?

When I played as it i got destroyed and never played as it again

[grizzled zenith]

I mean, it is pretty much the strongest nation and you get a bunch of free expansion

Sure you need to know how to fight before playing it

[grizzled zenith]

That's not so hard I think I got used to the controls after 10-50 hours and after 100 I was ok at this game

[fiery goblet]

Yeah thats why i played as Hungary before it and remade the Austro Hungarian empire

[flat gazelle]

first time going for communist germany

[sudden grotto]

mackensen is looking at you wiht disgust

[grizzled zenith]

Also I learned to play as Italy, you are immediately at war and Ethiopians are literally fighting with sticks so you get a punching bag to learn to fight at

[fiery goblet]

Im at 50 hours and im still bad at it but I do know some vasucs

Basica

Basics

[safe wing]

Its the weakest alt history germany path tbh

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[flat gazelle]

eh i just wanted to check it out

never played it

[safe wing]

Fair

[sudden grotto]

strasser just got honored

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah I ment basics and at like 100 hours I was okay-ish

Also I watched a lot of guides

[fiery goblet]

When did u become pro

[grizzled zenith]

Maybe 500 hours, but now I got 1000 hours and I'm doing a Luxembourg WC

[fiery goblet]

I take guidance from the server as its easier to understand when im being taught at real time

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

[sudden grotto]

lil flex

[craggy trail]

@golden vale I got maxwell the cat. He spins (oops. Wrong person)

[sudden grotto]

next time liechestein fr fr

[craggy trail]

Wrong person oops

[craggy trail]

@supple kettle

[sudden grotto]

"angry Slaves"

[supple kettle]

XD wow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204962483499171840/1417594202417664152/Frogmoh.gif

[grizzled zenith]

I mean, why not lmao(Luxembourg and Kuwait in vanilla and Malta in Kaiserredux)

[grizzled zenith]

Angry slavs

[grizzled zenith]

I played Lichtenstein in R56 but it's just a more painful Austria

[flat gazelle]

a lag caused me to accept ts 💔

[sudden grotto]

funny how the word slave actually came from slavs being the most enslaved people at the time-

[flat gazelle]

idgaf tho im not touching the navy tree

the revolt aint even that terrible

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah slavs even enslaved themselves

[sudden grotto]

true slav moment

[grizzled zenith]

Damn

[sudden grotto]

raeder is coping

[flat gazelle]

never seen the ai go for the danubian federation lol

[sudden grotto]

never seen ai with so much stability

[simple citrus]

uhhh i'm afraid

[grizzled zenith]

That's annoying tbh

[fiery goblet]

Are there any like really beginner friendly mods that arent absolute shit

[sudden grotto]

isnt that the same nation tails mentioned

[craggy trail]

Yeah. I'm doomed

[sudden grotto]

look at this dude

[flat gazelle]

i actually like the color

[zenith charm]

underbelly of europe

[grizzled zenith]

Tbh I think that's better to learn the game in vanilla

[simple citrus]

red flood

[sudden grotto]

fps map ?

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[fiery goblet]

Whats thar

[craggy trail]

There's a "metal health" mechanic that you have to work with

[simple citrus]

a mod

[fiery goblet]

Whats the mod about

[grizzled zenith]

The most schizophrenic mod hoi4 have ever seen

[sudden grotto]

sheep ai

[flat gazelle]

tno map mod

[craggy trail]

and it plays the stressed sound from Darkest Dungeon when it gets low

[fiery goblet]

Huh

[tiny iris]

Guys, why is BBA called by blood alone?

[simple citrus]

no onee won the first weltkrieg

[tiny iris]

What's the story?

[sudden grotto]

trust me, sheep ai is goated

[fiery goblet]

It sounded like a soviet cold war victory

[fiery goblet]

Hm

[zenith charm]

L axis

[hot patrol]

playing again after a year :)

[simple citrus]

it's much worse than that

[grizzled zenith]

It is

[grizzled zenith]

That's red something else I forgot it's name

[hot patrol]

i love this game

[sudden grotto]

red dusk ?

[fiery goblet]

What the hell is this

[sudden grotto]

there is an impostor among us.

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

Red dusk

[hot patrol]

Other countries is my favourite country

[simple citrus]

help tails castanor finna get my ahh

[sudden grotto]

whats up with the schizo german potrait ?

[simple citrus]

and the storm king is back

[flat gazelle]

yeah that lil danubian confederation aint gonna slide

[fiery goblet]

Is that a fascist france

[simple citrus]

and the jadd empire is going on a rampage

[sudden grotto]

accelerationist*

[grizzled zenith]

I'm pretty sure yeah

[simple citrus]

never ever speak to me again

[simple citrus]

@zinc light @craggy trail should i be terrified

[fiery goblet]

Is there a proper centaura mod for hoi4

[craggy trail]

I'm not exaclty familiar with this year's april fools collab

[sudden grotto]

centaura?

[simple citrus]

well uh just that you know

[fiery goblet]

Yeah

[simple citrus]

this thing is like

demolishing everything

kiria is crumbling

[grizzled zenith]

What's that

[simple citrus]

like belgium to germany

[flat gazelle]

all that for me ❤️

[simple citrus]

okay ur blocked

[sudden grotto]

volkskommisariats incoming

[hot patrol]

puppet master or annexation peep, this is the question

[sudden grotto]

liberation enjoyer

[flat gazelle]

italy tried to be like me 💔

wait

bruhhhh

[sudden grotto]

free real estate

[grizzled zenith]

First time I heard of that but I've never seen a mod like that

[flat gazelle]

benito mussolini is genuinely the worst person in history

i didnt cover maginot 💔

[fiery goblet]

Aw alr

[zinc light]

The hell happened
Did you deactivate historical Focus?

You should be way more terrified of Arabia

[grizzled zenith]

Tbh he wasn't even racist like Hitler

[simple citrus]

THE HISTORICAL FOCUS ACTUALLY IS A THING HERE?????????????????????

[flat gazelle]

💔

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[zinc light]

YES?!?

[simple citrus]

I THOUGHT IT WAS USELESS LIKE IN KAISERREICH

[flat gazelle]

thanks benito

[simple citrus]

OMG

[zinc light]

It has a set "intended" timeline

[simple citrus]

I FORGOT TO ACTIVATE IT

[flat gazelle]

that attack on yugoslavia was truly a good idea

[zinc light]

Bruhhh

[simple citrus]

omfg

[zenith charm]

💔 italy noo

[grizzled zenith]

LMFAO

[simple citrus]

some The Herald and The Beast shi

[barren depot]

pls gift la ressitance

[sharp sierra]

just buy it with your first paycheck

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-stare-gif-10183112911298969236

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-stare-gif-10183112911298969236

[split bane]

Tbf you can get rid of that button and for some reason KR just decides to keep it

[north spoke]

From what

Hoi4 players don't have j#bs

[simple citrus]

hahaha

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-stare-gif-10183112911298969236

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/wilhelm-wilhelm-ii-kaiserreich-kaiser-ww1-gif-13486702

[north spoke]

My bad. Forgot the fun police were in town

[safe wing]

I do

[north spoke]

Then you are a hoi4 enjoyer

[split bane]

I had one but that was seasonal work now I'm looking for another one

[simple citrus]

and you have audacity to call that abomination of a joke fun...

https://tenor.com/view/skrillex-electrocuted-electrocute-electrocution-bangarang-gif-11891465766745845470

[north spoke]

Chill out shakespeare

[frail bolt]

Czechoslovakian ai is trying to do the Munich disagreement

[north spoke]

No need to write a sonnet for me

[zinc light]

Thanks for censoring that, I get easily triggered by it