hoi4-general

[simple citrus]

the thing is - you would get either conscripted into the german army or killed for being a traitor of germany

[keen terrace]

How can anyone disagree with that

[bright arrow]

Yesterday there was a guy spamming videos of really dirty stuff and they are probably still up somewhere

[wanton whale]

Yeah I play WT

[safe wing]

Rome was built on War

[simple citrus]

god bless russian high command, thank god they're incompetent and greedy af

[keen terrace]

Says who

[lethal ether]

ion even wanna die for mine

[safe wing]

And they benefitted from it

[quiet vessel]

i'd say it was built on the ground

[keen terrace]

Real

[simple citrus]

me too twin

[quiet vessel]

i would

[lethal ether]

you dont understand im romanian

[keen terrace]

I’m not fighting for a piece land I wont even own

[wanton whale]

On God. I mean first 3 weeks into the invasion they were right outside of Kiev then all of a sudden they pulled back like 100 miles

[keen terrace]

I’m half turk half bosnak from origin

[wanton whale]

I'm not a Russian glazer btw 🙏

[simple citrus]

because they invaded ukraine at 4 am yk like... germans took stalingrad too yk yk

[quiet vessel]

sorry for your loss

[keen terrace]

Ethnicity doesn’t matter and it’s a social construct we made up

Scientifically there’s only one human race

[wanton whale]

Germans took 50% of Stalingrad. Not all of it

[quiet vessel]

boi it was a joke🥀

[keen terrace]

And that’s the human race

[simple citrus]

more

[wanton whale]

90%

[lethal ether]

i identify as andorran

[simple citrus]

less

[keen terrace]

We’re all human mate

[wanton whale]

75%

[quiet vessel]

ethnicity definitely matters. we shouldnt discriminate from it but it defines us.

[simple citrus]

more

[wanton whale]

80%

Yippee

[safe wing]

And you don’t live by this

[quiet vessel]

so do animal species not matter? they're all birds right

[bright arrow]

Some birds are more birdy than others

[quiet vessel]

chirp a lil mire

i acc have a parrot

such a cutie patootie

[simple citrus]

yay gneocide

[quiet vessel]

if ur volunteer force got encircled does it still die?

[safe wing]

You clearly don’t understand human history

[wanton whale]

I killed 7 million soviets and lost 200k Germans

[safe wing]

All 200,000 years of it

[wanton whale]

Humans were built on war

We need war to live and strive

[safe wing]

Exactly

[bright arrow]

Its not gneocide, pockets are forced to surrender, thereby saving lives

[quiet vessel]

'War... war never changes' ahh convo

[safe wing]

The causes never change the technology does

[quiet vessel]

ion think brotato chip got the reference😪

[safe wing]

I did

[wanton whale]

Nukes lead to nuclear reactors due to nuclear fission reactions. Jet engines were made rockets were made, hell, the cold war offered us computers and games, colorized TV

[simple citrus]

in the end it all was a war without reason

[safe wing]

1st Punic war has the goofiest start

[simple citrus]

i'm eating lemon caramels

[wanton whale]

Notices the second tensions dropped to peaceful tensions - where humanity isn't under stress to beat one another our progression of technology has slowed down

[quiet vessel]

gng im gon go see green day soon im so damn excited

i love green day

[wanton whale]

2nd Punic wars

[simple citrus]

someone wants to haee some

??

[simple citrus]

here

[brittle cypress]

yes your volunteers will die if they get encircled

if you're losing the war, the only way to get them not to die is to have them still be alive when the war ends

[safe wing]

1st one was where the mamertines basically took over a town and forced the Carthaginians and Romans into war

[wanton whale]

2nd was big beef then Roman clap back

[safe wing]

Yes

[simple citrus]

mamertines is a city in california

[wanton whale]

Americans

Washington is a city in the UK

[safe wing]

Mamertines were a group of Italian mercenaries in service of the King of Syracuse

[wanton whale]

York is a city in the UK

[safe wing]

Yes Eberorcum

Its old Roman name

[quiet vessel]

i live in it infact

[wanton whale]

Birmingham is s disgusting city in the UK

[zinc light]

Reading is the most boring City of the UK

[wanton whale]

I'm from Durham

[safe wing]

And Lincoln is a place in the Uk too

[simple citrus]

new is a city in dissolved kingdom

[quiet vessel]

its a tip

[wanton whale]

Yeah

[quiet vessel]

it feels amazing to see sheffield in hoi4

my old home city

[simple citrus]

wrexham is better

[wanton whale]

The UK is the 87th most free country right now

[quiet vessel]

Welcome to wrexham

[sudden thistle]

North Korea #1 rahhh!!! /s

[simple citrus]

i ate too much lemon caramels

i forgot they have mint in them too

my mouth and nose are cold now

wooo

[wanton whale]

Hear me out guys. Best city in the UK is... Devon

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-anime-gif-18161374

[wanton whale]

Trust

[quiet vessel]

the best city is rotherham trust me

[simple citrus]

that one bad guy from gta 5

[wanton whale]

Probably more free than the UK at the moment

[simple citrus]

rotherham is just rotterdam spelled by brits

[lethal ether]

the one with clifford?

[quiet vessel]

i really hope rotterdam isnt like rotherham

[wanton whale]

Nah Birmingham trust

[wanton whale]

Crezeh

[quiet vessel]

shetland islands

[lethal ether]

nah liverpool

[quiet vessel]

oops

[wanton whale]

Scouser

[wanton whale]

Falklands

[bright arrow]

Just killed 8 million russians to replace Stalin with Stalin

[wanton whale]

Stalin

[quiet vessel]

Maybe getting rid of Stalin was for the better...

[simple citrus]

Sralin

[lethal ether]

sri lankin

[quiet vessel]

when you try to play a minor nation but you realise you have no manpower so you jst kill ur whole family

[simple citrus]

seylong

[quiet vessel]

she said its seylong

[bright arrow]

Does NSB have a democratic russia path?

[brittle cypress]

no

[bright arrow]

Sadge

[simple citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213813265474265088/1400590767667281930/image0.gif

[bright arrow]

Missed potential

[quiet vessel]

i want a balkans dlc so bad

[wanton whale]

Burn it

[quiet vessel]

like romania and yugoslavia

[simple citrus]

would you call this cutie-patootie a clanker

[simple citrus]

and greece

[wanton whale]

It is a clanker

[simple citrus]

no

[wanton whale]

A bucket of bolts

[simple citrus]

it's so cute

[wanton whale]

Tin skin

[quiet vessel]

wire back

[wanton whale]

Screw muncher

[simple citrus]

how could you be so cruel

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-anime-gif-18161374

[wanton whale]

It isn't sentient

It isn't natural

[simple citrus]

it is

[quiet vessel]

sora ai🙏

[wanton whale]

It's manmade

[simple citrus]

it is

[simple citrus]

is it

it is

[wanton whale]

It isn't human

[simple citrus]

fine it's not

but it's humane

[wanton whale]

It's a robot

No

[simple citrus]

it got the spirit

[wanton whale]

It isn't human

[simple citrus]

i believe in it

[wanton whale]

It's in superior

[safe wing]

isn't Charlie Emily from the Fnaf novels revealed to be a robot replica

which makes her a clanker

[wanton whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102976131503763496/1345013864630190142/HD2_GOTDETENTION_GIF1x1.gif

[simple citrus]

i just bit the tip of my tongue off

it hurts

aa

[quiet vessel]

in different stages of the war how often did the moustache man strock it daily

[wanton whale]

Drink ze blood

[safe wing]

but she looks idetentical to humans due to technology

[wanton whale]

Good question

[simple citrus]

nvm i didn't i

[wanton whale]

Still a clanker

[simple citrus]

thank god

[safe wing]

true

[simple citrus]

but would you

[wanton whale]

Clanker = clanker

[safe wing]

but she is our clanker

she would make a good helldiver

[wanton whale]

Yes yes I would

[stuck grail]

yo guys

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mirage-ultrakill-gif-2477902773892345521

[quiet vessel]

gng what did i just get sent

[stuck grail]

how i can become better in the game

[simple citrus]

and what abt her

[quiet vessel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mXfT24LLnhw?si=JbDRxqTS4YidudJF

[wanton whale]

As long as they are loyal to democracy and have never had a thought of treason

[stuck grail]

i have 500h but i still lose alot

[clear dagger]

clanker? i hardly know 'er!

[safe wing]

she checks these boxes

[wanton whale]

Clanka

[wanton whale]

Then she can be a helldiver

[simple citrus]

i mean like smash or pass

[random delta]

i could capitulate tomorrow and no one would even go to the peace conference

[quiet vessel]

that should be on a loading screen

[wanton whale]

Pass, pass and pass again

[simple citrus]

why.

[quiet vessel]

ive got the disjointed government spirit💔

[wanton whale]

It's a robot with a camera as it's head and is made of metal

[simple citrus]

so

why wouldn't you

[wanton whale]

It isn't human

[simple citrus]

so

[wanton whale]

(if I were to say the uncensored reason I would be sent to banning)

[wanton whale]

So everything!!!

[simple citrus]

dm me that thing then

[quiet vessel]

it feels great to go to war with a rnadom ass country so papa stalin sends 20000 guns over

[random delta]

i have the tuff national spirit that gives me mustard factor: 6.7 and mango construction speed +41%

[wanton whale]

I went to war with the USSR so I can get guns from America

[simple citrus]

just type in the console research all and the guns are gonna flow like a river

[simple citrus]

@Adolf Hitler, december 4th, 1941

[random delta]

did i mention that it also gave Rommel a new tactic called sing the 67 song

it gives him a +15 division speed and +1 dvision attack

[dusky burrow]

It also makes him consume 20% more supply

[simple citrus]

Why the Third Reich was called German Empire

If it didn't have a monarch

It's an empire

Without an emperor

Why did Hitler name himself Fuhrer

Isn't it like boring

Ooooo president

Oooooo cooler president

Just crown yourself Emperor of the Germans

Germans fcuking despised Weimar Republic

Restoration of monarchy might've been pretty popular

Keep everything same

Just like

Get a cooler title

[opal nymph]

Guh

[simple citrus]

If your state is like

an Empire

Just crown yourself an Emperor

Lol

Oooo fuhrer ooo

[random delta]

21% actually

[near schooner]

attacking poland in 37 heheh

[simple citrus]

ew no großdeutschland

[honest vale]

just got my 3rd DLC because of the sale

im getting them in release order fr

i got man the guns coz it was free
i got gifted la resistance
and i have bought battle of the bosporus now

im gonna ask for no step back this christmas

BBA for my birthday

[near schooner]

ez

[honest vale]

you did what my friend couldnt, lemme find the screenshot

[opal nymph]

This is madness

[near schooner]

what year did he attack?

[honest vale]

1937

[near schooner]

but he lost?

[honest vale]

no, but it took him 4 years to win

[dusky burrow]

True

[dusky burrow]

horrid

[visual galleon]

so what did everyone get religious all of sudden? @everyone get tf on

[random delta]

its the sum of 9+10

[dusky burrow]

As long as they hold

CAS will help too

Let them bleed

[near schooner]

holy, 4 years is a lot

[gleaming iron]

all hail british raj hoi4 at 4 am

[zinc light]

I did it

[umbral agate]

is this enough for the uk?

[pallid zephyr]

operation market-garden fr

[sudden thistle]

Why are ur generals like that

[sudden thistle]

Nuke

[gleaming iron]

wdym

1 portfolio for 2 generals?

thats normal

[sudden thistle]

wtf do u mean portfolio

[gleaming iron]

then what

[pallid zephyr]

you fill up each general to 24 or 30 divisions till you get the next general??

[gleaming iron]

no

[pallid zephyr]

💀

[gleaming iron]

not my tactic

i am war

[opal nymph]

Uhh

[sudden thistle]

They are all 11/24 with another 13 divs without generals

[opal nymph]

War crimes?

[gleaming iron]

yeah

i need pure indian generals

[pallid zephyr]

but why

[sudden thistle]

Why 11/24

24/24???

30/30???

[gleaming iron]

slowly gonna make it 12

then 13

14

15

[pallid zephyr]

wait i think i know what he is doing

[gleaming iron]

then three more generals

[sudden thistle]

U do not play like a human

[pallid zephyr]

he is getting each general to the same amount of divisions then adding 1 division to each 😭

[gleaming iron]

yes

[pallid zephyr]

💀

[gleaming iron]

oh i am human

i just have a tactic im trying to apply

wait a second

why would ai do this?

if its not trained for this?

[pallid zephyr]

bro thinks AI is smart 😭

[sudden thistle]

AI is stupid af

[gleaming iron]

so im an alien

great

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[pallid zephyr]

real

[gleaming iron]

anyways imma go now

its 4 15 am

i need sleep man

[pallid zephyr]

this has to be a troll right

[gleaming iron]

no

i am from one of the countries from british raj

[pallid zephyr]

bro uses edge 🙏

[gleaming iron]

and will always play as british raj

[gleaming iron]

i like it

[opal nymph]

Reichspakt Bros, it is so over

[icy crescent]

Nobody likes YT ads.

[pallid zephyr]

murder em all

[gleaming iron]

i like macrohard corner

nvm imma go now

[icy crescent]

Nice joke.
But ads still bad.

[dusky burrow]

Division template?

(answer's honestly probably yes)

[pallid zephyr]

rip german tonks

[pallid zephyr]

damn 550k manpower

[robust spruce]

Bro road to 56 mod only expands to 1956

That’s only 11 years after ww2 supposedly rnds

[pallid zephyr]

the lag must be crazy right

[vapid oasis]

evening folks, Gonna try out one of them alt history paths vs historical AI, which one should I do tonight?

[honest vale]

guys which base-game airplane bomber can carry nukes? Strat bomber or inter-war bomber

[pallid zephyr]

strat bomber i think

[vapid oasis]

Which alt historical path should I do tonight? Got all the dlc

[pallid zephyr]

trostky ussr

[vapid oasis]

ehhh idk

ussr is too big for my skill issue

[pallid zephyr]

hm ok

[vapid oasis]

only have 268.2 hours

[pallid zephyr]

kaiser germany?

[vapid oasis]

I can try that, haven't done it since the update

[pallid zephyr]

ok

maybe try get women in the high castle thing

[vapid oasis]

plus I can post pictures of it without having to worry about the historical germany flag as part of my modded graphics pack

[pallid zephyr]

🔥

[pallid zephyr]

what mod is it

[honest glacier]

can someone explain why pakistan got this state when they got released

they even have a core on it too

[heavy vigil]

map mod issue

[vapid oasis]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3139693323

The kaiser would reallllly love a navy, but idk if we wanna risk a navy coup

screw it, the less of the navy we lose the better

[pallid zephyr]

you must destroy the bri'ish fleet

[umbral perch]

I tried to revolt and revive the keiserreich and failed because the facists kept pound one spot with their whole army

[near schooner]

not even 1940

[dusky burrow]

Now turn communist

[opal nymph]

Finally

[umbral perch]

What map mod is that?

[near schooner]

tno map mod

[umbral perch]

I like it thanks

[vapid oasis]

could've swore this was histroical ai, do the british normally decolonize now?

[wet plover]

Is NATO coming guys I can’t tell

[pallid zephyr]

maybe

[worn coral]

bri'ish classic

ignore logistics

[pallid zephyr]

build more trucks and trains bro 🥀

[dusky burrow]

^

if bombed then armored trains

[tardy marten]

AI don't want to engage my main fleet

They just parking at the port

[pallid zephyr]

naval bomber then

[vapid oasis]

god this civil war sucks, should've scrapped the entire army before we started it

[tardy marten]

German civil war already scripted

Right?

[vapid oasis]

playing it myself, but it's not an easy win

kinda battleplanning my way through it all things considered

screw this, I lost all my ports and im supposed to keep the navy happy

seriously, can you not battleplan the civil war anymore?

[pallid zephyr]

chat died 🥀

[bright arrow]

rate my Austrian Empire, no one died, only threats were made

[terse granite]

Question, how fun is an Austro Hungry Campaign? I never tried them, if I wanted to play small nation become major I always just play Sweden so

[opal nymph]

I'm done for today

[terse granite]

[opal nymph]

Also Ottomans some how are winners in this new world order

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[brittle cypress]

nice border with the soviets

unless they're a puppet

i like the larp

[near schooner]

im attacking them now, they had a civil war and i just invaded the other soviets

[vapid oasis]

Yes, I have le skill issue

[pallid zephyr]

same

[vapid oasis]

might just go back to playing commonwealth nonesense

[wet plover]

The Alliance where the sun never sets

[vapid oasis]

im starting to think that whole civil war triggered a glitch in the british ai

because they usually don't hit the decolonization button in historical ai games

[pallid zephyr]

they probably started spamming building ships

[vapid oasis]

Anyways, methinks I'd play brazil, try to get snakes on a plane or smth

helping out the allies doesn't get fun anyways until mid war

[pallid zephyr]

d-day as brazil

[brisk veldt]

would paradox be done milking hoi4 and move on

or nah

[vapid oasis]

they're finally working on eu5, only a matter of time before hoi5

[pallid zephyr]

noo not hoi5 all my money would have been wasted 🥀

[vapid oasis]

bet you hoi5 will have the same cringe war system as victoria 3

like how they're doing it with eu5

anyways, having a nice cozy time as brazil, sure hope nothing bad is happening behind the scenes

[near schooner]

i forgot to do collab government

[brisk veldt]

real

[vapid oasis]

gonna have to restart tho, military coup'd a bit because i got the math wrong and thought i can squeeze three 35 day ops

and that estado novo would delay it

at least i didnt get a civil war, but still

[bright arrow]

Germany has failed to break us, but they arent really trying tho, my fear is that Italy and the Soviets may flank us

[heavy vigil]

i got a mod to make modern tanks better and its so good :3

[wet plover]

Wait so, communist China is supposed to go to war with China again right?

[bright arrow]

yes

[wet plover]

When is that cause it’s been like a year since the war ended and nth has happened

[bright arrow]

Idk, but you can just leave the faction if you are at peace

Both of you get war goals on eachother when you proclaim the 1 china policy

[wet plover]

Oh im the US

I was planning on intervening and killing CC for, democratic China.

[bright arrow]

Oh, the ai surrounding China is weird

Its the first dlc

Thats why we getting a new one in a month

[hallow briar]

ive been feeding china (as US) convoys and they seem to be hanging on a lot longer than they usually do

[bright arrow]

Aren't both Chinas in the United front?

[sonic sand]

depends who you play as. Hungary is pain but very rewarding austria is pointless and super easy to do

[bright arrow]

Yeah Austria was insanely easy, and i chose the harder path which is the one you ask for territory but get no cores

[sonic sand]

which is why i play hungary

you basically are in a constant fight for approval and survival from all the nations around you

you have no navy

can't buy guns from anyone

[bright arrow]

Commie Hungary must be fun

[sonic sand]

can't have manpower.

[sonic sand]

hell.

actual

living

hell

[bright arrow]

You can make the Hunger Games Nation

[split bane]

Since Hoi4 is a war game first and foremost, I don't think PDX can realistically justify a mega simplification of the war system

[sonic sand]

(german reich) is justifying a wargoal against us (kingdom of italy) is justifying a wargoal against us (romania) is justifying a wargoal against us

[bright arrow]

Probably one of the cases where choosing alt Histoty is a good thing

But my beef with Alt history is how much the game derails into insanity

Horrible for Ironman

[sonic sand]

the most fun i have ever had playing hoi4 is non aligned

hungary

i mean

otto path only because all the other paths are STUPID

[green magnet]

im somehow winning?

[sonic sand]

this is

2 hobos

fighting with knifes

on the street over the last bench

[green magnet]

lmao

[sonic sand]

i mean am i wrong?

[split sable]

as ussr how do i avoiud war support dropping below 50?

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[split sable]

so the whole "spain attache thing" is mostly waste of pp?

cuz you win like 5% consumer goods for some time but later need to demobilize economy

[sonic sand]

you fighting in spain?

[split sable]

by spending pp again

Yes, sending volounteers

[sonic sand]

not a waste

[bright arrow]

Is that the take spanish gold thing?

[split sable]

but there any benefit in going war economy early then? I assume not really?

Cuz I cant seem to find a way to keep support above 50%

[lapis snow]

if your ws is dropping below 50% after attache then you're losing it to something else

you shouldn't be losing ws basically ever until you go to war

[bright arrow]

Probably all the purges going on

[lapis snow]

the purges dont lose you ws

only the crappy trap focus does

[sonic sand]

you should get a decision to turn a war into a patriotic war

when defending

[split sable]

Probably cuz I recalled the attache duh

didnt realize boost is temporary

while attache is there

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444

[lapis snow]

its only until that war is over or you recall. You can send to china if the scw ends early

take the focuses to boost stab or hire kalinin and that'll help too

[split sable]

ok, understood, thank you

[lapis snow]

you need war eco as the sovs

or you'll never have enough factories to dominate the germans properly

[split sable]

how many factories approximately should I have before the war?

[sonic sand]

i think there should be some buffs for the white russians for barbarossa

because like

[lapis snow]

at least 250

[sonic sand]

its so hard to do

[split sable]

Last time I was keeping germans at bay eaisly (they couldnt get any ground) but I started running out of equipment

[dry locust]

well ive been looking with what to increase width

[sonic sand]

those stats tho...

[lapis snow]

why post garrison?

[dry locust]

30 for 1940 is the ideal, just dont know with what to add

[split sable]

are you trying to win tour de france?

[dry locust]

366 soft lol

[sonic sand]

maybe

[lapis snow]

who told you that?

[dry locust]

asked on another mod server

[sonic sand]

72 org

[dry locust]

i mean is the division template ok for 1940? or total doodoo?

[sonic sand]

1.1k def

[lapis snow]

assuming KR has vanilla combat like it used to, you want the same or similar div comp to vanilla

which is not 30

[dry locust]

if only france deployed the bike boys

[lapis snow]

line arty is balls, especially by the 40s

[sonic sand]

imagine sitting on a level 7 fort

[dry locust]

pretty sure kaiserreich has vanilla combat

[sonic sand]

with 255 thousand other bikers

[dry locust]

but yeah, 500 hours and i still suck poop

i was told to get a higher width

but not with what

or i could add SP artillery

but yeah that could cost some time to build

[lapis snow]

understanding mechanics and stats > hours played. Lots of "veterans" who suck and vice versa

[lapis snow]

For attack the ideal is 36 or as close as you can get it. For defence you want smaller, 12-18

[dusky burrow]

Garrison be like

Perhaps good if you don't have steel

[dry locust]

one strat i have is if im sharing a landborder with someone im at war with and we have roughly the same army size, i let them try to attack, burn them out and then go on the offensive

[dry locust]

should i add infantry, art, or something else?

[sonic sand]

but what if

it wasn't

a garrison template

what if

you put

5 of them

on a a few tiles

with like level 7 forts

[lapis snow]

not line arty, or any of the line guns really. Inf is defensive. Tanks+mech or special forces are offensive

[dusky burrow]

18 bicycles in division + flame tanks + assault engineers + hospitals + artillery + mountain rangers

[dry locust]

thats what i was thinking

[dusky burrow]

That would be an offensive bicycle division

[dry locust]

so if i get more tanks (light and med), should be better

[sonic sand]

if I see. 225 thousand bikers i would be turning around and marching the other way I DO NOT CARE.

[lapis snow]

lights fall off by 40

[dusky burrow]

Technically it would work but it has less stats than mass mob infantry

[lapis snow]

just use meds

[dry locust]

its just i dont want my infantry getting ran over by the ennemy while i get the tank

[dusky burrow]

And speaking of 40, never go above 40 combat width

Never be at 40 combat width

[sonic sand]

life lessons for the terminally online

never be at 40 combat width irl either.

you can't fit through the door tile

[dusky burrow]

True

Pretty much

[sonic sand]

and your max speed is 0.1 km/h

[dusky burrow]

The only time when more than or equal to 40 combat width makes sense is if your world has no forests or you're doing a 1 division challenge

[sonic sand]

1 division challenge?

as in

one division template

or

[dry locust]

this good or nah

[sonic sand]

just one division

[dusky burrow]

That's motorized right?

[sonic sand]

hoi4 irl mod should make it so people get a debuff if they're over 40 combat width going on a chair tile.

[dusky burrow]

One literal division

[dusky burrow]

You should be using mechanized in 1940

[sonic sand]

i cannot read lines

[sonic sand]

thats hellll

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-productive-gif-3572549

[dry locust]

med tank and motorised inf (main focus being med tanks for offensive)

[lapis snow]

I smell a poopy tank design

[dusky burrow]

Also as said your tank divisions should ideally be at least 32 width

Also your tanks are bad

You basically have infantry stats

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/tennis-tank-gif-26231282

[remote quarry]

wtf

[dry locust]

i know i suck

[remote quarry]

pls do your reconstruction focuses

[dry locust]

thank god i didnt save and loose exp

[remote quarry]

so you are not -19% stab

stop thinking about templates

[dusky burrow]

what a bad sport

[remote quarry]

you are just not gonna have any tank...

[remote quarry]

do all the focus that give you 10% stab 10% war support

[dry locust]

this better? (ignore the tank config)

[remote quarry]

so you can at least go up mobilization law

[remote quarry]

it doesn't matter, it's all really bad

[dusky burrow]

What does your tank design even look like

[remote quarry]

because you are using a default tank design

[dusky burrow]

Not division

[green magnet]

if a nation experiences too any losses will they surrender?

[dusky burrow]

no, unfortunately

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-25832437

[sharp sierra]

maybe fortunately for us

[sonic sand]

my tank divisions in a forest.

[sonic sand]

my eyes.

[dry locust]

i cant be the worse player

[sharp sierra]

play optimally or die!!!!!!!!!!

[dry locust]

its why im asking questions

[shut gazelle]

what are these war tactics😭

[dry locust]

and why im playing as the usa

[sonic sand]

the german empire has taken paris

the french are approaching berlin

[dry locust]

so what should i change?

[shut gazelle]

true but

[sonic sand]

brother i know.\

[shut gazelle]

the french are blitzkrieging the blitzkrieg

[sonic sand]

i saw the capital moved

[sonic sand]

yes

[dusky burrow]

two hmg turrets

[sonic sand]

seems legit

[shut gazelle]

👍

[shut gazelle]

I invaded brazil like june 1936

and won bc I went around with a horse

[sonic sand]

its also senior hilter

[dry locust]

u mean to add 2 heavy machine guns?

[shut gazelle]

true

I am scared for the americans

[sonic sand]

speaking

the best way to invade america

is going to brazil

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-hyde-mde-smile-deadpool-gif-13314307595310069718

[sonic sand]

and fighting your way up

[green magnet]

can someone help me end this?

[remote quarry]

the most important thing for you to do right now is to fix your nation, which involves

• doing reconstruction focus and get more war support/stability
• going higher on mobilization law once you have enough war support
• build military factory so you would actually have something to work with in the first place

[shut gazelle]

that aint the best way🙏

south america is a supply hell hole

[sonic sand]

if you haven't

[dry locust]

thank god ive been doing that as well

[sonic sand]

got a big navy

i mean

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/lactofermentation-cant-gif-27492579

[shut gazelle]

invade them from greenland

[dry locust]

just gotta intensify my factory buildinbg

[sonic sand]

or just

invade through brazil

[remote quarry]

you are on civ eco right now because of the war support:(

[dry locust]

this better?

[sonic sand]

and not needing to deal with the american navy

[remote quarry]

if you can micro perhaps, but best to just not play this nation

[remote quarry]

it involves either encircling their divisions on the east where there's no supply

or letting them walk into a port

and repeatedly port meming them

[dusky burrow]

Also what gun research do you have

[shut gazelle]

zthe zgermans und zthe russians havze ein alliancez

[dry locust]

as in?

[sonic sand]

surely nothing bad will ever come of this.

[green magnet]

trying my hardest for an encircle on the top right, but i cant due to negative air sup bc i only have 5 p36a's from the market 💔

[shut gazelle]

deff not

[sonic sand]

surely the germans won't betray their ally

I would love a rework to how alliances interact with eaachother

[viscid coyote]

Hi guys

Is there any good multiplayer games rn?

Playing as the German empire against the Comintern is boring

[sonic sand]

play hungary

nonaligned instead

nonaligned and invite otto to the throne

[warped flint]

Heres how my current game is going

[remote quarry]

well there's not much reason to play this nation in the first place

[sonic sand]

how have you played no hours

[sudden thistle]

please dont tell me u didnt day 1 declare on the UK

😔

[sonic sand]

oh wow the invite link is speaking

[warped flint]

I just haven't played 1 hour yet

[warped flint]

Pretty much did yeah

[sudden thistle]

join the server in my name btw

its peak

[sonic sand]

propaganda

[warped flint]

Invading the US

[sonic sand]

has anyone noticed

the historical

nothing ever happens during the interwar period.

[sonic sand]

you got incircled

[warped flint]

Yeah thats fine

they don't have enough men to hold the front

[warped flint]

Also i didn't wanna fight the UK early, I just wanted to invade Poland but the UK was a loser and guranteed them

[sonic sand]

i love my hearts of iron hitler takes over everything game

[warped flint]

USA just capped

70 guns

i am to op now

those 70 guns will win me the game

[fair horizon]

can democratic britian get winston churchill as the chief of the navy?

[shut gazelle]

why the hell does el salvador have 19 divisions

[tardy marten]

1 carrier screen by 1 big ship
1 big ship screen by 3 small ships ?

[fair horizon]

3-4, losing ships like destroyers can make you lose enough screening efficiency to have your capital ship die

[tardy marten]

aw hell naw he lost entire navy fleets

[fair horizon]

also dont forget the carrier needs 3 screens as well

i like to do 3 cruisers per capital and a handful of destroyers for the fleet

[tardy marten]

4 carriers and many big ships for few of my naval bombers

carriers so good

[fair horizon]

its the reason battleships were phased out

[tardy marten]

i think he lost most of his navy now

[sonic sand]

Fun things about hoi4 navy

The enemy has 10000 ships it can use whenever it wants

[tardy marten]

thats good

i like sea battles

but they just ran away from my fleet, kinda annoying

[random snow]

cas is goated

Illegal no funny yes

[dark geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966769737419882576/1424584257572966520/makesweet-ss73m3.gif

[lavish basalt]

Typical iron assault small nation like 2 turns after they get a city

[tardy marten]

he said he cannot defeat usa at long run, he meant mexico

[viscid coyote]

Guys

Did we hurt Russia too much?

[tardy marten]

my buddy convoi sink into the bottom of the sea,

[viscid coyote]

Oof

[tardy marten]

trully a tragedy there, but thousand japanese sailors is just statistics

[viscid coyote]

Mmmm, your right

But I value my German men

We’re the German empire after all

But did I do Russia too dirty?

[opaque abyss]

🔥

[pallid zephyr]

over 50 divisions encircled ❤️

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/damndaniel-white-vans-dam-gif-5103576

[random snow]

thats not a bad deal tbh

it takes like 2 months per destroyer vs like 2 years for battleships/cruisers

[dusky burrow]

I mean artillery sorry

[dry locust]

It’s currently research at the one after the second gun (It’ll be a while before I can show im in bed rn)

[dusky burrow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[jovial carbon]

czechslovakia facist cheese be like:

i just cored all of this 😭

[opal nymph]

When you tag switch to Slovakia:

[jovial carbon]

just release ukraine

then release slovakia

and make sure to build one mil in that province

[opal nymph]

Hol up. Ukraine can release Slovakia, but Czechoslovakia cant...

[jovial carbon]

yes

[opal nymph]

How did you release ukraine

Because that requires going Trotsky

[jovial carbon]

by cheesing france

do facist path

then do civil war and declare on china and all other countries and cheese the guarantees of britan

[opal nymph]

So i assume you got Ukraine from Poland then

That makes sense

[jovial carbon]

yes

[jovial carbon]

then declare war on lebanon

paratroop france with the trash paratroopers

[opal nymph]

Less world tension that way

[heavy vigil]

Hi jonathan :D

[jovial carbon]

and then u get bohemian empire

release ukraine

release slovakia

[opal nymph]

Howdy

[jovial carbon]

join germany faction

cores everywher

and of course declare war on ukraine and czeckslovakia before

[random needle]

First time doing soviets

I Merced Poland and Germany

But they naval invaded Leningrad

Manchuria and Britain are cooking my east

But I’m wining

Cuz I ganged up on them😼

Also got some achievements

[honest vale]

Guys what are some good paths/achievements i should do? My DLC’s are

Man the Guns
La Resistance
Battle for the Bosporus

Dont give me hard achievements

😅

[craggy trail]

You could probably go for an American civil war

History Repeated Itself where you defeat the south again
To Arms In Dixie! start the civil war as the south

Napoleon playthrough is a lot of fun
Second Time's The Charm: Take moscow with Napoleon VI as leader

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[random needle]

I can’t push back the Germans in Leningrad

They got the port

😿

[dusky burrow]

Noooooooooooooo

[median gull]

So what’s the best DLC? If I were to only get one this sale?

[random needle]

Hmmmmm

What country do you play a lot

Or wnat to play

[median gull]

Honestly? I hit random

[random needle]

Nice

Man the guns is free

so get that while it is

[median gull]

Yea I got that last sale. So of course it’s free this one

[craggy trail]

What DLCs do you currently have apart from MTG?

[median gull]

That’s it

[craggy trail]

Ah, then your first option would be No Step Back

It's generally one of the first DLCs that players usually buy for the tank designer

[median gull]

I got the pass but it expired. And frankly trying to learn all the DLC at once in an already complex system is a bit overwhelming

[craggy trail]

Not only that, but it's officer corps as well

Soviet Union Rework

By Blood Alone, Arms Against Tyranny, Gotterdamerung, La Resistance

[random needle]

I’d recommend no step back, it was my first and the tank designer is a nice way of easing you into the designing of weapons for others

But by blood alone gives good focuses aswell as airplane designer

[misty fossil]

my honest recommendation is to not bother with achievements

the reason is its simply not fun since you have to do ironman

922 hours and i have this many achievements

trust me not achievement hunting is much better

[median gull]

We’ll time to buy dlc for 2 of my games plus add some games to my pile of shame

[misty fossil]

real

[craggy trail]

Tomrrow the sale ends at 10 AM US PDT

[misty fossil]

what is this

[craggy trail]

So you have some time to dream it over during the night and see which DLC you like having the most

[misty fossil]

id buy all the dlcs except for goe

not sure about the season pass but if you want to buy that then do it when its discounted

[median gull]

I am considering just buying the 3 month dlc rental for 15 bucks

[misty fossil]

rentals suck unless you dont own the base game

for this specific game i say it is much better to outright purchase the whole thing if you know what you're doing and wish to invest time into this game

id only recommend renting to completely new people who dont own the base game

[median gull]

Even if all the dlc combined is well over 100 bucks?

[misty fossil]

wait for a sale...?

arent the dlcs on sale right now

i feel like hoi4 is a game you either go all in on DLCs or simply not purchase the game at all

base game isnt worth the money

its the DLCs that justifies the purchase

[craggy trail]

They're on sale right now until tomorrow

[misty fossil]

but they said all the dlcs still cost 100 dollars

[craggy trail]

Most DLCs are 30% off original price

[median gull]

Well 85

And do I really need the country packs if I haven’t even played as most major or interesting nations yet?

[trim pike]

No

Only the dlcs

[craggy trail]

LaR: 50% at $10
BftB: 50% at $5
NSB: 30% at $14
BBA: 30% at $14
AAT: 30% at $14
ToA: 30% at $10.50
GoD: 20% at $20
GoE: 20% at $12

[split bane]

You don't need them unless you want to play those nations

[trim pike]

Get everything but bftb toa goe and god

[gusty oracle]

god?

[craggy trail]

Gotterdamerung

[gusty oracle]

i see

[trim pike]

Theres so many names for it

God

Gdg

Wuw

Gdr

[craggy trail]

I call it GoD, some people call it GOR or GOE

[cunning sorrel]

arguably graveyard of empires and trial of allegiance are not worth it then

[gusty oracle]

I use gdr

[trim pike]

Gor

[cunning sorrel]

they dont add any major mechanics

[trim pike]

It cant be goe

[craggy trail]

GotterdamErung

[median gull]

Ok so is there anything of note on trial of allegiances, battle of bosphorous, or graveyard of empires? Or can I just hold off on them till I wanna play those countries!

[craggy trail]

But the majority for Gotterdamerung is GoD

or GDR

[craggy trail]

All are country packs with no new game mechanics

They are thus flavor mods for other countries

Argentina, Brazil and Chile for ToA

Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey for BftB

British Raj, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq for GoE

[cunning sorrel]

i think the battle of bosphorus turkey tree causes it to go off the rails as ai after ww2

they usually cause ww3

[craggy trail]

Paradox has been integrating older DLCs since Trial of Allegiance

[cunning sorrel]

they wont give out that many more

i don’t think at least

[craggy trail]

I have my hopes for No Compromise No Surrender

Even though I'm pretty skeptical regarding the doctrine rework

[median gull]

Great how much more am I gonna spend on DLCs once I start playing EU4 and Victoria 3?

[cunning sorrel]

eu5 is out soon too

[craggy trail]

Thunder at the Gates

[median gull]

EU4 is in my pile of shame

[random needle]

I PUSHED THE GERMANS OUT

NO MORE GERMANY EXIST (mainland capitulated in 1939)

[cunning sorrel]

it is VERY hard to learn

[craggy trail]

Peace in our time should have been a UK rework honestly

Unless we're getting something better in quarter 3 and 4th quarter

[median gull]

Also in my pile of shame is Vitoria 3, Stellaris, Anno 1800, Dwarf Fortress, Distant Worlds 2, and Timberborn

[craggy trail]

City Skylines

[median gull]

Also in it

[cunning sorrel]

im not gonna lie i dont have that much faith in the dlc

literally a loc error in one of the five screenshots for it lmao

[craggy trail]

That's part of NCNS

Peace in Our time is a Czehoslovakia rework

[cunning sorrel]

yeah which is set to release in like a month

[cunning sorrel]

wasnt referring to it tho

[median gull]

Well to be fair they are still probably working on it

[cunning sorrel]

usually you expect a promo screenshot to be of a finished portion of their work

[median gull]

Speaking of steam sale and all these options we have now anyone remember the days when looking for a new game meant going to Best Buy and seeing if there was a new title on all of the 4 strategy games they had on the self?

[craggy trail]

Toys r Us

I gotta continue flushing out some new things for my EaW playset

[random needle]

I hope we get a Balkan revamp (Czechs Yugoslav Romania) Central America and some other stuff

Maybe even reworks to the dominions

[median gull]

So changing gears. I know Paradox is a major player in the industry but how do they compare against companies like Sony, Bethesda, and Blizzard etc?

[marsh ravine]

what is ts

[craggy trail]

Blimp

[marsh ravine]

whts the modules tho

[craggy trail]

Heavy rocket propelled bombs, Homing anti ship missile, the best torpedoes available

[marsh ravine]

💀

[craggy trail]

Fully computerised bombsight, Air to ground radar IV, VHF omnidirectional range

[marsh ravine]

bruh

ts has to be a mod right?

[craggy trail]

Electronic Countermeasure system and chaff rockets

[craggy trail]

Yes

[cunning sorrel]

theyre the equestria at war starting planes

the designer for them might be a mod tho?? idk it’s been a hot minute since ive played

[craggy trail]

EaW has plently of cold war tech for late game

all thanks to our friends at Road to 56 and Extended Tech Tree 1960

Late game doctrines included

[dusky burrow]

blimp hull lmao

while also using guided missiles

[craggy trail]

There are some other mods that makes a complete overhaul for EaW's tech

[frank igloo]

HOW DID YOU GET THIS WHAT

oh its a dev screenshot

[craggy trail]

I do like that you can make flame tank and amphibious versions of the MBT unlike vanilla

[frank igloo]

also this looks kind of barebones

ngl

that sucks

its not as dense as like

germany or italy it looks like

or even the USSR

im going to be really pissed if I don’t get gotterdamerung quality focus trees for china

[frank igloo]

also why did they call opium special goods and not just opium

[desert pollen]

have some fait the dlc isn't due for another like 2 months

[pallid zephyr]

i finally got it after 11 tries

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[indigo violet]

How do you get that again? I know you need the romanov lady and then invade iran or smth

[pallid zephyr]

no you dont need the lady

you have to take some stuff in iran

and uh

[tiny iris]

wemknclkcbn

Hello

[pallid zephyr]

have units in italy

[tiny iris]

Ibaly

[pallid zephyr]

thats about it i think

[desert pollen]

@craggy trail as a member of a controversial community, do you ever wonder why specific communties like mlp or perhaps others such as helluva boss garner per capita more controversial figures than other communities

[indigo violet]

I‘m pretty sure the romanov is part of the plan no?

[pallid zephyr]

no i got it with the hasburg guy

[indigo violet]

._.

[tiny iris]

How tf is mlp controversial?

[desert pollen]

the show isn't the community is

[tiny iris]

He never said to be a part of the community

[desert pollen]

nobody going around with a profile picture and banner of something and isn't part of a community

[tiny iris]

He may just be a fan.

You don't need to be a part of something to like it.

[desert pollen]

but your more likely to be apart of something hat you like

they may have an answer for my question

they may not

[tiny iris]

Not if the community is toxic

[desert pollen]

we shalt see

[indigo violet]

This some weird hoi4 topic ngl

[desert pollen]

mlp hoi4 mod

fr

fr

[tiny iris]

Kaiserreich best mod

[indigo violet]

Fr

[tiny iris]

I love Kaiserreich

[desert pollen]

repeat this again kaiser

[tiny iris]

Kaiserreich best mod in the universe

[desert pollen]

this kaiser is a redux

[indigo violet]

Kaiserreich ist die beste Spielmodifikation in Herzen aus Eisen 4

[desert pollen]

this reference is to niche for you

disregard

[uneven portal]

world war 1.5

[indigo violet]

Literally the Great War 2 electric bugaloo

[tiny iris]

Greece should be in the allies

njkdbkcfb

[indigo violet]

Only inaccuracy is the soviet onion but eh

[tiny iris]

Not historically accurate

[indigo violet]

That too

[uneven portal]

i wasnt trying to redo it

its so off

[indigo violet]

Shhhh

[uneven portal]

look at my borders

turkiye has nothing

[indigo violet]

Why you attacking switzerland tho

[uneven portal]

wasnt me

im turkey

[indigo violet]

Ohh

[uneven portal]

the thing is..

greece is fighting the allies

[tiny iris]

Not historically accurate

[uneven portal]

I WASNT TRYING TO MAKE WW1

[tiny iris]

😭

[uneven portal]

i dont think frace was fascist in ww1 were they

"frace"

[rose prawn]

Action France

[tiny iris]

Frace didn't exist

[uneven portal]

the finnish soviet war still happened

[rose prawn]

King actually wanted to join central powers

[uneven portal]

bro what the hell is wrong with these guys

im gonna spectator

i want to see how this plays out

[dusky burrow]

Nice

[uneven portal]

french border is a standstill

[tardy marten]

when german is soft belly than italy

sending bom, i mean freedom and democracy to italians

[uneven portal]

battle of paris!!!

[gilded pike]

u playing allies mexico?

[gilded pike]

not even france defending it

[uneven portal]

its the italians 😭

[gilded pike]

yh

[uneven portal]

these traitors

italy is so screwed

[slow nova]

hello i'm new

someone want to play with me???

[gilded pike]

u mean new on the server?

[slow nova]

yes, I play hoi4 for months

[gilded pike]

how many hours?

[slow nova]

269.4

it's good no????

[gilded pike]

good for months

[slow nova]

ok

so do you want to play with me??

[gilded pike]

im not at home

[slow nova]

ok