hoi4-general

[slim nexus]

Mines at the start of November 💔

Honestly for the next hoi game (let me be delusional I know it will never happen) I hope they do what they did with ck3 and let you get achievements with mods

[serene token]

What's a great map strategy game besides Hoi4?

[robust spruce]

Idek how to play ck3

[slim nexus]

Same

I have 7 hours and like 26 achievements

Honestly Im excited for it’s Asia dlc too tbh

[digital aurora]

I just realized i locked my self out of a focus for the German communist tree, i decided to Prioritise Economic Growth instead of going 4 Year plan so that means i can't do volkswerke, but im not very good so i feel like economic growth is better

[robust spruce]

HOI3 was the first paradox game I touched

It was 2011

[safe wing]

You think I should join Germany as Italy or steal Austria via Italy first

[robust spruce]

I was 11 years old when I touched hoi3

[safe wing]

Hoi4 was the first paradox game I touched and that was because I was obsessed with history

before then I played alot historical video games like Age of Empires and Total War

[slim nexus]

I grew up on hoi3

[robust spruce]

I was too

I was learning about the thirty years in 2010 and 2012

[safe wing]

I grew up on Total War and Age of Empires

[robust spruce]

And ww2 and ww1

[safe wing]

I remember getting the Rise of Rome expansion

for Age of Empires

[slim nexus]

Fair

I rarely played games as a child tbh

[robust spruce]

I’m a paradox glazer

I’ve played almost every game since 2013

I got hoi4 in 2017 and enjoyed it

[slim nexus]

Dang

[fair horizon]

you ever play AOM?

[safe wing]

no but I plan on it someday

[slim nexus]

I’m from an obscure Chinese town so we didn’t really have games 😭

It has a Wikipedia page for some reason

[fair horizon]

i bet you'd like it if you were a fan of AOE

[buoyant flume]

hi

[slim nexus]

hi

[buoyant flume]

HRU

oop cap lock

[slim nexus]

Tired

It’s like

8 am

Hru tho

[buoyant flume]

same tires its 1:20 am

waitng for a vid to upload

[slim nexus]

British?

[buoyant flume]

ye

[slim nexus]

yeah I thought so

I knew England was like 7 hours behind me

[buoyant flume]

ok

utc 0 imo best time

cause its easy to meet anyone online

[bright arrow]

the final struggle

[brittle sorrel]

i turnt germany into half prussia lol

[sonic sand]

whats the difference between kaiserreich and kasierreich redux?

[brittle sorrel]

redux is more radical and kaiserreich is more realistic

[sonic sand]

ok

i have 150 hours which one should I go?

[brittle sorrel]

hmm

i wouldve first play kaiserreich because kaiserredux is a sub mob of kaiserreich

[sonic sand]

alright

[fair horizon]

i think im gonna be sick 🤮

[brittle sorrel]

the border gore is disgusting but its all just cleanup

[trail beacon]

all roads lead to rome

[sonic sand]

🤓 ☝️ erm those are railways not roads

[trail beacon]

they use the same track width as roman railcarts

[sonic sand]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444

[digital aurora]

100 destroyers jesus christ

[sonic sand]

me when navy is naval.

[digital aurora]

I didn't expect plan Z to call for 100 destroyers, i did expect a large amount of ships but 100 destroyers jesus

[sonic sand]

or you could just

not.

[fair horizon]

thats not that bad, destroyers are meant to be cheap garabge literally 1 engine and a gun. slightly more expensive than a sub

[trail beacon]

LOL

[sonic sand]

first time?

[trail beacon]

ignored 💅🏻

[runic spoke]

????

[feral lark]

sooo if i'm trying to play mapuche chile and the allies declared against me, am i just screwed or is there anything i can try to do to not get just immediately eaten?

[fair horizon]

wym? they shouldnt be able to naval invade you

you got a fleet right?

[feral lark]

bro, i barely have iron

[fair horizon]

you're chile?

you literally have over half of SA

's iron

[fair horizon]

bro 💀

RIP chile

[feral lark]

okay, so, what i'm intuiting is that i needed to be way more aggressive in the early-game

[fair horizon]

you should take argentina asap so you can get their fleet, then id say go for brazil

or uruguay

[feral lark]

i might have blown up all of argentina's fleet

reguardless, they don't exist anymore

[fair horizon]

why even fight it?

also they would have won against chile's base fleet tbh

[feral lark]

nav bombers

[modest coyote]

what is the soviet union doing bro

[mortal harness]

They’re getting started early

[sonic sand]

?

its a meme?

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[sage plover]

ello lads

[rare ingot]

oh wow italy naval invading me, sweeden with camel

[halcyon scroll]

Easternshowdown

that a mod. idk

A well made one

[rain quail]

Allitle late

L mods

[near schooner]

this song is the best thing in this game

[violet veldt]

ngl I hate how the only two anarchist paths are on some of the arguably worst nations in the game 😔

Like how do I even play either of these outside of singleplayer

[bright arrow]

Im gonna call it

[rare ingot]

guys important question about tank stats.. 10% loss in armor or +100% gain in defense ?

for space marines

[bright arrow]

At 187 M casualties, this world war does not have an enf

The soviets have taken over 65M casualties alone

[heavy vigil]

decided to do a kmt game

[bright arrow]

my side + soviet side

my faction lost 18M people, comintern lost 84M people, and the Allies lost 90M people

im about to cap the comintern ending a 20 year war. Total casualties, 192 Million dead

[misty fossil]

get more stability

[dusky burrow]

32 division D-Day be like:

(this is basically me playing sandbox btw)

[random delta]

wait so how do you get focus trees for Lithuania and Poland what DLCs are those in

[bright arrow]

No step back

But im pretty sure base game Poland has an unique focus tree

Just not all the paths

[random delta]

i dont think they do

i play vanilla and they just have "armament effort III"

[trail beacon]

I already have Max pp

[random delta]

metal pole land has nothing in vanilla

[bright arrow]

Poland United and Ready Dlc

Was a free dlc given to the base game on an anniversary or smth

Base game poland has a focus tree

But No step Back adds more

[random delta]

well i didnt see anything

base game does not have one only P:UAR

[split bane]

Poland United And Ready is integrated with the base game, and when No Step Back updated the Polish focus tree the Historical Polish tree (and economy + military) came for free

[glad sun]

how do they have 0 troops??

[dire hornet]

guys whats a good first nation to play in TNO

[glad sun]

Go4 speer

[random delta]

well you can turn it off

[split bane]

I mean, I don't see why you would

[random delta]

i dont see why i did either

[dusky burrow]

Most normal Soviet Civil War

[bright forum]

I suck at HOI4.

Combined with the fact it took me ages to beat Poland, I think I'm just bad at the game.

[misty fossil]

that happens

just do it again

you gotta put in the effort to learn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbpWbSD6hEY&pp=ygUSaG9pNCBnZXJtYW55IGd1aWRl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2tDbNYstc&t=970s&pp=ygUSaG9pNCBnZXJtYW55IGd1aWRl there's also this which is a more advanced way of playing

[wet plover]

First time ending the war in Europe! Had somebody help me through the whole thing so, it wasn’t done alone.

[wary sparrow]

How did Mexico get claims on all of finland bro

ngl german monarchist path gives you SO much free land with focuses that by the time i actually fought the soviets i just steamrolled them instantly

[viscid stirrup]

real

[wary sparrow]

i never even left limited conscription lol

[viscid stirrup]

communism gives so much manpowers vvro

[wary sparrow]

meh

who needs 10 million manpower

the monarchists are so op that i never even finished the path to fix the economy

i literally ignored everything the whole game and still annhilated them

[dusky burrow]

Just continue pushing, you will reach Berlin eventually

You've already breached the Westwall

[wary sparrow]

like i literally get SO many cores

and i havent even reformed the HRE yet

this is just goofy

[wind swift]

will these allied units eventually die if they stay there forever?

[split sable]

Turkey wants to sign non-aggression pact
Turkey cancels non-aggression pact
Turkey wants to sign non-aggression pact
Turkey cancels non-aggression pact
Turkey wants to sign non-aggression pact
....
Wtf is wrong with them

[bright forum]

I'm Germany

I suck at this game.

[dusky burrow]

No

But if you attack them and they run out of org they will mass surrender

So perhaps a naval invasion or paradrop can work

[wind swift]

gracias

[spark lava]

anyone got server link to tfr?

[tropic lance]

never playing america in kaiserreich again

don't fall for it guys

[spark lava]

i recommend pushing poland very early to skip danzig and have no war with allies

[tropic lance]

my factory output is -99%\

[spark lava]

lmao

[tropic lance]

nevermind went back to 104%

my guns are actively being demolished bruh

[dapper ingot]

Still kinda new to the game (school has been stopping me from playing,) and I main Mexico because of its generic focus tree and how safe I’ll be with the USA protecting me. Using “Brigadida Agrista” or Agrarian Brigade, I slap MP, Maintenance, Engineer, Calvary and Anti Air. Only 3 infantry templates too. In total, it’s a 6 width division template. It takes 20 Anti Air and 390 mondragon rifles. Also, it only takes 75 support equipment. I only have vanilla. Is this a valid template or nah?

[dapper ingot]

How do you hurt yourself this badly?

[tropic lance]

I tried to get macarthur

[spark lava]

depends

[spark lava]

if its more for defense or offense

[spark lava]

macarthur probs worst one

tbh

js dont play amerika

i personally play with a mod roter morgen

for goebbels tree

[spark lava]

in kx

[tropic lance]

I usually play qing china

nice challenge to reunite

[spark lava]

trust me get the mod and play red germany

[dapper ingot]

America haters when they don’t have a straightforward game plan:

[spark lava]

and get goebbels

[spark lava]

shhh

america lowkey mid in kx

[dapper ingot]

If it’s mid, I want to play it

[spark lava]

overall kx is mid

EaW is the meta

[dapper ingot]

What?

What is big unc saying bro

This is all I’m hearing with these abbreviations

[spark lava]

why big unc

im small unc

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hat-gif-24889203

[dapper ingot]

Because that’s an old meme.

Oh naw. Germany is naval in banding me

[spark lava]

k

[tropic lance]

💔 only in kaiserreich

[dapper ingot]

I need to lock in

[spark lava]

how dude

[tropic lance]

atleast huey only gets 4 divs while the socialists only get 2

[spark lava]

i wanna make gamer turkey in CW RaR

[spark lava]

rahj

rah

[spark lava]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

[tropic lance]

manpower is the only thing I have above 50

and factories

but it's nullified

by -100 output

-90% stability

[random delta]

how does one get that low as usa bruv

[tropic lance]

kaiserreich

funny how his is the only good thing that's happened

[cedar lance]

when will they release the RANGER combat battalion?

[atomic grove]

lmao

this is probably the most diabolical game ive ever had

[tropic lance]

Iranian france...

[atomic grove]

yes

this is the most cheese ever used as iran

that you will ever see

maybe

[hoary mortar]

am itred

now goo night

[wary sparrow]

i luv cores

bit op but

it sure is fun

[dusky burrow]

That Poland lmao

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[gusty oracle]

hi

[cedar lance]

wassup tied?

[fair horizon]

hey chat why does portugal speak brazillian?

[wary sparrow]

He got in the way

[random delta]

Portugal was a Brazilian colony you 0.00 supply remaining in province

[azure palm]

bro what is going on in France and Spain? And why is Hungary so strong? And why is nearly everyone communist?

[wary sparrow]

France is fighting the brits in Spain, Hungary did their focuses for land and Germany also has focuses to give Hungary land, and I guess just a bunch of nations went down the communist path this time

[devout trench]

Because the Portuguese did 4 collab governments before invading

Life lessons you can learn from the Portuguese

[near schooner]

why is french commune ur ally

[willow plume]

heyyy u managed to form the holy roman empire

were u the guy that started out as luxemborg?

[devout trench]

Did Luxembourg ever get a focus tree

[random delta]

why would Luxembourg get a focus tree

[nova snow]

I am that one

And

Rn im halfway

If im serious I finished 30 minutes in hell then started the Luxembourg thing

Rn I have France under control

Building up my army to take down the allies

Then to take down the soviet union and thats it

@haughty jacinth

[willow plume]

nice \

i hope it goes well

itll probably take a while

[soft oxide]

Do you Guys think we will ever get an Clausewitz Engine 2.0 Update? Imagine the game could run 20 years without any significant Performance Issues even with Mods!

"The new Clausewitz Engine 2.0 DLC for just 50 Euros"😂

[viscid stirrup]

crazy how the civil war is the only good thing

[umbral spruce]

Guys is this overkill

[heavy vigil]

hate when im playing china and red supply

[umbral spruce]

This took 1 months and 4 days

No nukes used

[spiral nexus]

hi guys

how can i get the hoi4 tag

[solemn bay]

Enemy divisions probably disintegrate

[paper echo]

click that then press "Server tag" then adopt tag

[zenith charm]

unholy alliance

[simple citrus]

huh

[noble garden]

Most normal hoi4 map

[grizzled zenith]

Wth paradox?

[simple citrus]

@zinc light abyssinia is ass

[simple citrus]

ocean :DDD

[grizzled zenith]

Caspian Sea too

[untold sphinx]

annex all + release everything

[grizzled zenith]

Literally unplayable

[noble garden]

Real

[noble garden]

I need to reclaim my african colonies so I can make greater Italy

Pain

[gilded plover]

Why you have ukrainian flag in name

[zinc light]

All I hear is Skill issue

[zinc light]

Maybe because they're ukrainian/ Support them?

[gilded plover]

I only ask

[simple citrus]

no
they have slave-based economy
and slavery is uh
bad

[gilded plover]

But if he is a man he should be protecting his country

[zinc light]

Then get rid of it

[simple citrus]

what if he's a child

have you thought of that

O.o

[untold sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248466428231815280/1289957803837886559/attachment-3-2.gif

[gilded plover]

Discord is basicly 16+

[zinc light]

You'll have to, it either cripples your economy and PP gain or you become a Slave uprising

[simple citrus]

16??????????

errrrr

well i'm 14

[gilded plover]

Yeah

[zinc light]

Nah it's age restricted to 13+

[simple citrus]

am i not allowed to use this app?

[zinc light]

You're Just making Up stuff

[gilded plover]

Well now yo7 get ban

[simple citrus]

yea you can as well mutilate my remains for thinking about discord

ooooo how dare i

how could i

[gilded plover]

?

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[simple citrus]

they didn't even try

timbuktu??? yemen?????????/

lmao

[zinc light]

Wait Till you hear about Wingbardy
Or Saddle Arabia
Or Maregypt

[grizzled zenith]

Because I'm Ukrainian

[zinc light]

It's all horse themed down there in zebrica

[gilded plover]

@grizzled zenith ok

[simple citrus]

i paid a visit to all these lands

errr

uhhh

why is my infrastructure so ass

[grizzled zenith]

This doesn't work like that lmao

[simple citrus]

even ethiopia had better infrastructure

tf is this

[gilded plover]

Are you over 18?

[grizzled zenith]

No, I'll be 17 in 21 day

[gilded plover]

You can lie about age to military

[simple citrus]

as if that wasn't bad enough

2 impassable deserts

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao as if they didn't require your documents

[gilded plover]

Yesh

So go

To milotary

[simple citrus]

then idi nakhuy

[orchid lily]

ffs germany

why did you need that little state at the bottom 💔

[simple citrus]

works perfectly fine every single time

[grizzled zenith]

Exactly lol

[simple citrus]

cernauti?

or vojvodina

or banat

orr

silistria

[orchid lily]

dobrudja

[simple citrus]

so silistria

[grizzled zenith]

Is that non historical?

[orchid lily]

yeah

[simple citrus]

no

this is historical

hungary got nun

at all

[orchid lily]

hungary is against us rn

[grizzled zenith]

Ah yes, green Russia, Ukraine and Crimea on historical

[simple citrus]

my father told me about allat

he cant be lyin 4sure

[orchid lily]

still, adriatic sea secured

it's ship printing time

[simple citrus]

mare nostra or whatever

[orchid lily]

this is my fleet rn

hows it looking?

[simple citrus]

ass

[gilded plover]

Ukrainian history starts in 1991

[orchid lily]

be so fr

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/skrillex-electrocuted-electrocute-electrocution-bangarang-gif-11891465766745845470

[grizzled zenith]

Bro play Kaiserredux/Kaiserreich you'll be shocked

[simple citrus]

is that you

[orchid lily]

actually it starts in 2019

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[orchid lily]

it was irrelevant before russia invaded it

[gilded plover]

Yeah splish

[simple citrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_State
hey soo...

[gilded plover]

Yeah

[simple citrus]

it was invaded in 2014 though?...

[orchid lily]

yeah but nobody cares about that

[gilded plover]

Ruś Kijowska isnt umraine

[simple citrus]

🥷 that's not Rus Kijowska

that's Українська Держава

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[simple citrus]

well if you don like that one we got Українська Народна Республіка

[grizzled zenith]

Mods are sleeping it's time for propaganda

Before they ban everyone

[simple citrus]

orrr like Exercitus Zaporoviensis

heard about this one??? @gilded plover

[orchid lily]

be fr tho

i wanna try contest the mediterranean against britain

at least until i get suez

[grizzled zenith]

Btw didn't expect Ethiopia to be harder than Luxembourg

[orchid lily]

and hopefully gibiltrar

[simple citrus]

naaa i dunno tbf i'm not really good with fleets i js spam cruisers and light ships and hope that does something

sometimes submarines to annihilate convoys

[grizzled zenith]

I'd kill France in 1936 and steal their fleet, Italo-French fleet is too much for Britain to handle

[orchid lily]

no that's stupid

[grizzled zenith]

I just spam 2 billion cheap naval bombers

[orchid lily]

i dont like cheesing

[grizzled zenith]

Kk

[simple citrus]

y

[orchid lily]

it's fun the first time you do it

then it's just broken and boring

[grizzled zenith]

I don't too but I mean you're just going to war with France you're not paradropping it or something

[simple citrus]

but it works

and it's efficient

[orchid lily]

the most efficient strategy is using console to give me a gazintrillion ships

[simple citrus]

👍

[grizzled zenith]

Should I try forming Byzantium without the encirclments until I kill all the Turks or should I play Ethiopia?

[grizzled zenith]

I just spam 2 billion cheap naval bombers and build radars, works all the time

[simple citrus]

play ethiopia and try getting the holy land

[orchid lily]

hitler boy WHAT are you doing bro 😭

wait iraq is at war with uk

oh no

[simple citrus]

hitler boy

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[grizzled zenith]

K

[grizzled zenith]

That Solomon formable?

[simple citrus]

yup

[orchid lily]

yeah ww2 started 😭

and it was started by the brits invading iraq

crazy

AND SWITZERLAND IS IN IT TOO

[grizzled zenith]

Kk

[grizzled zenith]

My WW2 when I was playing as Italy started by Palestine or war

[simple citrus]

uh

[grizzled zenith]

Are you playing EaW?

[simple citrus]

yes

[grizzled zenith]

K

[simple citrus]

purrkele?...

https://tenor.com/view/my-summer-car-gif-26823024

perkeleeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!11111!!!1!11

https://tenor.com/view/my-summer-car-gif-27532772

[grizzled zenith]

My summer car is 🔥🔥🔥

All the Finnish games I know are for masochists

[simple citrus]

yea if only i could afford it

[simple citrus]

mmm celeste

mmm ultrakill

[grizzled zenith]

Is it Finnish?

[simple citrus]

yea

[gilded plover]

Whats that in english

[grizzled zenith]

Celeste is for masochists too, just get to those challenges

And the Noita and My Summer Car

[gilded plover]

What thoes this umrainian words mean

[simple citrus]

fghykdi.bvu cdmnbrgff

noita

[gilded plover]

Whats that

[grizzled zenith]

Ultrakill can be masochistic if you play on max difficulty and try to P tank everything

[simple citrus]

i tried p-ranking first act for p-1 fight

i failed

[grizzled zenith]

Ukrainian People's Republic it's in Kaiserreich if you become democratic as Ukraine and it existed irl in 1917 and 1918-20

[gilded plover]

No

There were never country named ukraine

Until 1991

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

Just open Wikipedia lil bro

[grizzled zenith]

Me too

But I did beat it at least

[simple citrus]

wish it didn't
US was cooler

[gilded plover]

Nuh uh you were like romes with no country

[azure palm]

There was one during the time between russian empire and soviet union i think

[grizzled zenith]

Yes, Ukrainian People's Republic

[gilded plover]

No

[simple citrus]

we atleast were friends with german empire!!!1 kinda

and uh

had a monarch!!!!!

[gilded plover]

U were living i russia bot ukraine

[grizzled zenith]

And a unique one, Hetman

[gilded plover]

Ukraine should be russian and polish

[grizzled zenith]

Russian Empire collapsed lil bro

[grizzled zenith]

Rught after you give East Prussia back to Germany lmao

[gilded plover]

Yeah cuz soviets made soviet union

[gilded plover]

Then give beleraus and half ukraine back

[grizzled zenith]

It happened in 1924, 4 years after UPR lost a war to the Bolsheviks, and even then Ukrianian SSR existed

[gilded plover]

Do on front go fight

stephan bandera country that listened to germans

[lusty comet]

yo im looking for a teacher that can help me with the basics and then play with

[gilded plover]

Ukraine is just some poor country that was never greatfull

And only wants more

[grizzled zenith]

I would tell you something but I don't want to get banned for politics so I'll just let the mods ban you instead

[gilded plover]

Dajta dajta dajta

[gilded plover]

I k ow what 1943

And why you like person who got money for killing

[grizzled zenith]

You can watch some guides and then play like Germany

[grizzled zenith]

Ok <@&846894118219022336> he's getting too political

[gilded plover]

No

[lusty comet]

i already tried but i have always questions and its not working very well

[gilded plover]

Why

[grizzled zenith]

You can send screenshots and ask questions here and I can help with any questions you might have

[grizzled zenith]

Or anyone in this chat

[gilded plover]

Ukraine as always betrayed russian, polish, jews and

[grizzled zenith]

Btw do you have any DLCs?

[safe wing]

cringe nationalism

[safe wing]

1917-1920?

[grizzled zenith]

1917*

[safe wing]

Ah mb

[gilded plover]

Do yall know why this republic was created?

And who lived in tbere

Go fight where are you now? Escaped you coward?

[grizzled zenith]

It was an Autonomy in the Russian Republic before, but after this Republic fell it became independent

[gilded plover]

Stop yapping go on front

Line

[lapis snow]

Amazing, a salty polak

[safe wing]

You should do the same for Russia then I guess

[grizzled zenith]

Do u like Josef Pilsudski?

[gilded plover]

ukraine = russia

[gilded plover]

50/50

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[gilded plover]

He made camps for ppl who wanted destroy Poland i know that

[tiny iris]

No modern politics, read the damn rules😭

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[gilded plover]

It aint modern

[grizzled zenith]

The moders are sleeping ig

[gilded plover]

Bye all

[trim pike]

[tiny iris]

I swear, one day I will become mod.

[gilded plover]

@trim pike Dont be L

[tiny iris]

You guys annoy me so much, read the rules before posting shit.

[safe wing]

Minecraft reference

[trim pike]

Funnily enough automod muted him for a completely unrelated reason

[tiny iris]

How do I become mod???

[grizzled zenith]

"It ain't modern"🥀

[trim pike]

Applications arent open rn

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[trim pike]

Modern is anything post ww2

[tiny iris]

Ok, thank you.

[trim pike]

Please keep modern discussions out of here

[gilded plover]

Okay

[trim pike]

@simple citrus u too

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[simple citrus]

but that one was from ww2... fine i wont mention that anymore

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah that is in Kaiserreich

[rare crow]

I don't.. I don't know..

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao why is he so salty

[gilded plover]

L

[grizzled zenith]

Wth Italian army being bigger than German?

[rare crow]

I was using the Player Vs World mod

And I used tanks

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[grizzled zenith]

Read the rules lol

[rare crow]

yeah the encirclements are something else

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/skrillex-electrocuted-electrocute-electrocution-bangarang-gif-11891465766745845470

lmfao

can't imagine calling someone i don't know on discord over their nationality

[grizzled zenith]

Oh and he left

Or not

Discord is bugged for me ig

[simple citrus]

he didn't

D:

[grizzled zenith]

He did, close discord and open again it's bugged sometimes

[safe wing]

yeah he is still on unfortunately

[grizzled zenith]

Idk it shows he isn't for me

Maybe he blocked me or smth

[safe wing]

probably that

[grizzled zenith]

Ethiopia is hard

[safe wing]

it is

anyways I can cap them pretty fast as Italy

[grizzled zenith]

I can cap it before it goes in exile 100% of the time, but playing it is hard

[safe wing]

same

usually around late March early April 1936

[rancid bramble]

allo

[grizzled zenith]

Hi

[rancid bramble]

what are we playing today?

[grizzled zenith]

I'm playing Ethiopia idk about u

[rancid bramble]

im trying to decide

i just ended a mexico game

[grizzled zenith]

Trotsky Mexico?

Or just any other Mexico?

[rancid bramble]

Catholic

[untold sphinx]

absolute monster economy

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

[rancid bramble]

y did u let Horthy have Slovakia?

[untold sphinx]

cuz why not

[rancid bramble]

...fair

[untold sphinx]

im not gonna invade britain i wanna play endsieg

[rancid bramble]

lucky. for i cant

[untold sphinx]

problem is i dont think soviet union will manage to survive after 41

[untold sphinx]

wdym

[mint adder]

Can we change the name for minor nations

Can we not call them minors

[rancid bramble]

lowers

[grizzled zenith]

No way

[rancid bramble]

we calling them "Lowers" now

[grizzled zenith]

Minors forever

[mint adder]

Because then there’s people saying “i love minor nations” without the “nations”

[rancid bramble]

after Gotterdamarune, i cant naval invade the UK anymore

[rancid bramble]

"I love Lowers"

thats better

[flat anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292525256373960705/1411350069755646106/caption-25.gif

[rancid bramble]

[untold sphinx]

yeah you have to use meta divisions

[grizzled zenith]

It's not so hard

[rancid bramble]

i know.

i just suffer from "Skill issue"

[untold sphinx]

it took me hours to figure out how to do it but when you get it it's easy

[rancid bramble]

what is the meta division temeplate

no one gives me it

[grizzled zenith]

Exactly

[untold sphinx]

either you go mass mob 35.2w and just poop them 60 divisions

or you go marines + tanks

lemme pull them up

[grizzled zenith]

32 w mountaineers/marines

[rancid bramble]

ah

[grizzled zenith]

They're very good for pushing

[untold sphinx]

that alone doesnt work it needs tanks

[rancid bramble]

tank youy

[untold sphinx]

use this and

[grizzled zenith]

Also 36 width motorized+tanks are good

[rancid bramble]

[safe wing]

Now to depose Mussolini

[safe wing]

I used these

[untold sphinx]

and this

[grizzled zenith]

Uhh I prefer doing mountaineers and marines separately cuz I go for the doctrine that decreases mountaineer width

[safe wing]

they shredded

[rancid bramble]

spawn a Greek next to him

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[untold sphinx]

like 8 of those tanks + 20 marines and they fold

[safe wing]

nah the grand council has it covered

[untold sphinx]

OR

[grizzled zenith]

Btw why not add like artillery support company?

[untold sphinx]

you can go with this if youre a high manpower country

[untold sphinx]

idk its not completly finished

add whatever

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[untold sphinx]

like logistics anti air pioneers rangers

and yeah sup arty

[untold sphinx]

waitt oops you should add one more line of infantry below

like this, ignore the mods

[grizzled zenith]

Chinese ahh division

[slim nexus]

looks hot I'll use that now

[untold sphinx]

go for med flamethrower not light

made a mistake doing it

[grizzled zenith]

That's what I normally use too for tanks

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah and you can add light tank recon too

[tiny iris]

I do not think this focus is worth it😭

Yes, I will gladly spend 70 days for that mil.

[grizzled zenith]

It's good

[tiny iris]

Explaim

[grizzled zenith]

It expands your company+research and a mill

[untold sphinx]

ugh

70 days for that

[tiny iris]

Idk man, 70 days is alot

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah 35 would've been better

[tiny iris]

Better than Turkey anyways

That focus tree makes me have a headache

Paradox should learn there's something called a too big focus tree.

It would be better if they added some 14 and 35 day focuses too.

But no, everything is 70.

[grizzled zenith]

I like big focus trees

If you know how to do them it'll be good, but pdx doesn't ig

[tiny iris]

Of course but Turkey is maybe not too big but its too long. 70 days every focus. Its '39 when you can change your ideology.

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

[grizzled zenith]

Way better

[spare laurel]

crazy

[tiny iris]

Love your pfp

[simple citrus]

crazy, you say?

[spare laurel]

thx yours looks also nice

[spare laurel]

ye

[grizzled zenith]

Kaiser Wilhelm is occupying this chat

[solid dirge]

chat im bored what should I play

[spare laurel]

Hoi4

[grizzled zenith]

Kaiserredux is pretty fun

[solid dirge]

wow

[solid dirge]

I didnt really like kz

[grizzled zenith]

Kk

[safe wing]

Monarchist Italy

In vanilla

[solid dirge]

but thats too easy

[safe wing]

Spam commandos

[grizzled zenith]

Bhutan World Conquest

[snow rain]

it's alright but

• don't use pioneers on tanks (you don't naval invade with them, use engineers or armored engineers)
• Always use medium flame tanks (most buffs of all)
• either use cav or mechanized, especially if you're not making tanks that go above 8km/h (6.4 for cav)
• add support AA and hospital
• add support arty (early tank) which you replace with rangers (it caps the speed at 6.4km/h but huge buffs) or logistics once you have howitzer 2s

You can replace 2 mot with medium tanks but this will work fine anyway and is cheaper

[solid dirge]

ofc ofc

[snow rain]

make it 35 width (35.2 if mass mob) and add support AA and hospital + medium flame tank (instead of logi) + superheavy howitzer/rangers instead of arty if you can and it'll be unstoppable

[simple citrus]

what

[grizzled zenith]

Why replace support arty?

[simple citrus]

ss-ordenstaat in my little pony universe

huh

[grizzled zenith]

Also don't pioneers give buffs for rivers?

[snow rain]

because once you get howitzers, you don't need the extra soft and can replace that company with something way more useful

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[snow rain]

yes, but you don't care about this, you want the buffs for everything else

[grizzled zenith]

K

[snow rain]

you'll push rivers just fine, and armored engineers are way better

[grizzled zenith]

Literally never used them lmao

[grizzled zenith]

Pdx should really make getting this research faster

[snow rain]

example of stats (no doctrine) of a tank div (was done pre GTR so don't have armored engi and didn't replace logi for hospital)

[normal zinc]

Hello. Will hoi4 l's new dlc be sold on a per dlc basis?

[grizzled zenith]

Did hospital become better after GTR?

[snow rain]

yes, if you don't want the small cosmetic packs in the expansion pass, buying everything individually will be a buckl or two cheaper iirc

[snow rain]

no, I became better lmao

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[snow rain]

I was shown the light of hospitaleven in sp

before that I only used them in MP or for manpower-tight countries/massmob

[normal zinc]

Ty

[snow rain]

tank design btw (1ic costlier now since rebalance patch. Adjust speed to your liking + add mio)

[simple citrus]

DUTCH SOUTH INDIES???????????????

DUTCH CAPE COLONY??????????????????/

i don't see the netherlands anywhere around

[snow rain]

flame tanks (useful left side, if you want to bother ; cheap right side if you don't care). In sp only use left one if you do special forces you don't need to bother with it for tanks

[simple citrus]

EVEN BOER REPUBLICS

TRANSVAAL

OMG

[untold sphinx]

if you read 3 messages below i showed the full template

[untold sphinx]

yeah no this template was designed for sea lion, pioneers on tanks is essential i push the coastal flanks to widen the front and take the advantage

[zinc light]

which one of you clankers said Abyssinia is weak

[untold sphinx]

• again if you read i said below i didnt go full on support companies, and that logistics + aa + etc

[snow rain]

true but then use amtracks instead or, hell, even marines/inf instead of motorised
I believe even cav has less penalities to naval invasion than mot

[untold sphinx]

also using mechanized in 39 is a waste of time + cav is very mid

[snow rain]

cav is basically inf at 1.2x hte price while mot is inf at 3x the cost. Only difference between the two is 2 hp less, about 1.5brk less and the need for rubber/fuel + speed obv

[snow rain]

mechanized is never a waste

it has extreme defence stats, better brk than any other mobile inf, extremely high HP and, especially usful in singleplayer, 40% hardness

[untold sphinx]

when you convert your motorized units to mechanized i reckon they dont lose the experience

[snow rain]

and you can get it as soon as mid 1937 with germany without rushing it and can half the cost to 4ic with 100mil xp

[untold sphinx]

whereas it does when you switch to cav

[tidal wasp]

guys, am I cooking?

[untold sphinx]

yes

[snow rain]

I mean ok but it's SP, you'll get xp anyway and mot is still 3x costlier

[snow rain]

scrapping the barrel is pure troll ngl

[tidal wasp]

look at my manpower

[snow rain]

there's no way you had time to even mobilize, let alone field and lose the 10%

[snow rain]

hover over it and take a screenshot

[untold sphinx]

i mean considering you invade britain in 40 and right after the soviets, losing tank experience mid barbarossa can drastically change the invasion

[untold sphinx]

remove total mob

[snow rain]

not really, especially since you lose something like 40% of a level

[snow rain]

look at those numbers

[untold sphinx]

isnt it more

losing momentum in barbarossa is very annoying

[snow rain]

you're mobilizing, it takes time
You can go down to 1.5% and you'll still be mobilizing at the same speed but without the penalities for high mobilization law

[untold sphinx]

get reserve officers spirit

get any buff that gets you high mob speed

[snow rain]

no point he's not training units

[untold sphinx]

buffs mob speed

[snow rain]

reserve officiers is 15% recruitment speed iirc

[snow rain]

no, that's why in MP players train up to lvl 3 a 40w cav unit that they then swap to a 36w tank div, they'll be at 20% xp when swapping with 10 tanks 8 mech

[tidal wasp]

guys, I think I'm just cooked...

[tulip isle]

woah hoi4 is so easy, I'm a begineer and I learned navy!

[tidal wasp]

cap

[tulip isle]

nope

[untold sphinx]

anyone could learn navy its just so useless most of the time

[tulip isle]

I'm just unemployed!

[simple citrus]

well uh

it can help you with stopping annoying ass naval invasions

[untold sphinx]

minimally

[tulip isle]

besides I defeated ethopia as italy.. ts makes me pro, right?

[untold sphinx]

just get big number of ships and put big ships in sea and wait for it to turn green!

[simple citrus]

i once almost lost as a portugal-brazil to weak spain

because they landed in lissabon

thank god rio-de-janeiro is big enough to be a temporary capital

[tulip isle]

I have the 5 peaks

[safe wing]

Thalman got replaced

[sly elm]

Attempt No. 4, i have zero clue what division is attacking where, i hope to be succesful.

[grizzled zenith]

Why do I steal 0 enemy equipment as Ethiopia even tho I have +40% equipment captured ration spirit?

[grizzled zenith]

Is there anything else that can affect that?

[flat gazelle]

maybe they just dont have equipment

so theres nothing to steal

[sly elm]

LETS GO

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[slim nexus]

Rare to see a Palestine rt56 game

[azure palm]

Is it possible to get Ironman Save Files onto the cloud so you can play it on other devices?

[tiny iris]

I hate this game. I played as Denmark and almost capitulated Norway. I did ask Germany to join so I would have naval superiority to naval invade. Anyways, the Germans naval invaded and took a bunch of undefended land that I distracted the Norwegians from defending. Then germany got almost all war score.

Stupid game.

[bright arrow]

Im thinking of Getting Gotterdammerung, what are you guys opinions?

[dawn brook]

😭

[slim nexus]

The names are so broken sometimes

The German reichs name was in France at one point in one game

(They only had Austria and Belgium)

[dawn brook]

blue japan and taiping manchuria

[flat gazelle]

sounds like a skill issue ngl

[slim nexus]

Why is the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace in one of the areas it was never historically in 😭

[dawn brook]

Hong XiuQang has changed ideas

[slim nexus]

Hong Xiuquan was genuinely insane

[hasty thistle]

Technocratic Socialist Russia wins the great trial

[dawn brook]

he was a funny dude

[slim nexus]

What mod is that 😭

[slim nexus]

He was basically the Chinese Joseph smith

[hasty thistle]

that focus tree looks majestic

[dawn brook]

it was made by a chinese dude it completely overhauls the generic focus tree and there's secret paths for the 2nd coming of jesus and Hon Xiuquan

[dawn brook]

lemme look at the name hold on

[slim nexus]

I could tell it was made by a Chinese guy cause most non Chinese people don’t know about the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace

[solar narwhal]

nice one italy

[slim nexus]

Interesting

[hasty thistle]

its always them that makes the mods ingames either great or questionable xd

[dawn brook]

it's a really good mod lol

[solar narwhal]

poor germany

[slim nexus]

We make peak

[honest glacier]

would anyone like bordergore

[slim nexus]

thats gross, stop that

[slim nexus]

Why is India everywhere

[vale berry]

How can i prevent the bypass of the focus Ceylon Forward Operating Base?

[dawn brook]

oh no now it's worse

[bright arrow]

Guys, should i play Hungary or Austria?

[slim nexus]

play both

[tiny iris]

Guys, who is the better HOI4 player, ISP or Bitt3rsteel?

[snow rain]

iirc you need to win offensive battles

[atomic grove]

why dont i get this event as mexico anymore

[grizzled zenith]

Oh ok

[robust spruce]

What the HELL man

[orchid lily]

man this campaign is going so much better

The only problem that isn't even a problem is invading the British isles

I'll just use the German Norway and go from Scotland

After that I'll land in the south at the same time and encircle them

[slim nexus]

good luck homeboy

[orchid lily]

Thanks kanye

[honest glacier]

if u take gibraltar and spanish morocco you can trap some or most uk ships in the med

[orchid lily]

That's what I was planning to do

Unfortunately I tried an assault on Cyprus and failed

But

With that assault I sunk like 4 of their carriers and a battleship

And a ton of screens

[safe wing]

why didn't you form IEA

[orchid lily]

What's iea

[safe wing]

Italian East Africa

[orchid lily]

Because I don't like puppets

[safe wing]

if you cap Ethopia before Haliee Salisee flees

[safe wing]

huh?

thats an intresting take

[orchid lily]

Everything must be under the direct control of Rome

[slim nexus]

but the IEA flag hits hard

[safe wing]

I just do puppets on non core territories

[safe wing]

yes and you can have Ethopia sit out WWII

[orchid lily]

Ethiopia is a rightful Italian claim and everyone that lives in it is italian

[fringe shell]

how did this happened>

?

[orchid lily]

And so is France I guess

And Syria?

[slim nexus]

yeah it is a treat for everyone

[safe wing]

all the colored stuff is

[orchid lily]

After I kick the British out of the Mediterranean Sea Greece and Bulgaria are next

And maybe turkey

If they're mean to me

[robust spruce]

Goodluck man

[grizzled zenith]

Do I go for the Solomon Empire or Pan Africanism?

[solar narwhal]

do the germans just not invade the soviets if france exists

[zenith charm]

i think so yeah

[solar narwhal]

theyre bogged down in the balkans and i can't do shit since france has no oil

[tardy marten]

Wait, I realized from Spain to Gibraltar is impossible to move in MP. Why btw?

[solar narwhal]

so im stuck twiddling my thumbs until i can either get enough destroyers out to convoy escort or build refineries

and now i have no rubber

awesome

[sudden thistle]

Germany doesn’t barb if there are any allied forces in mainland Europe

Italy, France/that bit in yugo

[sudden thistle]

They did that so u can’t just attack it with tanks if Spain joins the war

It would require actual skill to take with marines

[tardy marten]

I see

Spain player gonna have wet dream if Gibraltar is possible to move on land

[solar narwhal]

AGHHHH

[grand acorn]

based

[tardy marten]

Improve fighter
0/day
0 rubber on fire

Probably

But it needs irons, so it's should still possible to make with less efficiency

Nah, it's need aluminum

[solar narwhal]

big corsica?

[random delta]

larg corsica is stronk corsica

[stable fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[tardy marten]

Italy MP land doctrine mass mob right like Soviet?

[orchid lily]

No italys default doctrine is grand battleplan

[tardy marten]

I see

[opal nymph]

I think Italy does mass mob for d day wall

For MP

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[tardy marten]

So, Italy player is focus on defending

[opal nymph]

Not sure if you also invest in mech bricks to further make D-day harder to do

[sudden thistle]

Bulgaria does that

[opal nymph]

You invest in inf so other countries can invest in other stuff

[untold sphinx]

is there any fun high manpower country in europe except russia france uk and germany

[opal nymph]

Ah okay

[opal nymph]

Poland

[untold sphinx]

is it hard to play

[sudden thistle]

Norway 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fervent fjord]

hows yall

[orchid lily]

Oh wait did you mean multiplayer?

[tardy marten]

Usa has lots of people

[tardy marten]

MP, yeah

[orchid lily]

Mb I know nothing about that 😭

[untold sphinx]

Norway?

[tardy marten]

It's alright, I'm new here too

[sudden thistle]

Trust the process

[untold sphinx]

idk i wouldve gone fascist finland and then core all of scandinavia

Idk about norway

[sudden thistle]

U can get like 30m core pop

[tardy marten]

Usa has million manpower on disarmed?

Truly America move

[untold sphinx]

in europe i mean

[tardy marten]

I see, sorry

[untold sphinx]

i dont like playing usa and asia either

low supply countries with big tiles are unfun

[tardy marten]

Mongol tiles somewhat bigger than those at West of soviet

[sudden thistle]

Wdym is goated attacking shaanxi with starving troops

[tardy marten]

Mongol airport placement also annoying

[untold sphinx]

Idk once i played china and my friend played japan it waq the most boring game ever

[sudden thistle]

Why would u do that

[untold sphinx]

Idk he wanted to 1v1

[tardy marten]

Remembering my Japan ai pushing into XSM with red supply

Is, supply hub, technically a station?

Why its takes longer than literal naval base for supply

[gilded pike]

ig alr, cuz longer buildtime

[tardy marten]

Making better supply inland is just so long

[gilded pike]

like very long for supply

buildtime

should be like 1 month, its not that deep

[tardy marten]

1 month supply hub?

[gilded pike]

yea

yk if u need to build a lot of supply hubs along the china border, it should take 1 year

[tardy marten]

Literally

Soldiers eating guns?

Idk , are they hungry or what in red supply

[gilded pike]

yh

[tardy marten]

Ah yes, my soldiers eating guns and tanks

[gilded pike]

theyre starving without food

[gilded pike]

its so in hoi4

[slim nexus]

At this rate give it five years and paradox will add farms to hoi4

[dawn brook]

help me

[tardy marten]

Oh damn

That farm factory

[gilded pike]

fr

[gilded pike]

what yr problem

[slim nexus]

I can sense a mod to revert the coal change releases within an hour of the dlc comes out

[dawn brook]

i don't know what the hell happened for the map to look like this 😭

[tardy marten]

I love that, kuomintang army has 30% attack and defense

Probably kuomintang guns shooting rubber than actual bullet

[keen terrace]

Brooo

I made albania communist as yugoslavia just for them to join axis

[slim nexus]

lmao

[tardy marten]

He's mogging at you too

Bye bye...

[keen terrace]

Dw I’m mogging too

[tardy marten]

[slim nexus]

Oh no

Communist albania

[white echo]

you can win that war

[tardy marten]

Painter man align with communist

[keen terrace]

I’m encircled by axis forces

[white echo]

ask papa stalin to distract them

[opal nymph]

Sorry for late response. It can be relatively easy if you know what you are doing

[tardy marten]

Someone justify war goal on us!!!
German Reich has justify war goal on us

[keen terrace]

Okay so what happened is albania went in civil war with the commies and then Italy declared war on albania and they joined axis

[opal nymph]

Otherwise you can have a rough time

[tardy marten]

Historical?

[keen terrace]

They stopped guaranteeing my independence

[untold sphinx]

is it one of those countries you have to learn exactly how to play in a certain orde

R

[keen terrace]

Yeah but I made the pan slavic workers congres

[opal nymph]

Poland can survive with almost every path

[white echo]

build a bunch of forts and men

[opal nymph]

You just need to field a ton of manpower, which you can do

[untold sphinx]

its not as hard as spain right

[opal nymph]

Oh no

[tardy marten]

1939 30 minutes still possible?

[opal nymph]

If you struggle with Spain, you will struggle as Poland

[tardy marten]

I don't know how to get that achievement

[untold sphinx]

carlist spain

[tardy marten]

Warsaw defense or Krakow defense

[opal nymph]

I have never struggled as Spain except for playing as the Carlists

Ah

[untold sphinx]

Nationalist is easy enough if u learn the base mechanics

[opal nymph]

I would say Poland is easier than the Carlists

[quartz canyon]

Is street by street barrage better than suppressive barrage?

[untold sphinx]

which path do you recommend

[opal nymph]

Your easiest paths would be your monarchist ones

Historical isnt bad

You also have a decent exile tree if you die as well

[untold sphinx]

wouldnt it be kind of the same as an austria hungary playtrough

[opal nymph]

Not really

Unless you go Habsburg

[white echo]

guys is cav even worth it

[opal nymph]

For some meme paths like Cossack Poland you can kinda make it work

[untold sphinx]

is it good

[tardy marten]

70% entrancement France infantry, my First time winning as French

They digging deep into the earth

[opal nymph]

Your monarchist paths are good

[untold sphinx]

just go fascist

[white echo]

i know what im doing sometime this year

[tardy marten]

Just want to try historical focus, and win as France in ww2 scenario

Holding like ww1, and wait for UK to land or I got the upper hand

[untold sphinx]

i suppose we can put other habsburgs on the thrones and subjugate the countries

[slim nexus]

I need to play kaiserredux again

[untold sphinx]

historically you could realistically push them really hard if you go mass mob

[tardy marten]

Mass mob 36 width infantry?

[untold sphinx]

35.2 width

[tardy marten]

How many inf battalion in that template with max mass mob right

[untold sphinx]

infatry tanks with 600 hp

[untold sphinx]

max -3

[white echo]

would i use a medium or a heavy for a inf tank

[untold sphinx]

armor meme?