hoi4-general

[strong belfry]

hello guys what do you guys think about osamason

the rapper

[fair horizon]

when the majors of a faction lose so do the minors

[indigo barn]

wtf

china fighting on both sides of a war

[rose siren]

And then only danzig

[dusky burrow]

China vs China

[indigo barn]

fr

[dusky burrow]

Also two communist factions on both sides of the war

[indigo barn]

yeah

[hollow pulsar]

try not to descend into warlord states challenge: impossible

[indigo barn]

and even fighting within factions somehow?

love when the 4th international is at war with the mutual assistance bloc

the only thing I could do to complicate this even more, is get the allies involved, or start a fascist coup in soviet union

wtf democratic yugoslavia just asked to join axis

[rose siren]

Finaly 🤩🤩🤩

[indigo barn]

damn all these fascist countries but i cant invite to axis cuz of a war it might drag them into (japanese civil war)

[near schooner]

anechoic tiles are worth it?

[bright arrow]

Omg China just left the CUF and Joined the allies

This is gonna make my CCP game so much more annoying

[indigo barn]

also why is fascist canada still in allies

and why is fascist japan trying to annex them

[umbral agate]

would camels for africa be good or should i use infantry?

[indigo barn]

and im just sitting here rn as germany trying to wrap up this japanese civil war while also trying to avoid war with the soviet union

at 100% do they just change ideology lol

[bright arrow]

You cnat reach 100% i think

[indigo barn]

well its pretty close

shame that commies dont hold elections

[somber orbit]

call me justinian

[indigo barn]

and china switched sides of jp civil war for the 10th time

and then they have a white peace

[sharp sierra]

brown peace 💩

[indigo barn]

the list goes on to have practically every single nation in the world

idk what japan is doing but they have beef with literally everyone

[sharp sierra]

emo logan paul looking ass

[dusky burrow]

Not yet you haven't taken Italy, faced 18 years of resistance, destroyed all the factories there, and waged war on France

[somber orbit]

yeah i'll try

europes a bit of a mess though

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-flightreacts-minecraft-steve-minecraft-gif-17000977002887842325

[dusky burrow]

BTW this all happened

[somber orbit]

and he had a plague

[dusky burrow]

And yea, the plague

You must have a plague

[somber orbit]

the plague was absolutely his fault

[dusky burrow]

As Justinian's true successor you must engineer the plague and then fix your country to prove yourself worthy

[fickle cove]

what are your guys' opinions on the rise of nations mod?

[sharp sierra]

what is it like

[halcyon pasture]

parking 24 of these on hong kong (+12.5% urban defense)

[fickle cove]

it tries its best to cover 1900 ALL THE WAY to 2020

it's absolutely crazy

it sounds too good to be true, and as you can expect, it really is

content from 1949 onwards is BARE BONES apparently

[wheat copper]

how do I fix this?

[fickle cove]

but what i find so interesting is how the mod mixed the states to fit the country borders from all 120 years

[dusky burrow]

that's a 40-width division

Also what are you feeding your tanks because that is expensive

[verbal bramble]

hey everyone what do you use for large offensives

[halcyon pasture]

designed to only hold urban tiles and never move
7642 factories and just messing around lol
(I have many mods and am enjoying a cold war with the axis in rt56)

[verbal bramble]

like tanks are for encirclements and stuff

[dusky burrow]

I see

Hmmm

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[verbal bramble]

yeah so is there an equivalent for big pushes on a front

is it just the funny infantry brick

[sharp sierra]

special forces

[verbal bramble]

I see

thanks

[sudden thistle]

A Ratte

[sudden thistle]

Tanks

[verbal bramble]

fair enough

[rapid ridge]

I've done it

Finally...

Peace.

I can stop playing this game

[fringe shell]

ai peace deals

[indigo barn]

after taking land my troops are so damn fast to move somewhere entirely else on the front lines that they vacate the damn tile before the enemy has vacated it, so it immediately falls back to the enemy

and why is the enemy taking forever to vacate it and still fighting

like im about to take most of the troops off the frontline order and have them on no order and just micro them

[fringe shell]

why?

[indigo barn]

also wtf why is the united states invading japan when they aint even in this war so i cant even defend from them

[woven raft]

Don’t play the game skillfully and just use normal 18 width infantry

[fringe shell]

yeah that makes sens

[dusky burrow]

The Ratte is the cheap part

Costs less than 700 ic

Division is 32.5k ic

[woven raft]

Full 30 width Ratté only tank

I wish

Why is it limited to support company only😔

[near schooner]

bruhhrhrhr

[umbral agate]

do i need egypt for greater italy

[gentle violet]

ai need nerf never win single game near

[woven raft]

Games not really meant to be played past 1948

[nocturne cedar]

massive encirclements the AI managed to pull off

[fringe shell]

is it good?

[flat gazelle]

i use it

works well for holding the line and sometimes pushiny

pushing

[nocturne cedar]

for holding the line yes

[fringe shell]

so what should i use to push

[sharp sierra]

tanks or special forces

attacking units are usually big widths

[fringe shell]

hehe

[nocturne cedar]

tanks, mountaineers, or the offensive infantry...

[fringe shell]

1945

[nocturne cedar]

how dare you not have the italian dlc

[fringe shell]

yeah my bad

im thinking about buying no step back or la resistance

[nocturne cedar]

what dlcs do you have

[fringe shell]

man the guns and thats it

[nocturne cedar]

i'd recommend buying the subscription instead

considering how much all of the dlcs will cost ya

[fringe shell]

yeah i know but there is discount

[nocturne cedar]

still

[fringe shell]

but still

[nocturne cedar]

it might become free or etc

[fringe shell]

exacly

[nocturne cedar]

so its better for you to buy the subscription and get the rest of the dlcs

[fringe shell]

sub for now and wait till it will be free

[near schooner]

i demanded indochina, france accepted and then italy controls them

really

[sharp sierra]

my collars blue but muh neck is red

https://tenor.com/view/2025-brainrot-ben-jammins-benjammins-blue-collar-blue-collar-brainrot-gif-13106930033799890701

https://tenor.com/view/gassy-incredible-gassy-benjamminstv-benjaminstv-incredible-gas-gif-7850839708596794226

[gloomy current]

hey I have a question what is the best way to equip CAS more damage or more mobility I am in 1936

[near schooner]

incredible

[bright arrow]

yippie finally got the achievement

[halcyon pasture]

For mountains 25 or 32 width?

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[tiny iris]

Ok, I made a fascist Sapmi state but now the question is. How do I take Sweden?

[heavy vigil]

Why 25?

[tiny iris]

I have 3 cav divisions.

[nocturne cedar]

the AI alone is managings to reach moscow...

[languid copper]

Mountains are 50w

[tiny iris]

Do I ally with Germany and declare war?

[nocturne cedar]

for now just wait

[nocturne cedar]

no

[heavy vigil]

Correct, so?

You can exceed width by 33% and attack from multiple sides

Which is always better than just using normal width

[sudden thistle]

why do u change ur username so much rene

[languid copper]

I changed names for reasons, @rain sparrow suggested this one

[sudden thistle]

what does it even mean

[brittle cypress]

ca va

it's french

[languid copper]

old man

lmao

[indigo barn]

ah yes

[sudden thistle]

ok unc

[indigo barn]

china and china

and ofc china is at war with china

[languid copper]

it's also an Orthodox saint from Serbia

[dusky burrow]

Most normal China moment

[nocturne cedar]

thats the reason i don't play asian countries

[brittle cypress]

china will win

[north spoke]

youre stupid

china will obviously sweep

[zinc light]

nah I'm rooting for china

[heavy vigil]

No modern politics.

#server-rules

[buoyant lodge]

how do i supply my troops

in the ussr

the germans are dying

[tiny iris]

icvjhjhvejdcbjhcwb. Its impossible. You can't take Sapmi, the nation with no manpower, divisions, factories and capitulate Sweden.

Its impossible.

Its impossibleeeeeee.

Then Britain gurantee them.

Its so stupid.

What's the next achiement, capitulate the whole world as Iceland?

[buoyant lodge]

is the game still censored

in germany

?

[bright matrix]

Guys, give me ideas for mechanics that could be included in hoi4

I don't know much about what else can be released other than country focus.

[lusty river]

Was i fast lol

[lusty river]

Artillery designer 😭

[bright matrix]

No for the love of God, I don't understand how tank or infantry design works 🥀

Please if anyone can teach my brain

[heavy vigil]

Man designer

[zinc light]

the music in this mod has no business going this hard

[weary osprey]

I think there was something like that

Where you basically designed infantry? Or was it weapons

I think it was weapons

Including extra stuff that boosts certain stats

Kinda cool tbh

But it’s probably going to be same one design all the time

[icy crescent]

Every Finland become Sisu when puppeted.

[weary osprey]

Unless it’s balanced well

[weary osprey]

What is this 😂

[icy crescent]

Borderfail.

Was fighting for the wrong state.

[heavy vigil]

Yeah but i need to design my soldier like its SPORE

[weary osprey]

Haven’t played it but I think I get it
You were able to customise A LOT, right?

[heavy vigil]

Yeah i also havent played it tho lol

[weary osprey]

😅

[abstract kiln]

How does this even happen, entire relevant world is in allies.

[icy crescent]

Looks like a joint Stresa Front.

• when Soviets fall into civil war, the comintern faction kind of dissolves.
  Allowing them to join a faction, when common enemy.

Who declared war on the Soviet Republics?

[abstract kiln]

Soviet civil war

[quartz canyon]

Are engineers necessary for games I expect to be primarily on the offensive for?

[icy crescent]

Who else?

[abstract kiln]

That's literally it, soviet civil war auto declares on romania.

[icy crescent]

They demanded Moldava then, I guess.

[brittle cypress]

Depends on what you’re putting them on but they give terrain stats and other good bonuses so yeah

[quartz canyon]

9/3 infantry.

As Germany.

Also, I have them on 9/3 motorized, and when I make a new tank template, could put them there.

[brittle cypress]

I mean I can’t recommend that template

but yeah I guess

Include them

[quartz canyon]

I’m thinking of replacing then with the stormtrooper battalion support company the focus tree includes.

[quartz canyon]

The artillery buffs Prussian artillery doctrine grants makes them worth it,

[urban matrix]

Ww2 over a civil war

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[heavy vigil]

No its still bad

The buff applies universally to your division so you just want 1 artillery piece to get the buff

Not because artillery is good though

[lapis snow]

10% att 10% def is still trash

[quartz canyon]

It applies a buff solely to artillery.

[heavy vigil]

It applies to the whole div

Not just artillery

[heavy vigil]

But it doesnt

[quartz canyon]

The imperial German tree gets another artillery buff.

[quartz canyon]

The focus says it applies to artillery.

[lapis snow]

so? unless it negates the terrain penalties and width increase it is strictly not worth it

[heavy vigil]

Yeah but in reality it applies to your division on a state level

As long as it has artillery in it

Learned it from sheep

[quartz canyon]

Does that include support artillery?

[heavy vigil]

No

[quartz canyon]

L.

[quartz canyon]

Are 7/2’s good?

[sharp sierra]

meh

[crimson knot]

this is going... actually well? how did i manage to do that lol

[nocturne cedar]

when the hell are the soviets going to capitulate????

[lapis snow]

Sverdlovsk

[fair horizon]

when you do a collab government next time you play germany

[nocturne cedar]

i'm not germany

i'm the baltic unitary state

funny how

[fair horizon]

ah so you arent

[nocturne cedar]

early barbarosa

didn't end up terrible for the germans

cuz the soviets declared war on me in mid 1940

and i called the allies

[fair horizon]

wait how did germany do the greater germanic reich without leningrad?

[nocturne cedar]

i gave them leningrad

they own leningrad

[fair horizon]

ah i see

[daring tundra]

What paths do you guys want to have in the DLC?

[sharp sierra]

none just gibe it generic tree

[daring tundra]

I would love to see a path for Manchuria where you can get Puyi couped and get Zhang Xueliang as a leader of a KMT aligned Manchuria

And lead to an early limited war against Japan.

Kind of like Qing but more epic

[buoyant lodge]

is this good gng

[daring tundra]

As long as you have soldiers at all everything fine

[fair horizon]

any australia path which lets me bypass Establish Advisory War Council

even if it just went poof it would be fine

[wraith mauve]

w

If I delete mods will my game crash later

[buoyant lodge]

can i not enact some policy

where i conscript handicapped people

that'd be funni

[orchid lily]

Well

Technically there is scraping the barrel...

[buoyant lodge]

will the kids fight as well?

[wraith mauve]

Will it

[orchid lily]

Pretty sure yeah

[hollow pulsar]

the hoi4 mod folder keeps removing my .mod files for my manually installed mods and I will cry

[buoyant lodge]

awesome how do i get it

[safe wing]

I already got what I wanted

[orchid lily]

But you basically lose any form of civilian or military industry

[orchid lily]

In your country tab select conscription laws

[safe wing]

Kodha Japan being able to strike south and fascist Japan strike north

[orchid lily]

I just started a campaign as Italy in the great war redux mod and bro it is so boring 😭

[safe wing]

As of now you get railroaded into a certain expansion path as either the Kodha or Fascists

[orchid lily]

Never realized how much stuff happens in vanilla

[safe wing]

What did you expect?

[wraith mauve]

I need an awnser

[safe wing]

Are you planning on using the saves from the deleted mods

[wraith mauve]

No

[buoyant lodge]

my pure untrained infantry divisions did not workout gng

[safe wing]

your fine

[wraith mauve]

Cus I want to play tfr past 2030

[lapis snow]

what the

[nocturne cedar]

go watch Bittersteel's guide

[safe wing]

Italy fought 12 battles on the same river in WWI

Because the Austro Hungarians had the high ground

[orchid lily]

Well I only tried playing as Italy for now but they could have made a really interesting experience if they focused on the industrialization of the newly united country, I feel like they rely on the invasion of lybia too much

[safe wing]

Same

[slim nexus]

What did you expect 😭

[safe wing]

Can they form Rome in the GWRDX

[orchid lily]

Italy has a REALLY bad industry at the start and ramping it up is really hard

[orchid lily]

More chains of events that lead to industrialization for the great war

[buoyant lodge]

oh shit

[safe wing]

In vanilla or GWX

[buoyant lodge]

they encircled 30 of my divisions

[orchid lily]

Gwrdx

[safe wing]

I see

[orchid lily]

In vanilla Italy is really decent

[safe wing]

Not surprised

[orchid lily]

I really enjoyed playing as Italy in vanilla I feel like I will do it again

[slim nexus]

Tbf Italy only unified in the 1860s (iirc) so they wouldn’t be as prepared for war + its supposed to be more realistic of a mod I think

[safe wing]

Italy was extremely ill prepared for war in 1915

[slim nexus]

Yeah

[orchid lily]

Exactly that's why there should have been more focus paths that lead to better industry

[safe wing]

Didn’t help that Luigi Cardona led them

One of the worst generals of WWI

[slim nexus]

Wasn’t there a whole thing with gwrdx where they removed half of the focuses to make it more historical or sum

Or was that another mod

[orchid lily]

I dunno

[safe wing]

Sounds like KR atm

[slim nexus]

Yeah

[safe wing]

But they want to make their alt history realistic which is dumb imo

Its already unrealistic

[slim nexus]

I only like kaiserredux for the New England stuff tbh

[safe wing]

Especially Austria Hungary and the Ottoman empire being alive in 1936

[slim nexus]

I haven’t found a decent china mod recently

[safe wing]

Same

Im cautiously hopeful with the new dlc

Curious at how bad the KMT will be nerfed

[slim nexus]

I doubt they’ll do warlord focus trees which is annoying

[ivory goblet]

Chat, are we cooked?

[orchid lily]

I just finished a vanilla campaign of Italy (and lost lmao) and it was really fun, what other nation should I try next?

[slim nexus]

Like just give Ma Bufang a focus tree considering how interesting he was

[dusky burrow]

How

[orchid lily]

Purge them all

[agile perch]

germany

[safe wing]

Agreed but the warlords are extremely annoying in vanilla alt hist

[ivory goblet]

endless violence 😔

[dusky burrow]

By this point you should not exist

[slim nexus]

Fair

[safe wing]

Basically as Japan I got really close to capping China and one of them took it over which prolonged the war for another year

[orchid lily]

Tbh that was my first guess as well but last time I tried it sucked because I had to carry Italy as well since Italy Ai sucks

[ivory goblet]

Probably because stability is not garbage lol

[dusky burrow]

Sinkiang or Ma I'm assuming

[orchid lily]

I literally only lost because of the stupid balance of power feature that makes my country topple every time a naval invasion happens

[safe wing]

Yunnan

[sudden thistle]

cheats prob

[orchid lily]

Literally civil war with 100% stab

[ivory goblet]

From insane resistance I got 117 divisions

[safe wing]

I always put 5/0s on the coast as Italy

[dusky burrow]

Yunnan and Guangxi are relatively easy to kill

[safe wing]

True I was a noob back then as well

[orchid lily]

I can't garrison all of my coast they always find a way to land

[slim nexus]

I had a game where it was Xinjiang clique, Ma and Yunnan fighting for china as I was at war with them 😭

[safe wing]

Garrison the important parts (ports and cities)

[dusky burrow]

With Yunnan resort to paratroopers if you must

[orchid lily]

The problem aren't the landing themselves, I always push them back even encircling a few tens of divisions at a time

[vast wren]

YO I HAVENT CHECKED ON HOI4 MONTHS IS THE NEW JAPAN AND CHINA CONTENT REAL

[orchid lily]

But if they capture even one city the bop just plops

[safe wing]

Yes

[slim nexus]

Honestly I have no hope for the new doctrine system

[orchid lily]

Like this look

[nocturne cedar]

explain

[safe wing]

I have some hope tbh

[orchid lily]

They lose 1 million soldiers like nothing but I am the one risking a civil war every time this happens and not them

[slim nexus]

Like its either gonna be ass or really good and no in between

[sudden thistle]

u didnt even try it yet

try something before calling it bad

[safe wing]

Because only 2/4 of the doctrines are viable

[nocturne cedar]

so it'll be decent?

[safe wing]

Mobile warfare and superior firepower worked irl

[slim nexus]

Well yeah but knowing their history with certain dlc

[slim nexus]

Unlikely tbh

[safe wing]

Before gdr was TOA

And before NSB was BftB

[dusky burrow]

Technically no one used just mobile warfare or just superior firepower

[safe wing]

Country packs tend to be bad to garbage

[dusky burrow]

All the powers used a combination of all four doctrines

[slim nexus]

Yeah

[slim nexus]

I’ve been playing this game for too long on too many steam accounts 😭

[safe wing]

When did you start

I started in 2019

[slim nexus]

Like 2018 I think

I played hoi3 before tho

[random delta]

hearts of tuff

[safe wing]

Before Hoi4 I played age of empires 2

[slim nexus]

Lowkey I wish they never scrapped the Cold War game

[safe wing]

It would have been boring tbh

Unless they made proxy wars fun

[slim nexus]

Tbf think of the mod potential

[safe wing]

True

[slim nexus]

I know the internet archive has a working leaked beta of the game

Doesn’t work on win 11 I think

[wraith mauve]

Can somone tell me how to make my game go to a farther year

Because when I play fire rises my pc Cant make it to second European war

Anyone

[umbral agate]

is the rt56 italy the same as base?

[wraith mauve]

Dude just don’t play rt56

That mod is hot ass

[umbral agate]

im just curious

[wraith mauve]

If u wanna play a fun mod play tfr trust me

[random delta]

just tell him if the italy is the italy of sameings

[crimson knot]

I guess britain can just attack me trough a neutral iraq, the ai aint cheating it can just do that

[wraith mauve]

I don’t know

[slim nexus]

I’m praying they don’t half ass a Qing path in the dlc

[random delta]

now I AND I ALONE have access to ALL of the French fries and Belgian waffles! (also Italy got most of the war score for some reason)

[brittle cypress]

im stupid

i just tried tech swapping on something i was saving a bonus for

used a 100% bonus on construction 1 with 1 day left

[slim nexus]

rip

[heavy vigil]

Nice

[umbral agate]

yo casey do u play rt56?

i have a question about it

[slim nexus]

I hate that as soon as I learned navy they announced the navy rework the next day

[heavy vigil]

No

[umbral agate]

alr

[heavy vigil]

I vaguely know about it though

[umbral agate]

well i was gonna ask if italy as the same focus tree

i dont play rt56 and im going into a game

and i dont want to leave incase they start

[heavy vigil]

No clue

[slim nexus]

it doesn’t cause rt56 overhauls them, it might be similar though

[umbral agate]

alr well too late

[slim nexus]

It’s better than base game apparently

idk I don’t play rt56

[brittle cypress]

i played rt56 once in an mp game and i got stuck with the shitty rt56 focus tree

locked into an alt hist path at the start of the game

bs

[slim nexus]

How is it already 7;38 am 😭

[safe wing]

its 7:40 PM here

[slim nexus]

I’m in east Asia 😭

[rose prawn]

Yes

Afaik

Also you can change the focus trees the countries use at the game setup

there's a option to use whatever RT56 tree or vanilla

[hasty bear]

just a regular cursed day in HOI4

[meager valley]

Tbh it’s not a massive adjustment from vanilla once you played a few games

Just can be a little more cursed

[slim nexus]

Fair

[quasi basin]

ts hurts my eyes

[slim nexus]

I only played one country in rt56

[meager valley]

Like Anarcho Capitalism kinda aids

Idk I found RT56 to be too stable lol. Every game felt the same

[meager valley]

Which did you do?

[slim nexus]

I forget which one but it was a Middle Eastern one

[meager valley]

Never tried middleast in RT56 tbh. Maybe did Palestine once

[slim nexus]

It can reform a caliphate that in reality it has no reason to be able to reform

[meager valley]

Average HOI4 formable tbh. Morocco can reform Umayyad 😭

[slim nexus]

Yeah it was Palestine I forgot the English name

[slim nexus]

😭

[meager valley]

Morocco genuinely can core this in vanilla

Albeit hard to do

[slim nexus]

Interesting

[meager valley]

Has like an Israeli path and Arab conquest one I think?

[slim nexus]

Yeah I think

Idk I just did the Arab one

[meager valley]

Lowkey better ending imo

[slim nexus]

Real

[bright arrow]

Oh yeah baby, you guys are cooked

[dusky willow]

im getting slightly better at the game, i just need to remind myself to actually work on my infrantry divisions, not just tanks and stfuf

[slim nexus]

Honestly I only use infantry

[dusky willow]

ive been liking tanks because they pack a punch

[dusky willow]

get your ai slop OUT OF HERE

[hearty raven]

no its peak

[dusky willow]

"its peak"

proceeds to shove AI slop down throat

[brittle cypress]

what is this ai generated slop

banned

[pale trench]

Guys I need help really bad, I paused my game and went to the bathroom for a minute and now all of my troops are gone. Infantry/navy/airforce, everything just disappeared. Even my commanders and stuff. Even the troops of my allies. What the hell is going on

[brittle cypress]

lol??

[slim nexus]

peak and ai in the same sentence it’s over for humanity

[agile perch]

how do i move my planes brooooo

[slim nexus]

Build Airbases or whatever they called

[brittle cypress]

i dont know honestly can you send a screenshot?

that shouldn't happen

[agile perch]

yes i have

[slim nexus]

Do you have planes already out?

[agile perch]

No how do i do it

Im currently invading poland

[slim nexus]

Click on an airbase, there should be a button that has a plane and a plus in it

[pale trench]

Yeah hold on

[agile perch]

Ok 1 second let me see

[pale trench]

I just restarted my game and its still the same

[agile perch]

which one

[slim nexus]

ah it’s grayed out, have you made planes?

[agile perch]

Idk 💔 😭

is this good

i just started

[slim nexus]

You haven’t lost konigsburg so I’d say yeah

[agile perch]

Ok

[slim nexus]

I never really play Germany but when I do I never put divisions there cause I can push through from the full border easier

[agile perch]

yea, im winning

[pale trench]

I had so many troops, ships and planes dude theyre just gone. Also the ones of my Axis-allies.

[agile perch]

only problem is france 💀

[brittle cypress]

you were playing germany right?

who are you now lmao

[pale trench]

No im Algeria

[brittle cypress]

i have no idea what

[slim nexus]

Did you go through the lowlands first

[agile perch]

whats that

🥀

[slim nexus]

Like Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands

[pale trench]

Bro Ive been grinding for 6-7 hours straight just for this bruh im filing a lawsuit

[agile perch]

nah i havent taken them yet

[slim nexus]

You prolly should

[agile perch]

Ok

[slim nexus]

It’s easier than the maginot line

In my experience

[agile perch]

Ok

[robust spruce]

Started what

[agile perch]

HOI

[robust spruce]

NO WAIT

don’t listen to them

[agile perch]

what

[robust spruce]

Don’t take them until ur done Poland

[agile perch]

yea im focused on poland

[robust spruce]

After if u want u should invade Denmark easily then the others

[agile perch]

yea. iam

[pale trench]

Omfg the game auto saved the file just a few days before this bug happened thank god

[robust spruce]

GOOD BOY

[bright arrow]

I think i might have to wipe out every single person on the planet to win this war

[agile perch]

oh crap i might be cooked here

nvm

[bright arrow]

I just encirceld 130 divisons

[agile perch]

hes cooked

[bright arrow]

And there goes 5million people in less than a month

[safe wing]

All 2.3 Billion?

Because that was the population during the 1930s btw

I miscalculated btw

I thought it was 1

[robust spruce]

85 million out of 2 billion erased

that’s a lot right

[safe wing]

I thought WWII was 66-70 million

Are we counting the other conflicts from 1931 earlier as well

[slim nexus]

70-85 million

[safe wing]

Ah okay

[agile perch]

aaaaaand guess what happend

[slim nexus]

Rip

[agile perch]

im i dead now or what

[safe wing]

Speaking of Konigsberg I like everyone else always let the nazis take it in the German civil war

[slim nexus]

Real

[safe wing]

so I can prioritize the Eastern part

[bright arrow]

The soviets already have 25M casualties

[robust spruce]

How

[safe wing]

They suffered 30 million irl I thought (correct me if im wrong)

[bright arrow]

Well, this is WW3

[safe wing]

Ah okay didn’t know

[slim nexus]

26.6-27

[bright arrow]

If i added the casualties from the Axis war, it would probably be in the 40M

[safe wing]

Im terrible with numbers

[slim nexus]

Unless my source is wrong

(Wikipedia)

[bright arrow]

I myself have taken 6.34M casualties

[safe wing]

Anyways I’m gonna go to bed tonight

Gn

[slim nexus]

gn

I need to get up it’s like almost 9 am

[bright arrow]

Gn

hey look a unicorn

[slim nexus]

oh hey mao

[nocturne crown]

r we gon get refunded if we bought dlcs that r integrated into the base game

[misty fossil]

if you try and release subjects as france (to let them build factories) how do you start reintegrating them back

chiefly how do you get enough pp

[slim nexus]

I heavily doubt it

[agile perch]

ngl u had right i lost that shit 💔

[verbal bramble]

9/1 inf suck nowadays right

[misty fossil]

rate this

[misty fossil]

it has always sucked

people just came to the realisation that line artillery does suck big time and do away with it

[opal nymph]

The day artillery becomes 1 width might be the day it is useful

[quartz canyon]

What’s a good template for the right path of mass assault?

[agile perch]

Lowkey i wish Kalmar union would come back

[robust spruce]

How to unite allies all together

[agile perch]

honestly bro, i dont know wtf this is

i just started but it looks good ig

[burnt patrol]

This is my school mascot 😭😭😭

[dusky burrow]

Your stats are shockingly low

Like all of them

[misty fossil]

its from a video

[dusky burrow]

Soft attack, hard attack, and air attack

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxevWd01J7o

how do you do factory boosting by releasing colonies as france

you know, release colonies, let them do their focuses then reintegrate them

france ai in sheep's mod does that and im wondering if i can replicate it

[dusky burrow]

Harder to replicate in vanilla

Because Sheep's boosts the chance of French Union to 100%

(but it also makes you wait a lot)

[misty fossil]

damn

how do you do that technically

[violet narwhal]

I need Mil. dawn. is it brken or somethin?

[burnt patrol]

Ssry I sent tow times 🙁

[misty fossil]

is it possible to change the codes in the game or something

or console

[long leaf]

Guys. I am 30days clean of hoi4

[split bane]

You'll be back...

[long leaf]

Idk- gave up yt same time haha

[bright arrow]

ugh, there go my allies to die

[sharp sierra]

all of youtube

are yp reading books or something else then why give up all of youtube just dont watch mr beast shit

[split bane]

Prob frolicking in the fields with the sheep or whatever Welsh people do

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/geowizard-hiking-mission-gif-17617739393417131832

[nimble bane]

How fast can you cap Ethiopia?

[long leaf]

Lol- i used to make hoi4 content

[sharp sierra]

did u ever get views

[long leaf]

Im not welshh XD

[long leaf]

Ya haha streamed with tommykay

[sharp sierra]

oh interesting

[long leaf]

Massive flex ik

[sharp sierra]

yea i hate that guy a lot actually

jk

[long leaf]

OH TJATS WHY YA THINK IM WELSH

[uncut pollen]

Idk a few months or so

[long leaf]

Lmao i like him haha

[nimble bane]

I just got feb 22

[split bane]

What else am I meant to assume with the name Queen of Wales...

[uncut pollen]

Nice

[long leaf]

Ngl thought ya saw welsh wc

[uncut pollen]

I think i capped Austria in 1 month

[sharp sierra]

ur mom capped in 1 second at the sight of me

[long leaf]

Its one of my most known things lol

[long leaf]

Thats cap

Literally

[sharp sierra]

less than

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-fighting-smiling-friends-no-fight-stop-it-stop-arguing-gif-8713281799291953889

[nimble bane]

Agreed

[opal nymph]

Imagine if all the generals pressed H on their troops

The war would be over right

[agile perch]

this means i build them right or what

[uncut pollen]

It will

[opal nymph]

So why 3 separate lines instead of 1 line with 3

[uncut pollen]

But Just very slow

[agile perch]

bro idk what am doing

😭

[agile perch]

and wdym by that

what that mean

[uncut pollen]

I dont think so

[opal nymph]

So you have 3 production lines of heavy fighters, each with 1 green military factory

[uncut pollen]

Deleate the 2 and add the 2 facorys to that plane

[opal nymph]

You can delete 2 of those lines and put those 2 factories on the 1 heavy fighter

[sharp sierra]

i have this weird dogshit unit that i was using i just loaded my save back up

[agile perch]

uh

[sharp sierra]

idk what i was doing

i had mech battalions for more defense on my units with my limited manpower

[agile perch]

delete what 💔

[uncut pollen]

Idk what i am doing

But it works

[agile perch]

what lines bro

[agile perch]

oh

u want me to just delete 2 of them?

[nimble bane]

I don’t think anyone know what you were doing with that template

[opal nymph]

Yes and assign factories to 1 of the lines

[agile perch]

Ok

[agile perch]

ok so how do i do that

[opal nymph]

You see how the line has 1 mil factory

The green building

[agile perch]

yes

[opal nymph]

Hover over that area

And click the number of factories you want

OR you can press the plus and minus buttons

[agile perch]

wait 1 second dude

actually nah what green building dude

like where is it supposed to be

[agile perch]

oh

[agile perch]

on that fighter?

[agile perch]

Ok

[opal nymph]

On everything. Pick the number of factories you want on it

[agile perch]

Ok

[opal nymph]

Note you might get gray factories, but that is because you have already used all factories you currently have

[agile perch]

what about the boats

[opal nymph]

Have you played the tutorial btw

[agile perch]

Ok 👍

[agile perch]

no 😭

[opal nymph]

Please do that

[nimble bane]

It helps

[agile perch]

i did it

[opal nymph]

If you have no DLC, the tutorial is actually quite good

[agile perch]

Ok i will

[opal nymph]

You still have duplicate lines

[agile perch]

oh

[opal nymph]

But that won't matter since you will leave this game and play the tutorial

[agile perch]

ok

@opal nymph how do i deploy these

[nimble bane]

Does anyone know the A storm coming song glitch where it repeats at 40 seconds in?

[nimble bane]

Do you see the icons above them, press on them for different jobs

[agile perch]

Ok

[nimble bane]

Or do you mean new ones?

[agile perch]

I mean the one whos in my hangar or whatever it is

[rose radish]

decent chunk huh compared to my losses but dang hard to play with not much man power

[bright arrow]

im call it a night

tomorrow ill finish the evil capitalists

[nimble bane]

Are you against the entire world of communism?

[rose radish]

man cant wait to annex more territories and impose whatever these guys called shawarma law or something something i mean who doesnt like shawarma its good asf man

[bright arrow]

ignore the 120M dead

[nimble bane]

How are you in 1954?

[rose radish]

pretty much filthy comies i was just democratically annexing kuwait and then bohoo comie japan n france attacked me for it filthy comies

[bright arrow]

it was easy, you just need to get to 1953 and then wait a year

[nimble bane]

How long did it take to get to 1954?

[bright arrow]

i have no idea, but probably like 6h

[rose radish]

depends on your game for me took me about 8 hours to reach 43 hole lot of micro managing

[nimble bane]

I send volunteers to nationalist sPain and they arrive in Burgos which is land locked

[bright arrow]

Im playing as China so i can just yolo

Im doing an achievement run, so i need to see the whole thing through

Annoyingly as it may be

The US still had 15M more people

[nimble bane]

Your in for a long on

One*

[bright arrow]

If i had the power of the cheats i would have Thanos snapped the allies by now

[nimble bane]

If I had cheats I would make nationalist sPain better

The chaos slowly starts

The chaos grows

[robust spruce]

Hi, u just start?

[rose radish]

the long plan has worked hell yeah time to roast some japs chinks and cheese eating surrender monkeys hehehhehee

[nimble bane]

No

[robust spruce]

Ah ok

Hello anyway

is ur pfp the polish or Indonesian flag

[nimble bane]

Polish

[uneven portal]

brother this lacks dedication

if ur going amtracs go amtracs

[robust spruce]

Nice I love Poland

[uneven portal]

if ur going mech go mech

[robust spruce]

I’ve been to Warsaw before

[nimble bane]

Cool

[uneven portal]

depends who made the shawarma

some middle eastern guy? sure, its good

anyone else? no

[robust spruce]

I’m moving my naval forces to a port in England

To prepare for d-day

Gotta handle the Japanese front first

[rose radish]

ive tasted shawarma in the Philippines Indonesia n turkey by far the best in my experience was turkey just soo good

[nimble bane]

Wish you luck

Things are not going well with china

[spice turtle]

even the loading screen is censored lol

[rose radish]

yesssss baby

[spice turtle]

light work

[rose radish]

who knew desperate defense was good for this country im just imagining a bunch of old men who cant even barely walk using a wheel chair going across the dessert

[misty fossil]

its not my template

[misty fossil]

if you wanted to go MW you should have gone mobile infantry

at least your inf gets more org

tank org doesnt mean a whole lot since you need mechanised anyway

[nimble bane]

China’s cooked

[rose radish]

had some tanks but got screwed by a japanese naval invasion they did their purpose at that time and just kinda forgot to switch things up was just rushing that extra manpower

[misty fossil]

what country

gbp left would have been the best anyway since at least you have huge chunks of planning bonus

which directly translates to all non-org combat stats

or at least mass assault right

for the manpower and org wall

[rose radish]

its more like like light armoured mech inf its just a bunch of scraps from other countries vics either donated or captured

[misty fossil]

light tanks?

useless

lol

light armoured recon is good though since it boosts your div's attack and breakthrough

[nimble bane]

Medium tanks are the best

[misty fossil]

wanna know whats better

medium amphibious tanks

[rose radish]

IRAQ and i wasnt able to core saudi in time got but fkd by france hence why desperate defence

[misty fossil]

or maybe heavy amphibious

[hybrid galleon]

Democracy has landed!

[misty fossil]

rip

god bless 36w amphibious

[hybrid galleon]

needs more amphibious

[misty fossil]

nope thats the right amount

[rose radish]

interwar light tank bud

[misty fossil]

iw light is not good at all

at least you could have gone iw medium

i mean i dont play iraq so im in no position to judge

[rose radish]

focused all my resources on infantry equipment that time since A. no resources for it B. only got like 4 mils that time

[nimble bane]

I regret playing non-historical

[misty fossil]

then dont invest in tanks

go with special forces

air would have been much more important

you cant do anything without air

[rose radish]

had to since im planning to invade india, mainland france, italian AFRIKA, and Spain for a achievement

[rose radish]

true but at start only for 2 research slots focuse one on infantry one on economy

[misty fossil]

that sucks wow

[rose radish]

just when i reached 42 i got my 3rd slot 43 4th slot

[misty fossil]

yeah idk how to play bad minor nations

[sudden thistle]

lmao

[rose radish]

and thats why right now im doing Air in 1944 lmfao

tbh this is my 10th try as iraq this one by far was the most succesful

was also able to make a decent navy well not navy to be exact but just able to drop allot of mines at sea

[nimble bane]

As anyone seen this?

[rose radish]

you know you can screen shot right??/

just win shift S or ctrl printscrn

[nimble bane]

It would take 20 minutes with my pc

[rose radish]

whats your pc specs couldnt be that bad

[nimble bane]

It’s a 20 year old pc

[rose radish]

dang

mayble disable sum stuff on the settings then like reflections

[nimble bane]

And it takes a 5 minutes to load hoi4 menu, and then it sometimes stops loading when I’m trying to actually play and I have to restart my pc

It’s only the beginning

[craggy trail]

🐴

[nimble bane]

What you mean?

[opal nymph]

Casual 18k IC cost

But those stats

[misty fossil]

Not my playthrough

idk where all those ic costs came from

[hoary mortar]

I usually forget all the economic detials like IC and just run with what I got.
Pump factories until 1938 then build lots of mills constantly

Now gn lol happy weekend cya fellas!

[opal nymph]

Who cares about cost anyways

It is all about stats

[pseudo hazel]

any games avaiable to join?

[agile perch]

why is france so fkn strong bro

holy shit

[craggy trail]

These are terrible looking borders

[nimble bane]

Why can puppet have puppet?

[random delta]

should i go do a multiplayer thing soon?

[nimble bane]

I don’t knwo

Know*

My puppet has a puppet

Are you concerned?

And the German reich has a war goal on my puppet Italian Yugoslavia

[serene token]

Quickest civil war ever.

[lilac mango]

Subpuppet

[nimble bane]

Ok

[stark folio]

Guys I'm playing with Germany and I will try to defeat Soviet Union how can I do it?

[lilac mango]

Easily

Build attack aircrafts with~ 1200 km range

Get free buff in the form of poland first

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2tDbNYstc&t=970s&pp=ygUQc2hlZXAncyBtb2QgaG9pNA%3D%3D

[heavy vigil]

guys i just got into a near/disaster save does anyone wanna try to save me

[misty fossil]

show game

[lilac mango]

Huh 10k

[wary sparrow]

peak italy, only 6 hours in 😵‍💫

[heavy vigil]

youre gonna need 1 mod tho

[misty fossil]

ill look into this in the next few weeks

im locking in for my submission

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3067701869

you need this mod since it changes the map

[misty fossil]

you got a screenshot of the game

[wary sparrow]

all those pixels made me think they were individual islands lol

[lilac mango]

Another newbie

[misty fossil]

me?

[heavy vigil]

the mod isnt that good tbh

[patent maple]

tf why churchill declare war on united baltic duchy

fack

[lilac mango]

May you make the map understandable

[gusty oracle]

its in korean

[wary sparrow]

Bro I swear uk randomly declares on poor innocent countries, like they literally declared on democratic Yugoslavia in my last game

[patent maple]

💀

[lilac mango]

It wasn't democratic enough

[rose radish]

DANG them chinese are like zombie hordes or something

[wraith mauve]

I need a good naval invasion template

[rose radish]

for which country?

[wraith mauve]

Germany

[rose radish]

year?

[wraith mauve]

very early

139

1939

As soon as the war starts

[rose radish]

this is the template i mostly use early game since i dont rush n get marines

just make sure to disperse it well

2 inf on port 3 on the left side 3 on the right grids

make sure to micro manage but the ai would typically leave the island empty early game 39-40

make sure aswell to ready up a div filled with armor and inf as well once the port is captured send the rest in quick asap

But mind you its gonna be tricky with the new ai since will just put all of its navy in the uk

[wraith mauve]

Ok thanks

[rose radish]

this template of mine works most of the time early game but as ive advised micro manage it allot

[wraith mauve]

Ik thank you

[slim sigil]

ragebait

[rose radish]

ohhh you might also wna get floating harbor if possible early game itll make your life hella easier

[wraith mauve]

Ok

[rose radish]

here comes the hoard

[drifting igloo]

wait 2 million lost in a war is alot ?? as germany i lose like 4million every game

[rose radish]

im playing iraq bud my base pop is only a few mil

[toxic lotus]

Why at also why line arty?

[drifting igloo]

some nations give you a a boost for attack and def for it ...

like some can give up to like 60% boost before the army tree thing

[rose radish]

thats only a refference on my ger template stats are different since rn im playing as iraq

[rose radish]

line arty for stubborn infantry and support at for tanks dk why but every ger game i had uk always spam mediums by 40

[toxic lotus]

Ur aa can pirce it

Like 2

[rose radish]

true but i always forget making AA soo hahahaha ye

[keen terrace]

I found out the us joins no matter if japan attacks them or not

[atomic grove]

what path r u playing

[keen terrace]

I have to take out uk before they join

[atomic grove]

non democratic hashemite?

[keen terrace]

Can someone help me on how to deal with consumer goods

[atomic grove]

or fascist?

[atomic grove]

r u germany

[keen terrace]

It keeps increasing with mefo bills and war economy too

[keen terrace]

Yeah

[atomic grove]

kill your neighbours

[keen terrace]

No I already got the whole european mainland

[rose radish]

facist at first looks good since i can core locations then i noticed i can only core it if i won the war

[keen terrace]

Except for the soviet union and scandinavia

[atomic grove]

consumer goods from eoc will keep increasing

and the rate of it increasing gets higher the more non core territory u own

thats why u should put reichskommisariats/puppets

[keen terrace]

Is there a path that doesn’t have any consumer good increases

[keen terrace]

Ohh

[keen terrace]

I’ve been using gold reserves to get em down

But I think I already lost since the us joined

[atomic grove]

there is nothing you can do about it besides doing the decisions unless u do autarky achieved

[atomic grove]

there is

its called left path

however

the thing is

the left path doesnt give as much extra buffs as 4yplan

[keen terrace]

I dont have a navy for sealion and my airforce wont work anymore because the us brought 4k fighters out of nowhere

[keen terrace]

Hmm

[atomic grove]

ur usually supposed to always go 4yplan if ur fascist germany

[keen terrace]

Yeah I know

Free factories

[rose radish]

free factories but at a cost

[atomic grove]

and more

[rose radish]

in late game

[keen terrace]

Yeah I found out

This is my first game with the new update

Whole new focus tree and stuff

[misty fossil]

anything with line artillery sucks

[rose radish]

your better off taking the slow path still the same youll be strong enough economically just the first 6-8 months will be tough n a toll to building stuff

[misty fossil]

the reason is

[keen terrace]

Alright

[rose radish]

really always use that againts ai works well in my end but tbf i only play regular mode

[atomic grove]

sure

however the thing is

[keen terrace]

I’ll start a new game and try again because with the heavy rubber deficit I have it’ll take years for me to get enough fighters

[misty fossil]

1/ artillery sucks for defense
2/ artillery sucks overall because of low hp, reduces org and has low soft attack per combat width for offensives
3/ you can just use special forces
4/ tanks
talking about line arty here; arty support is s tier

[atomic grove]

mefo will only start taking a toll on ur economy

once its like 1939

or 1940

by that point

[misty fossil]

works but there are better ways to not waste your brain power on

[atomic grove]

u should start conquering your neighbours

and robbing all their resources and gold

[keen terrace]

Use Czech gold and martial law

[atomic grove]

theres no way u use martial law on czechia

it has compliance

[keen terrace]

I use martial law on everything

[atomic grove]

why r u using martial law there

[rose radish]

special forces are great but man i always forgot about em the same with AA

[misty fossil]

lol

[atomic grove]

u should do that but switch martial law with local police force

[keen terrace]

Alright

[atomic grove]

its much better

[rose radish]

why just use local police force

[atomic grove]

use civilian oversight on states with 50%+ comp

[rose radish]

then some spies on naughty naughty areas

[misty fossil]

@rose radish

32w is good for mountains

36w for anything thats not mountains

[keen terrace]

Isn’t it just better to cancel mefo bills completely

[atomic grove]

use mountaineers as india

and youll see

just how good they are

[misty fossil]

no

its your death knell

[atomic grove]

absolutely not

[rose radish]

i havent played india yet

[atomic grove]

you will be stuck

[misty fossil]

maintain mefo and cap the soviets to get autarky achieved

[atomic grove]

with 75% consumer goods

[keen terrace]

I have only 900 hours so I don’t know what’s the smartest move for everyone situation yet

[atomic grove]

that is a pain in the ass for the whole game

[misty fossil]

i have 900 hours too

[atomic grove]

how do u have 900 hours but dont know these

[keen terrace]

I played mods for most of those 900 hours

[misty fossil]

i too played mods

[keen terrace]

Like the great war and old world blues

[misty fossil]

vanilla lowkey mid

[atomic grove]

you're missing out on the fun nations

[keen terrace]

I have like 200-300 hours on vanilla

[rose radish]

its aight i have this amount of hours and i still dont know sht ingame hahahahhaa

just love to micromanage things

[misty fossil]

i played eaw, tfr, owb, rt56

spent a lot of time on eaw

[keen terrace]

Mostly as turkey

[misty fossil]

because i dont wanna wc in south america

[keen terrace]

But turkey became boring

[misty fossil]

are you a turk

[atomic grove]

thats why

[keen terrace]

Yeah

[atomic grove]

turkey has a billion focuses but most of them are 70 days

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-man-gif-19334490

[atomic grove]

thats why it isnt quite as fun as the others

[heavy vigil]

germant is annoying to learn because you have to know every game mechanic but you should be familiar with most

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-turkish-car-happy-dance-gif-17367602

[heavy vigil]

not good at them but know how to read them maybe

[misty fossil]

germany is the easiest

read the tooltip

[heavy vigil]

ussr is easy too

[misty fossil]

hoi4 is just a reading and spreadsheet game with 3d models

[keen terrace]

I know how the game works but the problem with germany are the constant increasing consumer goods and during the war I dont have a source for rubber

[misty fossil]

nah

[heavy vigil]

refineries:

[misty fossil]

a bit harder than germany

[keen terrace]

Yeah I agree that germany was easier to play than turkey

[heavy vigil]

and the consumer goods arent a big deal

just steal gold sometimes

[keen terrace]

I need to have a ton

[heavy vigil]

do price controls

[heavy vigil]

just do ur techs

[keen terrace]

I have the last tech for rubber and still a 41 rubber deficit