hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

Notice how both air attack and agility improved?

HMGs are the best guns you can mount on a plane

[silent root]

I need more chromium

[misty fossil]

Can you trade with turkey

try to use less chromium on tanks i think

how much chromium are you making

go to closed economy and research some excavation techs/take some of those prospecting decisions

[silent root]

turkey is at war with me

[misty fossil]

rip

[misty fossil]

no turkey this thanksgiving then

that sucks

How many mils on planes

you have 13k so thats not a big of a deal anymore - convert some planes

[silent root]

180

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-komaru-cat-cat-eyes-emoji-eyes-emoji-meme-mugimeshi-gif-17542565321648643365

you only need 50

you were producing a ton of mid planes

and you def need radar stations

[silent root]

no

150 is alr

[misty fossil]

go down strategic destruction for your doctrines - pick the options for air superiority

its the best for trading along with operational integrity

assign aces to your fighter wings

boom you win

ez

[eternal palm]

Micro your aces 🗣️

[misty fossil]

creep help this fellow win the air war

[eternal palm]

SD gives better strat bombing and naval mission efficiency aswell as give fighter bonuses earlier

[misty fossil]

Yes

i also use that because i love my aircraft carriers

[eternal palm]

What is this

[silent root]

plain

[silent root]

on the air

they got 40k airplanes

[misty fossil]

told him to swap out the defensive guns and armour plates

360km is abysmal

[eternal palm]

360km range 💀

[misty fossil]

2 plates, 1 drop tank, 1 self sealing

british malaya exists bro

[eternal palm]

Don't use double engine, use cannons 2's and for the love of god don't use armor plates on agi designer

[eternal palm]

2 extra fuel tanks 1 plate

It's agi designer his range is ass

[safe wing]

I put two factories on AA guns

[misty fossil]

nah 1 tank will suffice imo

[eternal palm]

It won't

Trust me it won't

[misty fossil]

or just go back to turboprop

2 turboprop

[eternal palm]

There's a reason you do 2 extra fuel

[misty fossil]

Does turbofan engines exist in vanilla

[eternal palm]

Also drop tanks are ass? I meant extra fuel

[misty fossil]

extra fuel is ass

[eternal palm]

What 💀

[misty fossil]

too much air defence drop

i meant drop tanks

[eternal palm]

It literally isn't

[misty fossil]

it is

[eternal palm]

Idk what u talking about bro

That 2 air defense is nothing

Especially on agi designer

[silent root]

Its better

[eternal palm]

Like nice air defense when you don't have mission efficency

[gleaming iron]

can someone help me in #modding

[eternal palm]

And yet you wonder why you're lacking chromium and why you don't have 40k planes

And if it is better than what I'm suggesting, why are you still loosing

[silent root]

I kinda fixed it

[eternal palm]

All I said I've used to beat very similar scenarios

[silent root]

Am not losing rally

really*

its a slatemate

[eternal palm]

You're not winning

With my suggestion you might start winning

[misty fossil]

I think his divisions are also bad

[silent root]

I am winning very slowly

[misty fossil]

hes doing quite a few things wrong i think

[silent root]

40 witdh tanks mechanized

[misty fossil]

go with 36w

Show templates for tank and line divs

[safe wing]

10/8 correct

[silent root]

my divisions are fine

[safe wing]

yeah...

[silent root]

I pushed from france until here

[misty fossil]

I dont know anything about modding so sorry

[silent root]

and the line units are alr they can't push me

[gleaming iron]

oh my goshh

[silent root]

they litterly have 100m casualties 🙏

supply is the problem

[eternal palm]

Ouch

That hurts

[silent root]

this litterly helped me push whole divisions stacks...

[silent root]

besides I can afford it

[eternal palm]

Yea it has good stats it's just over width and expensive as shit

Also stats could be higher

[silent root]

expensive isn't a problem for me considering my production

[eternal palm]

Then why don't you use flame tanks, rangers and mev?

[orchid lily]

Let me guess

[eternal palm]

If u have IC to spare no excuse to not use flame tanks

[orchid lily]

Germany?

[silent root]

Because I never really thought of them

[eternal palm]

Unfortunate. Those are some of the best companies in the game

Also maintenance does nothing. Might aswell not have it

[silent root]

I should prob put logistics company

[silent root]

The empire

yeah I might have underestimated some companys

[sudden thistle]

What year is it

Nvm creepage got to u first

[willow plume]

Should be good for supply

[silent root]

1958

[hollow narwhal]

i wonder has anyone ever done this tree since the dlc came out LMAO

[sudden thistle]

Once

[eternal palm]

It's good in theory but you just don't have time lmao

[indigo violet]

I always pick autonomy and then leave it alone

[eternal palm]

It's like the additional propaganda stuff for the soviets. Yea 10% attack against everyone is good, I just don't have time

[indigo violet]

Maybe when I run out of focuses to do

[eternal palm]

Maybe

I'd do navy tree before doing this 💀

More sf cap

[silent root]

I had enough

[indigo violet]

I literally never touch that navy tree

[eternal palm]

There's a funny build where you can get fighter 3 in 1940 with innovative warfare

[indigo violet]

Unless I have to satisfy the navy guys

[eternal palm]

With Hungarian fighter comp you can have cannon 2 e4 f3 in 1940

[eternal palm]

Sad, there's some funny stuff in there

You're able to print heavy cruisers

For 25 convoys

[indigo violet]

True

Still barely do it

I put more focus on army and air

[slow kraken]

is it possible to do the nuke debug cheat anymore?

[maiden inlet]

Nope

You gotta use something else to nuke now

[slow kraken]

ughhhh game got boring

[maiden inlet]

You can always go back to old versions yk

[silent root]

damn he was right

[indigo violet]

Only thing i really dont like is how the nuke console command doesnt give thermo nukes…

Quite sad

[amber finch]

will buy Hoi4 today 😄 little overwhelmed i must say. .

[maiden inlet]

You will regret it later, but go on, buy it

[indigo violet]

Also am I the only one who always researches field hospital and larps to save as many of my people as possible?

[silent root]

don't worry you will get addicted in no time : D

[silent root]

bro is the red cross

[indigo violet]

The first 100 hours will be painful, after that you will love it

[amber finch]

damn 😄

[sudden thistle]

Oh?

[eternal palm]

Yep

It's funny

[maiden inlet]

Because you’ll lose all emotions after 100 hours

[indigo violet]

._.

exactly!

[eternal palm]

That's a bit dramatic

[maiden inlet]

Just like war thunder ^^

[indigo violet]

[eternal palm]

I'm at 6k rn I still feel stuff

[eternal palm]

No war thunder is ass

[maiden inlet]

WITCH!!!!

[sudden thistle]

Why not now

[eternal palm]

Who would ever play that shit ass game

[maiden inlet]

…

Me?

[eternal palm]

U just can't endure the shit I endured in this game

[amber finch]

waiting for a refund

[eternal palm]

Disaster saves are building your character

[sudden thistle]

I agree

[eternal palm]

[willow plume]

At first its super hard

[sudden thistle]

(I will still play it)

[eternal palm]

I'm so sorry to hear that 😔

[willow plume]

But U get the hang of it after a couple hundred hours

[silent root]

I litterly learned how to play hoi4 through hoi4 youtubers

[maiden inlet]

I have too little disaster saves rn

[maiden inlet]

I learned how to play through trial and error

[eternal palm]

That's what learning is

[silent root]

@eternal palm send over your flamerthrower tank design

[eternal palm]

Duh

[silent root]

also that

[eternal palm]

What's the magic word

[silent root]

please

[sudden thistle]

U caved in it seems

[flat gazelle]

6k..?

[eternal palm]

What about it

[silent root]

After 1.5k hours of hoi4 ill use flamethrower tanks and support tank

[eternal palm]

Antasil is on his way to 11k idk what you're on about

[maiden inlet]

I’ll use this later just incase

[flat gazelle]

6k as in 250 full days

[eternal palm]

Yes.

I've been playing this game for close to 6 years too

I got it on December 13th 2019

[silent root]

Can I put flamethrowers on modern tanks?

[eternal palm]

Nah

Has to be light heavy or medium

[willow plume]

bros basically a 5 star general now

[eternal palm]

Moderns suck anyhow

[eternal palm]

Despite my hours I'm still not good at this game

I'm alright

I used to be better

[flat gazelle]

thats less than a year before me

and im at 1600

[willow plume]

same here

[eternal palm]

Ouch

[willow plume]

im at like 300 now

[indigo violet]

I got the game in like, 2020 i think

[sudden thistle]

Sure you are

[indigo violet]

Or smth like that

[maiden inlet]

I got it in like late 2023

[eternal palm]

Nah there are people with 2k and less that would absolutely trash me

[indigo violet]

Shortly after no step back i believe

[eternal palm]

I only know shit I'm not good at executing it

[silent root]

um what is this support company?

[eternal palm]

I can barely do csc on my own

[eternal palm]

Mev

[maiden inlet]

All i know how to do is take poland, the benelux, france, denmark and norway, nothing else

[willow plume]

maybe u just need practice

[sudden thistle]

I forget half the shit and I’m too lazy to do the other meta shit

[eternal palm]

Bro at 6k you think I do 💀

[willow plume]

to put theory to good use

[eternal palm]

I'm not asking for advice

[visual pasture]

how to navy

[flat gazelle]

did you know

that

[eternal palm]

I'm saying that I played a lot of mp and that I didn't keep up with it

[flat gazelle]

1/8th

of your time

since that day

[eternal palm]

Yes

[flat gazelle]

has been spent playing hoi4

[sudden thistle]

So what u gotta do is spam out 7/2’s 🗣️

[eternal palm]

I've done the math

[eternal palm]

RIGHT

THANK YOU

[willow plume]

what are 7/2s?

[sudden thistle]

7 inf 2 arty

[eternal palm]

Oh you sweet summer child

[sudden thistle]

(Bad)

[flat gazelle]

used to spam 7/2s and 14/4 on sp years ago

[eternal palm]

Don't bother trying it

[flat gazelle]

those were the days

[willow plume]

7 inf battalions and 2 arty battalions?

[eternal palm]

NSB truly was a magical time

[willow plume]

in a div

[eternal palm]

BBA was peak hoi4

[willow plume]

14/4?

[sudden thistle]

Years ago I didn’t even know I could edit templates

[eternal palm]

Anything after that was bloated and sloppy

[sudden thistle]

I just spammed the default div

[eternal palm]

Same as 7/2 just with more stuff

[eternal palm]

That's funnily enough better than making 7/2s kek

[willow plume]

ahh ok

[flat gazelle]

but wait

7/2s were actually good back then right

i wasnt an idiot

because now im not sure

[eternal palm]

No they were always shit

[sudden thistle]

Guys rate my encirclement

[flat gazelle]

fym

[eternal palm]

Just before rb existed nobody bothered to check

[flat gazelle]

i mean if your definition of shit is not 100% meta then yeah maybe

[eternal palm]

The youtubers had too much power

[flat gazelle]

but they worked wonders in sp

[sudden thistle]

They still do

[flat gazelle]

at least thats what i remember

[willow plume]

this goes hard ngl

[eternal palm]

Yea the problem with that is that hoi4 is a sandbox game. Just because it works doesn't mean its good or can't be improved

Hoi4 is not a hard game after all

And some people swearing that sfp got nerfed in nsb are wrong and even if did, gbp was and is still better

Sfp was never good

[safe wing]

Fall of the Republic as the Hutts meanwhile:

And Divide et Impera as a barbarian Tribe

[eternal palm]

💀

[safe wing]

Are much harder

[eternal palm]

You're lucky I got that reference

I haven't played that actually

Man i need to get back into eaw

[safe wing]

Your roster is weaker than the republic and confederacy by the late game

To get good stuff you have to capture it

[flat gazelle]

maybe that means i should stop brainlessly picking it every run

[eternal palm]

Mass mob is more brainless

Just pick that

[flat gazelle]

sfp has a cooler icon tho you forgot to consider that

i just pick what looks nice

[eternal palm]

Good one

"Vibes are better on mw"

I mean if you just wanna larp, sure

[flat gazelle]

it was a joke

[eternal palm]

I got that

I'm not dense

I'm just german

Small difference

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-stare-gif-10183112911298969236

feel bad for you

[eternal palm]

Why though

[flat gazelle]

your language is ass ive been learning it for 4 years

[eternal palm]

I'm not taking shit from the mass murderer pfp

[flat gazelle]

idk what you mean

he saved 20% of humanity

[eternal palm]

:clueless:

[flat gazelle]

my hero

just dont ask about the 80%

[silent root]

I can't believe am pushing

also wth

[orchid lily]

In just a month I turned the tide of the war from decent advantage on our side to this may be the end of us

[orchid lily]

24 divisions of infantry dead because of failed attempts at naval invasions, Africa fallen because France can't do crap on its own, division shortage and ww1-like trench warfare in Egypt

Fleet is dead so no more hopes of naval invasions in Britain which means 30 d day attempts a month and fully efficient convoys is just a tale of a long gone time

Hope could be restored if Russia falls but the invasion is slowing down

[urban ivy]

maybe make proper divisions

[orchid lily]

How does that have to do with anything 💔

[urban ivy]

you wouldnt lose divisions on naval invasions

u woudlnt have trench warfare in egypt

[orchid lily]

Egypt is like the last of my concerns, even if I pushed back I would have hundreds of kms of desert to cross before making any gains that could actually weaken the enemy, I got the big part in the north and that's all that matters for now, I failed the naval invasions cuz my fleet is special and can't do what it's told properly

[misty fossil]

it absolutely does

you make bad divisions and wonder why you lose?

i doubt italy is that newbie friendly of a nation

you cant just send 10 9/1 divs into dover expecting it to not be encircled and die

that is if you arent convoy raided to death

[keen agate]

Ong cro i aint reading allat 🥀 💔 😔 ✌️

[flat gazelle]

guys

did they claim memel?

[soft tendon]

I can feel the pain in his Switzerland 🥀 🥀 🥀

[flat gazelle]

peak gameplay

[keen agate]

Switzerland so niche 😇🥹

[safe wing]

Mass mob is the best doctrine for Italy

prove me wrong

[slim nexus]

Yall have this aswell when you have a big army but you are in multiple wars leading to most soldiers not assigned to orders bro i just experienced that shit

[bright arrow]

Switzerland has the most balls to the wall insane focus tree

[slim nexus]

Real

[safe wing]

Why would Italy give up its most industalized reigon

[flat gazelle]

italy litterally didnt lose a single state?

wdym

[slim nexus]

Isnt that spain

[bright arrow]

Be France, stand up to German Aggression, but give up one of your most important territories to Switzerland just because they asked

[flat gazelle]

greatest focus oat?

lmao france actually pushed germany

[safe wing]

Well Switzerland can demand the Po Valley and Piedmonte

[devout trench]

swiss focus tree is something i dare not to ever touch

[flat gazelle]

swiss focus tree is so overhated

[bright arrow]

And rightiously

[flat gazelle]

idk what yall expected from a country literally known mostly for its neutrality

[safe wing]

and out of italys 20 starting mills 14 are in Piedmont and the Po Valley

7 in each

[slim nexus]

Would yall rather get obliterated by 6 dudes

Or

play historical bhutan

[devout trench]

historical bhutan isnt bad...

[safe wing]

historical

[slim nexus]

I'd rather get obliterated

[bright arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/grow-up-meme-ok-serious-gif-25638777

Bhutan gameplay

[safe wing]

nah its like watching an AI only game

[devout trench]

i have done 3 or 4 bhutan games

very fun

[slim nexus]

Real

[soft tendon]

the hell is non-historical ai doin

[slim nexus]

Am i the only one or does anyone use console commands to get more political power

[soft tendon]

cheater

[flat gazelle]

avg experiance using mods that add states

[slim nexus]

It's the only thing i do tho

I cheated back then tho

Tho

[devout trench]

only in kaiserreich i do that

[slim nexus]

I do that in old europe 1300

[flat gazelle]

why play a 1300 mod in a ww2 game

[willow plume]

i use allowdiplo sometimes

[flat gazelle]

just play eu4 atp

[willow plume]

justifying is not fun

[slim nexus]

I wanna spend money i bought hoi4 and my budget went down

Now i live under a bridge

[devout trench]

eu4 gets sold for like

2-4 USD on sales

[slim nexus]

I do have ck2

But that's too complicated

[devout trench]

ck3 is much better...

[slim nexus]

No shit

What more do i need to say

Hoi4 is like the most simple game

If you understand it

[orchid lily]

I don't have bad divisions

[misty fossil]

show

'bad' is a relative term

[orchid lily]

In a min

But I got 9 infantry 2 arty and 1 AA

[river orchid]

am i cooked

[misty fossil]

yea thats a bad division

anything with arty is bad because it lowers HP and org

[slim nexus]

How tf is germany in russia

[river orchid]

they lot stalingrad and moscow

ussr capitulated

[misty fossil]

dont tell me youre using that for offensives

[river orchid]

lost*

[river orchid]

no

[devout trench]

grand battleplan removes the need for org

[misty fossil]

never use line arty

nor AA

[river orchid]

focusing on defense obviously

[misty fossil]

oh sorry i was talking to splish

[orchid lily]

Not really

[river orchid]

ight

[orchid lily]

For the naval invasions I used marines and only a couple of those divs

[misty fossil]

just get rid of line AA and arty

you should have amphib tanks

[orchid lily]

I'm not getting amphib tanks bro 💔

[misty fossil]

why

[willow plume]

arty is bad?

[frank estuary]

Decent trade?

[misty fossil]

pdx made it so bad for some reason

[devout trench]

holy production cost

[river orchid]

🙏

[misty fossil]

"our place in the sun" ahh image

[orchid lily]

I'm playing on an older version when did it become bad

[misty fossil]

its always been bad

[jovial bough]

Take out the AA dude

[willow plume]

bruh why

[misty fossil]

if you want to push at least use your marines

[willow plume]

even support companies?

[misty fossil]

never use line inf to push

[slim nexus]

How would y'all rate the aztecs in old europe from 1/10 🥹✌️

[misty fossil]

support arty is S tier

not line though

[orchid lily]

I use mech/arm divisions to push

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snipping-supertool-gif-19434006

[orchid lily]

Line inf is to in face hold the line

[willow plume]

got it

[willow plume]

this is true

unless u cant afford tanks

[misty fossil]

then your supply sucks

[willow plume]

then u have no choice

[misty fossil]

if you cant afford tanks

play a major

[orchid lily]

Do you even enjoy playing this game?

It sound like you don't

[misty fossil]

yeah

[willow plume]

bruh minor countries are more fun

[devout trench]

if only the eu4 potraits were this fire

[slim nexus]

Real

[misty fossil]

uwaahh im not having fun

[slim nexus]

I didn't even play it

[misty fossil]

totally

[devout trench]

what is that general 💔

[misty fossil]

equestria at war

[devout trench]

every single god damn trait in the game

[misty fossil]

mlp mod for hoi4

[devout trench]

i know what equestria at war is

[river orchid]

ass mod

[slim nexus]

I once got michael jackson as general idek why

[misty fossil]

thats what she said

[willow plume]

lmao wth

[devout trench]

but why does the general have every single trait 😭

[misty fossil]

doesnt seem to be good at his job

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dipshinn-dipshinn2-dipshinn3-gif-8837515333497809557

[bright arrow]

Heee heee

[misty fossil]

have you considered the possibility she was born smart

or he

idk

[river orchid]

mj is gonna sing billie jean and his men are all gonna moonwalk towards the enemy

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/dipshinn-dipshinn2-dipshinn3-gif-8837515333497809557

[devout trench]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[willow plume]

1000 soft attack and 500 hard attack

[river orchid]

🙏

[slim nexus]

Michael jackson was kidnapped to congo and was forced to be alex taylor and he only knew how to sing but the congolese people forced him to play chess and then the the Russians came to "liberate" congo from their ongoing civil war and alex taylor had to counter but he didn't have rights but rumours say he escaped to cupertino

[willow plume]

0.1 supply use per tile

[devout trench]

cupertino weather is always perfect compared to mine

[slim nexus]

Plot twist the second american civil war happened and he was forced to be a general again (tfr)

[sudden grotto]

Funny how Rommel in ww1 managed to capture 10k Italians with Just 150 men

[slim nexus]

But For the commies cuz the commies were in California

[safe wing]

this good for defensive purposes

[devout trench]

no...

[safe wing]

Its the Standard Italian Infantry division with a support AA added

[devout trench]

why are we using italian templates

[safe wing]

I'm going mass mob

[slim nexus]

When the bideners won the civil war michael jackson was in jail but michael Jackson sings the song "they don't really care about us" and all the prisoners sing with him and then the police officers sing with him and the sergeant becomes grumpy but the police officers told him to sing with jackson and he singed with them and danced and Michael Jackson was freed and he released the new song "i love freedom " where he sings about his life in congo and then cupertino and then brownies for some reason (yes the brownies part was unnecessary for the story)

[bright arrow]

Guys, is every dlc the name of a focus from a specific nation?

[safe wing]

because I'm Italy?

[devout trench]

italian default templates are horrible

[safe wing]

I changed it I added two infantry battalions

[devout trench]

js mass mob

[willow plume]

mass mob?

[safe wing]

a doctrine

[willow plume]

mass mobilisation

ohhh thats the name for the sovie doctrine

[safe wing]

one of the paths

the other is deep battle

[willow plume]

deep battle is what they used irl

[flat gazelle]

damn china is losing harddd

[willow plume]

if i remember correctly

[misty fossil]

deep battle sucks in hoi

[flat gazelle]

never seen it get this bad in 1940

[misty fossil]

just go down mass mob (right path)

[willow plume]

ok so always go right

thats what ive been doing

[safe wing]

same

[misty fossil]

Yeah

if you want anything else thats not mass mob then gbp left

[willow plume]

japans still gonna declare war on the usa even after they win

gbp left?

[frank estuary]

These divisions are stuck in this tile, continuously farming xp and I have no idea why.

[misty fossil]

grand battle plan then assault

its because planning bonus is multiplicative

not additive

[willow plume]

whose doctrine was that irl?

[flat gazelle]

ik

[misty fossil]

if you have a +20% from terrain and +90% planning then you dont get +110%, but rather 1.2x1.9

so thats like +228% or something

[willow plume]

they always do that

[safe wing]

which is better as Italy

[willow plume]

even on non historical

[misty fossil]

?

[safe wing]

Assault (GBP) or Mass mob (Mass Assault)

[misty fossil]

assault

italy sucks but it has some men

[safe wing]

fair

[misty fossil]

just dont waste it on pushing with rubbish divisions

dont waste people's lives basically, common sense stuff

[safe wing]

Going to Invite Austria to my faction

[willow plume]

mass mob is soo good honestly

[safe wing]

so tanks

[willow plume]

since u only need 10% to deploy

[safe wing]

anyways I just weakend Germany

[willow plume]

how?

[safe wing]

I allied Austria

[misty fossil]

you need a navy and air before you need tanks

so weigh your decisions carefully

[bright arrow]

Wont they Anschluss austria from you?

[willow plume]

air is important

cas is very effective

[misty fossil]

wanna know what else is

[safe wing]

if you do Italy first before Anschuluss fires Austria will want to join you

[willow plume]

then u can go to war with them

[misty fossil]

navy

[safe wing]

if they are in a faction no

[willow plume]

tanks are expensive as hell

[misty fossil]

you need to take gibraltar, malta and cyprus and greece anyway, so i think its better to not invest in tanks

go with 32w 8 marines 8 mountaineers

[safe wing]

true going to invest in Marines instead

[bright arrow]

Invest in Navy

[willow plume]

how effective are mountaineers

[safe wing]

and that too

[misty fossil]

this but 8-8 and no AT or anything

[willow plume]

ive just been using regular inf up until now

[misty fossil]

ever had to go hiking on a mountain?

[bright arrow]

You can't do much as Italy if Uk has Med superiority

[misty fossil]

i did that... didnt like it

you need a really fit body for that, which is what mountaineers are for

[robust spruce]

bro I regret buying eu4

[misty fossil]

they climb places no men can

[robust spruce]

I didn’t know it’s not as war as much as hoi4 is

[willow plume]

ahhh

[misty fossil]

i literally told you to not buy eu4

thats on you

[bright arrow]

Which game is eu4 again?

[willow plume]

so theyre much better than regular inf

[bright arrow]

I confuse all the paradox ones

[misty fossil]

europa universalis 4

[misty fossil]

yes

[robust spruce]

I waned to try something new then hoi4 but ig ima have to stick back to hoi4

[willow plume]

i usually make paratroopers

for my special forces

[flat gazelle]

wym

[misty fossil]

dont forget to hover your mouse over the icons over here as well

[bright arrow]

Isnt eu5 coming out too?

[misty fossil]

read the tooltip

[robust spruce]

yeah November

[misty fossil]

as i said stellaris would have been a much better option because
1/ its scifi and scifi is fun
2/ its much easier to learn than hoi4
3/ you have amazing mods with amazing stuff

[sly elm]

historical is on...... (rt 56, playing as mandate of palestine, did nothing)

[misty fossil]

you cant look at a planet-sized battlestation and say it sucks

[bright arrow]

I remember last Christmas Stelaris was under 2€ on steam

(base obvs)

[misty fossil]

as with every other hoi4 game, stellaris is most fun when you buy all the dlcs

but if you have the money i 100% recommend the whole thing

[bright arrow]

Yeah but it has a 90+% discount on

[willow plume]

how much industry do u get?

[sly elm]

4 civs

[willow plume]

damn

[robust spruce]

what’s stellaris if I must ask

[willow plume]

not a single mil

[snow rain]

paradox space game

[sly elm]

im rich frfr

[glacial oasis]

im
cautiously optimistic for the next few dlcs

[misty fossil]

RTS game in space

you build a space empire

[snow rain]

stellaris is broken since 4.0 tbf
each patch somehow breaks more things

[robust spruce]

ooh

[willow plume]

4 civs isnt beyond saving

[misty fossil]

i have more hours in stellaris than i have in this game

its more fun than hoi too

[willow plume]

if u do focuses u should be able to get another 3-4 civs and mils

manpower is the hard part

[robust spruce]

@misty fossil Ill buy it on Black Friday

[misty fossil]

alright

[willow plume]

but just make mechanized divisions ig

[misty fossil]

u alr bought eu4 so i suggest you try to learn that

[sly elm]

game plan: independence, kill the french in syria, kill the israeli's if they revolt

[misty fossil]

so at least it wouldnt be a waste of money

[flat gazelle]

eu4 is goated but only with the dlcs honestly

[robust spruce]

wait can u still refund I only bought it 3 days ago

[flat gazelle]

base sucks from what i remember

[misty fossil]

then do it

[flat gazelle]

if you played less than 2 hours

[willow plume]

the thing with taking colonies

[flat gazelle]

on steam at least

[willow plume]

is that u have to strike very fast

before they can reinforce their colonies

otherwise ur cooked

[robust spruce]

Alr bet

I can

[sly elm]

not my first time playing in the middle east XD

i once capped all the colonies in the middle east (france and UK) as türkiye

[willow plume]

yo thats nice

turkey starts out with a decent eco though

[orchid lily]

50+ divisions GONE

[willow plume]

and army

[willow plume]

thats good

[robust spruce]

will eu5 just be another eu4 where the game will be hard to learn

[misty fossil]

i dont know

im not interested in eu5 at the moment

the only gripe i have with eu4 is the troop handling system and i really hate it

[sly elm]

howd i pull lawrence of arabia IN WW2?!?!

[robust spruce]

fr

[flat gazelle]

as if hoi4 aint hard to learn

[flat gazelle]

whats wrong with it tho

you're not gonna have frontlines in a game set in 1440

[robust spruce]

it’s so easy

?

[misty fossil]

and thats the problem

you have to micro every single regiment around

ugh i hate it

sm

[orchid lily]

They lost almost a MILLION soldiers in that encirclement

dear lord lmao

[flat gazelle]

oh no playing the game 😭

[sly elm]

i have 1 mil LETS GO

[flat gazelle]

time to start making heavy tanks

[robust spruce]

2.6

that’s crazy cuz I didn’t even play that much

[willow plume]

they arent gonna recover from that

[orchid lily]

they always do somehow

[willow plume]

u just gotta carry out operation sealion now

[mellow jetty]

Where is Captain America, now that they need him the most..

[robust spruce]

Alr guys im finally gonna play hoi4 on hard

I always play on regular

[orchid lily]

dawg i wish i was a bit more patient 😭

i already attempted it and failed miserably

[sly elm]

10/10 my entire nation became a demilitarized zone except jerusalem

[willow plume]

bruh what happened

[sly elm]

its part of the rt 56 focus tree

[willow plume]

damn thats a shame

[sly elm]

i got 7 divisions from the focus tree 🔥

[willow plume]

im guessing u got destroyed by the allies?

[sly elm]

and this guy with insane attack

[willow plume]

ehh hes only level 2

[sly elm]

no, UK just lets you go

[willow plume]

i mean u attacked french syria right?

[minor blaze]

how much org is considered "good"?

[sly elm]

not yet

[orchid lily]

it's whatever

[orchid lily]

hopefully i can try again when the ussr falls

if it falls...

[sly elm]

in 1936 thats good

[orchid lily]

COME ON WERE LIKE 2 TILES AWAY

[willow plume]

a lot of other coutnries get like level 4 and 5

esp majors

[sly elm]

new focus tree jumpscare

[visual pasture]

man this is hell

[flat gazelle]

i rarely ever see them do that on historical

[minor blaze]

999 army xp?? 😭

[visual pasture]

nowhere else to spend 😭

[flat gazelle]

1956 😭

why even bother atp

[minor blaze]

that germany flag looks badass tho icl

[minor blaze]

dawg are u at war with everyone

theres so much wrong with this

[minor blaze]

koningsberg is its own nation??!?!?!

[flat gazelle]

can someone tell ma bufang that its not a united front if he's alone in it

[dry kayak]

finally i won a dam game after 250hr of hard retry lol

[visual pasture]

i boosted communist ideology in Britain till they switched and peaced out with everyone, then they joined my faction and started a war with germany faction (it was actually led by France tho), i initially couldnt be bothered to join them and just staged a coup in Scandinavia and Australia and then sent voluunters (the scandinavians just got bogged down in north Sweden tho). Then i finally joined the war and here we are 💀

[flat gazelle]

1955 😭

how do people play for that long

[visual pasture]

and the soviet union is still standing somehow

[dry kayak]

i used the weakest major faction and had several betray

survived and gained all at ironman mod

[minor blaze]

why do the balkans look like that

[visual pasture]

AI be like

[dry kayak]

puppets

[minor blaze]

german transitional government??

[dry kayak]

i make them a lot, they produce factories and troops

[flat gazelle]

bro can they attack me already

im bored ash

august 1941 and im just sitting here building shit

[minor blaze]

what does africa look like

[flat gazelle]

2 days later

lmao

[orchid lily]

NOOO

I FORGOT ABOUT THE BALANCE OF POWER 😭

[visual pasture]

(most of eastern USSR was occupied by the US till my voluunters liberated all of the east on their own)

yea idk why there are 2 diff chinas

and both them aint the original one 😭

[minor blaze]

why is there so much wrong

US occupies japan?

[visual pasture]

US invaded japan at some point

[dry kayak]

i had like tens of chinas lol

[visual pasture]

ah this is a thing

africa is a mess too

[minor blaze]

egypt is independent 😁 😁 🇪🇬

[bright arrow]

2 Communist countries fighting for colonies in Africa 😍

[visual pasture]

somehow we got the all legendary empire of the desert

[flat gazelle]

40 destroyers gone in 1 battle 😭

[bright arrow]

Why didn't the US in Rl put 200 destroyers in a single naval task? Were they stupid

[flat gazelle]

900 people to 120k

[flat gazelle]

fr tho

[visual pasture]

forget having a generic dude portrait

simply nothing 😭

[minor blaze]

awh

[sly elm]

Crazy

[bright arrow]

Spain whenever they go that one path be like

[minor blaze]

show us the map

[sly elm]

i have more mils and civs than anyone could ever need!

[simple citrus]

nothing ever happens

[minor blaze]

RT56?

[sly elm]

yup

[simple citrus]

is it gonna be stuck like that forever or sum shi

[bright arrow]

They are on the 30 day period?

[simple citrus]

nvm something just happened

canada declared war on britain

[bright arrow]

Ok, i think your game is cooked

[simple citrus]

entente vs internationale

[bright arrow]

Is that KR or KX?

[simple citrus]

???? why so

[simple citrus]

kr

[bright arrow]

Cuz WCA isn't supposed chill in 1940

[simple citrus]

lmfao

uh well

gonna be waiting then idk

[visual pasture]

casualties are interesting

[flat gazelle]

i wonder just how outragous i can make this get

1k to 130k i crazy

[simple citrus]

ew syndicalist

[visual pasture]

they went historical at first

[simple citrus]

island

[sly elm]

''island''

[visual pasture]

but then i just boosted them enough

to go communist

[simple citrus]

i think their capital is City, State

[simple citrus]

don't tell me that please

i'm eating right now

i don wan all my food to end up on the floor

[sly elm]

LETS GO

[bright arrow]

Oh god, you are playing in the Unholy lands

[simple citrus]

huh

i didn't notice that

third balkan war when

1940 already

[bright arrow]

Your game is cooked, do you have any other mods besides KR installed?

[simple citrus]

tfr

but i turned it off

[bright arrow]

Your US civil war is stuck, and the *fourth balkan should have popped by now

[simple citrus]

my goat Marcello
I

[simple citrus]

oh

uh

[bright arrow]

Show me the balkans

[simple citrus]

reminded me of how i lost 200 cruisers and 167 destroyers as qing government when i first played kaiserreich

[flat gazelle]

i love how i can send fighters to my enemy

[bright arrow]

Yup your entire game has been deep fried

[flat gazelle]

we're literally at war yet i can send fighters

[bright arrow]

You'll want to reset that playthrough, and make sure you dont have other mods active interfering with the AI or gamerules

[simple citrus]

aw man

u

uhhh

tf

[minor blaze]

egypt 😍

[limber gyro]

Hi

[simple citrus]

before i do i'm gonna try something

basically i used the command panel to play as serbia and create the belgrade pact

and increased balkan cooperation as greece

now i'll wait

[sly elm]

how am i actually winning if they have support from UK and USA

[green moss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3576711455

[green moss]

are you playing as Palestine in RT56?

[simple citrus]

why isn't it french republic

third or whatever it was

french state

[green moss]

fascists came to power

[simple citrus]

oh dang i thought monarchists did

[green moss]

could be German occupation too

[sly elm]

cause i revolted from the UK, france imploded and is in a civil war currently

[simple citrus]

like state of japan or sum shi or like imperial state of persia

[simple citrus]

i wanna see a civil war in france

can i take a little peek pwease

[sly elm]

and the soviet union is green

butterfly effect

[simple citrus]

THE RED MENACE IS LOOMING OVER ALL OF US- fym it's green now

[sly elm]

historical is on
things that happened cause i revolted (i think)

• french civil war
• jordan revolting too
• soviet union but greener

[simple citrus]

THE SECOND I DID THAT

THE SECOND WELTKRIEG FINALLY STARTED

dam i thought that playthrough was absolutely done for

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[orchid lily]

guys hows this marines template?

[halcyon scroll]

First try on Eastern showdown

[orchid lily]

i lowk have no idea what im doing 😭

[halcyon scroll]

Uh

I lost 20% land in 2 months

[halcyon scroll]

normal ya. Idk just add some enginner

[simple citrus]

ukraine irl did infinitely better brauh 💔

[halcyon scroll]

Yeah

I have 0 defense on their suprise naval invasion event

[orchid lily]

im going to invade britain where should i attack

[simple citrus]

atp you can js ignore the realism press ~ button and type in annex rus

[halcyon scroll]

I accidently pulled my elite troop from donbass

Then russia just spam blitz troop and dmy frontline r broke

[sly elm]

update,

• syria rose up

[simple citrus]

twin irl they were trying to naval invade odessa as well

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[halcyon scroll]

I dont know where it is uhhh

[simple citrus]

bessarabia

[halcyon scroll]

They have tons of decision

I dont even know where it located

The places name

[simple citrus]

right there

[flat gazelle]

yeah hirohito twin

im not sure if that was a good idea

[halcyon scroll]

o ye

Btw i have to micro 300+ bridage

[simple citrus]

HOW MUCH?????????????

30

300

[halcyon scroll]

Ye it the starting amount of ur army

and it not enough to fill the line

[simple citrus]

BRU I'VE NEVER GOTTEN MORE THAN 200 DIVISIONS IN HOI4

[halcyon scroll]

u need like 500 to deal with all events and frontline

[simple citrus]

300 BRIGADES

smh twin

[halcyon scroll]

Yeah

I just got

encricled

40 of em in first month

who can micro them all 🥀

go try it and know the pain lol

[simple citrus]

~ then manpower then pp 2 times then xp then tag rus then manpower 1000000000000000 then pp -500 then st -100 then tag ukr and then wait

smh wondering why our generals didnt do allat irl

[halcyon scroll]

Sar manpower dosent help when most of my troop are garrasion. Facing a tank with rifle

[simple citrus]

js delete their entire army twin ✌️

[halcyon scroll]

btw ukraine have only 12 fighter 48 CAS at first

[simple citrus]

dealing with dpr and lpr (non-existant failed states btw) wont be hard with 300 brigades

[shut pilot]

i got a problem that when i try to move my troops by sea it says i gotta wait 70 days after that they still dont move

[simple citrus]

are you allowed to land on that port

[shut pilot]

yes

its mine

[simple citrus]

well that's something wit yo game then

[halcyon scroll]

i mean They combined with russia tank. I cant pull my troop to blitz belarus direction assault. So my garrasion cant move to eastern front

[shut pilot]

i guess...

[halcyon scroll]

U gotta download that mod and know the pain

[simple citrus]

if it's your its supposed to be really easy to move troops

[simple citrus]

twin i'm experiencing allat irl for 3 years straight

i know the pain trust me

[halcyon scroll]

[flat gazelle]

huh

somehow i can take stuff from norway

after defeating japan

[orchid lily]

NO WAY VICHY FRANCE REDEEMS ITSELF AFTER BEING USELESS THE WHOLE GAME??

[flat gazelle]

so based

[simple citrus]

REPUBLIC OF THAILAND

?????????????????????????

BASED

never speak up again

republic of cambodia too

worst asia ever smh

[flat gazelle]

and republic of vietnam

[simple citrus]

i'm okay with republic of vietnam

even with republic of laos

[daring tundra]

You always have the option to play some play store strategy game for a straight-up game

[simple citrus]

but thailand and cambodia

[simple citrus]

it's like republic of japan

disgusting

horrendous

abominable

[daring tundra]

Others prefer some engaging game mechanics that make the game more complex and realistic

[robust spruce]

guys

is the 1939 starting date good

[daring tundra]

No

[flat gazelle]

"complex and realistic" about hoi4

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[simple citrus]

no

[daring tundra]

Comparatively

[simple citrus]

mmmm

[robust spruce]

Elaborate on why

[simple citrus]

enkiklement

[daring tundra]

Compared to the available alternatives, it is. Unless you can cite a game that makes it better, in which case I would look it up

[simple citrus]

metaxs router on gre k

[robust spruce]

bro what?

[spare laurel]

yeah over 40 Russian Divisions

[robust spruce]

what does this even mean

[simple citrus]

won't elaborate further

find out yourself

[robust spruce]

bud

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-dudeman-im-a-dudeman-dudeman-dude-man-hotel-transylvania-niche-gif-3841041839540156512

[robust spruce]

1st now u can’t spell and u don’t wanna say why 1939 isn’t a good starting date

[daring tundra]

I may be chronically ig. I saw the river and instantly thought Northern Ukraine/southern Belarus

[robust spruce]

why

[simple citrus]

twin there's babrujsk in the upper left corner of the screen

[simple citrus]

no shi it's belarus

[spare laurel]

nice nice

[daring tundra]

I hadn't zoomed

[robust spruce]

@spare laurel why isn’t 1939 a good starting date

[simple citrus]

no czevaslokia

[daring tundra]

Suboptimal preparation for war, no margin for alt-history, you are locked into several paths in military and otherwise development, etc

[simple citrus]

no czoslevakaia - bab stat date

[spare laurel]

you cant choose paths that you want

[simple citrus]

or that

[daring tundra]

Also, I often find more enticing the preparation than the war itself

[robust spruce]

Alr 1936 it is

[simple citrus]

war is boring

i play hoi4 for fun focuses and uh

um

[robust spruce]

ykw since I’m gonna do 1936 ima turn on the road to 56 mos

mod

[simple citrus]

bombing netherlands

[daring tundra]

Hoi4 is what happens while you are managing the German card game in Kaiserreich

[flat gazelle]

i play hoi4 for slop dlcs and cancer achievements

[robust spruce]

L mod

They removed the fun for "realism"

[simple citrus]

oooh free balatro

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-echidna-lick-gif-5999064628241931956

might play as germany for once

[daring tundra]

Mate, you are offered the best of both worlds. Kaiserredux handles the schizo stuff, Kaiserreich is the elaborated version

[simple citrus]

oh so i should've downloaded kaiserredux instead of kaiserreich

damn

[robust spruce]

what is the difference

[simple citrus]

i spent 700 mb of my internet for that mod grrr!!!!!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-anime-gif-18161374

[daring tundra]

Give a chance to kaiserreich. It is very fun, just in a different wat

[flat gazelle]

the brazilian dday

[robust spruce]

what is the difference between kaiserredux and kaiserreich

[simple citrus]

as in dookie day or sum

lmfao 1 tank division

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[daring tundra]

In Kaiserreich, while having significantly less schizo paths, you get much more in depth politics system and lore, events,etc. Kaiserredux is a bit less polished but is funnier for people who like vanilla-like schizo stuff

[flat gazelle]

dont underestimate the brazilians

[robust spruce]

Alr kaiserredux is it then lemme download it

[daring tundra]

In Kaiserreich, you are building your own story. In Kaiserredux, you turn your country's way 50 times to create the Christian Khanate of Patagonia or some shit

[daring tundra]

You do you

[flat gazelle]

the brazilians have liberated the netherlands

[robust spruce]

so kaiserredux is goofy?

[daring tundra]

Look up some videos. I watched something about ghost Lenin ruling Tibet and getting cores on the world or something

The pre-1936 lore is similar although the KX one is Kaiserreich's one of some patches ago

[robust spruce]

The only hoi4 DLCs I have are really old ones

[orchid lily]

americans are trying to land 40 divisions in my cores for the 10th time 💔

enough hoi4 for today

how do they still have war support bro 😭

they lost like 20 landings and every time they do one at least 15 divisions end up encircled and die

[flat gazelle]

i dont think the axis has any convoys left

[robust spruce]

what are u playing as

[flat gazelle]

usa

[robust spruce]

nice

I’ve had this game since 2017

And forgot to do naval invasions

[warped flint]

I got 3 hours of sleep

i need hoi4

[warped flint]

This is also 3 hours without hoi4

[orchid lily]

Has the Icelandic pride of the fleet accomplished this?

[flat gazelle]

what is this

[halcyon scroll]

british style

Naval invasionn

[flat gazelle]

the icelandic pride of the fleet is a relic of the past

[halcyon scroll]

if u dont support em they gonna get encircled

[amber finch]

no idea what all those numbers are 😄

[halcyon scroll]

lol

[toxic cypress]

gonna need alot more navy to cover all my supply routes

[flat gazelle]

bro what are you doing

winston man