hoi4-general

[safe wing]

Yes

Japan focused

[random snow]

Why are paradox trying to make hoi4 more complicated than it has to be

[green moss]

Netherlands if it locked in

[visual pasture]

with kiwi carriers of all things

[random snow]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[willow plume]

why would anyone agree to that?

[south mountain]

HOI4 becomes ww1 after 1943 🙏

[random snow]

THATS WHAT I SAID

They are mad because i did the focus that built bismarck and tirpitz

[willow plume]

tbh germany should focus on subs

for maximum historical accuracy

[paper echo]

whats yall opinion about the new doctrine thing

[flat gazelle]

more flexibility is nice ig

[misty fossil]

the humble 20k soft attack tank division:

[random snow]

I just lost 2 aircraft carriers

damn british

[flat gazelle]

imagine even building navy

couldnt be me

[misty fossil]

reload

[random snow]

it autosaved

[cedar lance]

yo

[misty fossil]

rip

[random snow]

I just found out why

[cedar lance]

how is there a ranger unit in hoi4?

[random snow]

when i trained my carriers i didnt train the pilots

[sudden wasp]

Rip docs

[willow plume]

lmao

[willow plume]

theyve added a new doctrine ?

[misty fossil]

it doesnt matter

the moment they die they lose all exp

[flat gazelle]

the doctrines are getting a rework

[drifting igloo]

Are carriers a movable airport?

[random snow]

Aircraft carrier take a guess

[drifting igloo]

I realize when I said it

[willow plume]

yo thats nice

[willow plume]

yeah theyre pretty important ships

even more so in real life

[cedar lance]

when were the Ranger unit added?

[echo basin]

Listen the only two good things about the new dlc is that we get more asian focus trees and the allie thingy but the doctrine thingy is just....

https://youtu.be/eLsCjMSxxqU?si=pMO5NvBGuqYu_2HF

I mean with the current one

[drifting igloo]

Will there ever be mot special forces

[echo basin]

You lose the comfort with the old one

Bc you knew that these oen was specifically for blitzkrieg

And that one was for supperior

Now its just.....ehh

[cedar lance]

answer this please

[willow plume]

so the new doctrines are more complicated?

[echo basin]

Im gonna miss the old doctrine alot

[willow plume]

is it a dlc

[echo basin]

Yeah

Now you have to edit them

[willow plume]

or is the base game getting changed?

[willow plume]

EDIT THEM?

[echo basin]

Depents

[echo basin]

Yeah you will not anymore unlock more now you have to edit,pick the right ones,pick those that will fit with your army,your future

[gleaming iron]

I DID IT

I RULE NOW

oh andwhy is it still saying 1939 in next election

when its 1942

[willow plume]

hey

congrats man

[gleaming iron]

thanks man

[flat gazelle]

because paradox makes slop

[willow plume]

sounds hard but interesting

wait

[gleaming iron]

oh and im at war with iran

[willow plume]

ur a dominion

[cedar lance]

yo

[willow plume]

so not quite free yet

i think

[gleaming iron]

because of ussr and britian attacking iran

[cedar lance]

when did they add the ranger unit?

[willow plume]

ur in the same position as canada and aus if i understand correctly

[flat gazelle]

why do you care so much about the ranger unit 😭

[cedar lance]

becus i wanna use it

[gleaming iron]

its considered as independence day, india was a dominian till 1950, but independence = 1947. dominian is independence for india before becoming a republic(autonomy = free, in hoi4)

[flat gazelle]

yeah but how does the date when it was added change anything

[willow plume]

rangers are like mountain infantry right?

[willow plume]

ahhhh that makes sense

[stoic portal]

i would really be sad if the allies loose i can only defend not attack😭

[echo basin]

Can we have 1942 start dates💔

[flat gazelle]

dw they wont lose

i dont think its even possible for the german ai to win

[zinc rune]

general vs capybara

[flat gazelle]

ive never seen it on historical

[stoic portal]

i hope😭

[lapis snow]

With special forces changes in AAT

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[pearl jackal]

help, how do i win the german civil war?

[random snow]

i swiped the british navy in a peace deal

[pearl jackal]

i keep dying

[stoic portal]

still wondering what i did to get the defense and things that i managed to get this outcome

[flat gazelle]

i usually put the 24 shitty divs you get to just cover the front and use the 15 actually decent ones to cut bavaria off and then kill off the encirlced troops

and after that its a walk in the park

[pearl jackal]

alr

thx

[flat gazelle]

gotta be top 1 feelings in hoi4

[stoic portal]

yes

[flat gazelle]

i remember that as finland i had probably like 50k casualties for over 2mil soviets

[stoic portal]

grazy

[pearl jackal]

damn how are u surviving as the netherlands

[flat gazelle]

fair to say that the argentinian economy isnt best suited to an army

[inland violet]

nah u good dw

[gritty fjord]

uhhh how can germany take 13m losses and still be fighting well lol

[flat gazelle]

no way

paradox actually cared enough to make a check for sending volunteers here??

[stoic portal]

i dunno really

[misty fossil]

you did good

[misty fossil]

thats a crazy top heavy fleet

[echo basin]

Paradox really messed us up with the new doctrine system

[pearl jackal]

i got clapped even after speedrunning benelux and european president

germany gave me too little time to have a strong eu tho

[gritty fjord]

welp i just won a game playing as democratic Belgium for the first time

[pearl jackal]

and i had like sweden, romania, greece on my side

or smth like that

[stoic portal]

grazyyyyyyyyyyy

[echo basin]

Opinion om the new doctrine system

[stoic portal]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[pearl jackal]

nice

[stoic portal]

nvm they died

[gritty fjord]

i can only give an opinion once i have tried it but to me it looks weird

[sudden thistle]

Hm

[echo basin]

With the old one you just had to remember the line pattern like left right...now its the same as mf navy

[willow plume]

germany would be too op

[sudden thistle]

That’s still low

I get that number in 39

[gritty fjord]

tbf it might be better cause u can mix and match different doctrines

but we will wait and see

[echo basin]

Ehh i dont like it too complicated and too much for new players

[flat gazelle]

its a shame there arent more possibilities like this in this game

theres so many wars that should have an option to peace out after achieving something

[gritty fjord]

i agree with that just from the pics of it alone

[ornate marlin]

is new dlc included in dlc pass?

[gritty fjord]

i aint gonna do that much reading i just click stuff lol

[gritty fjord]

yes the expansion pass 2

[willow plume]

same here lol

[ornate marlin]

na i mean the subscription

[echo basin]

2hours for 2 doctine vid💔💔💔💔

[gritty fjord]

i dont know but more then likely

[misty fossil]

you just made yourself a mortal enemy

[gritty fjord]

Uhh

[cedar lance]

so they are gonna add a combat ranger battalion in the dlc

[misty fossil]

i will now proceed to blast your domicile with a planetary superlaser

[gritty fjord]

Tbf you could probably afford one if u didn’t buy all the dlcs 🤣

[flat gazelle]

fire argentina gameplay

i could probably already end this run earlier if i just went to war with spain as thats what im after

but i decided to at least get brazil before that

to actually play the game for once instead of just going after achievements

[cedar lance]

once the RANGERS combat battalion is added im gonna make a couple templates with ONLY Rangers

[flat gazelle]

bro really loves rangers

[cedar lance]

yes i do

ill make like a Ranger regiment battalion company brigade div and corps

[willow plume]

why do u like rangers so much?

[cedar lance]

becus theyre cool and awesome to use

[maiden inlet]

Which dlc is that i forgot

[willow plume]

yeah thats fair enough

[gleaming iron]

ill build some i guess

[willow plume]

wait u havent been autobuilding mils and civs?

[cedar lance]

im making and recruiting these templates with ONLY rangers

[willow plume]

u should always have something queued up

[gleaming iron]

i have some

[willow plume]

never let ur industry be idle

[flat gazelle]

the south american one

[gleaming iron]

but not millitary factories

[flat gazelle]

idek the name

[maiden inlet]

Alr

[flat gazelle]

i mean which other one could possibly expand argentina

[willow plume]

hmmm mils are cheaper than civs

so thats what id build

[lapis snow]

Whut?

[flat gazelle]

?

[pearl jackal]

tysm that actually worked rly well

[flat gazelle]

np

[lapis snow]

Rangers is AAT, special forces doctrines

[cursive oxide]

How to para drop the UK?

[gleaming iron]

im making some not so suspicious nuclear factories

only one

[flat gazelle]

peak gameplay

no clue why peru got that one random state in amazon tho

[willow plume]

idk anything about nukes in hoi4

but u get them late game

[gleaming iron]

im in 1942

[cedar lance]

ill make like a Ranger regiment battalion company brigade div and corps
as Templates

[languid patrol]

what nation is it eastest to form the scandaivnain empire

[languid patrol]

nordic union

[frank igloo]

dprk focus tree when

[gleaming iron]

oh and i dont like to just ban specific spectrum parties

[sudden thistle]

What’s the difference between those 2

But I think Sweden

[gleaming iron]

so i had to just so happen to lose 16% of democracy supporters when i became a dominion

[willow plume]

id say the same thing

[flat gazelle]

wait you cant naval invade from mil access anymore?

[willow plume]

theyre the largest nordic country

[gleaming iron]

where should i spend my 1800 political power

[willow plume]

whats the point of mil access if u cant attack using it

[frank igloo]

its called we doing a little trolling

[flat gazelle]

you never could attack through it tho

and it would be op if you could

[gleaming iron]

where should i spend my 1800 political power

[willow plume]

still

[sudden thistle]

Advisors

Decisions

[gleaming iron]

already done

[sudden thistle]

Industrial concerns

[gleaming iron]

not banning parties

[sudden thistle]

Army command

[gleaming iron]

where

[gleaming iron]

done

[sudden thistle]

Military theorists

[gleaming iron]

done

[sudden thistle]

Next to theorists

[willow plume]

yeah sometimes i also end up in the same situation

i think u get loads of pp on civilian difficulty

[fringe shell]

why

[willow plume]

so theres no need to worry at all about it

[gleaming iron]

oh those

done

[green moss]

running in circles

[brittle cypress]

Green Comintern with no Soviets

amazing

[gleaming iron]

i was saving up for no reason while spending some too

[fringe shell]

yea and both democratic

[gleaming iron]

ww1 christmas leaked footage

[willow plume]

maybe u could justify on someone

[flat gazelle]

the famous argetinian naval invasion of spain

[willow plume]

reverse colonisation

[green moss]

it's just friends that decided to halt all units for a sec

[cedar lance]

should i use the Ranger combat battalion like a LOT?

[willow plume]

if u want to then yeah

[cedar lance]

alr

[flat gazelle]

also wtf i just created a faction with vichy france

makes it so much easier for me

dont even have to naval invade them now

[fallen vigil]

whats better?

[flat gazelle]

i usually go with the top one

doesnt make that big of a difference anyway tho

[pearl jackal]

hi chat, should i play democratic germany or kaiser germany

[fringe shell]

kaiser

[pearl jackal]

alr

[maiden inlet]

Kaiser

[fringe shell]

with mods or vanilla?

[pearl jackal]

vanila

[empty plume]

is the new doctrine rework part of the free upd?

[fringe shell]

maybe try this mod Der Traum des Kaisers

[pearl jackal]

ok but rn im playing

maybe next time

[fair horizon]

didnt even take chile yet 🥀

[gleaming iron]

who wins in THIS situation

me or siam?

[fair horizon]

mountains and no supply, whoever has enough cas

[glass lark]

haiii :3

[fringe shell]

what should i play?

[maiden inlet]

Hi

[fringe shell]

you know any good mods or nation

[flat gazelle]

scenes

[glass lark]

am i allowed to ask a question regarding a decision in TNO or does that go in modding

[flat gazelle]

350k spanish people died because the argentinians got mad about colonziation

[glass lark]

woah

[willow plume]

lots of mountains

and supply is likely to be bad

[maiden inlet]

Likely? Its already terrible

[willow plume]

i feel like its gonna be a stalemate

[flat gazelle]

modding probably

tho you can also ask here ig

based

surprisingly fun ngl

i expected it to be a chore

[maiden inlet]

Are you achievement hunting?

[fair horizon]

nah SA nations are quite strong

[flat gazelle]

you could say that

[maiden inlet]

This only affects what your gonna be in the german civil war

[glass lark]

hmmm

[maiden inlet]

If you wanna be SS, go heydrixh

[willow plume]

wait cas is that effective?

i need to start use cas more then

[pearl jackal]

excuse me

what should i do

[fair horizon]

if it has enough supply and isnt screwed over by fighters? its the single best division in the game

[maiden inlet]

Ignore them, im sure they’re weaker than germany, right?

[flat gazelle]

if you go the second option you can get queen victoria and restore hre

[pearl jackal]

so invade?

[pearl jackal]

hindenberg crashed

[glass lark]

gonna choose the least morally grey option, speer.

[willow plume]

getting air superiority is the hard part ig

[maiden inlet]

If you want ig?

[pearl jackal]

yeah but they have 3-14 divisions

i have 15

[flat gazelle]

venezuela run lets gooo 🔥

[fair horizon]

not really, just deploy your fighters and watch theirs crumble

[willow plume]

so is it worth going to great lengths to get a.s and use cas

[fringe shell]

you have dlc or not

[maiden inlet]

Better start training

[pearl jackal]

ye

[fair horizon]

colombia better

[pearl jackal]

i have mtg

[willow plume]

got it

[fair horizon]

i would say yes its worth it

[flat gazelle]

wait venezuela actually has an economy?

[flat gazelle]

i dont even care tbh

im only here to send volunteers to germany

[lapis snow]

Oil trade go brrrr

[flat gazelle]

funny because i actually have to go the "democratic" side of the generic focus tree to send the volunteers i think

ah nvm

i cant even do that

we need 30 divs huh

thankfully i have a plan

[fair horizon]

just make a bunch of 1 battalion horse divs

thats what i do lol

[flat gazelle]

damn you said it faster then i could send the screenshot lol

[fair horizon]

lmao

[flat gazelle]

but yeah thats what i plan to do

[fair horizon]

make a new div

its cheaper

[flat gazelle]

as i said it doesnt matter

im leaving the run as soon as that achievement hits

dont really mind wasting army experiance

but yeah youre right

[cursive oxide]

Best focus tree line in man the guns for the ducht?

[flat gazelle]

the great venezuelan cavalry force

[fair horizon]

bros outa guns 🥀

[maiden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-horse-run-freedom-stantwt-gif-5230541815326766342

[fair horizon]

broke country

[flat gazelle]

our 1 mil doesnt exactly provide us with a ton of opportunities yk

[buoyant pumice]

Speer in TNO is like one of the best paths in the history of hoi4 modding

[cursive oxide]

Join the Germans or the allies ?

[glass lark]

:3

[flat gazelle]

as with all the focus trees it depends on personal preferance

seriously just do what you think will be more fun

[cursive oxide]

Oke

[deft vapor]

Best hoi4 DLC?

[flat gazelle]

graveyard of empires

totally not lazy slop

trust me its very well made

[cursive oxide]

[fair horizon]

australia one

[prisma zealot]

i need this chat's opinion on the iran iraq dlc NOW!

[cursive oxide]

Man the guns cus it's free

[fresh jacinth]

imo gotterdammerung adds a couple really cool mechanics but only if you like playing as germany tbh

[flat gazelle]

austria and hungary are fire in gotterdammerung ngl

[fresh jacinth]

it might not be the best one but most of the rest are integrated now

[fair horizon]

yeah and all the new toys are obselete before you even get to play with them!

[flat gazelle]

very fun to play

[cursive oxide]

Which one adds makeing tanks and planes ?

[fresh jacinth]

the base game

[flat gazelle]

dont worry bro by 1950 you will be able to use your special research

[flat gazelle]

no step back i think

[fresh jacinth]

wdym

[flat gazelle]

at least tanks

[cursive oxide]

Designing your own I mean

[flat gazelle]

planes are in by blood alone i think

[deft vapor]

I have man the guns, arms against and the air one. Just looking to add another this weekend

[flat gazelle]

because ofc they couldnt be together

[fair horizon]

because they take late game research and then still take a thousand days to research and another thousand to build

[flat gazelle]

no step back or gotterdamerung

depands on how and who you play

[cursive oxide]

Or just subscribe to rhe dlcs

[fresh jacinth]

totally not trying to be rude but it might be a skill issue, cuz i can usually get nukes by 50 or 51

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

thats the point

[fair horizon]

50-51?? THE GAME IS ALREADY OVER LMAO

its been over for 10 years

[fresh jacinth]

nah i play until 56 at least always

[flat gazelle]

and if you get normal nukes in 1950 then brother you are the one with a skill issue

[fresh jacinth]

i never give up until i have entire world

[flat gazelle]

me when i lie

the game is unplayable at that point

[fresh jacinth]

bro how tf am i lying

[deft vapor]

Was gunna sub but as a new player I didnt want to overload my dumb brain so I’ve slowly been adding

[prisma zealot]

yall how do you think is the graveyard of empires dlc ?

[flat gazelle]

you're asking for the second time

its ass

[brittle cypress]

Bro is the road to 56

[prisma zealot]

nobody answered before you, thx

[brittle cypress]

Ass

Literally worst dlc they’ve made

[flat gazelle]

took the mod name litterally 😭

[fresh jacinth]

i was literally saying if you dont have nukes by 50 then its a skill issue

[prisma zealot]

fr ? what makes it that bad ? iraq and iran look like to be great nations

[flat gazelle]

hot take by blood alone is less fun to play

[craggy trail]

[stoic portal]

yes

[flat gazelle]

goe is bugged and slop but it can be at least a bit fun to play

[brittle cypress]

By blood alone adds the air designer and decent quality stuff for Italy

That’s already leagues above

[flat gazelle]

italy is the worst country in that dlc

[prisma zealot]

what dlc gets you able to play the netherlands btw

[flat gazelle]

its so ass for what it could've and should've been

[brittle cypress]

insane take

[stoic portal]

man the guns

[craggy trail]

Man the Guns

[prisma zealot]

oh great thx

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/moderators-mods-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-old-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-fancy-gif-17832892536946685423

[brittle cypress]

Go buy it right now

Quick

Before it’s too late

They’re removing it from the store

[craggy trail]

It's free right now as it will be integrated into base game

[brittle cypress]

You’ll miss it

[flat gazelle]

dont listen to him

he's trying to make you miss out on it

[stoic portal]

for my netherlands game im currently only having man the guns, no step back and la resistance

[flat gazelle]

buy it while you can

[flat gazelle]

la resistance would be so fire if the trees would be better

[stoic portal]

indeed

[flat gazelle]

somehow they made france the worst one there

[stoic portal]

grazy

[fresh jacinth]

ye i always play with it

its the 2nd best mod

[flat gazelle]

genuinely curious as to how can you make a dlc with portugal spain and france and have portugal be the best one there

[sudden thistle]

Buy it!! Buy it quick!!!

[stoic portal]

i have no idea

[prisma zealot]

should i get la résistance btw ? what does it add

[marsh ravine]

Spies

[flat gazelle]

this is my only problem with portugals tree ngl

wtf is this

70 days for 2 claims

not even a war goal

[flat gazelle]

spies

[fresh jacinth]

also it might be patched now but used to, you could use the road to 56 mod to use gotterdammerung mechanics for free but it might be patched now

[prisma zealot]

only spies ?

[digital bison]

https://youtu.be/eLsCjMSxxqU?si=rNqdy7QHKkDM9yVt what yall think about this

[flat gazelle]

war profiteering my beloved

[gleaming iron]

how would i save this game and win

[flat gazelle]

0 mp as india??

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[gleaming iron]

yes

[fresh jacinth]

bro has 0 manpower as india

[brittle cypress]

Time to make like 200 2w divisions, convert to a 50w pure light tank division, disable all equipment, and then battle plan them into Poland for instant tank mastery

[sage leaf]

Any game discounts today 🙂

[maiden inlet]

I am very certain.

[gleaming iron]

HOW DO I SAVE THIS ONE

[digital bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787122975031033949/1326326699620831263/6290e84546b19.gif

[flat gazelle]

only 1 more year til i can leave venezuela

[sage leaf]

I have 30 dollars left in my pocket for breakfast.

[maiden inlet]

Hmm

No breakfast then

Buy hoi4.

[fresh jacinth]

where do you live that breakfest costs $30

[maiden inlet]

Im sure it’ll leave you with a full stomach

[flat gazelle]

dont

buy eu4

because that game is actually good

[fresh jacinth]

[maiden inlet]

I SAID BUY HOI4!!!!!

[sage leaf]

California study abroad

[fresh jacinth]

that makes sense

[sage leaf]

Hmm Maybe

[brittle cypress]

Insane what

[sudden thistle]

Eu4 sucks

[brittle cypress]

$30 breakfast is absurd

[sudden thistle]

I literally only play it with freinds

[brittle cypress]

Are you having a glass of wine and 3 avocado toasts?

[heavy vigil]

Center of las vegas?

Idk

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[sage leaf]

Guys calm down

[fresh jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-hyde-get-well-soon-feel-better-mental-health-gif-17466365192610805797

[ripe slate]

A glass of wine costs like €0.60 from Lidl 😛

[flat gazelle]

elaborate please

[sage leaf]

I just eat for daily activities 🤡

[brittle cypress]

70 cent wine glass is probably not any wine you want to drink

[flat gazelle]

bro what wine are you drinking

[sage leaf]

30 dollars is enough for me to live, bros, don't worry.

[ripe slate]

🙃 I dont drink but its cheap in France

[maiden inlet]

Mm, for 4 days max

[finite plume]

Jamaica rework 🗣️ 🔥

[sage leaf]

Nah, my parents are Asian

[flat gazelle]

generic focus tree so fire

[ripe slate]

that province on the right reminds me of Guantanamo

[sage leaf]

My food is no problem

[finite plume]

70 day focus for infra 🔥

[sage leaf]

Only sinners stay for a long time :(((

[flat gazelle]

idk what you mean this shit is lit

eleazar lopez contreas knows something the rest of the world doesnt know

cooking up nuclear projects in 1939

[finite plume]

Don't do drugs kids

[fresh jacinth]

^

[finite plume]

@ripe slate

[sage leaf]

Um...I see what you mean.

[finite plume]

Should I make these two islands 1 or 2 provinces

[flat gazelle]

FINALLY

i can stop pretending to enjoy this

[ripe slate]

It looks really tiny, Id just attach them to the larger state if they indeed are

[flat gazelle]

that was 3 ingame years of peak gameplay

[sudden thistle]

Make them 3

[ripe slate]

Theres achievements described with tags?

[sage leaf]

Bro can play asian mod :))

[flat gazelle]

this is the only one i think

and probably only because there's so many viable countries for it

[finite plume]

Then again I do like making annoyingly tiny province islands lmao

[flat gazelle]

still looks odd tho

[finite plume]

They must suffer AS I HAVE SUFFERED

[high citrus]

hello will anyone teach me i saw some videos but i havent cracked...

[finite plume]

Suspicious you say you didn't crack when no one mentioned anything about piracy...

[tiny iris]

Is this the Greek focus tree!? I just paid money for it. Its so small.

[buoyant hull]

Hawk tuah

[brittle cypress]

Yeah

[high citrus]

no i mesnt i havent learned it

[finite plume]

Old tree

[fresh jacinth]

imma start my own podcast

and its gonna be called

[buoyant hull]

paw tuah?

paw tuah gang

67 mustard

[flat gazelle]

okay now its either fascist belgium, communist brazil world conquest, democratic brazil, or commie hungary

[high citrus]

will anyone teach me?

[maiden inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310236917685817376/1415318054165938227/attachment.gif

[buoyant hull]

67?

[flat gazelle]

tf is walter junior doing bruh

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-16369166454621395215

[trail zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsCjMSxxqU, seriously? how do you frick a game up so hard

[tiny iris]

Bftb is kinda trash tbh. Bulgaria is the only one I enjoy cuz you can recreate the battles of Doiran.

[visual pasture]

ah yes, cold war

[tiny iris]

But why is the focus tree so smallll

[flat gazelle]

insanity

[ripe slate]

Old DLC

[tiny iris]

Did they add another Greek focus?

[ripe slate]

Nope

[tiny iris]

I have bftb

[sage leaf]

I thought there was an Asian mod :((

[tiny iris]

I don't get it...

[sage leaf]

I'm really looking forward to it

[flat gazelle]

thankfully in the newer once they started making bigger trees by repeating the army and economy focus trees!

[sudden grotto]

Its a country pack, not a whole dlc, so thats It, you should have watched some videos about It before buying It

[flat gazelle]

great job paradox

[trail zinc]

just wanna let you know paradox, I hate everthing you do, you're a shitty greedy ahh company, does everything that fricks the game up

[finite plume]

It's an old DLC and tree, it's not gonna be detailed as modern trees

[sudden grotto]

Pdx After hearing this: ok so?

[flat gazelle]

thats just not the case, there are many modern trees that suck and many older trees that are good

[maiden inlet]

I dont think paradox is gonna do shit about this ngl

[finite plume]

Never said they were bad I just said they weren't as detailed

[trail zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[tiny iris]

Oh, no. I bought it to play 🇧🇬

[brittle cypress]

Literal Bulgarian nationalist

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[trail zinc]

doctrine is not reworked, its downworked, its so bad

[tiny iris]

I am Swedish.

[brittle cypress]

I doubt it (joke)

[flat gazelle]

nice new word you made there

[high citrus]

can anyone help me with the game??

[sudden grotto]

Everyone has a nationalist bulgar inside of him

[tiny iris]

I am just a big fan of the battles of Doiran.

[ripe slate]

@trail zincEnglish only please

[trail zinc]

that was english buddy

[tiny iris]

It translated to "You make me proud".

[brittle cypress]

How

[finite plume]

"Buddy"

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerdy-nerds-nerd-emoji-gif-25380417

[brittle cypress]

We don’t even know what it’s fully like yet

[trail zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[sudden wasp]

How about 67

[high citrus]

uhh can anyone teach me:/

[maiden inlet]

How about 6741

[sage leaf]

[trail zinc]

graveyard of empire hate is so forced, its so good its better than, the newest one and many older ones

[sudden grotto]

For the game i suggest YouTube tutorials

[flat gazelle]

petition to make hungarys starting mp be 67 instead of 63

[finite plume]

Holy ragebait

🗿

[maiden inlet]

Signed

[sudden wasp]

Nah you just play the game and be in pain for 50 hours

[finite plume]

People live in Hungary?

[flat gazelle]

if it wasnt bugged i'd agree ngl

[brittle cypress]

Bait

[flat gazelle]

it aint that bad

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-fake-gif-7871202926367838366

[sudden grotto]

Its Better than capping to poland in 0.0001s lol

[high citrus]

wow sherlock it didnt help

[sudden grotto]

What bugs?

Never seen amy

[finite plume]

🥀

[sudden grotto]

Bro you asked for it

What do you expect

Full time coach?

[finite plume]

Bro stop getting angry when people try to help

[flat gazelle]

as iran, afghanistan can just randomly steal your province when they have a civil war

[brittle cypress]

Like that one new game hollowsilk

[finite plume]

That's why no one helps you

[trail zinc]

no, its very good focuses and its fully fixed now

lmao

[high citrus]

like from someone who knows it and tells me in game

[sudden wasp]

Me when Poland kills 200k* Germans from Prussia dumb ass ai

[sudden grotto]

Never seen that tbh

[finite plume]

Bait

[flat gazelle]

because as iran you can demand afghan territory, and even if they give it to you they get one back later because the afghan civil war is hardcorded slop

[sudden grotto]

The One they hacked in 0.001s-

[flat gazelle]

dlc been out for months btw still not fixed

[high citrus]

noo i shouldnt be angry when you talk about 6741 and ignoring my ass

[maiden inlet]

I said 6741

[finite plume]

You act as if we're obligated to help

We are not your damn tutors or guides

Help yourself

[sudden grotto]

The same could be said for ethiopia palestine demand but nobody complains about

[sudden wasp]

We can all agree modded is better then vanilla

[flat gazelle]

you're asking about a very complicated game in a discord chat

[trail zinc]

nope

sry

to hurt ur feelings

[fallen vigil]

mittleeuropa in 1938 ironman mode im pretty impressed by myself

[flat gazelle]

are we all obligated to drop everything and explain it to you in detail

[ripe slate]

👏

[finite plume]

Literally, it takes hours to even teach the basics

[trail zinc]

hasnt even formed EU yet, crazy

[high citrus]

well where the hell should i look facebook marketplace?

[flat gazelle]

youtube

[sudden grotto]

Marijn watching the Chaos in silence

[sudden thistle]

Bugs?

[fallen vigil]

oh i can form eu

how do i do that

[sudden grotto]

I had a bug
It made me Crazy
Crazy bug

[ripe slate]

Got the popcorn out

[finite plume]

On release it was super buggy and unfinished

[ripe slate]

Please calm down

[trail zinc]

point of doing that faction Imo

[sudden wasp]

You would be able to take like 70% of the land💔

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[high citrus]

twin i meant from a people that talks to me not say random stuff without showing aslo 8 years old videos

[fallen vigil]

Woops i did carve czecho so i cant do that

[sudden thistle]

Democracy, owning all Benelux, Germany, France, Italy, (all cores)

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

what are you even saying

[sudden thistle]

Ohhh

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[trail zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-krabs-crazy-eyes-greed-greedy-gif-9784048744434058598

paradox releasing 48 euro greed pack

[sudden grotto]

Then play and learn by mistakes lop

[sudden thistle]

The focus too

[high citrus]

simple question can someone teach me ?

[flat gazelle]

no\

[sudden grotto]

And people still buy it- ( me included )

[flat gazelle]

theres your answer

[high citrus]

f u twin

[sudden wasp]

Just lock in and play owb

[finite plume]

You just exposing the fact you're a narcissist bruh

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[sudden wasp]

BAN HIM

[finite plume]

You ain't that important 🥀

[maiden inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1310236917685817376/1415318054165938227/attachment.gif

[high citrus]

you too furry ahh

[sudden thistle]

So true

[flat gazelle]

people when a complicated game takes time to learn 🤯

[sudden wasp]

Some one ping a mod💔

[finite plume]

Someone's crashing out

[maiden inlet]

💔

Who’s bro talking to

[flat gazelle]

someone please transfer the entirety of the games knowledge into my head instantly

[sudden grotto]

Broski get yo Daily meds fr fr

Schizo ragebait

[flat gazelle]

🤓 👆

mods, execute him 🤓

[sudden grotto]

"can i download hoi4 in my head"

[maiden inlet]

Maybe

[high citrus]

ahh great comunity

[trail zinc]

paradox is bloating their own game

[flat gazelle]

yes actually

[trail zinc]

such bad updates

and dlc

[finite plume]

You tell us to F* off and get angry when we tried to help lol

[trail zinc]

like just crack them lol

[maiden inlet]

True

[sudden grotto]

200 iq move

[sudden wasp]

Type Shi

[high citrus]

you tried to help your help was watch youtube like stfu twin

[finite plume]

Yes because many others learned that way

And tutoring takes hours of our time

Why would we spend hours to some random

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-gif-523038869044733220

[high citrus]

why does it have to be me too?

[finite plume]

Who'd prob ghost us once they learn

[trim pike]

[finite plume]

"Me me me" 🤓

[sudden wasp]

We all had to learn Gng

[sudden thistle]

It’s great help

[high citrus]

and?

[flat gazelle]

genuinely why tf would anyone spend countless hours of their time to teach a random person the game

[finite plume]

@high citrus's crashing out

[sudden grotto]

Bro dug the hole by himself

[maiden inlet]

Omg its THE alex hunti too

[high citrus]

bc i dont have 200 hours to spend looking into nothing and loosing every shit

[finite plume]

No way

THE ALEX HUNTI?

[flat gazelle]

mfs when the consequences of their actions

[flat gazelle]

and we have?

[maiden inlet]

YES THE ALEX HUNTI

[trim pike]

What about

[high citrus]

you did

[sudden grotto]

Then you shouldnt have bought the game? This Is soul sucking

[high citrus]

twin

[finite plume]

Swearing at us and such

[flat gazelle]

you cant invest the time yourself so others should invest their time into you

[sudden wasp]

You just hate playing the game💔

[flat gazelle]

great mindset

surely you'll go far in life with that

[sudden wasp]

Gng it’s not for you

[trim pike]

Let me check

[high citrus]

gng

[flat gazelle]

free silesia so based

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerdy-nerds-nerd-emoji-gif-25380417

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-20014225

[sudden wasp]

Gng whay

[maiden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-hit-hat-kitten-in-tiny-hat-gets-hit-gif-15889960804139462831

[sudden wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169268679729483796/1301162421838151791/fecequipo-ezgif.com-apng-to-gif-converter_1.gif

[high citrus]

okay sorry..

[maiden inlet]

Sad bart

[finite plume]

You ain't sorry lol, you're sorry you're getting punished for lashing out

[high citrus]

and u still like this?

[maiden inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[sudden wasp]

I spent 2 hours on this. Bart simsa

[sudden wasp]

Holy victim card

[finite plume]

Did you expect a weak sorry to just magically remove every bad thing?

[sudden wasp]

😭🙏

[cursive oxide]

Is there a hoi4 Forum

[trim pike]

Chill

[trim pike]

Yes

Paradox interactive forums

[high citrus]

how can i learn it faster?

[cursive oxide]

Oke

[maiden inlet]

Trial and error

[finite plume]

Trial by fire

[high citrus]

if i dont have 200 hours to spend

[finite plume]

Learn from your errors/mistakes until you learn how to fix/counter them

[trim pike]

Play the game and click everything

[ripe slate]

Hello

[trim pike]

Play mp

Watch vids

[finite plume]

Neither do we

[sudden thistle]

Then watch a YouTube video to learn it faster

[cursive oxide]

I want them to buff the ducht focus tree there all 70 focuses

[sudden wasp]

Don’t care spend the rest of your life playing

[finite plume]

Marijn you're a bit late 🥀

[high citrus]

then what u do? trial and error for 200 hours?

[flat gazelle]

ragebait or room temperature iq?

[finite plume]

Yes

[sudden wasp]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

Yes

[trim pike]

Take it as fun

[sudden thistle]

That’s how I learned

[trim pike]

Learning is part of the fun

[maiden inlet]

Personally it took me 20 hours to beat poland

[trim pike]

Remember that its a game

[sudden wasp]

Me too

[finite plume]

I learned modding by absolutely bricking my HOI4 10+ times

Just play it and learn

[sudden wasp]

Ngl I just play with mods for my first 40 hours

[high citrus]

yeah when the f belgium destroys me as germany thats fun

[maiden inlet]

Only 40 hours?

Pff i played 200 hours of hoi4 with mods only

[flat gazelle]

skill issue

[sudden thistle]

Skill issue

[sudden wasp]

I still play with mods💔

[maiden inlet]

Aint that hard

[high citrus]

father issue

[finite plume]

Projecting much?

[sudden thistle]

Are u 12 or smth

[sudden wasp]

I got like 365 years in game

[maiden inlet]

Just assign 13 to 24 divisions at belgiums border and with CAS

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[trim pike]

U need to calm down

[flat gazelle]

is that a confession or an accusation

[high citrus]

whats a cas

[maiden inlet]

Easy to delete belgium

[maiden inlet]

Close air support

Air force

[sudden wasp]

Bros like 6 maybe 7

[trim pike]

Close air support

[flat gazelle]

six seveeeen

[trim pike]

Use small airframe to make some

[maiden inlet]

Maybe 4 maybe 1

[finite plume]

I swear that's like a sleeper agent

[high citrus]

i dont even know where planes are:/

[maiden inlet]

F4

[finite plume]

The sky

[maiden inlet]

Or f3

Idk

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/nmixx-kyujin-lily-lily-morrow-jang-kyujin-gif-13850376269967033424

[trim pike]

Theyre in the research tab

[high citrus]

no shit sherlock

[trim pike]

The plane mode is f3

[finite plume]

Ay man

[sudden thistle]

I didn’t learn that trend yet 😔

[finite plume]

Tryna help alright

[flat gazelle]

"the hungarian lenin" 😭

[sudden wasp]

Chill out little bro

[patent thistle]

WHAT- THAT NEVER HAPPEND TO ME ONCE-

[finite plume]

Where in god's name is it gonna get docked 🥀

[sudden wasp]

I don’t think that’s a battle ship

[maiden inlet]

This kinda reminds me of a mod

Wait

[patent thistle]

eh, its a battleship, could be worse

[flat gazelle]

nooo

they're gonna get stuck againnn

[high citrus]

okay last question whats the easiest nation to start if i just want do defend?

[maiden inlet]

Hmm

[flat gazelle]

how long has the focus tree been out for btw?

[sudden wasp]

Switzerland

[flat gazelle]

the ai still hasnt been fixed and gets stuck 90% of the time

[sudden wasp]

Do nothing then win

[high citrus]

thanks

[flat gazelle]

holy shit what is this 😭

[maiden inlet]

Gotta watch out for italy asking for ticino

[sudden wasp]

Ts poor guy

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/update-update-is-calming-gif-5364323799195338063

[trim pike]

Sov

[sudden thistle]

Peak

[bright arrow]

Basically a OP conscription law

[maiden inlet]

I dont think

Soviet is easy

[high citrus]

im not that dumb twin

[sudden thistle]

Why do u always say twin

[high citrus]

im in war with the whole world

[sudden wasp]

Did bro call a mod dumb💔

[high citrus]

as soviets

[flat gazelle]

?????

hoi4 player vs reading ability

[sudden thistle]

Ur not at war with the whole world as Soviets???

[high citrus]

some random guy on youtube said that

[sudden thistle]

Bro 😭

They dumb

[sudden wasp]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNTV6ZW5oc3NlNWVnNGJ0cTZrZGx3eGw2dmMwam9oeXdmd2QzbDUyZSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/PwBzC9QS3mfU8Me1xX/giphy.gif

[high citrus]

"you should watch youtube tutorials"

[maiden inlet]

Whats y’alls favorite hoi4 mod

[worthy widget]

I need rubber man

[sudden thistle]

They are good if u don’t know anything at all

[sudden wasp]

Umm uncensored…

[maiden inlet]

Uncensored german flag?

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[sudden thistle]

And I know full well u don’t know anything

[maiden inlet]

I alr have that

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[high citrus]

what if i want to start as persians? i just like their nation

[finite plume]

Invaded by the USSR

[sudden thistle]

Sure

[sudden wasp]

Iran💔

[sudden thistle]

Do that

[trim pike]

U can but soviets are the prime example of defense

[maiden inlet]

Personally i like an anchovy italy icon mod

[trim pike]

And u learn a good few mechanics

[sudden thistle]

Ethiopia 🔥

[trim pike]

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[green moss]

World peace ig

[sudden wasp]

Ngl 56, 2000s and like any pre ww1 mod

[finite plume]

They're led by the Burgers 🔥

[maiden inlet]

Why do you keep typing mdawg

Are you writing an essay

[sudden wasp]

Pax Britannia was pretty good too and like tno and twr was fine

BRO

I WAS THINKING

[maiden inlet]

That was ALL your writing?

[trim pike]

[maiden inlet]

💔

[high citrus]

btw can i make karl gerat or svehrer gustav?

[trim pike]

Yes

U need dlc tho

[sudden wasp]

I think Gng

[high citrus]

wich one

dlc

[trim pike]

Nsb i believe

[flat gazelle]

who needs stability when you have communism

[maiden inlet]

Hold on you play wt right

[sudden wasp]

Yes

[maiden inlet]

What br?

[sudden wasp]

Top tier usa air

[maiden inlet]

Oo

What about ground?

[sudden wasp]

And like 7.0 German

[maiden inlet]

Im still on 3.7 germany ground

[sudden wasp]

King tiger maxxing

[maiden inlet]

Zero tank destroyers btw

[sudden thistle]

6.7 ground is fun

(Jokes aside)

[maiden inlet]

Remove that fullstop for me rq

[sudden wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mewing-mew-cat-mewing-mewing-tutorial-mewing-cat-gif-495067373805540650

[echo basin]

I cant understand why people dont give any views on the reichkommisariats plus mod like its a great mod and no one talks about it

[silent root]

guys are medium fighters any good?

[sudden wasp]

Ngl owb is fun but then ncr takes half of my land

[echo basin]

Ehh

Im a ground army main

[sudden wasp]

Burgerland over took me when did a world conquest💔

[tiny iris]

Guyssss, as Norway. Should I build tanks? COnsidering the rocky terrain of scandinavia.

[echo basin]

What?

[maiden inlet]

Well your tank commanders are gonna leave as soon as they see those mountains

[sudden wasp]

The SS place in France

[sudden thistle]

Obviously

Do it

[echo basin]

Whats wrong with the burger land in the reichkommisariats plus mod?

[sudden thistle]

Burgundy?

[silent root]

that won't work saar

[sudden wasp]

Yes

[echo basin]

We dont talk about that

[maiden inlet]

Burgerland 💔💔💔

[tiny iris]

Who is in your pfp?

[silent root]

Greek general of WW2

[echo basin]

4 anime pfps 4 dudes

[echo basin]

Έλληνας?

[maiden inlet]

True

[silent root]

Nai re

[sudden thistle]

Obviously

I’m just too lazy to change my pfp back

[sudden wasp]

Burger land takes Germany and makes the Damm aryan emipre💔

[tiny iris]

I wanna put marshal Zhukov as my pfp cuz I love his military strategies. But idk if that would break rule 4.

[maiden inlet]

BURGUNDY

[silent root]

brhka ton 2 hoi4 player aptous 10 se olh thn ellada

[echo basin]

I have officialy joined the discord mod gang💔

[silent root]

Burger is strengehim

[maiden inlet]

himmler isnt eating burgers

[silent root]

BURGERNDY

[echo basin]

Bruh

[flat gazelle]

wtf is this

why did the japanese swap halves of sakhalin with the russians

[sudden wasp]

Yea he is trust his my bro

[maiden inlet]

NO DUDE

GÖRING IS THE ONE EATING BURGERS

[finite plume]

Cause they're homies what else

Gotta share

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[maiden inlet]

What did you expect

He’s a fatass

[echo basin]

30.000 own hoi4

Greeks

[barren depot]

pls gift me la ressistance i beg

[sudden grotto]

Whycnot goated tukachevskij

[maiden inlet]

Nuh uh

[sudden wasp]

Whos the better spaie I can’t spell his name I’m dumb or goring

[maiden inlet]

Hermann göring

[sudden grotto]

Job

[sudden wasp]

Type Shi

[tiny iris]

I fear having soviet generals will get me banned considering their human wave attacks.

[maiden inlet]

You keep dipping out

say something and dip out

[sudden grotto]

Hmm? Whats that mean?

[maiden inlet]

Leaving

[echo basin]

New country? Or unit?

[sudden grotto]

Got some things to do but i casually check sometimes

[sudden wasp]

New debuff

💔

[sudden grotto]

Hmm??

[maiden inlet]

2. Infanterie-Division “Job”

[night wasp]

new event

[sudden grotto]

Whats that mean lol, you want a div name?

[sudden wasp]

The way I learned to play was playing with mods and cheating so I could dog on the ai

💔💔💔💔💔💔

[maiden inlet]

Exactly how i learned to play too

Did we all go down a path of mods?

[sudden grotto]

Imagine not learning from Poland being mighty

[night wasp]

imagine learning

[sudden grotto]

I didnt know what were those till i hit 600 hours

[maiden inlet]

Poland makes me wanna smash my head into a wall

[sudden wasp]

That happen but it was more of a stalemate nothing happened for like a year

[sudden grotto]

Polska gurom

[silent root]

the fire rises

TNO

[sudden grotto]

Whats yall First mod?

[maiden inlet]

Millennium dawn

[sudden wasp]

Old world blues

[tiny iris]

I love KR

Reich not redux

[sudden grotto]

I am the only fker with FPS map

[tiny iris]

Do you need it?

[sudden wasp]

Yes

[maiden inlet]

For fps? Yes

[sudden wasp]

You are

[sudden grotto]

No but It was my First mod, i liked the texture lol

[sudden wasp]

I play with some old looking map mod it looks beautiful

[maiden inlet]

Vintage map?

[tiny iris]

It is ugly at first but then you get used to it.

[sudden wasp]

Yes

[sudden grotto]

Nah its beautiful

[silent root]

I think it was kaisereddux

[flat gazelle]

shouldnt have attacked me

[sudden wasp]

It’s peak fr fr

[sudden grotto]

@tiny iris yo nemesis