hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

just leave them as is

lmao

yeah i played brazil a week ago

[edgy wedge]

They thought it would incentive region development, I mean on theory it was a good idea

[misty fossil]

wow what a poor country lowk

why didnt it work

[edgy wedge]

No civ factory grind

Talking on that

Does building infraestructure actually make factory building faster?

[robust spruce]

Why is there only one ottoman unit here

[edgy wedge]

Or is it just a supply bonus

[robust spruce]

and why has the ottoman not capitulated yet

[heavy vigil]

Yes

[edgy wedge]

Oh nice, thanks!

[edgy wedge]

He holding them all off alone

[robust spruce]

how do I make the ottomans susrrender

[edgy wedge]

Keep capturing their cities and ignore plain terrain

Rush to their new capital

[dusky burrow]

Yeah you need to get all the way to Antep

Or even Trabzon

Those are large victory points

[robust spruce]

Bruh all this Balkan war shit got me tired up I wanna prepare for Ww1 not fighting the ottomans continuously

It’s about to be 1914

[dusky burrow]

Oh wait

You can just completely take over the Ottoman Empire

[robust spruce]

I don’t wanna. That’s the thing

[dusky burrow]

Or you can wait until the peace triggers

I think the Ottomans are screwed either way

[robust spruce]

YESSS THEY WHITE PEACED US

Finally dude

[dusky burrow]

Did you get Tsarigrad

[robust spruce]

What’s that

@dusky burrow

where is it

[robust spruce]

Nope

I didn’t

I’m doing the national focus for the 2nd Balkan war

[ancient marsh]

??? why did they make fate of czechoslovakia give an annex wargoal

i just got jumped by surprise

[edgy wedge]

Do you guys protect all borders or just the ones you know you are gonna get attacked from

[robust spruce]

Bulgaria don’t let me down

[candid oxide]

i like to leave my borders soft and submissable...

[radiant bone]

Rushed Ice Carrier gaming

[willow plume]

ice carrier?

[digital tulip]

oh wow how is it? I've never tried...

[digital tulip]

Role-Play!

[willow plume]

yeah its more realistic that way

[radiant bone]

The special project carrier made of Ice and Pykrete

[willow plume]

ahhh

yeah i think i know what u mean

[idle onyx]

how do I take a screenshot of just the map and nothing else like where it only shows the countries

[split bane]

The ones I only get attacked from, most of the time I don't even have enough troops for that

[heavy vigil]

You get like so many 100% buffs on small airframe

[radiant bone]

allows you to field any aircraft, so I put massive naval bombers on it spec'd for naval attack

[heavy vigil]

You should use it to rush improved/advanced

Lets you get supersonic at some point too (OP plane)

[radiant bone]

[heavy vigil]

And any plane can be put on ice carriers

[radiant bone]

I considered rocket planes to preserve fuel

[heavy vigil]

Like land based ones too

[willow plume]

wont they just melt away?

[idle onyx]

yall am I mutted or something?

[digital tulip]

lol dog

[radiant bone]

mixed with sawdust, steel and AC units it can maintain itself

[willow plume]

just dont send it into the tropics

and u should be fine

[heavy vigil]

Oh btw you should do your formable

Its not required to form it but you can core taiwan by doing it which is more core pop than the rest of the formable + starting cores combined

And you get like chromium from one of the islands so thats nice

[robust spruce]

lol

the Romanians, Serbians, ottomans, and Greeks all getting clapped at once

[willow plume]

is it Austronesia ?

i think that was nzs formable nation

[heavy vigil]

Pacific formable

Doesnt include australia in vanilla

Australia actually gets no additional cores in vanilla

[misty fossil]

if there's cisleithana where's transleithana

[radiant bone]

I don't got the Japanese islands

[civic plover]

shouldn't Domincan Republic's capital be Trajillo city

[radiant bone]

[heavy vigil]

I think new zealand is fun but a lot of ppl hate it....

[misty fossil]

nz has nothing

[heavy vigil]

Research

Formable

Eco

[misty fossil]

?

huh

[heavy vigil]

like a lot of research

[radiant bone]

NZ is amazing if you like to rush super weapons imo, before GOT I use to bring in super heavies in 41 in MP all the time

[heavy vigil]

If you do civil war to be independent (very low skill required) you get 6 research slots

Your eco is like comparable to australia

[misty fossil]

WHAT

[radiant bone]

yeah, insanely high research slots

[misty fossil]

generic focus tree?

[heavy vigil]

No

[radiant bone]

can also get eng 3 mediums like within 1936

[wraith mauve]

Yay since there’s a sale Cant somone gift me arms against tyranny

[heavy vigil]

Added in TfV

[radiant bone]

its amazing for tech rushing if thats your thing

[heavy vigil]

Its not generic

[wraith mauve]

If I win the second European war

[random needle]

Is arms against tyranny any good

[heavy vigil]

Well

You could get more research slots

But its not rlly worth it

[random needle]

I have all dlc besides grave yard, arms against tryna y and trails of allegiance

[radiant bone]

I think its great, I love the international market, and have had a lot of fun with the nordic countries

[wraith mauve]

Anyone

[random needle]

Will every country eventually have a unique focus tree

[safe wing]

Probably not

If EU4 is anything to go by then no

[robust spruce]

I’m buying eu4 tomorrow

Only 5 dollars on steam

Crazy lol

[winter urchin]

@gaunt pawn mercenaries are on

join meeee

[north spoke]

are big bombers worth making as germany or do i just stick to CAS?

[haughty gulch]

does brazil normally end up with 500 factories in historical?

[robust spruce]

Is eu4 actually worth it

It’s only 5 dollars so it wont really be a waste of money but is it worth it

[north spoke]

Im personally not a player but since EU5 is coming out EU4 is probably not gonna recieve any new updates

[robust spruce]

Oh. Less then 3 months when it’s coming out

I don’t want eu4 to be abandoned 😔

[robust spruce]

Is eu4 similar to hoi4

like is it that easy to do a offensive attack in eu4

[ancient marsh]

hungary gets named transleithana

[ancient marsh]

no

[robust spruce]

😔

how is eu4 like

[ancient marsh]

its prolly the hardest pdx game to learn

[robust spruce]

Ik it’s set like before Ww1 but must be very different

[ancient marsh]

its

quite a bit before ww1

1444-1821-

[robust spruce]

U can choose different scenarios?

[ancient marsh]

the game ends in 1821 on ironman

there are different starting scenarios but theyre all outdated and broken

cause they havent been updated since like 2014

[robust spruce]

Hoi4 was very fast to learn

EU4 must not be

[robust spruce]

Ahh ok

[ancient marsh]

2k~ hours on hoi4 and im good*
3k~ at least on eu4 and im still pretty garbage

[dusky burrow]

Elephants have nice terrain bonuses

[ancient marsh]

(above average but i feel like im terrible

[robust spruce]

Damn.

[dusky burrow]

5% in hills, mountains, and forests, and 10% in jungle

[robust spruce]

Ima still buy eu4 cuz it’s only 5 dollars Atleast I didn’t have to spend 50

[ancient marsh]

note that its a paradox game so its butt without all the dlc

although they integrated the absolutely necessary ones recently

[robust spruce]

ah ok

[robust spruce]

I’m really interested in the end of the medievil ages so I feel like this would be a great game for me

[robust spruce]

Ppl said it’s good to me it’s just hard managing a system

[green magnet]

most expensive tank oat?

[north spoke]

Im prety sure its not very similar at all

[sharp sierra]

eu4 just looks super lame to me idk

[robust spruce]

Bruh if crusader kings is hard for me this must be hard

[sharp sierra]

whats the difference between crusader kings and europa universalis it just looks like the same shit

[heavy vigil]

Different games

Ck is like character based

In eu you play as a country like hoi4 but also not

[robust spruce]

I kinda don’t like ck3 like all of my friends do

[robust spruce]

question why does paradox make all the series they make different

like Hoi4 is different then eu4 and so is ck

[dusky burrow]

100k cost tank division bruh

[edgy wedge]

Thats how I like my planes

[heavy vigil]

Different developers for each

Just same studio

[robust spruce]

Ohhh

[dusky burrow]

Bet

[heavy vigil]

You forgot to add fast tank MIO

[candid oxide]

i want to dominate the A-10

[dusky burrow]

I was looking for it but it took too long

Will fix

[heavy vigil]

Germany doesnt get it anymore

Henschel used to be fast

[digital ingot]

wiat

are they giving for free

a dlc?

[brittle cypress]

yes

[sharp sierra]

no youre still gonna have to finance it

[brittle cypress]

man the guns

[willow plume]

how the hell is an is2 amphibious ?

[brittle cypress]

they put a propellor on it

duh

[willow plume]

that's quite nice

[dusky burrow]

BTW you can slightly increase the cost if you replace the land cruiser with armored engineer company

[willow plume]

how many factories would it cost to even make one of those divisions

[dusky burrow]

30 armored support vehicles * 24.60 ic + 15 support equipment = 798 total ic

[willow plume]

like 50?

[dusky burrow]

130 if you have no production technologies

40 if you got all the dispersed industry techs

and if you are at 100% stability instead of 50% it would be 36

And you have to keep those factories all running for a year

[willow plume]

bruh

all that for one division

the supply use must be insane as well

[edgy wedge]

I should comm more plane OCs

[dusky burrow]

almost 7 supply per division

Thing is tank design does not change how much supply it uses

[willow plume]

that is cooked

[dusky burrow]

Meanwhile a division like this, which is actually useful, costs like 26 factory-years at the start of the game

And is actually useful

7.5 by the end of the game

5.5 factories will be put on tanks, 1.5 on amtracs, and then .5 divided amongst the remainder

[robust spruce]

Guys I’ve come to conclusion

I am buying eu4.

[buoyant heath]

what are those wave tanks

[dusky burrow]

amphibious heavies

[misty fossil]

how do you have 42 org out of that

[misty fossil]

dont

eu4's troop handling system sucks big time

i have 140 hours in that game and i say its not fun having to deal with a billion rebel stacks

[gusty oracle]

im scared of EU4

[autumn pebble]

Havent been here in awhile

W expansion pass 2

[misty fossil]

touch grass ahh tank

[misty fossil]

me too

the eu4 experience is like building a lego set while there's an earthquake

everything keeps falling apart

[gusty oracle]

how different is it from hoi4

[misty fossil]

very

[gusty oracle]

from what I've heard a lot

[misty fossil]

watch some eu4 videos

and you will get it

its like comparing hoi4 to stellaris

[gusty oracle]

I'll get it someday probably

[misty fossil]

just buy stellaris

its so much more fun

infinitely more fun

in stellaris you can strap an engine array and a planet-obliterating laser onto a planet and blast aliens with it

yeah those rotund things are flying planets

[gusty oracle]

how is this a real game

[edgy wedge]

Reminds me of the dragon v*re event

Damn you Shard and your Rubricator

What does that artifact even do?

[dusky burrow]

it gets debuffs when on plains funnily enough

But 100% special forces is quite amazing

[dire hornet]

Guys i won, and at a pretty small amount of casualties for both sides

[barren depot]

Can anyone gift me la ressistance pls i wanna do collab goverments and allat🙏🙏

[willow plume]

okay but no one has any industry at the start of the game

[bold compass]

can someone explain why ai randomly declares on me even though they don't have a wargoal and never justified?

they just randomly declare on me and the other ai in singeplayer

its happened in MP too

[warped flint]

How can i defeat France as Italy early game

[bold compass]

Paras

[warped flint]

Can't get air supremacy

[bold compass]

You gotta get lucky with Day 1 paradropping

[random snow]

Well this is interesting

[marsh ravine]

germany, soviet, japan does

so does uk

[bold compass]

can anyone answer this?

[brittle cypress]

Can you give an example

[marsh ravine]

focus id guess

[willow plume]

well not much that is

[warped flint]

I don't want to get unlucky then have to try again

[bold compass]

Right now, I was playing greece and randomly got declared on by Fascist Ireland

[brittle cypress]

Oh

were they in a faction?

[bold compass]

Even Germany who just did anchluss delcared on me

in another game

[marsh ravine]

then u just have to bruteforce it

[bold compass]

Japan delcared on me as Bulgaria

no faction nonsense

[warped flint]

Through the alps with red air?

[bold compass]

it just happens

[warped flint]

Impossible

[marsh ravine]

very possible

[brittle cypress]

Paradrop harder

[marsh ravine]

make mountaineers

paratroopers always launch day1

if u have enough transport planes

[bold compass]

I'm trying to get achievements but this is making it impossible

[marsh ravine]

air supremacy literally doesnt matter

[bold compass]

I have to keep fighting super wars for no reason

[warped flint]

I don't wanna do paras, i hate them

[marsh ravine]

just have it set to launch before you even declare

[warped flint]

so annoying

[marsh ravine]

then brute force it

[brittle cypress]

Naval invade?

[warped flint]

where ?

[marsh ravine]

doesnt fra have more supremacy?

[brittle cypress]

South and snake

[warped flint]

Somewhere around here?

[bold compass]

I have had Soviets declare on me as Britain in 1937

no warning

[brittle cypress]

It’s AI I’m hoping they just forget about that

[marsh ravine]

r u british btw?

[brittle cypress]

no

[marsh ravine]

😭

dw then

[brittle cypress]

[bold compass]

Is my game just bugged?

is nobody else having this problem?

[marsh ravine]

i ws gonna ask for help in eng lit 💀 cos i cba to do ts

[willow plume]

non historical im guessing?

[bold compass]

I'm on non hist but how would that make a difference?

[marsh ravine]

do u have any mods on?

[bold compass]

The ai are declaring war without a war goal

just cosmetics

[marsh ravine]

or changed any game rules?

[bold compass]

nope

[willow plume]

ok thats odd

[bold compass]

only gamerule changed is ironman mode on

[willow plume]

that just prevents u from reloading earlier saves

[bold compass]

I wouldn't be mad if I could just use the console to make me at peace with them

[bold compass]

yeah

[brittle cypress]

I cannot help because I am meant to be doing my own work rn

[bold compass]

but in iron man I can't force peace to fix the issue myself

[brittle cypress]

Why is being British a requirement smh

[marsh ravine]

cos its for gcse 💀

my mock

is in less than 3h

and ts is the one i send to colleges 💀

[bold compass]

Should I try just playing on hist for a bit

see if the ai will sort themselves out

my germany was also bugged for a bit

when they do the civil war side

they just stop doing political focuses

[brittle cypress]

i don't know what that is but good luck it sounds important

[willow plume]

wait is college different to uni in the uk?

[marsh ravine]

basically u do mocks, then teachers make expected grades based off of them and u snet that shit to colleges, then they save a space for u if u do well enough, but you still need to meet the "deal" or whatever its called at actual gcse

[marsh ravine]

its diff per nation in the uk iirc

but for england

primary, secondary (me), college, uni

4-11, 11-16, 16-19, anything

[willow plume]

ahhh now i understand

so gcses are like year 10 and then u go to college and then uni

[marsh ravine]

yr11

both yrs

end of yr10, start of yr11, half way through yr11, then gcse

im in my second mocks rn

[willow plume]

good luck 👍

[marsh ravine]

thanks 😭

[random snow]

Uh oh

[warped flint]

Landed, instantly attacked, couldn't even react

[marsh ravine]

mil access from ger launch into brest and calais?

[warped flint]

I am done for hoi4, probably for today

[torn fox]

making that picture the server's pfp was certainly one of the decisions of all time

[warped flint]

its making me want to rip my hair out right now

[trim pike]

Oh predicted grades?

[marsh ravine]

yes

i done 1 set of mocks

this set of mocks is the "other half" of the tests needed

for a whole grade at gcse

like we did paper 1s first mocks

now im doing all paper 2s

[random snow]

ffs

[gusty oracle]

are we talking about grades

[willow plume]

that doesnt look good

[brittle cypress]

land one division per tile and snake

combine with paradrops

just need to take a few vps

[warped flint]

I am done with hoi4 today, its to late my brain can't process anything

[brittle cypress]

ok wait i did cheat a little you said no paradrops

anyways yeah come at it tomorrow with a fresh mind

[willow plume]

whats snaking?

[thorny oriole]

Avoid fights with enemy divisions and just walk to the vps

Or empty tiles

[brittle cypress]

it is best understood with a visualization

something like

this one is probably the best represenation^

[thorny oriole]

It just looks very funky

[willow plume]

ahhh i understand

wont u run out of supp;lies though?

[thorny oriole]

Uhh kinda but you can follow railways

But usually you only do it if they are completely missing divisions on most tiles

[willow plume]

its still good because it forces them to commit a lot of divisions to encircle u

[willow plume]

ohhh i understand

[thorny oriole]

Yea

[willow plume]

yeah it makes a lot of sense then

[random snow]

is AT still useless in singleplayer

[willow plume]

at is useless?

[thorny oriole]

Kind of cause you never often see the ai with bunch of tank divisions

Or maybe that’s just for me

[willow plume]

ah so it only gives u hard attack

[thorny oriole]

Even if I see a ai tank they are at like 25% strength

[willow plume]

so the ai only goes for infantry

infantry can defend well but is terrible at attacking

[thorny oriole]

Yea

[willow plume]

but tanks are so damn expensive

[random snow]

I use them for pushing

[willow plume]

have tanks at the front

and motorised divisions to fill in the gaps

motorised divisons arent too expensive

[thorny oriole]

If u make lots of trucks then its cheap

[tiny iris]

Hello my HOIs boys.

[indigo violet]

Mediums or heavy’s?

[thorny oriole]

Mediums are overall better right?

[random snow]

It depends if you was fast and light or slow and heavy attack

[willow plume]

idk ive never used tanks much

[tiny iris]

Light tanks are kinda bad. They can be good but just use medium everytime.

[willow plume]

but when i do i use light or medium tanks

[tiny iris]

Medium is the best.

[willow plume]

the speed is nice

oh light tanks are bad?

[tiny iris]

medium can also be speedy

[tiny iris]

for the most part.

[misty fossil]

it is

[misty fossil]

idk

[thorny oriole]

The attack is bad, the speed is good but no point in having high speed if you can’t really push through

[willow plume]

yeah

[misty fossil]

yeah because its a heavy tank

[willow plume]

might as well just make motorised divisions

[tiny iris]

no

Rarely do that if you're not like really rich.

They are so expensive and its just not worth it for some extra speed.

[surreal mist]

3x the price for not 3x the stats

Amazing unit paradox /s

[willow plume]

ok

so infantry and tanks

and motorised divisions with the leftover trucks

[viscid blade]

MTG is free now!!!!!1111!!

[misty fossil]

trucks are even worse

[edgy wedge]

Amen

[frail bolt]

And i have been robbed with mtg

[indigo violet]

Light tanks are useless yeah. Medium is premium

[random snow]

i um i dont know what happend

[brazen quest]

Why its goated

[random snow]

what the hell is happening

[cursive oxide]

How bad of a idea is it to get a battle ship and only put AA on it ?

[misty fossil]

its an excellent idea actually

the idea is how much air attack you can cram on a SHBB before you sacrifice speed

because planes tend to attack SHBBs

so you have an AA sponge that eats up all the enemy air attack

[frail bolt]

Is it historcal?

[misty fossil]

and no im not lying

[cursive oxide]

Img 1000 AA guns on a Yamato

[misty fossil]

i would have 2 heavy guns, 2 dual purpose and the rest AA guns

on a SHBB hull

cant sacrifice speed so keep it at the very least above 28kts, 30 would be nice

[edgy wedge]

How long will the expanpansion pass 2 be avaliable?

[tiny iris]

Don't buy it

It is worth more than me

[edgy wedge]

Yeah ik its 175 bucks

[tiny iris]

Its 50 euros

[edgy wedge]

Down here its 175

[frail bolt]

Im made of money i bought it

[frail bolt]

Thats for every dlc

[edgy wedge]

Nop

Inflation

[frail bolt]

What country

[tiny iris]

What currency?

[dusky burrow]

No

Because of the amphibious property

IDK fully how that works tbh

[cursive oxide]

Rich guy

[edgy wedge]

R$

BRL

Its actually cheaper here

50 euro is like a whole week worth of work

175 reais is like just a few days

[brittle cypress]

heavy tanks don't get plains debuffs

( i also do not know the terrain stats of amphib tanks so I cannot comment on why they have a plains debuff )

[remote quarry]

even better

less stats!

[frail bolt]

I also have everything from hoi4 you name it i have it

[edgy wedge]

Do you have the Tannu Tuva dlc?

[cursive oxide]

💸

[gaunt pawn]

african union?

maybe its the other version of african union

the non anarchist one

[random snow]

uh no etheopia is doing goofy shit and the tanzanians are at war with britan

i may or may not have something to do with it

all because i put the kaiser back in power

shit

[indigo violet]

Do the austrians have a death wish?

[random snow]

i guess so

[random delta]

possibly

[random snow]

im being naval invaded

[indigo violet]

Bruh

[cursive oxide]

you guys in a mp ?

[bold compass]

We are having the same issue 💀

[misty fossil]

yeah i dont get why amphib tanks get plains debuff

i dont remember the BMPs having that in wt

[random delta]

THEY WILL HAVE TO PRY ROME FROM MY COLD DEAD DIVISIONS!

[random snow]

this is why i put in antitank

[marsh ravine]

Maybe its ths supports? Or do they have that

[cursive oxide]

ar you guys al in 1 game or sum ?

[misty fossil]

idk

[misty fossil]

nice encirclement

[marsh ravine]

Cos aren't the supports land cruisers

[willow plume]

man theyre prolly starving to death rn

no supplies im guessing

with 19 divs on one tile

[willow plume]

oh damn

i like the speed

tho

[random delta]

hearts of tuffness 4

[marsh ravine]

Speed is fake as soon as you go out of supply

[cursive oxide]

yes

[indigo violet]

I think they still have supplies due to those harbours. But with that many divisions it shouldnt matter

[random snow]

i just got an achievement

[indigo violet]

Sea mines? Are they useful?

[cursive oxide]

Someone wana play mp ?

[misty fossil]

speed is useless if you cant grind the frontline down

[misty fossil]

not really

gives naval superiority but ur better off just blasting the enemy with your fleet

[indigo violet]

I see

[marsh ravine]

Or just making naval bombers

[indigo violet]

Naval bombers are supreme imo tho

[marsh ravine]

Yes by far

[indigo violet]

Why have a fleet when you can blast the enemies away?

[random snow]

good thing i have anti tank

[indigo violet]

Endsieg?

Which army path did you take?

[vernal isle]

Hai

I am a New player with Just 17 hours of Playrime with Friends and barely understand anything someone wanna Play?

[random snow]

the one where you get rommel

i also got the superior firepower doctrine

[indigo violet]

._.

That doctrine gives you more bonuses for tanks and manoeuvre warfare tho right? So why take superior firepower?

[marsh ravine]

I mean in the tank side its best to go gbp lmao

And for the inf side its best to go massmob

[indigo violet]

Fr?

[marsh ravine]

Yes

Planning makes tanks insane

[indigo violet]

Never considered going massmob as germany

[marsh ravine]

Massmob is by far best inf doctrine

If you go inf side as germany you dont make tanks at all

Outside of space marine

[indigo violet]

Left or right side?

[marsh ravine]

Right side mass assault

[indigo violet]

Might try that next time i go monarchist tbh

[random snow]

FFS

[indigo violet]

Ouch

How far back did the soviets push you jeez?

[marsh ravine]

Stettin

[indigo violet]

Homie is cooked

[random snow]

i have no civs

[indigo violet]

Abandon hope

[marsh ravine]

Cos of trade or?

[random snow]

strikes

[indigo violet]

Did you go four year plan as monarchist?

[random snow]

no

[marsh ravine]

Improved worker

[indigo violet]

^

[marsh ravine]

Anti demo/fasc/commie raids

U gain stab in ghe end

If u can pick anything that increases war support, and effects of low ws on stab, and anything about party popularity impact on stab

[willow plume]

thats true

[random snow]

im doing ensieg at this point

[willow plume]

its so frustrating running out of supply

[radiant bone]

gotta be careful

[willow plume]

like i was playing as turkey and was attacking yemen from saudi arabia but a lack of supply and manpower destroyed my ability to fight

and they pushed me back

[random snow]

im at modern boarders

[marsh ravine]

What's ur div templates

And do u have green air

And what's ur stockpile

[random snow]

im using antitank cause they have like 50 tank div

[marsh ravine]

Just make more of that?

Eventually u should be able to push

If u want make it 36w

You would have less total divs but those divs have big stat

[random snow]

i might try to push to danzig

only thing i have working for me is arty

[rose prawn]

This is a disastersave

[random snow]

i just saved it sorta

[rose prawn]

Nice

[random snow]

i naval invaded Kurland with some panzer divisions and i blitz to riga but they were destroyed so i rushed some at infantry and its holding on for dear life intil i can reach it with my counter attack

might have to stop soon a little short on guns

ngl this is my fav soundtrack

omfg

thats real bold of you

[misty fossil]

thats just an excuse to not learn navy

and i dont like it

[random snow]

god dammit

[misty fossil]

its not about naval bombers itself that i dont like but rather the attitude

[random snow]

this is bullshit

for christ sake

all of this bullshit because of my dumbass ally

tbh i would like to see that x4 air to air missle become a specal project

i mean we already got SAMs we might aswell have air to air missles

[indigo violet]

Shhh

I do navy so rarely anyways

Paratroopers is the real shit

[random snow]

i make good navys if i have the resources and or time

once i had to wait till 43 because i forgot to turn on historical ai and when i went to do anchlus austria refused

[cursive oxide]

Bru

[trim pike]

Looks like a gpu problem

[misty fossil]

i think your monitor has measles

or smallpox

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-a35-a-zed-five-press-the-button-gif-14336592

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-reactor-megawatts-numbers-gif-18359214715742235194

[random delta]

nice

[valid solar]

When is man the guns going to be integrated into the main game

[faint carbon]

you mean "when are the people who bought it going to be robbed?"

[vernal isle]

how do i make policital paranoia activ as soviet union

[snow rain]

please stop with thisnonsense.
I bout this DLC 5 years ago, I'm glad if anything else that they're integrating it into base game because I literally paid to enjoy it 5 years earlier
The only people being "robbed" ar ethose who bought it a few weeks ago which there musn't be that many first and foremost and paradox couldn't avoid people buying it right before the announcement second
I mean, what do you expect ? As soon as they decide to make it free, they have to choose an announcement date and since then, there will always be people that just bought it no matter when

The people that complain about this are literally the same people that complain about the dlc policy in the first place imo
it's just pure yap with nothing behind it. Sure you can ask for veteran compensation but you can't expect it. You still got to enjoy a product for 6 years dammit

[dry kayak]

i have a strange issue: i making an upgraded model of a fighter but the games keeps producing the old one even though i have only the new on production and qith upgrading status

[snow rain]

what do you mean it's producing the old fighters ?
you sure you aren't confusing the fighters in stockpile with the ones you're producing ? Because you'll have old fighters in stockpile while the newer ones gradually replace the old ones in the deployed air wings

[indigo violet]

I‘m pretty sure i got it while its free so me personally it doesnt even matter, glad newer players can enjoy it freely integrated now tho

[dry kayak]

i checked all, the game kept producing the old one after upgrading some planes, now i deployed all the old and i wanna see if i deploy all the stock then the bug disappear

[snow rain]

how do you know it's producing the old ones ?

[dry kayak]

because i'm producing the Centauro 3.6/day for a year and i had around 1300 Folgore version, but the production tab said that i only had 40 models to upgrade lol

[snow rain]

that's probably because of MIOs

do you have arms against tyranny DLC ?

[dry kayak]

mios?

[snow rain]

also, check stockpiles

[dry kayak]

by blood alone

[snow rain]

do you have arms against tyranny or no ? bba doesn't matter

[dry kayak]

nope

[snow rain]

have you deployed divisions ?

new divs/airwings that use said equipment

[atomic grove]

why didnt i get the vichy fleet as germany

even though i reached toulon within 2 days

it said that it was successful

but i didnt recieve the vichy fleet

the free french didnt get it either

[dry kayak]

yep, now i've deployed all the old stock and it seems that is really upgrading them

[snow rain]

what are you talking about ?
describe the event/mission and what mods you're using

[atomic grove]

no mods

i used operation case anton

and yes, vichy was in my faction and was at war with the allies

and lost all of north africa

[snow rain]

yeah, that was just the current airwings getting their old models replaced

[snow rain]

what was the mission ? I'm pretty sure vichy destroys its fleet when you case anton them

[dry kayak]

it seems that after some unknown amount of stock planes it doesnt keep upgrading them

[snow rain]

if uk didn't blow it up already i mean

[atomic grove]

doing the decision annexes vichy in 7 days, and if u want the vichy navy then u must get to toulon within 2 days after their annexation

[snow rain]

that doesn't sound right

[atomic grove]

idk

[snow rain]

would make sense if you were at war

[atomic grove]

it just said that the french would scuttle their fleet if u didnt reach toulon within 2 days

therefore if u did reach toulon in 2 days, u could stop the french from scuttling/destroying their navy

but the thing is, where does the navy go

[snow rain]

was vichy in the war with uk ?

[atomic grove]

yes

[snow rain]

then it was probably dead

[atomic grove]

no it wasnt

when i clicked the decision and checked their navy

[snow rain]

with la resistance DLC vichy stays out of the war so that might be it

[atomic grove]

they still had their navy with them

[snow rain]

or you didn't reach it in time (it's 48 hrs) so excpet with paratroopers/motorized div from nice you can't reach it in time

[atomic grove]

i did use a motorized div

[snow rain]

from a thread on paradox forums apparently

[atomic grove]

i am absolutely sure that it reached it within 2 days

[snow rain]

if this even works

[atomic grove]

because i set the speed low

and on railways

the division started at the italian tile right next to nice

[snow rain]

hold on gonna test it

what DLCs have you got on ?

[slim sigil]

can you play multiplayer with steam offline

im logged into paradox account and allat

[cursive oxide]

Is there a command to break up factions?

[snow rain]

don't know about that but you can alsway tag switch to the faction leader, type "nocb" and kick everyone then disband it

[dry kayak]

ok, it's bugged, it keeps producing the old one no sense

[indigo violet]

Orrr, you get toolpack and click the funny dismantle faction button :3

[cursive oxide]

What's the switch command?

[indigo violet]

Tag (country tag)
To find out the country tag you can do tdebug and hover over the country

[cursive oxide]

I now the tag

But what's the rest of the command

[atomic grove]

all

[snow rain]

tag countrytag
then
nocb

don't forget to pause the game or ai will ruin your country

[cursive oxide]

Its not working

[snow rain]

try allowdiplo instead of nocb

[cursive oxide]

No the hole switch nation thing

[lapis snow]

which country are you trying to switch to?

[cursive oxide]

The uk

[lapis snow]

"tag ENG"

[cursive oxide]

Ok and then ?

[lapis snow]

what francis said

nocb

[lapis snow]

no

bruh

type, and I quote:
"tag eng"
then
"nocb"

then kick and dismantle the faction

[sudden thistle]

😭

U are giving him clear instructions

[cursive oxide]

Got it

[snow rain]

tested it, tried having divs there before and after clicking the decision, nothing ever happens so it's broken
also tried to swap to vichy to see if it'd change anything and it doesn't

[atomic grove]

darn it

[snow rain]

my guess is a DLC that came afterwards broke it somehow but that's pure guess

[valid solar]

Can you just tell me

[snow rain]

it's already free from what I can see

[valid solar]

Great

[snow rain]

if not, it'll probably be when the update comes out

[sudden thistle]

My favorite price

[misty fossil]

thats what she said

[sudden thistle]

?

[misty fossil]

?

[sudden grotto]

🤨 ?

[vernal isle]

Am i the only one who is too poor for No step back

[sudden grotto]

Nope

[vernal isle]

Awh

[worthy widget]

What would you guys say are the best plane templates in sp?

[sudden thistle]

Uhhh

Max heavy MG, engine 3, armour plates x2 and usually self sealing fuel tanks

I don’t have templates saved on my phone

So sorry for no picture

[worthy widget]

And for bombers or cas?

[sudden thistle]

CAs is just max heavy bomb locks, engine 3, drop tanks, dive brakes

And maybe something else if y want it

Bombers (large airframe I suppose) are usually 4-5 bomb bays, bomb sight, 4x engine 3, then I usually just spam out extra fuel tanks

Bombers are a preference design wise

[worthy widget]

Alr, thanks.

[elder glen]

is 40-70 organzation too low

[coral gorge]

yes

right click on the faction leader

eval_effect dismantle_faction = yes

[sudden thistle]

Nah

[elder glen]

is 1 organzation low

[sudden thistle]

Perhaps

[sudden grotto]

Pov they walk, they die

They dissapear

[elder glen]

is -1 organzation too low

[sudden thistle]

Funny thing is, those divs won’t engage in combat

[elder glen]

sad

[sudden thistle]

I remember getting -30 org on a div once

[elder glen]

oh? i thought negative organzation isnt possible

[sudden thistle]

With mods yea

[elder glen]

make sense

[sudden thistle]

It was Great War redux

[humble wing]

When Will the First Dev diary be?

[sudden thistle]

Today

[humble wing]

Yea when tough

[sudden thistle]

In around 2-5 hours

[humble wing]

Damn

Arent they usually around 2pmCEST?

[sudden thistle]

I forget when they usually come

[humble wing]

Around 2pm cest i think no?

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[humble wing]

Quick check then online

[sudden thistle]

Wonderful then lol

[humble wing]

Around 2-6pm CEST

That Is quite the time

I am too curious tò wait so long

[worthy widget]

As german kaiser, should I go bewegungskrieg or blitzkrieg? I have around 180 inf and 12 6-6 medium tanks (im ramping up tank production)

[gleaming iron]

should i help the allies in africa

[worthy widget]

you could get some army xp + spend pp on anything

[gleaming iron]

i got the political power for not spending it from 1937-1939

im trying to NOT spend it all at once

but army xp?

yeah imma do it

[worthy widget]

do you have a chief of army?

[gleaming iron]

but should i send the whole squad or keep some behind?

[gleaming iron]

yup

mohan singh

[worthy widget]

I would leave some

[gleaming iron]

nevermind they handled it

[worthy widget]

Send like 2 divs to the north for xp

so attrition isn't as bad

[gleaming iron]

but italy is in the way

[worthy widget]

kill italy

for fun

[gleaming iron]

ill build factories and focus on my focus tree instead

i need to be stronk at independence

[worthy widget]

if you kill italy you get autonomy

and can get rid of debuffs

that autonomy gives

[gleaming iron]

tempting

[worthy widget]

In the Germany army tree, bewegungskrieg or blitzkrieg? Blitz right? For rommel

[gleaming iron]

i should send some troops to greece

italy just declared war on them

and when i am on the upperhand will start invading albania

[gleaming iron]

let me check

[worthy widget]

Rommel gives +15% armor defense and +10% attack, but my army is mostly inf

and bewegungskrieg is more inf based but armor is just so good

[cursive oxide]

What nation can release the most puppets in 1936 ?

[gleaming iron]

france

[worthy widget]

france probably

[cursive oxide]

Ok

[gleaming iron]

do i send troops to greece by navy only?

[worthy widget]

Yeah, british should have naval superiority

[gleaming iron]

yeah they got a ton of ports to send through

[worthy widget]

you should research naval invasion improvement for 30 naval invasion cap, then just invade along the italian coast at rome. Then the civil war wil trigger and italy is out

they suck at guarding

[gleaming iron]

aaaaand famine struck

[gleaming iron]

huh ok

invade italy now for the greece

i have a feeling germany is not very aggressive

[willow plume]

non historical?

[gleaming iron]

historical

[willow plume]

hmmm

[gleaming iron]

look at switzerland

[willow plume]

this is odd

germany shouldve conquered france by nowr

[gleaming iron]

exactly

[willow plume]

maybe its a bug?

[gleaming iron]

maybe

[worthy widget]

I once had a historical where germany didn't even kill poland, matter of fact, poland almost reached moscow after 1941 when the soviets also declared

(the soviets had everyone on my border)

(as iran)

[gleaming iron]

okay okay

france is gonna get eaten

[worthy widget]

spend pp, 2000 is cap

you dont want anything to get lost right?

[gleaming iron]

nope

ill spend it

on government

[worthy widget]

can you show your government/laws/army advisors?

[worthy widget]

war eco

VERY important

[willow plume]

huh thats interesting

maybe theres another setting thats affecting it

[gleaming iron]

what

[worthy widget]

change your economy (the toaster) to the tank

you now have a big debuff

there is no negative from upgrading your law

[gleaming iron]

ohok

done

[worthy widget]

Look at the debuffs you removed

this allows you to build factories

properly

[gleaming iron]

oh wow

i thought it was fixed

[worthy widget]

and also change your conscription (the man) to more men, you are runnning out of manpower

[gleaming iron]

im not independent

[worthy widget]

oh, thought it was allowed for india

[gleaming iron]

and its alright if i ran out, its because of the famine i was talking about

itll end in a bit

[worthy widget]

what are your templates btw?

for your units?

[gleaming iron]

yeah whats a template?

i forgot i wanted to ask that when i joined

[worthy widget]

the deploy button, the you see your units -> train | edit

click edit

[gleaming iron]

ok

[worthy widget]

can you send a ss?

[worthy widget]

do you have artillery/support equipment?

[gleaming iron]

i did research them

didnt know what to do with those

[worthy widget]

What I like to always do is add:

-Engineer company
Gives bonus defense and entrenchment (More entrenchment is more defense)

-Support artillery
Gives more soft attack, makes your units do more damage

You need support equipment and artillery

[gleaming iron]

to all of them?

[worthy widget]

btw dont save it yet, first hover over the save button and see if you have the equipment

[worthy widget]

add it to your infantry template, it auto adds it to every unit using that template

[gleaming iron]

ok

[serene token]

EU4 is 90 percent off.

[gleaming iron]

HERE I COME ITALY

[worthy widget]

just a question, why are you using nato symbols?

do you just like it more?

[gleaming iron]

yeah

[worthy widget]

and you should train your units

[gleaming iron]

doing alot of them

ALOT

[worthy widget]

see the clover when you select your units?

[gleaming iron]

one second

wait let me get a bit of albania firs

[willow plume]

90% ?

[worthy widget]

that's the problem with that. It means your unit isn't trained, giving them a -25% combat bonus.

green (clover)- trained - regular (2 silver lines with star)- seasoned - veteran

-25% to +75% in stepts of 25%

your units can train to regular, combat can train to veterans

[gleaming iron]

ohhhh

should i train sikh regiments only? because theyre at lv3

[worthy widget]

they are fully trained

train everyone else

[gleaming iron]

exercise them?

[worthy widget]

yes

[gleaming iron]

ok

[worthy widget]

until they are level 3

[gleaming iron]

okay

theyre all at lv2 now

oh and also

where to report a bug?

because i saw one potrait to two different countries

[willow plume]

u can also lose experience

which sucks

[gleaming iron]

whats happening to france

[willow plume]

oh yeah

peru and ecuador go to war like every game

[gleaming iron]

but the portraits

the photo of the leader

look at it

[willow plume]

oh yeah the game recycles portraits sometimes

[worthy widget]

That only when your units are small or just bad really

[willow plume]

or losing a battle?

[gleaming iron]

italian paris

what is happening with this game man

[willow plume]

like say getting 6 infantry divs to attack across a river into a mountain province with no supply

[gleaming iron]

plus im on historical ai focuses

HISTORICAL

[willow plume]

bruh

are u sure

this feels like non historical

[gleaming iron]

it is historical

i checked it

before starting the game

[misty fossil]

why do you have 1000 political power

spend it on something

improve your stability

[gleaming iron]

thats exactly not what im gonna do

fornow

[misty fossil]

💀

[gleaming iron]

and ive already spent it alot

[misty fossil]

improve worker conditions?

[gleaming iron]

no

everything else

oh and my stability is 72.5%

its just the other stuff making it 28

[willow plume]

hmmm

maybe its a bug then

[gleaming iron]

oh i did strengthen britain and france

maybe cause of that

[fallen vigil]

Cheers mate

[willow plume]

yeah i think this is it

[willow plume]

lol

[steady thorn]

its the thought that counts right

[gleaming iron]

switzerland be like:

france...

i didnt make germany nor italy stronger

[willow plume]

well the ai did hold out for another year

and the default ai never defends the border with belgium

and so germany always steamrolls them

[fallow grove]

Why when the allies cap Germany they always leave the German reich in brandenburg

[willow plume]

in 1945?

[fallow grove]

1942

[willow plume]

not enough war score ?

can u explain

[fallow grove]

I am playing as brazil

And they did war in europe

[willow plume]

yeah

sometimes the ai does that

they leave behind a rump state

[sudden thistle]

Why do u have so little factories

[willow plume]

india starts with like 2 mils if i remember correctly

[sudden thistle]

So?

And it’s 4

[willow plume]

ok i remembered wrong then

[gleaming iron]

28

[misty fossil]

you might want to deal with your famine situation...

[gleaming iron]

yeah i know

[misty fossil]

thats

a lot of trucks you're missing

[gleaming iron]

im gonna have to become a dominian before doing the focus tree to remove the famine

[gleaming iron]

no need for now

[misty fossil]

💀

[gleaming iron]

wait no

i mean yes

[willow plume]

whats the problem?

[misty fossil]

i meant to respond to sitara

usually you dont need that many trucks unless its for logistics

nor do i think you need 4 mils on trains

ur wasting heaps of ic on things you dont need

[willow plume]

u dont need to motorise every supply hub

[misty fossil]

well

[willow plume]

1 is more than enough

[misty fossil]

hes missing 1371 trucks

[willow plume]

unless ur getting bombed

[misty fossil]

100% supply demands met btw

so idk what kind of black hole is sucking up them trucks

30w motorised sucks too so

dont use that

[willow plume]

yeah maybe 1 mil on trucks would be enough

make tanks

tanks are quite expensive

[gleaming iron]

when i left this happened

fixed the truck problem and gunner problem

oh and also

[misty fossil]

oh good grief

gg

[gleaming iron]

i have a non agression pact + millitary access with ussr, yugoslavia, mongolia and that ussr mongolian buffer state thingy

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[gleaming iron]

after this game ill get dlcs on and get nuclear gandhi

[stoic portal]

i dont know why ive been surviving longer then france and the others

[scenic moon]

When i forgot trucks again

[scenic moon]

You defend 2k crazy

[misty fossil]

probs has something to do with rommel doing 2 damage

[stoic portal]

yes but atleast ive been surviving for 9 months in game now🥰

yum yum im eating the germans

[visual pasture]

the hell am i watching

kiwi carriers with no planes

oh

[arctic raven]

when albania focus tree

[marsh comet]

2027 maybe.

[glossy canyon]

do we know how much will the new dlc will be?

[marsh comet]

I think it would be better if Molotov ribbentrop pact could lead to a decision that costs 10 or something political power to make it happen, just so you can do it on historic day?. Maybe it could be done with Danzig or war focus too so it adds a decision that you can click on to make the demand to Poland.

[misty fossil]

Battle of south china sea

[tall nacelle]

wait are they releasing a new dlc

[slim nexus]

No