hoi4-general

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

[robust spruce]

how do u support a empire that big branacho 💀

[plucky girder]

napoleon thought he'd win by just taking Moscow....

[finite plume]

They don't

They just pointed at random towns

Raided

Then continued

[robust spruce]

Sweden actually almost won but general winter came

[plucky girder]

they focused on quick victories instead of a really long lasting war of atrition

(nazi Germany and france)

[finite plume]

They literally used the Black Plague as a weapon 🥀

[robust spruce]

I watch the hawk tuah podcast while playing hoi4 with tequila

[plucky girder]

is thay kievan rus or smth?

[robust spruce]

nah Swedish empire

They lost to Russia in 1709

And then became neutral

yk

[plucky girder]

what ware is that?

[robust spruce]

Great northern war

1700-1721

Bruh @plucky girder

It only lets me into 1.5.3 cornflakes (old)

That’s so bs?

[plucky girder]

weird

[robust spruce]

Nvm im kidding

I didn’t know beta parti was there

[robust spruce]

Thanks bro now I can play the mod

[plucky girder]

finally

[junior oyster]

ITS THE END

poland fell for 3 seconds

[winter urchin]

@gaunt pawn mercenaries enabled.. cmon little buddy

join the 1.5x game

[robust spruce]

Soviet’s

[junior oyster]

MANPOWER

YES

[robust spruce]

Omg ty bro @plucky girder

now I can play 1919 or 1444 if I want

[plucky girder]

that will be 5 euros

[robust spruce]

How abt I run

[plucky girder]

what if you can't.

[robust spruce]

what if I grab a sword and slash you

[plucky girder]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-bazooka-gif-10458898

[robust spruce]

boom

guys I once did a hoi4 run and bro Germany was like HRE again

[idle grotto]

кто со мной в хойку

[robust spruce]

sorry but nobody here speaks Russian

[junior oyster]

dang

[plucky girder]

what if I hawk your tuah, skibidi rizz that gyatt and 67 your tralalero

[junior oyster]

germany started

[idle grotto]

who can come with me to Hoi4?

[robust spruce]

Brr brr para pin

[fair horizon]

Golshi pfp

[plucky girder]

https://tenor.com/view/true-austria-franz-josef-fleischkassemmel-fact-checked-gif-6699467293027370503

[robust spruce]

Franz Joseph an Austrian god

[junior oyster]

im forcing yugoslavia to become communist frfr

[plucky girder]

you can technically annex every neighbour as Bulgaria with the communist path

[junior oyster]

what

[robust spruce]

Wait was it not communist before ww2?

[plucky girder]

bro

[junior oyster]

wait

can i make it commie using coups

also

i gtg

[robust spruce]

Bulgaria went into its villain arc after the first Balkan war

[plucky girder]

yugoslavia became communist because of the communist resistance and partisans during German ocupation

[junior oyster]

how do i make yugoslavia communist

[robust spruce]

Oh yea guys not to be political

But rip to Charlie

[plucky girder]

did you improve relations

[junior oyster]

yes

65

[plucky girder]

he got shot while trying to defend gun possession

[junior oyster]

75*

[plucky girder]

rip

[robust spruce]

wait until the war is over then press tag Yugoslavia tag and then ur communist

[plucky girder]

click on them

[junior oyster]

yes

[sullen meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-its-over-family-guy-peter-griffin-stewie-griffin-it's-over-gif-16727810458562039039

[plucky girder]

and tell me how much community support they have

[junior oyster]

uhh

[plucky girder]

communist

[robust spruce]

Is ussr communist

[junior oyster]

wdym communist support

also i gtg

[plucky girder]

🤦‍♂️

[junior oyster]

sorry

[plucky girder]

that

[plucky girder]

oh alr

[junior oyster]

i gtg bye chat

[junior oyster]

cya tmrw

[robust spruce]

bye

[junior oyster]

👋

[plucky girder]

it's better for you to watch a tutorial, it explains much better than I ever could

cya

[junior oyster]

ok

[frail wharf]

.

[polar vault]

Can someone explain how france gets divisions into poland even though I've cut off every way into poland I can think of?

[wind swift]

What year is it?

[wanton whale]

I will not negotiate with Automatons

[winter urchin]

check if they have mil access in bordering nations

[wanton whale]

28/09/2025

[winter urchin]

Ingame

[wind swift]

A real comedian

[polar vault]

Fellow hd2 and hoi4 fan?

[wanton whale]

I know know, I'm so funny

[wind swift]

Also its the 27th here

[wanton whale]

Ok Mr Amercia

or smth

idk

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/clanker-kylo-ren-star-wars-star-wars-meme-roger-roger-gif-5903216794408442685

[wind swift]

Thats me

[wanton whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375048213639331852/1411312346810421248/attachment.gif

[fair horizon]

NUKE IT FROM ORBIT

[trail gate]

softest KR russia experience

[wind swift]

Lulz

[fair horizon]

NO SQUIDS NO SOULESS MACHINES AND DEFINITELY NO BUGS

[wind swift]

What year is that happening in?

[wanton whale]

HELLDIVER, WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING THE MAJOR ORDER!!!

[wind swift]

The only good bug is a...

[polar vault]

It was happening in 1940 but I got cooked by by the joint france-polish forces

[wind swift]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-planet-starship-troopers-bug-gif-12807532384225501

[fair horizon]

3 second break to explore the scenery sir

[polar vault]

ITS 2.4 SECONDS YOU SOCIALIST

[fair horizon]

Nuh uh General Brash himself told me i could

[wind swift]

My understanding is also that you cant really block it. They can always get convoys past unless you own the ports

But Im a noob and im made of rocks so yk

[fathom cipher]

ok is hoi5 actually real

[wind swift]

Its real in our hearts 💕

[fair horizon]

Probs through romania if i had to guess

[wanton whale]

Eh, sometimes they have units already in there or like you said, mil access. If he had ports they can't get in.

[fathom cipher]

Fair enough

It needs to be reality

hoi4 crashes every 15 minutes

[sudden thistle]

Well well well

[fathom cipher]

(millennium dawn)

[wind swift]

Word

[wind swift]

Hey I have Germany question

[fathom cipher]

oh no

[fair horizon]

WAIT A MINUTE, THATS A DIRTY BOT SYMPATHIZER

[wanton whale]

YES IT IS

IT'S A COMMIE

[wind swift]

Nobody will answer my Germany question. And it hurts

[fathom cipher]

when oil is found

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-liberty-500kg-bomb-meme-gif-9134761466947278637

[wanton whale]

Real

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-fact-checked-gif-11224128901468304627

[wind swift]

Rare earths these days. Were pretty good on oil

[fair horizon]

You didnt ask the question

[fathom cipher]

but nowadays

[finite plume]

Fellas, Gadies and Lentlemen

[fathom cipher]

we need synthetic

[finite plume]

Should I work on Puerto Rico or Jamaica's provinces first

[wanton whale]

Lenin men?

[fair horizon]

NO WE DONT YOU CLANKER SYMPATHIZER

[wind swift]

Gellas, Fadies, and Lentlemen

[wanton whale]

Uhhhh, Luxembourg

[fathom cipher]

synthetic oil > regular oil

real

[finite plume]

They already have too much provinces

[wind swift]

OK

As Germany

[wanton whale]

Ok ok, invest into the USSR, they are small

[fair horizon]

WE USE E-710

[wind swift]

After Poland, is there anything wrong w going Baltic first?before around d magibit

[fathom cipher]

'we need to stop ruining the planet!'

[wanton whale]

Well, it's now E-711

[finite plume]

Uhhhh

[fair horizon]

France being annoying

[wanton whale]

Just let the USSR annex them then annex them

[wanton whale]

See!! Tiny

[finite plume]

-_-

[fathom cipher]

french people being toxic:
also french people: surrender

[wind swift]

They won't just sitzkrieg?

[wind swift]

I let the Commies do nothing and I give them nothing

[fathom cipher]

bad

[wanton whale]

🔥

[fathom cipher]

invading via maginot

is red flag

[finite plume]

We just gonna ignore Monika?

[wanton whale]

I did it for the giggles

Infantry only

[wanton whale]

Yes, yes we are

[fathom cipher]

Well done

now UK

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-jamss-doaxes-staring-when-you-know-gif-10152841660313287334

[wind swift]

Why are so many discord gamers into weird anime ish?

When will it make sense

[dusky burrow]

Yeah maginot is quite weak actually

[wanton whale]

Oh I'm not into anime, I just like using the anime mods because why the hell not

[wind swift]

Ya but u know what I mean

[wanton whale]

Literally, just use CAS + Fortress buster and concentrate units

[finite plume]

Wouldn't it be weirder to use real women tho

[wanton whale]

Boom

[wanton whale]

fair fair

[wind swift]

Every game, every server, 80% weird little girls in pfps

[wanton whale]

If I did a mod with my GF's face it would be weird, yes.

[urban matrix]

Will Czechoslovakia get the same "elect a monarch" system as Poland?

[wind swift]

No, because they'd be women. The weird part is the anime looks like kids, little grils

[finite plume]

Okay Loli is an issue

But calling all of Anime Loli/Shota is just ignorant lmao

[wanton whale]

Never

[wind swift]

I am asking questions because im clearly ignorant of the niche subculture

[dusky burrow]

Railway guns reduces that to 100%, 65% fort busting just from support companies, and then the rest is just yeah, CAS + Fortress Buster (if you have fortress buster you also already have 25% bonus to forts)

[urban matrix]

No Habsburg Czechoslovakia 😔

[wind swift]

Proud of it tbf lol but id like to know

[finite plume]

Yes, it's niche, so why call the whole community/genre weird over a small minority

[wanton whale]

Yea true true, but, I couldn't be bothered for railway guns and had just beaten Austria, Romania and Hungary with 24 divisions before I got those other divisions out and was sweating (quite literally)

[wanton whale]

It will never be real!!!!

[finite plume]

What's a Czechoslovakia?

[wind swift]

Nevermind man if you dont know what im talking about im not trying to get that deep just wondered if it was an inside joke or something.

[robust spruce]

Doakes is my favorite guy

[fair horizon]

A fake country

[urban matrix]

I wanna believe

[finite plume]

What inside joke bro Loli is literally legally defined as CP 😭

[wanton whale]

Funny thing is, they will add a czech tree and it will make Germany more OP when they annex Czech because there will be no doubt the czechs will have more industry focuses.

[finite plume]

Ah, more AI speedrunning the USSR

[fair horizon]

I think hes trying to naval invade

[wanton whale]

Yea

[finite plume]

Biblically Accurate UK

[wanton whale]

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPP

[wind swift]

I dont know what that is brother. I do t know the terms. To me ur pfp is sorta weird but im not saying it's illegal lol

Its just a weird anime chick in a ww2 game so seemed outta place

[urban matrix]

Ah yes, "my worst nightmare" chamberlain leader of the "my worst nightmare" party

[finite plume]

It's literally just a reskin 🥀

[wanton whale]

I remember once I was chilling as Germany and saw my surrender progress was like 30%, I look back and all of a sudden the UK is nearly in Berlin with 5 cav divisions. Luckily I had 48 divisions in reserves but still 🙏

My navy could have beaten the british but it was reparing after I had anhilated half their fleet

[sudden thistle]

Hm

[wanton whale]

Bit late 🙏

[sudden thistle]

I’m busy doing something

[runic moth]

how bad is barbarossa usually suppose to go as the ussr ingame?

[dusky burrow]

You get pushed hard I believe

Don't expect to hold unless the Allies D-Day soon after

[runic moth]

this hard?

[wanton whale]

How to get pushed as soviets?

[runic moth]

what templates do you use?

[shy bloom]

Romania is still kicking for fighting the Soviets, Bulgarians and Yugoslavians for 1 year.

[wanton whale]

Literally just the normal template with some AA, engineer company and arty thrown in. My tank templates are hard to get into but aren't needed. Just focus on Air and Infantry stuff and spam is out.

[lone sail]

Hot take: graveyard is great and I hope paradox makes more DLCs like it

Iraq is great

[wanton whale]

Good DLC, just over priced

[lone sail]

Especially with rt56

[wanton whale]

All of Paradoxs DLC are good just over priced

[runic moth]

like this right? because that's what im on

[wanton whale]

Yea, just throw in Engineer company

[lone sail]

Bosphorus just sucks

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-fact-checked-gif-11224128901468304627

[lone sail]

Turkey is absolute dog shit aside from Devliti Alliye Osmaniye

[wanton whale]

Reeeel

You spend half the game fixing your country

[dusky burrow]

Right for defensive use

[dusky burrow]

Not useful for defensive use

They need an actual offensive division

[wanton whale]

Yea but I wanna be offensive

RAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

I wanna hold for 1 year then absolutely thunderstruck the Germans

With my 200k infantry equipment in storage

150 mills on guns

[sudden thistle]

Why no Baltics

[runic moth]

i cant hold for a couple months ive ost ukraine in 1 month and im a 30k deficit on guns

[wanton whale]

Set of 3 defensive lines

Build up mill industry

I always set up 3 backup lines

Then if my 1st holds or 2nd

I send all the army in to hold

[runic moth]

got busy w other focuses to bother with them and that would just make the line bigger which i defo dont need

[wanton whale]

You need zat entrenchment

Also holdy supply

[runic moth]

that's what ive been doing from the start

[wanton whale]

If you were holding the line

[dusky burrow]

What do your offensive infantry look like though

[runic moth]

keyword were

[wanton whale]

Gimmie a sec

Well uhm

I don't have offensive and defensive infantry

I just have

Infantry

[robust spruce]

Anyone know any good outdated mods I can try

[dusky burrow]

Any tanks?

[wanton whale]

Oh hell yea

[dusky burrow]

Yeah they cna have engineets

Assault engineers are best for them

[wanton whale]

Gng

I make 2k soft attack tank templates

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[runic moth]

im praying they somehow over extend at leningrad (which ive abandoned) and i can micro my way from there

[wanton whale]

goodluck

[dusky burrow]

Me in Sheep's be like

[wanton whale]

I've played against sheeps AI

I just go heavy into defence until the AI is worn down

Then blitzkrieg them into oblivion

Such peak infantry

[random delta]

guys i don't use DLCs please don't erase me from the fabric of reality

[robust spruce]

Gross

[robust spruce]

I don’t either

[runic moth]

i forgot abt crimea

[wanton whale]

You got killed in Season one

Get out

!!!!!!

[wanton whale]

Bro's cooked

[random delta]

what a graceful looking Albania

[wanton whale]

lol

[robust spruce]

Ye but im stronger then trinity

[wanton whale]

Fair fair, you haunt Dexter so

[robust spruce]

Actually

[robust spruce]

Everyone is stronger then that old man

[wanton whale]

anybody could beat him

[random delta]

who knew hoi4 could be tuff

[wanton whale]

Holy jawline

[acoustic grove]

Hmm

[random delta]

should i go and continue my Italy game and probably forget to use field marshals

[runic moth]

bit of an understatment, this is closer to deepfried

[wanton whale]

Ever heard of SHIFT+CLICK

[spice turtle]

@astral forum

[wanton whale]

For field marshall frontlines

[runic moth]

wdym

[wanton whale]

Do shift+clcik for a field marshall frontline

[random delta]

hoi4 is just getting progressively more tuff

[safe wing]

They don’t have that anymore

[runic moth]

pretty sure that's what im doing, what you're seeing is 3 field marshals

[wanton whale]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

[robust spruce]

Guys should they release hoi5

[random delta]

what now

[safe wing]

Yeah with the la resistance dlc you don’t have that

You use the spy agency

Which doesn’t take research slots

[random delta]

i don't use DLCs please don't annex me

[safe wing]

Eventually

[safe wing]

Its fine

I didn’t either from April to December 2019

[runic moth]

the problem is that i cant make a proper front line because the entire axis dont join at the same time

[random delta]

it just keeps getting tuff

[zinc rune]

I see massive skill issue on the screen

[random delta]

gotta continue my Italy game i will come back with more screenshots

[fair horizon]

Yeah instead you use your civs for 150 days and then dont touch the thing ever again

[slim sigil]

spy agency highkey useless in singleplayer

besides getting collab governments

[dusky burrow]

How did you lose New York

[lone sail]

Danzig ist Deutsch

[hushed helm]

all my divisions were in mexico, then the soviet AI did the 4th international and canada joined and got a good jump on me

[dusky burrow]

There are quite a few things you want to do with it tbh

[dusky burrow]

I see

[patent thistle]

YOU DONT HAVE WESTERN MACEDONIA YET

[trail gate]

i dont like having stability anyways.

[patent thistle]

meh, your good still, have had worse

my mental stability for example

[warped flint]

I need to take my aircraft out, i am losing to many, theres no way i can replace those 2 fighters.....

[worn coral]

guys

why do my divisions pull out from combat so fast?

like

in less than 10 seconds

[spice turtle]

low orginisation

[worn coral]

how

its at max

[spice turtle]

je ne sais pas

[worn coral]

what the hell is je ne sais pas

[spice turtle]

i don't know

[random snow]

i just thanos snapped their entire navy

[patent thistle]

the french?

[random snow]

nope british

[patent thistle]

then its 2 thanos snaps at the very least

[robust spruce]

Is kasierreich still good

[random snow]

this is what is left that isnt destroyed

that i can take in the peace deal

[wraith mauve]

Has anyone ever played Russia in tfr

[random snow]

ffs

[lean oasis]

can someone host vanilla

[craggy trail]

[misty fossil]

280 cas damage

[solemn shadow]

is the dlc out

[wanton whale]

So real

[vocal shuttle]

Bro, what in the world just happened

Historical Ironman france btw

[north spoke]

does anyone have a good guide to help me make a navy that can beat the brits as historical germany?

[vocal shuttle]

Plan was to capitulate germany asap by going to war over rhineland but for some reason the british AI decided to support us

[fair horizon]

Make light cruisers with good light attack, you have plenty of battleships so you could build some carriers if you want (hilfkreuzer into carrier is probably the lowest ic cost)

if you put a torpedo tube on each light cruiser you can do decent damage to their capitals

Try to split their fleet by convoy raiding in cape verde plain

Also going down the focus trees gives you semi-built capitals

[atomic grove]

does the sultana also get caliph when you get her when doing this focus even though she isnt leader yet?

[green magnet]

which of these are preferable?

[wraith mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-morgan-dexter-bay-harbour-butcher-rampage-dance-gif-12258265895197000193

[drowsy quarry]

Hii

[wraith mauve]

Hi

[twilit turtle]

hello

[limpid mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011858573564858398/1321507277659701268/attachment-41.gif

[azure sorrel]

Does anyone know a good strat for cheese your fighter achievement?

[random delta]

how exactly am i supposed to take that from Italian Yugoslavia and give it to Albania

[spring relic]

yes

[open cradle]

Is there anything new in the game havent played in couple months

[balmy quarry]

Chat am I fkd

[random delta]

potentially

[balmy quarry]

What is it

[split bane]

Why are you buying Tungsten from Peru? Buy it from Portugal, or just invade them your choice

[balmy quarry]

Uh

Yea I actually just took the focus to get a war goal on portugal

[hybrid galleon]

just started a game as the US and im to scared to look at the Navy

i'll just keep pumping subs out

[balmy quarry]

Flexible or streamlined?

[magic tinsel]

hoi4 is tuff

[balmy quarry]

I don't get it

[magic tinsel]

thats the point of 67

it doesnt make sense

[balmy quarry]

I didn't even notice

[misty fossil]

political

[robust spruce]

Does Great War redux also have the Mexican revolution

[hybrid galleon]

Flexible

[balmy quarry]

Ty

I am noob 😀

[hybrid galleon]

Well the naval strat is to pump out cheap subs to overwhelm the enemy

But that’s for cowards

[radiant bone]

Kicked France, Spain and Portugal out of Africa and formed Latin Africa, fun Congo game. Went independent immediately.

[hybrid galleon]

The worst part about being the US is the damn Naval Treaties

I can’t make my ships better with the UK on my stern

[drowsy quarry]

So Man the Guns DLC will be free?

[hybrid galleon]

Yes it’s getting integrated into the game

Which is what I think they should do with all DLC

Locking tank designer behind a $20 paywall is very scummy

[drowsy quarry]

maaan that would be nice

[hybrid galleon]

But it is paradox we’re talking about so we know that’s not happening

[drowsy quarry]

yea.

[balmy quarry]

noobs first encircle

[proven folio]

Is this relatable?

[meager valley]

Lowkey

[solar badger]

this is so cinema

[north spoke]

rate the encirclement

[opal nymph]

That is an encirlcement alright

[gusty oracle]

2/1939

[random delta]

i will always remember this moment as both my greatest accomplishment and my greatest loss of humanity and touch with society

[hybrid galleon]

I love the American industry

Navy so big I can patrol the pacific and Atlantic

[balmy quarry]

I obliterated the normandy invasion?

[hybrid galleon]

did you?

[hoary mortar]

eepy

[balmy quarry]

uhm

You're making me second guess it

It WAS mainly british forces that landed

Only a few american

👀

[hybrid galleon]

what year?

[balmy quarry]

It's 43 rn

[vast briar]

Australia rework lets gooooooooooo 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🔥 🔥

[hoary mortar]

Aussie W

now am very tired goonight

[random delta]

its just so peak

[hybrid galleon]

Does anyone know what is the meta divisions against the AI is?

Asking for a friend

[balmy quarry]

Apparently this

from a youtuber I watched

Unless you mean the space marine one or whatever

I think that one is just that but with a light tank

added*

[ruby flame]

is this known to not work?

[misty fossil]

nope

[ruby flame]

paradropped it and took Rome and no dice

[misty fossil]

thats a generic line infantry division for holding the line

[balmy quarry]

The meta line infantry

[hushed helm]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron4-hoi4meme-hoi-gif-23707116

[stark coyote]

That's one of the best ones tbh

[misty fossil]

i didnt say its bad

[stark coyote]

Real

I just saw the pricing on the new dlc

That's criminal wtf

[misty fossil]

how much? im not surprised

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/jorito-congregation-gifs-jorito-gifs-jorito-congregation-the-congregation-gif-16486630195925201422

[stark coyote]

Almost 50 USD

[misty fossil]

pff

[stark coyote]

48.77

[misty fossil]

time to ask my friend in vietnam to buy it

[sudden grotto]

55 usd 48,77€

[misty fossil]

thats just sad

[sudden grotto]

In USD its 55

[stark coyote]

No, for me is 48.77

[heady python]

Almost the price of a triple A game that takes years and hundreds of devs to develop

[gusty oracle]

no its 48,77 usd where I am

[stark coyote]

Im watching it in my store

[sudden grotto]

Strange

[stark coyote]

It cost more than Helldivers 2 🤣🤣

[gusty oracle]

idk why they would makle the euro price and USD price the exact same

[sudden grotto]

Shouldnt usd be a bit more for the weaker currency?

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[gusty oracle]

it should

[sudden grotto]

I saw someone having 55 USD as price

[gusty oracle]

weaker currency sounds sad though

[gusty oracle]

mine says 48.77

[sudden grotto]

Then my price Is more expensive 💔

[stark coyote]

That's crazy 💀

[stark coyote]

How much?

[sudden grotto]

The same but in euros

[stark coyote]

Oh

[gusty oracle]

so its just cheaper here

[sudden grotto]

Paradox-chan Is so mean with the pricing

[stark coyote]

I mean, I can get why they would price 36$ like the last time

But now they just did 2 content packs, and one of them only have 1 nation (as far as I know)

[sudden grotto]

I would still buy It anyways lol

[stark coyote]

Graveyard of Empires got 4 nations in the same content pack 💀

[sudden grotto]

They should have added romania along with czech ngl

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[gusty oracle]

we all would

[stark coyote]

Maybe with thag the pricing would be justified imo

[sudden grotto]

*Will 😏

[stark coyote]

But rn it's not, Ill wait for sale ngl 💀💀💀

[gusty oracle]

true

[stark coyote]

Ill only get the Japanese one this time

Just that 😞

[sudden grotto]

No indonesia focus tree? F

[gusty oracle]

im looking at where my family came from on google maps and it looks so nice

[stark coyote]

Ill wait for a future sale tbh

[subtle elm]

mass mobilization italy is such peak

[stark coyote]

Real

[gusty oracle]

have you been playing for 8 hours without a break

[subtle elm]

Yes.

italy is pain

[gusty oracle]

well well well

[stark coyote]

Usual HOI4 play sesion

[sudden grotto]

You gotta wait half a year thats so much patience to hold

[stark coyote]

F it, I wont be paying a lot for a mid focus tree

[stark coyote]

Probably Czechs will be mid too

[subtle elm]

just wait 5 years for it to become free

[sudden grotto]

Pov its gonna be One of the greatest rework

[gusty oracle]

im lowkey becoming a big Pennsylvania fan

[stark coyote]

I regret buying all those DLCs

[stark coyote]

I hope dawg 😭

[sudden grotto]

You Will have to pay more by then lol

They Still didnt tell the release date

So

Imma wait half a year to get that shit

[stark coyote]

Damn, the pricing this time really hurt my wallet lmao

Im considering to bypass the pre order this time

We don't even get a bonus track

Even if we did, they will just do a new content pack for it 💀

[subtle elm]

wait we dont have a track as preorder bonus??? WHAT A SCAM

[stark coyote]

No as far as Ik

[sudden grotto]

Whats that?

[stark coyote]

At least in my experience, since NSB everytime u preorder a dlc you also get a bonus soundtrack since u pre ordered

NSB - Katyusha
BBA - Bella Ciao
AAT - Säkkijärven Polkka
GDM - The Ride of the Valkyries

[subtle elm]

all of them were so peak except maybe The Ride of the Valkyries, havent heard that one

[brittle dirge]

Guys someone hoi4

[stark coyote]

When they announced the dlcs I managed to guess the songs they were going to give

I had my doubts with Säkkijärven Polkka because I was expecting Njet Molotoff too

[subtle elm]

??

[brittle dirge]

What?

I just asked

[random delta]

the allies are cooked

[brittle dirge]

Someone wanna play?*

[subtle elm]

dont worry japan and germany somehow will go to war before even capitulating allies

[junior oyster]

hello my hoi4ers

[subtle elm]

check #historical-multiplayer or #alt-history-multiplayer for games

[random delta]

japan is at war with the allies rn

[junior oyster]

how are you hoi4ers

[sudden grotto]

No battotai...

[junior oyster]

i got questions from the start of the day

[stark coyote]

Ikr

Missed opportunity right there

[sudden grotto]

Heresy.

[stark coyote]

Blasphemy

[subtle elm]

what is your question?

[random delta]

also who said that I would just let that happen the Japanese aint got nothing on the great pizza empire

[warm palm]

if an enemy captures my airport with planes stationed there are the planes destroyed?

[junior oyster]

uhh

[ancient marsh]

more dlcs more mediocre content more money

[junior oyster]

im not ingame rn and i woke up so

i dont remembah

[ancient marsh]

you WILL do a forced monarchist path for nationalist china and you WILL like it

[junior oyster]

yeah uhh

[stark coyote]

Real

Last time I could still justify the price a bit, now it got out of hand 💀💀

[junior oyster]

if i wanted to refund the game

cant

its 4 hours now

and its HELLA addicting

[ancient marsh]

DLCs are actually just getting smaller which is really the problem in the price rising

[subtle elm]

hoi4 moment

this is the point of no return

[stark coyote]

My main complain is that we are getting practically the same amount of content than that last time

But significantly more expensive now

[sudden grotto]

How can you go monarchist when there Is manchukuo.

[junior oyster]

no step back

[daring tundra]

Nevermind that Gotterdammerung was massive

[junior oyster]

☭

[daring tundra]

Much bigger than early dlcs like waking the tiger

And comparable to No Step Back

[junior oyster]

next dlc is no step back

cuz im a COMMIE

[daring tundra]

Are you 14 or a ragebaiter?

[ancient marsh]

NSB: USSR, Baltics(3), Poland / Tank designer

BBA: Italy, Ethiopia, Switzerland, Aussa, East Africa Releasable trees (why did these even exist lol) / Plane designer

AAT: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland / International Market

GDR: Germany, Belgium, Hungary, Austria, Congo /
Special Projects

[sudden grotto]

"no penny back" dlc for the dudes Who bought man the guns the day before It got free

[junior oyster]

ragebaiter

[stark coyote]

Are we getting a new mechanic with the new dlc?

[sudden grotto]

Ye?

Naval

Or sum shit

[daring tundra]

This would have been true 6 months ago too

[sudden grotto]

Hq

Military hq

[ancient marsh]

Nothing major is coming to Macy

[ancient marsh]

That’s next dlc

The dlc they’ll outsource

[junior oyster]

uhh guys

[ancient marsh]

So prepare for it to be shit

[sudden grotto]

Then Just navy?

[junior oyster]

how do i play multiplayer

[ancient marsh]

Faction reworks

[sudden grotto]

Oh right

[ancient marsh]

Which I doubt they’ll lock behind a dlc

[sudden grotto]

But that should be in the base game too?

[ancient marsh]

but it is also paradox

[daring tundra]

I see them comparable? Also GD gave Germany more content than it is available to Soviets or Sweden.

And minor flavour to other nations, like revamping Luxembourg leaders and reworking Allied AI

[ancient marsh]

more content isn’t necessarily good content, evident by belgium and congo tbh

GDR’s golden child is germany and special projects for the feature

[stark coyote]

Also Austria is kinda mid

[ancient marsh]

in all honestly a lot of the gdr content is kinda ehhh

[stark coyote]

Only fun path is monarchist

[ancient marsh]

looking now without hype*

[stark coyote]

Same with Hungary

[daring tundra]

Iceland and Norway are bad and so is Latvia

[ancient marsh]

the democratic and socialist paths suck as per usual

[ancient marsh]

Latvia is alright
Norway is decent all around
Iceland is bad but it’s kind of intentionally bad

[junior oyster]

true austria is mid

[ancient marsh]

the point being they still got unique content

[junior oyster]

civil war speedrun

(when you start as tsarsdom bulgaria)

[ancient marsh]

austria just sucks outside of fascist monarchist and their military tree

[daring tundra]

Norway looked like a MTG focus tree

[ancient marsh]

is ts meant to be shade

because mtg was good

[stark coyote]

If this next one had had a rework of the USA, for me it would be worth it

[daring tundra]

The focus trees showed their age

[stark coyote]

But it doesn't for some reason

[ancient marsh]

Yeah idk why they think they can charge this much and not go with the co-op dlc idea

[daring tundra]

After seeing massive Sweden and Denmark focus trees, it looked like a step back

[ancient marsh]

Making it usa and japan major reworks

[stark coyote]

Initially I thought it would be like this

[silk fern]

how is oklahoma doing this

[hybrid galleon]

shenanigans

[stark coyote]

But surely they kept USA to justify another 2 dlcs 💀

[junior oyster]

magic

[ancient marsh]

literally just trying to bleed us dry

[stark coyote]

Paradox = Gaijin? 🤣

[ancient marsh]

they’ll cut support and finally make hoi5 after uk and usa prolly

[junior oyster]

noooo

[ancient marsh]

And of course they won’t make any new content

[junior oyster]

i bought hoi4 in the worst time

[ancient marsh]

They’ll just re-rework canada

And mexico

[hybrid galleon]

I know Paradox and Gaijin are the same company i just cant prove it

[stark coyote]

EU4 type shit, but at least they made a HUGEEEE dlc before finishing that project

[stark coyote]

Im starting to think in the same way dawg 😭😭

[daring tundra]

USA is next year' most certainly

[hybrid galleon]

atleast we dont have to pay $80 for a single aircraft

[ancient marsh]

only 20

[stark coyote]

For now 💀

[ancient marsh]

so generous paradox

[hybrid galleon]

there gonna rework USA i swear lol

[ancient marsh]

especially scummy are the

“nation packs”

[junior oyster]

i love how there is 93 dlcs of like

tank skins

[hybrid galleon]

skins that should've been in the game that we have to buy 😭

[stark coyote]

Atp the Next DLC will have:

USA - Mexico - Canada - Cuba

Some units packs

A future content pack for other SA countries and it'll cost 70 bucks 💀🤣

[junior oyster]

wont buy it bro

[ancient marsh]

they’re gonna be like $10 for one focus tree

[junior oyster]

SA, NA, AS and AF sucks

EU forever

🥶

[stark coyote]

I was so mad when they launched TOA before a middle east one

[ancient marsh]

they both sucked so it didn’t matter anyway

[hybrid galleon]

then when we got a middle east one it was god awful

[stark coyote]

Unfortunately

[ancient marsh]

paradox outsourcing their DLCs somehow always failing

every single time

[stark coyote]

NSB was a big Peak for me

[hybrid galleon]

ah yes a South America DLC only gives new focuses to 3 nations

[stark coyote]

AAT and BBA were also great imo

[ancient marsh]

NSB is still the only dlc that’s arguably worth full price

[stark coyote]

I was expecting content for all of them

[hybrid galleon]

weapons market my beloved

[hybrid galleon]

fr they could've done SO MUCH with Colombia

[stark coyote]

My beloved one

[stark coyote]

Also with Venezuela

[hybrid galleon]

i do think Tank designer should be in base game

[ancient marsh]

they obviously want to do more

[hybrid galleon]

fr

[ancient marsh]

but paradox forces release dates

[stark coyote]

They are leaving those for a Second SA content pack for just 20$ 💀

[ancient marsh]

evident by left spirit and focus icons on files

like GOE having an Anglo-Egyptian treaty icon

[hybrid galleon]

were getting a Romania rework i swear

also its abyssmal that it took so long for belgium to get a Focus Tree

[stark coyote]

This is me arguing for a new Spain / Yugoslavia focus tree

[junior oyster]

romania rework..

[junior oyster]

YUGOSLAVIA FOCUS TREE 🔥🔥

[ancient marsh]

only one of the “country packs” id buy is one for spain it seriously needs to be fixed

both for sending volunteers and playing as spain

[stark coyote]

I will be sooooo disappointed if they dont bring some kind of assymetrical warfare doctrine for a possible Yugoslavia dlc

[ancient marsh]

probably the most wasted potential for any country’s tree

[stark coyote]

I just like the civil war by itself

The focus tree is meh

[ancient marsh]

The civil war IS fun but it’s unintuitive to new players and it’s pretty linear

Because it’s pretty much the same goal as both until you civil war again or stay as your faction

Nationalist: take north rush to madrid then seize the whole south then wait/kill them

Republican: pin and rush every vp capping them in two weeks (now like 6+ months)

[junior oyster]

i love civil wars

[ancient marsh]

Doing anything but those two options is just actively hindering yourself short and long term

[stark coyote]

I spent more than 1000 hours until I decided to play Spain for that very reason

[ancient marsh]

Also the civil war prep is buns

[hybrid galleon]

when they do US rework can they PLEASE make the US civil war better

[junior oyster]

wait a minute

[hybrid galleon]

like make it more like the UK one

[junior oyster]

if you take all the troops to your side of bulgaria

during the commie-tsarsdom civil war

wont they

[hybrid galleon]

where you can build up support before launching it

[junior oyster]

surrender

cause they have no troops

[stark coyote]

You will still have to get vp tho

[junior oyster]

ehh yeah

but its just controlling the army

[stark coyote]

Odd, I never did the Bulgaria civil war

[junior oyster]

no

i never tried that

[hybrid galleon]

i try to avoid it

[junior oyster]

i did the civil war by uhh

making broad socialist decisions

and then forced an civil war

accidentally

i actually had 2 saves

fascist route and commie route

but i forgot it cause commie was funnier

[hybrid galleon]

real

i always accidentally start it

[stark coyote]

Oh damn

It's been like 2 years since my last Bulgaria run ngl

[junior oyster]

i love the balkans

also

how can you convert yugoslavia into commie

so i can do that uhh

yugoslavia-bulgaria focus

ill

figure it out

my relations with them are 65

[stark coyote]

Oh yeah, If im not wrong there's a focus that gives u a decision or something like that

Cant remember rn, sorry

[junior oyster]

i was struggling with the civil war

until someone told me to just capture sofia

(i got all of their cities so)

the victory was sweet

i had 32 saves

from each month

[sudden grotto]

Goe too-

[junior oyster]

BoB is worth it too

for balkan mains

[balmy quarry]

Bruh

The 50 dollar new dlc isn't THE dlc

[stark coyote]

We know

It's the exp pass

[balmy quarry]

Okay

[stark coyote]

But still expensive asf

[balmy quarry]

I saw you guys complaining way up there

Well bro

It's 3 dlcs

Each priced at 15

45

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/gulag-commuism-commusit-doge-gif-6430844717502519144

[balmy quarry]

It's 48 usd

[stark coyote]

Let's be honest, they made Czechs one out of nowhere when they could just added to the country pack or just forget about it

[sudden grotto]

No further complaining Will be accepted by
Commie dog

[stark coyote]

Same content as the last one, but more expensive

[balmy quarry]

It's funny that they do this with Stellaris too and noone bats an eye

[stark coyote]

Excuse me commi dog

[sudden grotto]

Next stop Will be the artic Sea.

[stark coyote]

Because we are in HOI4 server lmao

[sudden grotto]

Because they are rich

Rich, milionaire

[balmy quarry]

Obviously I'm saying the Stellaris community doesn't complain

[stark coyote]

How's the price for stellaris tho?

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-millionaire-bomboclat-rich-millionaire-millionaire-rich-gif-10627806320364804929

Bomboclat.

[balmy quarry]

Literally the same

If not more expensive actually

The current pass is like 55?

3 dlc and a species pack

Good content and would be worth to buy the pass

[sudden grotto]

Hoi4 Is fully of commies, so its obv gonna complain about the price

[junior oyster]

confirmed

https://tenor.com/view/kazotsky-kazotsky-kick-russia-ussr-soviet-union-gif-11875358067886435102

[stark coyote]

That sounds better ngl

[balmy quarry]

I have all the Stellaris dlc besides all the new stuff, I haven't played in a while so im not buying

[sudden grotto]

So you are betraying us now?

[sudden grotto]

Betraying hoi4 for stellaris.

[balmy quarry]

Nah it's fine it varies from game to game

[sudden grotto]

High treason.

[junior oyster]

dont join the space

[stark coyote]

My heart and will is FOR SUPER EARTH 🗣️🔥

[balmy quarry]

Played Stellaris before hoi

Hoi is so hard compared to Stellaris

[stark coyote]

Real?

[balmy quarry]

Stellaris is so easy bro

[stark coyote]

Maybe I should give a try to stellaris

[junior oyster]

really??

[sudden grotto]

Hd2. Even worse.

[balmy quarry]

Bigger number wins

[junior oyster]

hoi4 is easy ngl

[stark coyote]

RESPECT

[balmy quarry]

Not for me

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/off-to-gulag-send-cat-gif-11181718824893681217

[stark coyote]

Managed Democracy

[junior oyster]

i learned it in a day

🙂

[balmy quarry]

Hoi?

[junior oyster]

yup

[balmy quarry]

Probably had someone teaching you no?

[stark coyote]

CK3 type shit

[junior oyster]

instead of doing the tutorial

i just

realised everything on my own

[balmy quarry]

Ck3 was hard too but I picked it up after a bit

[junior oyster]

ehh yeah about some stuff

[balmy quarry]

Dude I can't there's so much shit with 0 context

[stark coyote]

For me the hardest one was HOI4 followed up by EU4

[junior oyster]

womp womp

[balmy quarry]

I had people telling me what to do but not telling me what it does or what it's for

Lmfao

[junior oyster]

only thing i cant manage is manpower and materials

[balmy quarry]

Nope I tried eu4 but holy moly

That game is hard asf too bro

[sudden grotto]

Me still not understanding vic3:

[junior oyster]

guys

[balmy quarry]

Uh in Stellaris terms you're too wide

[stark coyote]

Fr, I was doing a Teutonic Run and got clapped in a war against Hungary because Ottomans decided to attack me too

[junior oyster]

what is EU4 and VIC3

[sudden grotto]

🧢 its easier than hoi4

[stark coyote]

I was winning 😞

[balmy quarry]

I played it after I tried hoi for the first time

[stark coyote]

Hoi4 my beloved

[balmy quarry]

I tried a small kingdom and then the Byzantines

I got smashed on both

Went into never ending debt on the byzantine run

[sudden grotto]

Did you form the popular republic as ditschmarschen ( or whatever its called )

[stark coyote]

Usual 😭

[sudden grotto]

Byzantine as a begineer Is like jumping off a cliff

[balmy quarry]

Lmfao fr?

[stark coyote]

Yeah

[balmy quarry]

No idea what that is

[sudden grotto]

You Will get pegged by ottomans, obv

[balmy quarry]

I forgor

[junior oyster]

wait

byzantine?

[sudden grotto]

In eu4

[junior oyster]

WHAT IS EU4

europa universalis 4?

[sudden grotto]

Get out.

[balmy quarry]

I hate playing big factions in medieval games

[sudden grotto]

Ye

[junior oyster]

ahh

[balmy quarry]

I like the under dog type shit

Spain is my beloved

[junior oyster]

hoi4 cooler

[balmy quarry]

I love spain

[sudden grotto]

Branderburg Is a good begineer nation

[balmy quarry]

I'm down to try that if I ever pick it up again

[sudden grotto]

Forming Prussia Is the most satisfying thing

[balmy quarry]

That's the

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/prussia-eu4-europa-universalis-4-paradox-games-gif-16881506197479214271

[balmy quarry]

Uhm

Fractured Germany area yeah?

HreM

[sudden grotto]

Hmm?

[balmy quarry]

Her?*

[junior oyster]

bulgaria is the prussia of the balkans

[balmy quarry]

HRE***

[sudden grotto]

Hre?

[sudden grotto]

[balmy quarry]

Yuh

[sudden grotto]

[sudden grotto]

Ye

[balmy quarry]

Sorry I'm tired and I can't type

Idek how you even start to do that

[sudden grotto]

In eu4 ite even more fractured

[balmy quarry]

You ever played a game called knights of sovereign

[sudden grotto]

No?

[junior oyster]

muehehehe

[balmy quarry]

Ooo

Very fun game

It's like ck3 and total war

Combined

[sudden grotto]

I am a loyal paradox peasant

[balmy quarry]

You have the option to fight your own battles

Game is 20 bucks I think

Actually 45 but it's on sale rn for 15

My b

I can't wait for the day paradox adds interactive surface battles for the planets

And it's just gonna be hoi

Ugh

Amazing

For Stellaris *

[sudden grotto]

We Will get hoi5 before gta6

[balmy quarry]

Uh

[junior oyster]

nope

[balmy quarry]

Within now and next year?

[sudden grotto]

Who knows

Maybe they'll suddenly announce It tmrw

[junior oyster]

NO

PLEASE

[sudden grotto]

At the good price of 80€

[balmy quarry]

Naur they wouldn't do that

Regarding the price

I see it being 50 at most

[sudden grotto]

Id eu5 Is 60 i doubt It Will be 50

[balmy quarry]

Oh

Damn really?

[sudden grotto]

Its on steam lol

[balmy quarry]

I got mine for free

On epic

[sudden grotto]

Me too

[balmy quarry]

Ayy

[sudden grotto]

Good times the covid ones

Free games every day

[balmy quarry]

Fr fr

Paradox is kinda goated huh

[sudden grotto]

I got gta5 too

[balmy quarry]

Same

But I already had it on steam

😭

[sudden grotto]

F

[hybrid galleon]

Can’t wait to use this block against Germany

[lean oasis]

ape

[junior oyster]

fat albert

[hybrid galleon]

I’m doing limited intervention so it’s gonna be fun

[hybrid galleon]

Gotta represent the king

[junior oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-ai-generated-king-von-anti-piracy-screen-gif-13459544680774853932

[hybrid galleon]

Alright buddy

[junior oyster]

jonkler the II

[hybrid galleon]

This is my queue to sleep

[misty fossil]

you...

um

you are the united states of america and you're using your industrial prowess on... 36w infantry?

your industry is more than capable of churning out an entire army group of 36w tanks and amtracs...?

what are you doing brother

dont tell me ur gonna launch a single naval invasion into dunkirk with no air support and get your entire army destroyed down to the last man

[balmy quarry]

Nice manpower

[misty fossil]

(yes i did that when i had 10 hours into hoi4)

[rose prawn]

yo question

what do u call yogurt at bulgaria

[junior oyster]

kiselo mlyako

кисело мляко

[rose prawn]

so you dont add "greek" at the beginning?

[junior oyster]

no?

why would we

[dense axle]

my subs just sunk an italian battleship

[rose prawn]

well a lot of nations at western europe and north america does that

[dense axle]

how is a battleship so trash that subs can sink it?

[silk fern]

holy shit bill

[junior oyster]

what

the

hoi4 time

UH OH