hoi4-general

[flat gazelle]

they should help me with the italians

[slim nexus]

Yeah, as germany you just make the tank design without the module youre waiting to get, which would usualyl be the armanment so you slap on the cheapest gun which is only 0.5

[rustic furnace]

saying "in the big 25" in the big 25 ✌️

[flat gazelle]

i might go after germany first tho

and steal their navy

they got stuck in their focus tree so should be weak

[haughty basalt]

skill vs spam

[flat gazelle]

bro kill me

how can they just steal my ally

aaaaand another austria run over

im never getting the achievement

[gilded vessel]

why is italy in a faction with france?

[icy crescent]

It is a non-historic game.

Could be a joint Stresa-Front.

[rustic furnace]

It is a joint stresa-front

Look at the name of the faction

[icy crescent]

I am more impressed that Germany still didn't decide what to do.

Uncertain Future wrecks their stability, probably.

[rustic furnace]

That happens way to much

I main non hist, and see germany get stuck once every 6 games

[icy crescent]

Nvm, it is still somewhat early.
Because Spanish Civil War. My bad.

[rustic furnace]

Its pretty annoying

[craggy trail]

🐴

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-twilight-sparkle-microwave-gif-13289092693693133434

[flat gazelle]

once every 6 games?

i've actually only seen them do something like 3 times at most

[rustic furnace]

Lucky you

[flat gazelle]

i've played almost 90hours every since returning a few weeks ago

and i actually think it was less than 10 times

[rustic furnace]

Like I said lucky you

It happening at all is still to much

[misty fossil]

skull for the skull throne or whatever

[soft shale]

WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅

[gray berry]

metric for mile

[soft shale]

but seriously

is there a mod that makes the leader potraits be 2 like darkest hour

[gray berry]

dunno

[rustic furnace]

I dont think so

[soft shale]

even though its a little tiny feature it makes the game way cooler

[icy crescent]

There is no "reward" when you successfully refuse Germany's Rheinland.
Outside of no war that is.
-150 Political Power Early Game hurts.

[gray berry]

yes, but that early stage Germany has few soldiers

[soft shale]

yea since ur also france and pp is very low

[icy crescent]

Yeah. :/

[gray berry]

shitty low

[icy crescent]

Disjoined Gouverment -0.8.

[rancid bramble]

hey guys

should i play the game rn or wait til the 30?

[slim nexus]

?

The 30?

[icy crescent]

Until then HOI5 is probably released.
Hopefully with a better engine.

[gray berry]

buy now

[slim nexus]

What does he mean by the 30

[sudden grotto]

No engine Is Better than Clausewitz

[sudden grotto]

The 30

Obv

[slim nexus]

And what does that mean

[icy crescent]

2020-30.
The 30ies.
The decade.

[slim nexus]

2030?

[rustic furnace]

The 30 duh

[sudden grotto]

Imagine not knowing the 30

[slim nexus]

Yo thats some insane patience

I commend it

[rocky marlin]

And people say Italy is bad. If this not cooking. Idk what it is

[gray berry]

the 30s..., 3030-3039

[rustic furnace]

Italy is op

And my fav nation to play

[slim nexus]

Idk about op brotein shake

[gray berry]

Italy is fun

[rustic furnace]

Its op in my eyes

[drifting tulip]

Hello everyone I just joined this server.

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[rocky marlin]

They are but i ignor the quests wicth should make me shit in the bag but i am not

[rustic furnace]

Jarvis cook this guy in a pot of water

[rocky marlin]

They are if you know what your doing

[slim nexus]

Boiling at that

[rocky marlin]

sub

[untold sphinx]

I hate italy

Its not op

[rustic furnace]

Ok

[craggy trail]

Welcome!

[slim nexus]

One thing that it most definitely isnt is op

[icy crescent]

No Africa?

[drifting tulip]

Hem...
What?

[rocky marlin]

They are good max. They can be op but only if you know what your doing

[rustic furnace]

Or microwave take your pick

[craggy trail]

micro wa ve

[rocky marlin]

I have these two

and the puppet helps out

[drifting tulip]

In that case I prefer the pot of water.

[rustic furnace]

I forgot about that video lmao

[icy crescent]

Alright.

Just small.

[rustic furnace]

alright

Btw you are being boiled with france so enjoy

[meager valley]

Haven’t really tried Ethiopia since it came out. Is it fun in 2025?

[rocky marlin]

DAMN

[icy crescent]

I mean, it debuffs Germany.
And Hungary is taking Austria.
Sooo no Danzig or war in 39.

Half a year more preperation ain't too bad.

[rocky marlin]

That'a a lot of red

[craggy trail]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3091432977

[rocky marlin]

How?

[rustic furnace]

Soon we will have a hoi4 mod for everything

[rocky marlin]

Or in what way?

[crude dragon]

i am torn between buying aat and gotterdammerung

i want to play commie germany, hungary and austria
but aat adds many things such as MIO and special forces doctrines

[craggy trail]

There's technically 2 star wars mods for hoi4
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2477222513

[gray berry]

buy it all 😉

[rustic furnace]

I just want to say, the british ai might be the smartest thing in the game

They misplaced the navy and allowed this to happen

[serene token]

There should be a Helldivers mod for this game.

[gray berry]

oh AI....

[rustic furnace]

Im sure someones already making it

[meager valley]

Whenever I try that mod just spam crashes

[gray berry]

got better over the years but still AI

[rustic furnace]

Well ofc

[meager valley]

Jk Palpatine gamble crashes

Not vallachord

[rustic furnace]

The hoi4 ai is supposed to be terrible

[craggy trail]

Palpatine's gamble is an older mod

[idle cradle]

applejack is the best

[rustic furnace]

Cool

[icy crescent]

What you mean "how?"
Playing on non-his.

[idle cradle]

screw twighlight sparkle

[gray berry]

all AI is, havent seen any good anywhere

[rustic furnace]

I personally prefer Twilight

[idle cradle]

you should change pfp or leave

i don't care, actually

[rustic furnace]

Thats not friendship lmao

[craggy trail]

🐴

[idle cradle]

shit

you may be right

[turbid canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-react-horse-horse-reaction-reaction-gif-27025262

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-twilight-sparkle-microwave-gif-13289092693693133434

[rocky marlin]

But how do you get that on Non historical?

What did you do?

[serene token]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-typing-bug-scout-bug-gif-13311446608745300663

[gray berry]

ideally it is as good as a good chess computer... can be quite good though

[rocky marlin]

You know a lot abot friend ship.

[icy crescent]

I said no to Rheinland.
And got lucky.
That's it.

[rocky marlin]

I still don't understand

I am slow as f

[icy crescent]

What is not to understand?

[gray berry]

fiendship costs a lot pp

[icy crescent]

I play France.
I get the event that Germany wants to Rheinland.
I said no.
They said "ok" with sad face.
They get debuff.
That's it.

[rocky marlin]

a fellow "Spain not Spaining here"

[fair horizon]

EaW player spotted

[rocky marlin]

Oh

[rustic furnace]

Maybe

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[icy crescent]

What else did you thought? xd

[rustic furnace]

This might be a shock, I love EaW. But still prefer to play normal hoi4.

[pearl flume]

lol

[craggy trail]

🐴

[rocky marlin]

I thought you did something else. Like something else other than that. + how did you make the ai accept. Most of the time they have the balls to say Nuh uh we are taking that

Like even on non historical

[rocky marlin]

Btw i don't wanna learn about Friendship and Magic.

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/therapy-therapy-horz-head-pats-twidash-gif-18562876

[icy crescent]

Nah, it's just RNG.
I think I got lucky with a 20% chance or whatever Rheinland was.

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-067-67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-gif-13940852437921483111

[rustic furnace]

yes 67

[chilly cipher]

there is a chance that france could get a monarchy and inherit a bourbonist spanish monarch which would then forcefully annex all of france into spain

[crude dragon]

if i see that aat has a very good discount, i might buy it first

[rocky marlin]

Wow

[crude dragon]

i need that buff to special forces

[rocky marlin]

Spian is communist

and Join the commintern.

[slim nexus]

Anyway

[rocky marlin]

On Historical Btw

[slim nexus]

Hows everyones saturday

[rocky marlin]

Good

[rustic furnace]

Good

Need more 67

[rocky marlin]

Oh

[rocky marlin]

No

[rustic furnace]

Yes

lets get some 67 up in here

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-namek-mad-angry-kakarot-gif-4697742235674074957

[rustic furnace]

Its either 67 or ponies

[rocky marlin]

You dear to pat me?

[rustic furnace]

Pick 1

[rocky marlin]

Ponies

[rustic furnace]

Your choice

[rocky marlin]

They are not brain rot

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/bWBSx.gif

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

Who gave you premison?

[rustic furnace]

I did mb

[icy crescent]

The absence of a restraining order.

[rustic furnace]

Ok but what if he files one

[icy crescent]

Then I am no allowed.

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086751

[rocky marlin]

Avarge Germany player:

[rustic furnace]

Germany sucks

Austria better

frfr

[crude dragon]

apparently gotterdammerung has only 20% as its best discount

[rocky marlin]

I am trying to make the Uslan or what ever the aciment name

And i am fumbeling

[crude dragon]

so i either buy it now or buy it the next sale

[ancient owl]

@timber vale yo

[rocky marlin]

Oh hell nah

Go back to pizza tower

and don't chagce me when i lose my time

[crude dragon]

gonna steal this gif

[fierce mist]

COME ON

[rocky marlin]

What is the problem?

Your with the germans?

[fierce mist]

Im learning navy

How the f am i supposed to understand this

[rocky marlin]

I don't do navil

[crystal marsh]

did it 🔥

[rocky marlin]

So i don't care about it

[rocky marlin]

W

[rocky marlin]

But you with Germany?

[fierce mist]

Nah im cooked

[rocky marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/stank-dog-smells-gif-25356900

[icy crescent]

Let's gooo.

[fierce mist]

THATS NOT THE DAM POINT

THE DAM POINT IS LEARNING NAVY

[icy crescent]

Big green.

[fierce mist]

Its 160 ships against 300

like wtf

[rocky marlin]

that is a point

[crystal marsh]

achievement

[rocky marlin]

You can do better with out Germany

[rocky marlin]

W

[icy crescent]

Not the second one.
Own entire Japan too.

[fierce mist]

your not braining are you

Im learning navy smart ass

couldnt care less about how the game goes

only navy

[rocky marlin]

i still didn't got the achievement when italy invades Autria

What am i doing wrong?

[crystal marsh]

thats my aim

[rocky marlin]

Fact is fact

[rocky marlin]

And i don't

[fierce mist]

i think thats a win

[rocky marlin]

Yes

You sinked them ships

You did more than i do

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-dance-dancing-party-good-job-gif-23721993

[rustic furnace]

Thats a pretty good battle

[slim nexus]

Yooo

I got a question Do u guys think HOI4 players could win a war irl?

[rustic furnace]

Especially considering how cheap destroyers are and how the ones of yours that did sink are most likely your starting ones

[rustic furnace]

no

[slim nexus]

🤣

[crude dragon]

the first step is to log off hoi4 so no

[rocky marlin]

Avarge Soviet play as Italy:

[drifting relic]

What have I got myself into , I am literally trying to learn this game like a school kid

It's gonna be super fun 🫡

[crude dragon]

is that luxembourg

lol

[fierce mist]

could be ive made maybe 30-40 new destroyers thats better so idk

[rustic furnace]

yes

Thats luxembourg 2

The og has been chilling

[rocky marlin]

Btw the stats i am going against Germany:

Who is probaly maxed out

And we are winning

[fierce mist]

nah my marines suck

[pearl flume]

Love when I got supply but don't have it at the same time

[rustic furnace]

activate windows 💔

[fierce mist]

LALALA

[rocky marlin]

I will not pay

Or what ever they want

[rocky marlin]

W

What do you think of my? @fierce mist

Hungary gets the land Idk why

[rustic furnace]

There is always linux

[astral forum]

God I love France ai (democratic ai in general)
Fighting me just on and on and on in peace conferences (I'm Soviets) just to keep one tile of the German Reich independent AS FASCISTS and one tile as a Democratic INDEPENDENT nation
Lmao forgot to download player led peace conferences

[fierce mist]

Well your taking land but your amry stats seems weird

[rustic furnace]

Toolpack my beloved

[fierce mist]

seems like all your units has not full equipment and your using light tanks and shit

[ruby rover]

anyone already tested the new dlc?

[rocky marlin]

And we are still wining

[rocky marlin]

Bella the Wolf fan?

[astral forum]

Nah, Texas from Arknights :P

[rocky marlin]

Oh my bad than

Sorry g

Lesson: Always go Italy with "Italy the first" path

[rocky marlin]

7/10

[rustic furnace]

Im ignoring the setup W bird

That bird is a 10/10 the setup 4/10

[rocky marlin]

The set is 7/10

[gaunt thorn]

why does germany have NO resources bro 💔✌️

[strong belfry]

is the new dlc released guys?

[slim nexus]

wth

[rocky marlin]

I am wining

That's what is happening

[crude dragon]

no

[rustic furnace]

no

[rocky marlin]

But yes it's hell

[rustic furnace]

November 20th

[slim nexus]

Dam hungary still alive

[rocky marlin]

Here @slim nexus. Hell

[rocky marlin]

Romania got cooked by us

[slim nexus]

W what difficulty u on

[rustic furnace]

Using the tank guy on infantry 💔 💔 💔 🥀 🥀 🥀

[long breach]

guys somebody wanna 2v2 with mod commanders competetive

[rocky marlin]

Normal but Iron man mode

(Note:i fumble on Normal mode as well so this is a huge W for me"

[rocky marlin]

And?

WE are still winning

[slim nexus]

we got to practice some how

[rustic furnace]

That gives me pain

Especially as an italy main

[rocky marlin]

Don't care

There is no firendship where i am playing

just loyalty

https://tenor.com/view/big-brains-sayan-cell-gif-15249118

[fallen vigil]

which one is the facist option?

[rocky marlin]

The right one

[fallen vigil]

thanks

[finite plume]

I finished up Haiti 🔥

[rustic furnace]

Thats one of the elements of harmony so it is friendship. But nice try

[rustic furnace]

Nice 🔥

[rocky marlin]

Got damn it

[finite plume]

Hey Dempsey

[rustic furnace]

Hello

[rocky marlin]

Nice pfp

[marsh ravine]

Genuinely does not matter

[finite plume]

World Conquest as one of the Virgin Islands

[marsh ravine]

He has good attack its fine

[finite plume]

🗿

[rustic furnace]

Yeah I know

[finite plume]

Thx

[rustic furnace]

He gives more attack to tanks than infantry

So it does matter if you are using tanks

[untold sphinx]

what makes a country more likely to accept a claim?

[marsh ravine]

If they r using tanks they have another guy with harsh leader who they csn grind to get better tank stats

[untold sphinx]

non agression pact + good opinion and number of divisions?

[marsh ravine]

But they may also just not have tanks

[finite plume]

I love making completely useless island provinces

[rustic furnace]

Thats not annoying

[finite plume]

Definitely not

[rustic furnace]

You should put a vp there thats required to cap them lmao

[broken sky]

the balkanic reich is the strongest faction in southern europe

[broken sky]

ooooh nice

[finite plume]

The Lesser Antilles has no straits

[spare laurel]

That is so Satisfying to see

[finite plume]

Naval invasion fun

😊

[rustic furnace]

[finite plume]

Can't cause literally no one lives on that island lmao

[rustic furnace]

Damn that sucks

[finite plume]

Actually nvm there's like some small villages

:)

[rustic furnace]

It would be funny though

DO it

That would be so funny

"Why arent they capitulating" Rage intensifies

[finite plume]

+100% Surrender limit

Make the island impassable too lmao

[rocky marlin]

Can i get a W?

[rustic furnace]

Show losses

I must see casualties

[finite plume]

Hehehe

[rocky marlin]

But it's a W as Italy right?

[rustic furnace]

yes

[rocky marlin]

Yipe 😄

[finite plume]

What's Italy?

[rocky marlin]

DAMN

https://tenor.com/view/great-googly-moogly-major-monogram-phineas-and-ferb-gif-23431587

[rustic furnace]

How many hours you got

[finite plume]

My Italy looks a bit weird...

[rocky marlin]

The soft underbelly of europe in our time line

[rustic furnace]

Thats awesome

That name is dope

[finite plume]

It's Malta lmao

[rocky marlin]

406 hours

[finite plume]

Their Fascist name

[rustic furnace]

Still dope

[rocky marlin]

WHAT HAPPEND?!

[rustic furnace]

Yeah thats a good italy game for your skill level

[finite plume]

Yes

[rocky marlin]

And for youM

*?

[rustic furnace]

1800 hours

[rocky marlin]

DAMN

[finite plume]

How Vanilla players see uncolonized mode:

[rustic furnace]

would be higher if I was a more consistent player from 2022 to 2023

[finite plume]

CAPITALS

NEED

MORE

[rocky marlin]

The Allies are corny

They Only landed now🥀

[rocky marlin]

Oh damn

[finite plume]

Be nice

They're trying their best

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-allies-fat-guys-dancing-gif-23889973

[rocky marlin]

Me and the Communist btw

[rustic furnace]

I am the allies now

The uk misplaced the navy and got naval invaded 💔

[rocky marlin]

Never mind i take it back ma'am. They aren't corny

[finite plume]

Non-historical I assume?

[rustic furnace]

Indeed

I am a non hist main after all

[rocky marlin]

My is Historical

[broken sky]

nice, lol

[rocky marlin]

Thanks

[shy bloom]

Damn that was easy

[finite plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1355324979704496128/1356883044576923730/togif.gif

[broken sky]

wait, how'd you get most of the balkans to your side?

and austria, too

did you do the guarantee austria tree?

[rocky marlin]

Vector

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-jamss-doaxes-staring-when-you-know-gif-10152841660313287334

[rocky marlin]

What the f is wrong with you?

[rocky marlin]

I mean

[rocky marlin]

Why do you want this?

https://tenor.com/view/goku-namek-mad-angry-kakarot-gif-4697742235674074957

[rustic furnace]

67 67 67 67

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-16369166454621395215

[broken sky]

dawmn what mod is that

[fair horizon]

neigh

[rustic furnace]

What mod?

[worn coral]

soviet union getting clapped by the axis

[rustic furnace]

Thats not as bad as the soviets being clapped by the austrians

[rocky marlin]

German is cooked

I like this

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-mgr-peak-clapping-gif-2290004513522355791

[rustic furnace]

your units arent looking all that healthy

Like at most I see is 85% strength

[finite plume]

Haiti doesn't surrender till you take the capital

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-gif-3226445978144001245

[rustic furnace]

Most being at like 20%

[fair horizon]

isnt that their only victory point?

[finite plume]

I added more

[uneven portal]

delete half ur units bro

[fair horizon]

bro has no guns

[uneven portal]

u have 10000 men in a division and 12 of them have guns

[finite plume]

Italy moment

[uneven portal]

3 of the 12 have first aid kits

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

[uneven portal]

and u have half an artillery

[rustic furnace]

Gun, who needs guns where we are going

[uneven portal]

u literally have the base of the artillery

just one half of it

[rocky marlin]

No

[rustic furnace]

Real men fight with their fists

Not gun

[rocky marlin]

I am still wining

[rocky marlin]

That's right

[fair horizon]

not for long you aint

[uneven portal]

lmao

bro if his allies weren't there

💔💔

[fair horizon]

where did half my divisions go? he asks as they run out of guns and go poof

[uneven portal]

a single Yugoslavian division is more armed than ur whole army

[fair horizon]

lore accurate mussolini

[rustic furnace]

Pretty much

[uneven portal]

this guy somehow managed to play worse than the ai

when the ai is already shit premium

[icy crescent]

Nice, nice.

[fair horizon]

nah hes still better than the italy ai

[broken sky]

they dont got the french mentality unlike their former masters bruh

[uneven portal]

Italy ai actually gives their men guns

[fair horizon]

italy ai when a single naval invasion:

[uneven portal]

this guy has reinforcement priority on low and training priority on high

[worn coral]

dude

i encircled 100 soviet divisions

[rustic furnace]

Indeed they do

[uneven portal]

cute cat

[worn coral]

and killed them all

[rustic furnace]

Nice

[uneven portal]

hey that's 2k deficit

this guy probably has a deficit of 90000

[worn coral]

im gonna slime the soviets

[rocky marlin]

I am finaly done

[worn coral]

and then take care of the allies

[rocky marlin]

i am making the peace deal

[rustic furnace]

True

[uneven portal]

2k is actually really good

[fair horizon]

is that a unicorn horn for a support company? and why do your mechanized have a star?

[rustic furnace]

Thats 2k deficit with 10 units and none of them fighting

[rustic furnace]

Magic

[uneven portal]

uh

[rustic furnace]

Magic mechanized

[uneven portal]

that's actually really bad

[rustic furnace]

I think

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War's Magical mechanized infantry battalion with mage support company

[uneven portal]

what

brother speak discordian

[fair horizon]

the sentence to kill a medieval peasant

[uneven portal]

I don't speak my little pony

[rustic furnace]

You should

[uneven portal]

I sing the intro but that's about it

[rustic furnace]

[uneven portal]

too hard

[rustic furnace]

Its not that hard

Just need to watch from season 1 episode 1 to season 9 episode 26

[craggy trail]

Top 9 most popular mods for Alternate History filter

[uneven portal]

yeah no

wait

what if

eaw adds

pony Hitler

[rustic furnace]

There is bird mussolini

[uneven portal]

really high quality 2 model there bro

it's uh

as high quality as anything made by china

[lyric shell]

...

my country...

[uneven portal]

oh

hey ur a mix of high-quality and wannabe high-quality

[lyric shell]

...

lol

[rustic furnace]

@grok explain this in pop terms

[boreal fulcrum]

this battle will be legendary

[fair horizon]

what is grok?

[uneven portal]

bro they should add Clyde ai back

[rustic furnace]

Twitters ai

[rocky marlin]

The peacedeal:

Is it good or bad?

[rustic furnace]

Its terrible

And most use it to explain some of the easiest to understand things

[fair horizon]

bro why didnt you take anything?

[fair horizon]

🥀

[serene token]

Did you puppet a few countries?

[rocky marlin]

Bruh i will not annex all of Vicy france

[fair horizon]

FREE

LAND

[uneven portal]

who the hell fed Austria Kim Jung Un's plate

[rocky marlin]

And i only wanted the claimed one

[uneven portal]

Austria is FAT

[rocky marlin]

Me

[rocky marlin]

And They deserved it

[uneven portal]

hell no they didn't bro

[serene token]

Just like Tony's mother, after eating at the buffet.

[uneven portal]

who's tony

[rocky marlin]

They did. They were my puppet they helped out

[uneven portal]

I bet

[serene token]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[uneven portal]

sorry im slow

[rocky marlin]

The alliens now

We cooked

[uneven portal]

im diagnosed with slow syndrome

[rocky marlin]

Now question. How would the cold war look now?

How would it go?

[uneven portal]

yeah ur ass got scammed ;rofl; ;rofl;

[rocky marlin]

Heh

[patent thistle]

gotta love the argentine tree that can do shit like this

[fair horizon]

So can brazil chile and iirc uruguay and paraguay can do that

[patent thistle]

NO THIS ISNT THE PURCHASE MOD THIS TIME

[uneven portal]

Britain would be proud

[patent thistle]

ye but argentina has a bigger starting fleet

[uneven portal]

how does Paraguay do that

[fair horizon]

its south america's fleet

[uneven portal]

they're landlocked no

[rocky marlin]

.

[rocky marlin]

.

[fair horizon]

they have the tree iirc

[uneven portal]

oh

ok sorry slow syndrome kicked in again

[fair horizon]

happens to the best of us \

[rocky marlin]

I am slow but not this slow

[craggy trail]

This was pre Arms against tyranny @rustic furnace

[uneven portal]

you'll understand one day

[fair horizon]

if it was they would be named

[uneven portal]

lowk she looks hot

[fair horizon]

why aint you got cool looking generals? smh

[rustic furnace]

[patent thistle]

although i do feel like buying the akagi and kaga (i still keep the mod active even if i am not using it actively)

[fair horizon]

the accuser has become the accused

[spare laurel]

wtf

[patent thistle]

hey i want only your aproval in that case for my fleet

[uneven portal]

eaw is overrated

[patent thistle]

i can also easily just buy some american carriers

[fair horizon]

shame the usa doesnt have the langley PARADOX

[craggy trail]

Pretty old content

[night lintel]

yet it has better optimization than vanilla hoi4

[fair horizon]

paradox you should let australia buy the langley that would be so cool

oh wait i remembered paradox hates australia 🥀

[night lintel]

australia more like japan

[patent thistle]

they were cheaper so easy

[fair horizon]

cheaper? y tho

[rustic furnace]

Its only overrated to those who hate ponies

[patent thistle]

dont ask me, its the AIs decision to make there price and it is almost always diffrent

[fair horizon]

paradox pls 🥺

look at her

[patent thistle]

why are you so DESPERATE for the langley-

[fair horizon]

because if they can give garbage carriers to other nations why cant i have the langley

[spare laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/f14-tomcat-fighter-wing-flapping-wings-gif-27700408

[patent thistle]

you are talking about the seaplane tenders they plan to add?

[fair horizon]

thats an aircraft carrier and i refuse to hear anything else about it

look at it next to the saratoga

[patent thistle]

the main diffrence is that they didnt have any catapults and couldnt have planes landing back on the carrier due to no arresting wire meaning it was forced to only use sea planes

[gritty gyro]

So Im no good at combat

Is there a mod that removes combat

And makes the game solely about politics

[rustic furnace]

no

[gritty gyro]

Or like make the AI make combat decisions fully

[patent thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2936449085

[rustic furnace]

hoi4 isnt about politics lol

[tiny iris]

I refunded BBA because I am pretty sure its gonna get integraterd into the base game. Or atleast the designer which I bough it for.

[gritty gyro]

I just lost to japan as the us in combat which makes no sense

[rustic furnace]

This is peak

[rustic furnace]

Sounds like a skill issue just git gud

[gritty gyro]

It literally is about politics

[patent thistle]

i just hope you can play chess @gritty gyro

[rustic furnace]

Its not

[gritty gyro]

Its an unnecessary part of the game to me

[rustic furnace]

Hoi4 is a war game

[gritty gyro]

I want politics focus

Not war

[rustic furnace]

The politics comes second

[fair horizon]

they didnt need catapults they were using ww1 prop planes

[patent thistle]

then dont play hoi4

[rustic furnace]

Go play victoria then

[gritty gyro]

Let my generals figure out war while I figure out politics and subversive stuff

[patent thistle]

again they couldnt land back on the carrier due to the missing aresting wire

[rustic furnace]

Doesnt exist sorry

[gritty gyro]

I only have HOI4

[wind swift]

Lmaoo fr

[rustic furnace]

Hoi4 is a war game

[gritty gyro]

Seems dumb

[rustic furnace]

Its not

[gritty gyro]

No Its a politics game

[wind swift]

Hoi4 is a map game with lots of buttons

[rustic furnace]

The hearts of iron franchise has always been a war game

[tiny iris]

Its more of a logistics simulator get me? Its quite different from other strategy games where its like you place your troops then your opponent moves his troops then you reinforce and attack. HOI4 has a fully fledged out supply system that many strategy games don't have.

[gritty gyro]

The point of HOI4 is politics not war

[wind swift]

War is politics

[rustic furnace]

Its war my guy

Its 90% war

[fair horizon]

they could

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[rustic furnace]

Why do you thing the politics is just button wait 70 days and it does something

[gritty gyro]

Its 90% political manipulation

[rustic furnace]

I think you might just have a skill issue

Learn the way to war

Thats what hoi4 is about

[wind swift]

"Fifa is not a Futbol game, its a sports game" lol

[empty wren]

Should I get By Blood Alone, Against All Tyranny, or Gotterdamurng?

[gritty gyro]

I once won using only politics

Its a politics game, war comes second

[rustic furnace]

How exactly

[gritty gyro]

Thats why war is barely fleshed out

[fair horizon]

it was more of a limit of the planes is the issue, plus you can launch jets off the same carrier you can launch early planes off of

let me have my damn langley

[wind swift]

I think ur feeding a troll

[gritty gyro]

Literally playing hoi4 rn

Not a troll

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-baiter-ragebaiter-semij1-hello-rage-baiter-gif-7038212996302592299

[patent thistle]

i love the fact all of you are letting yourself get ragebaited

[wind swift]

Ur trolling big bro

[rustic furnace]

Ragebaiting is crazy 🥀

A ragebaiter with a major skill issue 💔

[gritty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[wind swift]

Australia is the coolest country in Europe

[rustic furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1410081526124908766/1411922979775975434/petpet.gif

[fair horizon]

australia-hungarian empire

[serene token]

The tank in your pfp is not a good tank.

[gritty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-zomboid-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24597347

[wind swift]

Lol, glorious mate

[rustic furnace]

Just git gud and learn how to war in hoi4

[gritty gyro]

Its not even a good war game

Just couped japan anyways

[wind swift]

I'm Hungary for Turkey because I don't like meat w too much Greece

[rustic furnace]

[wind swift]

These arent war stats theyre political metrics. Ok!?

[rustic furnace]

Oh i see

He has 74 hours

I get it now

[wind swift]

They're not dead, theyre just ex-subjects

[rustic furnace]

Exactly

[wind swift]

These arent tanks, theyre political delivery systems

Im over doing it

Ive gone too far

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[wind swift]

Back to politicsing

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spongebob-walking-away-walk-gif-24993317

[supple kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588769

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-nah-gif-17789673818039441753

[wind swift]

One Piece! My favorite Pokémon show!

[supple kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/204962483499171840/1417594202417664152/Frogmoh.gif

[wind swift]

I have a very serious question about hoi4

Its embarassing tho

[rustic furnace]

What is it

[wind swift]

So dont be mean

[rustic furnace]

[wind swift]

When I battle plan

My arrows are always skinny

Even when I do a FM plan

But YouTube have these big fat Chad arrows

[tiny iris]

I am genuinly afraid of buying a new DLC cuz I fear it'll be integrated into the base game and then my money is gone.

[wind swift]

Just subscribe and submit to the machine

[supple kettle]

then dont buy anything and wait years ....

[tiny iris]

I refunded BBA cuz ISP said it might get added.

[wind swift]

A bit rash perhaps

[supple kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[wind swift]

I just buy the pass for 3 months every 2 yrs or so

Great deal

Another cool strategy is to just go i to crippling CC debt and say Yolo

https://tenor.com/view/money-make-it-rain-rain-guap-dollar-gif-7391084

[fair horizon]

same type of situation as not going to see a movie because it might come on a streaming service

[fair horizon]

sure you can wait but also you could enjoy it now

[tiny iris]

You still pay for the streaming service.

[fair horizon]

if you cant get $15 worth of enjoyment out of a dlc dont buy it ig 🤷

[gritty gyro]

No

Politics is the only real way to play hoi4 imo

[finite plume]

I made Hispaniola more accurate borders cause I'm a Masochist

[rustic furnace]

Maybe for someone with 74 hours

Learn combat and win

[gritty gyro]

Well thats how wars are fought

[rustic furnace]

Go play politics in mp

[gritty gyro]

And being the leader of a nation, I rather have a toggle that makes my generals fight for me

[worn coral]

beautiful

[finite plume]

Play Rise of Nations roblox then lmao

[rustic furnace]

Will never exist btw

[fair horizon]

clicker heros exists

[gritty gyro]

If I want a war game, I would play stuff like C&C

[rustic furnace]

Yeah like hoi4

[finite plume]

This is a Strategy game 🥀

[rustic furnace]

Hoi4 is a war strategy game

[gritty gyro]

HOI4 is a RTS politics focused game

[rustic furnace]

Victoria is more politics than hoi4

[rustic furnace]

Its a grandstrategy

Its not democracy 4 my guy

[finite plume]

It's political cause it has politics in it?

In that case BO2 is a political game

[gritty gyro]

Which would be politics

[split bane]

If I want a war game, he says while playing a war game...

[rustic furnace]

Guys dont fall for the ragebait

He is a new player with 74 hours and skill issue

He just trying to ragebait

[scenic spade]

hey

[finite plume]

Hey Dempsey

[scenic spade]

i have both of those things

[gritty gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/clippy-microsoft-office-word-publisher-gif-5630386

[scenic spade]

the only thing i can do is pin attacks

[rustic furnace]

Are you ragebaiting?

[finite plume]

Should I make these 2 islands in the Caymans 1 or 2 provinces

[gritty gyro]

Not ragebait

[rustic furnace]

2

[gritty gyro]

That is how I play

[rustic furnace]

Make them 2

Its the evil thing to do

[gritty gyro]

And thats how most people play

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-scared-concerned-gif-7359919428601365366

[gritty gyro]

Its not a war game primarily

[split bane]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-bait-fishing-thats-bait-time-to-go-fishing-dark-souls-gif-12687109592345272249

[rustic furnace]

For the first time ever, the way you play is objectively wrong

[gritty gyro]

Then why is it not like C&C

[rustic furnace]

What is C&C

[gritty gyro]

If Its primarily a war game, why is the politics so developed

[finite plume]

And Hitman ain't a stealth game 🥀

[gritty gyro]

Command And Conquer

[gritty gyro]

I mean you can go loud

[finite plume]

Can* But the whole point is being silent

[split bane]

The politics aren't that developed, only thing they have politically is the focus tree

[finite plume]

Just like the whole point of HOI4 is war

[gritty gyro]

Not necessarily

[finite plume]

If it wasn't about war, they wouldn't set it in WW2

They'd set it in the modern era of peace

[gritty gyro]

You can play politics during war

[rustic furnace]

The developed politics in question:

[finite plume]

Your entire score is based on stealth

[gritty gyro]

If It wasnt about politics, why a 1936 start

[finite plume]

Either you suck terribly at Hitman or you're ignorant

[patent thistle]

its better then the tiger atleast

[rustic furnace]

So you can get ready for war duh

[scenic spade]

to get ready

[gritty gyro]

Why not 1939 and get straight into the action

[rustic furnace]

WW2 started in 36

[split bane]

If it wasn't about war then why are there division designers, war production, and stuff

[scenic spade]

thats a option

[finite plume]

That exists lol

[rustic furnace]

So you get a few years to prepare

Lmao

[scenic spade]

are you aa donkey

a donkey

[finite plume]

And players don't like being railroaded

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[gritty gyro]

Yes but if Its mostly war, It would be the only option

[finite plume]

They like picking different paths

[fair horizon]

agreed, panther was a fine tank just overengineered

[patent thistle]

also it was the best tank PFP i could have picked since the positioning

[gritty gyro]

The reason its 1936 is so you can play politics

[finite plume]

It's a Sandbox

Please tell me

What a Sandbox is

[patent thistle]

panzer 4 is still my beloved

[split bane]

Mostly and only option don't mean the same thing...

[finite plume]

Y'know

[fair horizon]

should have used a sherman 🇺🇸 🦅

[rustic furnace]

Its a grandstrategy sandbox game

[finite plume]

If you want politics so much

Mod it yourself

[gritty gyro]

I was about to ask you the same thing??

[gusty oracle]

best tank ever made

[rustic furnace]

If you want politics so much, go play Democracy 4

[patent thistle]

bud my discord name is litterally german-

[gritty gyro]

Im fine with the current level of politics but the combat ruins my game

[finite plume]

We told you, yet you keep trying to critique us on our own game

[rustic furnace]

Once again skill issue

git gud

[worn coral]

thats not the soviet union btw

[gritty gyro]

Our? We play the same game my guy

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cranky-kong-cranky's-advice-git-gud-gif-16480965987528745011

[fair horizon]

and? they stole some shermans

[gritty gyro]

No you have a skill issue

[finite plume]

We aren't the same

[gritty gyro]

Git gud at politics

[finite plume]

I play HOI4 for fun

You play it like a job

[gritty gyro]

I play it for fun?

[split bane]

??? Bro, you're playing a game, set in WW2 and you're complaining about how there's combat and stuff

[gusty oracle]

your name is larp

[patent thistle]

not in a large enough quantity to be counted

[rustic furnace]

What poltics in hoi4 💔

At most you got the decision tab and laws & government

Thats it

[patent thistle]

i have 2 other accounts which focus there names on the luftwaffe and kriegsmarine

just not in here

[split bane]

Dude, if you want politics without focusing on combat, play a mod like TNO or smth
Combat is pretty much optional there (unless you play Germany or any of the Russian countries)

[rustic furnace]

Hoi4 has an entire logistics system

[gusty oracle]

I feel hoi4 is inherently political

[rustic furnace]

Or millennium dawn

TNO, Millennium Dawn, and Cold war iron curtain are more politics based

But even then

[finite plume]

I find it funny MD is less war-focused yet has larger tech trees and designers than most war-based mods lmao

[verbal jolt]

infinite space cheat

[rustic furnace]

War is still part of the game

[rustic furnace]

Yeah lmao

[gusty oracle]

but those are also butt

[gritty gyro]

No?

[rustic furnace]

Well yeah politics based mods are worse due to being boring

[gritty gyro]

I can fund an entire country using my weapons and resources

[finite plume]

No DLC 🥀

[gritty gyro]

Making them completely withstand the enemy

[rustic furnace]

Yeah thats lend lease

[gritty gyro]

I can coup countries

[finite plume]

Wow

[gritty gyro]

I can make their politics unstable

[finite plume]

A game mechanic

[gusty oracle]

I agree for sure but I also think hoi4 is very political

[gritty gyro]

Thats politics

[split bane]

That's not politics, that's just making someone else do the fighting for you

[finite plume]

It's a Pie chart -_-

[rustic furnace]

Breaking news: Someone discovers game mechanics

[finite plume]

It's not because countries themselves don't have different mechanics based on ideology

That's content made for the game to deviate and branch

[broken sky]

If you want a nice game play HOI3🤓 👆

[gritty gyro]

Breaking news: Someone discovers foreign interference

[finite plume]

If it was truly political, there'd be more ideologies than just the 4

[rustic furnace]

Indeed

[haughty basalt]

looks like ill be taking the whole planet

[dense axle]

is this sigma

[finite plume]

Breaking news: Someone who's been in this server for 4 years only has 70 hours

[gritty gyro]

There is in a weird sort of way

[gusty oracle]

well those are alignment, not ideology

[gritty gyro]

I once had socialist france that was still democratic

[rustic furnace]

Hoi4 is a grand strategy wargame with politics

[fair horizon]

which carrier?

[worn coral]

did you capitulate the soviet union in 1942?

[finite plume]

Called ideologies in the code, I reference them as it is

[split bane]

@gritty gyro If you want to play Hoi4 without combat try any of these mods: The New Order, Millennium Dawn, Kalterkrieg, Cold War The Iron Curtain
All of those are more political and combat is basically optional

[dense axle]

no idea i closed the tab

[rustic furnace]

Kalterkrieg is new to me

[dense axle]

no im still fighting them, germany died in 1942 for some reasons

[gritty gyro]

Except they arent really ideologies, you can for instance, be democratic on paper but controlled by oligarchy

[split bane]

Cold war based in the Kaiserreich universe

[worn coral]

what did u do brotato

[dense axle]

im alone against the WHOLE world

[patent thistle]

it allows me to do funny shit like this

[gritty gyro]

Or controlled democracy

Or liberal democracy

[rustic furnace]

Interesting

[rustic furnace]

yeah sub ideology

[gritty gyro]

Sure thanks!

[rustic furnace]

Its a game mechanic that does nothing

[dense axle]

usa, canada and mexico too are at war with me

[gritty gyro]

Thats not really what they are tho

[worn coral]

yeah u aint lasting long

[rustic furnace]

Thats what they are in the code

They do nothing

[dense axle]

❌❌❌

[rustic furnace]

Its just some more words

Thats it

[dense axle]

im winning

trust

[gritty gyro]

Code or not thats not what they are irl

[dense axle]

i have 400 divisions, 20k guns in stockpile

[split bane]

Nothing ever happens tho

[dense axle]

and total naval dominance

and more resources than the allies

[rustic furnace]

Thats 100% of politics based mods

Nothing ever happens

[finite plume]

Oh no

The devs didn't wanna make the game run 50% slower explaining what Syndicalism is!

🤯

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[dense axle]

aint no way 💀

[finite plume]

Fun fact but uh

[dense axle]

danish heavy cruiser died to subs

[sudden thistle]

Crazy

[finite plume]

Most of HOI4 players play for the war part

[rustic furnace]

Fun fact: we just fell for the craziest ragebait

[finite plume]

Guy's been here for 4 years, he's literally just that eccentric bruh

[modest coyote]

Germany is so cooked

[raven lava]

In the new update will East Hebei be made playable?

[finite plume]

Who's gonna play East Hebei 🥀

[raven lava]

Me

[finite plume]

Why 😭

[raven lava]

Bc its goated

Like Mengkukuo

[dense axle]

everybody

[worn coral]

check the lower right

[modest coyote]

Mengkukou player🥀

[dense axle]

east hebei has infinite army

[finite plume]

East Hebei new Germany

[dense axle]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-067-67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-gif-13940852437921483111

[rustic furnace]

67

W

[raven lava]

Im a Mengkukuo nationalist buddy

[rustic furnace]

I didnt even realize he has been here for 4 years

Thats crazy

[dense axle]

counter attacking will be your biggest regret

[gritty gyro]

Disagree

[finite plume]

You my friend

Are a minority

[modest coyote]

im not counter attacking

[rustic furnace]

Its true

[gritty gyro]

Post ww2 germany with yellow background?

[dense axle]

whenever you will counter attack

[rustic furnace]

99% of hoi4 players play for the war part

[raven lava]

Nooo Mengkukuo flag

[misty fossil]

TFR devs did australia dirty lmao. they made this guy ben roberts smith be its PM even though hes a convicted war criminal irl

[dense axle]

the same effects they have at attacking you, you will have at attacking them

[raven lava]

What else is there to do in hoi4 though

Ww2 is literally forced to happen

[finite plume]

You act like War Criminals aren't in power for most countries 🥀

[rustic furnace]

Exactly

Hoi4 is a grand strategy war game with a tiny bit of politics management

[misty fossil]

but at least the australian people would have more than enough decency to not elect a war criminal

[finite plume]

Anyways gotta love how you can see the point in which my ADHD ah brain sidetracked from working on DPRK

[misty fossil]

this guy was plastered all over the news last year

[rustic furnace]

Damn

[raven lava]

I hope Mengkukuo gets a focus tree

[misty fossil]

hows my army

[safe wing]

How come it has 520 tank divisons

[misty fossil]

all of them are tank divisions

[safe wing]

Then why are the icons infantry divs though

[rustic furnace]

God I love my british ally

[misty fossil]

i need to differentiate

plus i dont care

[hexed furnace]

Who needs infantry when you got tanks ig 💔

[safe wing]

Fair

[misty fossil]

lol

[finite plume]

It's China tho, they prob list their tractors as IFVs 🥀

[misty fossil]

LOL

[safe wing]

Infantry are good to hold the line while tanks do the heavy lifting

[hexed furnace]

True

[finite plume]

Ain't need defense if you kill all the people trying to attack first 🗿

[gilded cobalt]

Got the By Beer Alone achievement yesterday. It was basically a standard Germany run except that I sided with China against Japan.

Fun achievement nonetheless

[safe wing]

Someone did a tank only Manchuko run

It was basically torture

[gritty gyro]

Well theres no changing your viewpoint if

*ig

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[finite plume]

Neither for you lmao

[safe wing]

I did a navy Manchuko run once

[gilded cobalt]

Manchukuo is bugged rn too, the peace deal with Japan doesn't fire