#hoi4-general
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i dont know a lot about the age of sail but i know that America made the best boats

and now i have a 22 thousand truck deficit
why is it wrong
is that family guy?
Why do you need so many
i am going on my new ideea
which i had
every single division is a truck
and i have paratroopers
truck meta
and i slam thru as fast as i can at the enimy
i hate my game crashing i dont evne know why
before they can create a functional resistance
whenever germany gets involved in a war my game crashes
which is why i need, A shit load of fuel and stuff
Armored cars are faster
No
i dont have the DLC
Thats hoi4
True blitzkreig
ja
Armored Cars are La Resistance DLC
vax merstappen roleplay in hoi4
wait
max verstappen
i am making 30 trucks per day
not even making ford f250s 🥀
bro will never know the luxury of a dual rear wheel suspension 🥀
now ist 40
if you need a strong argument for why you should have many reichskommisariats, here it is
yeah but i hate them and the stupid puppet system
only downside to the puppet system is their troops becoming instantly yours
I feel like Reichskommisariats should get a seperate system from the puppet system
Where you can like take decisions to give them buffs and such
I DONT WANT YOUR CRAP DIVISIONS STOP SENDING THEM TO ME - me when puppets give me stuff
I use them for death stacking fr
It’s basically just free stats and free troops to fill the frontline
Worst thing about hoi4 map is that eupen and malmedy isnt a separate state
Worse thing about hoi4 is that Bhutan does not start with 580 factories
Historically inaccurate hoi4
worst part about hoi4 is that australia has like 40 building slots total
when is man the guns going into base game
The worst thing about hoi4 is that Bhutan doesn’t get its own tech tree
Bhutan should get a +500% attack on all territory for the game to be historically accurate
And also a national spirit that gives them +125% more factories in each state
Is götterdämmerung worth it for 20 euros or nah?
my opinion, do you want to play austria belgium or the congo? if no then no its not worth $20
I like playing germany
Probably a bit under the minimum spec. I did suffer with using HDD so it took me like 30-40 mins to load up a heavy mod (like MD, Novum Vex) yea, that's the time where my ram was still 4gig
So probably that
I personally think it’s worth it for the special projects
(On integrated too)
the special projects are toys for majors and minors will never get to use them by the time the game ends (majors barely can)(
It's impressive that hoi4 can run in a 2015 laptop
It was originally a joke idea made by the early Russian dev team at first, but then actual serious dedication was made to make Equestria at War what it is today. It runs fast, well optimized, expanded late game content and tech for your desired world conquests, everything you can expect for a total overhaul mod.
And nuclear fallout before that feature was implemented into vanilla via Gotterdamerung
Some mods are more optimized then the actual base game
Agreed
That's why I like playing NAD, EAW
It runs fast on my laptop
I myself am a enjoyer of OWB
Millennium Dawn takes an hour go past 1 year, even with a good gaming laptop
OWB runs so slow in my laptop lol
Agreed
OWB is heavy to run but the game speed stays consistent
Even Novum Vex takes like maybe 1 hr to go past 1 year
True
I haven't had any speed issues going into OWB
OWB works very well on my laptop
crazy that I have 50gig of mods
Should i just get the subscription for 4 months?
well my laptop is from 2015 so that's the problem :/
2015 laptop is insane
bruh
Mines like a 2020 or 2021
Yeah
I'd say that for some people, it's worth it in the long run, but I'd rather just buy it all out
I'm broke
What is the current meta for mountain divs?
36 width chads
The meta is to go around the mountains
nobody would ever expect you to go under the mountains
EaW goes around negative GBs
MONGOLIA SWEEP
No one would ever expect you to be the mountains
Novum Vex oddly runs faster than Millennium Dawn
MD is a cool concept but the optimization is so bad on it
But I have heard it has gotten better recently
They had a whole chat purge the last time I was there
i hate Not having Hoi4 But i also Love HOI4 Videos! i kinda Know alot abt the game.
Moustly
Hoi4 is 70% off its original price
im broke
as hell
and have like 1.65 euro
Follow me on Tik Tok!
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Song used:
Amour Plastique - slowed to perfection & loop
#history #meme #napoleon #relatable #capcut #real
thers somthing you can do
by gifting- Im clearly Joking
$0.09 doesn't do well for you
?
Why
bro didnt even attack the dutch 🥀
im not sure what to do with this run
and belgium and luxemburg
your Persia?
i planned on joining the axis and going for the middle east raj and some soviet states for the achievements
Aslo how do I enex my puppets? I'm giving them stuff but there atonemy is not going Down
nah they're cool i guess, the dutch however...
but the fact that greece has cores on the dodacanese ruined that plan for me
because i didnt get the achievement for getting greece
o i think i have to go to war with the axis just for that
yeah
well Cant you Load the past saves or smt if u did? and redo it that way?
everyone loves ironman ig
What.
i just want the achievements
I might not be joking abt that-
What monarchist path should I go down as Germany?
oh ok
i have No idea whats wrong But. Liberalism isnt democratic?.. Hold up
I don't know 🥀
prtsc
I have an old screenshot from OWB a long time ago
im pretty sure Liberalism is Like Monarchist?. wait i actually Have No idea abt the Ideliogies of Hoi4 ik monarchist fachist comunist and Democratic
Guys I have been grinding ck3 for like 2 years what did I miss
is that the Uhh
.......what
Mod of Fallout on hoi4?
Is there a way to see what kind of achivememts needs dlc or not?
just a pain to hunt for achivements
WHAT DID I MISS IN THE SPAN OF 2 YEARS
OWB is peak, I like the ENclave expansion to be honest, it's fun (Brotherhood of Steel is superior to NCR and Enclave but shhh)
my grammars bad aight?
@wanton whale tell me!
No, I meant that Liberalism and Monarchism..... Well.
As far as i know, they aren't really the same.
@quartz vigil I've been gone for 2 years have dynamic leaders been added yet
Idk.
Uhh

A lot
Do leaders get old and die yet
Götterdämmerung was released and some bad DLC called Grave Yard of Empires
Uhh, Franklin Roosevelt can die and Wilhelm II can and if you bomb London while they went the monarchist path you can kill their king
No BOS?
Yes but do leaders get old like in ck3
Erhm aktually it's BoS 🤓
(I hated saying that)
Nein
Unless it’s scripted like Peter II in Yugoslavia
No
I got mercy…
Cringe why not
hans. what was the point of that-
and this was the response- accurate-
Bread?
Your challenge is bread?
well isnt this expansion pass underwhelming
F off with the fr*nch
i'll still buy it, but goddamn they really dragging us through mud
Non, je suis French. Wi?
Idk any other words in French
@rustic furnace They got all 3 prelates
lmao
How
9 months for 6 focus tress, €47
Limited time too
Unless you own the subscription
wdym limited time
No its more
I'm pretty sure the Expansion passes are only on sale until new expansion passes are relased
Expansion pass includes the future packs
correct me if I'm wrong
aha, i guess they are
bro what did they do to the steam ui?
whole q2 2026 for a single czechoslovakia focus tree? come on buddy
not to mention this has been in the works for a while
whens the new naval update thing?
November 20th
half of the hungarian population is protecting a random forest in bulgaria
czechoslovakia having its own dlc is crazy
Just to get annexed by Germany in 1938-39
does anybody even read the multiplayer stuff 😭
i honestly expected like
a lot of people to be asking for it in the channel
what is it
a very british D-Day
Not weekend yet plus timezones yea
13.2km on my mot inf

Im actually gonna spend my night later learning navy in hoi4
played 800 hours+ but not learnt navy and i know its rookie numbers
https://youtu.be/t6Rco0HPeEk?si=8wPlwoPgiPj6O_px me in the new dlc
lovely
navy is easy, ask me any questions about navy and ill answer it
the soviets are. FINALLY not being useless
They didn’t take any steps back
totally not because i funded them like 50k guns at the very least:
Well quite a big expanded question but how the f am i gonna get good enough to play navy in mp
ouch-
carrier spam
also probably just playing and losing till you figure it out
Yeah proably how im gonna learn it
carrier and heavy cruiser spam or you are gonna get your carriers faster sunk then the bismarck
FINALLY
is paradox still adding coal to the game?
i've killed about 2,2mil men so far
and this entire war
is just for the dodacanese
great, kill the axis and then the communists.
i dont think they have any chances left lmao
nah i wont fight the soviets
not in this run at least
im in the comintern actually
your persia run is not over if you havent ended communism.
yeah it is
no
no
Rude, there are also femboys here
femboys are not men?
good, now build a navy and launch a revenge war against italy
with time
lmao
i hate femboys
no build it now
we won the race for berlin 🔥
fleet > army
now he gets encircled and dies
BUILD NOW
sure
the germans arent exactly in a position to try encirclements
funnily if you actually look, the race for berlin wasnt actually the west vs the east, it was 2 soviet generals having the race
Long live the Commintern
"damned Ivan. Always two tanks ahead."
the entire eastern front is one big encirclements
😭 😭 😭
Funny thing one claimed to have taken the reichstag but didnt so he sent in like 300 men to die to make sure he ended up being right by the time anyone could confirm it
now I gotta guard the ports until I can force the peace with that focus
stalin actually was the one who created it
thats so based
The best way to win against your competitors Is tò kill the competitors
Quote
By stalin
yeah when you look at soldiers as numbers instead of humans it turns out you can really acomplish your goals
Is taht Drake?
yes

my occupation zone
Is the hoi4 subreddit official?
Edmund-chan doesnt look much of a austrian tbf
Germnay in 1945
is it smart to get the Subscription in hoi4 if youre broke as shit?
love how norway is also still standing
exactly 2 years
NO YOU STILL HAVE TO END COMMUNISM.
the entire war was pointless
killed about 4 million people for nothing
🔥
oopsie
average
okay now I gotta get at least some resemblance of research and an industry (by federalizing/balkanizing my state)
ww1 be like:
Guys, i might have made andalusia the only country on earth
ww1 be like:
should i do this if im broke?
sure why not?
alr
I think.
thanks
what the helly
how do i remove the censor on the bad germans?
get rid of the russians now
bro didnt even take egypt 🥀
persia
Bro was exiled to Rhineland-Palatinate 💔
theres also 2 socialist romanias
best nation for democratic EU run?
france
axis still exists and somehow hungary who's a german puppet is not in it
peak alternate history
didnt even notice how badly japan was losing
more legit than warthunder
wym you dont remember when persia took half the world? smh
and also they're at war with quite litterally everyone
almost 3k divisions vs ~100 😭
suicidal romanians
they had ZERO reason to join the japanese
doing it for the love of the game
i can feel the yes king audio in combination with them getting crushed
what is that leader bruh
world of anime portrait mod
?
idk any of the portraits used ngl
and the portrait itself i believe is raiden shogun in her 2nd boss phase
does it have alya too?
i could ask the maker
if there was a mod with more known anime portaits i'd download instantly
can you show perhaps who exactly this is so i can better tell
history accurate persian fleet
oh that alya-
i gotta watch it one day
what happend to the second scharnhorst class-
peak anime. second season coming 2026
they scuttled it
i reccomend
first season
and a few episodes of the second one
but i dropped it
first season and first movie were peak
second season was boring af for me
THERES A SECOND AND A MOVIE??
my ass didnt know ;-;
there's 3 movies actually
3??
yeah
asked now we need to wait for a response
WEEBS GET OUT THIS IS A HOI4 CHANNEL
thanks
or at least talk about a good one
"weebs" in the big year of 2025 🥀
im just lonely
says the akagi/Kaga S1mp
what would you call a good one then
i only watched the first episode and i dont even play the mobile game
then why were you specifically the one that was basically begging me to buy them multiple times
PARAGUAY SWEEP
not actually that hard
cause fox girls
i killed the axis as paraguay once solo so its relatively easy
i could do that
Just sniped a fly
Never actually felt better in my life
Its been pestering me for the past day
mooooods
this guys a radical right winger
slavic pagan wheel
its just a wheel?
mooods
and now we wait
thats easy af just use the focus were you declear on each for one state and justify on uruguay
thats exactly what im doing
@heavy vigil
#warthunder #subscribe #military #memes #funny #gaming #army #history
Yeah, that's the shared "conquer South america" tree
Huh
hi
did you not see the persons profile
hungary dont think your in the position to call yourself "greater"
I wasnt looking at dc
Itll be handled
Nah, the great is referring to the internal stability
banger pfp i cant lie
There's something wrong about that pfp
i mean, its fine.
wym
A Swastika with more stripes is still a swastika
mod?
ye world of anime portait mod if you mean the portrait
allthough i was talking about the stability here more
hungarian federal republic
democratic "greater" hungary
Does the Chat Mod feature Haile Selassie?
I think ending the Christmas offensive on christmas 37 is very deserving of it
winnable
Bolivia catching strays out here
you got this
should have just taken those 2 states
thats not a swastika its the black sun
winnable
Chat so here me out
no
ill disband the army
no the black sun is diffrent
see what they do to me
i wanna learn navy im not new to hoi4 just to navy do i go italy or uk
brazil
just realised my mistake mb
cant learn if you start with a massive navy
I got all dlcs except south america unfortantly sir
do australia then
i guess ill try australia then
The meaning is still the same
called the Kolovrat
Swastika's a swastika
stay democratic or dont your goal is to defeat the japanese navy
Yes sir
once again its not a swastika, its a Kolovrat, a symbol for slavic unity
i get that for free already
whats that
It's a Kolovrat, which is a type of Swastika
Honestly, Canada and Australia are great for navy
Since you dont have to Care about anything else
There are literally thousands of types of Swastikas, many of which pre-date the Nazis by millennia
it plays the random sounds of naval invasions/war declaration randomly
canada sucks for navy
This precise one does, in fact, Not predate the nazis
literally like just destroyer research
Most of the ones used today don't
lets start cooking chat @fair horizon Thanks for tiå
you can get an ice carrier for almost free.
dont share nazi imagery on this server please.
Thanks Casey 🙏
ye sorry i was just showing the diffrence between the Kolovrat and the black sun
i know, but dont in the future please :)
yeah everyone who does the research can
there is a reason i removed my swastika mod
ye but canada can do it way faster
is it just me or is this flag incorrect
why?
meh
ice carriers are garbage anyways
too long to obtain and end up just being crap for that reason
researching them takes like until 1945 for the non-majors
you still get 1 for basically for free
i mean the research speed is nice but you get a free one anyways when you finish the research
also they're slow af
also unlike with australia you litterally have noone to worry about on historical
australia has to deal with atleast japan
they can be really nice since they get 180 deck space (you basically have to build that yourself because it gives you one with 90)
thats easy tbh
usually i convert canberra and australia into converted carriers
make some aa battleships to screen them and then focus on cruisers
my only hope is the us doing nothing 🙏
i need them to do anything this game
is it ironic that i own the cruiser that killed one of my destroyers now?
(yes i am looking at the kills that the ships did on mine=
i cant tell if this is good or not cuz 50% breakthrough is alot but its 8 ic
worth it
its 1938 tho so its very expensive for me
even though im germany
my mediums cost 13
it would nearly double the ic
alright pur 40 on them
Whats this😢
is spamming subs with dönitz a good plan for german navy?
spamming subs as any country is the strongest navy meta
actually or just a joke
actually
if you mass enough subs they do enough torpedo attacks to wipe fleets
so i guess ill spam subs
you need like 600 minimum
600?
idk
idk i dont do it because its cheesy af
@atomic grove ive tried invading italy prob 4 times and i cnat i have the netherlands but their navy claps me
whoah
delete this bud, that flag isnt allowed in here
fr
gl then 👍
ts aint tuff 💔
genuinely whats the problem if it isnt in a way that supports the ideology i dont get it
why are people scared of a flag
dear apinapalli
this symbol is not liked around here.
we will take action if you dont
i wish you the best
flowi
im crying bruh who do yall think you are 😭
ah i see, the wehraboos are out in full force
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
its like your showing garlic to a vampire
nah im not its a ww2 game
wtf man
im a pole id never be a wehraboo
Dont post nazi imagery on this server please. Even if accidental.
same for me
but apparently not being offended by a historical flag used in a non offensive way is being a wehraboo now
keep your "historical accuracy" mods but dont act like you dont know what they stand for
genuinely wtf are you talking about
repost cause some SISSY LIBERALS got mad at a hecking symbol
thats like saying that people shouldnt play germany because they did really bad things during ww2
that general needs to be shot
with an assault rifle
let me play neutral panama then because i dont want to be offensive
in to the head
grow up kid
How does this even happen
Dawg even im not that bad
huh?
200 k deaths to 0
carlist spain
Actual Greek mythology
welcome to hoi4 spanish civil war
and i was about to veteran sum divs
why would i care? i just informed you of the server rules
.
delete this bud
you clearly care
why do you care so much? its just a flag lmao
are you ragebaiting
going out of your way to defend it lmao
i could ask you the same question tho
@moderators annihilate this guy
im not defending the flag, im mostly just having a laugh at you for being so pressed about discord rules
hes just unaware
at the end of the day its just discord
bro discord is hell i cant even post a damn historical flag by accident without getting touched by these people
guys i think hitler commited suicide
bro its a flag, get over it and grow up
bros actually mad because he cant post the nazi flag 🥀
yo he did necromancy?
ragebait or iq below room temperature
delete this bud
are u 7 years old bro
discord users try not to type in the most insufferable way ever challange
also would a 7yr old know english?
(impossible)
ressurected himself twice just to extra suicide
same
thats crazy bro
you seem like the only reasonable person here
@slim nexus i would recommend you read rules 3, 8, 10 before i have to take action for being a nuisance
i am the one whos Reasonable In the Only way Of. Talking
Yes i have my Cons but im moustly chill
Do not bypass the filter either.
he craved that "bullet slides through your brain, killing you | ASMR TINGLY SLEEP GUARANTEED (permanent)"
i might regret my statement
i cant see them my dc is bugged
this gif is doing generational work on this server ngl
Make Sense Common Again!
is high ping good or bad?
great hoi4 content right there
Damn that's impressive
thanks for that
Ive seen videos with millions of views and a few thousand likes
ermm go to offtopic to discuss non hoi4 things
o algo
Its not even like a or like views not loading cause it was 2 hours ago
i thought that the views havent updated yet but it still shows 44k views after 2 hours
seized it temporarly, due to the dutch phyiscally not being able to extract it, meaning there would be a shortage on the market, due to them not having any convoys, will return it once they have some
dont let the dutch have it back
damn thats new
uhm, excuse me?
thats south american resources and therefore belongs to brazil
happends sometimes because the ai was either player forced the tree dispide wanting to go historical or because the austrians create the central powers
it usually happens because of the communist return event i think
or the hanging the nazis event after the civil war
sure, i guess-
thats what happends when you create complicated focustrees that even some players cant understand
for the ai there is too many split paths in the german tree
im talking about the players
there isnt one thats too complicated for a human being
that mostly goes for mods
the tree is at times so big that i straight up forget to do army and airforce because i am too focused on other stuffs like navy, industry and the political tree
ive done world conquests and forgotten to grab the army tree at all
the army tree in my opinion is just way too neglectable
since the ai tends to fall faster then IRL denmark with normal infantry
Ngl now that i think of it
It’s a good thing they’re actually making mtg free
It has so many important mechanics hoi4 is pretty unplayable without it
now we all can suffer the same way
navy
goes for every dlc in every paradox game imo
Navy without mtg is pure suffering
Tanks without nsb and planes without bba are ok but ships without mtg? Oh boi
navy without MTG is litterally just "better tech = win"
Pulled off three encirclements at the same time
nah it really is though
planes were better for me before 😭
Its: “bigger navy = win”
not even
cant be bothered to do all that research now
nope get a high quality battleship and maybe some carrier and you win without MTG
I only have mtg lr nsb and im honestly fine
i have pictures ive posted where 2BB/2CA/and 12 light cruisers beat the entire british and american navies
Was thinking of buying aat but at this point im not buying any dlc
Im NOT gonna buy bba
I want air warfare to be harder
broke boy 💀
i have everything up to bba and i have the subscription for the rest
i suggest avoiding DLCS like la resistance or older DLCS in general
I have bought lr some months ago
Like 4-5 idk
At this point if it becomes free idc
lr is kinda peak tho
Had time to play with it
ye but i expect it to become free some day elsewell cause it also has some important things like the agency
Lr and mtg are basically mandatory if you wanna hoi4 be olayable
The rest is good but not that important
and the other stuff earlier
In fact i bought lr anfld mtg first
battle of the bosporus turkey existing:
Then i waited and then bought nsb
I wonder if theyre gonna make that free
Im honestly not buying country packs
noone would care i think
the trees is garbage anyways
bulgaria is very fun to play
thats one that is acceptable for a first playthrough
greece too but that is a bit more pain due to dept being a thing
ye but barely gives any replayablity
good luck waiting till 1942 to finally do shit
if you're not going for the ottomans then you have a thousand 70 day focuses before doing smth
anyone luxembourg world conquest?
no i lost my sanity with bangladesh already
understandable
if they go after the us aswell then it sucks tho ngl
i dont want them in the allies so early
how can i invite countries to EU?
but they might be going fascist anyway
you dont, you core their countries
nvm it appeared after few days
theres eeally 1,200,000 people playing csgo right now
or cs2 i meant
50k playing hoi4 now
26th place on steam
ffs why did they have to do that
it blocks me from going north
smartest ai mexico campaign
fr tho why are they like this
😈
ol willy pete 😈
in my ahist games theyre one of the few i usually set to go normal
cuz nothing they do in their alternate paths can ever be opportune for me
i swear every country wants to go commie in ahist games
Geneva suggestion
lil circle
smh i shouldve done that
lil soviet snack nom nom
forgot that if you set someone on historical it still lets you get achievements
avg ai communist greece
went to war with both yugo and bulgaria
slovakia with zaolzie is cursed
looks so weird
what
im sure they will get along just fine!
why is ahist always so cursed
they lost their independence war but they are still independent
Lol the Neo Confeds declared war on the Black Nationalist like 2 days later
i have a plan
oh
thats not nice
im restarting the run and making mexico go historical
them going off the rails ruined the run lol
What's the Spanish Directory?
Are you ready for the ze neue doctrine system?
Spanish Fascists
Never heard of them before
they only appear if the carlists revolt iirc
Is getting the No Step Back DLC worth it?
Ok so all the people who bought man the guns all this time ago get nothing? Not even like a song or something
mao zedong an chiang kai sheg on stuff that i dream about
uhhh
t
yes
so this is true polish supremacy huh?
Fake Romanov Congressional Kingdom of Poland
Alright
Do y’all have a good strategy to win every war
yes
It adds lots of content, and adds one of the most important parts of Hoi4.
chat is this normal?
Ok
ive seen worse
Okay I will most likely get it then
Its very USSR focused, if you like that nation.
but also about nearly all nations bordering the USSR.
I dont like the ussr it's too big, I prefer to play smaller nations
Baltics, Poland, ect...
Ah that is good then
fr
baltics suck tho
like wtf is that faction map
i mean they are playable
its content
i personally like playing Italy
Estonia is probably the best
ok
or monarch lithuania
russia is next
lithuania commonwealth path is fun but its kinda the same as poland
yeah
yeah thats what i had in mind
getting finland is cool
and then only the fascist path
i also had fun with the polish romanian union path
I did one of these some time ago
yeah its cool
so based japan
my favorite schizo mod
who would willingly use the tno ui
cope
i use the map mod because its nice but the ui is painful to look at
is that vanilla with tno ui?
yes
it's not that bad lmao
it is worse than the default one thats fs
How the F am i supposed to beat japans navy with this i cant make it big enough before war with japan
stole the land
redditor lmao
???
what business could romania possibly have in the raj
i would end the axis war
but i cant spare any troops from the russian border
so
yeah
i took almost all the balkans then i declared on iran to steal more oil and i bordered enemies after
yes
Questionable.
the red is kinda....
ugly
but also kinda not
guys i need help with doctrine
bro im ngl i never research the better armors for my tank
which one should i choose while playing as ussr
mass assault
alr
underproduce guns for more historical accuracy
what abt the air
the middle one
always the middle
BUT
holy dude
for mass assault
I actually did it
the russians are taking a beating rn
without cough cough console commands
for mass assault do i go left or right
what nation
ussir
rate this empire
paradox should really make smth like dynamic tags for civil wars.for example when afghanistan is in a civil war it should be like AFG-1 and AFG-2 cuz it can lock you out of your tree if the civil war doesnt end
i was legit locked out of my tree as iran because afghanistan did the civil war that spawns 100 units on each side and it never ended
what does it say when you try to
right click on them and call to war, they wont come help you in your own territory like 90% of the time
they will
europe is pretty much just me and some other stuff
goe is lazy slop
once the afghan civil war stole one of my states as iran
Some people find such gif actually disturbing
because its hard coded slop civil war
i only played as the east indies company
so i might've messed up
infinite
bro it also ruins the british decolonization cuz if you do the timurid path as india you get the raj tag and india becomes generic so india doesnt become free
civilwar
i hate tno ui but the gif is is fire
kinda funny but not really that entertaining
