hoi4-general

[uncut heath]

and dn

den

[atomic grove]

and then

[tranquil void]

No support divisions?

[wraith mauve]

How do I kill German

Early game

[atomic grove]

i kinda recommend building a navy as monarchist germany

its kind of fun

[atomic grove]

its impossible unless ur france

[mossy escarp]

I’m dead ass cooked please help

[atomic grove]

how did this even happen

how do u even get the italian civil war as italy

[mossy escarp]

I’m Germany

[kind vale]

What Belgium path is the most fun

[atomic grove]

oh

no wonder

[uncut heath]

dont trust italy lol

[atomic grove]

u might as well abandon italy

[random delta]

nearly the entirety of Asia has been taken over by the axis even Iran is on our side this sure is wild...

[atomic grove]

and just it on the alps

[uncut heath]

i never allow italy to join the war

[hoary mortar]

must eep

[atomic grove]

u not using field marshals makes me cry and wonder how u even won

btw

[mossy escarp]

Here’s my full map btw most of my army is gone in Russia lost 20 mil and im at 0 manpower

[atomic grove]

why is belgium occupying the congo

[hoary mortar]

cuz belguim

[atomic grove]

is this an older version

[rustic furnace]

This is tragic

[random delta]

are field marshals really that important

[hoary mortar]

they help alot

[atomic grove]

yes

no brainer

that shouldnt be a question

[mossy escarp]

Hey at least I won west Russian war , problem is I have a mod that does the great trial along with burgundy

[atomic grove]

u should always use field marshals if u got one

[random delta]

well uh i was playing as Italy so i didn't take the brunt of the combat

[atomic grove]

btw why are you playing on an older version

[hoary mortar]

ye they are very helpful with skills/planning

[atomic grove]

why not use the latest

[random delta]

older version?

[atomic grove]

yeah

belgium is occupying the congo

[mossy escarp]

Brazil is invading me 😭😭

[random delta]

is that not normal for belgium to occupy the congo?

[atomic grove]

yeah

it isnt

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-twilight-sparkle-microwave-gif-13289092693693133434

[atomic grove]

belgian congo is autonomous

[random delta]

well uhh

[atomic grove]

idk how u dont know that

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-twilight-sparkle-microwave-gif-13289092693693133434

[sudden falcon]

easier

😭

[atomic grove]

wait

[rustic furnace]

Starting to get back into hoi4

[atomic grove]

when was gotterdammerung released again

[sudden falcon]

you can order 66 easier on older versions

[rustic furnace]

Thanks to my internet going out last night lmao

[sudden falcon]

use avalanche beta

[random delta]

i didn't know i was playing on an older version and i don't know how to update it anyways

[sudden falcon]

its pre aat

[atomic grove]

ik

[hoary mortar]

aah

[sudden falcon]

thats how u get siberian tiger

1% of people have it

[craggy trail]

[atomic grove]

how do u not know

[hoary mortar]

Anyways im tired gn ahve fun!

[random delta]

i am devoid of knowledge

[atomic grove]

are you new to hoi4 or did u pirate it or sum

[random delta]

i am infact new

[atomic grove]

strange

[rustic furnace]

99% of pirated versions of the game are up to date

And he has 0 dlcs

[random delta]

i dont even pirate things anyways

[atomic grove]

yeah thats what im saying

its strange

[rustic furnace]

Very

Wait how do you know he is on an older version?

[atomic grove]

because belgium is occupying the congo

[random delta]

something about the congo

[rustic furnace]

Dont they still occupy the congo if you dont have the dlc

[atomic grove]

idk

[random delta]

they need to make an update where they delete France

[rustic furnace]

Pretty sure they still occupy it if you dont have the dlc

[atomic grove]

let me test it

[wraith mauve]

If I declare war on Turkey and Romania garuntees them will I got to war with a the garunteers of Romania?

[random delta]

are you by any chance playing as Greece or Bulgaria

[atomic grove]

no

[rustic furnace]

no

[atomic grove]

you're right

[rustic furnace]

I kind of figured it would still be occupied

[pine mountain]

anyone know if the new dlc will be sold additionally or if it will only come as part of the expansion pass

[atomic grove]

probably both

[pine mountain]

ah good

[atomic grove]

no one exactly knows

is east india company good

[rustic furnace]

Played it once, found it fun enough

not fun enough to play it again

But like mid

[split bane]

Not even the new portrait? How dare PDX take away Zeeland and his hat!

Actually he resigns like a month into the game nvm

[toxic lotus]

L opinion

Its a fun country bro

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[rustic furnace]

Whats a france

[atomic grove]

wrong

unless

you are talking about the napoleonic path

where u get a good national spirit

its one of the countries that paradox has shat on and will never get fixed unfortunately

[brittle cypress]

France is kind of strong though

In a vague way

[atomic grove]

yeah

[brittle cypress]

Somewhat

except it’s worse than Germany in every way

[atomic grove]

the surrender limit debuff doesnt make sense and i feel like they should just add a mechanic where if paris is occupied, then france gets debuffs to basically every factor of its divisions

but at the same time

i also dont want it removed

just for paratroopers

[brittle cypress]

It’s irrelevant you get rid of it when you play France by war

[atomic grove]

because if they do paratroopers basically lose its use

[stark rain]

Bro

I just realized

Sf doctrine is stuped

It's good only for advantage battlefield

[brittle cypress]

What

[rustic furnace]

huh

[atomic grove]

btw does france get its surrender limit to 100% or like 99% if u get max collabs on france?

[rustic furnace]

Does anyone understand what they said about superior firepower

[stark rain]

It's have a bad organization

[rustic furnace]

I wish to understand

[stark rain]

Not good for naval invasion planning

[atomic grove]

like all other doctrines

what r u on

[stark rain]

The battlefield is gaining advantage

[atomic grove]

just use marines if u want extra buffs to naval invasions

[rustic furnace]

What

[stark rain]

At first I like sf Bec it's give low amount of casualties

[atomic grove]

wdym

[stark rain]

Are you dumb or something?

[atomic grove]

it doesnt

[rustic furnace]

I play hoi4

So yes I am dumb

[atomic grove]

dude

u get less casualties

[brittle cypress]

Are you using a translator or something

[rustic furnace]

But what you are saying makes no sense

[brittle cypress]

This is incomprehensible

[atomic grove]

the higher the hp of ur div is

[atomic grove]

unfortunately hes forced to speak english

[stark rain]

No

[brittle cypress]

Also superior firepower takes more losses than mass assault ^

[random delta]

but its France

[stark rain]

Superior firepower is good for infantry

[atomic grove]

line artillery*

[stark rain]

But for me the best doctrine for now is grand battleplan

[brittle cypress]

Banned

[stark rain]

Yeah

[brittle cypress]

Support artillery

[atomic grove]

it shouldve always been

[stark rain]

Also support company

[stark rain]

But you know what

It's really give a bad planning bonus

[atomic grove]

dont be surprised

gbp focuses on planning a lot

[serene token]

Question, has anyone played Balatro before?

[rustic furnace]

no

Why

[random delta]

what is balatro

[rustic furnace]

Such a random question to be asking in general chat

[stark rain]

Do you think which better between grand battleplan and sf?

[atomic grove]

it depends

[serene token]

I thought this was off topic, my bad.

[rustic furnace]

Grand battleplan, I never use sfp anymore

[atomic grove]

if u plan to use line arty the whole game for some reason, use sfp

[random delta]

is mobile warfare even that good

[rustic furnace]

I dont really see it for my uses

[atomic grove]

yes

[rustic furnace]

no

[atomic grove]

its the 2nd best doctrine behind gbp

imo

[random delta]

the duality of mankind

[stark rain]

But it's low organization

[atomic grove]

dont worry about organization

[rustic furnace]

Org isnt the only important stat

[stark rain]

Also I don't really know what planning bonus are using for

[stark rain]

Yea but If you focus on naval invasion it's really important

[atomic grove]

in hoi4, the energy of ur divisions doesnt matter as much as in real life

[rustic furnace]

Planning bonus my beloved

[toxic lotus]

Nah

[atomic grove]

planning bonus gives buffs to soft attack and breakthrough

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[atomic grove]

if u finish left path of gbp, u get a max planning of 80% or 65%

[rustic furnace]

Hello

[atomic grove]

which means

80/65% more soft attack and breakthrough

[stark rain]

Oh

It's mean planning bonus gives you a buff on soft attack and breakthrough?

[rustic furnace]

yes

[cedar lance]

wassup

[atomic grove]

yes

[rustic furnace]

Getting back into hoi4

[stark rain]

I get it now

Tysm guys

[cedar lance]

nice

[rustic furnace]

after 2 months of not really playing much of it lmao

[stark rain]

I maybe always use gbp

[atomic grove]

the bonus gets better the higher ur planning is

[rustic furnace]

I mostly either use gbp or mass mob

[random delta]

is dispersed industry better than concentrated

[atomic grove]

it depends

[stark rain]

Anyway it's not good for short war

[atomic grove]

dispersed is only if ur gonna get bombed a ton

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-my-love-gif-123524107402095823

[random delta]

as an axis nation to be exact

[atomic grove]

if ur an axis nation pick concentrated always

[random delta]

why

[atomic grove]

5% more factory output for each research of concentrated

[random delta]

aint britan gonna bomb me

[atomic grove]

yeah but they are cowards

plus

they are only going to bomb the benelux

once u kill france

[random delta]

oh

[atomic grove]

but the benelux isnt even ur core

[random delta]

well as an italy main

[atomic grove]

so its nothing to worry about

[random delta]

that means i wasted hours of my life researching dispersed

[atomic grove]

not really

dispersed is also good

its just that

[random delta]

well for what IM doing

[atomic grove]

u miss out on 25% extra factory output

[random delta]

concentrated is better

EXACTLY

[quaint silo]

fake news

[atomic grove]

concentrated is better for like 99% of nations u play

[random delta]

i missed out on that beautiful factory output

wasting HOURS on protecting myself from bombings that were never to be

[rustic furnace]

Factory output my beloved

[quaint silo]

building slots

[rustic furnace]

Dispersed and Concentrated give the same amount of slots per level

[quaint silo]

proof?

[rustic furnace]

+20% per level

[quaint silo]

images are cropped no way to tell if there edited or not

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-baiter-ragebaiter-semij1-hello-rage-baiter-gif-7038212996302592299

Check for yourself if you dont believe it

[atomic grove]

coping final boss

[rustic furnace]

I shall not entertain ragebait

[quaint silo]

sigh people these days are just so immature with there insults smh

[toxic lotus]

Guys is it actully only going to be czech?

[feral lark]

ah...well....that's awkward. i seem to have nuked a province that i kinda forgot was a core, and slightly tanked my war support.

[atomic grove]

what

[quaint silo]

standalone its defiantly costing $15

[toxic lotus]

The expanison

Like the country pack

[atomic grove]

czechia is getting the expansion released first?

[toxic lotus]

No

[blazing belfry]

Support the cause for New Zealand in TAOG

[toxic lotus]

After the asian rework

[atomic grove]

oh\

how would anyone know that besides the main devs

[quaint silo]

the dlc page

[toxic lotus]

Hopefully they will add yugo or rom too

Or both

[atomic grove]

what else is there to add to those 2 honestly

unless

they give yugoslavian units an actual voice

[toxic lotus]

France

[uncut wraith]

austria just entered my land through neutral romania

this is great war redux by the way

[quaint silo]

probably not doing it would hurt there profit margins compared to if they made a dlc for each one

[rustic furnace]

Pretty sure its only the czechs

[uncut wraith]

but this is straight bs

[toxic lotus]

Sad

[brittle cypress]

Romania needs update too

And Yugoslav

They should have packaged them

[toxic lotus]

Ye

[rustic furnace]

If its a cheap little dlc I dont care

Its made by modders

[toxic lotus]

Ah really

[rustic furnace]

Yeah

[wet hollow]

Hah, which language?

[brittle cypress]

Croatian

[quaint silo]

what playing great war redux?

[atomic grove]

i dont know

serbian maybe

[wet hollow]

I thought Serbian

Where the capital is

I guess

[brittle cypress]

That’s the joke

[wet hollow]

I know

[brittle cypress]

They all speak the same language

[rustic furnace]

2 devs for it, someone I dont think i've ever heard of and Marjin

Read the store page description

[uncut wraith]

no that countries can invade you by using a neutral country’s military access

[wet hollow]

Are you sure it wasn't a Naval Invasion?

I mean, It can happen

[uncut wraith]

they had a division in romania that went south into my occupied bulgarian territory on land

[wet hollow]

I have no idea, but, they're incircled, and, It's only 3 (If I remember) divisions, you'll be alright

[quaint silo]

call me crazy but you might have left a province on the border unconquered

[wet hollow]

That too

[uncut wraith]

no bulgaria capitulated and that province was mine

[wet hollow]

Or, when you capitulated Bulgaria, Austria had divisions in Bulgaria, so, they stayed and reoccupied said provinces.

Literally the only other explanation, either way, you'll be okay.

[quaint silo]

i mean could have had another nations unit in bulgaria then the ai snaked it to the border with Romania but idk id solve that problem by just not playing GWR

[gusty oracle]

idk what to play in hoi4

[wet hollow]

Like, country?

[gusty oracle]

country, mod, anything

[wet hollow]

Hmm

[gusty oracle]

last thing I did was commie germany

[wet hollow]

You know what I love to do? Monarchist Sweden

Go for it

[atomic grove]

iran, iraq, argentina, mexico, fascist azad hind

[wet hollow]

Maybe that's biased, but, hey

[rustic furnace]

EaW and play stalliongrad fr fr

[quaint silo]

eaw such a snorefest

[gusty oracle]

im scared of eaw

[gusty oracle]

mexico is actually not a bad idea

[gusty oracle]

how would you play that

being neutral and all

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-meme-unimpressed-mane-6-gif-3243372435319865547

[wet hollow]

You don't have to be neutral.
Play R56 if you want, gives Monarchist/Empire Sweden a different tree

It's fun! Besides the lack of Manpower

But, that's an easy fix.

[rustic furnace]

Why its so peak

[gusty oracle]

I might try that out tomorrow

[gusty oracle]

MLP

[wet hollow]

I hope you do! You won't regret it, it'll be fun >.<

[blazing belfry]

EAW is scary because imagine if the developers put that effort into anything else, they could make millions

[rustic furnace]

yeah so

[gusty oracle]

are you swedish perchance?

[rustic furnace]

Thats peak aswell

2 peaks in one

[gusty oracle]

so thats scary

[quaint silo]

forming the balkan federation as yugoslavia in MD was less of a snorefest then most my games of EaWW

[wet hollow]

I am Swedish and Scottish

[gusty oracle]

I see

[blazing belfry]

❤️

[rustic furnace]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

[gusty oracle]

living in uk?

[wet hollow]

No, Boston USA, for a few months

[gusty oracle]

oh nice

I'd like to visit boston

[rustic furnace]

How is that scary

[quaint silo]

yeah a skill issue on the end of the devs 😭

[gusty oracle]

its just so different

[wet hollow]

It's nice, at least, the part of it where I live.

[rustic furnace]

Scared of colorful talking horses

[wet hollow]

I love Sweden and Scotland, proud of where I come from, all should

[gusty oracle]

100%

[blazing belfry]

I have swedish ancestors on my nanas side

[rustic furnace]

EaW is meant to be played for a long time

Seems like a skill issue on your part

[gusty oracle]

my school has a trip there maybe I should go

[mossy escarp]

?

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-gif-21540787

[blazing belfry]

I am still Swedish patriot with that small percent 🇸🇪

[wet hollow]

That is nice, my entire name, first, middle and last is Scottish, but, still I am large majority Swedish, It's a little odd

[wet hollow]

Absolutely!

That'd be the best idea!

[gusty oracle]

bro is Minnesota

[blazing belfry]

I'm from New Zealand

[gusty oracle]

interesting

[quaint silo]

doesnt change the fact that the majority of the nations I have played in base EaW is just a straight snoreathon

[blazing belfry]

I got english irish scottish swedish spanish blood

[rustic furnace]

yeah just seems like you hate fun

Its not for you obviously

[wet hollow]

Mh, that is good.
The rest of me is English, Irish, Norwegian, Danish, German, French and Dutch

[gusty oracle]

ive heard EAW is like top 5 mods

[wet hollow]

All amazing places.

[rustic furnace]

It is

Its amazing

[gusty oracle]

im Irish, spanish, native american, and probably others

[rustic furnace]

And to those who just hate on it due to the subject material without playing it. Try it

[blazing belfry]

Oh yeah dutch too I forgot, W countries

[midnight shore]

When is expansion pass out

[wet hollow]

Native American? That is cool! I assume from North America?

[gusty oracle]

november

[wet hollow]

I have just all European, from what I know

[rustic furnace]

November 20th

[gusty oracle]

yeah

[wet hollow]

Be proud of it!

[gusty oracle]

I can directly trace ancestery back to mexico and ireland

[wet hollow]

I think I also have a little bit of Polish

But that'd be a small small amount

[gusty oracle]

spain is an assumption because they colonized mexico

[rustic furnace]

Stop copying me

[blazing belfry]

Actually, the swedish who moved to new zealand and was my ancestor married a scott lmfao

[gusty oracle]

I can't

[wet hollow]

We're friends now

[gusty oracle]

so ireland is a place

[wet hollow]

Yes

[blazing belfry]

emerald isle

[wet hollow]

Oh! I also have a bit of Welsh too

Forgot

[cedar lance]

should i buy the new expansion pass 2 next month?

[brittle cypress]

If you want it

[cedar lance]

but why does it Cost 48 euros?

[gusty oracle]

il probably buy

[wet hollow]

I'm waiting.
The price is far too much for me

See what it actually includes

[cedar lance]

jesus

[blazing belfry]

I'll still get it because I love HOI4 💔

[cedar lance]

for me in europe it costs 48.77

[blazing belfry]

what country?

[gusty oracle]

man whats going on in new zealand

[humble wing]

Is It new zealands dollars?

[cedar lance]

finland

[blazing belfry]

economic recession

[blazing belfry]

Suomi!

[humble wing]

For all Europe that have euro Is 48.77

[wet hollow]

It's 50$ Here, I mean, come on

[humble wing]

For me It Is same

[wet hollow]

I can't do that

[cedar lance]

in estonian we call it soome

[humble wing]

Alltough the 77 cents Is kinda annoying tò see

[cedar lance]

im estonian btw

[humble wing]

Eesti

[cedar lance]

jah eesti

XD

[humble wing]

I am not estonian tough

[gusty oracle]

its the same here in america

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

oh alr

[gusty oracle]

48.77 is really weird price

[cedar lance]

ill still buy it

idc

[humble wing]

The cents annoy me kind of a lot

[humble wing]

I dont have the Money to 🙁

[blazing belfry]

OCD

[humble wing]

Will have tò work again

Yea

[cedar lance]

i get like 30 euros per week on friday

[blazing belfry]

are you filipino

[humble wing]

Damn only?

Nah italian

[blazing belfry]

🇮🇹 ❤️

[cedar lance]

well i do get a chance to buy a 50 euro paysafe card per month

[humble wing]

When i worked i got 50€ First month and then 100-150€ a week last three months

[cedar lance]

oh nice

i cant work sadly

[quaint silo]

its like that minecraft mod a few of the nations in it are good but the rest are just boring to play and 95% of the time its just "oh well would you look at the time" https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-would-you-look-at-the-time-chudjak-nothing-always-bet-on-nothing-gif-7519736555744720052

[cedar lance]

im autistic

[humble wing]

You can work fine

[cedar lance]

what

[humble wing]

Dont demolarise

[cedar lance]

im not

[humble wing]

Wh?

[cedar lance]

what

tbh i always buy new dlcs expansions etc

[rustic furnace]

Sure, your open to your opinion

[humble wing]

If i do i might get the IRS called my parents tò whop me up

(jk not IRS)

[cedar lance]

XD

[humble wing]

They already rarely let me buy stuff because i Need tò save up for university so immagine if i ask for 50bucks

They might let me since i have my own Money but no risking

I would love tò live another few years

[cedar lance]

alr

i get 50 euros from aunt when i visit estonia

[humble wing]

I might Just gamble my Life for a DLC pass fr

[cedar lance]

as like a gift

[quaint silo]

ermmmmm acshually it's You're

[tired reef]

are they releasing 3 dlcs then 1 in november and 2 in 2026?

[rustic furnace]

Cool

[lilac mango]

Arr you literally autistic or just hoi player?

[edgy shard]

🐐

[quiet yacht]

Why if I stage a commie coup in fascist Russia the state is called "agrarian socialism"

[cedar lance]

just a hoi4 player

[lilac mango]

Why not

Commmies you know

[quiet yacht]

In the war declarations is the soviet union but in the map is named after the ruling party

[blazing belfry]

send an image

[quiet yacht]

I played it yesterday

[lilac mango]

Mhm

[quiet yacht]

I will try to replicate it

[lilac mango]

Maybe they didn't come with the name for that state

[quiet yacht]

In some diplomacy stuff is named correctly

[lilac mango]

Ussr?

[quiet yacht]

Yes

I'm playing road to 56

[lilac mango]

That's strange because ussr cant exist anymore

Oh no

Then this may be their mistake

[sudden grotto]

Basically ye

[lilac mango]

Wait how could you to carry the coup out?

Road 56 stuff used?

[split bane]

TWR moment

[lilac mango]

What dlcs in a nutshell?

Focuses for Bhutan?

[quiet yacht]

I staged a coup when the stability was low

[lilac mango]

But you need red influence

[tough panther]

is this with or without la resistance?

[quiet yacht]

Without

[tough panther]

it's quite unfortunate how easy it is to exploit that mechanic when playing without la resistance

[atomic grove]

worst border ive ever seen

[split bane]

1. Japan, China (commie and nationalist), Philippines
2. Australia, Siam, Indonesia
3. Czechoslovakia

[quiet yacht]

Immediately after they turned fascist i preserved a bit of popularity by boosting it

Waiting for the coup to start

[dusky burrow]

least chaotic russian civil war

[lilac mango]

Ok these are nice except of 2 line

[dusky burrow]

Well we know what the future DLCs are about

Like that's what's in the description

[gusty oracle]

finno-uzbek SSR

[tough panther]

the forgotten theatre of the great finno-korean hyperwar

[gusty oracle]

oh shit

i dropped this ball knowledge on my friend yesterday

[tough panther]

too bad basic history is now "ball knowledge" 😢

[gusty oracle]

I know

[lilac mango]

I was eating m&ms and poured out some

[gusty oracle]

but actually I'll see a video about the most well known historical topic ever and some 5 year old in the comments will be saying "elite ball knowledge"

[lilac mango]

Is this Belgium or Germany

[gusty oracle]

these look weird color

[lilac mango]

Its not blacc

[split bane]

They kinda look like Reese's Pieces

[gusty oracle]

no I mean the red

[lilac mango]

I didn't't even heard of that

[lilac mango]

Idk I don't see nothing wrong with it

[split bane]

These things

They come in orange, yellow, and brown

[scenic moon]

Expansion pack 2 😭

[lilac mango]

Oh no, a imitator

[scenic moon]

?

[lilac mango]

Not to you

[lilac mango]

Nah my ball looks more vermilion

[scenic moon]

💀

[dusky burrow]

Restitutor Orbis is here

[gusty oracle]

I didn't know they had these in canada

[split bane]

Honestly the only reason why they're popular is because M&Ms said no to being in ET so they went to Reeses

[lilac mango]

What is et

[scenic moon]

Isnt that how they call emperor aurelian

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[scenic moon]

We need a proper rome game paradox

[lilac mango]

Is victoria 3 playable already?

[split bane]

The movie by Steven Spielberg

[split bane]

We also have British Smarties and American Smarties (but we call those Rockets here)

[gusty oracle]

wait theres british smarties?

[scenic moon]

Its actually my former dc nick how do you know 🧐🕵🏻‍♂️

[gusty oracle]

im learning a lot

[split bane]

#1239926537512292362
#historical-multiplayer
#alt-history-multiplayer

[scenic moon]

Bro said enough

[vale solstice]

Hi

[scenic moon]

Hoi4 ck3 and eu4 is my holy trinity

😇🙏🏻

[split bane]

Yeah, they're chocolate inside a sugar shell, like M&Ms
But in the UK they have it so the orange ones are a special flavour (unfortunately we don't have the special orange ones here)

[scenic moon]

But a rome game would be cool

[gusty oracle]

what on earth

I always forget not everyone eats our american candies

[lean oasis]

👌
🖕

[tough panther]

I looooove rockets

[hexed furnace]

Now why would the AI decide to banish Italy to only having Albania and Ethiopia

[tough panther]

yummy chalk candy

[split bane]

They're good, I remember taking the small ones and basically took shots with them

[vale solstice]

There's also Lentilky in Czechia

Which is basically the same

[tough panther]

we have them in canada. it's like M&M but if it sucked.

cadbury mini egg supremacy 4life

[dusky burrow]

Emperor of Ethiopia amirite?

[hexed furnace]

Lol

[gusty oracle]

we have cadbury here too

[dusky burrow]

It's also your current dc nick

[split bane]

We also got Oh Henry's up north
They were discontinued in the States by Nestlé but since the Canadian rights were owned by Hersheys they just kept making them

Honestly my favourite chocolate bar

[gusty oracle]

what a shame we lost these

I want to do a jefferson/oregon territories road trip sometime

like NorCal, Oregon, Washington, British Colombia

[split bane]

Sounds very scenic

[gusty oracle]

farthest north I've been in the USA is bend oregon

[gusty oracle]

it is

[tough panther]

they're so good

I will be a cadbury glazer till the day I die

[gusty oracle]

british

[tough panther]

they make good chocolate and I cannot lie

they also made my country too

[split bane]

If you ever do have your road trip, make sure you get an Oh Henry, a Nanimo Bar, some Poutine (honestly, Costco poutine is pretty good), and some loaded fries from New York Fries (a Canadian brand surprisingly enough) when you cross over to BC

[tough panther]

nanaimo bar overrated

hot take

[sudden grotto]

Oh henry republic

[gusty oracle]

same kinda

[split bane]

Might be overrated but they are still good

[gusty oracle]

if I go to canada ill make sure to

[tough panther]

I live in nanaimo now so maybe I'll see if they make it better in the authentic city

my experience in other cities has been mid at best

[gusty oracle]

vancouver island

[tough panther]

yes

astute observation

[cunning hill]

Why am I not getting air superiority?

[gusty oracle]

I used google maps

[tough panther]

oh

add nanaimo to hoi4 when

[gusty oracle]

theres cities with 1 million people that arent in hoi4

so probably never but maybe in TFR

[vale solstice]

Because your enemy has more planes i guess

[tough panther]

add cody, wyoming to hoi4 when 😔

[vale solstice]

You have 400 planes and the enemy has almost triple that

[gusty oracle]

Wyoming is ironically super cool

[sudden grotto]

Because thry got more Planes duhh

And a slight Better quality

Ig

Dont put cas on

[cunning hill]

It’s like when I spam planes tho my air mission efficienty goes down

[sudden grotto]

Its a waste when It isnt green air

[sudden grotto]

They might have a Better doctrines?

U never know, maybe its the AI time to shine

[devout trench]

Hoi4 starts dates are like 80 years ago though so it’s not surprising a lot of cities aren’t included on the map

[haughty basalt]

Enemy has More plains + AA

[scenic moon]

Its not?

[willow plume]

there are a lot of cities that arent in hoi4

[willow plume]

insane bordergore

[hollow kraken]

hey guys haven't really been keeping up with the updates but does anyone know if New Zealand and Australia will receive content in the new DLC? It seems quite fitting as they contributed quite alot for their size in that area

[mellow jetty]

Yea you better run!

[sudden grotto]

Australia ye

In the thunder at the gates

Nzl nope

[rustic furnace]

Why does new Zealand need more content

They already have the best focus tree in the game

[hollow kraken]

Hmm

They need more

Why not just remove the uk from the game and put new zealand in its place, ww2 wouldn't have even started because the Germans would've been scared

[lilac mango]

Especially considering its a mythical country and doesn't exist

[rustic furnace]

Exactly

[lilac mango]

Really im tired of guarantees

[midnight shore]

devs should add indochina dlcs

[lilac mango]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-vietnamese-hanoi-vietnam-gif-vietnam-flag-gif-17584712854605581369

[hollow kraken]

New Zealand wouldn't need to grantee anyone because everyone would be scared of them

[drifting skiff]

That peace for our time dlc is kinda a good dlc i see

[drifting skiff]

Fr

[ornate marlin]

someone sum up whats in the new dlc im lazy

[lilac mango]

Nothing worthy

😔

[sudden grotto]

The manchukuo One is already goated

No Need fir changes

[torpid yacht]

Do we get our money back for mtg

[rustic furnace]

Contact steam, they might be able to help

[azure veldt]

No

[torpid yacht]

Alright

[sudden grotto]

Prob not

[atomic grove]

we can play the dlc already?

[rose tartan]

No

🏴‍☠️

[cedar lance]

is it worth to buy the Expansion pass 2

[warped flint]

should i play hoi4 at 3 am

[sudden grotto]

Yes

[rustic furnace]

yes

Hoi4 at all times everyday

Hoi4 is love hoi4 is life

[sudden grotto]

Are those chinese troops?

[rustic furnace]

Italian

[sudden grotto]

What are the Red flags one

[warped flint]

I might reach 1,700 hours today....

[rustic furnace]

Turkey

[sudden grotto]

Beautiful.

[sudden grotto]

Hope to reach 1.8k lol

[sudden grotto]

Cursed flag

[rustic furnace]

My hoi4 hours are unknown

Its either almost 1900 or almost 1800

My steam has been tweakin out my hoi4 hours for months now

[sudden grotto]

Huh??

[sudden grotto]

Oh my too

Sometimes i see 1820

[rustic furnace]

Im just going to say im almost at 1800 since thats the number it shows me when im in game

[warped flint]

I hate how steam does that

[rustic furnace]

Yeah its terrible

It does that to me with every single game

Well im 10 hours away from 1800 hours

[tough panther]

It sucks even moreso that you can't get achievements while offline

[neat kayak]

Did someone buy the expansion pass?

[rustic furnace]

Full encirclement of northern italy

[prisma burrow]

Is gotterdammerung (or what ever it's called) worth it?

[sudden grotto]

Yes

[rustic furnace]

Yes and no

[sudden grotto]

Yesn't

[prisma burrow]

Why not?

[rustic furnace]

Indeed Yesnt

[prisma burrow]

And why yes?

[neat kayak]

The focus trees are goated

[rustic furnace]

Indeed

[neat kayak]

But the raid mechanic and speical it's just more bloat

[sudden grotto]

Thermo nukes go wasteland

[neat kayak]

And yes the focuses are great

[rustic furnace]

I'd say a little expensive

But thats all paradox dlcs

[neat kayak]

And yes a specific nation i am doing main

And it has a focus in ggr

[sudden grotto]

Thats pdx in the whole

[prisma burrow]

So should I get both it and no step back?

[neat kayak]

I wonder what country it is?

[prisma burrow]

Cuz I was planning to get no step back

[neat kayak]

I would say GTG>NSB

[sudden grotto]

Congo obv

[neat kayak]

Bingo

[prisma burrow]

And there's a offer for both

[rustic furnace]

yes

Both are amazing dlcs

[neat kayak]

I love playing the Congo with 2 factories and a lot of debuffs

[prisma burrow]

There's a offer for both

For like 28 euro 😭

[rustic furnace]

When on sale Gotterdammerung and No step back are 100% worth the price

[daring totem]

Its out already?

[sudden grotto]

I love invadinf rwamda and burundi

[neat kayak]

Man the new dlc it's almost 50euros

[prisma burrow]

I know

[sudden grotto]

Only pre order

[prisma burrow]

No step back is my favorite

[sudden grotto]

*expansion pass

[neat kayak]

I think i might buy it separately

[rustic furnace]

Its an expansion pass

[neat kayak]

Mb

[daring totem]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-pirate-captain-ocean-gif-16296042634591047056

[prisma burrow]

Alright thank you guys

Now il spend 28 euros

[neat kayak]

I will buy it if I like the focuses

[rustic furnace]

I'd say these are really good numbers

[neat kayak]

Which the Phillipines are a big hmmmm

[sudden grotto]

Jack Sparrow joined the chat

[sudden grotto]

Just wait for bokoen vids fr fr, they tend to get the dlc before anyones

Well hoi4 ytbers in general

[neat kayak]

I will watch florius and bitt3rsteel

[rustic furnace]

Ill probably end up watching bokoen and isp play the dlc before getting it myself lmao

[neat kayak]

Btw I hope the other 2 content packs won't be a goe 2.0

[urban ivy]

is the new update live?/

[sudden grotto]

I'll probably forget about the dlc and Just enjoy the random shit they do

[urban ivy]

or why did the server change the picture

[rustic furnace]

no

[neat kayak]

Its just an update

Idk when the dd starts

[sudden grotto]

Expansion pass 2 pre order Is out

[neat kayak]

Does someone have the calendar?

[rustic furnace]

November 20th for the actual dlc

[urban ivy]

💀

49$

[sudden grotto]

Reasonable price

[uneven portal]

skull emoji in the big 29...

[sudden grotto]

29?

[uneven portal]

yes

[sudden grotto]

Bro set the calender in 4 bc

[urban ivy]

i like how im saying

that it costs too much

like i aint gona buy it regardless

💀

[uneven portal]

when I already own every other dlc LMAO

[rustic furnace]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[uneven portal]

bro stop

we're about to go into gen charlie and we're still bringing the skull emoji with us?

[urban ivy]

bro 💀

[rustic furnace]

yes 💀

[urban ivy]

no need to get political

[rustic furnace]

I didnt even realize what he said 💀

[uneven portal]

what

[rustic furnace]

More skulls

More skulls, the skull emoji is the best emoji

[uneven portal]

political???

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-emoji-what-hello-flabbergasted-confused-gif-17948163430000042688

[daring totem]

Time to sail the 7 seas

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-pirate-pirates-of-the-carribean-flag-jolly-roger-gif-5875578

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[sudden grotto]

[rose tartan]

https://youtu.be/i8ju_10NkGY?feature=shared

[rustic furnace]

[rustic furnace]

Never seen the full thing lmao

[potent zinc]

1929

[lost parcel]

is siam cooked?

[rustic furnace]

yes

jk

Siam about to solo

[potent zinc]

send this to bittersteel

[misty fossil]

you nailed it 💔

[rustic furnace]

Im sure he can clutch it up

[upper raptor]

Our

[lost parcel]

3 tiles from capitulating

[rustic furnace]

huh

[lost parcel]

theres no saving from this

[rustic furnace]

Its possible

Just uhhh not worth the time and headache

[potent zinc]

just start producing superheavy tanks

and cas

[rustic furnace]

Like id rather play TNO

[potent zinc]

it's just simple

[lost parcel]

germany, one of siam's enemy has 300 military factories and 300 civilian factories and ~400 troops

[upper raptor]

I think yes

Good DLC with enough new mechanics

[paper echo]

hell yeah

[potent zinc]

you could use nuclear bombs

[lost parcel]

siam doesnt have nukes

itd take years to get 1 nuke

if you can succesfully defend for years whilst not losing any tile then you could beat them

even then thats very unlikely

[vocal pumice]

is - manpower conscripted possible and what does it do when it occurs?

(total mob)

[lost parcel]

id guess not

[vocal pumice]

total mob and any conscription below 3

[lapis snow]

it is possible, you just go to zero. Any monthly gain is instantly gone

[vocal pumice]

is monthly gain only thing gone

[versed rapids]

Just turn communist and print men out of the painting

[lapis snow]

huh?

[vocal pumice]

is it suppose to drain all mp

[lapis snow]

that's what I said, yes. The free manpower pool gradually zeroes out. Any deployed manpower stays where it is, you just gain none and can't replace losses

[vocal pumice]

tbh i thought it was gonna be funny but it just built up in lost mp at the end

anyways time to make the schizophrenic army

[rustic furnace]

Exactly

That marx portrait might be the strongest item in all of gaming

[vocal pumice]

saudi arabia does not care for logic, they produce 2 mp a month (from the less then 100 pop provinces)

[cedar lance]

i cant wait to see the Ranger unit and templates in HOI4

[rustic furnace]

Bruh, I might have the most incompetent british ally right now

[vocal pumice]

anyways is there a point in civ pop?

[vocal pumice]

how late game is it

[rustic furnace]

44

late 44

Im honestly going to let them die to the americans

Really could careless

[fair horizon]

Go save him then

[rustic furnace]

nah, let it die let it die let it shrivel up and die

[fair horizon]

The brits have a navy still id assume?

[rustic furnace]

I didnt check lmao

[urban ivy]

rework of military doctrines

f it

[prisma harbor]

kinda makes sense. Feels like without mods the Grand Battleplan and the Mass Assault are the 2 most meta doctrines. GBP for offensive (tho highly depended on either slowly building up the planning bonus or by giving your plans away with the staff planning ability) and MA for defensive infantry spam

i know all the new people get recommended the Superior Firepower because it just works and the Mobile Warfare because it's supposed to be about tanks going brrrt, but they are kinda the least meta ones, just cause MW specialises too much and the SF specialises on nothing (unless you specialise on artillery, which is just wrong due to the attack/org ratio being kinda worse than infantry)

[misty fossil]

who would ever recommend spf

gbp should be the one that "just works"

[prisma harbor]

pretty much everyone tells newbies to go sfp, i am not sure why, but that's the actual trend going on

[misty fossil]

well i purposefully lied to a newbie to go with spf a few days back

there's that

but so far ive only seen people recommending mw and gbp

ma less often but still up there

[prisma harbor]

i often get recommended MA but specifically from the multiplayer meta weirdoes

[kind vale]

When doing operation Alaric is it better to annex or puppet italy?

[misty fossil]

what is it

[prisma harbor]

i usually prefer puppeting countries, you get a portion of the industry anyways and don't have to worry about garrisoning

[misty fossil]

generally puppeting is better than straight up annexing

[kind vale]

I just want the navy and my south be hard to invade

[prisma harbor]

i don't think you'll get the italian navy if you annex them

[kind vale]

You do

[prisma harbor]

it usually only works if you actually get a peace deal

[kind vale]

Theres an option to take it

[kind vale]

They ain't in a faction so I can capitulate them and get a peace deal

[drifting relic]

Kinda need advice here , I am new to the game is this the edition I need to buy ? To play it Fully ??

[prisma harbor]

then you can both puppet and take the navy

[grim merlin]

its just way too overpowered once u get to it

[misty fossil]

no\

[drifting relic]

Then which one

[kind vale]

For all dlc you can or pay 8usd a month for them

[misty fossil]

thats just the way pdx likes to name their bundles.

that bundle only has like 5 dlcs

if you want to play it fully you have to buy the ultimate bundle

by fully i understand you want the complete experience

[drifting relic]

I see

[misty fossil]

is there a sale going on rn

[drifting relic]

Yes bro

[misty fossil]

then buy the ultimate bundle i would say

[prisma harbor]

starting edition is pretty barebones, you get a DLC that they made free and 2 dlcs that are essentially just cosmetics.
Get yourself a one months subscription for all the DLCs, and then think if you want to buy them permanently.
There is a chance you drop the game. It's pretty hard to learn

[drifting relic]

@misty fossil it is the 8$ one

[misty fossil]

wait

[drifting relic]

Yes I totally understand

[misty fossil]

there's a subscription option where you pay a small amount per month for full access

you know what a subscription is right

[drifting relic]

Where is it ???

[drifting relic]

Yes

[drifting relic]

So in this edition I can't play all the countries???

[prisma harbor]

you can buy the license for the base game and then pirate the DLCs separately, it allows you to play the multiplayer through steam without paying for content which (in my opinion) should be free anyways

[misty fossil]

yes and no

[drifting relic]

How much it is per $

[misty fossil]

i dont know

regional pricing exists

check yours

[drifting relic]

Lemme check

[misty fossil]

a few DLCs unlock access to a few nations' contents. otherwise, the base game only has skeleton content for those nations

[drifting relic]

Where did u find that sub option

[misty fossil]

on steam?

[drifting relic]

Yes

[misty fossil]

use a computer bro

steam mobile sucks

[prisma harbor]

you can play all the countries, but some of them won't have the updated focus tree, + you will not gain some important mechanics like the intelligence system or the equipment designers. Some of the DLCs are not that important and can be replaced with mods

[drifting relic]

Yeah I'll go see

[misty fossil]

its literally below the starter pack for me

[kind vale]

I knew italy was weak but why did they crumble so fast

[drifting relic]

I'll come back here once I checked on it

[misty fossil]

the fact that i need to pay for 3d models is crazy

im not even using it for work

they'll make it free anyway...

[fair horizon]

wait the seaplane tender is a model for destroyers???\

[prisma harbor]

yeah they usually just fall over once you get through the Alps, historicaly Mussolini told Hitler that Italy would only be ready for war by 1943

[urban ivy]

austria is lowkey broken

[kind vale]

My germany is very beautiful

[misty fossil]

thats wat they say

[fair horizon]

honestly one of the issues i think with italy is that the royal navy can have way too much presence in the med

[drifting relic]

Brother if I buy the subscription options I'll be able to play all the dlc for one month right???

[fair horizon]

like they dont even bother putting ships over near the east indies

[misty fossil]

correct

its like how you buy a youtube premium subscription

or a netflix subscription

literally the same thing

[kind vale]

If you're able to get the suez and Gibraltar they cant do anything

[drifting relic]

Ohhh I see thank you ❤️

[fair horizon]

yeah except they can dump the entire royal navy in the med and thats like 3x the amount of capitals that italy has just in battleships

[prisma harbor]

yeah sending Rommel to Africa is essentially a gamble with how freely the British can do convoy raids

[misty fossil]

not an issue if you just swing your big naval stick around and sink everyting

simply dont call italy into ww2

[fair horizon]

i dont play italy, yeah if i did i could crumple the royal navy

[misty fossil]

italy is a liability anyway

[misty fossil]

cheers

[kind vale]

I've got so many production lines on capital ships

[fair horizon]

but like look at stuff like operation pedestal, britian lost a lot of ships just to naval bombers

and the convoy BARELY made it to malta

[kind vale]

You just reminded me that I have those

[prisma harbor]

a whole ass carrier lost to THE ITALIANS? Now that's just unbelievable

[fair horizon]

to a lone sub even

[prisma harbor]

how could the royal navy let that happen? horrible stuff

[fair horizon]

meanwhile in game they just shove all their ships in the med blow up the italian navy and then mussolini is cooked

[patent thistle]

change my mind: this focus is useless.

[fair horizon]

i dont think so

not unless you've researched 1940 cruiser

[patent thistle]

i build stuff said there in like 70 days

[kind vale]

I just never have enough artillery

[misty fossil]

i completely agree

that focus is insane

wth

[prisma harbor]

yeah that's definetly not a 140 days worthy focus

[misty fossil]

is that vanilla or modded

[patent thistle]

not worth 140 days for some research

[patent thistle]

vanilla portugal

[misty fossil]

oh that is just sad

[prisma harbor]

honestly, i don't think you need more arty than just a support company for a standart infantry division

[kind vale]

I have infantry and marines with line arty

And they work

Sooooo

[patent thistle]

i am currently doing a test game for an MP game in about a week

[hybrid merlin]

Getting HQs lets GOOOO

[prisma harbor]

that's great, i love adding a bunch of arty for roleplay

[kind vale]

I got light and medium tanks as well but only 8 mediums and 24 lights

[patent thistle]

agreed with the germany player beforehand to split up vichy for some colonies and the french navy

so i simulated that

also yes spain is also on my list

[prisma harbor]

it's generally better to start with light tanks early on and then gradually replace them with mediums or heavies

[fair horizon]

i guess it depends on how much of a navy you got

[kind vale]

My lights are 24 width and the mediums are 36

[fair horizon]

personally i like building 1940 cruisers with over 100 light attack to melt enemy fleets

[patent thistle]

i cant exactly build a giant navy as portugal which is why i am focusing more on a costal fleet and go full in with planes

[fair horizon]

sure you can

you dont need many capitals either

[prisma harbor]

could do some funny stuff like having super fast light tanks (still limited to the truck's 12km/h) and then regular mediums to punch holes in the frontlines

[fair horizon]

which path did you go down?

[patent thistle]

what do you think ofc the monarchy

but again i dont like cruisers

[fair horizon]

ah i went commie last time i played them

[patent thistle]

they seem too easy in my opinion

[fair horizon]

you get to core all of iberia

[patent thistle]

with the monarchy you get brazil

[fair horizon]

yeah i like to make a lot of capitals early and then fill out my ranks with real cruisers

that way you can pump out garbage destroyers to actually die for your cruisers while like 10 of the cruisers is 1500 light attack or some crap

[patent thistle]

i prefer to have cores on brazil and then later take out spain

[fair horizon]

do you get brazil's fleet if you do that?

based

[patent thistle]

there fleet, army and even small airforce

which tbf i just put on the market

[fair horizon]

ah yeah the carrier fighters lmao

[patent thistle]

also i will convert 2 french battleships into carriers to make them more affective

[untold sphinx]

is navy even fun

[fair horizon]

yes

[patent thistle]

its fun to see big number

[untold sphinx]

idk it doesnt look either very useful or fun to me

[patent thistle]

satisfying

[soft shale]

guys anyone knows what this map mod is called? it looks really classic and cool

[fair horizon]

wait until you play a minor that gets attacked by a major naval power like australia vs japan

[sudden grotto]

Vintage map

[patent thistle]

and you win*

[sudden grotto]

Or victoria 2 style

[untold sphinx]

ig then yeah but every other case scenario navy isnt useful

[fair horizon]

navy is very useful

[patent thistle]

.

[fair horizon]

you can cripple nations like japan and britian by just convoy raiding them

[sudden grotto]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3491928466

[untold sphinx]

if you're in europe you can just take britain's navy

then no need to tryhard navy anymore

[soft shale]

this is no where close but thanks for helping!

[fair horizon]

anyone that relies on overseas trade gets destroyed by convoy raiding

[soft shale]

i found this though "Victoria 2 Style Map"

its recent

and its the same

[sudden grotto]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2287823948

[untold sphinx]

why would you convoy raid britain and not just directly invade them

[soft shale]

Yeah thats what i wanted

ty

[sudden grotto]

No prob