hoi4-general

[safe wing]

fun fact: Irish people tried to attack Quebec from my state

[unique cliff]

potat

[safe wing]

after the US civil war

[languid patrol]

or form the celctic union

get clams on scotland, wales, north ireland and britanny

[safe wing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian_raids

USA and UK joined forces to put them down

[round pivot]

its more that by the time you finish all your focuses the game is over

so u cant rlly do much of it before its stupidly late game

[static hare]

I love Holy Roman Empire
Especially when it's actually Holy, Roman, And Empire
My Italy ruled by Pope

[ancient marsh]

That sucks

[zinc rune]

Wow a dlc that only adds focuses to one country and doesnt introduce any new mechanic

[safe wing]

yes it does

and that was for one purchase too

[static hare]

Which one are u talking about 😭

[safe wing]

the Czech one

[zinc rune]

Czech one

[safe wing]

which I honestly find unintresting

[bright arrow]

There aren't any

[patent thistle]

still needs a carrier or 2 in my opinion

[static hare]

The Czech are going to have DLC? Or ur talking about the old one

[bright arrow]

They are called country expansions

Dlcs always have mechanics

[fair horizon]

Did you build some bbs?

[ancient marsh]

Im sorry that happened but what’s the point

like specifically in regards to hoi4 dlcs

[safe wing]

my point is I generally know what its like to be scammed

this happend from 2017-2019

[patent thistle]

2 build by me and 2 brazilians

which i got from the unification focus

[ancient marsh]

do you feel like you get scammed every paradox dlc drop

[safe wing]

no?

because I actually get something instead of just dust

[ancient marsh]

they aren’t literal scams no one is saying that

just that they’re overcharging

[safe wing]

ye IK

[bright arrow]

Pov, a portuguese plays brazil

[safe wing]

true

[ancient marsh]

this should all be free content tbh but at the bare minimum minor dlc shouldn’t cost half as much as the base game

[safe wing]

agreed

[patent thistle]

i am not a portuguese

[fair horizon]

make more bahia cruisers

[patent thistle]

dont have the designs

also this is mostly just practice for some MP soon with some friends

[ancient marsh]

and the excuse that “it’s just $20” is a terrible one that doesn’t factor in people’s expenses, incomes, and just the general value of the product

[pure cape]

did they already intergate Man The Guns dlc?

[safe wing]

uh huh do you wanna know a rule I have

[ancient marsh]

saying this is okay supports predatory practice, if you think it’s bad but still buy it then that’s fair because no one else wants to stop buying it

[safe wing]

I generally do not care for most people on the planet

[fair horizon]

"its predatory because i dont like the price"

[hybrid flare]

is the expansion pass supposed to be 48 dollars

[safe wing]

like I'm gonna be brutally honest I would have made a fine general

unless the people are close friends or family

you're on your own

[unique cliff]

^yeah

[trail zinc]

Why we getting dlc around just czechoslovakia?????!?!??!?!?!?!?

[unique cliff]

are we?

[trail zinc]

yes

[unique cliff]

can i read that on steam?

[trail zinc]

''Peace For Our Time''

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3757310/Focus_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Peace_For_Our_Time/

Steam

Focus Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Peace For Our Time

The Allied betrayal of Czechoslovakia at Munich and the later German annexation of that country is a key moment in the historical march towards World War II in Europe. But imagine a world where the White Lion of Prague was prepared to face German aggression - bravery in the face of oppression. Explore that scenario in Peace for Our Time, a new F…

Price

$48.77

Release Date

Q2 2026

I bet its gonna be basically the same

[serene token]

I ain't gonna pay 50 for it.

[mint adder]

Didn’t really follow dev diares; what will the free update have, other than the integration of MtG?

[humble wing]

Dont know

Just that i guess?

[safe wing]

Historical Japan

[mint adder]

48???? WITH THAT YOU CAN BUY VANILLA HOI4

[safe wing]

as per usual

[mint adder]

What about china?

[safe wing]

unsure

[humble wing]

Will get a rework

And new warlords

[mint adder]

I do expect the energy and faction rework to be included in the free update

[mint adder]

Ik

[humble wing]

Like shandong, guangdong, a breakup of xobei san ma and a Northwest hebei army under japan with a hebei army as a warlord

Basically you know the Hagakure mod

?

Those warlords in base hoi4

Simple

It was seen in the content of the expansion pass video

[fair horizon]

chat is this too expensive?

[humble wing]

Tò me It seems good but i know shit about navy

[fair horizon]

its 48 for the expansion pass not just the czech dlc

[humble wing]

The czech isnt known as a price yet

[mint adder]

Nah it’s worth the deck size i guess

[frank igloo]

Did the warlords get an updated focus tree?

[humble wing]

But still fu---ing hell Just put Siam australi and indonesia with china and japan so It Is less shit

[humble wing]

And so It Is cheaper too

[mint adder]

Oh

[languid patrol]

whats peace for our time

it got a lion

[fair horizon]

the czech dlc lmao

[mint adder]

Czechia dlc

[languid patrol]

oh

[humble wing]

Not yet but Will in no compromises no surrender dlc

[languid patrol]

i want more surredners and comproamises in the game

[pallid niche]

how i play

[languid patrol]

too many word wars start too quickylt

[zinc light]

okay so 'll never get a single achievement, aight
the weekly save is obnoxiously annoying

[languid patrol]

i want a tiny island but i must land my troops in new york

[languid patrol]

dont

[safe wing]

why did you leave it at that settings

[humble wing]

Slava ceska republika type shit

[mint adder]

dont

Trust me

[zinc light]

you can't change it?

[pallid niche]

wow

it's that wild

[safe wing]

you can

[mint adder]

Yes

[languid patrol]

u can

[zinc light]

where

[humble wing]

Uk It Is a fun game Just...hell During sometimes

[fallow grove]

Imagine using what a mod does to Czechia and sell it as dlc

😭

[safe wing]

game button

[pallid niche]

i played uk and the navy makes 0 sense

[humble wing]

@pallid niche i call ypu uk because you have uk in image

[zinc light]

yes, that is for NON-IRONMAN games

[pallid niche]

fair enough

[humble wing]

Yea uk...navy Is hard

[safe wing]

last time I checked no

[zinc light]

then check again

[safe wing]

I did and its not

[humble wing]

I had the DLC for 7months and i didnt understand shit so It Is fair enough you dont too UK

[zinc light]

you just checked..?

that wasnt even 5 seconds

[safe wing]

yeah I did

[mint adder]

Its paradox what do u expect

[fair horizon]

navy is ez

[pallid niche]

nah

[humble wing]

Mate the hell you Say? It Is bullsh-t

[mint adder]

Hoi4 is easier thwn it looks like

[zinc light]

bro
boot up an ironman game and tell me it dont save every week just because you set that slider to yearly

[fair horizon]

i figured out navy before i figured out ground combat

[mint adder]

Just play it enough

[safe wing]

why don't you do it

[mint adder]

And search tips

[pallid niche]

dang

[safe wing]

because I'm kinda getting sick being nice

[zinc light]

I just played an hour with it...

[humble wing]

Hard as fu--ing na--s rolling over moscow and stalingrad

[zinc light]

dude youre ragebaiting

[fair horizon]

i was trying to push mountains with 9/1s before long after i figured out how to dominate the oceans

[safe wing]

you wish

[zinc light]

that setting does not modify ironman save intervals

[mint adder]

Is it true that hoi4 is the easiest from all pdx games?

[ripe slate]

no

[fair horizon]

try stellaris

[ripe slate]

CK III is easier and they say Stellaris is too

[west hare]

That is for this, China, Japan, South East Asia and Australia combined

[safe wing]

until you can think critically I'm gonna block you

[zinc light]

how confidently wrong one can be...

[fair horizon]

ck3 is the hardest one ive played because no game causes you to lose so fast if you make even a single mistake

[humble wing]

By the way they should add for china a "revive the boxer fire" Path for the boxer insurection of 1900

[foggy tendon]

How to avoid a civil war?

[ripe slate]

@fair horizonThats basically earrape so imma delete that

[humble wing]

More than 0% stability i think

[fair horizon]

wat

[mint adder]

As who

[tired crypt]

did anyone else notice this typo LOL

[foggy tendon]

Italy

[pallid niche]

I came from RoN

[humble wing]

Yea no you can't

If you got It from invasion of allies

[mint adder]

The roblox one?

[humble wing]

Then no

[pallid niche]

yes.........

[mint adder]

Oh cool

[foggy tendon]

Well how do I stop it?

Are you able to use violence?

[humble wing]

Just dont get them in your terriotory

I dont know how since i never get It tò happen since i Just capitulate because I am scheisse in game

Except with minors

With majors yes minors no

[green moss]

wtf

71 Indian battalions in one city

[lone sail]

Germany should do the Anschluss path again irl

[foggy tendon]

So I can use violence? But I don't wanna kill my own citizens.

[mint adder]

Am i crazy or this looks like AI

[lone sail]

Osterreich ist Deutsch

[mint adder]

Im prob crazy

[lone sail]

It kinda does

[humble wing]

F-ck them

Italians are shit and i am and italian saying it

[green moss]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck

If it looks like AI, feels like AI, then it probably is an AI

[mint adder]

U italian too?

[fair horizon]

CHAT NOBODY TOLD ME THE ICE CARRIERS WERE SLOW AF

[humble wing]

Yea

[foggy tendon]

What if the enemy funds them?

[mint adder]

Me too

[foggy tendon]

And they grow up in numbers.

And then take over my government.

[humble wing]

Nuke them

Just nuke them

Easy

Do Japan type shit Just not on hiroshima or nagasaki but on milan and florence

See how they will want to revolt

After you kill them

[fair horizon]

bro mussolini is taking a shower

[tame copper]

One focustree

[wanton whale]

+0.2 Daily PP

[tame copper]

One focustree

What will the price be?

[zinc light]

nah who put Charlie in charge of the USA

[foggy tendon]

And if the enemies take advantage of that?

I'm already at war with 4 countries.

[finite plume]

Why is France unchanged 😭

[zinc light]

one cannot change what is already imperfect

[finite plume]

🥀 Even the UK?

[dense citrus]

why the hell did they accept that 😭

[fair horizon]

chat rate the cruiser

[finite plume]

I think

It floats

On water

[fair horizon]

wrong

[zinc light]

it submerges?

[fair horizon]

it exists in a quantum state until observed

[finite plume]

He took Cruiser Submarine too literal

[green moss]

is this tuff?

[sudden grotto]

Thats some heavy disrespect for the young man

[zinc light]

can anyone give a 2nd opinion on that? I just left the game, checked files through steam, set the interval in the options to half-year and it still does it weekly

[sudden grotto]

Super tuff

[green moss]

oh and I rushed AI development

[sudden grotto]

Hmm?

Wdym

[zinc light]

when I play Ironman it saves every single week

[sudden grotto]

Change It in options

The autosave

[zinc light]

I tried that

I set it like that

start up a random game

[sudden grotto]

Huh

[zinc light]

first save is done on jan 8th

[sudden grotto]

I put It 6 months

[zinc light]

1 month is still much more than 1 week tho

[sudden grotto]

Thats Just an Ironman thing i think

So that you wont exploit the game

[zinc light]

so you cannot change it?

[sudden grotto]

Its Ironman

So

[zinc light]

that's a bummer
I'm not gonna sit through an autosave every 15 seconds of playtime

[sudden grotto]

It would be Easy lol if you put interval in a year and while gaming you fked up something you could Just alt f4 and restart

So thats a way to prevent this cheat

[zinc light]

I mean Stellaris figured it out without pausing the game every other second

[sudden grotto]

Why so long? 💀

[zinc light]

I get it, but there has to be a better way of doing it

[zinc light]

huh

[sudden grotto]

How long does the autosave take lol

It cant be that annoying cmon lol

[zinc light]

it's interrupting the game every 15 seconds
so yeah, very annoying to me

it's like a child poking your ribs every 15 seconds

[sudden grotto]

Why would a child do that lol

Top 5 asmr

[zinc light]

fam never had any contact with children 💔

[fair horizon]

biblically accurate poland

[sudden grotto]

"childrens? Ewww what are those"

[sudden grotto]

*belgium

[fair horizon]

ew no

ill remove them when i get out of southeast asia

[honest vale]

guys i just made the best hoi4 encirclement of my life

[maiden solstice]

they should rename china to republic of china

[brittle cypress]

They don’t include titles like that

See France is not “Republic of France”

Or “third French Republic”

[gaunt locust]

third republic of

dang

beat me to it

aw man

[bright arrow]

Honestly agree

The whole thing about the Kmt is that they were The Republic of China

Cuz Chinas there were many

[peak lance]

Amazing review

Bro 47 euros for the all the expansions and you scam me out of man the guns

[merry kiln]

I learned my lesson last time

[peak lance]

How's this even legal

[merry kiln]

Not pre ordering anything

[merry kiln]

It’s incredibly scummy

[sharp sierra]

i took out a loan for it

[peak lance]

And the Czechoslovakia tree isn't even paradox making it

Lmao

[peak lance]

Financing hoi4 dlc with klarna

Imagine

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/antennae-ants-long-live-the-queen-mandibles-meeting-gif-22411350

[peak lance]

Hoi4 dlc with 3 monthly payments

[sharp sierra]

50 payments of 1 dollar every month

[fair horizon]

look at this massive pile of crap

[peak lance]

Tf is that

[fair horizon]

pykrete carrier

habakkuk

can launch regular planes

[peak lance]

Never researched it

[sharp sierra]

one of those swirls of trash that gravitates into a clump in the middle of the ocean

[fair horizon]

doesnt need to be carrier based plane s

[peak lance]

I find special projects incredibly useless with how long they take to aquire

[fair horizon]

yeah im playing rt56 so its actually usable

[peak lance]

I sometimes wonder how I managed to reach 1.4 k hours on hoi4

[sharp sierra]

we really played 1k+ hours of this broken cow shit

[peak lance]

It seems the year after a good dlc paradox just forgets how to develop it's game I believe this expansion will be a flop

[sharp sierra]

part of me hopes that it is so they can maybe learn something this time

[peak lance]

Like we got la resistance that was crap then we got no step back that was good then we got by blood alone horrible only thing saved it was Italy focus tree then arms against tyranny

Like you see the cycle

[peak lance]

That's what I love about it

Honestly what pisses me off is how useless the axis ai has become

If you ever play a minor axis country you can never trust the ai

Never ever

[spice turtle]

Gauging interest for a WW1 multiplayer game, is that something that ever really happens on this server? Would people be interested?

[peak lance]

Italy can never protect it's ports and Germany will never send assistance

[sharp sierra]

the fact they already have cosmetic packs and shit lined up to be released with this is a terrible look

[spice turtle]

yup, oh look you get 3 seaplane tenders if you buy it early, great...

they didnt even mention new zealand either like how hard is it to update that tree?

[peak lance]

Hell they can't even defend their own ports what I see the UK ai do is naval invade northern Netherlands push to Amsterdam then put like 24 divisions per tile and just stand there

Never push

[sharp sierra]

for 48 dollars there should be a lot god damn more than what were seeing

[peak lance]

I love the ai in this game

[spice turtle]

mods put more effort in than the real devs

no wonder they hired 3 rt56 devs for czechoslovakia

[random delta]

i finally did it

[peak lance]

Bro did starbreeze hire paradox devs why TF did they put a dlc subscription in payday 2

12 year game

[sharp sierra]

was that for payday 2 or 3

[peak lance]

2

3 is dead

[sharp sierra]

hm yea

[drifting grove]

Wait wait wait. Theyre charging for new ship models?? Again?? They did this already pre mtg

[sharp sierra]

but that company probably none of the original pd2 devs are there still

[peak lance]

Man I ain't pre ordering this crap I'll wait until they get made fun of on every platform

Paradox is still on fraudwatch after graveyard of empires

[drifting grove]

Also wait, were getting a chain of command? Like hou3

[atomic spoke]

why the f they are so strong

[sudden grotto]

They aint?

You are Just getting debuffs

River + no supply + terrain

Lol

[atomic spoke]

what tipe of debufs make 15 full strenght mech divs not being able to take 3 inf divs

[honest night]

Recommend you look into ffu2

[drifting skiff]

Yo

Whats the expansion pass?

I NEED TO SEE IT

[sharp sierra]

probablh some bull shit

[honest night]

Mech divs are better to hold than push

[naive wraith]

any of you know about millenium dawn and can help me rq

[fair horizon]

terrain, supply, planes, breakthrough

[sharp sierra]

yea

[sudden grotto]

Focus tree for Japan, commie china, china, philippines, Siam, Indonesia, Australia and czech, plus some cosmetic things and some mechanicss

[sharp sierra]

sorry i dont actually know abt millenial dawn

[naive wraith]

uhm

[drifting skiff]

Is it good?

[naive wraith]

why did you say yea then

[sudden grotto]

Depends by how you see it

[drifting skiff]

Hmm

I never played asian countries

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/stands-online-gif-21404429

[sudden grotto]

Not even china once?

They are fun

[nocturne finch]

i treat hoi4 as a sandbox game because i am incredibly impatient

[jovial carbon]

is uk gonna get a dlv

dlc

[sudden grotto]

I treat hoi4 like its my son, so locked up and forgotten into the basement

[drifting skiff]

What Ideal dlc you guys want to come?

[fair horizon]

BEHOLD THE NZ CARRIER

[graceful iris]

When reworked USA focus tree

[nocturne finch]

us focus tree rework

[fair horizon]

Its so crap i love it

[drifting skiff]

Awatea☕️

[untold sphinx]

very cool

[sudden grotto]

Any Is good

[paper echo]

a dlc that reworks usa and also makes french unhistorical paths better

[bright arrow]

At least it goes somewhere

[fair horizon]

Its literally useless

even if it had a secondary battery it would do exactly nothing

[atomic spoke]

managed

[fair horizon]

its not even worth refitting

[sharp sierra]

how much supremacy does it give

[sharp sierra]

m not that good

[fair horizon]

my scouting cruiser

[sharp sierra]

how much does a normal battleship give

i wonder

[fair horizon]

i only have my 1940 ones but i can check

1940 carrier

[pale stream]

An actually good Commonwealth DLC

[fair horizon]

good news, they're doing an australia one :D

[pale stream]

I want Canada :V

[fair horizon]

too bad

[pale stream]

Also UK has a very outdated tree

And Yugoslavia

And Romania

I'm really hyped for the Japanese rework

[bright arrow]

Uk tree is at least somewhat acceptable

[silk fern]

im exited to play japan, but i dont want 50 warlord states lagging my game even more

[bright arrow]

Romania and Yugoslavia are super Ancient

[pale stream]

I mean, it was a major power and even fought the war nearly alone for the first part

It deserves a Germany-sized tree

[shell whale]

Yugoslavia has a ton of potential to be well made

[pale stream]

Another thing that should be in hoi4 is at least a tiny bit more of mandatory Palestine

[fair horizon]

could this even do anything?

[silk fern]

the last time they did a middle east dlc it sucked, i hope they dont try again

[fair horizon]

im not sure how overstacking works but it shouldnt do anything right?

[pale stream]

Yeah, every time that I get obsolete tiny carriers I just put them into my escort fleet and rebrand them into CVEs

They're good against submarines

[fair horizon]

even with zero deck space?

[pale stream]

Oh

It has zero deck space

[sharp sierra]

i dont think he looked at the screenshot 💀

[pale stream]

Then it won't do anything

[pale stream]

I quickly looked at it and didn't notice the red number

You could put a hangar on it

How much could a refit cost

[fair horizon]

takes too much to refit

as much as a new carrier

[bright arrow]

Its a damage soaker

[fair horizon]

over half of a 1940 one too

[fair horizon]

from what? if properly screened it'll never be hit

[pale stream]

put it in your escort fleet and just let it swim

Or idk use it for ceremonial purposes

[pale stream]

It could attract enemies

Big ships get spotted easily and once you get spotted with a weak fleet, the enemy might try to attsck

I did that once with a few obsolete battleships

Let them swim until something finds them and then send in your main force

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/caddyshack-candy-bar-turd-floater-floating-gif-22449727

[pale stream]

Or use it as a decoy when naval invading

Send it first and check if submarines go for it

[bright arrow]

Its always more useful than ai lend lease planes

[fair horizon]

i got a pykrete carrier and its not like i patrol with my fleet

[pale stream]

Them you'd avoid loosing convoys

[bright arrow]

With 0 guns or bombs

[serene token]

Hydrogen baby vs coughing bomb.

[pale stream]

Ice carriers would be so cool if they didn't swim at the speed of a damn rowboat

[plucky drift]

Do you really have to pay 40 dollars to play the new content? You can’t buy it separately?

[pale stream]

You will be able to, once it releases

You can pre order the entire pack now

Or buy seperate stuff later

[bright arrow]

It will likely be 25$

[fair horizon]

okay so i looked into it, it might be able to launch a single plane if i overstack

[nimble hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-dats-what-i-woulda-gif-18253305946678612829

[plucky drift]

Okay perfect thanks guys

[pale stream]

Really?

[sharp sierra]

what if you stack 1 million planes on it

[bright arrow]

Sorry i meant €

[pale stream]

or you could allow the AI to capture it and then sink it once it's in their hands to boost your morale

[pale stream]

Overstacking airfields works by allowing you to launch less planes

So less efficiency

[sharp sierra]

yea so what if theres 1 million of them

[pale stream]

More planes won't fix it

[fair horizon]

well from a very limited understanding of how sortie efficiency and overstacking works the higher your sortie efficiency = more planes launched total

[pale stream]

0 (the max capacity) will be able to launch with a huge efficiency debuff

[fair horizon]

so without acutally doing the math i calculated it might be able to launch a single plane

we're gonna find out anyways

[sharp sierra]

give yourself 1 million planes

and put it on the boat

[pale stream]

Destroyed airfields (with 0 capacity) can't launch planes as well

[fair horizon]

it says its full when it has no planes

you poor carrier, what did those evil new zealanders do to you

[pale stream]

Or even allow them to capture it and then recapture it in the peace deal

[fallen vigil]

guys im kinda cooked as austria will anti air save my ass

like if i build level 5 anti air

am i good

[pale stream]

No 👍

Depends on your situation tho

It could cause losses to the attacking airforce

[untold sphinx]

11 month difference, nerf germany

[fair horizon]

chat what does this do?

[sharp sierra]

it gives state bonuses by the time you dont need them

[fair horizon]

like more building slots?

[pale stream]

No

[fair horizon]

oh :/

[untold sphinx]

special projects is propaganda

dont do anything except flame tank

[sharp sierra]

yea remove them from the game pls

shits so stupid and annoying actually just let me research the thing i want

[pale stream]

You know that you can nerf Germany yourself?

Just buff the AI to 100%, turn on veteran and try again

[untold sphinx]

the hell is this

[sharp sierra]

same with raids ive never used them once after the update

[pale stream]

The new content

[untold sphinx]

true itll be harder but still doable by 42

[meager valley]

New doctrine system

[untold sphinx]

lmao same but when i get raided by britian all my ressources just vanish

[pale stream]

Then get a mod to nerf you even more

[untold sphinx]

uhhhhh is this in the new dlc

[pale stream]

Or just don't do the meta

[untold sphinx]

is this the meta (kinda)

[pale stream]

I mean... it has very high HP so you can just throw it at the enemy until they break

Is this for mass assault

[shell whale]

wait did new videos drop

[untold sphinx]

i pop 200 of these with mass assault and battleplan

[slim nexus]

Whens the dlc coming out

[pale stream]

Yeah the content reveal video

[untold sphinx]

whens it coming out

[pale stream]

a few weeks

[pale stream]

No wonder you're winning so easily lol

I don't really find mass assault thst fun

It's silly for the first few times when you push the entire front with no effort

But then it gets boring

[sudden grotto]

20 november

[sharp sierra]

id be fine with it coming out in january or something if that means it wont be dookie

[pale stream]

Rn it looks pretty solid

[untold sphinx]

u can even naval invade with those

[slim nexus]

Oh crap they modeled the great wall of china

Kinda cool

[pale stream]

I prefer my 40W amtrac amphibious modern tanks :3

[sharp sierra]

immediately promoting cosmetic packs isnt a good look tho

[pale stream]

eh they always do that

Just don't buy cosmetic packs

[pale stream]

They obliterate anything in all my lategame hyperwars

[sharp sierra]

wdym bro i have to buy everything that paradox releases including the shah plushie they released with their half baked dogshit middle eastern dlc

[untold sphinx]

40 width...?

[pale stream]

Yes

[untold sphinx]

can u even make more than 5 of these whitout abusing the game mechanics

[pale stream]

.

[pale stream]

In the 1960s, sure

[untold sphinx]

lmao

i just do the special forces cap glitch usually

[pale stream]

But it's so satisfying when you can just walk across rivers

[sharp sierra]

modern tanks 💀

[untold sphinx]

but its not fun

[pale stream]

i play with UTTNH

[sharp sierra]

wats that

[slim nexus]

inter war tanks are the meta if u dont wanna research and dontr have the heavy tank researched

[pale stream]

Ultimate tech tree new horizon

[slim nexus]

or medium

[pale stream]

Expands the content to the 90s

[slim nexus]

especially for medium

[sharp sierra]

i bet interwar medium still better

[pale stream]

👍

[untold sphinx]

how is late game fun genuinely

every game after 43 gets painfully boring

[slim nexus]

Nooo

Why does the expansion change the doctrine

[pale stream]

Not everyone likes it

[slim nexus]

Now i need to spend a couple hours learning the meta

[sharp sierra]

i like the late game personally when i have to fight off hordes and hordes of allied units

[pale stream]

But seeing casualties with a letter B following them is the most satisfying thing one can achieve

[untold sphinx]

in europe yeah

anywhere else is just extremely boring

[slim nexus]

Nvm

Its so good

Indonesian and siamese focus tree

[pale stream]

I had a hyperwar in 1970s between Japan (me), US (a friend) and buffed USSR + China in my most recent game

Every tile needed a nuke

They stacked entire armies

[slim nexus]

Nukes need a buff

[pale stream]

They're tactical nukes

They're already strong enough

You can cause a Frontwide collapse with a few thermonuclear bombs

They damage divisions so much

[sharp sierra]

i havent built a nuke since the update

[untold sphinx]

havent built a nuke ever

[sharp sierra]

so stupid to get now

any time it could have been useful ive already won by the time i get easy to launch nukes

[untold sphinx]

idk to me its just a bunch of annoying special projects and gotta wait a billion years for something not even that good

[leaden rover]

if you nuke a country the surrender limit should increase

[craggy night]

Furry typing this

[untold sphinx]

hollowskulled ape

DNI those type of people

[sudden thistle]

bruh

god forbid i have fun

[pale stream]

I kinda miss my old nuke button

[leaden rover]

if they bring up your tag you've won whatever argument you were having

[raven horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/terry-reaction-templeos-terry-davis-gif-12527174332552265625

ummmm

[pale stream]

Skip to 1:00

[leaden rover]

why are you playing as liechtenstein

[pale stream]

It was a challenge run

[icy crescent]

I agree that the old nukes were easier and faster to click.
But I suppose it's more fun from a multiplayer perspective, when you see a big bomber approaching your nation.

[raven horizon]

wow

[leaden rover]

is it even in the base game

[pale stream]

HRE as Liechtenstein (no paratroopers)

[pale stream]

Road to 56

[leaden rover]

oh

[pale stream]

Beautiful

[last radish]

as an Irishman..

im so proud

[leaden rover]

why would you do that

[last radish]

good job

[icy crescent]

Proof, that only the Scots are good poeple.

[leaden rover]

i cant even cap belgium as germany

[raven horizon]

i am British 🙁

[last radish]

dww im joking

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/he-deserved-it-didintt-he-he-deserved-it-he-deserved-it-didintt-he-spiderman3-he-deserved-it-spiderman3-he-deserved-it-spiderman-gif-24196740

[pale stream]

A road to 56 dev challenged me

[last radish]

i love the brits

[sudden thistle]

what is their plan here

[icy crescent]

Do you have units?
Did you give them guns?
It's probably the only thing you have to do.

[last radish]

not their past or gov tho

[raven horizon]

yep

[pale stream]

Yeah

[leaden rover]

i had too much medium tanks and i ran out of oil

[last radish]

if the earth is scorched then what about frozen earth?

freeze dry every material till they're useless

[raven horizon]

dont live uk anymore

[last radish]

[icy crescent]

Yeah, don't go overboard with planes and tanks early game.
Unless you can guarantee oil import.
They drink much.

[pale stream]

Probably a surrender

[fair horizon]

import romanian oil

[icy crescent]

Or Iranian.

[pale stream]

Or do Infantry only

[fair horizon]

or pull a flex move and import american oil

[last radish]

wish ireland had an actual expansion with missions and such

instead of me

relying of kaiserreich

for my ireland playthrough

[pale stream]

nah just play with mods

[leaden rover]

one single embargo is all it takes

[icy crescent]

Yeah, the Celtic Union as decision would be enough to upgrade the Irish for me.

[last radish]

not js that

there's the anglo irish trade war

the constitution in 1937

[meager valley]

Yes

[last radish]

etc etc

ireland in the 1930s was acc really interesting

we called ww2 "the emergency"

like if there was an option to join the Allies for Northern Ireland and such like accepting churchills deal etc etc

id pay anything

4 that

the erin go bragh / ireland expanded mods are kinda short and outdated w no real missions and such

[icy crescent]

And you can actually justifying an Ireland focustree.
There was the one interaction with the UK, where Ireland would get back Northern Ireland, if they join the war against the Axis.
They declined tho to protect their neutrality.

[slim nexus]

Irelands getting a tree?

[icy crescent]

No, but it is an idea.

And not tooooo far fetched.

[slim nexus]

Not much to do with ireland tbh

And im saying that as a scottish person

[ripe quail]

yes there is

[slim nexus]

Such as

[ripe quail]

make irish tank/mech divs for dday and give them research boosts

[meager valley]

“Yay we got Northern Ireland and released Scotland”

[slim nexus]

Not really

Thats possible for every country

[ripe quail]

and get an option for stockpile deposits from the US/UK

[slim nexus]

So using your logic we could get a focus tree for liberia

[ripe quail]

like what bulgaria gets

yes

[slim nexus]

Ok

Any other points other than it being a general country with expansion

[ripe quail]

more expansions for MP

i mean im just an MP supporter

[slim nexus]

Do you think paradox seriously cares about mp

So am i

Its a majority of my hours

[ripe quail]

no but im going to advocate for it when i can

regardless if devs care or not

hence why we have so many mods

[slim nexus]

I would love and ireland focusw tree dont get me wrong but its incredibly unrealistic, especially now with the expansion pack

We could have to wait until 2027 or late 2026 for new dlcs

[zinc light]

I've retried Ethiopia
it's getting late and I'll head to bed, but I seem to be able to hold much better, and have a bigger grasp on the gameplay

[untold sphinx]

Fascist ireland go in the axis and paratroop france 😑😑😑😑

[zinc light]

Fascist Ireland gets overrun from northern ireland ^^

[slim nexus]

Ireland has no room for expansion othger than the uk, really

[icy crescent]

Fascists Ireland
CELTS.

[slim nexus]

And if youre talking from a mp point of view

Then thats just unrealistic

Well

[untold sphinx]

Ireland would just be boring

[ornate geode]

gg guys

nato said they will declare war on russia

[slim nexus]

UK and france

[untold sphinx]

no

[slim nexus]

Propoganda

[zinc light]

see ya on the front!

[ornate geode]

🥹🥹🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[slim nexus]

Give me a source

[untold sphinx]

its fake

[icy crescent]

NATO is technically a defensive group.

[slim nexus]

Surprise

[untold sphinx]

it would be a good thing

[ornate geode]

i hope we all day

[slim nexus]

???

[ornate geode]

the worlds sucks already

[untold sphinx]

russia would get absolutely destroyed

[icy crescent]

Nukes scary tho.

[untold sphinx]

no one will use nukes

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-nti-nuclear-threat-initiative-corrieliotta-war-gif-25897665

[untold sphinx]

like actual nukes

[slim nexus]

Do you seriously think the russian hierarchy is mentally stable enough for their country to capitulate and be balkanized without launching a last ditch nuke

Because i dont

If youre trusting the fate of the world with the russians then youre screwed

[untold sphinx]

i do but i think they wont actually launch an atomic bomb

[slim nexus]

Youre delusional then

[ornate geode]

this is all trumps fault icl

[untold sphinx]

like maybe smaller nuclear weapons

[slim nexus]

Dude

Theres no way youre being fr

[zinc light]

why balkanize em? finland gets that weird peninsula, Kaliningrad either becomes independent or is absorbed into poland, and then we leave the rest

[slim nexus]

They have no reason to not launch a nuke

[untold sphinx]

europe would already be in moscow before they could launch one lmfaoooo 😂😂😂😂😂

[slim nexus]

Im pretty sure its even in their nuclear doctrine

[zinc light]

• if: lose
• dont

[ripe quail]

history contradicts that notion though

[icy crescent]

Getting hit by a nuke is bad.
It's like -20% Stability and reduces surrender limit.
Gotta watch out for that.
Good thing that the KI doesn't use nukes that often.

[ornate geode]

if we will die together, rate my pic

[zinc light]

we've tried multiple times...

[untold sphinx]

8

[ripe quail]

the US had an entire mapping of Russia during the Soviet period that would essentially decimate the entirety of their nuclear capabilities before they could even launch nukes from their airspace

that hasn't changed

[untold sphinx]

russia is weaker than its ever been aym

atm

[slim nexus]

Do you think if russia was on the brink of capitulation and they threatened to end the world if they didnt get a white peace or land, nato would continue to fight?

[zinc light]

I smell propaganda

[ripe quail]

its truth search it up

[slim nexus]

Soviets also had radars

[icy crescent]

I mean, yeah.
The 4 weeks war turned into 4 years.
Somehow.

[zinc light]

like I wont deny that russia is the bad guy here, but I'm quite certain they wont just raise their hands and not launch nukes

[ripe quail]

but nothing happened

[untold sphinx]

CIA would dismantle their government anyway if that was accepted

[ripe quail]

lmao

[ornate geode]

do you support russia or nato?
Nato ✅
Russia 🔥

[slim nexus]

No they would probbaly be COMMENDED for saving the world

[slim nexus]

NATO but im being realistic

[untold sphinx]

wheres the EU button

[frank igloo]

@icy crescent thought your pfp was popularmmos

[frank igloo]

🇹🇼

[ripe quail]

you're telling me that after a 45 year period of nuclear threat that dissipated in 91' it's going to happen within a 5-10 year period? That's a ludicrous take

[frank igloo]

sanmin zhuyi wansui

[untold sphinx]

make america great (britain) again

[icy crescent]

Thank you.
I have no clue, what it means.

[zinc light]

make america european again

[ripe quail]

just look at cuba in 62

[frank igloo]

NO POLITICS

[slim nexus]

In this hypothetical scenario, its incredibly likely that russia would threat or launch a nuclear bomb for peace treaty leverage.

[ornate geode]

shut up

[slim nexus]

Militarily, they would lose

[ripe quail]

key word threat

[slim nexus]

Key word threat indeed

[ornate geode]

everyone lets execute dj bear

[ripe quail]

it'll never happen

[compact galleon]

hey somebudy up to play ?

[zinc light]

agreed

[slim nexus]

It can and would

[zinc light]

he killing the vibe

[icy crescent]

#off-topic message
@ornate geode

This you?

[ornate geode]

im not racist but ok

[slim nexus]

I can smell a moderator

[ripe quail]

but it wont because a full scale nato invasion of

russia will never occur

boots on the ground is irrelevant now

[icy crescent]

Nah, back to HOI then.

[ripe quail]

a near peer war hasn't happened since ww2

[zinc light]

HOI1?

[slim nexus]

Its quite simple

[icy crescent]

Oh no.

[restive estuary]

when is the dlc release

[ornate geode]

hop on hurt of ions

[zinc light]

hop on harm on interstate

[untold sphinx]

to bring down russia i fear it is

[ornate geode]

ok

[zinc light]

no

[untold sphinx]

uk and france alone could take on russia tho lol its not likr its a big deal

[slim nexus]

Russias nucler doctrine is as follows:
If Russia (or its allies) is attacked with nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction.

If Russia faces a conventional attack that threatens the very existence of the state.

[ripe quail]

we brought down the soviets due to their own ignorance and stupidity

[slim nexus]

Now

[restive estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[ripe quail]

nothing has changed

[slim nexus]

The threat of their state would be imminent

[ornate geode]

we should all just say stop to russia and it will work

[untold sphinx]

so were acting like todays russia is as fragile as the soviets in the 80s

[ripe quail]

it is

[slim nexus]

As a peace treaty would dissolve the russian federation

[untold sphinx]

I fear not

[ripe quail]

thats an objective fact

[slim nexus]

Their nuclear doctrine allows a nuclear launch

[ornate geode]

i should be the next russian president

[slim nexus]

In that scenario

[zinc light]

why would that be a necessity?

[umbral agate]

am i cooked

[ornate geode]

everyone vote for me

[twin snow]

should I buy the bundle?

[slim nexus]

To ensure nobody opposes the authority of nato?

[restive estuary]

ahlie like yo china come take back vladviostok

[ornate geode]

ehhh

[zinc light]

well then who are we to defend against?!?

[slim nexus]

Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, and pose a threat to nato

[ornate geode]

try encircle

[untold sphinx]

Wat

[ripe quail]

if you're advocating that theyre just as strong as they were immediately after the fall of berlin today that's another equally negligible claim

[ornate geode]

or go for naval bases

[slim nexus]

Uprisings and attempts to form empires against us

[umbral agate]

encircle how exactly

[ornate geode]

lemme do rq

[slim nexus]

Russia is made up of many states

[zinc light]

a full dissolution isnt necessary for that, some concessions, war reparations and military restrictions

[slim nexus]

It would simply be dissolved

Hence the name federation

[umbral agate]

i dont think you're seeing the same image as i am

[untold sphinx]

theyre much weaker army wise

[restive estuary]

yet they cant beat ukraine rn 💔

[ripe quail]

Russia as a whole is a negligent state

[slim nexus]

Economically and compared to other countries, they are

[ripe quail]

they have no real relevancy on the world stage

[slim nexus]

Ukraine has one of the biggest armies in europe due to fast mobilization

[restive estuary]

biggest doesnt always mean strongest, we saw this in iraq

[slim nexus]

Of course

[ripe quail]

3.5 years after the most stupid strategic blunder in modern military history

[slim nexus]

India has almost triple the american armys size

[zinc light]

people underestimate the sheer size and population of ukraine

[ripe quail]

they've barely taken over a quarter of the country

[slim nexus]

I would consider power to be based on influence, economic size and potential, military and nuclear capability

[ornate geode]

im tired

[ornate geode]

so yeah

i cant think properly

it looks like germant has military access to italy

so uh

idk

[ripe quail]

Ukraine as a whole as a nation state and geographical feature is borderline insurmountable in terms of military achievement unless 1. the invading power has the public support needed to carry a long, sustained military conflict or 2. it has the economy to bolster such an endeavor

[ornate geode]

then try open up the top right bit

[ripe quail]

Russia, arguably, has neither

[fallen vigil]

whole lotta green

[slim nexus]

Its just not really possible for nato to dissolve russia tho cause of nuclear deterrance and vague nuclear doctrine in which allows nuclear launch when their state is at risk, even if not a nuclear one

If Russia (or its allies) is attacked with nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction.

If Russia faces a conventional attack that threatens the very existence of the state.

[frank igloo]

maybe

[ripe quail]

a conventional attack wont happen

period

[slim nexus]

Yes

Exactly

[ripe quail]

therefore a nuclear wont either

[slim nexus]

Russia within itself in its current state is a very weak country

Its being held together by its old soviet nukes

[frank igloo]

is it though

[slim nexus]

If they didnt have nukes, nato wouldve preemptively attacked during the cold war

[frank igloo]

it still has a large military

[slim nexus]

?

[ornate geode]

what am i looking at

[slim nexus]

Look at ukraine

[pale stream]

Why are you using cavalry

[ripe quail]

the war will reach a terminus within the next 2 years at a minimum in ukraine's favor

[ornate geode]

atleast its not worse as ai peace deals

[slim nexus]

If ukraine can mobilize and defend for 4 years with just some lend leases and very few indirect volunteers

[umbral agate]

i press played and they took budapest in less than 2 weeks

[frank igloo]

don’t underestimate russia

[slim nexus]

Im sure nato would do good

[frank igloo]

because underestimation is what makes us weaker

[ripe quail]

theres nothing to underestimate

[slim nexus]

I understand

[frank igloo]

always overestimate the power of your enemy and plan accordingly

[ornate geode]

next time dont be shitty country

[slim nexus]

Look at my former messages, ive sent them from a neutral stand point

[frank igloo]

F-15 is my source

[umbral agate]

im hungary

[ornate geode]

i rather play as yugoslavia dawg

[umbral agate]

i got like 20% calvalry atack

[pale stream]

still

[pale stream]

Not worth it

[zinc light]

20% of 0 is still 0

[umbral agate]

i couldnt afford moterised

[slim nexus]

Moterised

[pale stream]

Just don't do cavalry

[woven dragon]

Is Slovakia in the Czech DLC?

[ornate geode]

wdym

[frank igloo]

moterised

[slim nexus]

Possibly

I dont think so tho

[umbral agate]

bro i cba to spell

[icy crescent]

@umbral agate
Don't listen to them stat-maxers.
Play what you want.
If it works, it works.
Have fun. c:

[frank igloo]

czechoslovakia

[slim nexus]

He means as in if you play czechoslovakia and want to play as slovakia

[umbral agate]

im so sorry i made spelling mistake

[ornate geode]

if you want a good mod for that, rise of lions. it has a good focus tree for czechoslovakia and slovaki

[slim nexus]

We still love you

[pale stream]

I mean... it didn't work and he showed us the ss asking what do we think

[woven dragon]

No I am asking if we think it will be in the new DLC

[icy crescent]

Oh. :I

[slim nexus]

So long we understand you, its fine king

[ornate geode]

maybe not

[zinc light]

-asking for advice
-gets advice
-other people complain because the advice isn't their opinion

[slim nexus]

That dlc is meanty to release 2026, so we dont know much about it

[ripe quail]

[icy crescent]

The new DLC will have a focus on the Pacific.
Not on Europe.

[frank igloo]

and it will focus on the great nation of CHINA!!!!

[slim nexus]

Its only a czech tree which is unfortunate, itd be nice for some other european minors to get a focus tree and revamped one

[frank igloo]

I LOVE CHINA

LOVE LIVE CHINA!!!!

🇹🇼

https://tenor.com/view/sunny-day-gif-6151457770329126881

https://tenor.com/view/taiwan-scream-if-you-love-taiwan-scream-love-gif-5686952073512070630

[pale stream]

China china, I know china very well

I know everyone in china

[frank igloo]

万岁！！！

蒋介石万岁！！

[slim nexus]

We should get a dlc with focus trees for luxembourg ireland and maybe like another country that has an outdated focus tree to give every country in europe a focus tree

[supple gulch]

Super cool china from WWII

[ornate geode]

just install mods..

[pale stream]

Luxembourg has a humongous tree with road to 56 btw

But it having a vanilla tree feels pretty useless

[ornate geode]

best mod

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-that-its-mine-now-gif-11859471

[icy crescent]

You're welcome.

[slim nexus]

Multiplayer tho

[frank igloo]

tldr no headphones

[woven dragon]

No the other one that they are doing for Czechoslovakia

[icy crescent]

Whoops.

[woven dragon]

Peace for Our Time

[brave siren]

What’s the DLCs included in the expansion pass

[slim nexus]

It was announced in the new trailer

[brave siren]

2

[slim nexus]

Its on yt

Explains everything

[pale stream]

It'll have content for Slovakia and Czechoslovakia

[slim nexus]

New doctrines, factions, asian focus trees

[umbral agate]

yk it wasnt going that bad untill i called my austrian puppet in the war

[slim nexus]

Including indonesia and siam 🥹

Is malaysia included

I forgot

[woven dragon]

No

[slim nexus]

They sold

[woven dragon]

Nor is New Zealand for some stupid reason

[pale stream]

China and Japan - NCNS
Indonesia, Australia, Siam - TAOG
Czechoslovakia - POOT

[serene token]

POOT = TF2

[woven dragon]

I WANT A BOB SEMPLE UPDATE

[icy crescent]

The Basegame formable of East Indies and Malaya is fancy.
Cool color.
Can core papua and Philippines .
Big population.
And rich af.
Except Steel.

[pale stream]

Huh all are 4 words

Previous DLCs had 3

(mostly)

[pale stream]

Who needs steel with all the rubber on the planey

[zinc light]

wordflation
in 10 years it'll be 15 words per DLC

[woven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/new-zealand-tanks-bob-semple-tank-gif-24607518

[brave siren]

Why didn’t you reply ping 🥹

[frank igloo]

NEW DOCTRINES?

[pale stream]

I'm just used to not pinging idk

[frank igloo]

WHART

[pale stream]

Kind of

[icy crescent]

It is beautiful.

[pale stream]

A rework of old doctrines

[zinc light]

BOB SEMPLE

[frank igloo]

Pin this

[icy crescent]

No.
This is Bob.

The bigger one is Big Bob.

[zinc light]

we love bob

[pale stream]

That was Bob's big brother

Bob semple and bob cemplicated

[idle prawn]

Every East Asian nation except French indochina and burma

[woven dragon]

and New Zealand

[zinc light]

and british malaya

[pale stream]

and tibet

[icy crescent]

Old Meme I made some time ago.
Yes, second one is Thunderdragon Bhutan.

[woven dragon]

IF NEW ZEALAND DOES NOT GET A NEW TREE WE WILL LAUNCH THE BOB SEMPLE REVOLT

[idle prawn]

Yep Indochina and Malaya were involved in ww2 more than afghanistan

[woven dragon]

WHO IS WITH ME

[pale stream]

The entire population of new Zealand (~20 people) and a few kiwi birds

[idle prawn]

I'm launching a game strike if Indochina and malaya didnt get added

[zinc light]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-moai-dwayne-johnson-d3s-gif-17850471898251413922

[pale stream]

Y'all know that road to 56 exists and adds trees to everything

[serene token]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-you-tone-machine-boi-gif-1669265049360956308

[idle prawn]

ye r56 tech doesnt make sense to me

[pale stream]

r56 doesn't change tech trees too much

[icy crescent]

Yugoslavia tree is essentially the same.

South Africa is even worse in R56.

[pale stream]

Indochina has a tree

And so does Tibet

A lot of nations have their own focus tree mods

That don't have conflicts with eachother

[woven dragon]

Speaking of Yugo why don’t they have troop voice lines

[idle prawn]

devs too busy focusing on giving bhutan a tree

[icy crescent]

Actually funny thought.
Randomizing between like 7 languages.

[woven dragon]

Is there a mod I can get?

[fallen vigil]

which one is the best guys?

[idle prawn]

depends

[icy crescent]

It often depends.

[cedar kite]

for compliance or resistance

[golden berry]

im not gonna lie bob semple is js the same as reddit humor its not funny 💔✌🏻

[fallen vigil]

can i just ss

and you tell me what

cause its only one region

switzerland doesnt matter since i can core them

[icy crescent]

Local Police Force is a often a nice compromise.
Otherwise go up, if needed.
Use spies.

[woven dragon]

How dare you

[icy crescent]

And get guns.

Dessolve army if needed.

[fallen vigil]

okayy

funnily enough i was about to get out of my defecit

[idle prawn]

why is this border triggering me

[fallen vigil]

im achievement hunting

[icy crescent]

Parts of Italy are missing.

And I guess Poland.

[idle prawn]

memel as germany capital

[fallen vigil]

is this a good cas template

for 1941-44

[fallen vigil]

didnt bother to take them since i dont need it for the achievement

[icy crescent]

Local police force.
Otherwise even civilian oversight with spies in Peace Times.

[fallen vigil]

appreciate it

[golden berry]

armor plates and range MIO

[fallen vigil]

cant

[golden berry]

do focke wolf if ur germany