hoi4-general

[bright arrow]

So you replaced Fascist Japan with Fascist Japan

[flat gazelle]

yes

we even let hirohito stay

i thought it would need a much longer game than until 1942

[languid patrol]

is coal and stuff only gonna be in the japan dlc or is it coming to base game?

[bronze mango]

Base game more than probably

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[trail beacon]

r8 my ww2 speedrun danzig%

[flat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-why-are-you-blue-blue-jesse-gif-27031558

[trail beacon]

idk that's r56

[bronze mango]

Cause blue roc is better

[ripe slate]

❤️

Oh I thought you were gonna be playing Danzig, smh

[fair horizon]

wchich country is that?

[flat gazelle]

sweden

[green moss]

technically, he's not a modern politician of our history because that's artificial intelligence leading a nation

that identifies itself as modern politician

[fair horizon]

looks like a leader out of the owb mod lol

chat whats a good country in rt56

[tiny plank]

So far? There is more?

[green moss]

blue, purple and red variations arose against me

weird

[split bane]

Probably Siam and Korea if I had to guess

[fair horizon]

aussie rework imbound 🙏

[split bane]

Also the warlord changes

[safe wing]

They confirmed manchuko too

[brittle cypress]

Good and rt56 don’t go in the same sentence

[tiny plank]

Nah we need new zealand

[safe wing]

Like last month

[tiny plank]

It should have bigger tree than iceland

[green moss]

Socialist Palestine

because Pan-Arab Socialist State

[safe wing]

Im honestly hyped for Manchuko

[green moss]

looks cool

[green moss]

Puyi suddenly becomes prodigy that can liberate his own people

[safe wing]

Because Manchuko atm is a chore to play

[fair horizon]

ok so like a real minor nation

[safe wing]

Just like Wilhelm II being good at diplomacy

[fair horizon]

cause im not playing mr 1 civ minor nation

[safe wing]

And Victor Emanuel III not being indecisive

[green moss]

Manchuko to Qing China will be impressive ngl

from dirts to kings

[safe wing]

Hope they fix the Japanese white peace deal

Because it never triggers whenever I play

[fair horizon]

burma doesnt exist in rt56, life ruined

[safe wing]

It should February 1936 onwards

Irl that is

[sudden grotto]

Yet they still have more potraits than albania

[fair horizon]

rt56 you better have done australia good

[ripe slate]

Yeh cuz its unrealistic

It only split off in 1937 or sum

same time UK took Aden from Raj IIRC

[fair horizon]

australia isnt a superpower in rt56, clearly this mod is bad 😔

oml the political tree is bigger than the real australia tree

alright i take it all back ily rt56 mod team

playable australia

[uncut pollen]

FINALLY

IM BEATING THE SOVIET UNION

[ripe slate]

❤️ We love you too

[fair horizon]

123 divs on a single general 💀

[uncut pollen]

yeah i know i was just lazy and made one spearpoint

[safe wing]

Should i try my new Naval Imperial Germany build

[quiet reef]

guys when does the japan dlc come out

[safe wing]

Build Carriers, Battleships, Battle Crusiers, heavy and light cruisers and destroyers for capital ship shields

Because Im gonna be fighting 5 of the 7 major powers

[fair horizon]

just spam light cruisers

[safe wing]

Done that before

Just feels like a cop out

[strong belfry]

140 factory at 1941 🙏

[fair horizon]

oml australia with a plane mio? say it aint so

[flat gazelle]

what am i looking at 😭

[small kelp]

Czechoslovakian italy 🥀

[uncut pollen]

My 1st time beating the soviet union

[flat gazelle]

i have so many questions

[uncut pollen]

Ask me all of them

[fair horizon]

best part about playing a dominion is cheesing your ship repairs using britian

[sturdy girder]

if german ai remilitarize the rhineland does that mean no civil war

[flat gazelle]

yes

its either rhineland or civil war

[sturdy girder]

ty

[fair horizon]

wait is the ai smarter in rt56 or did italy just win the ethopia war really fast?

[steady thorn]

its not any smarter

[fair horizon]

big w for italy boys they won the ethopia war in 1936 instead of sitting there for 3 years

[steady thorn]

they never do that 😭

even on vanilla it is always 1936

[fair horizon]

bro my italy is always dumb af

[steady thorn]

It takes around 110 days or 120?

to beat it

[fair horizon]

yeah ive seen them go past 1936 before 💀

[muted pecan]

IM SO EXCITED FOR PACIFIC DLC AHHHHHH

[steady thorn]

Because on historical ethiopia will always take boardinf the train focus which is 3 35 day focus’s

they never loose before that on historical

[fair horizon]

i hope they redo the australia tree 🙏

[muted pecan]

australia😭

[bright arrow]

I assume US might be the next for next year major Dlc

[muted pecan]

COMMIE CHINA AND JAPAN GOING TO BE SO FUN!!!

[bright arrow]

Considering how flavourless they are

[muted pecan]

us is so boring they should not waste time on a focus for it

[bright arrow]

Thats exactly why they should

To make the early game fun for US

[muted pecan]

US is just to isolated to do anything cool

they can either build up or attack canada and mexico. and thats about it

[bright arrow]

Internal politics

After all, from what i see most people dont even like wars

Everyone tries to cheese the fastest way possible out of a conflict

[muted pecan]

true

honestly the thing i want most is an option to remove dlc feature while keep the focus trees. im so sick of the military companies its unreal

you have to micro and reset them every game for each piece of equipment and i wish i could just turn it off

[fair horizon]

yo rt56 australia is busted

[muted pecan]

same with building tanks and planes. it was fun at first, but you just end up building the same things every game and its painfully boring

[bright arrow]

Agree that kind of micro is annoying. I just wished they added automatic pursuits of company research, and give us ww2 pre determined templates for the tanks of each nation

And aircraft and ships

So i dont have to design a new one every single time i finish researching

[muted pecan]

the old system for tanks and planes was so much better imo. i wish someone made a mod that reverted it to that

[safe wing]

Hoi4 is a sandbox game though and who punishes you if you break the meta in single player

[bright arrow]

Thats why i would like if we got pre determined templates according to ww2 tanks for each nation

That woud make every run more unique if you didn't want to design them yourself

And would still allow you to change what you want

[safe wing]

Do what I do when I get home and Larp

[muted pecan]

i dont even know what the meta is. doesnt change the fact that 99% of the time most countries can use the exact same tank/plane template. at that point just let everyone research the same type of plane so we dont have to micro useless stuff

[bright arrow]

All im asking is for in-game larp mechanics, so i can easily larp without having to design every little thing by force

[safe wing]

Fair

[patent thistle]

thank covid for completly destroying my faith in humanity

[safe wing]

I think there are mods for that

[safe wing]

Mine was destroyed 5 years earlier than covid

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-red-stocks-crash-stocks-crashing-downwards-gif-17056650

[safe wing]

Thanks to a certain punitive private school

[patent thistle]

thats mine rn

[muted pecan]

ive looked and havent found any yet. might be wrong though

[patent thistle]

also context to this: someone was calling me r@cist because i was swearing at some libyan

[safe wing]

I often joked that I was at war with the school and my favorite fictional characters were my generals leading my armies for me

I often viewed the war as wwi in terms of tactics, but thats enough metaphors

[muted pecan]

i also wish that the international market mattered more in single player. i know its used a decent amount in multiplayer though

[patent thistle]

if you need guns its a life saver in multiplayer and singleplayer

[trail zinc]

is indonesia gonna get a focus tree?

[safe wing]

Me who uses it to sell my shitty outdated planes and tanks

[brittle cypress]

I love buying shitty gun 1s

[patent thistle]

i just keep the planes and throw them against people in early wars

then sell them

[safe wing]

I usually don’t go to war as the German Empire until December 1939- February 1940

Thats when the USSR attacked Estonia

[patent thistle]

i go for an early war against the dutch for the oil

and sometimes if the ai lets me poland

[safe wing]

I befriend Poland after they give me danzig back

[patent thistle]

i just tend to invade them early

no molotov ribbentrop pact needed easy

[errant remnant]

how good isthis

[patent thistle]

navy can get up

otherwise its fine

i do 51 ships while sleeping

[errant remnant]

yea but..

who the frikery frakin fruk frak understands navy

[slim nexus]

What country

[errant remnant]

Brazil

[flat gazelle]

i mean it looks fairly small ngl

[safe wing]

Im gonna do a massive navy when I get home as Germany

[safe wing]

Stolen or built

[flat gazelle]

this is mine

[errant remnant]

idfk the difference

[safe wing]

Did you make them or take them?

[patent thistle]

actually quite a few cause once your in it its easy

[fair horizon]

the aussie and british home fleets just hanging out in tanzania

[errant remnant]

oh mine was just a random game

not my best

[safe wing]

I do

[flat gazelle]

nvm then

[errant remnant]

N E R D

[fair horizon]

mememememe

[errant remnant]

N E R D

jkjkjk

[fair horizon]

i hate you

[errant remnant]

so do i

[fair horizon]

❤️

why doesnt australia use all that land in the middle? kinda dumb ngl

[errant remnant]

honestly i love remaking old empires in HOI4 and makign them better as if they never fell

[patent thistle]

get on my level

[errant remnant]

"3.13M" . . .

[flat gazelle]

almost 3 times your highest enemy casulaties tho 😎

[patent thistle]

those are really just from the endsieg mod

[patent thistle]

i tend to have relatively short wars

[errant remnant]

somebody give me a challenge to do in HOI4

and it better not be understand the navy

[patent thistle]

1939 poland

[errant remnant]

Done already too ez

[fair horizon]

understand navy

[patent thistle]

okay fine aussa

[errant remnant]

N o . . .

aussa?

[fair horizon]

tibet world conquest

[errant remnant]

done already

[fair horizon]

luxembourg one division challenge

[errant remnant]

HELL NAH i dont what THAT big of a challenge

also whats the top 5 DLC in yalls opinion?

[flat gazelle]

hot take they all suck and shouldnt be paid content

[patent thistle]

that one red state in ethiopia that gets annexed in like 30 days at most

you start with 4 irregulars, good luck

[errant remnant]

i only have two but i got it with the game

[patent thistle]

sadly because they know they can suck us dry Hoi5 is most likely never gonna come out

[errant remnant]

wait no i have 3.. DOD TOV WTT

Are they any good

or od i have the worst ones

[patent thistle]

i have all up downwards of götterdämmerung because i bought them cheap from some website

[main breach]

join game

[errant remnant]

Im too broke even for cheap shi LMAOOO

[main breach]

ejo broke boi join our game

[errant remnant]

Ejo Ken soundin ahhh sthu

[patent thistle]

i got all i meantioned + game for like 30 bucks

[main breach]

ejo lil bro i will take ur pants off

[errant remnant]

Ejo "lil bro" i dont care

frak off weirdo

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-lex-luthor-superman-aaah-raging-gif-11297985997473498830

[trail beacon]

r8 my ww2 speedrun barb%

[patent thistle]

america is still free so not done yet

[fair horizon]

1940? too late

[bright arrow]

Blue China

Is that a mod?

[trail beacon]

r56

[bright arrow]

Honestly if i was to change colours in vanilla i would make UK a more dark red like GWR and China blue

[patent thistle]

i still love that i bought the shinano of japan still.

[fair horizon]

shinano 😴

akagi is clearly the best one

[patent thistle]

shut up i also bought the akagi and kaga

[fair horizon]

kaga

[patent thistle]

the shinano can carry twice the ammount of planes

because the ai actually knew how to make a proper carrier

[languid patrol]

....

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon

[fair horizon]

no care

bro what the heck rt56 devs

why am i garuenteeing the dutch east indies

[patent thistle]

just cancel it easy

[fair horizon]

not enough pp :(

[patent thistle]

anyways what would you rank the yugoslav borders proper

[fair horizon]

long yugo 🤮

[slim nexus]

Looks delicious

[bright arrow]

Well, at least they're reasonable

[patent thistle]

YE cause i could have for example fully cored the entirety of translyvania and hungary but i didnt

[patent thistle]

atleast we own the akagi and kaga

[fair horizon]

yeah thats fair

[bright arrow]

Coring Hungary as Yugoslavia is beyond cursed

[patent thistle]

thats one of the main reasons why i didnt do it

and also for borders

i rather have a shorter axis border then a longer and a few more cores

[bright arrow]

I dont understand how people use puppets as buffers

If i do it, the country im at war with declares war on my puppet like a month later

[patent thistle]

the only non puppet border i have with the axis (which is just germany at this point) is slovenia

[patent thistle]

they usally dont do it for me

[bright arrow]

Idk how they get the option to declare war, but they always do

My puppets always get dec war on after a short time

[patent thistle]

very realistic

in early 1940

[fallen vigil]

this is what it took to cap the ussr finally

[bright arrow]

Well, you did miss Murmansk and Arkhangelsk

[icy crescent]

Chat.
Name a nation bigger than one state.

Non-major.

[sudden thistle]

Albania

[icy crescent]

Already played it.
Another one.

[bright arrow]

With or without focus tree?

[sudden thistle]

Paraguay

[icy crescent]

Alright. c:

[patent thistle]

mongolia

[fair horizon]

bro no way

[torpid karma]

civil war speedrun any%

[fair horizon]

you're cooked bud

[fallow grove]

Im that Germany

[tepid edge]

why are encirclements so satisfying to look at

[languid patrol]

quite the opposite

[tepid edge]

i'm that Russia

[sudden grotto]

Not Gray enough.

Why Italy exists?

Balkans.

[trail beacon]

italy is my ally 😭

balkans escaped. i'm taking care of them

[sudden grotto]

Better dead than italy

Even Iberia, Just steal their tungsten fr fr, resettle the Great visigoths

[sharp sierra]

tungsten sahur

[patent thistle]

good now kill china and vichy

[trail beacon]

you're just egging me on to do a WC

[sudden grotto]

...

No...

I would never.

Just make Maps gray again 🙏

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/totr-totя-meme-spongebob-totya-gif-2321838813784867908

[fair horizon]

CHAT INFANTRY MIO WHAT TAKE

[sudden grotto]

Soft attack

( left )

[sudden thistle]

Both

Trust

[sudden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-iq-smart-gif-25368965

[fair horizon]

bro they're going anarchist

[sudden thistle]

Why is that Spain shaped like the German flag symbol

[fair horizon]

i dunno

[wet basalt]

What the hell have i made chatgpt create

[sudden grotto]

Bud Is crazy

[fair horizon]

gikivia supremacy

[wet basalt]

What even is that thing in west of africa

[safe wing]

Does anyone know that if you set France to go fascist in game options will they still have a civil war

Because the ai is stupid

[sudden grotto]

They Will prob get Laval fascism as fast as possible

[worn coral]

ethiopia is resisting

[sudden grotto]

But prob no civil war

[sharp sierra]

the worl in 4000 years

[worn coral]

so i will let them resist as much as they want

[safe wing]

Gonna try it

[safe wing]

The world would be one government under a single military dictatorship if crab people existed

Under humanity of course to guarantee its survival against crustricians (crab people but way more compotent and complex)

[safe wing]

I wanna make a custom game where France goes fascist and befriends Portugal, Italy and Spain

[sharp sierra]

what does germany do

[safe wing]

Thats me and Monarchist

USSR and USA will both be communist

And Uk will be fascist too

Japan, possibly non aligned or fascist

[sudden grotto]

Latin entente huh

[safe wing]

Yes

[neat kayak]

Greece , done 🙂

[bright arrow]

Make everyone go communist and you fascist

As Germany

[wet basalt]

And make all countries have extreme winter

Make hitler's worst nightmares

[flat gazelle]

3 today

still 42 to go tho

and most of the ones i have left are hard

shouldve also done return of the king today but i messed up

[sharp sierra]

do u have the spanish ones

[flat gazelle]

and couldnt be bothered to do another run

[sudden grotto]

Cries in 191 achivements

[sharp sierra]

im procrastinating on them

i dont wanna play spain

[flat gazelle]

i do

i had 100% at one point

but that was when bba came out

[sharp sierra]

theres a swiss achievement thats bugged

or i think it is

this one

[proud tapir]

Should you even build civs as Germany or just spam mils?

[sharp sierra]

although i had bba disabled so i didnt have to deal with the terrible swiss tree

all other achievements popped but that one didnt

[safe wing]

Switzerland never needed a focus tree

[flat gazelle]

probably something to do with the dlc being turned off

[sharp sierra]

i really doubt it

if all other swiss achievements worked fine

but maybe

[safe wing]

Ethiopia did IMO

[flat gazelle]

love it when im playing non historical hungary and need otto for the achievement

[safe wing]

Would have been better if Austria was in by blood alone instead of Switzerland

[sudden grotto]

Relatable pain

[brittle cypress]

would have been better if switzerland never got content

[flat gazelle]

i just realized i can set them to go historical

[sharp sierra]

switzerland could have been so much more fun they made it so stupid

[safe wing]

Austria had good relations with Italy

[brittle cypress]

current switzerland is worse than no switzerland

[heavy vigil]

Worst focus tree in the game

Ive not heard of anyone who plays it for fun multiple times

[flat gazelle]

japan exists

[safe wing]

Yugoslavia, Romania and Czechoslovakia need updates

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/honobono-keitoin-hypmic-hypnosis-mic-dont-even-joke-lad-gif-15783972244702862366

[dusky burrow]

Madrid state is lava

[heavy vigil]

Japan is fun

[safe wing]

Romania the most IMO

[flat gazelle]

"i cant wait to play japan" said no one ever

[dusky burrow]

Wait no they just launched the anarchist civil war lmao

[sharp sierra]

yea so the tree is dated you can still easily do what you want

and its clear

[pure hollow]

I really hope TFV gets a fix after this dlc but we all know it isn't

[flat gazelle]

oh i know whats the worst one

czechoslovakia

[pure hollow]

Or yeah the Balkan one

[safe wing]

1.2 million men were mobilized by Romania for ww2

[heavy vigil]

I say that a lot of the time

And also others im sure

[safe wing]

Romania is fun yes but its outdated

Its literally greater romania (lame) or balkans dominance (decent)

[flat gazelle]

italy is surprisingly bad

i played italy recently

[sharp sierra]

??

[flat gazelle]

and its really boring imo

[safe wing]

How?

I can conquer the Balkans by 1939 as italy

[bright arrow]

Switzerland content is just "hehe im not supposed to do anything, now give me all your land and get nothing in return"

[flat gazelle]

yeah and people can form rome with italy by 1939

[pure hollow]

Italy's tree isn't GREAT but it's not bad

[flat gazelle]

doesnt mean the tree is good

[sharp sierra]

well the alternate paths are a bit lackluster but its still a great and playable tree

[flat gazelle]

yeah i worded it kinda wrongly, what i meant is that i rmeembered it being better

[pure hollow]

After this south east Asia fix

We need a redo of Czechoslovakia, Romania

Just to bring them modern

[flat gazelle]

i sure love when my paid content is "playable"

[safe wing]

I like playing Italy because it starts out in a poor position

[bright arrow]

I kinda hate how all of SA got the exact same army tree

[pure hollow]

Then UK's puppets

[safe wing]

Baltic states:

[sharp sierra]

yea their business model is dog shit no one defends it

[brittle cypress]

i wish paradox didn't do this copy paste slop

[pure hollow]

I still can't believe they haven't fixed India not breaking free

[brittle cypress]

every country should have a totally unique tree

[safe wing]

Why would the baltic states need a unique army tree though given how they are all kinda similar

[brittle cypress]

they're all invidual countries

[bright sinew]

...

lol

😄

gg

[brittle cypress]

i expect content

[dusky burrow]

At least post-1990 IRL their defense strategies are actually quite different because geographically they are quite different

[pure hollow]

For how relevant the baltics were historically you can't complain

[safe wing]

Yes? But do they really need unique stuff when the literally have the same problem the USSR

[pure hollow]

The game is set in 1936 cuz

[brittle cypress]

yes

germany also has the same problem the ussr

they get their own unique stuff

[brittle cypress]

clearly this is a comparable situation

[safe wing]

How is that a problem

[brittle cypress]

when did i say that was a problem

[languid patrol]

yugo slavias 2nd most dominant ethnicty is turks 🔥

[safe wing]

Germany had a very different political situation and military mentality than the ussr

[brittle cypress]

what

[languid patrol]

im also at war with allies

[brittle cypress]

how did you go from that to that

look the point is that making countries have copy and paste trees is basically the same as giving them a regional focus tree

they should get their own

[dusky burrow]

Doesn't change the fact that Estonia is largely forested with narrow chokepoints while Lithuania is largely plains

[slim nexus]

[dusky burrow]

Although upon further checking, uh...

[safe wing]

Last point did you get no step back for the batlic states or like me the USSR or Poland

[random snow]

Screw it im using anti tank

[brittle cypress]

for the tank designer and the other mechanics

[dusky burrow]

The baltics share an economic branch, not a military branch

[errant remnant]

whats the weirdest game yall have ever had

[safe wing]

That too

[bright arrow]

Baltics trees are actually fun tho

[safe wing]

Was disappointed by the lackluster White army stuff though

[bright arrow]

Unless you go communist, since you can't do much

[safe wing]

But that was probably because of covid and time schedules

[flat gazelle]

speaking of which

polish tree sucks

[bright arrow]

I think France content was disappointing for La resistance

[safe wing]

How?

[flat gazelle]

the monarchy is nice but other than that its poor

[safe wing]

Well who cares about communism

[sharp sierra]

ur a silly billy

[safe wing]

And democracy

And fascism when monarchism is the best path

[bright arrow]

Non-align paths give me brainrot

They're always stupid

[safe wing]

Fascism and communism for me

Because of how braindead the people who like it are

[sharp sierra]

exiled poland is a naval superpower

[icy crescent]

[bright arrow]

That looks like a carcinoma

[languid patrol]

how do i demand war reperations

[safe wing]

Fascism made Germany, Japan and Italy fight unwinnable wars, while communism poisoned Russia, China and North Kore

[flat gazelle]

has anyone here done the norwegian achievements?

because im trying to prepare myself mentally for that

[bright arrow]

Do you have the Italian dlc?

[languid patrol]

ah nvm then

[marble igloo]

Anyone have a good mutliplayer troop template to counter/defend properly against strong tank divisions assuming air superiority is about even on both sides?

[brittle cypress]

your own strong tank divisions

[marble igloo]

Also under the assumption, that i'm not my team's tank player, and i'm just trying to defend a specific front while they push elsewhere.

Sorry, i need to clarify.

[brittle cypress]

if you're not doing air or tanks you should just make mass mob infantry

if you want to be technical about it

[noble garden]

I hate USSR

[brittle cypress]

you could make mech bricks if you want to be more specialized

or you could make special forces

[safe wing]

Fighting or playing as them?

[noble garden]

Fighting

Cuz

[marble igloo]

I am looking for a defensive infantry division, that can stall against tanks and not immediately collapse, assumming the sides are mostly at a standstill on air forces

[safe wing]

Huh?

[noble garden]

I’m polish romanian, have the faction from the over the sea se concept

[sudden thistle]

Fire

[marble igloo]

the basic 18w infantry, with support anti-tank, wasn't enough.

[safe wing]

It took me one year to kill them as Imperial Germany

[noble garden]

And the faction has everyone expect the Lithuanians who are a Soviet puppet

AND

[brittle cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096634574353735771/1313472922874286080/africa_MM.png?ex=68d289fb&is=68d1387b&hm=021926e99f9277937bbdea2e3ca468d01186d30662e6c8e1036e4f2987669cae&

[noble garden]

LITHUANIA DECLARED WAR

SO

[brittle cypress]

swap support companies as needed

[marble igloo]

i had support anti-tank, support arti, support anti-air, engineers, and it failed

[noble garden]

I HAVE TO FIGHT THEM

[brittle cypress]

you can't expect pure infantry to be able to hold against tanks

[safe wing]

I had half of Poland, the baltic states, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia as allies

[brittle cypress]

your options as a minor are to just making frontline infantry and hope that majors can appear to actually push back the enemies

[safe wing]

And I was in Moscow by summer 1940

Ans the USSR had France as an ally

[noble garden]

I have the baltics(expect Lithuania,) Hungary, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland

[marble igloo]

So basically, my major teammates were terrible in the game i played, and our death was inevitable

[brittle cypress]

what were you playing?

[marble igloo]

I was spain

[sacred fiber]

Im a noob and need help, I have 6 civilian factories but I need steel. 3 of em are at use for civilian goods (I can’t change it, I checked) but where are the rest????? PLEASE help

[marble igloo]

i had infantry, and i had full naval control

[brittle cypress]

did germany make tanks that worked?

[bright arrow]

I stole them

[marble igloo]

yes, our france player made airforce and never made tanks. Our italian player never made tanks or anything useful afaik

[sacred fiber]

Bro the Soviets are bouta molest me😭

[marble igloo]

eventually our front collapsed off the maginot line

[bright arrow]

Your probably trading something with the other 3

[brittle cypress]

oh wait you were allied with germany

[marble igloo]

no

enemies

[sacred fiber]

Can someone help me

[marble igloo]

the germany player went democratic

[brittle cypress]

*weren't

[marble igloo]

it was an alt-hist

[brittle cypress]

sounds like no one knew what they were doing then

[marble igloo]

i was trying to take out the UK, had naval control, didn't get marines up in time

[bright arrow]

Check if you aren't trading resources with the other 3

[marble igloo]

To be fair, the comitern players quit early and messed everything up

USA/Soviets teamed up

Germany/UK/Czech teamed up

Italy/France/Spain teamed up

[brittle cypress]

i mean honestly

spain italy france are the weakest combination

2 barely majors

one minor

[marble igloo]

i noticed

it was a rough game

we took half of germany and got pushed back out. trapped UK on their island, but they just spammed planes

[brittle cypress]

if france made heavy tds and italy made infantry and air and you supported you probably could have held

[marble igloo]

and the italian player was not very smart

to be fair, i also made misplays

i invested too much into navy, expected the UK player to be a bit smarter

and i didn't invest into anti-tank enough

[brittle cypress]

i don't think investing in navy as spain is a good play

you'll never match the uk

[marble igloo]

Well the funny thing is, i wiped out 95% of the uk navy

if not more

[brittle cypress]

that is quite funny

uk did not know what he was doing in that case

[marble igloo]

Germany player went for the long-game

they just defended until they could make a strong tank set up

and swept us with it

And i failed to naval invade UK, they just walled the shores with infantry

[safe wing]

Tried doing mefo as imperial last night

Not doing that again

[marble igloo]

So i wanted to find a better way for minor nations to deal with tanks

some sort of combination of a good infantry division + cas

Is what i was thinking

Loading up a post-world conquest file to test stats

[flat gazelle]

finally

took me 5 restarts

[fair horizon]

i need sigma of iron for rt56

imagine if this guy was hitting that mewing streak

[trail beacon]

things don't look good for ai germany...

[icy crescent]

Ah yes.
The Little Front.

[bronze mango]

Stresa front

[bronze mango]

"OUTLAWED"

[dry yoke]

hi

[bronze mango]

I have so many questions

[bronze mango]

Hello

[dry yoke]

I absolutely suck at hoi4

[split bane]

Dw, we all do

[agile panther]

What questions

[sudden grotto]

Is that the...funny SS lad

[bronze mango]

Why is eurasia a demsoc german puppet at war with the great socialist Arab jamahiriya?

[sudden grotto]

Spreading eurasian freedom

[agile panther]

Fr

[bronze mango]

Afro-eurasia

[rancid bramble]

hi chat

[ripe slate]

Hello

[bronze mango]

Also why are you playing Poland?

[flat gazelle]

i love non historical hoi4

[rancid bramble]

im bored.

what mod should i do now?

[ripe slate]

Road to 56

[trail beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/skyfire-arknights-skyfire-sip-skyfire-arknights-catgirl-sip-gif-4700914931139228155

[ripe slate]

🥺

[rancid bramble]

cause your a team member of it?

the bear soldier? Deal

[ripe slate]

😛 As Ive said before, I was shilling it before I joined

[rancid bramble]

allo to you too

[ripe slate]

[bronze mango]

I didn't realise you asked for mods

[rancid bramble]

how?

but your excused

[bronze mango]

Idk I misread it

[rancid bramble]

your thoughts tho?

[bronze mango]

For mods?

[rancid bramble]

[bronze mango]

Id say red dusk is good if you haven't played it already

[rancid bramble]

i have tho

im waiting for an update

[bronze mango]

Red flood?

[split bane]

Don't listen to that guy, play KR

[rancid bramble]

i just did that

[bronze mango]

Ignore them,play kx

[split bane]

Damn, then play GWR

[rancid bramble]

wad dat?

[split bane]

Great War Redux

[rancid bramble]

intersting

[flat gazelle]

germany got stuck because of their party popularities

[bronze mango]

You have decisions to lower popularity

[flat gazelle]

i mean its not me

its the ai

[bronze mango]

Ah

[flat gazelle]

im chilling

[bronze mango]

That was something they supposedly fixed a while ago, although in practice it only worked for a patch

[flat gazelle]

i see the ai doing that very often ngl

[bronze mango]

White bulgaria

[flat gazelle]

ah yeah they got a civil war randomly

and now its like this

beautiful

only italy left now

wait i dont get any focus to get something on them?

i was 100% sure there was something like that

[bronze mango]

I think its due to the zveno

[bronze mango]

Depends on the path I think

[flat gazelle]

yeah thats possible

[bronze mango]

Or maybe it was just for hungary

Regardless you have claims on them

Unless you gave them up

[flat gazelle]

yeah but i need world tension at 50% lol

[slim nexus]

will the east asia dlc have a thailand focus tree?

[bronze mango]

Seems to be a no,but presumably the country pack after that will

[flat gazelle]

also im not sure how big of an army i should train for fighting italy

[slim nexus]

nice, thank you

[bronze mango]

Italy is weak and you can repeatedly encircle them in the port of zara to weaken them

[flat gazelle]

should be fine right?

[bronze mango]

Yeah

[flat gazelle]

now its just waiting until 50% world tension

oh i love italy

they have yugoslavia puppeted somehow

makes it easier for me

greatest ai lithuania game oat

formed the plc and are clapping the soviets now

lovely

oh great

they just joined

the danish faction

surely i win this

yeah nvm

was a nice run tbf 😭

non historical is just too hard to predict for me

[sudden thistle]

did u already lose

[flat gazelle]

but im scared on doing this on historical

[flat gazelle]

i might have

[sharp sierra]

just fight everybody

[dusky burrow]

Austria-Hungary strong

[gaunt thorn]

anyone know how to get a naval invasion into canada from here

i cant get any ships in range

[sharp sierra]

just take islands

or use submarines

[fallow grove]

Is going full military factories a valid German strategy?

[icy crescent]

I believe there is one focus that require you to have a certain amount of civs to get another research slot.
Other than that, I guess so. Just consider to upgrades some railways later when invading more difficult areas.

[gaunt thorn]

get to 50 civs

for the research slot

if ur doing four year plan

[dusky burrow]

^

(although you can do that with anscluss)

[fallow grove]

Rushing anschluss and czech gives the required civs?

[dusky burrow]

Yes

[jovial carbon]

they joined chinnese united front + they refused

i have no idea what happended there

[neat kayak]

the factions do need their rework

[fallow grove]

Also is it worth to rush danzig or war and around maginot and france before France joins the uk?

[sudden grotto]

Ngl the commie Mexico Path Is Crazy broken, for 250 guns you can send to Spain during the civil war and get infinite army xp

[jovial carbon]

yeah sadly i had to use command to get them

[neat kayak]

a damn

still pretty good

[jovial carbon]

im better with austira than with italy

italy i got destroyed by the allies

[neat kayak]

how many hours do you have?

[jovial carbon]

311 hours

im still bad at this game somehow

[neat kayak]

Italy papal path

[jovial carbon]

i tried forming roman empire but turkey + uk + france killed me 😭

[neat kayak]

i can give you a strat

which i love doing everytime i play no cw italy

i am gonna say 3 things

transport , paratroopers and France

[jovial carbon]

oh

right i forgot that paratroopers exist

[jovial carbon]

how do i defeat turkey tho

[neat kayak]

you don't

you defeat them after Britain and France are dead

[jovial carbon]

oh so i kill bulgaria greece romania first right?

[neat kayak]

first allies

then mop up

[jovial carbon]

oh what i was doing was puppeting yugo early invading romania bulgaria greece and turkey

[random snow]

My only aircraft carrier was sunk

[neat kayak]

you don't need to rush yugoslavia

just take care of the european threats

[jovial carbon]

its in the focus tree tho

its free

[neat kayak]

yes

i know

but you can stall the decision

take down Croissant land and Briain first and then focus on other things

[bright sinew]

holy shit

i swear the worst part of iron man

is the laggy ass save that happens every 5 seconds

and you cant turn it off

thanks paradox i love tihs

[jovial carbon]

one more question do i go tank main for italy

[ripe slate]

they should do like CK3 and allow achievements with mods and without ironman

[neat kayak]

If you want go

i did it with infantry and air

i rarely do tanks

[jovial carbon]

i love doing tanks or space marines lol

[neat kayak]

space marines are op

especially with Anti air tanks

[jovial carbon]

dude i once defended a tile with 4 space marines as ussr and i won ( germany was attacking in 4 tiles) and it had 45 divisions in total 😭

[sturdy girder]

nvm i need to read

[random snow]

britan is useless once again

[dusky burrow]

Oh no

[random snow]

I capitulated

[ripe slate]

I had the same my last France game IIRC, Britain was helping keep the line, then suddenly left

[dusky burrow]

noooooooooo

[dusky burrow]

You should be able to hold unless it's like Sheep's, right?

[jovial carbon]

yea france is a bit hard 😭

[random snow]

Ya dont say

[ripe slate]

Nah I always struggle with France's manpower

[dusky burrow]

I mean fair

[open quartz]

and whenever I play allies/comintern the german AI gets annihilated

[dusky burrow]

However, I still think you should be able to get 4-5 armies of 18-width infantry out

[flat gazelle]

i mean

what would be the point then

[ripe slate]

Fun?

🤷‍♂️

If you wanted to just cheat them, you already could

[uncut pollen]

But cheating is Bad in hoi 4
(I cheated multible Times)

[marble igloo]

Question for competitive multiplayer rules, is there an official banlist of sorts anywhere? or a common ban list most people use? Example: Stormtroopers

[random snow]

Usually my navy is goated but since my industry was basicly non exsistant i had to deal with the already existing navy

[uncut pollen]

But Not when i First beaten the soviet union

[flat gazelle]

i dont think cheating is bad as its a sandbox game but if something is an achievement it should at least try to prevent it, not encourage it

thats just my opinion tho

[marble igloo]

I did every single achievement in the game legitimately.

You do have to turn off some dlcs to make some of them work though

namely, As sweden get a lend lease for a tiger tank from germany is bugged and requires you to turn one specific dlc off

[fair horizon]

use your panzerschiffs

[safe wing]

NGL I don't miss the old alt hist germany tree

this was the old one

[trail beacon]

slaps the deck she may not look like much, but 6 of these bad girls will get you the naval supremacy you need for a 1938 operation sea lion.

[lime saffron]

Coop hoi4 anyone I have all dlcs but am new

[dusky burrow]

waaaait

My eyes don't deceive me right?

[marble igloo]

How much Hardness stat turns an infantry division into a Stormtrooper division when it comes to multiplayer "rules"?

[trail beacon]

6 of these gives you 27k manpower. for reference, one '36 cruiser gives you 800.

naval supremacy is calculated by production cost and deployed manpower

[marble igloo]

Ah yes, naval supremacy cheesing

[trail beacon]

in other words... it's a giant steel transport for your troops

[marble igloo]

But if you actually want to destroy navies. You just research anecohic tiles and make near-invisible subs

Disclaimer: Near invisible subs tend to die to naval bombers

[trail beacon]

not enough time for what i was trying to do

i was doing sea lion in late '37

[marble igloo]

Are you trying to speedrun or something?

[trail beacon]

yeahj

[marble igloo]

You know there are speedruns of this game already right?

[trail beacon]

ww2 danzig%

[marble igloo]

Research them, and then try to improve things

[trail beacon]

maybe. i just like having fun

[marble igloo]

I am also pretty sure they rely on paratroopers

rather than naval invasions

[trail beacon]

i almost never use paratroopers

[marble igloo]

And they are extremely broken

Nothing like capturing poland and france before you even touch the frontline.....

[safe wing]

as Imperial Germany I'm gonna have Scandanavia, and Poland-Romania as allies

playing a custom rp game

[marble igloo]

Meanwhile, i'm trying to develop a multiplayer-focused infantry division that doesn't break the stormtrooper hardness rule

[dusky burrow]

I mean, your 1936 carrier costs 2468 and also only has a floatplane catapult, I don't think either is possible

[dry kayak]

i've just discovered the biggest scam in HoI4: if you establish the italian ethiopia all the divisions of the puppets disappear in one click

[trail beacon]

i'm using r56

[fallow grove]

Which countries have chromium?

[dusky burrow]

I see

[trail beacon]

turkey, cuba

[icy crescent]

South Africa too.

[fallow grove]

Also why the us has no chromium

[trail beacon]

take it up with god. idk

[icy crescent]

They have Cuba for it.

[fallow grove]

I mean without trading

[fallow grove]

But Cuba has only like 10 chromium?

[icy crescent]

India has some Chromium.

And Yugoslavia.

Greece gets too.

[icy crescent]

Bro.

[fallow grove]

Oh yes

Cuba 😍

[icy crescent]

Resource Map ftw.

[dusky burrow]

chromium

[marble igloo]

Question related to this situation: I've come up with 2 division types for multiplayer anti-tank based infantry for minor nations.
Division 1: 18 width, 8/2 with the 2 being anti-tank units. Total hardness 2%, loses some soft attack, adds a lot of hard attack, loses ~9.5 org
Division 2: 18 width 8/1 with the 1 being a tank destroyer. Total hardness 10%, gains soft attack, adds a lot of hard attack but less than anti-tank 1, loses ~5.7 org

Does division 2 violate the stormtrooper rule?

[safe wing]

Turkey too

Turkey has a shitton of Chromium

[icy crescent]

It was mentioned already.

[safe wing]

oh mb didn't see

[icy crescent]

We forgive you.

[fallow grove]

You don’t need anti tank in mp you need tanks with the high velocity module

[safe wing]

USSR has alot of Chromium too

[fallow grove]

And they will do fine even against infantry

[marble igloo]

yes, but minor nations....

[trail beacon]

"it's not my chromium, it's our chromium"

[icy crescent]

You wouldn't invade the Soviets just for Chromium tho.

[trail beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[icy crescent]

You wouldn't invade Soviets just for Chromium, right?

[fallow grove]

Every German sweat lord invades soviets just for the memes

[remote quarry]

the question doesn't really make sense without context

like why and who are you fighting

[fallow grove]

AI Soviet is very incompetent

I’d say even worse than Italy

[remote quarry]

using line at in your div would most likely not help you

light tank destroyer perhaps

[marble igloo]

Simple example, Spain vs Germany. Turkey vs Soviet Union

[remote quarry]

but that's not the important part

[remote quarry]

you alt F4 because you can't win

or you just go mass mob

like poland vs germany

[marble igloo]

Nations with okay levels of steel, chromium, etc. production, teamed up with other majors, and playing a supportive role

[fallow grove]

You can hold them for a long time tho

[marble igloo]

Assume this is team vs team

[remote quarry]

you just go mass mob

[fallow grove]

Make forts or other stuff

[marble igloo]

2 majors 1 minor vs 2 majors 1 minor

[remote quarry]

it doesn't matter what you add to the division

you just need more

like poland can totally 1v1 germany

for most average germany players

[tranquil void]

the devs need to fix the invasion time from the US to Africa

Traveling from Florida takes much longer than traveling from Maine which it shouldnt

[remote quarry]

answer is to go mass mob

[marble igloo]

Alright, now what if, one of the sides, doesn't have a tank player at all

they have infantry + air

[remote quarry]

then you battlelan the mass mob

[marble igloo]

what do you do? convince one of the majors to go tanks?

Say the germany team. mid to late game. 1944, they have a strong tank division and can punch holes and encircle

And the other team, no tanks, they have air and naval supremacy

But their infantry keep breaking/losing the line

Is there a way to fix it

or is it past the point of no return

[remote quarry]

idk what to tell you

the thing about this game is that the player being good matters the most

telling people to "go make tanks" or whatever really doesn't do anything

[marble igloo]

That's true

[remote quarry]

if they don't know how to in the first palce

[marble igloo]

but like, you can give instructions on what type of tank design to build, tell them the individually pieces

it's voice chat

it's not like you can't communication

[remote quarry]

infantry(especially special forces) can attack

but you still need to know how to do it

the easiest division to make is just whatever mass mob inf you have

and you throw a bunch of CAS and battleplan

[remote quarry]

trust me it won't work out

especially in vanilla

we have tried it so many times

like, 50% of players can't learn how to last stand micro by us talking over a VC

in vanilla you need to do like 10 different things to have a tank that have more stat than a mass mob brick

[marble igloo]

It also depends on how fast the game is going

[remote quarry]

but in terms of difficulties it's usually the easies to make air, and CAS

[marble igloo]

and other factors

[remote quarry]

and you can somewhat push even with just a bunch of inf(assuming that the other side is bad as well)

[marble igloo]

I was just trying to prevent myself from falling into another terrible situation like it again

[remote quarry]

it's called "don't play a minor if the major is bad"

[marble igloo]

hard having 1 experienced player, 1 intermediate, and 1 noob vs 2 experienced players and 1 noob.

To be fair, i didn't know who i would end up paired with

[remote quarry]

you put the good player on important nations

[brittle cypress]

What lol

[remote quarry]

the universal rule for balancing

[marble igloo]

And i didn't want to play a major

[brittle cypress]

Also @marble igloo it’s called space marines not stormtroopers for future reference

[marble igloo]

I was also looking for a way to stall out a good player in a 1v1

[marble igloo]

ah, that's what i meant

But yes, what hardness% determines space marines?

not sure why i thought it was called stormtroopers

[remote quarry]

guess which side wins

[remote quarry]

as what nations

[remote quarry]

people usually judge it by the armor

but the armor is not what matters really

[marble igloo]

Basically any main land european nation against germany

[remote quarry]

well it depends on the player again

[marble igloo]

Okay, similar skill levels assumed

[remote quarry]

usually france is the best candidate for fastgaming

[remote quarry]

then you lose

[marble igloo]

Is there any country that CAN compete with germany on land in or around europe, like soviets?

on a similar skill level basis

now it also depends on if you're doing alt hist, hist, etc.

and what side-rules you apply

[languid patrol]

how long does this last

[remote quarry]

if I play soviet against my germany I will lose 100% the times

[remote quarry]

just very generally, annexing all of europe with collab means you have much more industry

than the soviet

[marble igloo]

Well let's say, limiters have been put on germany. They are allowed austria, but can't take czech, netherlands, begium, luxembourg, denmark, or poland until war world 2 (but world war 2 is allowed to start earlier like in 1938)

and it's pre-world war 2, but it's about to start

Who would be the best competitors, at that time, against germany

in your opinion

if you have 1 person on germany, and 1 person on any other country that is within europe's circle of influence(so like, no usa, japan, etc.)

and both players are not pros, but they understand how to make solid tank divisions, how to use mass mob infantry, they know how to maintain air superiority and micro air units, and they know how to last stand micro

[remote quarry]

that's the normal rule

[marble igloo]

So very hypothetically, but i'm mostly just seeing, on similar footing, what country competes best with germany

[remote quarry]

where germany wins 100% the times against anyone

[marble igloo]

Who lasts the longest?

which country could stall the longest and do the most damage

[remote quarry]

soviet because you go to war last...?

[sudden grotto]

Its oerm

Perm

You get a National spirit

So its perm

[marble igloo]

What if when world war 2 fires, the soviets get pulled in immediately?

then who do you think would be best, still the soviets?

[remote quarry]

well yeah

still because they are the largest

now basically the only way for you to win against germany on 1v1

is that you play soviet and you justify on germany day 1

because soviet start with the largest gun 1 stockpile in the world

[marble igloo]

Alright well thank you for the help and info

[fair horizon]

MODS HELP

[safe wing]

<@&846894118219022336> scam

[mild plaza]

Got it

[fair horizon]

ty chatkat

[fallow grove]

Do you guys ever got a ship sunk with mines?

Because I never got a single one

[remote quarry]

mines doesn't do much damage

[fallow grove]

Oh ok

[inner ocean]

Bloodiest 1EW ive seen

War lasted almost a year

[safe wing]

fun fact: out of all 7 majors germany has the fewest divisions 30

USSR has the most 138

[languid patrol]

AHHAHA

[safe wing]

wth is going on

[languid patrol]

i was at war with allies the whole time

[sudden grotto]

Lovely iraq moment

[sudden grotto]

Eisenstadt still standing

[placid radish]

indeed very interesting

[safe wing]

wtf did this do?

[inner ocean]

The Russians restored the empire

meanwhile the EU nations are turning to Marxism as the Americans did after the 2ACW

[safe wing]

ew

liberate my home country please

[inner ocean]

I backed the APLA since I am playing as China

[mossy escarp]

When you forget about the UK 💀

[safe wing]

nvm

[inner ocean]

Not the worst outcome in the war tbh since Atomwaffen exists in the mod

[safe wing]

fair but still

[sudden grotto]

The fact that the poteait exists but the game Just ignores It lol

Or you dont have the dlc

[inner ocean]

they did have an economic bounceback somehow tho

[sudden grotto]

Whats that rk between poland and ukriane

[mossy escarp]

SS ordanst wohyman

[icy crescent]

I am giving myself the challenge to play Portugal.
Releasing Mozambique and Andorra - as well as the Rif controlled by Spain as puppets.
And letting them form Latin-Africa, Mutapa and Maghreb.
But Non-Historical backfired.

[serene token]

I'm alive

[random snow]

Does anyone know why the air sky colors arent showing?

[sudden grotto]

Yet they still look at BBC

Why they have BBC Tab open

[inner ocean]

They like BBC

Also, Greek civil war

[bronze mango]

what if the european axis won ww2, leading to a 3 way(ish) cold war between the soviets, the germans and the americans

[mossy escarp]

How do I fix stalling front

[lapis snow]

stop overstacking

stop attacking

replenish your divisions and hold

[serene token]

Should I cancel the MEFO bills before I do the German civil war?

[bronze mango]

Yes

[fallow grove]

I think it would be great if once you complete the afrikakorps focus you can use blitzkrieg decisions in North Africa

Idk why they don’t show up there

[inner ocean]

Big things happening in the UK

[craggy trail]

[sudden grotto]

The rose looks like the tudor emblem lol

[inner ocean]

Just encircled like most of the IDF

PLA is OP

[serene token]

What's the best way to win the German Civil war?

[uneven portal]

push the center

and split them in half

ez win

[serene token]

Okay

[uneven portal]

Frontline the 24 shit inf that u get like thos

then use the 15 or so divisions that u kept as ur half of divisions near the middle

[normal basin]

Idk what ur tryna do but hold the front, don't attack, consolidate divisons and put them under one field marshal then make a new front, if u wanna try pushing use tanks with green air or you could try capturing all ports by naval invading using powerful amphibious tanks

[serene token]

I'm producing 9 inf divisions, could I deploy them to the middle with some others while I hold?

[heavy vigil]

Anyone played bolivia before?

[bright sinew]

aight tyall

my first ever white russian meme run is going great somehow

what path do i choose

for maximum overpower

because ngl i need some boosts