hoi4-general

[scenic moon]

Dummy

[misty fossil]

~

[fair horizon]

i do not care to cheat

[scenic moon]

I accidentally found out

Yeah i hate cheating too

[cedar lance]

i usually test out different mods

that are either old and new

and updated

i will mass produce ALL STUFF techs and equipments

[mellow jetty]

kek

[cedar lance]

XD OOF

[cedar lance]

what the fuf?

[uncut heath]

accept

[misty fossil]

i love cheating

if it lets you have fun why bother

this isnt real life

[cedar lance]

i do aswell

its very fun for me

[misty fossil]

tue

true

[cedar lance]

i do also spam out a LOT Of UNITS and DIVs

i usually use the Manpower command to get 100 mil manpower

[uneven portal]

wtf

the allies are taking an awful while to end this germany

[cedar lance]

XD OOF

[uneven portal]

it was looking great for the allies late 1944

[cedar lance]

alr

[uneven portal]

they had all of italy, most of the balkans, some of normandy and benelux beaches, all of vichy

but now its just a stalemate

[cedar lance]

damn

oof

who are you playing as

[uneven portal]

japan wasnt bombed in this timeline

[uneven portal]

i played as poland

and i gave up my land

[cedar lance]

oh alr

i mostly play Estonia

[uneven portal]

joined the war late 1944 when the allies looked like they were about to win

but no

the allies just held and let me die

😭

[cedar lance]

damn oof to you man

first time i played As germany i got rekt by poland

[uneven portal]

how

[cedar lance]

becus i put all of my units into 1 front

[uneven portal]

poland gets like no support from the allies

they get convoys as lendlease

[cedar lance]

alr

[uneven portal]

the allies dont care about poland

how did you die

[cedar lance]

i died becus i put ALL of my units and divs on 1 front in poland

[uneven portal]

bro STILL HOW

😭

[cedar lance]

i attacked the same area with all of my divs and units thats HOW

[uneven portal]

ur insane

ur the best at being the worst

[cedar lance]

ik

dont be soo judgy

im still learning

[uneven portal]

bro

germany is

op

[cedar lance]

yes ik

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195572031522095115/1405096003287257138/togif-53.gif

[uneven portal]

okay man whatever

i pray you get better at the game

[cedar lance]

dw i will

[uneven portal]

because thats just disappointing bro

😭

[cedar lance]

ik

jesus

dw i will get better

ik how to do some stuff

[atomic grove]

iraq was actually a little underrated all along

thank you for making me curious enough to try this

[slim nexus]

should i study or should i play hoi4

[misty fossil]

does that mean its op

is goe even fun in fact

[atomic grove]

yes

[misty fossil]

w explanation

[atomic grove]

but for the most fun

[misty fossil]

i mean

[atomic grove]

its india in my opinion

[misty fossil]

is it worth buying

[atomic grove]

no

[misty fossil]

LOL

[atomic grove]

you will not play india or any other middle eastern nation commonly

or like'

more common

(for the price)

however yes india is op

specifically

hindutva/netaji path

and nuclear gandhi path

its just that if u dont want your expansion to be softlocked by usa joining allies u will have to turn off historical

[mint adder]

I expected mexico focus tree to be better honestly, its not bad but just really slow

Industry part doesn’t give much

[remote quarry]

lotsa industry to take from a big nation in the north

[mint adder]

How can i take that industry if i have a small industry

It’s just really slow honestly

Not that bad

Its 1939 and i’m still upgrading to guns I

[abstract pawn]

Damn

[atomic grove]

just be fascist mexico

take central america and carribean

puppet spanish americas

[mint adder]

Im close to doing thay

That

[atomic grove]

kill uk

then kill usa

just make sure to rush down to the america focuses from the start though

otherwise

[mint adder]

The uk removed an appeasement thing

[atomic grove]

it will be harder

to kill them

dont kill usa yet though

[mint adder]

So i think theyre more active

[abstract pawn]

Can anyone help me by telling me the foci durations of the industrial and army branches from germany?

[atomic grove]

u will die if u do

[mint adder]

Im prob doing another run after this

I kinda messed up some stuff

[muted plank]

Det

[finite nacelle]

first time beating ussr🥳

[mint adder]

Why is it orange

[muted plank]

Nice

[pearl flume]

I wonder, what's the probability that in non historical mode, no nation goes a different path

Since it's random, it could happen

[muted plank]

Like 2%

[mint adder]

2% ??????

THIS HAPPENED TO ME LIKE ALWAYS

POLAND, GERMANY, USSR, JAPAN, UK AND FRANCE A TIME THEY ALL WENT HISTORICAL

A TIME WHERE I PUTTED NON HIST

[atomic grove]

what did u do

[mint adder]

Idk

This usually happened when i play a minor

[atomic grove]

why does it say free india

[mint adder]

Like hungary or czechoslovakia

[atomic grove]

usually its supposed to be called azad hind

[finite nacelle]

it fasict india

[atomic grove]

yeah ik but

how

[finite nacelle]

wdym

[mint adder]

Germany always eats rhineland

[atomic grove]

when india goes fascist, they usually become "azad hind"

[finite nacelle]

maybe you have dlc or a mod that change it?

[atomic grove]

i dont

[finite nacelle]

it always said free india

[rancid bramble]

[atomic grove]

i have played fascist india a lot of times and i have never gotten it to be called free india on map

wait

[atomic grove]

check indian focus tree

[finite nacelle]

what ab out it

[atomic grove]

did india go down league against gandhism

[finite nacelle]

that not a thing

[paper echo]

bro why does sweden not have any manpower

[atomic grove]

nordics doesnt have that much manpower

[paper echo]

yeah i hate that

[atomic grove]

if u want a lot of manpower as a nordic country

play denmark and then kill the uk

[paper echo]

ill force couples to produce more manpower 🔥

theyll be on the field since day 1

spartan way

[remote quarry]

walk over their whole nation with 2 width

[mint adder]

Um

Ok?

You sure it works

[remote quarry]

ofc

basically the only way to play mexico

[stark wedge]

hey, I formed the nordic empie as finland a couple days ago, I struggled with manpower too

but because you can get cores on estonia and leningrad through the finnish focustree, I got a lot more manpower

[paper echo]

alr

[uneven portal]

LOL

well that was fast

hitler already killed himself

[hexed karma]

i wanted to play hoi4 so bad but my pc is so lowend

8gm ram

250gb storage

[paper echo]

what cpu

that matters more

[uneven portal]

buddy these specs dont tell us if u can run it or not

whats ur cpu gpu

[scenic moon]

Intel integrated graphics 2000💥😈

[patent thistle]

there goes a large part of the german fleet

[scenic moon]

Stolen ship fleet

[hexed karma]

gpu - intel r udh graphics card, cpu - intel r core (tm) 2.10 GHz

[scenic moon]

Can i run with it

[scenic moon]

Ur as cooked as me💀💀

[hexed karma]

@uneven portal @paper echo

[scenic moon]

Bruh dont need to tag them

[hexed karma]

i believe, im more cooked 💀

[patent thistle]

bought ship fleet*

[hexed karma]

oh ok

[scenic moon]

In my experience i could run it however with minimum graphics

[scenic moon]

*Made a mod to steal ships

[hexed karma]

i couldn;t even get it on, it would fill my cpu and then auto disable

[fair horizon]

bro what the heck

why you got anime germany

and not anime ethopia?

[patent thistle]

i didnt make it my friend made it and i payed with civs which i permanently lose*

[patent thistle]

isnt done yet

world of anime isnt finished yet

cause you wouldnt think if it but i believe the Wizfer (the creator) has better stuff to do in the mod then making naval officers for ethiopia

[fair horizon]

smh

[patent thistle]

atleast akagi is proving her worth

[fair horizon]

akagi ❤️

[patent thistle]

more death and destruction

speaking btw of the ais ability with the mod to steal ships (soviet heavy cruiser)

you know its getting bad if the ai is trying to get out pre-dreadnoughts

[fair horizon]

lmao

its funny because they wouldnt be able to run from like half your ships due to speed difference

[mossy sable]

good game so far?

[fair horizon]

how does germany have so many ships?

buying them?

[mossy sable]

ty @patent thistle

[patent thistle]

ai shouldnt be able to buy them but again it can also be an oversite by my friend

[mossy sable]

won ww2 before france fell canonically

[patent thistle]

you can also buy ship construction bonis tho with other stuff like resources and that is what the ai CAN do

it just tends to be cheaper to buy the ships directly

[fair horizon]

i prefer building my own fleets personally

i like how australia has so many names for ships too

[patent thistle]

image being sunk by my one russian ship

[fair horizon]

my wyoming in war thunder when i get straddled by a marat

[uneven portal]

funny netherlands didnt want to return wilhelm so now i've got unlimited rubber

[lethal ether]

is rt56 ai alt history paths broken

its genuinely annoying atp

[ornate marlin]

i know hoi4 is much much more cpu intensive
but would a big jump in a gpu upgrade have any effect on how smooth the game runs
upgrading from 1660super to 9060xt

[heavy vigil]

Iraq is pretty fun, not that OP or interesting tho

[faint carbon]

yes, but please use F12 or ctrl+prnt/scrn and not phone camera

[misty fossil]

is brazil an interesting country to play as

[patent thistle]

me who doesnt have a GPU in my laptop and still can run hoi4 without too much issue till like 1950:

[neat kayak]

Best byzantium strat

[stark wedge]

bro it's 1940 germany, invade poland already

[nimble hornet]

somethings off here

[patent thistle]

you mean raeder being an anime girl?

[nimble hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/standing-on-top-enlightened-enlightenment-windy-wind-gif-18416422945658579589

[atomic grove]

when playing as fascist argentina, can you core all of latin america with this focus? or only south america?

[nimble hornet]

that and a Ethiopian navy

but who knows maybe raeder is a anime girl at heart

[stark wedge]

after 5 years of doing focuses, the ottomens are back

[nimble hornet]

everyone is screaming in vc im scared

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-have-to-be-the-bad-guy-you-dont-have-to-be-the-bad-guy-lego-movie-lego-movie-2-lego-batman-movie-gif-10938690056736395366

[patent thistle]

purchase ships mod my friend made and he would execute me for if i leaked any of it

[nimble hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/osamason-laser-eyes-osamason-osamason-edit-osamason-meme-gif-8512818593889051829

this him big bruh?

[noble shale]

When the new dlc?

[nimble hornet]

ehhh prolly soon

[fallen vigil]

so close to woman in a high castle

[patent thistle]

we got silksong before Japan rework- 💀

[terse ether]

average turkey gameplay

[nimble hornet]

AND before western europe rework

[noble shale]

We got silksong crashing the 4 horseman of the gaming industry before japan rework

[patent thistle]

and the USA rework

[noble shale]

[terse ether]

skibidi san ma rework 🔥

[noble shale]

And the luxemburg rework

[patent thistle]

and nintendo too, ig.

[noble shale]

What do you except i say lad?

[nimble hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-ridiculous-thats-not-ridiculous-to-say-that-thats-not-ridiculous-meme-gif-11489839477285394127

[terse ether]

technically luxembourg got reworked

[noble shale]

Nintendo, breadbox, toaster 5 and steam

[noble shale]

Focus tree

[terse ether]

they became 2 provinves instead of 1 in gdr

best update

[noble shale]

I mean having a focus tree

[terse ether]

oh

[noble shale]

Yes 2 provinces huge buff

[terse ether]

thats

double

[noble shale]

Luxemburg world conquest more easy

[patent thistle]

time for a stalin game, ig.

[noble shale]

[patent thistle]

(this time i deactivate the ship purchase mod)

i tend to deactivate it when i am doing a major

[slim nexus]

Gonna play hoi4 for the first time in a month

Probably isnt the best idea to play multiplayer

[serene inlet]

never capitulating final boss

[grizzled zenith]

I hate Stalin.

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao Crimea still standing

[serene inlet]

i forgot about it

[patent thistle]

they usally defend that harder for some reason then moscow

[sweet bone]

what is italy trying to do

[grizzled zenith]

Crimea is a good defensive position

[grizzled zenith]

It played a big part during the Russian Revolution

[patent thistle]

italy being italy?

[grizzled zenith]

I think it plans invading Yugoslavia

[sweet bone]

ya think?

[grizzled zenith]

From Zara

[patent thistle]

f it tell me a nation to play (my ethiopia game keeps crashing after the soviets capped)

[grizzled zenith]

France has a great capital.

[patent thistle]

that usally doesnt happen btw

[slim nexus]

Thats happened to me in a mp game before

[atomic grove]

denmark

[grizzled zenith]

Form the EU as France and then bring back the Napoleon

[slim nexus]

Netherlands

[atomic grove]

if germany does slovakia for danzig he has to restart

[serene inlet]

peak france gameplay

[sweet bone]

well who do you think is going to win?
allies + Romania + Czechoslovakia + Ukraine + Austria
or
Italy

[slim nexus]

Show the map

[grizzled zenith]

Nah WW2 still starts

[grizzled zenith]

One time Germany justified on Poland still for me and other time WW2 started when it attacked Yugoslavia

[slim nexus]

I half expected that

[grizzled zenith]

And then Poland joined lol

[slim nexus]

Not to that extent tho

[serene inlet]

to what extent

[slim nexus]

Maybe like the baltics

Eastern europe

[sweet bone]

bingo

[serene inlet]

mass mob going strong

lmao

[heavy vigil]

You gotta upgrade the gun for mass mob

1936 guns are trash

[serene inlet]

didnt bother

i will

for USA

might just call it ngl

i dont wanna run around doing naval invasions it sounds boring

[patent thistle]

if i hear fr*nce, one, more, time, i will burn down paris.

without any hesitation.

[serene inlet]

france is a very fun country

[slim nexus]

Stop swearing

[grizzled zenith]

It is

[serene inlet]

how come i built like 10 billion civs in italy but still cant integrate

and also lended them 2k convoys

lol

[patent thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/pong-krell-clone-wars-rex-execution-gif-26976465

[serene inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-bonaparte-napoleon-bonaparte-france-gif-8792903734324854083

[grizzled zenith]

What about Yugoslavia? It can be fun if you go communist/fascisr via a civil war and then break down Yugo and core like Hungary, Bulgaria and Transylvania

That's how I got Huge-o-Slavia achievement

[patent thistle]

yugoslavia i do

[patent thistle]

achievements however i dont do, i hate playing on ironman mode since my game tends to crash at random times

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

I just play on Ironman and copy my save file somewhere if I want a save

[grizzled zenith]

Also this path is very strong it gives you a lot of free divisions with max training from ur puppets allowing you to take out Romania and most of your neighbours

The only issue is manpower

[grizzled zenith]

Since ur just Serbia

[agile panther]

Guys what you think about minarchism

[grizzled zenith]

It's based

[patent thistle]

i just do the split up path since its in my opinion the strongest

[grizzled zenith]

It is

Communist path is useless

[patent thistle]

guess it gives me a reason to activate the purchase ships mod again

[tiny tartan]

just take crimea

[grizzled zenith]

Why?

[patent thistle]

i deactivate it with majors but i activate it if i am not a major and at threat early

[grizzled zenith]

Like why do you want to purchase ships?

Your coastline are puppets who you just don't call to arms

[grizzled zenith]

Most of it is Croatia

[patent thistle]

i just like it because of how stupid it is to own the akagi or other ships like it as a minor

[agile panther]

What is the best ideology

[patent thistle]

depends on your playstyle

[grizzled zenith]

Depends on what you want

[patent thistle]

and depends on your nation

[agile panther]

For Ukraine

[patent thistle]

if you are a minor with little manpower communism

[grizzled zenith]

In vanilla? Or what mod

[agile panther]

Rt56

[patent thistle]

i am pretty sure the fascist path is quite alright

[grizzled zenith]

In R56 I played as non alinged Ukraine I think?

[grizzled zenith]

But what Ukraine, Carpatho Ukraine or normal Ukraine?

[agile panther]

Normal

[patent thistle]

gives wargoal on poland and demands on your land from romania

if i remember it correctly

[grizzled zenith]

I only played as Carpatho Ukraine but for normal Ukraine I think I liked fascist/non alinged(it is kinda shared) the most

[drowsy arrow]

hmm

[grizzled zenith]

Are you releasing Ukraine from Poland or from Czechoslovakia btw?

[agile panther]

You can as Russia

[grizzled zenith]

You can?

In vanilla hoi4 you can't

[agile panther]

Second Russian civil war

[grizzled zenith]

So I assumed it was the same in R56

[grizzled zenith]

Oh

Ok

I just released myself as Carpatho Ukraine by starting as Czechoslovakia

It was quite fun

[heavy vigil]

Hi dawn hru?

[grizzled zenith]

KX is so schizo

Why can I take Habsburg as my leader lol

And he is the leader of Austria

And it affects nothing

There should be like unification or something

[grizzled zenith]

Still Malta is so fun

[grizzled zenith]

I literally can declare on Austria after taking Habsburg lmao

Karl von Habsburg doing some Palpatine shit

[fallen vigil]

YAYY I FINALLY AM ABOUT TO COMPLETE WOMAN IN A HIGH CASTLE AFTER LIKE 20 ATTEMPTS

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

Ny game ended up in a WC

[grizzled zenith]

How is Canada not in a war?

[young drift]

var gel dm

[grizzled zenith]

Is that non historical?

[slim nexus]

Is 16 the best combat width for defense

[fallen vigil]

wdym

[grizzled zenith]

I mean shouldn't the US be in the Allies?

Somewhere in 1941

[fallen vigil]

i invaded france and the UK in 1937

[grizzled zenith]

Oh

[fallen vigil]

and i puppeted canada

[grizzled zenith]

Ohhh

[fallen vigil]

and annexed a small part of it

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

[young drift]

@mellow fox Türk var

türk müsün

[grizzled zenith]

This chat is getting occupied by Turks

[strong belfry]

did you said totya :O?

[strong belfry]

frfr ban them

jk

[young drift]

adem adem ne orospu cocugu

yarrak yarrak

[grizzled zenith]

U don't like Adem?

[strong belfry]

adem isnt a turkish name buddy

[young drift]

you are turkish bro

[strong belfry]

Im kurdish mate

[young drift]

🤣

[strong belfry]

🙏

[grizzled zenith]

A war is about to break out

[fallen vigil]

YESS DID IT IN JULY 1941

the fact is it took me like

11 attempts

to master it

[strong belfry]

bruh why his message got deleted

[fallen vigil]

first i had to master the civil war then i had to master invading france and the UK then finally the US

[grizzled zenith]

Those are the only screens of my game I have left, this is pretty much a WC I just need to annex Ukraine and annex a few nations

[safe wing]

same ideolgy my ass

[fallen vigil]

yk i had like 1200 hours in hoi4 and never invaded britain or capped the allies in ironman mode

once i figured out how

its been the easiest thing oat

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah

It is very easy once you know how to destroy the Allied fleet in 100 different ways

[scenic moon]

Greetings

[grizzled zenith]

Hi

[strong belfry]

nobody cares about achievements

dont worry

[grizzled zenith]

I just do some hard achievements sometimes when I don't know who to play as

[grizzled zenith]

Some of them are very fun

[strong belfry]

play with mods

[scenic moon]

Achivments are interesting challenges

[strong belfry]

too boring

[grizzled zenith]

That doesn't fix the issue that I don't know who I want to play as

Sometimes you get tired of mods

[scenic moon]

Spin a wheeel

[strong belfry]

have you ever tried kaiserredux

you should try

[grizzled zenith]

Malta is very fun

Also I tried KX Ukraine

And Albania

[grizzled zenith]

Oh, and Jesus Poland

[strong belfry]

oh i heard that but never tried

[grizzled zenith]

It's a meme path

It is very strong

You annex and core Galicia-Lodomeria for free and then core the world in a few focuses after that

[fallen vigil]

im tryna do all achievements

[grizzled zenith]

Same

[grizzled zenith]

Did you do Huge-o-Slavia achievement?

It was very fun when I tried

[fallen vigil]

nuh uh

all us achievements that i did were very fun

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

I got tired of playing Poland to get Wojtek

[patent thistle]

and this is why i love this mod

[grizzled zenith]

How's Yugo doing?

[patent thistle]

i didnt get to do much my main focus was buying the akagi and some support ships (since it was still relatively cheap for now)

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[patent thistle]

they tend to get somewhat expensive if you wait longer

since then the obvious need for ships becomes more obvious

[grizzled zenith]

Btw ur gonna lose all your coastline to ur puppets

[slim nexus]

Ive never been to turkey

[prime lintel]

can I post screenshots of mods?

[slim nexus]

Is ts fine

[prime lintel]

after 3rd Weltkreig in KR

[grizzled zenith]

Are you Yugoslavia?

[prime lintel]

Yes

[patent thistle]

i am well aware of that fact

now let me start properly

[grizzled zenith]

K

[prime lintel]

I just make some puppets

[grizzled zenith]

Cool

[slim nexus]

Is this a meta or meta division

[grizzled zenith]

Meta for garrisons if you add military police, but other than that nah

[atomic grove]

now that i think about it

[grizzled zenith]

This cars suck mechanized is better for normal divisions

[atomic grove]

literally no one uses armored cars practically

[slim nexus]

No armored cars are tuff

[slim nexus]

Everyone does

[grizzled zenith]

Everyone uses mechanized lol

[rustic python]

no this is

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah, Amtraks are better

[grizzled zenith]

They're actually the best ones since they get all the special forces buffs

[sweet bone]

never playing non-historical again

[grizzled zenith]

What are the stats

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[rustic python]

its BLACKICE stats so differs from vanilla

[grizzled zenith]

In non historical Mexico drags the US into the allies instead of Japan

[grizzled zenith]

Ohh

I've never played black ice

[rustic python]

its lovely

[grizzled zenith]

I don't like managing 200 different production lines for just infantry

[rustic python]

if you like suffering and information overload

infantry is not really important in bice

[grizzled zenith]

I like suffering that's why I played Luxembourg with no paratroopers but I don't like information overload at all

[grizzled zenith]

Lmao

[grizzled zenith]

Actually that's insane production

[rustic python]

it goes on though lmao

[cedar lance]

i like BICE a LOT

[sweet bone]

bro is not winning the US, Britain, Indonesia, France, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Romania at once

[rustic python]

BICE is life

[grizzled zenith]

Ukraine??

[cedar lance]

BICE is LIFE

[sweet bone]

УПА*

[grizzled zenith]

Nice

[cedar lance]

i like the amount of combat battalions in BICE

[grizzled zenith]

UAA/USTGR/TLH?

[scenic moon]

Wym

[rustic python]

and then ofc as Germany u get SS forces

as soviets u get the guard divisions

[cedar lance]

yes ik

i do play as Estonia in any and all mods

[sweet bone]

the us just joined the czech entente (my alliance) to fight the mexicans

should i send volunteers?

[grizzled zenith]

What mod are you playing?

[rustic python]

and the ship builder is just awesome in BICE

[cedar lance]

i like the Combat battalions in BICE

[sweet bone]

Ukraine Above All and hitler with glasses

[grizzled zenith]

Oh

[grizzled zenith]

I guessed it right

[rustic python]

YUP

[terse ether]

requires way too many braincells for a video game

[rustic python]

or the fact that u can get DUAL ROLE AA/AT guns like the 8,8

[cedar lance]

like you can make a lot of NEW templates with em

[terse ether]

i like bice, though i always use the preset designs

[cedar lance]

i like BICE becus of the combat battalions

[terse ether]

dont worry sir, the ship should be ready by 1954!!!

[grizzled zenith]

I just like vanilla suffering I don't like the tons of information from BICE

[grizzled zenith]

1954? More like 3088

[cedar lance]

viki show me the combat battalions in BICE

@rustic python

[patent thistle]

who needs an economy if you can buy a part of the japanese fleet

amr?

[cedar lance]

yes

good

[cedar lance]

nice

[cedar lance]

nice

[reef sail]

You are planning something mischievous

I can feel it but can't prove it

[cedar lance]

@rustic python show me the ss battalions now

and SF ones aswell

btw who here has or still plays BICE

[sudden thistle]

Me

[cedar lance]

nice

me too

[ionic crescent]

Damn landcruisers are wild

[patent thistle]

i do at times when i want to suffer

[cedar lance]

alr XD

[ionic crescent]

600 soft attack

[cedar lance]

i like BICE becus of the combat units

[patent thistle]

try moving them now through winter and mud

[ionic crescent]

SIGH

In general id say they arent worth the massive investment. I was using 100 steel with five factories

[nimble hornet]

Who wants to do a historical mp game

[rustic python]

SS units are just regular units but as SS forces so for example SS medium tank SS advanced medium tank etc

[cedar lance]

alr

[ionic crescent]

But they are cool so idc

[cedar lance]

show me the SF units

[patent thistle]

its like a steriod situation that super heavies used to be in elsewell

[rustic python]

there is these and then u have specialized support companies

for example airborne light tanks etc

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[patent thistle]

but alteast those are also now a support company

meaning they CAN be usable

[cedar lance]

nice

[rustic python]

this one for example is airborne

[craggy trail]

[rustic python]

theres also amphibious tanks

and obviously lots of historical tank designs but youre not forced to use them

[sudden kernel]

how to kill the commies hiding in the mountains as roc early on (like 1937)

[rustic python]

high org units and air superiority i would think

[sudden kernel]

thx

[cedar lance]

BICE is the best mod ive ever played on hoi4

[dawn brook]

I'm gonna try to play monarchist hungary wish me luck

[sudden kernel]

whats a good defense infantry unit

anyone got like a good unit guide

[patent thistle]

what the f boris it isnt even 1937 yet how- 😭

[north spoke]

is it better to have 18-24 of mid tank divisions or 8-9 good tank divisions

[patent thistle]

quality goes always over quanity

[north spoke]

ok

idk any good tank divisions or tnak templates

[patent thistle]

with the AI you can basically use anything

you really do not need tanks most of the time, atleast if you arent doing endsieg

[north spoke]

I just want something thats good for pushing past belgium and into france without going through the netherlands

[buoyant rivet]

the greek meatgrinder

[north spoke]

average italian fumble

[buoyant rivet]

9,000:200,000 casualty ratio is insane

[dawn brook]

that isn't boris bro what the hell 😭

[north spoke]

wtf is boris-chan doing in hoi4

[dawn brook]

i am curious abt how Horthy looks on that mod but i don't wanna cry

[patent thistle]

anime mod

world of anime

easy puppet ig

[north spoke]

sigma of iron better mod

trust

[dawn brook]

i unironically use it on every modpack i have

[hollow skiff]

Why do you hate yourself?

[north spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[hollow skiff]

You can talk about it yk? 🥺

[dawn brook]

hell yeah 🗣️ 🔥 🇭🇺

[north spoke]

idk, if germany also goes monarchist going with monarchist hungary is pretty peak

[dry kayak]

chad face ahahahahahahha

[rustic furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[hollow skiff]

Trueeeeeee

[north spoke]

germany gives you burgerland for free

[dawn brook]

i must take the glorious Magyar King Miklós Horthy to glory

[hollow skiff]

Lmao 😂

[dawn brook]

Horthy Miklós katonaja vagyok 🗣️ 🔥 🇭🇺

[dry kayak]

guys, why everytime i'm getting bigger Reich always team up with DAM MONARCHIST BRITS ahahah

[dawn brook]

Milk MacArthur

[north spoke]

lowk i dont understand why the improved state mods add 123091230 unnessecary states and only like, 20 actually reasonable changes/additions

[rustic furnace]

idk, playing that mod without toolpack is pain

[north spoke]

real

its such a pain

and all the good ones havent been updated in years

[dawn brook]

i wish the separatist movements mod was updated

[fierce mist]

Hoi4 sp would be 10x better if we had decent ai not sheep ai mod level and not the current state in the middle

i hope paradox fixes the AI

[heavy vigil]

which one is it

[north spoke]

more and better states

[cedar lance]

should i play BICE again

[rustic furnace]

no

Why would you choose to suffer

[cedar lance]

becus i want to

[zealous oar]

can someone play with me? (im a super noob)

[ripe harness]

Hi @mild plaza I sent you a friend request regarding a serious issue that needs staff attention. Could you please accept it when you have a moment? Thank you!

[patent thistle]

OH COME ON ROMANIA

HOW

(bulgaria is my puppet)

[sudden grotto]

I suggest you to open up a ticket

So more staff can see It and help ya out

You can open It by dming the pdx bot

[patent thistle]

mfs didnt even guard the south-

[buoyant rivet]

is this an ok template?

Ive seen tractors recomended but they are special forces

[heavy vigil]

Dm @grizzled delta instead of dming/direcrly contacting moderation please

This goes for any and all of the staff team

[eternal palm]

2/10 rage bait try again

Amtracs are insane

Use them if you get the chance

[buoyant rivet]

I am 30 hours in, I dont know enough about hoi4 to rage bait

[buoyant rivet]

yes but they are limited

[eternal palm]

Do sf exploit

eZ

[eternal palm]

Sure bud

[buoyant rivet]

thats-

[sudden thistle]

Why and how tf are u using tanks after 30 hours

[eternal palm]

Did u watch a segl video per chance?

[buoyant rivet]

yes

[eternal palm]

Ah ok that explains it

Good shit, keep it up man

Ur already so much better than most of the Community

[buoyant rivet]

he really hates singleplayer XD

[patent thistle]

they got what they deserved, should have actually punished them more

[eternal palm]

He doesn't hate it, it's just that sp is trivial

[worn lintel]

Joint soviet-ukranian encirclement operation is almost done

[eternal palm]

And mp is insanely fun

[buoyant rivet]

idk seems pretty hard so far - however his tips on holding infantry are insanely good

[eternal palm]

Nah he's pretty spot on

Also you're 50 hours in how can you even make that call yet

[patent thistle]

mp is fun with especially people you know

[buoyant rivet]

misunderstanding

[eternal palm]

Right, got it

[buoyant rivet]

ive lost 12k infantry, my enmy lost 600k infantry

ive taken 0 provinces

and lost 0 provinces

once these tanks are done I will take them down

860k rather

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I mean his tips are insane, like insane good not bad

[eternal palm]

I know segl, played with him a couple times

He's a cool guy

[buoyant rivet]

im playing with the extended special projects mod as well

[eternal palm]

What the bloat?

[buoyant rivet]

so my defences are just so powerful

[eternal palm]

Don't do that man

[dreamy plaza]

Hello

[dawn brook]

what's up

[buoyant rivet]

my first 20ish hours were last year with four friends of mine who taught me the game in MP

so 26 hours of singleplayer and it doesnt seem trivial xd

[mild plaza]

If you're got something you want to discuss with the mod team you should DM the @grizzled delta and make a ticket. Since thats where reports are supposed to go

[buoyant rivet]

Which support vechile do I make?

[eternal palm]

Well compare that to segl and myself, who have upwards of 5000 hours, it becomes trivial

[buoyant rivet]

that makes sense

[eternal palm]

The cheapest one

They're all the same

[buoyant rivet]

Ah shit

the bulgarians declared war and Im starting to get pushed back

[serene token]

Get your units to a defensive line

[buoyant rivet]

? they both have front line orders

[sudden thistle]

why are u using heavies in a mountain

[buoyant rivet]

I dont know?

[lapis snow]

yeah but 5 are on one tile and some other tiles have just 1

you'll get encircled

[buoyant rivet]

the five tile is only because of my assault army

I want to push into that province

I am training some cheap holding infantry to strengthen the rest of the line

[serene token]

Better get those guys out now.

[buoyant rivet]

oh yeah its all falling apart

[serene token]

Did they get surrounded?

[buoyant rivet]

no but u were right, the single infantry guy got pushed and broke

whats the god damn point of being in the allies if no one is gonna help me

im fighting germany, italy, bulgaria and romania

and not a single ally is here

[lapis snow]

date?

[buoyant rivet]

1940

[trim pike]

@worn lintel

Dont use external emojis

[slim nexus]

They ain't coming

[lapis snow]

yeah allies are programmed not to put troops in europe that early

[buoyant rivet]

so dumb

[serene token]

I can see where you can make a hold.

[buoyant rivet]

france has fallen

[slim nexus]

Is the Soviet ai also programmed to get their ass kicked everytime aswell?

[buoyant rivet]

OMG the soviets are dead

[slim nexus]

Serious questiob

[buoyant rivet]

I didnt even notice

how does that happen

its 1940!!!

[slim nexus]

By Germans??

[serene token]

Show us the map.

[buoyant rivet]

yes

[slim nexus]

That's a year to early

[icy crescent]

https://tenor.com/u0b4mYojQPD.gif

[slim nexus]

What happened

[gleaming acorn]

There's nothing we can do mate

[buoyant rivet]

turkey just naval invaded me

its a 6 v 1

[slim nexus]

Yeah man I see this as in axis win

[lapis snow]

well, no. But actually yes. Paradox hasn't balanced them well with the new German content so they get rolled often now. They never have the military or industrial depth that they should and there's little to simulate the heavy lifting of lend-lease they had irl

[slim nexus]

Fair

[buoyant rivet]

or the pure number of divisions they should have

[slim nexus]

But not

[buoyant rivet]

germany often has the same amount if not more

[heavy vigil]

Most of the war they fought without LL tho

Soviet industry was massive and powerful

[slim nexus]

I'm fighting USSR with the allies

[icy crescent]

They often make weak purge decision, wrecking their army power.
But don't wait too long because nobody has fun fighting lategame Soviets.

[slim nexus]

They are holding so well

[lapis snow]

after countenance it ramped up, but yes by that point they had blunted barb

[buoyant rivet]

my defensive line broke, no more forts for entrenchment

and now im losing

WHY IS SPAIN THERE?

[slim nexus]

Is that most of ur army encircled??

[buoyant rivet]

Yes sir

[gleaming acorn]

bros entire army is about to get cooked

ggs

[slim nexus]

Only one Spanish divisiob

[lapis snow]

volunteers prolly

[icy crescent]

It was a good run there.
Holding out a solid time.

[misty fossil]

holy

[glass crescent]

I tried naval invading Germany and this time idk what happened. I got to Berlin and suddenly started getting pushed back out and had to retreat to Britain after I liberated it

[gleaming acorn]

allies or something maybe

[buoyant rivet]

im pushing my entire front back to athens

see if I can break the encirclement

[buoyant rivet]

sadly my holding infantry have only got 76 breakthrough

its not optimal

[slim nexus]

Dang

Which country u playing

[scenic moon]

Is this real

[glass crescent]

Iceland

[glass crescent]

Yes road to 56 is fun tho

[serene token]

I'ma show you what my run currently looks like when I get home.

[scenic moon]

Spain

[serene token]

I'm playing as Poland (Anna)

I plan on striking the Germans, but my lines are paper fin, and its almost 1939

[glass crescent]

I went communist to join the comintern

And Russia is losing heavily they aren't keeping Moscow this time

I actually think I'm gonna lose this war

[serene token]

I could probably strike the Russians because they are in a civil war.

[glass crescent]

To be fair I did install a mod that makes the German ai smart

[gaunt thorn]

why cant i do this

[buoyant rivet]

You dont fully control all the owned states

[slim nexus]

Crazy

[gaunt thorn]

dyk which one it might be

cuz i control everything

wait

might be greece

[buoyant rivet]

I think the key word might be fully

I dont know honestly

[gaunt thorn]

is it any state you are occupying

[lapis snow]

no

[gaunt thorn]

ill clean up greece and see

[lapis snow]

its any state that is yours "owned" through peacedeal + whatever you got from start/events

if you are being occupied anywhere, that is blocking the decision

[buoyant rivet]

I gave up

but not bad

pretty insane ratio

[gaunt thorn]

is it norway

[serene token]

It was decent still.

[gaunt thorn]

i think it is

[lapis snow]

how could I possibly know?

I'm not in your game to check

[serene token]

Either Norway or Solvakia.

[gaunt thorn]

tysm guys

it's defo norway

[trim pike]

Still at war

Force a peace deal

[gaunt thorn]

HOLY

[wanton whale]

C O N V O Y

[gaunt thorn]

SPAIN IS TAKING UK

[buoyant rivet]

yeah I feel like greece might be one of the hardest countries

[serene token]

The Spanish Armada finally arrived.

[buoyant rivet]

you are surrounded by facists

you have a default tree

and you have AWFUl starting civs/mils

[serene token]

Do you have DLC's?

[buoyant rivet]

thats all I have

gotterdammerung I got recently because I really love the civilian reactors

[serene token]

Get Bosperous if you want an updated Greece tree.

[buoyant rivet]

I really dislike that focus trees are hidden behind dlcs. I understand content, but focus trees are so basic to a nation

[serene token]

I think the non alt focus is in the Base, the Alt ones are in the DLC.

[buoyant rivet]

Greece is definetly the default tree

[serene token]

I think the Bosperous is like 10 dollars.

[buoyant rivet]

yeah 8 quid

[wanton whale]

Belgium gets default if you don't have gotterdammerung

[serene token]

Ooh

[trim pike]

Niceee

[wanton whale]

I love breaking the maginot with only infantry and a dream (Ignore how I had the biggest airforce)

[dawn brook]

1939 btw 💔

[wanton whale]

Why is Switzerland at war

[dawn brook]

they joined the czech entente

[wanton whale]

That's probably why Germany is loosing

[icy crescent]

They rolled in the cheese wheels down the mountains.
(They destroy anything in their paths.)

[misty fossil]

w borders

[fair horizon]

france had planes too, would have been unfair if you didnt use yours

[wanton whale]

True, true. I mean, they USE to have planes

[heavy vigil]

Which

[wanton whale]

🔥

[dawn brook]

well

[gaunt thorn]

how do u wp them, console isnt working

[icy crescent]

The Danes.

[dawn brook]

what the hell

[heavy vigil]

Because states you annexed in a peacedeal/decision are occupied

Probably africa or norway

[gaunt thorn]

can i force wp any way

[heavy vigil]

With cheats?

[gaunt thorn]

or do a command that lets the decision be done

[gaunt thorn]

yes

[heavy vigil]

Tag to the war leader of other side, ask for conditional surrender

If that doesnt work then without mods no

[frank estuary]

POV: You've soloed a hyper-war against the Allies, but now Brazil and Communist China (somehow alive and in the Allies) are now major powers. Now you (Austria-Hungary) are left to micro all the Middle East and North Africa whilst you bring you're armies back from North America, just to see that Spain and Italy have each put their 150+ divisions on the Eastern Front because Bulgaria declared on the Soviets, had a civil war, and joined the Comintern (Spain and Italy are still at war with the Soviets). Now you (Austria-Hungary) are left to micro all the Middle East and North Africa whilst you bring you're armies back from North America.

[heavy vigil]

You can do allowdiplo

Itll let you ask for the conditional surrender

Tag back to GER and accept

[gaunt thorn]

wont i lose stuff then

[main raptor]

wtf

[heavy vigil]

No

[gaunt thorn]

oh wait

[frank estuary]

On historical btw.

[main raptor]

Spanish is really powerful in alt-historical games

[ripe slate]

If you go austria hungary as player, everyone will cancel historical AI, so you might as well be playing on ahistorical

[main raptor]

omg

[gaunt thorn]

by the time i get to ger

it refused

[north tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOyyKKqsZKI

[heavy vigil]

Pause the game

Spacebar

Probably reload autosave ai messes your organization up when its unpaused

[elder depot]

Chinese United Front.

[rustic python]

...

theyre free

[glass crescent]

Update

Ussr capitulated

[glass crescent]

I'm cooked

[misty fossil]

this is absurd

ive never seen them stack the home islands like this

[main raptor]

bruh

[slim nexus]

Yessss

[zinc rune]

are you kidding me

[main raptor]

lol is that historical?

[zinc rune]

i have many questions

[zinc rune]

very

[main raptor]

im not stupid but historical sometimes gets a bit ahistorical

[onyx pendant]

QUANITY OVER QUALITY

[sudden thistle]

u sent this like 3 times lol

[rose prawn]

Are you winning

or losing

[rustic python]

not sure

im launching a last offensive before winter

with 8 new tank divisions arriving

[rose prawn]

why not capture leningrad

by pressuring it from finland

[wanton whale]

Hush

I must flex

[rustic python]

too fortified in BICE

[wanton whale]

Questions

[rustic python]

i took it though

[rose prawn]

why not bomb the forts

[rose prawn]

ah good

[rustic python]

airports are the main issue im building more

BICE has 10 times more air zones

[rose prawn]

why havent u helped finland to clear kola peninsula

[misty fossil]

i might be in trouble

[rustic python]

no infrastructure, supply is 10x harder in BICE lmao

like fr fr

on it rn

[wanton whale]

Need.... More.... Infantry

[obsidian token]

hello i need some opinions

[ripe slate]

Go ahead

[rustic python]

this is the supply infrastructure around here in BICE

i took the most important depot now theyre doomed

[obsidian token]

basically i wanna play mexico and im not sure if i should annex panama and core it or puppet it and try to get panama to form grancolumbia so i can have a strong puppet

[signal hazel]

pretty new player here, how do i launch a naval invasion lol

[obsidian token]

actually i wanna trey peru real quick

[rose prawn]

I don't think puppets are allowed to click formables

they have to be free to do it

[rustic python]

this offensive will end them @rose prawn

anyways i need to hurry because winter is coming

and im playing against a friend so they know whats up

[small kelp]

chat how do i play as 1 nation with 2 ppl controling it in mp

[rustic python]

COOP mode

[hushed chasm]

Who is the friend playing as?

[rustic python]

soviets

[ripe slate]

Puppets can do formables afaik

[hushed chasm]

Oof, game is pretty much over if he's lost this much

[hushed chasm]

Depends on the formable, some can and others can't be formed while a puppet

[agile tundra]

why so small economy

[rose prawn]

here is hoping

[slim nexus]

I got like 186 heavy tank brigade nearly done

Geez

[heavy vigil]

No

Only certain formables

Like transcaucasia, east african federation for example

Typically "minor" formables

[jovial ore]

what </3

[wanton whale]

It's 1941

[wanton whale]

Give my current production 2 years and I'll have 186 1.5k soft attack heavy tank divisions finished

[slim nexus]

When did Vegeta get into historical politics

[halcyon radish]

would somebody help me to play this game?

[jovial ore]

spending your entire life under a tyrant changes a man

[rustic python]

its messy af

hes trying to cut me off im trying to encircle his northern army

im getting it

D:

[zenith charm]

i have yet to try germany on bice

[fair horizon]

tommy uploaded a fallout mod video the day after i talk about it 🤔

you can come up with your own ideas you know tommy

[jovial ore]

what is black ice again? like the concept behind the mod?

[zenith charm]

make hoi4 hard

very hard

[jovial ore]

ah

[brittle cypress]

Over complicate things for no reason and make the game unplayable

[zenith charm]

its not unplayable if you lock in

[rustic python]

just in time - winter is here

[rose prawn]

damn

its huge

how many divisions does soviets have?

[rustic python]

theyll replace them in 4 months

lmao

[rose prawn]

dang

[rustic python]

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