hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

gn

vietnamese here, you tell me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628337044808138762/1378230280816693299/truth_wmg.gif

[sharp sierra]

funny how the shirt suggests it ever stopped

[misty fossil]

It never does

How it feels to read something thats not reputable like reuters

in vietnam theres a saying that goes along the line of “those who didnt pay attention in class grow up to be journalists”

while i always find that remark to be very distasteful i can see where thats coming from

and i would not trust uninformed/ill-informed laymen to cover stuff like this anyway

[hoary mortar]

banger gif, now i wanna know where thats from

[misty fossil]

Space battleship yamato

[hoary mortar]

also dang Vietnamese cool, but sucks what CIA did to your country

[misty fossil]

hapens

happens

[hoary mortar]

Nice, I forgot about that show. Just a giant laser onboard lmao

[hoary mortar]

Libya: IT SURE DOES

[misty fossil]

Foreign intervention probably set us back 100 years

culturally we’re in the 60s rn

[hoary mortar]

damn

i oughta research into modern vietnam again

Anyways gn!

[misty fossil]

gn

@sharp sierra i listen to these 2 guys
https://youtube.com/@hypohystericalhistory8133?si=JksKJCRaSnxVELAF and
https://youtube.com/@perunau?si=vDhb1CQ5lMxtkdQa

not sure about perun but hypo is a phd candidate

[cerulean orchid]

indian japan yum

[plucky sedge]

no way that flag bug still hasnt been fixed

[sharp sierra]

this wis what the liberals want

[misty fossil]

yeah i feel like the article is poorly written

passive sonar has always been a thing

i mean yeah passive sonar is better because it doesnt give your position away

[cerulean orchid]

now i gotta cap brazil

[sharp sierra]

GUYS its over and its BAD news for RUSSIAN submarines

[misty fossil]

but integrating ai isnt so useful if you cant hear anything

like

[sharp sierra]

do they have missiles that fly and then go into the water after the submarine

[misty fossil]

the australian collins sub (old 1970s subs) are as loud as ocean background noise when travelling slowly, thats how lethal they are, and imagine how even more quiet and powerful ssn aukus will be

its just trying to prevent cavitation and not let the machinery noises leak out of the hull

[sharp sierra]

do you watch a gaming channel called wolfpack345 or something similar

[misty fossil]

no

OH i do

the thing about having an ssn is the subs can cover basically the entire west pacific without the need to resurface or refuelling

so the chinese will have to dedicate the entire naval force to find subs that are no louder than the quietest room in the world, and quite literally across the entire pacific

its like finding mh370

i agree that 368bn aud is expensive, but a lot of that money goes into building the nascent australian military shipbuilding complex and specialised manpower training to sustain said naval shipbuilding over time

[digital aurora]

Should I put battle cruisers with my cruisers as a fast strike force?

[misty fossil]

that 368bn doesnt come out of nowhere, rather its the consequence of neglecting the armed forces from a strategic and operational perspective

if previous administrations had put more money into the armed forces we would be looking at a <200bn price tag for the subs

same circumstances as the sorry state of nato armies as a result of freeloading off of the us armed forces

and the forward defense policy pre-1970/ that focused on anti-insurgency instead of high intensity conventional warfare

[misty fossil]

BCs are useless

well

its usable but id just build BBs

and refit the BCs with full anti air

and one dual purpose module

what fast strike force?

[digital aurora]

I’m already spending 100~ ish days to refit one of them

[misty fossil]

generally you put fast ships together and slow ships in a separate TF

[misty fossil]

dont refit armour and engines

keep them

you get more value out of building new hulls

[digital aurora]

Honestly I’m making 4 lines of battle ships at 0.97 per year

And I wanna mix it up a lil

[misty fossil]

I feel like someone should step up and compile an in depth tutorial on playing navy

i play with a navy rework mod that revamps the entire thing

so i cant speak for vanilla

[misty fossil]

asroc?

[cerulean orchid]

indian empire aah

[winter urchin]

@regal river did your internet go down?

[dire lynx]

only thing that's missing is india owning the entirety of the east and west indies..

[cerulean orchid]

i have the east indies puppeted

yes im democratic but i didnt really want to take a whole lot of land

besides africa bc i wasnt going to release like 60 countries and lag my game

wait no i have malaya puppeyed east indies is independent

[crisp wyvern]

peru declared on me for pastaza during my gran colombia run

the result?

1.43M peruvian casualties

375k colombian casualties

and the war lasted from 1941 to 1945

but hey, i atleast formed gran colombia

[heavy vigil]

Couldve naval invaded around possibly

Thats both a really late war and poor performance imo

You should have south america wrapped up by 40/41 usually

[willow plume]

are surface fleets even worth it considering that hypersonic missiles exist?

subs seem to be a better idea since they'

re so stealthy

[alpine cipher]

Question, is playing with Yugoslavia difficult?

[misty fossil]

Undoubtedly

subs are cool but good luck engaging an air base 100km deep in land

you need planes for that

australian naval doctrine is to work in tandem with the usn

[willow plume]

ahh good point

[misty fossil]

australia provides sea denial to prevent china from doing funny stuff across the island chains and sea air gap

while us CSGs and LHD TFs provide direct land assault

[willow plume]

so large carriers are still relevant

[misty fossil]

vital

[marsh ravine]

Ifc

Ofc

[willow plume]

well theres a reason screening ships exist

[marsh ravine]

They are the best ship

By FAR

[willow plume]

carriers dont operate alone

[marsh ravine]

Carriers r op

[misty fossil]

aircraft carriers are so powerful because of how dexterous planes are

they can do everything from asw, deploying ashms and attack land targets

[marsh ravine]

Each carrier wing of navs iirc does same as any normal nav wing but for 1/10th the cost

Or something cursed

[marsh ravine]

Carriers CAN asw lmao

Theres and actual build for it

💀

In mp

Australia converts their cruisers to carriers and puts navs on them

[willow plume]

carriers are very expensive though

[marsh ravine]

And goes and deals with raiding with them

Lmao

[willow plume]

so only powerful countries can afford them

[misty fossil]

part of australia’s doctrine also involves a possible saturation attack against a chinese carrier TF using lrasms and nsms launched from f-35s and anzac frigates

[willow plume]

forward defence

[misty fossil]

the planes will have to use the bases in darwin and in the vicinity

[willow plume]

i think thats the name

[misty fossil]

no

that was the anti insurgency policy i believe

[marsh ravine]

Not rly it just takes a while

No matter who you are

Cos they take over a yr to build

[misty fossil]

we’ve shifted to the defence of australia doctrine now

[marsh ravine]

You only need 5 docks to make a carrier

[willow plume]

oh lmao

[misty fossil]

really powerful who have enough domestic manpower and economic strength to afford handling the relevant economics and technicalities

[willow plume]

i thought we were talking about real life

[misty fossil]

australia simply does not have enough people for that

[marsh ravine]

Oh💀

I assumed it was hoi4

Irl I have 0 clue

I'm on abt hoi4 lmao

[willow plume]

just sub spam irl

[misty fossil]

and a large portion of australia economy comes from exports which will be threatened by, you guessed it, chinese subs

and tu-16s with ashms

[willow plume]

isnt china one of australias largest export partners?

[misty fossil]

Yeah

someone needs coal to fire their furnaces

and all those products will have to go somewhere

[willow plume]

bruh

this reminds of that clip from utopia

[misty fossil]

this isnt russia where their economy had already been relatively isolated prior to the war

china will not have that luxury

look at what covid did to them

but then again im no academic so dont take me seriously

[willow plume]

well considering how much stuff china exports

a war and sanctions will seriously affect them

they can prolly buy raw materials from russia

[misty fossil]

Yes

Dont think russia makes enough coal tho

Some can come from india since they might not be involved in the war

[willow plume]

india likes to stay neutral

but they only problem is that their convoys will be vulnerable to being attacked

[misty fossil]

Yup

Its simply amazing how china could build a fleet so big in such a short period of time

australia woke up to the threat a bit too late but at least they did

[plush drift]

i bet i can win

[willow plume]

they have like 200 times the ship building capacity the us has

its actually insane

sk and japan still have a decent amount though

[willow plume]

is this millennium dawn

[gusty oracle]

is this like super detailed ukraine mod

[plush drift]

bro 😭

its eastern showdown

[plush drift]

Aye

but its very hard

[willow plume]

im still learning about hoi4

man this game is complicated

[gusty oracle]

how many hours

[gusty oracle]

you'll get the hang of it

[plush drift]

100

check my steam

[willow plume]

quite a few but im still bad lol

[gusty oracle]

how much is quite a few

[willow plume]

over 100

[gusty oracle]

like 200? 300?

I've got 500

[willow plume]

300 to be exact

[gusty oracle]

thats a decent amount

[willow plume]

yeah im starting to learn more about the game

[gusty oracle]

do you have all the dlc?

[willow plume]

no i dont

but i played with a friend who had some dlc

there was a spy agency

[sudden grotto]

God i hated that mod lol, It made 2022 scenario have so many different divs that you needed 2 hours Just to organize your army

[sudden grotto]

Syrsky spotted.

[gusty oracle]

No step back and la resistance are good

almost necessary

[limpid mantle]

are the tiles in this mod smaller or are the frontlines smaller

the map feels so huge

[sudden grotto]

Wya smaller

The map Is actually huge and super detailed

Kinda like magna europa

[misty fossil]

a lot of it has to do with the government being authoritarian

so theres no political obstacles

at least with the way how xi just cleared any oppositions

[misty fossil]

i have 800

and i just managed to learn how navy actually works

apparently carriers take the cake

[undone vale]

i love this community

[misty fossil]

🤑

[willow plume]

yeah i def need to get some dlc

[willow plume]

is the number fake?

[misty fossil]

no

[willow plume]

because it means that in a hypothetical sino-american war china will be able to replace their losses while the usa wont be able to

[misty fossil]

well

it might be

but its dangerous to assume so

but i wanted to emphasise the fact that xi didnt worry about such things as opposition

china out there building 400 ships while scott morrison here still refusing to give australians good internet

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-manifest-succulent-chinese-meal-gif-6247352595627410905

[willow plume]

yeah thats a good point

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGHEHROTaZs&pp=ygUVaHlwb2h5c3RlcmljYWxoaXN0b3J5

[willow plume]

sk and japan still have a decent amount of shipbuilding capacity

[willow plume]

ayyy this guy is good

[misty fossil]

you know him?

sick

[misty fossil]

they absolutely do

but they need to get that steel from somewhere

[willow plume]

australia has a lot of natural resources

[misty fossil]

you dont have access to a lot of that

because of indigenous land and stuff

which is fair enough i dont wanna upset aboriginal people anyway

[dusky burrow]

Goodbye Japan

[misty fossil]

i recorded the video but its over 100mb so i cant send it :(

[dusky burrow]

RIP

[willow plume]

i thought commonwealth title took precedence over native title?

[misty fossil]

nah its changed

which is a good thing

now aboriginal people have custodianship (ownership) over quite a lot of land

[dusky burrow]

Imagine waking up after World War I only to see the Ottomans as the world's second largest economy

[misty fossil]

unless woodside or rio tinto discovers some deposits underneath it and goes full ham on the legal battles

[willow plume]

do u have any sources?

[misty fossil]

no

i think its changed

as i said dont take anything i say seriously

hm i think you can look it up yourself tho

[clear dagger]

reminds me of how in Look Whos Back hitler thought the Ottoman empire made a comeback because of the turkish newspaper lol

[misty fossil]

year?

[dusky burrow]

This year is May 1920, so exactly 10 years after game start

GWR mod

[misty fossil]

i see

crazy work to get there

does anyone know why my screen capture has this weird aspect ratio

the thing just gets offset to a corner

[willow plume]

got it

[scenic basin]

Go on setting and change the aspect ratio or resolution

[misty fossil]

im looking at it rn

[scenic basin]

What res do you play on?

[misty fossil]

@scenic basin ^

[scenic basin]

Show me hoi4 settings

@misty fossil

[misty fossil]

in the launcher?

[scenic basin]

In the game.

[tiny plank]

Reminds me of my modded campaign. Where you can use population as manpower. China and india started a war in 1937 and around 620 million casualties

[scenic basin]

What is the command for more of the design star things

[misty fossil]

xp

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-stare-the-amazing-digital-circus-huh-what-gif-14848454493863729355

[scenic basin]

ty

I might do silver legion us when I'm home from work

[misty fossil]

why is this settings tab giving me flashbacks

[misty fossil]

i have an idea

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-invisible-invisible-metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-mgs-v-gif-2291332870157921142

[winter urchin]

even countries like estonia can pump out a carrier if needed

Fascist estonia is pretty broken for a minor when in axis

[sterile kiln]

only thing left is to give it a box

[winter urchin]

Kind of difficult to do in MP games though as you ideally want soviets to sell you murmansk olonets and onega

[willow plume]

yeah but its really inefficient

its better to make destroyers and heavy cruisers instead

supported by naval bombers

[winter urchin]

i disagree

on low dockyard nations carriers are a much more efficient use of resources as your majors in faction can produce the screening ships

because mils can be swapped between naval aircraft and army equipment

[weary moat]

well somone's going to moscow all by their lonesome 😅

[winter urchin]

if you stayed farther south youd have access to supply

There's a railway spanning the entire thing

[sterile kiln]

did you bring horse archers?

[weary moat]

probably right but posted this since that arm is really that long

[weary moat]

nah but signal companies in those divs

i did not have a field marshal plan going to moscow too lmao

[winter urchin]

Are those all motorized atleast?

It's 1953 ingame so you should have an insane supply

[weary moat]

some of them yeah some are plain infantry and some are armored

[weary moat]

hell yeah insane but as mentioned i did not use the railway father down south

im going to see where this goes

[winter urchin]

I meant of trucks to make motorized divs

That late ingame everything should be motorized/mechanized

[weary moat]

yeah they are motorized

the push has stopped and ill probably build some infra to back it up

[heavy vigil]

Gm chat

[willow plume]

ahhh that makes sense

i was thinking that aircraft carriers were goign to be operating with like no screening ships

[heavy vigil]

No?

Carriers are great for spamming supremacy

But if you have nothing just make light cruisers

[heavy vigil]

Yeah thats dumb

You dont wanna rely on the time for another fleet to join a battle

[winter urchin]

i didnt say that majors aren't supposed to make carriers

[heavy vigil]

You can only effectively use 5 per battle

Its not wise to do as a minor nation unless you build for supremacy number only

Then its fine

[winter urchin]

most minor nations cannot make more than 5 before 43-44 lol

default focus tree ones i guess could

[misty fossil]

american horde is real

[winter urchin]

or if you just didn't make convoys either but that wouldn't be ideal

[heavy vigil]

PER BATTLE

[willow plume]

ehhh

[heavy vigil]

If a major has one

Theyre useless

[winter urchin]

Wtf was that host ping

[heavy vigil]

You rely on ai to initiate battles which also sucks

[willow plume]

carriers are used to project force

but minors dont have the strength for that

[weary moat]

freeeedddddddooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmm

[heavy vigil]

Like if you dont have a navy just dont make them if your intention is battles

[weary moat]

• bravehart theme

[winter urchin]

its just for supremacy

[heavy vigil]

Yeah thats ok

But then you make it as cheap as, possible

Never leave port

[misty fossil]

the freedom in question (your democratically elected government is overthrown by the cia and you have to suffer with junta rule for 80 years afterwards)

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-get-um-gif-14046057357220425340

[sudden grotto]

@hollow marsh ban this guy

[misty fossil]

what the heck

[weary moat]

langley is on here?

[weary moat]

let me guess the SAC plays this game?

[sudden grotto]

Sac?

[sudden grotto]

USS langley mentioned? Noice

[weary moat]

lmaoooooo

[weary moat]

yes yes the famous langley

[sudden grotto]

Bruv i fr dunno whats that

[patent thistle]

perfection (russia and the UK arent my puppet)

[weary moat]

allahu akbar?

[weary moat]

better look it up to find out theres a reaper somewhere above me for sure

[patent thistle]

thats about what will happen in about a few months if this was real

[sudden grotto]

B-2 tactical nuke

[weary moat]

welp better get my arabic up to not be atrocious

[weary moat]

oh shit some guys just showed up at my door

[willow plume]

bro has summarised the cold war in latam

[weary moat]

the poles got angry about that drone moscow sent

[willow plume]

cursed borders

[limpid mantle]

bro

did you follow railways like me?

[weary moat]

lmao I didnt

[limpid mantle]

thats so bad brooo

[weary moat]

did you field marshal plan?

[weary moat]

I didnt know tbh but im just trolling my single playthrough at this point

[limpid mantle]

no time

just micro

your just following a railway anyways

i captured the Urals

by following railways

[weary moat]

me I didnt even micro I just found it that way lol but im gonna micro it later

[drifting grove]

how does hoi4 get worse every update? and thats not to imply that it was ever good

it started out garbage, and it remains garbage

[patent thistle]

f it i am bored, tell me what to play
(if you say fr*nce i will publicly execute you)

[weary moat]

play as greece

or rebuild rome

[patent thistle]

i done that like 5 times already 😭

[weary moat]

damnnnn i dunno too lol

[patent thistle]

done twice, once as italy, once as the f ing pope releasable nation-

[quartz jungle]

No 🤫

The CIA was never involved

[patent thistle]

only go get overthrown the second the leader tries anything funny for a milisecond

[eternal palm]

Do NSB achievement on Elite

[patent thistle]

i am once again saying no i am not doing ironman, you do realise i have a litteral laptop meaning the game can crash anytime?

and elite aint hard its just pain

[eternal palm]

That to me sounds like a skill issue

[eternal palm]

Ok but do you have a figurative laptop 🤔

if u have a literal laptop that implies the existence of a figurative one

[patent thistle]

i have a mid ranged work laptop which can be used for gaming to some degree

[eternal palm]

See thats what I wanted to know

But what does that have to do with your ability to play ironman?

[patent thistle]

because the game just loves to crash at the most inconvienient times

and save files then tend to corrupt

[eternal palm]

Crashing in itself doesnt cause saves to corrupt

Maybe you save to cloud and your steam cloud is full?

Or your storage is full?

[patent thistle]

no storage isnt full

[eternal palm]

Wdym 💀

[void raft]

is there such thing as someone who plays hoi4 AND black souls?

[eternal palm]

What is black souls?

I only know dark souls

[patent thistle]

like i said i rather do f ing Wadai in TGWR instant of elite

wanna know what so painful about it? you start in a small state in chad, at war with france, with like 5 divisions,

[sudden thistle]

Yeah it’s fun

[patent thistle]

thats why

atleast great war redux allows you to now puppet the state below with a decision

[tiny iris]

I had a dream I played Kaisereich.

No idea why that was a dream.

I should really take a break from HOI4 if I dream about it.

[eternal palm]

Yes u should 💀

[patent thistle]

it also allowed a puppet state over Darfur, noice

[sudden thistle]

Nah

More

[prisma zealot]

what are some small random tips that got yall more efficient at wars, especially when you got britain on you ?

[fallow grove]

Is German fascist path a meme country?

[eternal palm]

What

[prisma zealot]

definitly some april fools troll

[sudden thistle]

Uhh

Win?

Good templates?

[fallow grove]

It’s like free game no challenge at all lol

[prisma zealot]

also why the hell won't my paratroopers go where the arrow is

[fallow grove]

Everyone accepts annexations

[prisma zealot]

even if i have air superiority

[prisma zealot]

yeah it gets you lazy at some point ngl

[tiny iris]

Kaiser Wilhelm will always be the real leader of Germany

[sudden thistle]

It’s Germany in ww2 which has the best focus tree in the game

[fallow grove]

Who is that

[prisma zealot]

it's hitler's cousin

[tiny iris]

Are you fr?

[prisma zealot]

his cousin wants the power so he kindly asks hitler to overthrow himself

[eternal palm]

0/10 ragebait try again

[fallow grove]

I’m not a German sorry

[eternal palm]

has nothing to do with itttt

[prisma zealot]

american detecteed

[fallow grove]

I’m from Netherlands

[eternal palm]

💀

[fallow grove]

😭

[prisma zealot]

the kaiser wilhelm is hitler's bike actually

[broken sky]

ts so annoying

[prisma zealot]

yknow

he loves to ride him

🔥

[fallow grove]

I know what kaiser means dumbahh

[tiny iris]

You don't need to be a nationality to know that country's history. You're not Roman but you know what the Roman empire was?

[eternal palm]

What does it mean?

explain to me I'm not germany either

[prisma zealot]

kid you don't need to be violent

[sudden thistle]

Ur not Germany?

[prisma zealot]

thank god you're not the german reich

[fallow grove]

It’s basically an emperor

[eternal palm]

Exactly

[prisma zealot]

cringe

[sudden thistle]

Ohhh so ur Albania then

[eternal palm]

I'm bavaria

[sudden thistle]

Ohhh

[prisma zealot]

ew

[eternal palm]

Bavaria is not germany I want yall to remember that

[prisma zealot]

don't be britain pls

[prisma zealot]

bavaria is serbia

🔥

[eternal palm]

Dawg look at my name, did u think I was fr 💀

[eternal palm]

Berlin is Palestine 🔥

[prisma zealot]

kosovo is isr*el

🔥

[eternal palm]

🔥

[fallow grove]

De because u German?

[eternal palm]

No of course not 🤯

[prisma zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-faliure-emoji-discord-flushed-gif-20547117

[fallow grove]

Real

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068630365717143574/1316362836632666143/togif-1-2.gif

[prisma zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863192183636885534/1340649533759164467/MOSSAD.gif

[rose prawn]

Dutch pre ww2 history: Hendrik Coljin forms his 5th government with no issues again

[prisma zealot]

is it homophobic to hate mossad

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-ragebait-me-heart-twitter-reaction-gif-cat-gif-16396486465647525728

[broken sky]

the only thing prventing me from getting the cores bruh

[rose prawn]

Oh nope he couldnt
Because of Oss affair scandal

[fallow grove]

I don’t even know that much history bro😭

[eternal palm]

OUch

[rose prawn]

I MUST
Because making a dutch rework

Netherlands in hoi4 is just awfull

Both in map wise and focus wise

[fallow grove]

I never played Netherlands 💔

[prisma zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004436768596181032/1313993310960091147/Iranian_take.gif

[rose prawn]

Good

You shouldn't

Netherlands only has 3 regions in the game @fallow grove

Holland brabat and friesland

They even placed ultrect wrong 🌹

[fallow grove]

My city doesn’t even appears in the hoi map

It’s bloemendaal

[patent thistle]

huh, i remembered this being way harder,

[rose prawn]

They also made ijsselmeer as lake 💀

[scenic basin]

I lost a lot of pp for some reason restarting the kaiserreich

[prisma zealot]

hoi4 doesnt like iranian femboys

💔

[scenic basin]

Do you lose PP for making Germany a military dictatorship?

[rose prawn]

Unless you get admiral reader

[fallow grove]

If u make a rework of Netherlands remove Maastricht

It’s an old ahh city

[rose prawn]

I am already working on it %80 of it ended

[prisma zealot]

isnt maastricht in belgium

[fallow grove]

I wish it was

[rose prawn]

Limburg was governed by belguim

During united kingdom of netherlands

Then they broke free

Netherlands took it from them

[sudden thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1414466708533547019/attachment.gif

[tiny iris]

I took like 2 years for me to win the German civil war. i tried a new strategy and yeah...

[eternal palm]

Im so confused that there are 2 places called Limburg very close to ach other. Limburg in the Netherlands and Limburg and der Lahn in Hessen, germany

[rose prawn]

Limburg was actually in the German confederation

[eternal palm]

Which one 💀

[rose prawn]

Both

[patent thistle]

huh, i remembered this being harder.

TGWR devs, WHY DO YOU MAKE SHIT EASIER-

[eternal palm]

U could play this on elite

And maybe you've just gotten better

[tiny iris]

Just started one of my first kaisereich games since my dream made me play it. What can I expect?

[patent thistle]

or the french ai is just being the french ai and doesnt bring troops

[patent thistle]

then again i will have to hold out for like 700 days still-

[prisma zealot]

make the kaiser great again

invade poland and commit war crimes

then get alsace moselle

followed by the united states of america and russia

[patent thistle]

that sounds more like the reich-

[prisma zealot]

get out of the room

[rose prawn]

AI doesnt focus on africa much

[sudden thistle]

Easy win

[scenic basin]

What is the benifits of kaiserreich and empire for germany

All I know that empire is wilhelm and kaiserreich is 4th supreme

[patent thistle]

south is under control now i just hold out in the north

[zenith charm]

based wadai fighters

[eternal palm]

This campaign is dedicated to the brave fighters of Wadai

[patent thistle]

in my first playthrough i was able to take out french africa (-algeria) sadly i cant here due to the TGWR devs adding those small land pieces in the sahara so france can move troops through them

in short: TGWR devs hate fun

[eternal palm]

Sounds like a skill issue

[dry abyss]

can confirm

[patent thistle]

tf am i supposed to do with 6 shitty cav devisions and a militia

[heavy vigil]

You can win

[heavy vigil]

Make them better?

[patent thistle]

ik just hold out

[eternal palm]

WEll you see, make more

So much for "this used to be harder"

[patent thistle]

i do not have the guns buddy-

[eternal palm]

💀

[eternal palm]

Welp make more

[heavy vigil]

Gun market

Also no garrisons gaming fr

[patent thistle]

your funny

[dry abyss]

id improve relations with middle east nations and beg for lend lease

[heavy vigil]

Thats 1 usable civ to buy guns

So thats fine

[dry abyss]

If that still works/works on gwr

[patent thistle]

eitherway i wouldnt even get all that much

[patent thistle]

nope doesnt work cause world tension*

[dry abyss]

oh

[rose prawn]

What are the losses like

[heavy vigil]

Market always works smh

[patent thistle]

eh could be better i just had to take quite the pounding at the start which caused this ratio

[dry abyss]

i find it hard to believe that one civ can supply an entire army

[patent thistle]

not my best shows i have to admit

[heavy vigil]

Its not a large army

[rose prawn]

You could have make port cheese

[patent thistle]

meh i rather play somewhat less cheesy

[dry abyss]

still you’d get like 1k guns after a very long time i think

[patent thistle]

also which port am i supposed to use?? gabon?

the french aint naval invading that

[heavy vigil]

Guns > no guns

[dry abyss]

ur right about that ig

[heavy vigil]

Hoi4 is very bad to colonies though

[dry abyss]

FRRRRR

[heavy vigil]

While irl they obviously had economic and raw resource value which you should be able to capture

Hoi4 and mods just move it to like the mainland

Of colonizers

[dry abyss]

oh so thats why for example france has so much aluminum

?

[proud dagger]

[vocal pumice]

a pacific DLC is basically confirmed which is great cause the region just hasn't changed much

[dry abyss]

has a usa rework been confirmed or nah?

[eternal palm]

"Pacific" More like East Asia Lol

Its an east asian DLC, if it was pacific it wouldve included the US

[vocal pumice]

has it been confirmed the US won't be modified

[eternal palm]

Not yet, but I doubt they are going to do that

For that to happen, we need MTG to be made part of the game

Like DoD, TfV and WtK were

And since that hasnt happened, I doubt we'll get a US rework

But also, since mtg added the naval designer, they might still do it?

But then to sell that as a DLC would be really stupid

Like, you pay money for alt history focus trees, and then you pay more money to get a rework. How stupid is that?

[misty fossil]

still waiting for an answer......

[eternal palm]

Check your recording software

and set it to capture window

[misty fossil]

im using uh

[eternal palm]

Yeah?

[misty fossil]

the built in tool for microsoft

[eternal palm]

Just use OBs 💀

Its free and good

[misty fossil]

i dont do recordings that much

if at all

[eternal palm]

WEll if u wanna do them anyway, use OBS

U dont want your recordings to look like shit

[misty fossil]

alr

[vocal pumice]

Australia may get a change and that aint really Asian

MTG was the most recent change to it im pretty sure

[eternal palm]

Yea might

So until we get that, I'll call it an east asian DLC

[eternal palm]

Australia wasnt changed with mtg

it was changed with tfv

[vapid bough]

world unity achieved

[dry abyss]

the entire world just said "screw japan" and did its thing

[vocal pumice]

whatt u mean by tfv

just checking

[eternal palm]

Together for Victory

the dlc thats now part of the game that added dominion focus trees

Its either the first, or one of the first dlcs for hoi4

Also added puppet mechanics

[vocal pumice]

it makes sense that australia would get a rework then seeing how it was so long ago that it was last updated, and with the contribution to halting the Japanese forces at Papua

[eternal palm]

Ye Australia and new zealand could definitely happen

Since their dlcs are part of the game

US is a different story though

[tiny iris]

Is the AI stupid? It just keeps atacking me fortified postions.

[eternal palm]

You dont say 🤯

[dry abyss]

Yes. Yes it is.

[vocal pumice]

thats just hoi4 AI, its normal

[eternal palm]

Hoi4 player discovers AI being restarted

Insane

[eternal palm]

Hold shift when drawing frontlines and draw arrows

[vocal pumice]

when the AI learns what encirclements are and their effectiveness we are so losing as minor powers

[tiny iris]

But it feels like, if Paradox made the AI competent, the players would whine about it being too hard.

[eternal palm]

Me when sheeps mod exists:

Also encirclements are mostly for dopamine

[vocal pumice]

have u not seen the AI snake before

[eternal palm]

its faster to just battleplan than to micro everything

[eternal palm]

Bro players already do that 💀

"whaa why cant I push france waaa"

[dry abyss]

battleplan = 10 mil casulties

[eternal palm]

"soviets are too strong wah"

[eternal palm]

Yes and?

[vocal pumice]

they leave ports wide open if they dont have enough troops to hold the entire front line

its so funny to see their entire army battle plan in a region with no supplies when 10 has alot of supplies

[dry abyss]

just a major skill issue at that point

[eternal palm]

It absolutely is, but people still whine about it

[dry abyss]

sadly

[eternal palm]

I feel like if pdx made the AI better, that would just make the game better

[spare laurel]

[eternal palm]

since then AI allies would at least be useful

but sadly pdx didnt really design the game well

[dry abyss]

if only instead of getting debuffs for difficulties the ai just got smarter

[eternal palm]

Why is the intended tank doctrine better for inf and why is the WW1 doctrine the best doctrine for tanks

Like bruh

[vocal pumice]

France is the weakest major tbh, low mp bad starting things

[eternal palm]

and why is the doctrine where hurling men at the enemy is the only strategy the best doctrine in the game

[eternal palm]

Its also the funniest major

[dry abyss]

do the napoleon path and conquer benelux, put them on harsh quotas and u get free 30 civs

[patent thistle]

"what if the battle of leipzig happend on sea" ah moment

[tiny iris]

I hate playing as Austria, I'm an SBR rn and my manpower is still 0.

[eternal palm]

I just noticed you're missing an R in your name

pls fix it

[patent thistle]

ITALY FOR ONCE DOESNT LOSE IN LIBYA??

LETS GO

[tiny iris]

is it kaiserreich?

[eternal palm]

Did u core our puppets

Yes

[dry abyss]

Sbr? As in steel ball run? Is this a jojo reference?

[eternal palm]

its Kaiser and Reich

Not Kaiser and Eich

[eternal palm]

🤯

Holy shit

[tiny iris]

Ok, yeah. I thought about that but I decided to use one R anyways. I'll change it.

[dry abyss]

mind blowing indeed

[eternal palm]

When u realise that walking is a jojo reference

[dry abyss]

wait holy shit it is

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-dio-jotaro-approach-approaching-gif-25253208

[vocal pumice]

its just got a low mp pool to draw from, as france your basically always out of MP from fulltime employment (-25%)

[eternal palm]

Just get rid of it?

[dry abyss]

Vanilla france is very weak but rt56 is just busted

ngl

[eternal palm]

r56 is stupid in general

terrible mod

Just play vanilla

[lament scaffold]

honestly in rt56 you get like no political power for france

[vocal pumice]

either you go non-core and have no mp early game or you get rid of fulltime employment and delete any chances of late game mp

[eternal palm]

Thats not much different from vanilla lol

[eternal palm]

Wdym?

[dry abyss]

vienot agreements, you get 1000pp in 270 days or soemthing

and 100% stab

[eternal palm]

u just get rid of fulltime emplyoment and done

[vapid bough]

fall off of the century

[vocal pumice]

its got a pop of italy but to harness that core pop u lose out on the 5% non core and the ability to core colonies (im pretty sure France can core colonies from that focus if they stay with empire)

[eternal palm]

That non core manpower doesnt matter at all

U dont even have that much

And -25% pop factor is terrible

That 5% non core does not make up for that

Just go up in conscription of need be

The production debuffs dont matter

[eternal palm]

And that coring is pure RNG and also doesnt make up for the -25% factor

and then its something like central africa

[dry abyss]

true

[vocal pumice]

can it be done on any colony or no

[eternal palm]

Oh and because you core stuff means that non core manpower is now worth less anyway

[vocal pumice]

or only starting colony

[eternal palm]

Only starting states

hoi4 has no defines for what a colony is

Only core states and non core states

[vocal pumice]

colony states?

[eternal palm]

Non core states 🤷‍♂️

They are just called that, they are weird

[icy crescent]

Alaska and East Timor start as Colony States or at least Coreless.

[eternal palm]

Cuz they're not cored, but you cant get compliance or resistance

So they are just useless

[dry abyss]

They’re called that because nothing has cores on it

[eternal palm]

Yea they are a weird legacy of pre lr resistance systems

[icy crescent]

Yes.

[heavy vigil]

They made it less bad but yeah

[icy crescent]

Tho Alaska can be cored by the USA.
And East Timor by East Indies or Malaya, when they create their formable.

[vocal pumice]

also does anyone know where manpower goes randomly, i think it maybe from AI division taking the manpower to the void when they destroyed but idk

[eternal palm]

Casualties and resistance mostly

[vocal pumice]

by that i mean when you core land during war

and it gives basically no MP

[eternal palm]

Then the state didnt add enough to the sum total

Or it goes straight to reinforcements

Or resistance

or both

[vocal pumice]

no resistance on cores

[icy crescent]

Powerful dark blue.
Let's gooo.

[spare laurel]

yea

[vocal pumice]

it maybe weekly mp breaking something with the game tbh

[eternal palm]

No I mean other states

To other states you are occupying

[eternal palm]

Shouldnt change anything

the increase just maybe isnt that large

🤷‍♂️

Can be any number of reasons

[vocal pumice]

if an AI drains a state of MP and those divisions are destroyed does the MP from the state reset or stay destroyed i should ask

[icy crescent]

It drains.

[eternal palm]

Ye thats not how manpower works. When u take casualties, the state population remains the same. Recruitment is tag based. So if a country recruited from that state, and then another country cores it they can recruit the same amount

If a division gets destroyed the manpower is just removed from the pool that the tag has recruited

[vocal pumice]

ok so there is no repercussions on your MP if you destroy enemy units then annex them?

[eternal palm]

For you, no

For the tag that got units destroyed, yes

[vocal pumice]

when you change conscription levels and have weekly mp what exactly happens also

[upper citrus]

hey guys, how i do a custom country? what i need to go?

[eternal palm]

the game calculates how much MP you recruit from the states, core and non core, that you currently control

[eternal palm]

Uhhh thats not how countries work in hoi4

There are a set number of countries

this isnt CK3 like with title creation

[upper citrus]

for sure?

[eternal palm]

uh yes.

[vocal pumice]

there are so many countries, if it has anything to do with history and it isn't unlockable through focus trees, its probs just gonna have a tag

[upper citrus]

i talking like a mod, u know?

[eternal palm]

Well then go head to #modding

Idk how to mod in hoi4

[upper citrus]

okay, thx

[eternal palm]

Btw is anyone else having trouble forming Imperial Federation with USA as Fascist UK via civil war?

Or do you actually need to secure the dominions to do that

Cuz for me canada always breaks free even after repuppeting

[dry abyss]

you mean like coring the US?

[drifting kiln]

just annex everyone in the civil war

[eternal palm]

Ye but I wanna core US aswell

[eternal palm]

Yes

[dry abyss]

you need to release canada and let them form north america

then you just needa reconquer them

then form imperial federation

[eternal palm]

WAit so I release canada as independent can I still give USA to them?

[dry abyss]

well no you release canada as a puppet

you should have a decision to feed them the uda

[eternal palm]

Yea and then they immediately break free

[dry abyss]

they break free

[eternal palm]

Ah

Woooooow

[dry abyss]

conquer

and annex

[eternal palm]

thats extremely restarted

PDX fix ur frigging game

[drifting kiln]

you cant i think

[dry abyss]

cause you can still form the imperial fedwration if its annexed

[dry abyss]

You can

[eternal palm]

You literally can 💀

[dry abyss]

i’ve done it many times

[eternal palm]

Otherwise I wouldnt be asking

[drifting kiln]

why would you want to even

[dry abyss]

fym

[eternal palm]

is that even a question?

[drifting kiln]

just because your stupid thats why

[eternal palm]

ITS THE US

[eternal palm]

WEll frig you then

[drifting kiln]

bro ur the strongest country in the world in 1938

if u cant beat anyone with that then just sklsu ig

[dry abyss]

for me it took a few dayd

enough time to feed them all the us cores

[eternal palm]

Ye I got it now, thanks

but I swear it used to be easier

[dry abyss]

?

[eternal palm]

maybe I'm misremembering and did it as nonaligned

[dry abyss]

maybe they patched it

[eternal palm]

like u didnt need to reinvade them

[dry abyss]

idk

[patent thistle]

thanks for the distraction morroco, ig.

[spare laurel]

[patent thistle]

are you a, france supporter?

[spare laurel]

nah

[patent thistle]

i was about to set your execution date.

[spare laurel]

[patent thistle]

does this explain it to you?

[patent thistle]

not a bad deal, at all.

[eternal palm]

I like france. Their food is good. ||their twinks are too||

[patent thistle]

i am not gonna execute you anymore because i am no longer at war with france

if i was it would mean execution

[eternal palm]

🥱

What are you talking about bro

It aint that deep

[trim pike]

[eternal palm]

Yea u heard me

@tardy lily Knows what I'm about 👀

[trim pike]

@tardy lily explain

[eternal palm]

No dont 💀

[tardy lily]

Why the f am I pinged here

[heavy vigil]

This is proof that every hoi player is gay

[trim pike]

Do it

[sudden thistle]

Do they have a focus tree

[eternal palm]

Moin

[heavy vigil]

No

[tardy lily]

Oi

[trim pike]

Why does creep like twinks

[heavy vigil]

French twinks*

[tardy lily]

:3

[eternal palm]

🤫

[trim pike]

[tardy lily]

[fallow grove]

If I have a puppet how can i use their manpower for my army?

[heavy vigil]

:3

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[patent thistle]

no they dont they have the standard TGWR one

[sudden thistle]

I think tower man is creep’s twink

[trim pike]

[eternal palm]

Ayo?

[trim pike]

Its true isnt it

[patent thistle]

so. i guess its time to side with france? cause i got cores on cameroon for some reason

[eternal palm]

Oh god what have I done

Pretend u guys didnt read anything today

[heavy vigil]

Glad to see you have game

Happy for you two

[eternal palm]

OMFG

[patent thistle]

.

[trim pike]

[sudden thistle]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/zov-cute-kitten-cat-kitty-gif-14397510677465803539

[sudden thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1401563044231778305/1414466708533547019/attachment.gif

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-flopje-rabbit-flat-flattened-gif-3328345702515468435

[spare laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[trim pike]

Not the soviet front

[tardy lily]

Wait aren't you with someone else ?

[drifting kiln]

the famous axis soviet front of northern india

[eternal palm]

No no I'm not taken 💀

[heavy vigil]

Oohh

[eternal palm]

See, I can manage conversations with men

Also that gif doesnt show barb

[heavy vigil]

(Hes offering it to you rn)

[eternal palm]

I stopped chasing 2d women and starting chasing 3d men

[trim pike]

What

[eternal palm]

I take that back 💀

[trim pike]

U cant

[eternal palm]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-flopje-rabbit-flat-flattened-gif-3328345702515468435

[trim pike]

U typed the whole thing and pressed send

[patent thistle]

just realised i got some french ship als reperation

so i renamed it

[tiny iris]

We won the war basically. But none of us can get to Britain.

[eternal palm]

....u didnt annex your puppets.

Oh god.

[patent thistle]

just to piss off the french i decided to buy some german torpedo boats to support the french ship i gained for war reperations

[limpid mantle]

this scares me more than a linux terminal

[tiny iris]

Nvm, we got it.

[serene token]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TnpGo94FDXA?si=ft1yqkLtBB5C4nSl

[misty fossil]

soviet front
india

MODERATORS!!!

[simple plank]

what is it did something happen?

[eternal palm]

oh idk :clueless:

[misty fossil]

does he know

[simple plank]

what?

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326006947811692669/1386902726687854622/convert.gif

he doesnt know

[simple plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168921986169319604/1292461756882358333/togif.gif

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352531992826089538/1412483533989089350/IMG_4552.gif

[simple plank]

who what even happend?

[misty fossil]

Wrong gif

[misty fossil]

Your mom happened

[eternal palm]

Your dad came back with cigarettes

[simple plank]

im going to call the mods

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/marrochi-film-gif-4854246507857272981

i dont think thats appropriate

i would delete that

[simple plank]

its just a cat girl drinking milk

whats wrong with it

???

[tiny iris]

Trust me, delete it.

[simple plank]

who is this random?!

[eternal palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103374971943788715/1381983678330048562/RESTARDED.gif

[simple plank]

there's nothing wrong with it

[eternal palm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/701830872319525025/1179727577196269600/caption-23-1.gif

[simple plank]

https://tenor.com/view/femboy-uwu-gif-710257022850761495

[steady thorn]

thats deffo gonna get u in trouble gng

[misty fossil]

that bodysuit is very inappropriate

i

[uncut pollen]

What

[misty fossil]

dawg delete it

[uncut pollen]

The

Hell

[misty fossil]

oh my god

[steady thorn]

yea delete is gng

[uncut pollen]

WHAT AM I LOOKING AT

[eternal palm]

Yo if yall want it gone just ping the mods lmaoooooo

[misty fossil]

there are KIDS in here

[eternal palm]

Eh seen worse.

[uncut pollen]

Black sunday

[eternal palm]

But yea thats pretty terrible

the implications are worse

[misty fossil]

[eternal palm]

Worse 💀

[misty fossil]

If you wanna snitch go ahead

[steady thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356765177298817105/1416053141299794143/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[uncut pollen]

WORSE THAN THAT?

[eternal palm]

ay yall want it gone not me

[misty fossil]

hes talking about skibidi toilet

[eternal palm]

Yes, worse.

[uncut pollen]

<@&846894118219022336>

[misty fossil]

why do you not want it gone

[eternal palm]

Cuz I dont really give a shit

[misty fossil]

what are the implications of this statement

[eternal palm]

Cba 🥱

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-get-um-gif-14046057357220425340

[uncut pollen]

That disgusts me Out of the bottom of my heart

[uncut pollen]

Wtf

[misty fossil]

i generally dont snitch unless its serious

[eternal palm]

What are you on about bro, I just cba, thats the mods job

[uncut pollen]

I Seen alot of Things but nothing worse than black sunday

[spare laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268941256654848164/1271741252534272111/togif.gif

[misty fossil]

im on

um

uh

[uncut pollen]

Awwwwwwww

[steady thorn]

https://imgur.com/a/DxitL6a

[uncut pollen]

❤️

[eternal palm]

Thats like a worse time to snitch though 💀, well depending how good u are with the person ur snithing on

[misty fossil]

im on earth

[steady thorn]

what snitch gng its discord

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-tail-suck-tail-gif-21243409

[eternal palm]

real 💀

"dont tell the mods bro"
the mods in question that are watching:

[steady thorn]

I doubt any are watching

[misty fossil]

well im not saying dont tell the mods

[steady thorn]

they snooze

[steady thorn]

yea no way

[rich sand]

how do i deploy the railway guns? i cant see it in the template tab

[steady thorn]

u make a living with one

[steady thorn]

they will deploy automatically

[eternal palm]

This fits perfectly into r/ImFourteenAndThisIsDeep

[steady thorn]

look near ur capital

[misty fossil]

assign it to an army and never have to think about it again

[rich sand]

sorry i thought this was the help channel

[eternal palm]

Check in the support tab below armored trains

[misty fossil]

Nope perfect place to ask

[eternal palm]

You have to produce them

[misty fossil]

ask it here

[eternal palm]

and then they deploy automatically

[misty fossil]

how do you send rail guns across oceans tho

[eternal palm]

Via convoy

[misty fossil]

do they just go with the army?

[rich sand]

ohh

i see it now

thanks guys

[misty fossil]

Do they make special ships for that or do they just break it apart

[eternal palm]

no they literally go via convoy

and if you catch one it dies instantly

[misty fossil]

imagine having to ship the gustav across the atlantic

[eternal palm]

Thats literally how it works

[heavy vigil]

👀

[vapid bough]

i somehow lost the ability to justify on them (i guess their wt just decayed away) but they just made WW3 happen anyway

[heavy vigil]

I deleted it

[trail gate]

germany you

you missed the... target

[spare laurel]

basic

[uncut pollen]

Thank you!!!!!

[uncut pollen]

I Love this Video Game so much

[heavy vigil]

please do not post that flag in this discord server, but regardless of that, defense is not a stat that is able to fully stop your attacks

[trail gate]

oh

i didnt realize im sorry

[heavy vigil]

its okay :)

[serene token]

Hello

[patent thistle]

i think i should stop buying ships or my economy is gonna completly collapse into a meltdown-

[serene token]

You bought it

[uncut pollen]

No

[serene token]

Oh

[uncut pollen]

Its sadly they demo

[serene token]

Hmm

[patent thistle]

or am i wrong-

[serene token]

Buy 1000 more, see what happens

[patent thistle]

i cant even buy that many since i dont have civilian factories anymore-

also it acually takes the ship from the nation

[serene token]

Oh

[patent thistle]

i dont want to cause the entire sea front to collapse for the germans or british-

because some random african state bought out there entire fleet