hoi4-general

[flat barn]

This cursed asf lmao

[uneven basin]

normally game has a lot

today nobody hosting at all

[slim nexus]

How?

[flat barn]

I dont know

[slim nexus]

Bro fumbled so f*ing hard

[flat barn]

Just form a coalition government at this point its not that deep 😭

[dusky burrow]

Coalition government between the Falangists and the Communists 😭

[eternal palm]

Nah it is that deep

How does either side have IC and manpower to even do this lmao

[fallow cove]

Nationalist spain got hundreds of thousands of mp

But no equipment

[void canyon]

how are the communists still going

two states is nothing

do they have volunteers?

[heady bough]

is this alright to hinder germany? how can i make my template better?

okay i got it to 2000

[wicked plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393993499547795590/1416800460987174983/image.png?ex=68c829c0&is=68c6d840&hm=12148782c1f6ec8ea0f5c0cbb9a826491307795ebb4baf264e41cf61947ac5b8&

[serene token]

Template good, or do I need to change things?

[wicked plover]

combat width bad

[void canyon]

?

[serene token]

So I should downgrade my combat width?

[void canyon]

do i annex?

[wicked plover]

tanks I usualy go 30 width or 36 width

[void canyon]

bump up to 30/36 if affordable

[void canyon]

why is this broken?

[wicked plover]

36 width if u can afford if not keep it to 30 width or even 18 width if u have few industry

[heady bough]

what about mine?

[wicked plover]

I think 40 width is not meta in the current state of the game, I would go for something like this

[serene token]

Thought line artillery is bad

[wicked plover]

not really

[void canyon]

damage

the gain outweighs the pain

[wicked plover]

very low org, keep it above 30

[wicked plover]

if u go purely tanks yes, line artilery is bad, but if not u should alawys use it

[void canyon]

30 org, 30/36 width, logi company

(tanks are very supply thirsty)

[serene token]

I already have logi on.

[void canyon]

also make sure speed is above like 9/10

[heady bough]

no anti tank? i thought anti tank is good to counter germany

[dusky burrow]

The problem with line artillery isn't that it's counterproductive necessarily, but moreso that it is pointless

[void canyon]

this is basically what i run

[serene token]

Okay

[dusky burrow]

You can use a 100% infantry division with basically no change in effectiveness

[wicked plover]

yea it is, and use if the situation requires it to

[void canyon]

dont think i ever used anti tank

[dusky burrow]

And it saves you on ic

Don't need anti-tank against vanilla AI

[void canyon]

yeah

[dusky burrow]

But against some other AIs like Sheep's it can be useful

[eternal palm]

Yea line arty is bad. Stats aren't that great for reducing, terrain stats, org and hp. Also mot recon does absolutely nothing

[void canyon]

how do i disband non-disband-able troops during peacetime

[eternal palm]

U don't

Park them somewhere or let them get encircled

[void canyon]

go to war with a little country and get it encircled and let it die?

[summer stag]

hey people ,

[uncut pollen]

Hiii

[eternal palm]

No just let them get encircled when u get the chance

[void canyon]

alright

[summer stag]

i am right to restore Austria Hungarian empire i hope......

first time play for Austrian )

[serene token]

My war support is terrible.

As the USA, is there anything I can do to increase it?

[eternal palm]

Send attache, click propaganda when at war, do focuses that give war support

[summer stag]

almost always in my companies, Ephiopia lose Italy

[serene token]

I'll do the attache part, I can't go to war because I'm democratic, and the path that gives me war support is the path that makes me have a civil war.

[void canyon]

send lots of attaches

china and democratic spain

anywhere with wars

lol ive almost got 700k manpower in airforce thats so dumb

[cerulean orchid]

ive sunk like half of the british navy

[void canyon]

NOOOOO

[void canyon]

not half

[serene token]

France and the UK went communist

[void canyon]

more and more tragedies stack atop eachother

[serene token]

I just lost almost all of my support in the house due to the midterms.

[void canyon]

still kinda big

[cerulean orchid]

ya but theyve only sunk maybe like 10 destroyers of mine

[void canyon]

oh

please dont kill them they dont deserve it

[serene token]

Republic of Spain is making a comeback.

[zenith charm]

listening to the 1812 overture, the world is peaceful and i'm going to mars

[serene token]

Jokes on you, I don't have Discord on my Laptop.

[eternal palm]

Why?

[void canyon]

good, spare some of your sanity

[eternal palm]

Why do so many people not have it

I really don't get it

[void canyon]

who wants nonstop pinging in their ears

[serene token]

ME

[void canyon]

shhh, this is secretly tech

[eternal palm]

U know u can mute discord/mute pings right

[void canyon]

yes and i have

[eternal palm]

No reason to not make screenshots

[eternal palm]

No hp?

And why 40w

[void canyon]

it's tech just trust me

[eternal palm]

All I see is no hp and expensive division

Oh and bad support

[void canyon]

less hp than a 18w block of infantry yes

[eternal palm]

Lmao

[void canyon]

big block of firepower

[eternal palm]

U know that once the AI hits ls u die right

Cuz u don't have hp

Hp is probably the most important stat, like ever

And it's still 40w

[void canyon]

this is why i have 360 infantry

i'm in an experimental phase

[eternal palm]

That really doesn't take away from the fact that the tank template isn't that good

[void canyon]

trying out dumb stuff

it used to be good i'll give you what it was

[eternal palm]

Oh you mean 5 frigging years ago?

The future is now old man

[void canyon]

i meant i had a template that used to be good when i was doing my conquering

i have changed to dumb stuff now

[timber swallow]

my 10th game or so

[void canyon]

dont exactly remember but give or take it looked like this

[eternal palm]

See that's better

Why change it to something objectively worse 😭

[void canyon]

because im not even at war anymore

[eternal palm]

Wooooow

[void canyon]

just screwing around with the template maker now

[opal nymph]

The idea is you can stockpile resources you won't have access to during war so you dont instantly have your industry start dying

[flat barn]

Bruh

I spent the game making a navy as japan and i cant get supremacy because the usa wont engage me

What the F-ck is this game design

[dusky burrow]

Hospitals and rangers/armored recon btw

Also more mech is in order

[flat barn]

harhar

[south crow]

Whats a good light air template?

[slim nexus]

Anything that has range

[gritty karma]

since when Sweden (only sweden starting cores) are able to print 400 factories wtf xD did they overbuffed sweden in their dlc? i didnt play a single game during sweden dlc release(i back to game after like 2-3 years)

[slim nexus]

Can you do a navy game as a South American nation with 10 dockyards max?

Btw how do you play Falangist Spain?

I mean, I kinda get the idea

But I want to know more if there's more to know

[west ivy]

when the

[gritty karma]

you win fast north so carlist dont start another civil war

[slim nexus]

I got the civil war done many times now

It's inevitable that Carlists rise up

but it's easy to put them down

The civil war is the easiest part of playing Spain

[gritty karma]

wait i got more intel, sweden is cheating factories wtf xD

[gritty karma]

you can stop them if u consolide north

[slim nexus]

Dude I speedrun conquering all of the North of Spain

Carlists rise up anyway

[vernal rapids]

Looking good so far

[flat barn]

Wtf

1961

How good is ur pc

[eternal palm]

Are they faction leader for some reason?

This is mathematically impossible

Sweden doesn't have that many building slots

[flat barn]

What if they chose to build in the ocean

[eternal palm]

🤯

[flat barn]

Im feeling demoralized after my japan game

whats a fun country to play

[open quartz]

greater swedish reich gets 4000 building slots no cap

[gritty karma]

US was faction leader they are last major country to capitulate allies and i was shocked that they have 400 factories xD

[vernal rapids]

I5 13600kf overclocked and I’m bout to get a 5070 I have a overclocked 4060rn

[gritty karma]

yeah so i think Sweden is cheating

[eternal palm]

So Sweden is faction leader?

[flat barn]

how do i check my pcs stats

[eternal palm]

Of allies which are all capped

[vernal rapids]

Got my encirclement

[gritty karma]

indeed

[eternal palm]

Ye there's a little thing called factory donations

Every capped country gives 5 offmap civs and 5 mils to the faction leader,

Thats how they have that many

[gritty karma]

when did they added this wtf

[eternal palm]

With mtg

So years ago

Just nobody bothers to check where their factories actually come from

[gritty karma]

lol never realized maybe because US was always last Allies, and now freaking Chile is major too

but argentina caped them for me

[gritty karma]

well i have intel on sweden and it doesnt say offmap

[eternal palm]

Yea cuz you can't see that from intel

U could see it in construction queue though

If u could tag to sweden

[gritty karma]

yeah, so many things in this game could be upgraded

[eternal palm]

It's not really relevant though

[gritty karma]

its ironman i'm doing all italy achievements

i never played italy

[vernal rapids]

I got my pc in top 100 in 3d mark 😂

[fallow grove]

Italy is ass

[flat barn]

hi

[brisk veldt]

yall

what mods do you play

[fallow grove]

Hi

[fallow grove]

No mods

[gritty karma]

thats why i never played them, played now mussolini path, now will play pope and communist for achievement

[buoyant radish]

man this d-day is crazy

[fallow grove]

Italy starts with 14 civs😹

[brisk veldt]

damn

[buoyant radish]

Italy is made to lose

[flat barn]

say goodnight

[brisk veldt]

how is that a major

[buoyant radish]

look at the forts

the naval maginot line

[fallow grove]

Because of all majors Italy has the less civs but still it has more than every minor

[flat barn]

They said my mussolinic empire was weak

[buoyant radish]

damn

[drifting kiln]

is this endsieg or smth?

[brisk veldt]

mussolini is chopped

[buoyant radish]

yeah that could be a endsieg

[flat barn]

that was ages ago

[drifting kiln]

no like the mod

[flat barn]

i might do another italian game tbh

[drifting kiln]

or seelow heights

[brisk veldt]

also ur playing as uk why did italy ai do allat

[flat barn]

i switched to the uk

i cant remember why

at the end

oh wait

i remember now

uk was still alive somewhere

i couldnt find them

so i became them

selected their division to see where they were remaining

they were alive in the falklands

[buoyant radish]

look at those stats

[slim nexus]

to or to not bum rush turkey as greece 🤔

[flat barn]

very british leader

[flat barn]

😍

[elfin gazelle]

what mod should i play

[deep pike]

ngl guys

i think turkey is now somewhat easier to play

imo

[uncut pollen]

Road to 56

[elfin gazelle]

thatsp retty much just an extension of vanilla

[buoyant radish]

what have you played?

[elfin gazelle]

tno kaiserreich great war redux tfr empir

[buoyant radish]

but i would suggest the 1984 mod

[uncut pollen]

Than maybe the Rise of nations

[deep pike]

Sheep mod?

[elfin gazelle]

i mean to pick out of the mods i played

im a bit of a dunce since i didnt list them

mb

[terse ether]

that mod is super broken

[uncut pollen]

It sadly is

[terse ether]

and its dev team is pretty small

[elfin gazelle]

so uh

[uncut pollen]

Even the translate Mod is broken

[elfin gazelle]

what mod should i play out of those 5

anything

[buoyant radish]

1984

[elfin gazelle]

i said out of those 5

[uncut pollen]

Black friday is now 1 month old

I think

[vernal rapids]

welp beat russia but cant do the peace confress cause it crashes lmao

[buoyant radish]

you said anything

[elfin gazelle]

yeah i slipped

ok ill just choose myself

[uncut pollen]

The force of mother russian

You cant even Beat her

If you do

The Game Crashes

[heavy vigil]

Theres a stronger one

Chile gets it

[icy crescent]

People don't like the Portuguese.

[uncut pollen]

Hello Casey

[slim nexus]

what 😭

[flat barn]

think of it bro

[slim nexus]

idk man

killing people doesnt really correlate to ragebait

[flat barn]

Japan trolled america because they embargoed them and america responded by having to mobilise the strongest industry on earth and dropping 2 suns on the japanese homeland

[slim nexus]

…

[heavy vigil]

Hi flow :3

[uncut pollen]

How are you now doing?

[heavy vigil]

Bit tired

[uncut pollen]

SLEEP

[deep pike]

thoughts on this opinion:

Turkey is easier to play in vanilla ever since GOE came out

[sudden grotto]

Kinda? The saadabaad tree Is OP lol

[deep pike]

EXACTLY

also ive found it alot easier to get a positive legacy nowadays

[eternal palm]

Not exactly a hot take

[deep pike]

yeah

i also think the turkish focus tree now feels a bit more streamlined slightly?

like some of the 70 day focuses are now 35 day focuses

[eternal palm]

Nothing changed? Afaik?

But cool that they decide to do it NOW

[deep pike]

idk tbh but definetly feels better

[eternal palm]

Not when it came out 4 years ago

[deep pike]

yeah that is for sure

especially since you didnt have much of a chance to build up by ww2

idk if its even easier to play on non histoircal

mainly restoring ottoman empire

[heavy vigil]

yes madame i will in a bit

[uncut pollen]

Stop You are making me feel old

[drowsy bronze]

everytime i use the puppet console command i crash

[uncut pollen]

Very old

[serene token]

Oof, I feel old everyday.

This is just a mess.

This is 1939 btw.

[buoyant palm]

I’ve seen worse

[uncut pollen]

But im under 20

[serene token]

Same

I just became an adult a few months ago

[uncut pollen]

Congrats

[serene token]

Thanks

Congrats for you as well.

[uncut pollen]

My Birthday is in February

[uncut pollen]

What does that mean?

[serene token]

I dunno

Spy from tf2

[uncut pollen]

DOES THAT MEAN IM A SPY

[serene token]

Maybe

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2spy-worst-sus-anyone-gif-22434495

[serene token]

Hon hon hon

Lol

[uncut pollen]

I dont understand

So goodnight

[serene token]

Understand what?

Spy is French.

And gn

[gritty karma]

done, no more italy for some time

[uncut pollen]

Time to get all Germany achievements

[gritty karma]

yeah new dlc one with landmark, but i dont have only 1 germany ach i think beat france and poland without losing 476

[heavy vigil]

Thats easy

[gritty karma]

ah i see some more achievements

Woman in the Castle yet

but i really waited for playing germany for rework bcs pre dlc they were too easy

[heavy vigil]

Now theyre easier

[deep pike]

even with green air my troops are struggling against this bulgaria

[gritty karma]

you kill greece fast

as otto

i played otto long time ago but you always rush greece

after civil war

[deep pike]

yeah problem is this though

[gritty karma]

its not

[deep pike]

greece dosent exist

there is greece normal

but its a puppet of germany

(this was on non historical)

[paper echo]

nice bulgarian borders 💀

[gritty karma]

i will send u save but you have to return game version to look at it

so you can see

i have saves before all wars

[dim hazel]

how to use navy

[deep pike]

yeah

[flat barn]

As much as i criticize toa i love brazils focus tree

[deep pike]

i was able able to push one title

but thats it

and i have gotten rid of my army de org thing

for the national spirit

[gritty karma]

i was grinding some achievement with general i think

here u have my perfect scamsave turkey run, i had to restart like 10 times

[paper echo]

my friend once did ottoman and in the civil war the other turkey joined the comintern

[gritty karma]

this is save before attackin greece

[deep pike]

okay

so is there anything i can do rn to defeat this bulgaria?

[gritty karma]

idk ur tech, divisions bulgaria etc

[deep pike]

divisions are about the same (both having 24)

im using a 9/0 template

my infantry is mostly caught up

but i havent had time to do the support stuff

[gritty karma]

you can lurk these 2 saves i send

2nd is sending right now

you can see what focuses i do, i had notepad with which focus do and i had perfect timed even with infantry equipment

[deep pike]

okay

but on my save rn

is there nothing i can do about bulgaria?

[deep pike]

whoa whoa whoa

my troops are attritoning despite having good supply!?

[dim hazel]

i actually hate fighting lategame japan as germany tryna do a world conquest cuz why cant i push into their mainland when they have like 100 divisions entrenched

[scenic basin]

I failed as a German player, I got capped by austria

[dim hazel]

how?

[scenic basin]

I got the game yesterday and tried to invade

It went terrible

[buoyant radish]

finally im unmuted

[scenic basin]

How long was your mute?

[buoyant radish]

a hour

[scenic basin]

Damn

[vernal rapids]

What nation is that

[buoyant radish]

for sending a external emoji

[buoyant radish]

my nation was facist belgium

[vernal rapids]

Ah

[buoyant radish]

also i cored all of northern france

[vernal rapids]

😂

[scenic basin]

I need walking with the tiger thingy

I wanna kaiserreich

[vernal rapids]

Question is allied with Germany or did u take Germany 🤔

[buoyant radish]

i allied with them

[vernal rapids]

Damn

[buoyant radish]

i took most of the allies land

[vernal rapids]

I took over the world as Argentina 🤣

[buoyant radish]

i did the same with facist(?) poland

[sudden grotto]

Imagine puppeting the world as your rk...proclaim greater Reich but yet you dont have cores on austria

[bright sinew]

mass-ass left or right for countries where mass mass-assault works

which 1'

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/arrived-winged-hussars-hussars-knight-anime-gif-6947662035653167153

[buoyant radish]

did you lose the video version of this?

[clear dagger]

no its just faster

[buoyant radish]

crazy bus

kinda loud btw

[silent oxide]

this stuff probably belongs in #off-topic
Or not at all.

[clear dagger]

sorry

[rose prawn]

Isn't it something like what if no won ww1?

or the opposite

[bronze mango]

The scenario is built off the concept that instead of punishing the countries after the war they were rewarded

[rose prawn]

Make a scenario where no one wins ww1 then lol

If possible ofc 🙏

[bronze mango]

Red flood

[paper echo]

w mod L path

[bronze mango]

Currently cannot cause it is late

[rose prawn]

Dang

[warped flint]

Whats wrong with it?

[rose prawn]

In red flood ww1 starts at second balkan war

[paper echo]

there are better paths for sure

[bronze mango]

Still counts as a nobody winning scenario though right?

Alos collapsing world rise of radicalism

[rose prawn]

France gets alsace and belguim is restored

Well

But its closer

Yeah

[bronze mango]

Caligula path is cool, no?

[paper echo]

whats that

[rose prawn]

Btw have you guys saw the new kaiserreich cold war mod

[paper echo]

i only did acg and the black florida country

[bronze mango]

Brandon becoming eternal president of America

[split bane]

Twilight Struggle?

[rose prawn]

Yes

[split bane]

Yeah it's honestly an interesting idea

[bronze mango]

Try apla, it's peak

[rose prawn]

It is

It seems better than kalter krieg

Something actually happens at there lol

[paper echo]

i wanna play but it doesnt run that fast and last time it was crashing and annoyed me

[rose prawn]

Which concerns my country 💪

[split bane]

Syndie USA + UoB vs Schleicher's Reichspakt vs Liberal Japan

[rose prawn]

And Mediterranean warr

[warped flint]

finnaly

i keep attacking a tile for months trying to push, they kept reinforcing

[rose prawn]

I liked the idea where a simple conflict can escalate to whole world war

[buoyant radish]

thats the AI for you

[sudden thistle]

I hate playing that side in the fire rises

[buoyant radish]

WWI and WWII:

[sudden thistle]

The patriot front does not need to kill me as well

[rose prawn]

I mean an on going conflict

[warped flint]

Me to

but i hate myself, so i am playing it

[trim pike]

No modern politicians please

[rose prawn]

But its a mod?

[bronze mango]

That doesn't matter

You may not mention Brandon

[trim pike]

Correct

[wide tapir]

when will u ever fix the multiplayer

[bronze mango]

Infact you literally cannot say his name

[trim pike]

[wide tapir]

give me the dev nicknames i will ping them

[trim pike]

U cant ping devs….

[rose prawn]

What about the Simeon Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

If he was still an active politican

[warped flint]

Bro the orangeman keeps getting more men, i just destroyed like 10 divs and he got 20 more

[rose prawn]

We couldnt mention him as well?

[trim pike]

As long as its past ww2 bcs it leads to arguments

[rose prawn]

But hes at the vanilla?

[trim pike]

U can use the vanilla portrait from the game

[rose prawn]

No no What I meant was

[trim pike]

Likewise for others

[rose prawn]

If he was still an active politician

[sudden thistle]

I mean technically u can but u will be murdered

[rose prawn]

Would we be allowed to mention him

[trim pike]

No discussion of the politics tho

[wide tapir]

Do you guys even have a slightest attempt on this problem? they just send empty steam api lobbies

[trim pike]

Is ur game updated

[wide tapir]

Bro wtf?

I am asking that why hackers are still running wild

it has been weeks

[rose prawn]

Beside politics like the game wise

[wide tapir]

In case of anything i will put the code to ur DM @trim pike, pls just forward it or something, hackers are boasting about it

For real, hackers have been a huge problems since the day one, but at least have some actions or words on it to save your best game pls

[rose prawn]

Btw which navy nation is fun in ur opinion

[bronze mango]

I hate navy

[rose prawn]

Zamn

[bronze mango]

However japan will be peak after the dlc

[rose prawn]

I like it

Yes

Danish navy is op

I like the nations where you build navy from scrap

[night lintel]

apla isn't a politician bro...

[rose prawn]

Wonder if they are going to rework on

[bronze mango]

This is about Brandon

[rose prawn]

East indies

Or just leave it

[bronze mango]

Like this dlc already has so many nations so probably not in this dlc

[night lintel]

the larpwaffen one?

[rose prawn]

Yeah it seems sadly

[bronze mango]

No bi dome

Joe

[bronze mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256683504746369075/1263582822434865284/togif.gif

[rose prawn]

Larpers

Expert roleplayers fr

[warped flint]

How can i make my planes actually kill thme

they kill 1 like every 2 weeks

[scenic basin]

Is there a way to become the kaiserreich without mods or the german dlc

[bronze mango]

Wdym?

Germany does have a limited alt history path in base game

[scenic basin]

I thought oppose the bad man was a dlc

[bronze mango]

Well yes, however that is waking the tiger that was integrated into base game, however if you want the big and far more interesting alt history path you need götterdämmerung

[scenic basin]

Kk

But is there a way to become the german empire without waking tiger?

[craggy trail]

Waking the Tiger is integrated into Basegame

along with Together for Victory and Death or Dishonor

[rose prawn]

Also what's ur favorite nations

[bronze mango]

Iraq, the soviet union, the People's Republic of China and Germany

[rose prawn]

Why the Iraq

I mean

Which path exactly

[bronze mango]

Hashemite Path, and then go into the pan arab path

You get 1000 weekly manpower like this

And by going communist you get another 500

[leaden mulch]

My absolute favorite has to be poland my beloved

[bronze mango]

Iraq is generally fun

[rose prawn]

Polands fun

I like the hohenzollern path

[bronze mango]

The only path I would call somewhat bad is kurdistan, and even then it's still fun

Poland wojtek

[craggy trail]

King wojtek of Poland

[rose prawn]

Bear king

And the admiral jan mayen

Sorry

Grand Admiral

[rose prawn]

Are the communist paths for Germany fun

[crystal fable]

best navl invasion ever

[bronze mango]

Was about to say infact, although I decided against specifying the paths

[rose prawn]

Ohh

[warped flint]

What do I do

[rose prawn]

What are the losses

[warped flint]

I can't push the orange man, and soon i will have to go to war with the nazis

[rose prawn]

Cant you take detroit quickly

[warped flint]

Hopefully, just gotta wait for them to declar

I think my plan is to blitz michigan, then use those men to hold/push the patriot front

[rose prawn]

Do you have a

Navy

[warped flint]

uh i think this is bugged

it doesn't let me look at them

[quartz canyon]

Are there any good Cold War mods?

[bronze mango]

Cold war iron curtain is pretty good, it should get an update soon however it is still playable now

Red dusk is also good for an alternate history scenario

[quartz canyon]

Ok, nice. I saw it wasn’t updated since last year so I war worried it wouldn’t run.

[bronze mango]

No it runs just fine, I was playing it the other day infact

It is a bit buggy but that isn't because its out of date

[rose prawn]

Only played UK so far at there

It looks complicated

[bronze mango]

I only play soviets

Its peak

[gritty tundra]

am i crazy for starting the game on new zealand? i just thought it would be safer far from europe and i would have time to learn

[bronze mango]

I love proxy wars

[rose prawn]

Oh yes they are cool

[bronze mango]

Canada would be better as a learner

[rose prawn]

I couldnt defend south africa properly at there as UK..

I wonder how's france

[gritty tundra]

yeh im struggling with 4 factories lol

[quartz canyon]

Are its mechanics the same as base game or does it change things?

[bronze mango]

Cold war iron curtain has quite a bit of changes such as a frankly ignorable economy system and such

Red dusk is basically vanilla plus

[quartz canyon]

Do division metas work the same?

[bronze mango]

No

[quartz canyon]

Like are 7/2’s and 9/3’s still good?

[bronze mango]

I wouldn't say so

[quartz canyon]

What are the main differences?

[bronze mango]

There is all sorts of new vehicles and such, I dont personally understand it, but also divisions don't really matter for proxy wars, the default works fine

[frail pier]

ur cooked bro

[rose prawn]

Saw swince ball using a casual hoi4 tank template for fire rises

[warped flint]

I have good news

the nazis attacked orangeman

[rose prawn]

Think it was 9 tanks and 9 mech

[frail pier]

im playing as japan and ms13 just took most of the us

and theyre battling the crips in the midwest

i gave the crips f-15s

[warped flint]

Why aren't my aircraft killing them?

[uneven basin]

canonical rommel

[nimble pecan]

wtf

[mild elm]

finland will

finland will win,

[lyric shell]

[sudden thistle]

No

[quartz canyon]

What are the meta infantry divisions for it then?

[sudden thistle]

Idk infantry much but I just shit out 18w inf with shovels and support arty and use that as line inf

It works every time

[quartz canyon]

This is for Cold War The Iron Curtain?

[sudden thistle]

What

No

[quartz canyon]

We were talking about a mod.

[sudden thistle]

Ohhhh

My internet is bad and didn’t load those messages

Sorry

[quartz canyon]

No problem.

[chilly cipher]

TFR mentioned

[warped flint]

Why aren't my fighters killing them????

[remote quarry]

there is only 4 enemy fighters flying in the whole zone

would be quite hard to even spot one of them

[warped flint]

Oh shit i am blind

ty

i will put most on cas now

uh

taking lots of damage from aa

[lyric shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363941528682238074/1380198202153631817/ySxTg2k.gif

[random snow]

WHAT DID I DO

[leaden mulch]

Made a big ship

[leaden mulch]

You made a big ship

Which is why they are doing that

Although you could just ignore them

[random snow]

this isnt that big

[dusky burrow]

Of course this happened

[leaden mulch]

IC cost ig it is

[serene token]

Oof

[leaden mulch]

Just ignore them

[random snow]

they are getting a little jealous

[leaden mulch]

Fr

[random snow]

and yes i did take that from the oversimplified ww1 video and did a little photoshop

[stiff forge]

When this game gets the Asia DLC they should make an achievement called “Japsterdam” where you hold all Japanese core provinces as the Dutch East Indies

[random snow]

that would be epic

[leaden mulch]

Uh huh and they should make it so that you have to be controlling it not owning it

[feral lark]

so, this run has maybe gone a little bit off the rails...

crap, that doesn't have names

[leaden mulch]

Definitely not

[gusty oracle]

what game is this

[gusty oracle]

I see

how do you even get to this

[feral lark]

monarchist germany with ahistorical focuses off

[leaden mulch]

Blud really liberated the Russian Empire💀

[feral lark]

they did that themselves

[leaden mulch]

Ik

I forgot

[feral lark]

germany is actually just about the only country i haven't been at war with at some point in time

[leaden mulch]

To not use humanizing terms on clankers

[leaden mulch]

What are you?

[feral lark]

wym?

[leaden mulch]

Which country

[feral lark]

oh, i meant russia

i am germany

[leaden mulch]

Ohhh

[feral lark]

shockingly, this has not been what you might call good for my sanity. note that RUS and AFG are at war, i have a NA with RUS, AFG is in my faction, USA is at war with basically everybody, Iran is in the USA faction, and I have no idea what the hell italy is doing

[open canyon]

HELLO GUYS!!

so, im new here and new in HOI.. i never played paradox games and im confused

[feral lark]

yeah...that happens

[leaden mulch]

Have you watched a tutorial

[feral lark]

i was trying to find one. isorrowproductions has a good america playthrough that is also a good tutorial. just don't accidentally watch one of the weird mod videos thinking it's a tutorial lmao

[leaden mulch]

The official hoi4 beginners guide is not bad

[feral lark]

the in-game tutorial, however, is bad

[leaden mulch]

Correct

[random snow]

its on time finally

[feral lark]

basically, my first few games were as america, because it has a nice strong industry, is out of the way and so doesn't get involved early. plenty of time to kind of figure out what all is going on. also read the wiki, it is generally quite good.

[random snow]

yeah kinda like ussr but you get clobbered if you dont prepare fast enough

does anyone know how long it takes to traing bombers

nvm for somereason they wont train in new england

[tiny tartan]

UK falling for the giant ship ragebait

[random snow]

What they should be worried about is my airforce

It consistes of bombers fighters and carrier planes

[tiny tartan]

Btw isn't ragebaiting UK a viable strat as the USA? If they declare on you, then you can mobilize your economy faster

I'm gonna look up "angry british soyjack" on google images

[random snow]

I got a entire army in the Philippines for the japanese aswell as 4 thousand fighters and 500 CAS

[tiny tartan]

"Nooo you can't make a giant ship or we will kill millions"

or something like that

[tiny tartan]

what is even the point of having that many planes

[random snow]

Operation Unthinkable

[tiny tartan]

the factories that made those planes could be making artillery and tanks
i don't think you need 4k fighters for air superiority

do you even have airports that will reach japan with 4k planes

[random snow]

i dont think that factories are an issue

[willow plume]

Are U playing as the Philippines or the US?

[random snow]

US

[willow plume]

I'm guessing the us

Yeah

Take out their navy

It would be historically accurate

[random snow]

this is gonna take a while

[willow plume]

is that the number needed for reinforcement

[sudden grotto]

Upgrades

[random snow]

No i canceled the upgraded because i just built an airfrield in the north part of the Philippines

I have a carrier group surrounding the Philippines so they cant land with out a fight and if they do the cas can bomb them to shit

[willow plume]

bro understands naval

very impressive

[tiny tartan]

All this talk about Philiphines made me remember that Paradox is adding a focus tree for them
nobody playing ts 🙏

[random snow]

Thats going to be interesting

i have some paratroopers being made ready to land on taiwan

from there i can build and airfield and send in a second carrier group to prevent a landing

[willow plume]

itll be interesting

thats for sure

[tiny tartan]

Britain will just sit with their dated ass focus tree and Philiphines will be able to form the Anarcho-Fascist Empire of Satan or something

[random snow]

Id pay to watch bittersteel do that

dude its not 1991 yet

[tiny tartan]

Since i've realized how much Oil there is in the middle east, I always invade them as democratic Britain

[random snow]

saddaam is like 5

[tiny tartan]

Iran holds enough oil to fuel an entire army

no need for refineries

[willow plume]

historically accurate hoi4

[tiny tartan]

Oh right hold up, they had a war in 1941

i forgot about it

Hoi4 makes me forget what is even real history at this point

[random snow]

Carrier strike force is ready fo pearl harbor

bro i sent 8 tank division to the Philippines and i have to use transport planes to supply them

i under stand why the US lost in Vietnam

[willow plume]

wait they did?

[tiny tartan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iraqi_War#:~:text=The Anglo-Iraqi War was a British-led Allied military,coup d'état with assistance from Germany and Italy.

[willow plume]

how effective is the use of transport planes?

[random snow]

not very

[willow plume]

ive heard of the allied invasion of irna but not thsi

[willow plume]

how effective is it?

becauyse supplu hubs are super expensive

[random snow]

depends on the enemy AA and howmany planes are there

[willow plume]

suppose complete air superiority

how many planes are needed to supply 1 division

[random snow]

I basicly have unlimited fuel since they are all extracted in the mainland

[willow plume]

bruhh

thats a lot

[random snow]

looks like i dont have to worry about bomber range anymore

I just upgraded yorktown and enterprise to fit the newest tech like radar and AA

also more hangers

[willow plume]

whats their supply situation like?

theyre prtolly all starving to death

[jolly kettle]

bad

yeah they're starving

[willow plume]

yeah 24 divisions is a lot of men

[random snow]

im being very generous with my toys

[jolly kettle]

Imma nuke em all

[hoary mortar]

hoi4

[jolly kettle]

It's beautiful

[random snow]

well they are trying

JESUS

oh they are actualy fighting

[jolly kettle]

[willow plume]

bruh there are 4 carriers

[random snow]

they had 6 and with my bombing of their industry they aint buildin shit

[willow plume]

ok

[random snow]

I just nuked hiroshima and nagasaki

[willow plume]

now you just have to take out those 4

[random snow]

i took out 4 out of 6

2 got away

[willow plume]

wouldnt it be better to nuke tokyo

[warped flint]

Beautiful

[willow plume]

how did ur subs do so well?

[warped flint]

This isn't so beautiful tho....

[hoary mortar]

Gorgeous

[random snow]

oh shit

[hoary mortar]

and now gn hehe, im tired

[warped flint]

Think its just my design

lemme take a screenshot

Here

[willow plume]

the type 7c wasnt supper impressive irl if i understand correctly

i thought u were using the type 21

[warped flint]

Holy the soviets have a shitton of air

oh. thats defitinelky not beautiful

Oh, this is good now

[misty fossil]

bro finally discovered navy

navy is like gambling but you keep hitting the juckpot

[random snow]

https://tenor.com/view/thursday-morning-gif-3452382699452419355

im casing the germans to shit

someone said oil

[austere basin]

Caught a black, confederate guy spying ze reich

[sturdy roost]

Ey

[warped flint]

The soviets and allies annoyed me a lolt

so is tartes to cheat

Actually no

i am doing this legit

trust

[long fern]

G

[lethal ether]

did they land dday?

or did you fail to cap france?

[marsh ravine]

I think its the endsieg mod

Or something similar

[misty fossil]

found this gem on reddit

i should try communist sweden

[near schooner]

what the hell happened in alsace

[clear dagger]

what year is it?

[wide tapir]

@grizzled delta yo big bot chunky

[uncut heath]

i am playing japan kx

[patent thistle]

yeah, that almost always somehow happends with communist sweden

[misty fossil]

imagine if pdx also went deep into the politics of some other countries

[patent thistle]

thats some random ass islamic caliphate type shit i have created-

(great war redux)

[daring tundra]

It is because the Swedish communist leader was anti-Stalinist

[daring tundra]

Yes, something better than having two main leaders in the Spanish civil war and both are part of wrong ruling parties

[patent thistle]

ye i still find it funny how they, as communists join the most likely heavily anti communist alliance there is-

[daring tundra]

Neither Franco was from CEDA, nor Azaña from PSOE

[limpid mantle]

Is higher combat width or lower combat width better for naval invasions?

[marsh ravine]

Higher

[marsh ravine]

So you can force attack

Or last stand if u r japan

[limpid mantle]

makes sense

are armored divisions just as prone to strength damage when doing force attack as infantry?

[marsh ravine]

Yes

[limpid mantle]

but practically, is the damage less?

[marsh ravine]

?

Idk what u mean

[limpid mantle]

they have hardness

[marsh ravine]

You can take alot of damage

[limpid mantle]

infantry dont

[marsh ravine]

Oh yeh if enemy doesnt have hard attack

U should be fine?

[limpid mantle]

i see

[marsh ravine]

U could do a 13 mech 5 tank

And have super high hp

[limpid mantle]

what does hp do again

[patent thistle]

totally looks very stabile and is totally not gonna collapse anytime soon

[dusky burrow]

Now you absolutely have to go around the Maginot

Also cringe Lubelskie has been eradicated

[patent thistle]

lets be honest how much time do we give this state-

[uncut pollen]

2 months

[patent thistle]

same considering it litterally has puppet states in regions like austria, italy and ethiopia

[willow plume]

what country is this focus for?

[patent thistle]

ottomans if you do sultan path

[willow plume]

is it dlc?

i dont think its in the base game

[patent thistle]

its TGWR

[marsh ravine]

Mod

[patent thistle]

not basegame

[willow plume]

ahhh that makes sense

i should try modded hoi4

[marsh ravine]

More hp=you lose less

And keep more veterancy

[limpid mantle]

try out R56 if you dont mind nonsensical and unhistorical ai

i somehow reached europe by conquering suez countries as japan

[winter urchin]

@cloud forum dont play major again lol

you literally have 480 factory USA and you didnt have a single unit or naval fleet on european and african front

hasnt invaded japan either at 1941

[patent thistle]

i always pick the US route for japan to get to europe

[misty fossil]

what maginot

its easier for the soldiers to just swim across the lake

[cloud forum]

Unfortunately the only major I know to play is the sov but it was already taken

[misty fossil]

why are you playing mp

[dusky burrow]

Oh shoot I forgot about the navy

When I like navy

[winter urchin]

lol clearly you dont know how to play sov if thats how you behaved on USA

[misty fossil]

?

[winter urchin]

There is zero reason you should only have 30 mils on tanks in 1941

with a 480 factory eco

[misty fossil]

480 factories or 480 mils

[winter urchin]

and then no divs helping your soviet against a france/italy/germany/unified nordic baltic state

[misty fossil]

regardless good luck finding enough chromium

[patent thistle]

uh- i dont know how this happend but i take a free puppet anyday-

[winter urchin]

220 civs 200 mils

and he was spamming subs

lmfao

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

sub spam usa

its so over

[winter urchin]

he also invited mexico into the faction so USSR couldnt kill trotsky lol

[misty fossil]

good

[winter urchin]

soviet was in his faction

cause it was FRA/ITA/GER axis

[misty fossil]

its his first time

[winter urchin]

if he was a soviet player he shouldve known not to do that shit

also hes played majors before hes just terrible at the game

[misty fossil]

navy isnt hard tbh he just needs to sit down and learn

then play and make errors

mindsets like this is why nobody wants to make mistakes and learn in the first place

[misty fossil]

you cant be a 1000 hour player without playing the first 100 hours

[winter urchin]

yeah all he did was make excuses or tell soviets to listen to him when he did nothing correctly the entire game

[misty fossil]

why dont you livestream your game and show him how to play step by step

[patent thistle]

.

[winter urchin]

we only had our puppet militias on battleplan the entire game on african front when they had a RAJ and south africa player ?

[misty fossil]

france

[patent thistle]

is TGWR always this wierd post ww1?

[misty fossil]

tgwr has always been weird

[winter urchin]

i wouldnt be clowning this guys USA gameplay if he didnt take USA from me after he rejoined starting lobby

[patent thistle]

i dont think however that france would revolt against the communists, and become MY puppet out of all peoples-

and ofcourse the guy is a napoleon wannabe

[misty fossil]

then just dont play mp

theres nothing as unproductive as hounding on someone because they did something you didnt like

go take a walk and clear your mind or something

ive never touched mp because its just not fun

[winter urchin]

eh im just typing here until we justify

[misty fossil]

real

[patent thistle]

i mean, i always like a reason to beat up france

[misty fossil]

he looks a lot like a generic guy

[patent thistle]

meant the name

[misty fossil]

ik

[misty fossil]

same ai behaviour with regno del sud

ai always picks you

[patent thistle]

i didnt even invade france

[misty fossil]

hey at least you got the burgundian inheritance

[winter urchin]

side note this baltic focus to get cores on nordic/northwestern russia is dogshit

i need 60 compliance to core

[misty fossil]

the ever so humble civilian administraion or wahtever its called

[patent thistle]

unless you havent even entered italy

[winter urchin]

like even with allied axis you are at 0 manpower the entire game until you core

[mellow jetty]

I used to ignore Navy out of fear, but now its one of my favourite parts of the game

[misty fossil]

that happens

what can i say

[patent thistle]

also for some reason i might be too fast but italy almost never goes into a civilwar in my games-

[winter urchin]

playing navy is for UK or italy players

USA you can just spam out the default ships and win

[patent thistle]

(when i do basegame)

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628337044808138762/1378230280816693299/truth_wmg.gif

[misty fossil]

thats a lot of dead people

[patent thistle]

no shit the american AI designs just suck a little less over the standard ai

[patent thistle]

@misty fossil do you have any reasons for this situation?

[winter urchin]

i had a 5 to 1 kill/death ratio against soviets

[misty fossil]

i dont dev for gwr

i dont dev at all actually

[patent thistle]

i meant with basegame

[misty fossil]

time to squeeze more men out

[winter urchin]

nah even in multiplayer

[misty fossil]

oh

[patent thistle]

thats also because of the overmight you have in dockyards to start with

[misty fossil]

thats good lmao

i always play with a naval rework mod

bit of a shame theres only a single dev

[patent thistle]

okay thats to be expected

[winter urchin]

just battleplanned UK and had 3.0 KD

[misty fossil]

up with big brother

[patent thistle]

the UK aint hard to beat

[analog ivy]

what do armored support vehicles do i cant find it

[misty fossil]

they support you with armour

[eternal palm]

They are a replacement for engi

[misty fossil]

you have to research special armoured vehicle support techs under the support comp tree

[eternal palm]

u dont? Assault engi is available from day1

[winter urchin]

its multiplayer and im on estonia

[misty fossil]

really

[eternal palm]

Holy strength bars 💀

[patent thistle]

i just place an army group there and we are good

ez

[misty fossil]

i thought you have to research armoured engineers

[eternal palm]

Thats for armored engineers, not assault engineers

[misty fossil]

odd

[eternal palm]

different companies

[misty fossil]

shrug then

[patent thistle]

i never demobilized even after the great war just saying

[analog ivy]

OHHHH thats why i couldnt find assault engineer its cause i used engineer instead ty

[patent thistle]

and dont have to

[analog ivy]

btw is it a bad idea to start ww2 in 1940 in singleplayer? cause i dont have enough time to put mechanized and make divs before ww2 in 1939

[winter urchin]

what country?

[analog ivy]

germany

[patent thistle]

you can start it everytime you want

[winter urchin]

1938-1939

[tranquil lion]

If nationalist Spain has already done this focus, is there any way I can still get Carlist Spain to form?

Or do I have to restart?

[patent thistle]

you just shouldnt wait till like 1941 or so

[willow plume]

yeah i have to

[winter urchin]

france gets too strong in 1940/41

[patent thistle]

cause then france becomes a pain

[willow plume]

just gotta master base hoi4 first

[patent thistle]

1940s france is still managable

[willow plume]

the french ai never defends the ardennes

they always lose so quickly

[winter urchin]

if you have multiplayer game knowledge or try to learn from every SP game you play, sure

but a casual player will have some difficulty with 40s france

[patent thistle]

i dont play multiplayer

[winter urchin]

Hence the latter of my message..

[analog ivy]

oh yeah also if i make really good heavy tanks and spam them would i even need air?

[willow plume]

wont they get destroyed by cas then?

[winter urchin]

you need support anti air in your divs

either spam out anti air capability or have air

[analog ivy]

they are in all of my divs

[patent thistle]

this aint even the slightest bit fair-

[winter urchin]

if youre in singleplayer just ask your faction members to do offensive and prioritze air production

[analog ivy]

im playing vanilla

[winter urchin]

thats vanilla

[analog ivy]

no its rt56

[winter urchin]

oh guess not

play rt56

vanilla is boring and rt56 has more freedom